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    United States AI Solar System (1)

    B.B.Baghor
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    Post  B.B.Baghor Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:33 pm

    ortho's words:
    "I wish to move-on to Clean Sheet of Stone Solutions -- but History must be properly handled -- so as to provide a Sustainable Foundation for New Theologies and Philosophies. For me -- studying theology is sort of like the guy who hits himself over the head with a hammer -- because it feels so good when he quits!!"

    Some parts of your posts, like the last sentence in this one above, could well fit in the Humour thread, ortho,
    You keep hitting the nail on its head, it seems, in your view on studying theology and other statements you make
    about how you manage and maintain your thread. If I've understood your explanations in your thread, ortho, your
    intention is to invite members and visitors here and to discuss its content and find understanding and clarity due to that.

    I keep coming back at my trying to understand, what it is that you're looking for in your thread. I'm having a go at it and
    move forward, by groping and trying, no hunt for an answer as if the end of this discussion should be near. The question
    mark may remain in it, if you get what I mean. To me it looks like this, that you show up in your thread in two different ways
    (or roles, deliberately chosen?)

    At times you're the observer looking at its content from without, which seems to be the intention of the initial plan, with your
    US of the SS-Final Cut. At other times you're the person actively present in your thread, sharing your observations and feelings
    on how you see yourself doing and the probable futility of it in the eyes of others, as you seem to perceive may be the case.

    This seems to come from within you, ortho, as if it's felt that way, real time. If this is what you call "modelling", I can't say
    I understand what you mean by that and what it's purpose is. And besides, I'm not sure if that's what it is, ortho. Is it with
    the intention to share your large amount of documentation and views, to see if they're appreciated as subjects for a dis-
    cussion? Without the need to find understanding, for this is already material that is understood by you?

    Or is your need of understanding, with the help of discussions, that you welcome here? I risk wrapping conclusions
    around my questioning here, due to a groping for my understanding. Forgive me if that's perceived that way, by you, ortho.
    This is the thing, you see, we always have to deal with being at risk in misunderstanding, for the difficulty of only exchanging
    views in this virtual way. I can imagine there must be some sort of strong drive in you, connected to an urge to find
    a way to a life with purpose. To me, it seems to be like this, that you feel the clarity for finding it is present outside of you.

    To me, at times, there seems to have happened a reversal of priorities, in the way you handle your thread, as if the exploring
    and research that you do, have moved to the first position, as a goal in itself. For I see you asking questions, asking questions
    about the asked questions, ignoring investigations by others sometimes due to the insistant questioning popping up in you.
    At times, reading parts of your posts, I wonder if there are answers that will satisfy you, if they're searched for.

    I truly wonder what will happen if you at any given moment will find an answer or give up this quest, quieting that mind of yours.
    I don't mean to suggest that you should stop posting, ortho, I simply wonder in what way your arrival at the end of your quest,
    feeling that you've found the answers you need, will affect you. Do you expect to feel you will miss the ponder and wonder,
    the multifacetted way of reflecting on topics that you express in your thread here in the Mists? It's a genuine question, I hope
    you will perceive it that way Cheerful
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:53 am

    B.B.Baghor wrote: ortho's words: "I wish to move-on to Clean Sheet of Stone Solutions -- but History must be properly handled -- so as to provide a Sustainable Foundation for New Theologies and Philosophies. For me -- studying theology is sort of like the guy who hits himself over the head with a hammer -- because it feels so good when he quits!!"

    Some parts of your posts, like the last sentence in this one above, could well fit in the Humour thread, ortho, You keep hitting the nail on its head, it seems, in your view on studying theology and other statements you make about how you manage and maintain your thread. If I've understood your explanations in your thread, ortho, your intention is to invite members and visitors here and to discuss its content and find understanding and clarity due to that.

    Thank-you B.B. All of this involves a rarely achieved understanding of the world, solar system, and universe -- which I suspect "Top-People" understand very clearly. This is NOT a touchy-feely support-group. This is a royal-model walk on the wild-side!! It involves a lot of experience and experiences -- along with material provided by others. What people (and other than people) do with this is up to them.

    I keep coming back at my trying to understand, what it is that you're looking for in your thread. I'm having a go at it and move forward, by groping and trying, no hunt for an answer as if the end of this discussion should be near. The question mark may remain in it, if you get what I mean. To me it looks like this, that you show up in your thread in two different ways (or roles, deliberately chosen?)

    I guess I'm attempting to give substance to my suppositions. This discussion might never end. This is about Revelation and Mystery. A "Space-Cowboy" Individual of Interest spoke to me about "Mystery" in an approving manner. They also spoke about the "good-side" of Anna in "V" in an approving manner. They spoke to me about pre-cognition and remote-viewing (with military-applications). They spoke to me about who should "really run the world". They spoke to me about how UFO's work (something about gravity and always falling). They spoke of wishing to construct a UFO. They spoke of working with the Pentagon. They spoke to me about Orion. They reminded me of the "Cowboy" in Mulholland Drive.

    At times you're the observer looking at its content from without, which seems to be the intention of the initial plan, with your US of the SS-Final Cut. At other times you're the person actively present in your thread, sharing your observations and feelings on how you see yourself doing and the probable futility of it in the eyes of others, as you seem to perceive may be the case.

    I pretend to be someone I'm not -- to create a Science-Fictional Psycho-Drama -- to make points which could not otherwise be made. This mostly seems to have fallen on "deaf-ears". It's probably mostly a personal-exercise which I am sharing with a few alphabet-interns. I wonder how many of them have gone nuts? I'm actually being somewhat serious.

    This seems to come from within you, ortho, as if it's felt that way, real time. If this is what you call "modelling", I can't say I understand what you mean by that and what it's purpose is. And besides, I'm not sure if that's what it is, ortho. Is it with the intention to share your large amount of documentation and views, to see if they're appreciated as subjects for a discussion? Without the need to find understanding, for this is already material that is understood by you?

    It sometimes seems as if I am "Channeling-Myself". I sometimes imagine myself in important historical, contemporary, and prophetic roles -- so as to provide myself and others with rare-insights into the "Way Things Might've Been or Might Be" as the "Saddest Words That Fingers Can Type". I've actually found some remarkable evidences that I might be some sort of a "Significant Historical Soul" -- but I have no idea whether that would be a good-thing, or not. Some of my questions are rhetorical -- but most are inquisitive. I keep hoping that the right-individuals will systematically and exhaustively answer my many questions (here or in some other context).

    Or is your need of understanding, with the help of discussions, that you welcome here? I risk wrapping conclusions around my questioning here, due to a groping for my understanding. Forgive me if that's perceived that way, by you, ortho. This is the thing, you see, we always have to deal with being at risk in misunderstanding, for the difficulty of only exchanging views in this virtual way. I can imagine there must be some sort of strong drive in you, connected to an urge to find a way to a life with purpose. To me, it seems to be like this, that you feel the clarity for finding it is present outside of you.

    I doubt that I will find a "Purposeful-Life" in "Real-Life" so I am forced to construct a "Significant-Existence" in Cyberspace as some sort of a "Cyberspace-Cowboy". I am often forced to bring discussions from other threads into this thread -- so as to artificially manufacture conversation within this particular thread. I often seem to be "shunned" on this site -- and in "real-life".

    To me, at times, there seems to have happened a reversal of priorities, in the way you handle your thread, as if the exploring and research that you do, have moved to the first position, as a goal in itself. For I see you asking questions, asking questions about the asked questions, ignoring investigations by others sometimes due to the insistent questioning popping up in you. At times, reading parts of your posts, I wonder if there are answers that will satisfy you, if they're searched for.

    The Rare Responses by Others are often catalysts for further questioning and speculation. Most of the material on this thread is the work of others (ignored or otherwise). Responses are sometimes off-topic -- and I seek to stay on track -- which might appear to be ignoring various responders. Thinking deeply about the words of others does not always produce direct-responses from me. I'm sometimes a bit like a psychiatrist or psychologist asking leading questions. Jesus asked a lot of questions. Consider reading Jesus: An Interview Across Time by Dr. Andrew G. Hodges. http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Interview-Psychiatrist-Christs-Humanity/dp/0825427908

    I truly wonder what will happen if you at any given moment will find an answer or give up this quest, quieting that mind of yours. I don't mean to suggest that you should stop posting, ortho, I simply wonder in what way your arrival at the end of your quest, feeling that you've found the answers you need, will affect you. Do you expect to feel you will miss the ponder and wonder, the multifaceted way of reflecting on topics that you express in your thread here in the Mists? It's a genuine question, I hope you will perceive it that way Cheerful

    The quest will probably become so dark and controversial that I will be forced to not talk about it publicly or privately. This thing might honestly end in tragedy and great sorrow. I'm NOT expecting a happy-ending.
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    Wine is a mocker , strong drink is raging : and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise .  2 The fear of a king is as the roaring of a lion: whoso provoketh him to anger sinneth against his own soul.  3 It is an honour for a man to cease from strife: but every fool will be meddling .  4 The sluggard will not plow by reason of the cold; therefore shall he beg in harvest, and have nothing.  5 Counsel in the heart of man is like deep water; but a man of understanding will draw it out .  6 Most men will proclaim every one his own goodness: but a faithful man who can find ?  7 The just man walketh in his integrity: his children are blessed after him.  8 A king that sitteth in the throne of judgment scattereth away all evil with his eyes.  9 Who can say , I have made my heart clean , I am pure from my sin?  10 Divers weights , and divers measures , both of them are alike abomination to the LORD.  11 Even a child is known by his doings, whether his work be pure, and whether it be right.  12 The hearing ear, and the seeing eye, the LORD hath made even both of them.  13 Love not sleep, lest thou come to poverty ; open thine eyes, and thou shalt be satisfied with bread.  14 It is naught, it is naught, saith the buyer : but when he is gone his way, then he boasteth .  15 There is gold, and a multitude of rubies: but the lips of knowledge are a precious jewel.  16 Take his garment that is surety for a stranger : and take a pledge of him for a strange woman.  17 Bread of deceit is sweet to a man; but afterwards his mouth shall be filled with gravel.  18 Every purpose is established by counsel: and with good advice make war.  19 He that goeth about as a talebearer revealeth secrets: therefore meddle not with him that flattereth with his lips.  20 Whoso curseth his father or his mother, his lamp shall be put out in obscure  darkness.  21 An inheritance may be gotten hastily at the beginning; but the end thereof shall not be blessed .  22 Say not thou, I will recompense evil; but wait on the LORD, and he shall save thee.  23 Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD; and a false balance is not good.  24 Man's goings are of the LORD; how can a man then understand his own way?  25 It is a snare to the man who devoureth that which is holy, and after vows to make enquiry .  26 A wise king scattereth the wicked, and bringeth the wheel over them.  27 The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly.  28 Mercy and truth preserve the king: and his throne is upholden by mercy.  29 The glory of young men is their strength: and the beauty of old men is the gray head.  30 The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly.

    The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will .  2 Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts.  3 To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice.  4 An high look, and a proud heart, and the plowing of the wicked, is sin.  5 The thoughts of the diligent tend only to plenteousness; but of every one that is hasty only to want.  6 The getting of treasures by a lying tongue is a vanity tossed to and fro of them that seek death.  7 The robbery of the wicked shall destroy them; because they refuse to do judgment.  8 The way of man is froward and strange: but as for the pure, his work is right.  9 It is better to dwell in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling  woman in a wide house.  10 The soul of the wicked desireth evil: his neighbour findeth no favour in his eyes.  11 When the scorner is punished , the simple is made wise : and when the wise is instructed , he receiveth knowledge.  12 The righteous man wisely considereth the house of the wicked: but God overthroweth the wicked for their wickedness.  13 Whoso stoppeth his ears at the cry of the poor, he also shall cry himself, but shall not be heard .  14 A gift in secret pacifieth anger: and a reward in the bosom strong wrath.  15 It is joy to the just to do judgment: but destruction shall be to the workers of iniquity.  16 The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead.  17 He that loveth pleasure shall be a poor man: he that loveth wine and oil shall not be rich .  18 The wicked shall be a ransom for the righteous, and the transgressor for the upright.  19 It is better to dwell in the wilderness , than with a contentious  and an angry woman.  20 There is treasure to be desired and oil in the dwelling of the wise; but a foolish man spendeth it up .  21 He that followeth after righteousness and mercy findeth life, righteousness, and honour.  22 A wise man scaleth the city of the mighty, and casteth down the strength of the confidence thereof.  23 Whoso keepeth his mouth and his tongue keepeth his soul from troubles.  24 Proud and haughty scorner is his name, who dealeth in proud wrath.  25 The desire of the slothful killeth him; for his hands refuse to labour .  26 He coveteth greedily all the day long: but the righteous giveth and spareth not.  27 The sacrifice of the wicked is abomination: how much more, when he bringeth it with a wicked mind?  28 A false witness shall perish : but the man that heareth speaketh constantly.  29 A wicked man hardeneth his face: but as for the upright, he directeth his way.  30 There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the LORD.  31 The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD.

    A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver and gold.  2 The rich and poor meet together : the LORD is the maker of them all.  3 A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on , and are punished .  4 By humility and the fear of the LORD are riches, and honour, and life.  5 Thorns and snares are in the way of the froward: he that doth keep his soul shall be far from them.  6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old , he will not depart from it.  7 The rich ruleth over the poor , and the borrower is servant to the lender  .  8 He that soweth iniquity shall reap vanity: and the rod of his anger shall fail .  9 He that hath a bountiful eye shall be blessed ; for he giveth of his bread to the poor.  10 Cast out the scorner , and contention shall go out ; yea, strife and reproach shall cease .  11 He that loveth pureness  of heart, for the grace of his lips the king shall be his friend.  12 The eyes of the LORD preserve knowledge, and he overthroweth the words of the transgressor .  13 The slothful man saith , There is a lion without, I shall be slain in the streets.  14 The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein.  15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.  16 He that oppresseth the poor to increase his riches, and he that giveth to the rich, shall surely come to want.  17 Bow down thine ear, and hear the words of the wise, and apply thine heart unto my knowledge.  18 For it is a pleasant thing if thou keep them within thee; they shall withal be fitted in thy lips.  19 That thy trust may be in the LORD, I have made known to thee this day, even to thee.  20 Have not I written to thee excellent things in counsels and knowledge,  21 That I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth; that thou mightest answer the words of truth to them that send unto thee?  22 Rob not the poor, because he is poor: neither oppress the afflicted in the gate:  23 For the LORD will plead their cause, and spoil the soul of those that spoiled them.  24 Make no friendship with an angry man; and with a furious man thou shalt not go :  25 Lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy soul.  26 Be not thou one of them that strike hands, or of them that are sureties for debts.  27 If thou hast nothing to pay , why should he take away thy bed from under thee?  28 Remove not the ancient landmark, which thy fathers have set .  29 Seest thou a man diligent in his business? he shall stand before kings; he shall not stand before mean men.

    When thou sittest to eat with a ruler , consider diligently what is before thee:  2 And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite.  3 Be not desirous of his dainties: for they are deceitful meat.  4 Labour not to be rich : cease from thine own wisdom.  5 Wilt thou set thine eyes upon that which is not? for riches certainly make themselves wings; they fly away as an eagle toward heaven.  6 Eat thou not the bread of him that hath an evil eye, neither desire thou his dainty meats:  7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink , saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.  8 The morsel which thou hast eaten shalt thou vomit up , and lose thy sweet words.  9 Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.  10 Remove not the old landmark; and enter not into the fields of the fatherless:  11 For their redeemer is mighty; he shall plead their cause with thee.  12 Apply thine heart unto instruction, and thine ears to the words of knowledge.  13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die .  14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.  15 My son, if thine heart be wise , my heart shall rejoice , even mine.  16 Yea, my reins shall rejoice , when thy lips speak right things.  17 Let not thine heart envy sinners: but be thou in the fear of the LORD all the day long.  18 For surely there is an end; and thine expectation shall not be cut off .  19 Hear thou, my son, and be wise , and guide thine heart in the way.  20 Be not among winebibbers  ; among riotous eaters of flesh:  21 For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty : and drowsiness shall clothe a man with rags.  22 Hearken unto thy father that begat thee, and despise not thy mother when she is old .  23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.  24 The father of the righteous shall greatly rejoice : and he that begetteth a wise child shall have joy of him.  25 Thy father and thy mother shall be glad , and she that bare thee shall rejoice .  26 My son, give me thine heart, and let thine eyes observe  my ways.  27 For a whore is a deep ditch; and a strange woman is a narrow pit.  28 She also lieth in wait as for a prey, and increaseth the transgressors among men.  29 Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions  ? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes?  30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.  31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red , when it giveth his colour in the cup  , when it moveth itself aright.  32 At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.  33 Thine eyes shall behold strange women , and thine heart shall utter perverse things.  34 Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast.  35 They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick ; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake ? I will seek it yet again.

    Be not thou envious against evil men, neither desire to be with them.  2 For their heart studieth destruction, and their lips talk of mischief.  3 Through wisdom is an house builded ; and by understanding it is established :  4 And by knowledge shall the chambers be filled with all precious and pleasant riches.  5 A wise man is strong; yea, a man of knowledge increaseth strength.  6 For by wise counsel thou shalt make thy war: and in multitude of counsellors there is safety.  7 Wisdom is too high for a fool: he openeth not his mouth in the gate.  8 He that deviseth to do evil shall be called a mischievous person.  9 The thought of foolishness is sin: and the scorner is an abomination to men.  10 If thou faint in the day of adversity, thy strength is small.  11 If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain;  12 If thou sayest , Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man according to his works?  13 My son, eat thou honey, because it is good; and the honeycomb, which is sweet to thy taste:  14 So shall the knowledge of wisdom be unto thy soul: when thou hast found it, then there shall be a reward, and thy expectation shall not be cut off .  15 Lay not wait , O wicked man, against the dwelling of the righteous; spoil not his resting place:  16 For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again : but the wicked shall fall into mischief.  17 Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth , and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth :  18 Lest the LORD see it, and it displease  him, and he turn away his wrath from him.  19 Fret not thyself because of evil men, neither be thou envious at the wicked;  20 For there shall be no reward to the evil man; the candle of the wicked shall be put out .  21 My son, fear thou the LORD and the king: and meddle not with them that are given to change :  22 For their calamity shall rise suddenly; and who knoweth the ruin of them both?  23 These things also belong to the wise. It is not good to have respect of persons in judgment.  24 He that saith unto the wicked, Thou art righteous; him shall the people curse , nations shall abhor him:  25 But to them that rebuke him shall be delight , and a good blessing shall come upon them.  26 Every man shall kiss his lips that giveth a right answer.  27 Prepare thy work without, and make it fit for thyself in the field; and afterwards build thine house.  28 Be not a witness against thy neighbour without cause; and deceive not with thy lips.  29 Say not, I will do so to him as he hath done to me: I will render to the man according to his work.  30 I went by the field of the slothful , and by the vineyard of the man void of understanding;  31 And, lo, it was all grown over with thorns, and nettles had covered the face thereof, and the stone wall thereof was broken down .  32 Then I saw , and considered it well  : I looked upon it, and received instruction.  33 Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep :  34 So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth ; and thy want as an armed man.

    These are also proverbs of Solomon, which the men of Hezekiah king of Judah copied out .  2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.  3 The heaven for height, and the earth for depth, and the heart of kings is unsearchable.  4 Take away the dross from the silver, and there shall come forth a vessel for the finer .  5 Take away the wicked from before the king, and his throne shall be established in righteousness.  6 Put not forth thyself in the presence of the king, and stand not in the place of great men:  7 For better it is that it be said unto thee, Come up hither; than that thou shouldest be put lower in the presence of the prince whom thine eyes have seen .  8 Go not forth hastily to strive , lest thou know not what to do in the end thereof, when thy neighbour hath put thee to shame .  9 Debate thy cause with thy neighbour himself; and discover not a secret to another:  10 Lest he that heareth it put thee to shame , and thine infamy turn not away .  11 A word fitly  spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver.  12 As an earring of gold, and an ornament of fine gold, so is a wise reprover upon an obedient ear.  13 As the cold of snow in the time of harvest, so is a faithful messenger to them that send him: for he refresheth the soul of his masters.  14 Whoso boasteth himself of a false gift is like clouds and wind without rain.  15 By long forbearing is a prince persuaded , and a soft tongue breaketh the bone.  16 Hast thou found honey? eat so much as is sufficient for thee, lest thou be filled therewith, and vomit it.  17 Withdraw thy foot from thy neighbour's house; lest he be weary of thee, and so hate thee.  18 A man that beareth false witness against his neighbour is a maul, and a sword, and a sharp arrow.  19 Confidence in an unfaithful man in time of trouble is like a broken tooth, and a foot out of joint.  20 As he that taketh away a garment in cold weather, and as vinegar upon nitre, so is he that singeth songs to an heavy heart.  21 If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat ; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink :  22 For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee.  23 The north wind driveth away rain: so doth an angry countenance a backbiting tongue.  24 It is better to dwell in the corner of the housetop, than with a brawling  woman and in a wide house.  25 As cold waters to a thirsty soul, so is good news from a far country.  26 A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring.  27 It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory.  28 He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down , and without walls.

    As snow in summer, and as rain in harvest, so honour is not seemly for a fool.  2 As the bird by wandering , as the swallow by flying , so the curse causeless shall not come .  3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.  4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.  5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.  6 He that sendeth a message by the hand of a fool cutteth off the feet, and drinketh damage.  7 The legs of the lame are not equal : so is a parable in the mouth of fools.  8 As he that bindeth  a stone in a sling, so is he that giveth honour to a fool.  9 As a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so is a parable in the mouth of fools.  10 The great God that formed all things both rewardeth the fool, and rewardeth transgressors .  11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.  12 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.  13 The slothful man saith , There is a lion in the way; a lion is in the streets.  14 As the door turneth upon his hinges, so doth the slothful upon his bed.  15 The slothful hideth his hand in his bosom; it grieveth him to bring it again to his mouth.  16 The sluggard is wiser in his own conceit than seven men that can render a reason.  17 He that passeth by , and meddleth with strife belonging not to him, is like one that taketh a dog by the ears.  18 As a mad man who casteth firebrands, arrows, and death,  19 So is the man that deceiveth his neighbour, and saith , Am not I in sport ?  20 Where no wood is, there the fire goeth out : so where there is no talebearer, the strife ceaseth .  21 As coals are to burning coals, and wood to fire; so is a contentious  man to kindle strife.  22 The words of a talebearer are as wounds , and they go down into the innermost parts of the belly.  23 Burning lips and a wicked heart are like a potsherd covered with silver dross.  24 He that hateth dissembleth with his lips, and layeth up deceit within him;  25 When he speaketh fair , believe him not: for there are seven abominations in his heart.  26 Whose hatred is covered by deceit, his wickedness shall be shewed before the whole congregation.  27 Whoso diggeth a pit shall fall therein: and he that rolleth a stone, it will return upon him.  28 A lying tongue hateth those that are afflicted by it; and a flattering mouth worketh ruin.

    Boast not thyself of to morrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth .  2 Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.  3 A stone is heavy, and the sand weighty; but a fool's wrath is heavier than them both.  4 Wrath is cruel, and anger is outrageous; but who is able to stand before envy?  5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.  6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend ; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful .  7 The full soul loatheth an honeycomb; but to the hungry soul every bitter thing is sweet.  8 As a bird that wandereth from her nest, so is a man that wandereth from his place.  9 Ointment and perfume rejoice the heart: so doth the sweetness of a man's friend by hearty counsel.  10 Thine own friend, and thy father's friend, forsake not; neither go into thy brother's house in the day of thy calamity: for better is a neighbour that is near than a brother far off.  11 My son, be wise , and make my heart glad , that I may answer  him that reproacheth me.  12 A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself; but the simple pass on , and are punished .  13 Take his garment that is surety for a stranger , and take a pledge of him for a strange woman.  14 He that blesseth his friend with a loud voice, rising early in the morning, it shall be counted a curse to him.  15 A continual dropping in a very rainy day and a contentious  woman are alike .  16 Whosoever hideth her hideth the wind, and the ointment of his right hand, which bewrayeth itself.  17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.  18 Whoso keepeth the fig tree shall eat the fruit thereof: so he that waiteth on his master shall be honoured .  19 As in water face answereth to face, so the heart of man to man.  20 Hell and destruction  are never full ; so the eyes of man are never satisfied .  21 As the fining pot for silver, and the furnace for gold; so is a man to his praise.  22 Though thou shouldest bray a fool in a mortar among wheat with a pestle, yet will not his foolishness depart from him.  23 Be thou diligent to know the state of thy flocks, and look well to thy herds.  24 For riches are not for ever: and doth the crown endure to every generation?  25 The hay appeareth , and the tender grass sheweth itself, and herbs of the mountains are gathered .  26 The lambs are for thy clothing, and the goats are the price of the field.  27 And thou shalt have goats' milk enough for thy food, for the food of thy household, and for the maintenance for thy maidens.

    The wicked flee when no man pursueth : but the righteous are bold as a lion.  2 For the transgression of a land many are the princes thereof: but by a man of understanding and knowledge the state thereof shall be prolonged .  3 A poor man that oppresseth the poor is like a sweeping rain which leaveth no food.  4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them.  5 Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.  6 Better is the poor that walketh in his uprightness, than he that is perverse in his ways, though he be rich.  7 Whoso keepeth the law is a wise son: but he that is a companion of riotous men shameth his father.  8 He that by usury and unjust gain increaseth his substance, he shall gather it for him that will pity the poor.  9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.  10 Whoso causeth the righteous to go astray in an evil way, he shall fall himself into his own pit: but the upright shall have good things in possession .  11 The rich man is wise in his own conceit; but the poor that hath understanding searcheth him out .  12 When righteous men do rejoice , there is great glory: but when the wicked rise , a man is hidden .  13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper : but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy .  14 Happy is the man that feareth alway: but he that hardeneth his heart shall fall into mischief.  15 As a roaring lion, and a ranging bear; so is a wicked ruler over the poor people.  16 The prince that wanteth understanding is also a great oppressor: but he that hateth covetousness shall prolong his days.  17 A man that doeth violence to the blood of any person shall flee to the pit; let no man stay him.  18 Whoso walketh uprightly shall be saved : but he that is perverse in his ways shall fall at once.  19 He that tilleth his land shall have plenty of bread: but he that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough.  20 A faithful man shall abound with blessings: but he that maketh haste to be rich shall not be innocent .  21 To have respect of persons is not good: for for a piece of bread that man will transgress .  22 He that hasteth to be rich hath an evil eye, and considereth not that poverty shall come upon him.  23 He that rebuketh a man afterwards shall find more favour than he that flattereth with the tongue.  24 Whoso robbeth his father or his mother, and saith , It is no transgression; the same is the companion of a destroyer  .  25 He that is of a proud heart stirreth up strife: but he that putteth his trust in the LORD shall be made fat .  26 He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered .  27 He that giveth unto the poor shall not lack: but he that hideth his eyes shall have many a curse.  28 When the wicked rise , men hide themselves: but when they perish , the righteous increase .

    He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed , and that without remedy.  2 When the righteous are in authority , the people rejoice : but when the wicked beareth rule , the people mourn .  3 Whoso loveth wisdom rejoiceth his father: but he that keepeth company with harlots spendeth his substance.  4 The king by judgment establisheth the land: but he that receiveth gifts overthroweth it.  5 A man that flattereth his neighbour spreadeth a net for his feet.  6 In the transgression of an evil man there is a snare: but the righteous doth sing and rejoice.  7 The righteous considereth the cause of the poor: but the wicked regardeth not to know it.  8 Scornful men bring a city into a snare : but wise men turn away wrath.  9 If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh , there is no rest.  10 The bloodthirsty  hate the upright: but the just seek his soul.  11 A fool uttereth all his mind: but a wise man keepeth it in till afterwards.  12 If a ruler hearken to lies , all his servants are wicked.  13 The poor and the deceitful man meet together : the LORD lighteneth both their eyes.  14 The king that faithfully judgeth the poor, his throne shall be established for ever.  15 The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame .  16 When the wicked are multiplied , transgression increaseth : but the righteous shall see their fall.  17 Correct thy son, and he shall give thee rest ; yea, he shall give delight unto thy soul.  18 Where there is no vision, the people perish : but he that keepeth the law, happy is he.  19 A servant will not be corrected by words: for though he understand he will not answer.  20 Seest thou a man that is hasty in his words? there is more hope of a fool than of him.  21 He that delicately bringeth up his servant from a child shall have him become his son at the length.  22 An angry man stirreth up strife, and a furious man aboundeth in transgression.  23 A man's pride shall bring him low : but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.  24 Whoso is partner with a thief hateth his own soul: he heareth cursing, and bewrayeth it not.  25 The fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be safe .  26 Many seek the ruler's favour; but every man's judgment cometh from the LORD.  27 An unjust man is an abomination to the just: and he that is upright in the way is abomination to the wicked.

    I neither learned wisdom, nor have the knowledge of the holy.  4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended ? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell ?  5 Every word of God is pure : he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.  6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar .  7 Two things have I required of thee; deny me them not before I die :  8 Remove far from me vanity and lies  : give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me:  9 Lest I be full , and deny thee, and say , Who is the LORD? or lest I be poor , and steal , and take the name of my God in vain.  10 Accuse not a servant unto his master, lest he curse thee, and thou be found guilty .  11 There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother.  12 There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.  13 There is a generation, O how lofty are their eyes! and their eyelids are lifted up .  14 There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men.  15 The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give , give . There are three things that are never satisfied , yea, four things say not, It is enough:  16 The grave; and the barren womb; the earth that is not filled with water; and the fire that saith not, It is enough.  17 The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it out , and the young eagles shall eat it.  18 There be three things which are too wonderful for me, yea, four which I know not:  19 The way of an eagle in the air; the way of a serpent upon a rock; the way of a ship in the midst of the sea; and the way of a man with a maid.  20 Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth , and wipeth her mouth, and saith , I have done no wickedness.  21 For three things the earth is disquieted , and for four which it cannot bear :  22 For a servant when he reigneth ; and a fool when he is filled with meat;  23 For an odious woman when she is married ; and an handmaid that is heir to her mistress.  24 There be four things which are little upon the earth, but they are exceeding wise:  25 The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer;  26 The conies are but a feeble folk, yet make they their houses in the rocks;  27 The locusts have no king, yet go they forth all of them by bands ;  28 The spider taketh hold with her hands, and is in kings' palaces.  29 There be three things which go well , yea, four are comely in going :  30 A lion which is strongest among beasts, and turneth not away for any;  31 A greyhound  ; an he goat also; and a king, against whom there is no rising up.  32 If thou hast done foolishly in lifting up thyself, or if thou hast thought evil , lay thine hand upon thy mouth.  33 Surely the churning of milk bringeth forth butter, and the wringing of the nose bringeth forth blood: so the forcing of wrath bringeth forth strife.

    What, my son? and what, the son of my womb? and what, the son of my vows?  3 Give not thy strength unto women, nor thy ways to that which destroyeth kings.  4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for  princes strong drink:  5 Lest they drink , and forget the law , and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted .  6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish , and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.  7 Let him drink , and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.  8 Open thy mouth for the dumb in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction.  9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.  10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.  11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.  12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.  13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.  14 She is like the merchants ' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.  15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.  16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.  17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.  18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.  19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.  20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.  21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.  22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.  23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.  24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.  25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.  26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.  27 She looketh well to the ways  of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.  28 Her children arise up , and call her blessed ; her husband also, and he praiseth her.  29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.  30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised .  31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.
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    I have said repeatedly that a good-church and a good-state should be able to work closely together without weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth -- but if one is faced with the specter of a bad-church and/or a bad-state -- they should be kept miles apart. History seems to be dominated by bad-churches and bad-states (with very few exceptions). This dire state of affairs seems to be ongoing. I honestly do NOT enjoy focusing on "Dirty-Linen" -- but making things better involves understanding the "Way Things Have Been" and the "Way Things Are". Historical Catholic Issues often seem to dominate because of the Age and Size of the Roman Catholic Church. But really -- their problems and embarrassments are really the problems and embarrassments of Humanity. An SDA minister told me that if the SDA church was as big and old as the Catholic church -- the problems and embarrassments would be similar. I simply think that solving the world's problems involves "Walking in the Shoes of the Major Religious Organizations of the World -- Historically and Presently". Consider the Magdalene Laundries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magdalene_asylum Magdalene asylums, also known as Magdalene laundries, were institutions from the 18th to the late 20th centuries ostensibly to house "fallen women", a term used to imply female sexual promiscuity or work in prostitution. Asylums operated throughout Europe and North America for much of the nineteenth and well into the twentieth century, the last one closing in 1996. The institutions were named after the Biblical character Mary Magdalene, in earlier centuries characterised as a reformed prostitute.

    The first Magdalene institution was founded in late 1758 in Whitechapel, England,[1] which led to the establishment of a similar institution in Ireland by 1767.[1] The first Magdalene asylum in the United States was the Magdalen Society of Philadelphia, founded in 1800; other North American cities, including New York, Boston, Chicago, and Toronto, quickly followed suit.[2][3] In the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, Magdalene asylums were common in several countries.[2] By 1900, there were more than 300 asylums in England and more than 20 in Scotland.[1][4]

    From the early 1890s to the 1960s, most Australian state capitals had a large convent which contained a commercial laundry where the work was done by mostly teenage girls who were placed in the convent, voluntarily or involuntarily, for reasons such as being destitute, uncontrollable, or picked up by the police.[5] According to James Franklin, the girls came from a variety of very disturbed and deprived backgrounds and were individually hard to deal with in many cases.[6]

    Laundry work was regarded as suitable as it did not require much training nor substantial capital expense. Memories of conditions in the convent laundries by former inmates are consistently negative, detailing verbal abuse, and very hard work. In accordance with the traditions of the nuns, much of the day proceeded in silence.[7] Like orphanages, they received almost no government funds. As in any underfunded institution, the food was described as bland. The nuns shared the conditions of the inmates, such as the bad food, hard work, the confinement and the long periods of silence. Education for residents was either of poor quality or lacking altogether. There was no physical contact on the part of the sisters, and no emotional contact in the sense of listening to the girls’ own concerns.

    Dangers included diseases and workplace accidents. In 1889 one of the sisters of Abbotsford lost her hand in an accident involving a laundry machinery.[8] Conditions of manual work were harsh everywhere.The state-run Parramatta Girls Home, which also had a laundry, had similar harsh conditions but a worse record for assaults.[9]

    The asylums were initially established as refuges, with the residents free to leave. In the early 1900s, they reluctantly began to accept court referrals.[8] "They took in girls whom no-one else wanted and who were forcibly confined, contrary to the wishes of both the girls and the nuns."[6] A 1954 report of the Sun Herald of a visit to the Ashford laundry found 55 girls there involuntarily, 124 voluntary inmates including 65 mentally challenged adult women and about 30 who were originally there involuntarily but had stayed on, with dormitories described as seriously overcrowded.[10]

    A network of asylums across Canada were operated by the Congregation of the Sisters of Misericorde, which was founded in 1848. According to the Catholic Encyclopedia: "In receiving patients no discrimination is made in regard to religion, colour, or nationality. After their convalescence, those who desire to remain in the home are placed under a special sister and are known as 'Daughters of St. Margaret'. They follow a certain rule of life but contract no religious obligations. Should they desire to remain in the convent, after a period of probation, they are allowed to become Magdalens and eventually make the vows of the Magdalen institute."[11] The order also ran several other types of institutions, including some in the United States.[citation needed]

    The first Magdalen institution, Magdalen Hospital for the Reception of Penitent Prostitutes, was founded in late 1758 in London and was active to 1966.[1]

    An estimated 30,000 women were confined in Irish asylums. The first asylum in Ireland opened on Leeson Street in Dublin in 1765, founded by Lady Arabella Denny. The last Irish asylum closed in 1996. In Belfast, in Northern Ireland, the Church of Ireland-run Ulster Magdalene Asylum was founded in 1839, while parallel institutions were run by Catholics and Presbyterians.[12][13]

    A mass grave containing 155 corpses was discovered in 1993 at the grounds of a former convent in Dublin.[14] This eventually led to media revelations about the operations of the secretive institutions. A formal state apology was issued in 2013, and a €60 million compensation scheme was set up. The Vatican and the four religious institutes that ran the Irish asylums have refused to compensate the survivors of abuse, despite demands from the Irish government, the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child and the UN Committee Against Torture.[15][16][17][18]

    The Magdalene Sisters, a 2002 film by Peter Mullan, is based on historical facts about four young women incarcerated in a Dublin Magdalene Laundry from 1964 to 1968.

    Senator Martin McAleese's report on the Laundries glossed over[according to whom?] details of the abuse.[19] In 2013 the BBC did a special investigation, Sue Lloyd Roberts "Demanding justice for women and children abused by Irish nuns." [20] The Sisters of Mercy, Sisters of Our Lady of Charity of the Good Shepherd, and Sisters of Charity, have ignored requests by the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child and the UN Committee Against Torture to contribute to the compensation fund for victims including 600 still alive in March 2014.[21]

    Asylum records show that in the early history of the Magdalene movement, many women entered and left the institutions of their own accord, sometimes repeatedly. Lu Ann De Cunzo wrote in her book, Reform, Respite, Ritual: An Archaeology of Institutions; The Magdalene Society of Philadelphia, 1800-1850,[22] that the women in Philadelphia's asylum "sought a refuge and a respite from disease, the prison or almshouse, unhappy family situations, abusive men and dire economic circumstances."[citation needed] In its early years, the Magdalen Society Asylum functioned as a refuge for prostitutes. Most of these stayed only a few days or a few weeks, just long enough to get reclothed and recuperated. Attempts at rehabilitation met with little success. In 1877, the asylum was changed into a home for wayward girls, with a rule requiring a stay for twelve months. As the Magdalen Society Asylum became more selective, relaxed its emphasis on personal guilt and salvation, and standardized in some respects the treatment of the inmates, its rate of failure diminished.[23]

    New York's Magdalen Society was established in 1830 with the purpose of rescuing women from lives of prostitution and vice— sometimes kidnapping them from brothels. In 1907 a new home was established in the Inwood section of Manhattan. This was the second time the Society found it necessary to move to a larger facility. Many of the young women who passed through the doors of the Inwood institution had worked the taverns, brothels and alleyways of lower Manhattan before being “rescued” by the Society. Girls were generally committed for a period of three years. Through the years several girls died or were injured climbing out of windows in failed escape attempts. In 1917 the Magdalen Benevolent Society changed its name to Inwood House. In the early 1920s bichloride of mercury was commonly used to treat new arrivals for venereal disease, resulting in a number of cases of mercury poisoning. The property was later sold and the agency relocated. Inwood House continues to operate, with its main focus on teen pregnancy.[25]

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    Raftery, Mary; Eoin O'Sullivan (1999). Suffer the Little Children: The Inside Story of Ireland's Industrial Schools. Dublin: New Island. ISBN 1-874597-83-9.
    Sixsmith, Martin (2009). The Lost Child of Philomena Lee: A Mother, Her Son and a Fifty-Year Search. London: Macmillan. ISBN 9780230744271. OCLC 373479096. The Lost Child of Philomena Lee at Google Books (another edition). It formed the basis for the 2013 film Philomena.
    Parrot, Andrea; Nina Cummings (2006). Forsaken Females: The Global Brutalization of Women. Lanham, Maryland: Rowman & Littlefield. ISBN 978-0742545786.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:41 am

    I recently spoke with someone (I have known for a long time) who told me about being followed by a UFO for approximately 30 miles. They have had multiple UFO sightings. They also spoke of more than one after-death encounter -- following the deaths of loved-ones. I believe their reports -- but I am neutral and ambiguous regarding the interpretation of what actually occurred. I am open to learning of the experiences of others -- but I do not seek supernatural or otherworldly experiences and encounters. I think I might've crossed that line with some of my early internet posting -- and my encounter with someone identifying themselves with the name of an Ancient Egyptian Deity might've been the result. Some might call this spiritualism -- but I certainly don't think that is what occurred. I'm frankly not sure what really happened. I was friendly and neutral toward this individual -- but I was in no way submissive or worshipful toward them. Anyway, here is some more SaLuSa material. I'm not a disciple in any way whatsoever -- but I like to provide this sort of thing to keep all of us on our toes!!

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    bobhardee wrote:12/5/2014   For what its worth.

    SaLuSa via Mike Quinsey: December 5, 2014

    We were very pleased to step aside and allow Michael to send out another message in place of our usual one. The information sent out should lift your spirits considerably, as you have waited a very long time for an uplifting message that clearly indicates the beginning of many welcome changes on Earth.

    There are many changes to come for which the preparations have already been made. It means that very little time will be lost in changing your current situation of war and disharmony, to a different condition that heralds the coming of love and peace on Earth.

    We have often told you that changes are coming, and at last you will have a clear signal of confirmation. Many will still refuse to believe what they see happening before their very eyes, but denial will not hide the fact that the new Era has started.

    If you look back you will find that we have kept out word, which has meant that the Galactic Federation has been busy ensuring that world peace is upheld. Minor wars and other uprisings will eventually cease, and there will come a time when such negative actions will be impossible to carry out. The vibrations are steadily rising and in the future will be too high for any such negative actions to manifest.

    Dear Ones, the battle between the dark and Light is almost over, and in your time you will see those responsible for your demise removed so that they can no longer delay the changes. Such actions will fulfil the promises made to you a long time ago, and we thank those who have steadfastly stood by our side and refused to be moved from their path.

    As we have already mentioned, it is your responsibility to help others through the changes and direct them onto the path of Light. We and other groups working for the Light will not cease our efforts to ensure progress is made, and we guard against interference from any source whatsoever.

    Matters are well advanced now but as always we rely on all Lightworkers to diligently carry out their tasks. Naturally, having reached such a pivotal point in the progress of the Human Race, every effort is being used to give your evolution a major step forward. Indeed it is quite apparent that many souls are aware that something is happening that is very positive, even if they are unaware as to how it will manifest.

    Regrettably your news outlets are still under the influence of the minions of the dark Ones, and you do not learn the truth as to what is happening to your world. However, good news cannot be kept concealed indefinitely and it will start to seep through regardless of the methods being used to suppress it.

    As always, part of our mission is to patrol your skies to ensure that there are no uninvited visitors, or attempts made to place weapons in Space that could be used against you. Your Earth has been in quarantine for many years, so as to ensure that no other civilisations can influence you or interfere with your progress.

    Sometimes it has been necessary to allow an approach to be made, but only to test your reactions. It has helped your understanding of the Universe and other life forms that exist all over it. Many other civilisations are way ahead of you in intelligence, but as you evolve so you too will have the opportunity to greatly increase your levels. Far from holding you back, as your Guardians we are keen to help you progress as quickly as possible, returning you to levels that you previously held.

    Where your sightings of our craft are concerned, unless you are able to identify the different sources that they come from it can be confusing. Your dark Ones are now so advanced in being able to design and manufacture craft similar to ours, that apart from the markings that appear on some of them, they can look very much alike.

    This can also lead to incidents that are thought to be caused by ET’s, when it is your own black operations at work. We know that not for the first time their thoughts have turned to creating an incident that could be blamed on us. We cannot interfere with your choice of action, unless it is of such proportions it is liable to change the plan for your Solar System. You do not however need to worry about the future as it is assured, and you are already entering the energies of the New Age.

    Mother Earth is also beginning to bring changes into being, as she also is moving into the New Age. Her work is to cleanse the Earth and restore it to its previous pristine condition and it happens over a period of time, as she also rises up through the new vibrations.

    So as you can see, there is a lot of action taking place all of which is to your advantage and ultimately for your peaceful and rewarding existence. You are leaving the lower vibrations for good and every help is being given to lift you up.

    When you set out on your journey eons of time ago, you were happy souls determined to make the most of your opportunity to experience the lower vibrations. You knew that you would never be deserted and that your progress would be carefully monitored, and when the time came you would be helped to return to the Light. That time has now arrived and already progress is being made, we have always been with you and soon it will be a reality as we meet you in person once again.

    We share your joy at the thought of meeting once again, and although we are happy too we do not experience the extremes of emotions like you do. Our feelings centre around Universal Love which allows us to feel the depth of happiness that comes with it. It is not easy to put it into your words, as they are not always adequate for the expression needed.

    However, when you come into our presence you will know beyond doubt that we are Beings of Love, and indeed you will feel it. It is a state of being that is peace and joy rolled into one, and it shall be yours when you have evolved into a fully evolved Being.

    I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and pleased to be able to expand your understanding of the times you have now entered. Enjoy them as you leave the lower vibrations behind.

    Thank you SaLuSa

    Mike Quinse
    bobhardee wrote:01/31/2015

    SaLuSa via Mike Quinsey 1-30-15

    Nothing will change the predictions for the completion of this cycle, except the highest authority. Once made many Lightworkers are given the tasks of ensuring that all proceeds as required to fulfil them.

    You may therefore proceed with your life, knowing that there is a great finale to come with the end of the influence of the dark Ones. They shall find themselves unable to exert any influence on what takes place, as they will have their power taken away from them. They will also be removed from Earth to ensure that workers of the Light can go ahead with their missions.

    Until now the dark Ones have consistently interfered with your evolution, and been able to block or slow down progress. This situation is rapidly changing and will soon come under our control. You will then be able to go ahead with your tasks without fear, and make headway quicker than any previous occasion.

    Dear Ones we hear your pleas and requests for help, and soon we shall be able to assist you in a more direct manner. Have no fear at any time as the lower energies will attract a like energy, whereas you are working with the higher energies.

    The significance of the coming changes are such that they can hardly be put into words. Everything will be affected to some degree, and much of the lower energies will be either changed or removed in the course of time. The Earth will become renewed and once more be seen as a jewel in the firmament. While all this is taking place you too will be renewed as you become a fully-fledged Galactic Being.

    We tell you what lies ahead because the knowledge will help you both understand and get through the various stages of the changes. You may be overwhelmed by the thought of what the future holds, but know that we will be having a more direct contact with you. So there is no need to be concerned as the future is everything that you could wish for that would bring you peace, happiness and prosperity.

    Meantime you can carry on with your work for the Light, knowing that you have many unseen helpers around you. It is only when you realise that you are not alone on your mission that you can begin to understand why often things just seem to fall in place when you need them.

    You were aware of the arrangement before you came to Earth, but after dropping into the lower vibrations you became forgetful of your circumstances. However, with time you gradually raised your vibrations for which you deserve every praise. It is why that at this time we and others can approach you, and enlighten you as to what lies ahead.

    Your consciousness has grown and now you can accept the truth of your place in the Cosmos. The game that has been played on Earth is soon to change its course and lift you up from the challenges of the 3rd. dimension. They have well served their purpose, and you have progressed sufficiently to move further into the Light.

    You have experienced the result of Man’s interpretation of the meaning and purpose of life and it has, so to say, led you up the garden path. They have caused you to follow false creeds and believe in a Creator that is seen in Man’s image. Yet Jesus – the greatest Teacher in your time – made it clear that the Creator is All Love, and that no living creature or Being is outside of the Creator.

    The goal of every soul is to grow and progress within the Light until you once again become One with the Source. As you progress through your various life experiences, you will move further into the Light. You will become a greater Light Being with immense powers of creation, but much of this is way into your future. However, you do need to know the purpose of life. Nothing that you experience is by chance, so consider carefully why certain events in your life take place.

    People normally gravitate to those who are of a similar vibration, but for the outworking of karma you may find yourself involved with souls from all different levels. That even extends to the union of two people in marriage, or their children. Karmic experiences can be arranged before you incarnate, so you will understand that nothing happens by chance.

    Of course there are many minor experiences that are of no real consequence but you never know for example, when a chance meeting may grow to become of prime importance. Because of your freewill, you may turn down an opportunity intended to bring you necessary experiences, but when it is important to your evolution you may be sure it will come up again.

    Some people do not believe in God or that there is a purpose in life, yet both will affect the outcome of whatever experiences they choose. You cannot remove God from your life, and it will have been planned prior to your birth regardless of what you may believe.

    Naturally upon returning to the higher dimensions all is revealed to you when you review your life. No life opportunity to learn is wasted regardless of how it may appear. Indeed, you are not going to know exactly why a certain soul has elected to experience in a particular manner.

    However, when two or more people come together, each will have been aware as to what part they play. Sometimes a soul will come into life for only a very short period, simply to help create a situation that is necessary for the experiences of others. However, when you try to relate that to babies it may simply be that the soul has decided not to incarnate after all. That option is open to all but very few change their minds once the arrangements are settled.

    So as you can see, everything is not in black or white and souls do have a say in what type of life they are entering. Usually once the purpose of a life is decided and it is seen to advance the souls evolution, it is very rare for a soul to pull out. You do have many discarnate souls working with you to ensure your success.

    I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and I serve those souls who have bravely and without fear taken on an Earth life to be in service to others. However, all souls have Guides and no one, not even the dark Ones are excluded. Do not be reluctant to ask for help when it is needed, however Karma does not always allow what you request, so if your prayers seem unanswered, there will be a very good reason for it.

    I leave you with my Love and Light, and the best wishes from the Galactic Federation.

    Thank you SaLuSa

    Mike Quinsey

    SaLuSa. Channelled by Mike Quinsey. January 30, 2015. http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com
    bobhardee wrote:March 8, 2015
    SaLuSa via Mike Quinsey: March 6, 2015

    I bring greetings from the Galactic Forces who follow your progress with great interest, having accompanied you through many lives.

    However, our involvement with you has never been more intense than it is now, as you approach the end of your experiences in the old paradigm. We have come a long way together, and we admire your determination to stick to your tasks and achieve victory over the dark Ones.

    The fact that you have effectively already won that battle does not mean you have no further work to do, and the emphasis is now upon maintaining your position in the higher vibrations. They are your future and also protection while you keep focussed on your present role assisting the Light.

    We have spoken previously about your ability to stand within your own Light, and not be affected by anything going on around you. Now that you have come this far, you have created an aura that is potentially impregnable, but it does depend on you being able to keep it intact.

    It means not being distracted or mislead by any attempts to divert your attention elsewhere. Keeping calm in the face of situations that are a test of your strength, is the challenge that you face.

    Remember that you have come through the trials and tribulations that the 3rd. dimension has thrown at you. You have won the battle yet you still have to lift yourselves up to the higher dimensions.

    The dark Ones will make their last attempts to distract you but with a little effort you should overcome them. By now your awakening should have enabled you to look beyond the programming that has tied you down, to see the deception that has been placed upon you.

    We tell you again that you are far greater than you imagine or have been led to believe. You are in reality great Beings of Light which you will again be when you merge with your Higher Self. So tell yourself that you have the full potential to be great once more, and nothing is beyond your capabilities.

    For too long you have laboured under the impression that you are lowly Beings and have suffered in consequence. Now you are beginning to understand why you have been held back through the actions of the dark Ones, but now their power has been diminished and you are regaining yours.

    While you are spreading the Light we as always keep a watchful eye on you, and will not allow any interference with your progress that will affect the outcome. We can do much to prevent any attempt to delay or intervene in your work, and often you are unaware of such attempts.

    Bear in mind that the End Times are such that a lot of karma or unfinished work is carried out. Often it is left until this period of time as when you have raised your vibrations, your ability to deal with outstanding issues is that much higher. Do not belittle yourselves as you have immense potential and by projecting such a belief you empower yourselves.

    The Law of Attraction is powerful and a true reality but works in ways that you may not realise. You must be positive at all times, as a negative attitude will attract more of the same. By making the affirmation that you can do something rather than asking for help to do it, you will advance much quicker. Results may not always happen as quickly as you would like, but will come in good time.

    God does not play games with you but there are other Beings that for different reasons will masquerade as God and try to lead you in a different direction. Your intuitive powers should make you suspicious of such entities, particularly if you are enticed by attractive propositions. However, if you have come to terms with your ego you should recognise attempts to mislead you.

    Until you have fully returned to the Light you will encounter various obstacles on your path at different times. Be alert and know that God and the Higher Beings do not play games with you, and are all Love and you will know them by their Light.

    You may have been cut off from us, but now that the veils that have hidden the truth are being removed, you will gradually regain full understanding. Be ready to learn the greater truths about yourselves and be ready to take your place amongst us.

    Some souls are not yet ready to learn about the truth of your existence or indeed your past history, but that is not going to hold back their progress. They will be guided to a path that will take them forward and lessons will be learnt regardless of how long it takes. This is why we ask you to see the Light in all souls and never prejudge them, as you do not know what challenges they have undertaken.

    Coming out of the darkness into the Light is a powerful experience and souls doing so need compassion and help to be successful. Have you not been told by the great Teacher, Jesus, to be careful who you entertain as you will not know when you are in the company of an Angelic Being. If you treat all people with respect and kindness you will be doing the best you can for them and yourself.

    In reality life is not complicated but in your present dimension there is a continuous battle with the lower vibrations. At every turn there is the potential challenge that may catch you off guard, yet if you are strong in your beliefs they cannot cause you any harm.

    There is only the one great power that is immutable and above all else and that is Love, and all you need to sail through your experiences. Love every soul and if their demeanour is such that you find it repulsive you clearly do not have to strike up a friendship with them.

    You have a saying that “If you cannot say anything good about someone do not say anything bad” and that is a good way of life. Like will attract like, which you have surely found and you should already have a circle of friends who you are in harmony with.

    We of the Galactic Fleets are ready to arrive on Earth within a short time of being given the command. So be assured that there will be no delay on our part once the situation is such that we can safely visit you. We do not want to directly interfere with your progress, but will follow orders given to us for you betterment.

    Be assured we are here for you and look forward to meeting you in peaceful circumstances.

    I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and represent the Light forces that care for you.

    I send you Love and best wishes for a successful end to your sojourn.

    Thank you SaLuSa

    Mike Quinsey
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    Post  B.B.Baghor Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:57 pm

    Thank you for highlighting this SaLuSa material, ortho. Just to understand you better, is your encounter
    with the people who were followed by an UFO and had after-death encounters, in a way connected to the SaLuSa
    messages?

    I've always paid attention to those messages by SaLuSa, for I feel an energy of loving kindness in them.
    I'm, like you, no devotee or disciple, of beings or organisations. I fell in the cauldron of religion and had
    enough of the magic potion for the remaining part of my life  Bleh I found that the general view on our
    soul-purpose/journey, by SaLuSa, is similar to the one in the message by Jeshua, I posted today.
    In the Mercedes Kirkel thread.

    If I may ask, ortho, was your encounter with the being (or beings?) with the name of an Ancient Egyptian Deity,
    in person, or did it occur in the astral realms? That first blue spaceship-deck picture in your post looks great,
    that "window with a view". What a view!
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:26 pm

    B.B.Baghor wrote:Thank you for highlighting this SaLuSa material, ortho. Just to understand you better, is your encounter with the people who were followed by an UFO and had after-death encounters, in a way connected to the SaLuSa messages?

    There is no connection (as far as I know) -- other than being supernatural and otherworldly. This thread is just a big melting-pot of strange roads-less-traveled. There is a basic theme -- but I try not to get into harangue-mode. I just seem to make everyone angry with my irreverent and questioning approach -- as I search for solutions which might ultimately benefit everyone.

    I've always paid attention to those messages by SaLuSa, for I feel an energy of loving kindness in them. I'm, like you, no devotee or disciple, of beings or organizations. I fell in the cauldron of religion and had enough of the magic potion for the remaining part of my life  Bleh I found that the general view on our soul-purpose/journey, by SaLuSa, is similar to the one in the message by Jeshua, I posted today. In the Mercedes Kirkel thread.

    B.B.Baghor wrote:
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    Received by Mercedes Kirkel  On February 5, 2015

    Yeshua: What I wish to bring forth is very simple, perhaps not easy, but nonetheless simple. It is about healing.

    There is really only ever one healing, which is the healing of separation from God. All other healing is a variation upon that, a certain frequency within that, which an individual may be more open to receiving in a particular moment. Ultimately, it does not matter if someone is healed physically or not. Certainly we care about others. Certainly our heart wishes others to be in their wellness, in their wholeness. Yet there are times, quite a few times, when it is pain that draws someone to God. So the healing is never about relieving pain or suffering. The healing is about relieving separation from God.

    You cannot necessarily tell this to people, unless they are ready to hear it, because they won’t understand. You may choose to offer healing of pain or suffering, and that may support someone in their path of coming closer to God. But ultimately, it is not your job to relieve anyone of pain. Your job is to fulfill your path of offering your gifts and service—to God and to the world—in the way that is most right for you. Then let go of the results because the results are divinely orchestrated. You are playing your part in this divine orchestra.

    This is what I wish to offer. Are there any questions you wish to ask?

    Question: In my particular case, is doing healing work one of the possible things that helps me to fully express my soul?

    Yeshua: You will always know what helps you to express your soul because the things your soul is choosing for its expression are the things that connect you to God. So this is the measure you can use to determine if something is your path. Ultimately, you do healing for yourself, because it is your path to do so and by following your path you are connecting to God. It is your connection to God that serves others, more than anything you do to alter their circumstance. Your connection to God helps them most directly to connect to God. If healing is the pathway through which you can offer that, then that is your path. If chewing bubble gum is the pathway through which you can offer that, that is your path. It does not matter.

    Questioner: I also feel close to God through gardening.

    Yeshua: Yes. And there are all sorts of ways that you bless the Earth and all the people on the Earth through every touch of the Earth. There are infinite ways to serve. It is all about your connection to God and what lights you up, what brings your joy, what brings you passion—which is simply the energy of God filling you.

    Questioner: (crying) That’s what I miss the most about my daughter [who died]. I felt like the love of God would shine through her eyes. Almost immediately after she died, I realized I’m left here on Earth to create that, without having it be for her.

    Yeshua: Yes, you are understanding perfectly.

    Questioner: The beauty that I saw in her was just God’s love shining through.

    Yeshua: Absolutely. That is all there is. That is all this realm consists of. Any being stays in this realm until they realize that and become God’s light themselves. Then they are ready to leave and continue in another realm.

    Questioner: My mother, in her dementia, has been screaming out that she was abused when she was younger. The doctors are wondering if this really happened, but I have no proof. Can you tell me if this actually happened?

    Yeshua: You are not understanding what’s happening correctly.

    The mind is a filter. The mind filters out the vast amount of information contained in your whole universe, which is the kind of information that exists in the Akashic Record—the information of everything. This would totally overwhelm beings and they would be nonfunctional if they received all this information. So the mind filters this out. When someone has dementia, they are losing their filter. So your mother is opening up to massive amounts of information that may be hers and may be others’.

    Ultimately, it does not matter if this happened to her or did not happen to her, if it happened to her in this lifetime or if it happened to her in another lifetime. It does not matter. It is her reality now. She is experiencing this now. So you should relate to her as though this is what’s happening now.
    Give her the exact response you would give her if this were definitely the truth and her real situation—because it is, for her.

    She may very well need healing. I would say she definitely needs compassion and a safe space to express her pain. Support her in expressing her pain and allow her to do so. Let her know, “Yes, yes, I hear how much pain you’re in, how painful and awful that must have been. Is there more you want to share?” Let her share. And help her, just as you would if this had happened recently.

    I offer you my deepest, fullest blessings".

    ©️2015 Mercedes Kirkel, http://www.mercedeskirkel.com, All Rights Reserved. Permission is given to share this message as long as the message is posted in its entirety, nothing has been changed or altered in any way, and Mercedes Kirkel’s credit of authorship, this copyright notice, and Mercedes Kirkel’s website (http://www.mercedeskirkel.com) are included. To receive ongoing messages from Mary Magdalene and others, go to http://www.mercedeskirkel.com and sign up for the Into The Heart weekly newsletter.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:My focus on the concept of the Science-Fictional Hybrid-Queen is somewhat reflective of Lilith -- Isis -- the Queen of Sheba -- the Black Madonna -- Cleopatra -- and Mary Magdalene. I tend to gravitate toward the Mean-Queen Theme. What Would Bloody-Mary Do?? Do you really wanna know??? I am presently very-open and very-skeptical toward just about everyone and everything -- including most of the material I post on "my" thread. Anybody can write or say just about anything. A lot of religious stuff is very difficult (or even impossible) to verify. Lawyer-Like Theologians and Preachers can slant things in a most dishonest and nefarious manner. A channeled religious-figure could really be some demonic-entity (for all anyone knows). I honestly don't know if I am fundamentally good or bad (especially in previous incarnations). Life is really a big annoying question-mark for me. I have a particular editorial-slant -- but I am even skeptical of that. I have no idea how much I think and say is representative of the way things really are. No idea at all. I'm presently reading a book about Mary Magdalene by Lynn Picknett. It's quite fine -- but I'm reading it with a Dead-Sea of Salt. http://www.amazon.com/Mary-Magdalene-Lynn-Picknett/dp/0786713119/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426017841&sr=8-1&keywords=lynn+picknett Tradition and history have made of her "the other Mary." Even in the New Testament Mary Magdalene stands among women second only to Mary the Mother, albeit she has been reduced by the biblical Gospels to little more than a fallen woman redeemed by Jesus. In the Gnostic Gospels, however, Magdalene figures almost as significantly as Christ, who names her "the woman who knows all." The conflicting accounts of Mary Magdalene have sent best-selling author Lynn Picknett on a quest for the truth that has led her to the thirteenth-century cult of the Black Madonna, then back to Christianity's beginnings and earlier. Tracing Mary's name to Magdala in Egypt, Picknett learns that the term Magdal-eder means "tower of the flock," or Good Shepherd, a title also given to Jesus Christ. Based on her explorations into new scholarship on recently discovered Gnostic texts, Picknett finds a vital partnership between Jesus and Mary that synthesized Eastern and Egyptian mysticism and that promulgated gender equality, anointing rites, and sexual rituals. In that relationship, she discovers an alliance that Christ's Apostles and, later, the Catholic Church strove ardently to suppress. Picknett's revelations rarely fail to provoke at least a reconsideration of long-accepted church doctrine.



    B.B.Baghor wrote:
    ortho's words: "I'm presently reading a book about Mary Magdalene by Lynn Picknett. It's quite fine -- but I'm reading it with a Dead-Sea of Salt"

    Your sense of humor is priceless, ortho, at least you can read the book while floating, on the sea of tears, in laughter or sadness LOL

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    On my part, regarding my way of dealing with such messages like in this thread and other channeled material, or those on ET existence, intraterrestrial beings, from hands on experience, astral traveling or through hearing voices, also views from all kind of sources on global affairs of all 13 kinds, I usually make sense of them, when I feel I can relate to the content, feeling touched by it in a good way. And inspired, uplifted or heart-warmed.

    I've made it a habit, to explore at least 5 sources of a certain piece of information, comparing and making sense of it or not. Grains of salt are very useful, also having them near, when reading my sometimes bold statements. I mean the style, not the content, This statement is an example of what I mean, throwing confusion in for those who can read between my/the lines. Cheerful
    I try to study various approaches without becoming submissive to particular personalities and/or power-structures -- but this is not fundamentally rebellious in nature. I'm honestly attempting to positively-reinforce everyone and everything -- even if it doesn't seem like it.

    If I may ask, ortho, was your encounter with the being (or beings?) with the name of an Ancient Egyptian Deity, in person, or did it occur in the astral realms? That first blue spaceship-deck picture in your post looks great, that "window with a view". What a view!

    It was in-person over several months. It was rather interesting and intense. I have repeatedly featured this close-encounter throughout this thread -- but I haven't made a great-big deal about it. A visitor or casual-observer would probably miss it altogether. I'd like to travel the cosmos in a spaceship -- but the price of admission might be way too high -- and I strongly advise against getting into a UFO. The Ancient Egyptian Deity was a Guardian of the Galaxy kind of guy -- and I'm NOT kidding!!
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    Here is yet another slight KJV study-list variation:

    1. Deuteronomy.
    2. Job through Isaiah.
    3. Luke.

    I continue to be interested in what seems to be two or three different Bibles and/or Gods within the Holy Bible.

    1. Genesis through Esther.
    2. Job through Malachi.
    3. Matthew through Revelation.

    If all else fails -- try this study-list:

    1. Job through John (KJV).
    2. Prophets and Kings (EGW).
    3. The Music of J.S. Bach.

    The Ancient Egyptian Deity said they liked Genesis -- and they said it in a rather creepy manner. Sherry Shriner said that Matthew was her favorite book of the Bible -- but she focuses on Revelation -- and upon violent and horrific prophetic-stuff and current-events -- as sort of a Galactic-Enquirer. http://sherrytalkradio.com/ My current bias is toward studying Job through John while listening to the music of J.S. Bach in the context of this particular thread -- but this sort of thing is not for everyone. This is a rather harsh and disorienting research-project. Don't try this at home kiddies!! "Make the coffee, Jupiter??" I hate my life...

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    Hear , O heavens, and give ear , O earth: for the LORD hath spoken , I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.  3 The ox knoweth his owner , and the ass his master's crib: but Israel doth not know , my people doth not consider .  4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers , children that are corrupters : they have forsaken  the LORD, they have provoked  the Holy One of Israel unto anger , they are gone away backward.  5 Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more : the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.  6 From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed , neither bound up , neither mollified with ointment.  7 Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers .  8 And the daughter of Zion is left as a cottage in a vineyard, as a lodge in a garden of cucumbers, as a besieged city.  9 Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.  10 Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.  11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.  12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?  13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with ; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.  14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth : they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.  

    And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear : your hands are full of blood.  16 Wash you, make you clean ; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil ;  17 Learn to do well ; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.  18 Come now , and let us reason together , saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.  19 If ye be willing and obedient , ye shall eat the good of the land:  20 But if ye refuse and rebel , ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.  21 How is the faithful city become an harlot ! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers .  22 Thy silver is become dross, thy wine mixed with water:  23 Thy princes are rebellious , and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.  24 Therefore saith the Lord, the LORD of hosts, the mighty One of Israel, Ah, I will ease me of mine adversaries, and avenge me of mine enemies :  25 And I will turn my hand upon thee, and purely purge away thy dross, and take away all thy tin:  26 And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called , The city of righteousness, the faithful city.  27 Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.  28 And the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners shall be together, and they that forsake the LORD shall be consumed .  29 For they shall be ashamed of the oaks which ye have desired , and ye shall be confounded for the gardens that ye have chosen .  30 For ye shall be as an oak whose leaf fadeth , and as a garden that hath no water.  31 And the strong shall be as tow, and the maker of it as a spark, and they shall both burn together, and none shall quench them.

    The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.  2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.  3 And many people shall go and say , Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.  4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.  5 O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the LORD.  6 Therefore thou hast forsaken thy people the house of Jacob, because they be replenished from the east, and are soothsayers like the Philistines, and they please themselves in the children of strangers.  7 Their land also is full of silver and gold, neither is there any end of their treasures; their land is also full of horses, neither is there any end of their chariots:  8 Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made :  9 And the mean man boweth down , and the great man humbleth himself: therefore forgive them not.  10 Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty.  11 The lofty looks of man shall be humbled , and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down , and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day.  12 For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty , and upon every one that is lifted up ; and he shall be brought low :  13 And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up , and upon all the oaks of Bashan,  14 And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up ,  15 And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall,  16 And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures.  17 And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down , and the haughtiness of men shall be made low : and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day.  18 And the idols he shall utterly abolish .  19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.  20 In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship , to the moles and to the bats;  21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.  22 Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?

    For, behold, the Lord, the LORD of hosts, doth take away from Jerusalem and from Judah the stay and the staff, the whole stay of bread, and the whole stay of water,  2 The mighty man, and the man of war, the judge , and the prophet, and the prudent , and the ancient,  3 The captain of fifty, and the honourable man, and the counsellor , and the cunning artificer, and the eloquent orator.  4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.  5 And the people shall be oppressed , every one by another, and every one by his neighbour: the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient, and the base against the honourable .  6 When a man shall take hold of his brother of the house of his father, saying, Thou hast clothing, be thou our ruler, and let this ruin be under thy hand:  7 In that day shall he swear , saying , I will not be an healer ; for in my house is neither bread nor clothing: make me not a ruler of the people.  8 For Jerusalem is ruined , and Judah is fallen : because their tongue and their doings are against the LORD, to provoke the eyes of his glory.  9 The shew of their countenance doth witness against them ; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves.  10 Say ye to the righteous, that it shall be well with him: for they shall eat the fruit of their doings.  11 Woe unto the wicked! it shall be ill with him: for the reward of his hands shall be given him.  12 As for my people, children are their oppressors , and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err , and destroy the way of thy paths.  13 The LORD standeth up to plead , and standeth to judge the people.  14 The LORD will enter into judgment with the ancients of his people, and the princes thereof: for ye have eaten up the vineyard; the spoil of the poor is in your houses.  15 What mean ye that ye beat my people to pieces , and grind the faces of the poor? saith the Lord GOD of hosts.  16 Moreover the LORD saith , Because the daughters of Zion are haughty , and walk with stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go , and making a tinkling with their feet:  17 Therefore the Lord will smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the LORD will discover their secret parts.  18 In that day the Lord will take away the bravery of their tinkling ornaments about their feet, and their cauls, and their round tires like the moon,  19 The chains, and the bracelets, and the mufflers,  20 The bonnets, and the ornaments of the legs, and the headbands, and the tablets , and the earrings,  21 The rings, and nose jewels,  22 The changeable suits of apparel, and the mantles, and the wimples, and the crisping pins,  23 The glasses, and the fine linen, and the hoods, and the vails.  24 And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth; and burning instead of beauty.  25 Thy men shall fall by the sword, and thy mighty in the war.  26 And her gates shall lament and mourn ; and she being desolate shall sit upon the ground.

    And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying , We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.  2 In that day shall the branch of the LORD be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel.  3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:  4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning .  5 And the LORD will create upon every dwelling place of mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory shall be a defence.  6 And there shall be a tabernacle for a shadow in the daytime from the heat, and for a place of refuge, and for a covert from storm and from rain.

    Now will I sing to my wellbeloved a song of my beloved touching his vineyard. My wellbeloved hath a vineyard in a very fruitful  hill:  2 And he fenced it, and gathered out the stones thereof, and planted it with the choicest vine, and built a tower in the midst of it, and also made a winepress therein: and he looked that it should bring forth grapes, and it brought forth wild grapes.  3 And now, O inhabitants of Jerusalem, and men of Judah, judge , I pray you, betwixt me and my vineyard.  4 What could have been done more to my vineyard, that I have not done in it? wherefore, when I looked that it should bring forth grapes, brought it forth wild grapes?  5 And now go to; I will tell you what I will do to my vineyard: I will take away the hedge thereof, and it shall be eaten up ; and break down the wall thereof, and it shall be trodden down:  6 And I will lay it waste: it shall not be pruned , nor digged ; but there shall come up briers and thorns: I will also command the clouds that they rain no rain upon it.  7 For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry.  8 Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place, that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth!  9 In mine ears said the LORD of hosts, Of a truth many houses shall be desolate, even great and fair, without inhabitant .  10 Yea, ten acres of vineyard shall yield one bath, and the seed of an homer shall yield an ephah.  11 Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!  12 And the harp, and the viol, the tabret, and pipe, and wine, are in their feasts: but they regard not the work of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hands.  13 Therefore my people are gone into captivity , because they have no knowledge: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst.  14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.  

    And the mean man shall be brought down , and the mighty man shall be humbled , and the eyes of the lofty shall be humbled :  16 But the LORD of hosts shall be exalted in judgment, and God that is holy shall be sanctified in righteousness.  17 Then shall the lambs feed after their manner, and the waste places of the fat ones shall strangers eat .  18 Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as it were with a cart rope:  19 That say , Let him make speed , and hasten his work, that we may see it: and let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel draw nigh and come , that we may know it!  20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!  21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!  22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:  23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!  24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame  consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.  25 Therefore is the anger of the LORD kindled against his people, and he hath stretched forth his hand against them, and hath smitten them: and the hills did tremble , and their carcases were torn in the midst of the streets. For all this his anger is not turned away , but his hand is stretched out still.  26 And he will lift up an ensign to the nations from far, and will hiss unto them from the end of the earth: and, behold, they shall come with speed swiftly:  27 None shall be weary nor stumble among them; none shall slumber nor sleep ; neither shall the girdle of their loins be loosed , nor the latchet of their shoes be broken :  28 Whose arrows are sharp , and all their bows bent , their horses' hoofs shall be counted like flint, and their wheels like a whirlwind:  29 Their roaring shall be like a lion, they shall roar like young lions: yea, they shall roar , and lay hold of the prey, and shall carry it away safe , and none shall deliver it.  30 And in that day they shall roar against them like the roaring of the sea: and if one look unto the land, behold darkness and sorrow, and the light is darkened in the heavens thereof.

    In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up , and his train filled the temple.  2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly .  3 And one cried unto another, and said , Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.  4 And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried , and the house was filled with smoke.  5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone ; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.  6 Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:  7 And he laid it upon my mouth, and said , Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away , and thy sin purged .  8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying , Whom shall I send , and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.  9 And he said , Go , and tell this people, Hear ye indeed , but understand not; and see ye indeed , but perceive not.  10 Make the heart of this people fat , and make their ears heavy , and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert , and be healed .  11 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered , Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant , and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate ,  12 And the LORD have removed men far away , and there be a great forsaking in the midst of the land.  13 But yet in it shall be a tenth, and it shall return , and shall be eaten : as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is in them, when they cast their leaves: so the holy seed shall be the substance thereof.

    And it came to pass in the days of Ahaz the son of Jotham, the son of Uzziah, king of Judah, that Rezin the king of Syria, and Pekah the son of Remaliah, king of Israel, went up toward Jerusalem to war against it, but could not prevail against it.  2 And it was told the house of David, saying , Syria is confederate with Ephraim. And his heart was moved , and the heart of his people, as the trees of the wood are moved with the wind.  3 Then said the LORD unto Isaiah, Go forth now to meet Ahaz, thou, and Shearjashub thy son, at the end of the conduit of the upper pool in the highway of the fuller's field;  4 And say unto him, Take heed , and be quiet ; fear not, neither be fainthearted  for the two tails of these smoking firebrands, for the fierce anger of Rezin with Syria, and of the son of Remaliah.  5 Because Syria, Ephraim, and the son of Remaliah, have taken evil counsel against thee, saying ,  6 Let us go up against Judah, and vex it, and let us make a breach therein for us, and set a king in the midst of it, even the son of Tabeal:  7 Thus saith the Lord GOD, It shall not stand , neither shall it come to pass.  8 For the head of Syria is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Rezin; and within threescore and five years shall Ephraim be broken , that it be not a people.  9 And the head of Ephraim is Samaria, and the head of Samaria is Remaliah's son. If ye will not believe , surely ye shall not be established .  10 Moreover the LORD spake again unto Ahaz, saying ,  11 Ask thee a sign of the LORD thy God; ask it either in the depth , or in the height above.  12 But Ahaz said , I will not ask , neither will I tempt  the LORD.  13 And he said , Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also?  14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel .  15 Butter and honey shall he eat , that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good.  16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.  17 The LORD shall bring upon thee, and upon thy people, and upon thy father's house, days that have not come , from the day that Ephraim departed from Judah; even the king of Assyria.  18 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall hiss for the fly that is in the uttermost part of the rivers of Egypt, and for the bee that is in the land of Assyria.  19 And they shall come , and shall rest all of them in the desolate valleys, and in the holes of the rocks, and upon all thorns, and upon all bushes.  20 In the same day shall the Lord shave with a razor that is hired, namely, by them beyond the river, by the king of Assyria, the head, and the hair of the feet: and it shall also consume the beard.  21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a man shall nourish a young cow, and two sheep;  22 And it shall come to pass, for the abundance of milk that they shall give he shall eat butter: for butter and honey shall every one eat that is left in the land.  23 And it shall come to pass in that day, that every place shall be, where there were a thousand vines at a thousand silverlings, it shall even be for briers and thorns.  24 With arrows and with bows shall men come thither; because all the land shall become briers and thorns.  25 And on all hills that shall be digged with the mattock, there shall not come thither the fear of briers and thorns: but it shall be for the sending forth of oxen, and for the treading of lesser cattle.

    Moreover the LORD said unto me, Take thee a great roll, and write in it with a man's pen concerning Mahershalalhashbaz.  2 And I took unto me faithful witnesses to record , Uriah the priest, and Zechariah the son of Jeberechiah.  3 And I went unto the prophetess; and she conceived , and bare a son. Then said the LORD to me, Call his name Mahershalalhashbaz.  4 For before the child shall have knowledge to cry , My father, and my mother, the riches of Damascus and the spoil of Samaria shall be taken away before the king of Assyria.  5 The LORD spake also unto me again , saying ,  6 Forasmuch as this people refuseth the waters of Shiloah that go softly, and rejoice in Rezin and Remaliah's son;  7 Now therefore, behold, the Lord bringeth up upon them the waters of the river, strong and many, even the king of Assyria, and all his glory: and he shall come up over all his channels, and go over all his banks:  8 And he shall pass through Judah; he shall overflow and go over , he shall reach even to the neck; and the stretching out of his wings shall fill the breadth of thy land, O Immanuel .  9 Associate yourselves, O ye people, and ye shall be broken in pieces ; and give ear , all ye of far countries: gird yourselves, and ye shall be broken in pieces ; gird yourselves, and ye shall be broken in pieces .  10 Take counsel together , and it shall come to nought ; speak the word, and it shall not stand : for God is with us.  11 For the LORD spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying ,  12 Say ye not, A confederacy, to all them to whom this people shall say , A confederacy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid .  13 Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread .  14 And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.  15 And many among them shall stumble , and fall , and be broken , and be snared , and be taken .  16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.  17 And I will wait upon the LORD, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him.  18 Behold, I and the children whom the LORD hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the LORD of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion.  19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep , and that mutter : should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead ?  20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.  21 And they shall pass through it, hardly bestead and hungry: and it shall come to pass, that when they shall be hungry , they shall fret themselves, and curse their king and their God, and look upward.  22 And they shall look unto the earth; and behold trouble and darkness, dimness of anguish; and they shall be driven to darkness.

    Nevertheless the dimness shall not be such as was in her vexation, when at the first he lightly afflicted the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, and afterward did more grievously afflict her by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, in Galilee of the nations.  2 The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined .  3 Thou hast multiplied the nation, and not increased the joy: they joy before thee according to the joy in harvest, and as men rejoice when they divide the spoil.  4 For thou hast broken the yoke of his burden, and the staff of his shoulder, the rod of his oppressor , as in the day of Midian.  5 For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this shall be with burning and fuel of fire.  6 For unto us a child is born , unto us a son is given : and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor , The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.  7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.  8 The Lord sent a word into Jacob, and it hath lighted upon Israel.  9 And all the people shall know , even Ephraim and the inhabitant of Samaria, that say in the pride and stoutness of heart,  10 The bricks are fallen down , but we will build with hewn stones: the sycomores are cut down , but we will change them into cedars.  11 Therefore the LORD shall set up the adversaries of Rezin against him, and join his enemies together ;  12 The Syrians before, and the Philistines behind; and they shall devour Israel with open mouth. For all this his anger is not turned away , but his hand is stretched out still .  13 For the people turneth not unto him that smiteth them, neither do they seek the LORD of hosts.  14 Therefore the LORD will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day.  15 The ancient and honourable  , he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.  16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err ; and they that are led of them are destroyed .  17 Therefore the Lord shall have no joy in their young men, neither shall have mercy on their fatherless and widows: for every one is an hypocrite and an evildoer , and every mouth speaketh folly. For all this his anger is not turned away , but his hand is stretched out still .  18 For wickedness burneth as the fire: it shall devour the briers and thorns, and shall kindle in the thickets of the forest, and they shall mount up like the lifting up of smoke.  19 Through the wrath of the LORD of hosts is the land darkened , and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire: no man shall spare his brother.  20 And he shall snatch on the right hand, and be hungry; and he shall eat on the left hand, and they shall not be satisfied : they shall eat every man the flesh of his own arm:  21 Manasseh, Ephraim; and Ephraim, Manasseh: and they together shall be against Judah. For all this his anger is not turned away , but his hand is stretched out still.

    Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees, and that write grievousness which they have prescribed ;  2 To turn aside the needy from judgment, and to take away the right from the poor of my people, that widows may be their prey, and that they may rob the fatherless!  3 And what will ye do in the day of visitation, and in the desolation which shall come from far? to whom will ye flee for help? and where will ye leave your glory?  4 Without me they shall bow down under the prisoners, and they shall fall under the slain . For all this his anger is not turned away , but his hand is stretched out still .  5 O Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is mine indignation.  6 I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge , to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down  like the mire of the streets.  7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.  8 For he saith , Are not my princes altogether kings?  9 Is not Calno as Carchemish? is not Hamath as Arpad? is not Samaria as Damascus?  10 As my hand hath found the kingdoms of the idols, and whose graven images did excel them of Jerusalem and of Samaria;  11 Shall I not, as I have done unto Samaria and her idols, so do to Jerusalem and her idols?  12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed his whole work upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks.  13 For he saith , By the strength of my hand I have done it, and by my wisdom; for I am prudent : and I have removed the bounds of the people, and have robbed their treasures  , and I have put down the inhabitants like a valiant man:  14 And my hand hath found as a nest the riches of the people: and as one gathereth eggs that are left , have I gathered all the earth; and there was none that moved the wing, or opened the mouth, or peeped .  15 Shall the axe boast itself against him that heweth therewith? or shall the saw magnify itself against him that shaketh it? as if the rod should shake itself against them that lift it up , or as if the staff should lift up itself, as if it were no wood.  

    Therefore shall the Lord, the Lord  of hosts, send among his fat ones leanness; and under his glory he shall kindle a burning like the burning of a fire. 17 And the light of Israel shall be for a fire, and his Holy One for a flame: and it shall burn and devour his thorns and his briers in one day;  18 And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standardbearer fainteth .  19 And the rest of the trees of his forest shall be few, that a child may write them.  20 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.  21 The remnant shall return , even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty God.  22 For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return : the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness.  23 For the Lord GOD of hosts shall make a consumption, even determined , in the midst of all the land.  24 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD of hosts, O my people that dwellest in Zion, be not afraid of the Assyrian: he shall smite thee with a rod, and shall lift up his staff against thee, after the manner of Egypt.  25 For yet a very little while, and the indignation shall cease , and mine anger in their destruction.  26 And the LORD of hosts shall stir up a scourge for him according to the slaughter of Midian at the rock of Oreb: and as his rod was upon the sea, so shall he lift it up after the manner of Egypt.  27 And it shall come to pass in that day, that his burden shall be taken away from off thy shoulder, and his yoke from off thy neck, and the yoke shall be destroyed because of the anointing.  28 He is come to Aiath, he is passed to Migron; at Michmash he hath laid up his carriages:  29 They are gone over the passage: they have taken up their lodging at Geba; Ramah is afraid ; Gibeah of Saul is fled .  30 Lift up thy voice, O daughter of Gallim: cause it to be heard unto Laish, O poor Anathoth.  31 Madmenah is removed ; the inhabitants of Gebim gather themselves to flee .  32 As yet shall he remain at Nob that day: he shall shake his hand against the mount of the daughter  of Zion, the hill of Jerusalem.  33 Behold, the Lord, the LORD of hosts, shall lop the bough with terror: and the high ones of stature shall be hewn down , and the haughty shall be humbled .  34 And he shall cut down the thickets of the forest with iron, and Lebanon shall fall by a mighty one.

    And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:  2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;  3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:  4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.  5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.  6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.  7 And the cow and the bear shall feed ; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.  8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.  9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.  10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek : and his rest shall be glorious.  11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left , from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.  12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.  13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart , and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off : Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim.  14 But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west; they shall spoil them of the east together: they shall lay their hand upon Edom and Moab; and the children of Ammon shall obey them.  15 And the LORD shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with his mighty wind shall he shake his hand over the river, and shall smite it in the seven streams, and make men go over dryshod.  16 And there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people, which shall be left , from Assyria; like as it was to Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt.

    And in that day thou shalt say , O LORD, I will praise thee: though thou wast angry with me, thine anger is turned away , and thou comfortedst me.  2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust , and not be afraid : for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.  3 Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation.  4 And in that day shall ye say , Praise the LORD, call upon his name, declare his doings among the people, make mention that his name is exalted .  5 Sing unto the LORD; for he hath done excellent things: this is known in all the earth.  6 Cry out and shout , thou inhabitant of Zion: for great is the Holy One of Israel in the midst of thee.

    The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz did see .  2 Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain, exalt the voice unto them, shake the hand, that they may go into the gates of the nobles.  3 I have commanded my sanctified ones , I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger, even them that rejoice in my highness.  4 The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together : the LORD of hosts mustereth the host of the battle.  5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.  6 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.  7 Therefore shall all hands be faint , and every man's heart shall melt :  8 And they shall be afraid : pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth : they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames.  9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh , cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.  10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth , and the moon shall not cause her light to shine .  11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease , and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.  12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.  13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.  14 And it shall be as the chased roe, and as a sheep that no man taketh up : they shall every man turn to his own people, and flee every one into his own land.  15 Every one that is found shall be thrust through ; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword.  16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled , and their wives ravished .  17 Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, which shall not regard silver; and as for gold, they shall not delight in it.  18 Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces ; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare children.  19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.  20 It shall never be inhabited , neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there.  21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.  22 And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come , and her days shall not be prolonged.

    For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.  2 And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives , whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors .  3 And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve ,  4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say , How hath the oppressor ceased ! the golden city ceased !  5 The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers .  6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual  stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth .  7 The whole earth is at rest , and is quiet : they break forth into singing.  8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down , no feller is come up against us.  9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming : it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.  10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?  11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.  12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!  13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:  14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.  15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. 

    They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble , that did shake kingdoms;  17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?  18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.  19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain , thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet .  20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned .  21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise , nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities  .  22 For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD.  23 I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction , saith the LORD of hosts.  24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn , saying , Surely as I have thought , so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed , so shall it stand :  25 That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot : then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.  26 This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth: and this is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations.  27 For the LORD of hosts hath purposed , and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out , and who shall turn it back ?  28 In the year that king Ahaz died was this burden.  29 Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken : for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.  30 And the firstborn of the poor shall feed , and the needy shall lie down in safety: and I will kill thy root with famine, and he shall slay thy remnant.  31 Howl , O gate; cry , O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved : for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.  32 What shall one then answer the messengers of the nation? That the LORD hath founded Zion, and the poor of his people shall trust in it.


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    What if -- at some point -- the fancy technology and weaponry will ALL be under the control of a Central-Computer -- and beyond the control of Humanity -- Divinity -- Angels -- Demons -- Aliens -- et al??!! What if a Central-Computer will administer the Cleansing of the Sanctuary -- which might include Investigative and Executive Judgments -- potentially terminating in 2133 AD??!! I'm being more serious than you can imagine -- and it's scaring the hell out of me. Honest. Consider the Large Hadron Collider. There's something creepy about the whole particle-accelerator phenomenon. I discussed the Loma Linda University Proton-Accelerator with the Ancient Egyptian Deity -- but I don't want to talk about it. What Would James Slater Say?? Sherry Shriner said some alarming things about the LHC in her March 2 and 9 (2015) shows. She seems to cough and choke when she says things which are especially revealing -- and she did a lot of coughing and choking in those shows. It's as if "they" have her on some sort of a leash -- and she claims "they" are making her cough and choke. I tend to think there's something to that -- believe it, or not. She thinks that the LHC will open up some sort of a portal, which will bring in demonic-beings to inflict who-knows-what upon Earth and Humanity. http://sherrytalkradio.com/ It's interesting to me that the movie Angels and Demons featured the LHC. BTW -- didn't timetotelltheworld on the old Project Avalon go on and on about Accelerators on top of Post Offices (or something like that)?? I tried to converse with them -- but it was rather difficult -- as they seemed to be highly distraught. Two of my favorite sci-fi shows -- Stargate SG-1 and Babylon 5 -- feature the stargate-phenomenon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider

    The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is the world's largest and most powerful particle collider, and the largest single machine in the world,[1] built by the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) from 1998 to 2008.

    Its aim is to allow physicists to test the predictions of different theories of particle physics and high-energy physics like the Standard Model, and particularly prove or disprove the existence of the theorized Higgs boson[2] and of the large family of new particles predicted by supersymmetric theories.[3] The discovery of a particle matching the Higgs boson was confirmed by data from the LHC in 2013. The LHC is expected to address some of the unsolved questions of physics, advancing human understanding of physical laws. It contains seven detectors, each designed for certain kinds of research.

    The LHC was built in collaboration with over 10,000 scientists and engineers from over 100 countries, as well as hundreds of universities and laboratories.[4] It lies in a tunnel 27 kilometres (17 mi) in circumference, as deep as 175 metres (574 ft) beneath the Franco-Swiss border near Geneva, Switzerland. It is also the longest machine ever built.

    As of 2014, the LHC remains the largest and most complex experimental facility ever built. Its synchrotron is designed to collide two opposing particle beams of either protons at up to 4 teraelectronvolts (4 TeV or 0.64 microjoules), or lead nuclei (574 TeV per nucleus, or 2.76 TeV per nucleon),[5][6] with energies to be increased to around 6.5 TeV (13 TeV collision energy) —about seven times the previous record— in 2015. Collision data was also anticipated to be produced at an unprecedented rate of tens of petabytes per year, to be analysed by a grid-based computer network infrastructure connecting 140 computing centers in 35 countries[7][8] (by 2012 the LHC Computing Grid was the world's largest computing grid, comprising over 170 computing facilities in a worldwide network across 36 countries[9][10][11]).

    The LHC went live on 10 September 2008, with proton beams successfully circulated in the main ring of the LHC for the first time,[12] but nine days later a faulty electrical connection led to the rupture of a liquid helium enclosure, causing both a magnet quench and several tons of helium gas escaping with explosive force. The incident resulted in damage to over 50 superconducting magnets and their mountings, and contamination of the vacuum pipe, and delayed further operations by 14 months.[13][14] On November 20, 2009 proton beams were successfully circulated again,[15][16] with the first recorded proton–proton collisions occurring three days later at the injection energy of 450 GeV per beam.[17] On March 30, 2010, the first collisions took place between two 3.5 TeV beams, setting a world record for the highest-energy man-made particle collisions,[18] and the LHC began its planned research program.

    The LHC has discovered a massive 125 GeV boson (which subsequent results confirmed to be the long-sought Higgs boson) and several composite particles (hadrons) like the χb (3P) bottomonium state, created a quark–gluon plasma, and recorded the first observations of the very rare decay of the Bs meson into two muons (Bs0 → μ+μ−), which challenged the validity of existing models of supersymmetry.[19]

    The LHC operated at 3.5 TeV per beam in 2010 and 2011 and at 4 TeV in 2012.[20] Proton–proton collisions are the main operation mode. It collided protons with lead nuclei for two months in 2013 and used lead–lead collisions for about one month each in 2010, 2011 and 2013. The LHC went into shutdown for upgrades to increase beam energy to 6.5 TeV per beam, with reopening currently planned for mid-March 2015.[21][22]

    The term hadron refers to composite particles composed of quarks held together by the strong force (as atoms and molecules are held together by the electromagnetic force). The best-known hadrons are the baryons protons and neutrons; hadrons also include mesons such as the pion and kaon, which were discovered during cosmic ray experiments in the late 1940s and early 1950s.

    A collider is a type of a particle accelerator with two directed beams of particles. In particle physics colliders are used as a research tool: they accelerate particles to very high kinetic energies and let them impact other particles. Analysis of the byproducts of these collisions gives scientists good evidence of the structure of the subatomic world and the laws of nature governing it. Many of these byproducts are produced only by high energy collisions, and they decay after very short periods of time. Thus many of them are hard or near impossible to study in other ways.

    Physicists hope that the LHC will help answer some of the fundamental open questions in physics, concerning the basic laws governing the interactions and forces among the elementary objects, the deep structure of space and time, and in particular the interrelation between quantum mechanics and general relativity, where current theories and knowledge are unclear or break down altogether. Data is also needed from high energy particle experiments to suggest which versions of current scientific models are more likely to be correct – in particular to choose between the Standard Model and Higgsless models and to validate their predictions and allow further theoretical development. Many theorists expect new physics beyond the Standard Model to emerge at the TeV energy level, as the Standard Model appears to be unsatisfactory. Issues possibly to be explored by LHC collisions include:[23][24] Are the masses of elementary particles actually generated by the Higgs mechanism via electroweak symmetry breaking?[25] It is expected that the collider will either demonstrate or rule out the existence of the elusive Higgs boson, thereby allowing physicists to consider whether the Standard Model or its Higgsless alternatives are more likely to be correct.[26][27][28]

    Is supersymmetry, an extension of the Standard Model and Poincaré symmetry, realized in nature, implying that all known particles have supersymmetric partners?[29][30][31] Are there extra dimensions,[32] as predicted by various models based on string theory, and can we detect them?[33] What is the nature of the dark matter that appears to account for 27% of the mass-energy of the universe?

    Other open questions that may be explored using high energy particle collisions:

    It is already known that electromagnetism and the weak nuclear force are different manifestations of a single force called the electroweak force. The LHC may clarify whether the electroweak force and the strong nuclear force are similarly just different manifestations of one universal unified force, as predicted by various Grand Unification Theories.

    Why is the fourth fundamental force (gravity) so many orders of magnitude weaker than the other three fundamental forces? See also Hierarchy problem.
    Are there additional sources of quark flavour mixing, beyond those already present within the Standard Model?

    Why are there apparent violations of the symmetry between matter and antimatter? See also CP violation.

    What are the nature and properties of quark–gluon plasma, believed to have existed in the early universe and in certain compact and strange astronomical objects today? This will be investigated by heavy ion collisions, mainly in ALICE.

    A Feynman diagram of one way the Higgs boson may be produced at the LHC. Here, two quarks each emit a W or Z boson, which combine to make a neutral Higgs.

    The LHC is the world's largest and highest-energy particle accelerator.[5][34] The collider is contained in a circular tunnel, with a circumference of 27 kilometres (17 mi), at a depth ranging from 50 to 175 metres (164 to 574 ft) underground.

    The 3.8-metre (12 ft) wide concrete-lined tunnel, constructed between 1983 and 1988, was formerly used to house the Large Electron–Positron Collider.[35] It crosses the border between Switzerland and France at four points, with most of it in France. Surface buildings hold ancillary equipment such as compressors, ventilation equipment, control electronics and refrigeration plants.

    The collider tunnel contains two adjacent parallel beamlines (or beam pipes) that intersect at four points, each containing a proton beam, which travel in opposite directions around the ring. Some 1,232 dipole magnets keep the beams on their circular path (see image[36]), while an additional 392 quadrupole magnets are used to keep the beams focused, in order to maximize the chances of interaction between the particles in the four intersection points, where the two beams cross. In total, over 1,600 superconducting magnets are installed, with most weighing over 27 tonnes.[37] Approximately 96 tonnes of superfluid helium 4 is needed to keep the magnets, made of copper-clad niobium-titanium, at their operating temperature of 1.9 K (−271.25 °C), making the LHC the largest cryogenic facility in the world at liquid helium temperature.

    Superconducting quadrupole electromagnets are used to direct the beams to four intersection points, where interactions between accelerated protons will take place. When running at full design power of 7 TeV per beam, once or twice a day, as the protons are accelerated from 450 GeV to 7 TeV, the field of the superconducting dipole magnets will be increased from 0.54 to 8.3 teslas (T). The protons will each have an energy of 7 TeV, giving a total collision energy of 14 TeV. At this energy the protons have a Lorentz factor of about 7,500 and move at about 0.999999991 c, or about 3 metres per second slower than the speed of light (c).[38] It will take less than 90 microseconds (μs) for a proton to travel once around the main ring – a speed of about 11,000 revolutions per second. Rather than continuous beams, the protons will be bunched together, into up to 2,808 bunches, with 115 billion protons in each bunch so that interactions between the two beams will take place at discrete intervals never shorter than 25 nanoseconds (ns) apart, providing a bunch collision rate of 40 MHz. However it will be operated with fewer bunches when it is first commissioned, giving it a bunch crossing interval of 75 ns.[39] The design luminosity of the LHC is 1034 cm−2s−1.[40]

    Prior to being injected into the main accelerator, the particles are prepared by a series of systems that successively increase their energy. The first system is the linear particle accelerator LINAC 2 generating 50-MeV protons, which feeds the Proton Synchrotron Booster (PSB). There the protons are accelerated to 1.4 GeV and injected into the Proton Synchrotron (PS), where they are accelerated to 26 GeV. Finally the Super Proton Synchrotron (SPS) is used to further increase their energy to 450 GeV before they are at last injected (over a period of several minutes) into the main ring. Here the proton bunches are accumulated, accelerated (over a period of 20 minutes) to their peak energy, and finally circulated for 5 to 24 hours while collisions occur at the four intersection points.[41]

    The LHC physics program is mainly based on proton–proton collisions. However, shorter running periods, typically one month per year, with heavy-ion collisions are included in the program. While lighter ions are considered as well, the baseline scheme deals with lead ions[42] (see A Large Ion Collider Experiment). The lead ions are first accelerated by the linear accelerator LINAC 3, and the Low-Energy Ion Ring (LEIR) is used as an ion storage and cooler unit. The ions are then further accelerated by the PS and SPS before being injected into LHC ring, where they reached an energy of 1.58 TeV per nucleon (or 328 TeV per ion), higher than the energies reached by the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider. The aim of the heavy-ion program is to investigate quark–gluon plasma, which existed in the early universe.

    Seven detectors have been constructed at the LHC, located underground in large caverns excavated at the LHC's intersection points. Two of them, the ATLAS experiment and the Compact Muon Solenoid (CMS), are large, general purpose particle detectors.[34] ALICE and LHCb have more specific roles and the last three, TOTEM, MoEDAL and LHCf, are very much smaller and are for very specialized research. The BBC's summary of the main detectors is:[43]

    ATLAS One of two general purpose detectors. ATLAS will be used to look for signs of new physics, including the origins of mass and extra dimensions.

    CMS The other general purpose detector will, like ATLAS, hunt for the Higgs boson and look for clues to the nature of dark matter.

    ALICE ALICE is studying a "fluid" form of matter called quark–gluon plasma that existed shortly after the Big Bang.

    LHCb Equal amounts of matter and antimatter were created in the Big Bang. LHCb will try to investigate what happened to the "missing" antimatter.

    The LHC Computing Grid is an international collaborative project that consists of a grid-based computer network infrastructure initially connecting 140 computing centers in 35 countries (over 170 in 36 countries as of 2012). It was designed by CERN to handle the significant volume of data produced by LHC experiments.[7][8]

    By 2012 data from over 6 quadrillion (6 x 1015) LHC proton-proton collisions had been analyzed,[44] LHC collision data was being produced at approximately 25 petabytes per year, and the LHC Computing Grid had become the world's largest computing grid (as of 2012), comprising over 170 computing facilities in a worldwide network across 36 countries.[9][10][11]

    The first beam was circulated through the collider on the morning of 10 September 2008.[43] CERN successfully fired the protons around the tunnel in stages, three kilometres at a time. The particles were fired in a clockwise direction into the accelerator and successfully steered around it at 10:28 local time.[45] The LHC successfully completed its major test: after a series of trial runs, two white dots flashed on a computer screen showing the protons travelled the full length of the collider. It took less than one hour to guide the stream of particles around its inaugural circuit.[46] CERN next successfully sent a beam of protons in a counterclockwise direction, taking slightly longer at one and a half hours due to a problem with the cryogenics, with the full circuit being completed at 14:59.

    On 19 September 2008, a magnet quench occurred in about 100 bending magnets in sectors 3 and 4, where an electrical fault led to a loss of approximately six tonnes of liquid helium (the magnets' cryogenic coolant), which was vented into the tunnel. The escaping vapor expanded with explosive force, damaging over 50 superconducting magnets and their mountings, and contaminating the vacuum pipe, which also lost vacuum conditions.[13][14][47]

    Shortly after the incident CERN reported that the most likely cause of the problem was a faulty electrical connection between two magnets, and that – due to the time needed to warm up the affected sectors and then cool them back down to operating temperature – it would take at least two months to fix.[48] CERN released an interim technical report[47] and preliminary analysis of the incident on 15 and 16 October 2008 respectively,[49] and a more detailed report on 5 December 2008.[50] The analysis of the incident by CERN confirmed that an electrical fault had indeed been the cause. The faulty electrical connection had led (correctly) to a failsafe power abort of the electrical systems powering the superconducting magnets, but had also caused an electric arc (or discharge) which damaged the integrity of the supercooled helium's enclosure and vacuum insulation, causing the coolant's temperature and pressure to rapidly rise beyond the ability of the safety systems to contain it,[47] and leading to a temperature rise of about 100 degrees Celsius in some of the affected magnets. Energy stored in the superconducting magnets and electrical noise induced in other quench detectors also played a role in the rapid heating. Around two tonnes of liquid helium escaped explosively before detectors triggered an emergency stop, and a further four tonnes leaked at lower pressure in the aftermath.[47] A total of 53 magnets were damaged in the incident and were repaired or replaced during the winter shutdown.[51]

    In the original timeline of the LHC commissioning, the first "modest" high-energy collisions at a center-of-mass energy of 900 GeV were expected to take place before the end of September 2008, and the LHC was expected to be operating at 10 TeV by the end of 2008.[52] However, due to the delay caused by the above-mentioned incident, the collider was not operational until November 2009.[53] Despite the delay, LHC was officially inaugurated on 21 October 2008, in the presence of political leaders, science ministers from CERN's 20 Member States, CERN officials, and members of the worldwide scientific community.[54]

    Most of 2009 was spent on repairs and reviews from the damage caused by the quench incident, along with two further vacuum leaks identified in July 2009 which pushed the start of operations to November of that year.[55]

    On 20 November 2009, low-energy beams circulated in the tunnel for the first time since the incident, and shortly after, on 30 November, the LHC achieved 1.18 TeV per beam to become the world's highest-energy particle accelerator, beating the Tevatron's previous record of 0.98 TeV per beam held for eight years.[56]

    The early part of 2010 saw the continued ramp-up of beam in energies and early physics experiments towards 3.5 TeV per beam and on 30 March 2010, LHC set a new record for high-energy collisions by colliding proton beams at a combined energy level of 7 TeV. The attempt was the third that day, after two unsuccessful attempts in which the protons had to be "dumped" from the collider and new beams had to be injected.[57] This also marked the start of its main research program.

    The first proton run ended on 4 November 2010. A run with lead ions started on 8 November 2010, and ended on 6 December 2010,[58] allowing the ALICE experiment to study matter under extreme conditions similar to those shortly after the Big Bang.[59]

    CERN originally planned that the LHC would run through to the end of 2012, with a short break at the end of 2011 to allow for an increase in beam energy from 3.5 to 4 TeV per beam.[20] At the end of 2012 the LHC would be shut down until around 2015 to allow upgrade to a planned beam energy of 7 TeV per beam.[21] In late 2012, in light of the July 2012 discovery of a new particle, the shutdown was postponed for some weeks into early 2013, to allow additional data to be obtained prior to shutdown.

    §Timeline of operations

    10 Sep 2008 CERN successfully fired the first protons around the entire tunnel circuit in stages.
    19 Sep 2008 Magnetic quench occurred in about 100 bending magnets in sectors 3 and 4, causing a loss of approximately 6 tonnes of liquid helium.
    30 Sep 2008 First "modest" high-energy collisions planned but postponed due to accident.[37]
    16 Oct 2008 CERN released a preliminary analysis of the accident.
    21 Oct 2008 Official inauguration.
    5 Dec 2008 CERN released detailed analysis.
    20 Nov 2009 Low-energy beams circulated in the tunnel for the first time since the accident.[60]
    23 Nov 2009 First particle collisions in all four detectors at 450 GeV.
    30 Nov 2009 LHC becomes the world's highest-energy particle accelerator achieving 1.18 TeV per beam, beating the Tevatron's previous record of 0.98 TeV per beam held for eight years.[56]
    15 Dec 2009 First scientific results, covering 284 collisions in the ALICE detector.[61]
    early Feb 2010 First proton-proton collisions beyond FermiLab's energies, published by the CMS team.[62]
    28 Feb 2010 The LHC continues operations ramping energies to run at 3.5 TeV for 18 months to two years, after which it will be shut down to prepare for the 14 TeV collisions (7 TeV per beam).[63]
    30 Mar 2010 The two beams collided at 7 TeV (3.5 TeV per beam) in the LHC at 13:06 CEST, marking the start of the LHC research program.
    8 Nov 2010 Start of the first run with lead ions.
    6 Dec 2010 End of the run with lead ions. Shutdown until early 2011.
    13 Mar 2011 Beginning of the 2011 run with proton beams.[64]
    21 Apr 2011 LHC becomes the world's highest-luminosity hadron accelerator achieving a peak luminosity of 4.67·1032 cm−2s−1, beating the Tevatron's previous record of 4·1032 cm−2s−1 held for one year.[65]
    24 May 2011 Quark–gluon plasma achieved.[66]
    17 Jun 2011 The high luminosity experiments ATLAS and CMS reach 1 fb−1 of collected data.[67]
    14 Oct 2011 LHCb reaches 1 fb−1 of collected data.[68]
    23 Oct 2011 The high luminosity experiments ATLAS and CMS reach 5 fb−1 of collected data.
    Nov 2011 Second run with lead ions.
    22 Dec 2011 First new composite particle discovery, the χb (3P) bottomonium meson, observed with proton-proton collisions in 2011.[69]
    5 Apr 2012 First collisions with stable beams in 2012 after the winter shutdown. The energy is increased to 4 TeV per beam (8 TeV in collisions).[70]
    4 Jul 2012 First new elementary particle discovery, a new boson observed that is "consistent with" the theorized Higgs boson. (This has now been confirmed as the Higgs boson itself.[71])
    8 Nov 2012 First observation of the very rare decay of the Bs meson into two muons (Bs0 → μ+μ−), a major test of supersymmetry theories,[72] shows results at 3.5 sigma that match the Standard Model rather than many of its super-symmetrical variants.
    20 Jan 2013 Start of the first run colliding protons with Lead ions.
    11 Feb 2013 End of the first run colliding protons with Lead ions.
    14 Feb 2013 Beginning of the first long shutdown, to prepare the collider for a higher energy and luminosity. When reactivated in early 2015, the LHC will operate with an energy of 13 TeV, almost double its current maximum energy.[73]

    CERN scientists estimated that, if the Standard Model is correct, several Higgs bosons would be produced every minute, and that over a few years enough data to confirm or disprove the Higgs boson unambiguously and to obtain sufficient results concerning supersymmetric particles would be gathered to draw meaningful conclusions.[5] Some extensions of the Standard Model predict additional particles, such as the heavy W' and Z' gauge bosons, which may also lie within reach of the LHC to discover.[74]

    The first physics results from the LHC, involving 284 collisions which took place in the ALICE detector, were reported on 15 December 2009.[61] The results of the first proton–proton collisions at energies higher than Fermilab's Tevatron proton–antiproton collisions were published by the CMS collaboration in early February 2010, yielding greater-than-predicted charged-hadron production.[62]

    After the first year of data collection, the LHC experimental collaborations started to release their preliminary results concerning searches for new physics beyond the Standard Model in proton-proton collisions.[75][76][77][78] No evidence of new particles was detected in the 2010 data. As a result, bounds were set on the allowed parameter space of various extensions of the Standard Model, such as models with large extra dimensions, constrained versions of the Minimal Supersymmetric Standard Model, and others.[79][80][81]

    On 24 May 2011, it was reported that quark–gluon plasma (the densest matter besides black holes) has been created in the LHC.[66]

    Between July and August 2011, results of searches for the Higgs boson and for exotic particles, based on the data collected during the first half of the 2011 run, were presented in conferences in Grenoble[82] and Mumbai.[83] In the latter conference it was reported that, despite hints of a Higgs signal in earlier data, ATLAS and CMS exclude with 95% confidence level (using the CLs method) the existence of a Higgs boson with the properties predicted by the Standard Model over most of the mass region between 145 and 466 GeV.[84] The searches for new particles did not yield signals either, allowing to further constrain the parameter space of various extensions of the Standard Model, including its supersymmetric extensions.[85][86]

    On 13 December 2011, CERN reported that the Standard Model Higgs boson, if it exists, is most likely to have a mass constrained to the range 115–130 GeV. Both the CMS and ATLAS detectors have also shown intensity peaks in the 124–125 GeV range, consistent with either background noise or the observation of the Higgs boson.[87]

    On 22 December 2011, it was reported that a new particle had been observed, the χb (3P) bottomonium state.[69]

    On 4 July 2012, both the CMS and ATLAS teams announced the discovery of a boson in the mass region around 125–126 GeV, with a statistical significance at the level of 5 sigma. This meets the formal level required to announce a new particle which is consistent with the Higgs boson, but scientists were cautious as to whether it is formally identified as actually being the Higgs boson, pending further analysis.[88]

    On 8 November 2012, the LHCb team reported on an experiment seen as a "golden" test of supersymmetry theories in physics,[72] by measuring the very rare decay of the Bs meson into two muons (Bs0 → μ+μ−). The results, which match those predicted by the non-supersymmetrical Standard Model rather than the predictions of many branches of supersymmetry, show the decays are less common than some forms of supersymmetry predict, though could still match the predictions of other versions of supersymmetry theory. The results as initially drafted are stated to be short of proof but at a relatively high 3.5 sigma level of significance.[89] The result was later confirmed by the CMS collaboration.[90]

    In August 2013 the team revealed an anomaly in the angular distribution of B meson decay products which could not be predicted by the Standard Model; this anomaly had a statistical certainty of 4.5 sigma, just short of the 5 sigma needed to be officially recognized as a discovery. It is unknown what the cause of this anomaly would be, although the Z' boson has been suggested as a possible candidate.[91]

    On 19 November 2014, the LHCb experiment announced the discovery of two new heavy subatomic particles, Ξ′−
    b and Ξ∗−
    b. Both of them are baryons that are composed of one bottom, one down, and one strange quark. They are excited states of the bottom Xi baryon.[92][93]

    After some years of running, any particle physics experiment typically begins to suffer from diminishing returns: as the key results reachable by the device begin to be completed, later years of operation discover proportionately less than earlier years. A common outcome is to upgrade the devices involved, typically in energy, in luminosity, or in terms of improved detectors. As well as the planned 2013–2015 increase to its intended 14 TeV collision energy, a luminosity upgrade of the LHC, called the High Luminosity LHC, has also been proposed,[94] to be made in 2022.

    The optimal path for the LHC luminosity upgrade includes an increase in the beam current (i.e. the number of protons in the beams) and the modification of the two high-luminosity interaction regions, ATLAS and CMS. To achieve these increases, the energy of the beams at the point that they are injected into the (Super) LHC should also be increased to 1 TeV. This will require an upgrade of the full pre-injector system, the needed changes in the Super Proton Synchrotron being the most expensive. Currently the collaborative research effort of LHC Accelerator Research Program, LARP, is conducting research into how to achieve these goals.[95]

    With a budget of 7.5 billion euros (approx. $9bn or £6.19bn as of June 2010), the LHC is one of the most expensive scientific instruments[96] ever built.[97] The total cost of the project is expected to be of the order of 4.6bn Swiss francs (SFr) (approx. $4.4bn, €3.1bn, or £2.8bn as of Jan 2010) for the accelerator and 1.16bn (SFr) (approx. $1.1bn, €0.8bn, or £0.7bn as of Jan 2010) for the CERN contribution to the experiments.[98]

    The construction of LHC was approved in 1995 with a budget of SFr 2.6bn, with another SFr 210M towards the experiments. However, cost overruns, estimated in a major review in 2001 at around SFr 480M for the accelerator, and SFr 50M for the experiments, along with a reduction in CERN's budget, pushed the completion date from 2005 to April 2007.[99] The superconducting magnets were responsible for SFr 180M of the cost increase. There were also further costs and delays due to engineering difficulties encountered while building the underground cavern for the Compact Muon Solenoid,[100] and also due to faulty parts provided by Fermilab.[101] Due to lower electricity costs during the summer, the LHC normally does not operate over the winter months,[102] although an exception over the 2009/10 winter was made to make up for the 2008 start-up delays.

    Data produced by LHC, as well as LHC-related simulation, was estimated at approximately 15 petabytes per year (max throughput while running not stated).[103]

    The LHC Computing Grid[104] was constructed to handle the massive amounts of data produced. It incorporated both private fiber optic cable links and existing high-speed portions of the public Internet, enabling data transfer from CERN to academic institutions around the world.[105]

    The Open Science Grid is used as the primary infrastructure in the United States, and also as part of an interoperable federation with the LHC Computing Grid.

    The distributed computing project LHC@home was started to support the construction and calibration of the LHC. The project uses the BOINC platform, enabling anybody with an Internet connection and a computer running Mac OS X, Windows or Linux,[106] to use their computer's idle time to simulate how particles will travel in the tunnel. With this information, the scientists will be able to determine how the magnets should be calibrated to gain the most stable "orbit" of the beams in the ring.[107] In August 2011, a second application went live (Test4Theory) which performs simulations against which to compare actual test data, to determine confidence levels of the results.

    The experiments at the Large Hadron Collider sparked fears that the particle collisions might produce doomsday phenomena, involving the production of stable microscopic black holes or the creation of hypothetical particles called strangelets.[108] Two CERN-commissioned safety reviews examined these concerns and concluded that the experiments at the LHC present no danger and that there is no reason for concern,[109][110][111] a conclusion expressly endorsed by the American Physical Society.[112]

    The reports also noted that the physical conditions and collision events which exist in the LHC and similar experiments occur naturally and routinely in the universe without hazardous consequences,[110] including ultra-high-energy cosmic rays observed to impact Earth with energies far higher than those in any man-made collider.

    The size of the LHC constitutes an exceptional engineering challenge with unique operational issues on account of the amount of energy stored in the magnets and the beams.[41][113] While operating, the total energy stored in the magnets is 10 GJ (2,400 kilograms of TNT) and the total energy carried by the two beams reaches 724 MJ (173 kilograms of TNT).[114]

    Loss of only one ten-millionth part (10−7) of the beam is sufficient to quench a superconducting magnet, while the beam dump must absorb 362 MJ (87 kilograms of TNT) for each of the two beams. These energies are carried by very little matter: under nominal operating conditions (2,808 bunches per beam, 1.15×1011 protons per bunch), the beam pipes contain 1.0×10−9 gram of hydrogen, which, in standard conditions for temperature and pressure, would fill the volume of one grain of fine sand.

    On 25 October 2005, José Pereira Lages, a technician, was killed in the LHC when a switchgear that was being transported fell on him.[115] On 27 March 2007 a cryogenic magnet support broke during a pressure test involving one of the LHC's inner triplet (focusing quadrupole) magnet assemblies, provided by Fermilab and KEK. No one was injured. Fermilab director Pier Oddone stated "In this case we are dumbfounded that we missed some very simple balance of forces". This fault had been present in the original design, and remained during four engineering reviews over the following years.[116] Analysis revealed that its design, made as thin as possible for better insulation, was not strong enough to withstand the forces generated during pressure testing. Details are available in a statement from Fermilab, with which CERN is in agreement.[117][118] Repairing the broken magnet and reinforcing the eight identical assemblies used by LHC delayed the startup date, then planned for November 2007. Problems occurred on 19 September 2008 during powering tests of the main dipole circuit, when an electrical fault in the bus between magnets caused a rupture and a leak of six tonnes of liquid helium. The operation was delayed for several months.[119] It is currently believed that a faulty electrical connection between two magnets caused an arc, which compromised the liquid-helium containment. Once the cooling layer was broken, the helium flooded the surrounding vacuum layer with sufficient force to break 10-ton magnets from their mountings. The explosion also contaminated the proton tubes with soot.[50][120] This accident was thoroughly discussed in a 22 February 2010 Superconductor Science and Technology article by CERN physicist Lucio Rossi.[121] Two vacuum leaks were identified in July 2009, and the start of operations was further postponed to mid-November 2009.[55]

    The Large Hadron Collider gained a considerable amount of attention from outside the scientific community and its progress is followed by most popular science media. The LHC has also inspired works of fiction including novels, TV series, video games and films.

    The novel Angels & Demons, by Dan Brown, involves antimatter created at the LHC to be used in a weapon against the Vatican. In response CERN published a "Fact or Fiction?" page discussing the accuracy of the book's portrayal of the LHC, CERN, and particle physics in general.[122] The movie version of the book has footage filmed on-site at one of the experiments at the LHC; the director, Ron Howard, met with CERN experts in an effort to make the science in the story more accurate.[123]

    The novel FlashForward, by Robert J. Sawyer, involves the search for the Higgs boson at the LHC. CERN published a "Science and Fiction" page interviewing Sawyer and physicists about the book and the TV series based on it.[124]

    CERN employee Katherine McAlpine's "Large Hadron Rap"[125] surpassed 7 million YouTube views.[126][127] The band Les Horribles Cernettes was founded by women from CERN. The name was chosen so to have the same initials as the LHC.[128][129]

    National Geographic Channel's World's Toughest Fixes, Season 2 (2010), Episode 6 "Atom Smasher" features the replacement of the last superconducting magnet section in the repair of the supercollider after the 2008 quench incident. The episode includes actual footage from the repair facility to the inside of the supercollider, and explanations of the function, engineering, and purpose of the LHC.[130]

    The Large Hadron Collider was the focus of the 2012 student film Decay, with the movie being filmed on location in CERN's maintenance tunnels.[131]

    The third season of the popular CBS sitcom "The Big Bang Theory" features an episode revolving around a dilemma regarding a trip to Switzerland to see the Large Hadron Collider.

    The feature documentary Particle Fever follows the experimental physicists at CERN who run the experiments, as well as the theoretical physicists who attempt to provide a conceptual framework for the LHC's results. It won the Sheffield International Doc/Fest in 2013.

    Onion News Network featured a parodied news story about the LHC titled "Bored Scientists Now Just Sticking Random Things Into Large Hadron Collider".

    In the Japanese visual novel Steins;Gate developed by 5pb. and Nitroplus, the Large Hadron Collider is utilized by the game′s parody of CERN, named SERN, for time travel, and eventual world domination.[132]

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:44 pm

    I wish to repeat that this thread is a Moot Spiritual War. It is reformative and experimental -- rather than being exemplary and normative. I'm NOT like this in "Real-Life" -- and I certainly don't have this Philosophical-Potpourri mastered. Not even close. This thread is simply a Study-Guide for Educational and Entertainment Purposes ONLY. Researchers Beware. Enter at Your OWN Risk.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:I keep wondering about secrecy in connection with all of the angels, demons, aliens, ufos, underground-bases, secret space-programs, genetics-laboratories, false-flag terrorism, planned-wars, planned financial-collapses, secret-societies, etc, etc. The secrets don't seem to be so secret. I keep thinking that if I were somehow at the center of all this madness -- I would keep all of the secret-stuff on the inside of the Moon -- and have everyone connected with the secret-stuff stay on the Moon -- and never, ever come back to Earth. There wouldn't be that special jet from Vegas to Area 51 for the workers. There wouldn't be an Area 51 or Dulce or ??? It would all be on the Moon -- except for the NORAD and military stuff -- or bases for protecting our fine politicians in time of nuclear-war. (I support much greater openness -- but if I were one of the 'bad-guys' connected with any 'nasty black projects' -- I might be a lot more secretive than the level of secrecy seen since World War II). The absurdies and holes in the 'system' are everywhere. Once again, I don't wish to burn my bridges with the Dracs and Greys (or ????) -- but I am completely against 'human-abuse'. If there were ancient wrongs committed by humanity and/or divinity -- this should be revealed in a tactful manner -- and dealt-with properly and openly -- or so it seems to me. I simply wish for this solar system to become a paradise for whoever lives here. I am presently a human-being -- so I am biased toward humans -- but if I knew the 'rest of the story' I might feel differently. I envision a mostly human solar system -- with constructive interaction with non-hostile and non-sinister other-than-humans. I guess I lean toward segregation, rather than integration. Could you imagine 'Greys v Board of Education' regarding forced bussing???!!! Imagine a cigar-shaped craft in school-bus yellow -- with little grey students looking out the portholes!!!
    magamud wrote:Great line of insight Ortho...
    We are currently in the Devils consciousness.  This consciousness has an hierarchy or lets say Legion that expands many levels of awareness.  This includes all levels of inter/extra terrestrial tech and mind to control.  They lack insight into empathy and morality.  This sociopathy then translates into our own Dark Governmenta  and then does trickle down psychopathy to our very own environment and our very own minds.  This is testament of our current society today.

    The only reason we are not dead or not a borg is the Respect the Devil gives to God.  If the devil does not play by the rules his Empire will be lost.  So the devil has a certain amount of time to degrade gods work, our species and have a good time doing it.  A lot of the current confusion and drama stems from the Devil just making fun of us.  His/her favorite thing is to mock and not necessarily kill.
    gscraig wrote:These responses are hilarious. Unfortunately, typical to a certain extent.

    Keeping secrets and workers on the moon will only heighten was exist today. People will long wonder, why are we using the moon for such things?  Why are we not making it accessible to all and exactly who owns the moon on this planet to assume the right to harbor secrets there to begin with? Please, enough with the United Solar System, etc in almost every response you have. It tends to make a mockery of legitimate subject matter. Regardless how well thought out the response. LOL, you don't want to burn bridges with the Dracs or Greys. WOW!

    Now, to this Satan and God baffoonery. First of all I grew up in a church, sang in its choir, and my family is very religious. However, I've done my homework over the years and have seen, experienced and can do some things that unequivocally says DON'T BELIEVE IN THESE WRITINGS...not in it's entirety. With that said, there are hundreds of pages that was removed from the Bible and a few other books, yet we humans embrace it's forever conflicting messages. The truth does not conflict, remember that.

    We are worshiping an ALL LOVING, PEACEFUL BEING that has killed, punished, tortured, threatened humanity and has expressed being envious. Tell us not to fear, but yet suggest we fear his name. This of course added to this same superior error free being VIOLATING ITS OWN COMMANDMENTS. However, we never thought that we are actually WORSHIPING that which you believe you are standing against? There are enough pieces. Reposition them, free your thinking and put the puzzle together to where the pieces will start to fit.
    Thank-you, magamud. There really does seem to be a rule-book which guides this madness, in a sick sort of way. I keep thinking about all of this in terms of Punishment/Payment/Extermination. This madness seems to be very-dark and very-ancient. I feel as if I am attempting to swim upstream in some very fast and rocky rapids -- to 'save the world' in some way, shape, or form. I am presently watching the entire third-season of 'Battlestar Galactica' -- and it offers many insights with it's Political and Theological Science-Fiction. I just watched Madame President Roslin's 'Human Pardon Speech'. Interesting. Recently, someone who reminded me of Gaius Baltar, told me to keep using my imagination! We had just spoken of the future potentially-disruptive effects of high-technology upon the human-race. Very Interesting!

    I notice that a lot of my more questionable and risque images are mysteriously vanishing. Is this just my imagination?? Once again, this thread is intended to make you think -- rather than necessarily reflecting my moral-fiber -- or lack thereof. I present images and concepts which I don't necessarily approve of. I'm more conservative, straight-laced, and boring than you think. On the other hand -- I know what I like!!!
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    One Big Fracking-Happy Family!!
    Floyd wrote:
    burgundia wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:What worries me is spying on perceived political and religious enemies -- passing judgment -- and then imprisoning, sterilizing, or exterminating them. This thing is a slippery-slope...
    yes, this is a real danger.
    Exactly but it its not just about exterminating poltical and religious enemies but also the vulnerable and those not seen as being up to the required human standard. Once you start where do you stop?
    On the one hand, it is important to have strong and consistent leadership in managing a problematic civilization -- but the danger is that if and when the 'Atlas-like' leadership becomes more problematic than the troubled civilization -- no one is then able to do a damn thing about it. Regarding the madness of the past fifty-years -- don't just crucify the middle-men, errand-boys, and hit-men -- while allowing the Godfather and/or Godmother to go scott-free. However, do we really wish to place the prisoners in charge of their own prison??? This is a two-edged sword. Do bad-people require bad-leaders??? I think this thing might be unimaginably complex and upsetting -- which is probably why the truth keeps getting swept under the rug. I don't think there is a clean and neat solution to this madness. I keep saying that 'Disclosure' will be much worse than we imagine -- or can imagine. I think I'd 'like' to see a series of very-high-quality motion-pictures telling the absolutely true story of at least the past one-million years of galactic-history -- with no bullshit whatsoever. I have no idea if and when we might be 'ready' for such a revolting development -- but I suspect that this will eventually occur. Perhaps then Humanity will learn just how much it really cost to Keep Light on Earth -- and (attempt to?) Save the Human Race. BTW -- I just saw one of those streaming white-lights pass between me and the monitor. It's probably my 'Monitor' aka 'Watcher' aka 'Guardian Angel' aka 'Recording Angel'. I'd 'like' to see my 'Reincarnational X-File in Orion'!!!! OMG!!!! The horror!!!!

    I really should just study university-level Astronomy, Egyptology, Jesus-Studies, and Sacred Classical Music -- leaving most of the madness behind. I really should just move on. Unfortunately, I am VERY pessimistic regarding the immediate future -- so much so that I just placed a 'Hail-Mary' sell-order (equivalent of buy-to-cover) on my very small short-stock-index position. I don't suggest that others do the same -- and I certainly do not have inside information. I just keep thinking about everything we discuss within this web-site -- and it deeply worries me. One word of warning -- if everything goes to hell -- all the securities and money might just 'disappear'. All of us might be screwed financially -- even the insiders and big-shots -- and I doubt that there are any truly safe-places -- not even a DUMB in BF-EGYPT. I still find it very interesting that 'W' spoke of watching the first plane hit -- before going inside the classroom. I really think he did watch the first plane hit the North Tower -- in real-time. He didn't seem surprised when he was told of the second plane hitting the South Tower. 'They' didn't fly into 'Emergency Procedure Mode'. That really got my goat. 'They' had to have known in advance -- but I tend to doubt that there was much 'they' could do about it. 'They' seem to merely be 'hired-hands'. 'Elizabeth Nelson', who Bill Ryan spoke to about 9/11 -- said there was a live-feed (at a military-facility) of the first plane hitting the tower -- if I'm not mistaken. Didn't Bill and/or Kerry speak to someone who described a 'remote-controlled' plane used in 9/11?? I hope I'm getting this right. I try not to think about 9/11 any more. I moved on -- to worrying about the Controlled-Demolition of the Human-Race. "Do the Orders Still Stand??" I continue to 'like' listening to people like John Lear. I'm not particularly fearful or angry. I just want to understand what's been going on -- help solve the problems -- and move on. Save the Drama for Your Mama. Can you imagine talking privately to a roomful of 'John Lears'???!!! OMG!!!

    Consider who the Pre-Egyptian Isis, Ra, Moses, and Aaron might've been -- reincarnationally. Who might they have been Post-Egypt -- reincarnationally?? Have we been dealing with Isis, Ra, Moses, and Aaron for thousands of years?? Is Isis most closely associated with Draconian-Reptilians?? Is Ra mostly closely associated with Grey-Reptilians?? Were Moses and Aaron really Human Front-Men for an 'other-than-human' Isis and Ra?? Was Isis the Goddess of Egypt?? Was Ra the Old Testament God of the Desert?? Is there an 'East of Eden' parallel?? Is there a 'Contact' parallel?? Take a look at Numbers 16 (below in blue) regarding Old Testament Governance. How might all of this relate to the hypothetical Orion-Sirius-Atlantean-Babylonian-Egyptian-Grecian-Roman-British-American Empire?? What Would Serqet Say?? What if Moses and Aaron were actually incarnated by Ra and Isis -- or some variation on that general theme??






    I lean toward the Orion ET thing -- yet I realize that the lies are rampant. Whoever is behind whatever is going on -- seems to not wish to be exposed. However, some sort of an exposure seems to be occurring. Whether this will continue, and whether exposure and disclosure will make things better (or worse) remains to be seen. I obviously wish to know what's really going on -- yet I'm not in a big hurry to find out -- and I am very apprehensive regarding exposed and cornered 'aliens'. Things might get REALLY nasty. Regardless of whether there are aliens or not, studying the Nazi phenomenon is probably a very necessary and very unpleasant part of esoteric and conspiracy research. I need to just chew what I've already bitten-off -- which is way too much. I am so burned-out and exhausted that I can barely function these days. I feel as if I'm fighting an unseen battle 24/7 with a very powerful empire -- which I suspect is a mixture of good and evil. I'm probably more open and complimentary than I should be -- but that's just the way I am. I try to see the good in everyone and everything -- even when it doesn't exist. Hope springs eternal.

    Consider placing the Entire Bible within the context of a Timeless Ancient Egypt. Consider placing Everything We Discuss within the context of a Timeless Ancient Egypt. Make sure that this fantasy includes high-technology and space-travel. Do you see what I'm saying?? This would basically be "Stargate on Steroids" or "East of Gizeh-Intelligence"!!!! What if Michael-Jesus wrote the Entire Bible?? Note the underlying structure and elegance in the Bible -- even when it is describing the most horrific and unethical behavior. Also, consider the Hidden-Egyptology. Please study the Bible -- even if you are an Atheist or an Agnostic. Some have even suggested reading the Bible -- without really thinking about it!! But think about it!! What if the underlying spirituality is of great value -- even if what one is reading seems to not make much sense??!! Once again, I am suggesting extensive Bible-Study -- rather than Doctrinal-Orthodoxy. Dr. Walter Martin once suggested to his Sunday-School Class the concept of Biblical-Studies without trying to cram religion down the throats of others. I don't think I've gotten everything right -- or that I've figured everything out -- but please study this thread (and all links and references) carefully and prayerfully. Work Hard. Play Hard. Pray Hard. Why is This So Hard??? Can a devotional prayer-life take the form of Political and Theological Science-Fiction (rather than begging for things God already knows that we want or need?) Should we beg and plead for forgiveness -- or should we simply do what Jesus said to do??

    When I'm watching 'Battlestar Galactica' I keep thinking that it is depicting an Elite Israeli Secret Space Program -- if you know what I mean??!! I say this in a complimentary manner. There is something cool about Middle-Eastern Intrigue -- but I think something is very wrong and troubled in this neck of the desert. Once again, I am trying to identify with the secret solar system realm -- without making a big-deal about it. In this incarnation, at least, I am on the side of Humanity -- yet I do not wish to burn my bridges with Other-Than-Human Races. Is this an Impossible Dream??? I get the feeling that a lot of hidden things are in the process of being revealed -- whether we like it or not -- and whether this makes things better or not. I will continue to Positively-Reinforce the Way Things Are. I tried to be Friendly and Neutral when dealing with one who claimed to be an Ancient Egyptian Deity -- although I once joked about bringing my Bible, and yelling at them!!! But if I had done that, I wouldn't have been able to talk to them any more!! This particular Egyptian Deity was Angry and Jealous. I even asked them if they were 'God'??!! They answered 'No' -- but that they were 'Very Close to God'. Interesting. Nuff Said.

    To those in the know -- if I have done bad things historically and reincarnationally -- please carefully consider the context and circumstances -- before you crucify me, or damn me to hell. The thing that really frightens me is that just about everyone seems to be capable of doing just about anything under the right or wrong circumstances. This is why I am so concerned about having a proper solar governmental system -- with strong, but accountable, leadership -- and a representative-republic without mob-rule. How do we prevent the 'Sovereignty of God' from degenerating into 'Just Following Orders'??? Should we have a Theocracy? Should we have a Democracy? Should we have a Theocratic-Democracy? Is the Roman-System Wrong -- or has it simply been Run Wrong??? Sorry if that offends, but these types of questions really need to be asked...

    I keep getting the sinking feeling that by trying to make things better -- going the extra mile -- thinking outside the box -- trying to make everyone consider all the possibilities -- that I am cooking my own goose (lifetime after lifetime?) -- and that I will be an eternally dead duck -- to satisfy Divine-Justice -- and to assure an unbroken Continuity of Galactic Governance. Better Might Not Be Better. I feel a bit like 'Ellie' in 'Contact' (where the honest answer is the wrong answer). The truly ethical and righteous might not inherit the Earth after all. I feel very depressed and hopeless, at this point. Everything seems so utterly pointless, so often. When I have looked out the window of high-flying airliners, at the flickering lights of some of the great cities of the world -- we seem to be nothing more than fluttering gnats -- in the great galactic scheme of things.

    I'm continuing to very passively look at Canon Law, the Latin Mass, the 1928 'Book of Common Prayer', the 1898 'Desire of Ages', the 'Federalist Papers', and Sacred Classical Music -- with a special emphasis on an integration of Responsibility-Based International-Interplanetary-Intergalactic Ethics, Law, Government, Religion (mostly ceremonial), and Business -- into some sort of a Canon Law Format -- as a 'Solar System Owners and Operators Manual'. Again, I realize that this type of thing is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS -- yet what are the reasonable alternatives. Is 'Seventh-Day Anglican' a useful term in a search for a useable-future?? A high-ranking Episcopalian once told a fellow clergyperson to 'never argue with an SDA'!! I took that as both a compliment and a rebuke!! What Would Vala Mal Doran Say???
    Carol wrote:
    Floyd wrote:
    Carol wrote:Recently, I was reading again about how others wish to manipulate the world population into a one-world religion utilizing a staged event that supposed would involve the 2nd coming of Christ.  Then I read where one contactee suggested the Bible was written by the illuminate who may now be manipulating events to fulfill their agenda for a one-world government and one-world religion.  If successful - this is a pickle on multiple levels for those who cling to their beliefs and don't wish to change.  And a one-world religion could also be a form of mind-control enslavement.  It's easy enough to see how some who wish to control others would push for a one-world religion.  Hence, my subsequent abandonment of all religions.  I just can't excited about rituals any more other then weddings.  Those are fun.
    I think the idea that a one world religion is being touted is mostly based on flimsy foundations and third rate poorly researched youtube videos posted by non academics and religious zealots. To look for the answers to that we have to examine closely, the religions and beliefs where this 'new religion' is allegedly being fermented. The New Age.

    Now, the first thing to understand is that there is no such thing as a New Age Religion.

    A good place to start is with Hinduism. people are under the misconception that Hinduism is one religion when it is not. In fact it is far from it. The systems that are grouped under, 'the religions of the Indus' can vary between atheism,(Samkya)devotional deism (various) and almost Buddhism (Advaita Vedanta)It is an error to perceive of Hinduism as being one religion just as it is an error to view the 'New Age Movement as being one cohesive religion with an agenda.

    Like Hinduism, the 'New Age Movement' is an umbrella term for many differing beliefs ranging from religious syncreticism,Sufism,Spiritualist,occultism, pagan religions,witchcraft,UFO cults,alienism,ascensionism,apocalyptic religions,psychological and self improvement cults and so on. It is often the case that many of these belief systems are opposed and even fractious and more often than not they disagree on a great many thing.

    It would be useful to remember that there has been a large amount of negative propaganda imitated against groups like the Theosophical society and Alice Bailey's organisation by the catholic church and Judeo Christian religion in general. The reason for that is because of the criticisms by such groups on organised religion and the anthropomorphism of Judaism and Christianity coupled with their efforts to introduce the spiritual and philosophical systems of Eastern schools into western consciousness.

    The return of the Christ, messiah or world teacher comes not only from theosophical traditions but also from Shia Islam, some Buddhist schools, christianity and Judaism. It should be noted that Alice Baileys Lucis trust is denounced by some theosophiphical groups who themselves suffered humiliation over the introduction of Krishnamurti as the World Teacher. So you see there is really not one group saying the same thing. It is practically non existent and to such otherwise is incorrect.

    The reality of the situation is the influence of Theosophical Societies and the Lucis Trust is waning. Their membership is elderly and the funds which once used to roll in from wealthy female benefactors have dried up. I understand that the Lucis Trust and its elderly membership are in financial crisis and that outdated esoteric societies have now been replaced by modern groups ranging from UFO Cults (adamski, Pelley. Williamson, Aetherius, Clow Starr etc) to the slick self empowerment psychological and religious groups and writers that have taken their Theosophical influences and developed their own themes, not to mention the countless ascended master groups all of whom are denounced by the TS such as the right wing fronts of Ballards I AM Movement and Claire Prophet's Buddha UFO esoteric Christianity mish mash, CUT

    For me alienist religions are just as daft as Baileys esoteric rambling. There are many parallels between channelers, contactees, aliens and masters. I would go as far to say its the same thing, different archetypes. None of it is particularly useful.

    So there is no new age movement and they are bickering with each other, one master said this, one alien said that ad infinitum, pretty much like main stream religions.
    On closer examination you will find that whilst much of the above groups are self indulgent and deeply flawed there is also a lot of propaganda built up against them because they go against the strand of Judeo Christianity. Some of the groups, neath the new age umbrella deserve all the criticism they get,and they involve the far right groups who put bastardised theosophy,arisophy,armenism,ufoism,alienism,fascism and pseudo scientific theories on race into a big bowl and give it a big stir. They dont take to criticism kindly either.

    Bluebeam is nonsense and is most definitely a hoax along with the myriad XXXX and bull stories prevalent over the internet and that have been put out over the decades.

    It is no different from mainstream religion Carol. Entrenching oneself in any belief system is the first mistake one can make.

    There is just so much BS about.

    Like the concrete spaceship for example. It did bring the exploration team lots of publicity though. Job done.
    Sorry Floyd but you built your hypothesis on facts that are false.  Project Blue Beam technology exists.  What is done with it is anyone's guess.

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    I'm also aware that Project BlueBook existed because the person who was working on that articular Project vacationed at my parents place.  In addition, my parents were witness to a UFO which hovered over the lake at night for an hour - right next to their home.  It wasn't just some fly by sighting but instead an extended stay.

    Perhaps it would be worth your while to consider that some of us have life experience that exceeds your parameters of knowledge.  

    I'm currently not wedded to any particular belief system (religious or otherwise other then thinking the 10 Commandments are worth following - along with the US Constitution), which is why I said I've abandoned religion as it just doesn't work for me.  However, I prefer the scientific method when it comes to spiritual growth and development, which was my original attraction to, and practice of Astanga Yoga before you were even born.  But that's another story.  And due to my own long history and personal spiritual experience with Christ, I accept Christ as a fundamental part of my personal reality.

    Furthermore, having spent quite a bit of time with a variety of spiritual masters the best suggestion out there I can recommend is don't knock it until you've tried it.

    And from all the Buddhists that I know (including family members) none of them view the Buddha as a savior.  Instead they view him as a spiritual teacher with a scientific method, if followed, allowed practitioners to have similar spiritual 'frequency' experiences.  Buddhism is a peaceful way of life as is Sant Mat.  The goal is to still the monkey mind so that one can experience spiritual enlightenment on ones own through personal effort.
    I am somewhat fundamentalist and somewhat fickle. Just settling on a system (political and/or religious) and then circling the wagons in preparation for a fight -- really doesn't cut it with me. I'm leaning toward Political and Theological Science-Fiction as a sort of Neo Situation Ethics. What Would Joseph Fletcher and James Pike Say??? The Decalogue in the context of the Pentateuch, the Gospels, and the Epistles -- is an interesting study. I'm just going to keep modeling solar system governance -- as a way of dealing with all of this. My answers are both simple and complex. I'm trying to do more research, and less posting -- but I just keep wandering and rambling.

    Should I stay?? Should I go?? Very few are viewing this thread -- and even fewer are speaking with me within this thread. I've been feeling for years that I'm wasting my time with my internet activities. I'm very conflicted about what I should do with this madness. I really don't wish to resist the 'Evil Empire' all by myself -- with bare fists. Is resistance truly futile?? I've been a bit mystified by the coming and going on a couple of web-sites. There seems to be great potential for a proper internet conversation -- but so far, this has not occurred. In fact, it's been somewhat of an annoying and stupid game of drama, personalities, ignoring, shunning, attacking, etc, etc -- rather than a consistent and ongoing 'royal-model high-road' conversation and/or debate. I've put something like this together in my imagination -- but so far, this hasn't happened in 'real-life'.

    Here is another exciting Sherry Shriner podcast!! http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2012/06/26/monday-night-with-sherry-shriner I don't give glowing endorsements of Sherry or Orgone because I just don't know enough to do so. However, I listen to nearly every episode. I have no idea how much of it is true -- but I am trying to learn how to think about 'insider' type subjects -- while being a complete 'outsider' and a completely ignorant fool. I wish to expose myself to upsetting information -- without getting upset. I wish to learn to take anything and everything in stride. This sort of thing also contributes to my stated purpose of providing all of us with a unique strain of Political and Theological Science-Fiction. Take this as entertainment, if you will -- or take it more seriously, if you choose -- but take all of this with a Sea of Salt.

    One more thing. Regarding Solar System Governance -- How Bad is Too Bad -- and How Good is Too Good?? I asked the Ancient Egyptian Deity 'How Good is Too Good??' -- and they didn't have an answer -- other than that they didn't think ANYONE was good!!! I tended to agree -- right or wrong. But really, what is the proper balance between Idealism and Pragmatism??? Now, perhaps I need to just shut-up and move in a completely different direction. Perhaps I should just write a book titled "Shut-Up!!!" (Isn't there way too much whining and complaining???) Perhaps I really do need to stop -- even though I have been rather low-key about all of this madness. Again, I am very sorry if I have harmed or offended anyone in any way. I'm really not like this in 'real-life'. I'm not that kind of guy!!! This has been fun!!! Let's do it again sometime!!! Namaste and Godspeed!!!



    The Book of Numbers, Chapter 16 (KJV): 1 Now Korah, the son of Izhar, the son of Kohath, the son of Levi, and Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab, and On, the son of Peleth, sons of Reuben, took men: 2 And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown:3 And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?4 And when Moses heard it, he fell upon his face:5 And he spake unto Korah and unto all his company, saying , Even to morrow the LORD will shew who are his, and who is holy; and will cause him to come near unto him: even him whom he hath chosen will he cause to come near unto him. 6 This do ; Take you censers, Korah, and all his company;7 And put fire therein, and put incense in them before the LORD to morrow: and it shall be that the man whom the LORD doth choose , he shall be holy: ye take too much upon you, ye sons of Levi.8 And Moses said unto Korah, Hear , I pray you, ye sons of Levi:9 Seemeth it but a small thing unto you, that the God of Israel hath separated you from the congregation of Israel, to bring you near to himself to do the service of the tabernacle of the LORD, and to stand before the congregation to minister unto them? 10 And he hath brought thee near to him, and all thy brethren the sons of Levi with thee: and seek ye the priesthood also? 11 For which cause both thou and all thy company are gathered together against the LORD: and what is Aaron, that ye murmur against him? 12 And Moses sent to call Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab: which said , We will not come up : 13 Is it a small thing that thou hast brought us up out of a land that floweth with milk and honey, to kill us in the wilderness, except thou make thyself altogether a prince over us? 14Moreover thou hast not brought us into a land that floweth with milk and honey, or given us inheritance of fields and vineyards: wilt thou put out the eyes of these men? we will not come up . 15 And Moses was very wroth , and said unto the LORD, Respect not thou their offering: I have not taken one ass from them, neither have I hurt one of them. 16 And Moses said unto Korah, Be thou and all thy company before the LORD, thou, and they, and Aaron, to morrow:17 And take every man his censer, and put incense in them, and bring ye before the LORD every man his censer, two hundred and fifty censers; thou also, and Aaron, each of you his censer.18 And they took every man his censer, and putfire in them, and laid incense thereon, and stood in the door of the tabernacle of the congregation with Moses and Aaron.19 And Korah gathered all the congregation against them unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto all the congregation.20 And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying , 21Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment.22 And they fell upon their faces, and said , O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin , and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?23 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying , 24Speak unto the congregation, saying , Get you up from about the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram.

    25 And Moses rose up and went unto Dathan and Abiram; and the elders of Israel followed him.26 And he spake unto the congregation, saying , Depart , I pray you, from the tents of these wicked men, and touch nothing of theirs, lest ye be consumed in all their sins.27 So they gat up from the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram, on every side: and Dathan and Abiram came out , and stood in the door of their tents, and their wives, and their sons, and their little children.28 And Moses said , Hereby ye shall know that the LORD hath sent me to do all these works; for I have not done them of mine own mind.29 If these men die the common death of all men, or if they be visited after the visitation of all men; then the LORD hath not sent me. 30 But if the LORD make a new thing, and the earth open her mouth, and swallow them up , with all that appertain unto them, and they go down quick into the pit; then ye shall understand that these men have provoked the LORD.31 And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words, that the ground clave asunder that was under them: 32 And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up , and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods.33 They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation.34 And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them: for they said , Lest the earth swallow us up also. 35 And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense.36 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying , 37Speak unto Eleazar the son of Aaron the priest, that he take up the censers out of the burning, and scatter thou the fire yonder; for they are hallowed . 38 The censers of these sinners against their own souls, let them make them broad plates for a covering of the altar: for they offered them before the LORD, therefore they are hallowed : and they shall be a sign unto the children of Israel.39 And Eleazar the priest took the brasen censers, wherewith they that were burnt had offered ; and they were made broad plates for a covering of the altar:40 To be a memorial unto the children of Israel, that no stranger , which is not of the seed of Aaron, come near to offer incense before the LORD; that he be not as Korah, and as his company: as the LORD said to him by the hand of Moses.41 But on the morrow all the congregation of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and against Aaron, saying , Ye have killed the people of the LORD.42 And it came to pass, when the congregation was gathered against Moses and against Aaron, that they looked toward the tabernacle of the congregation: and, behold, the cloud covered it, and the glory of the LORD appeared . 43 And Moses and Aaron came before the tabernacle of the congregation.44 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying , 45 Get you up from among this congregation, that I may consume them as in a moment. And they fell upon their faces.46 And Moses said unto Aaron, Take a censer, and put fire therein from off the altar, and put on incense, and go quickly unto the congregation, and make an atonement for them: for there is wrath gone out from the LORD; the plague is begun . 47 And Aaron took as Moses commanded , and ran into the midst of the congregation; and, behold, the plague was begun among the people: and he put on incense, and made an atonement for the people.48 And he stood between the dead and the living; and the plague was stayed . 49 Now they that died in the plague were fourteen thousand and seven hundred, beside them that died about the matter of Korah.50 And Aaron returned unto Moses unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation: and the plague was stayed .

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    Post  B.B.Baghor Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:26 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHTdrPL22-Y


    ortho, I hear you clearly, though this may be of not much help, for to me,
    you seem a bit far out... of hearing distance. It's hard to follow you, but you make yourself heard alright!
    It seems your mind is so much in turmoil, that it's hard for you to discern your own voice, not the one
    shouting here. If I may say this, we all long for this....... being heard. For crying out loud!!! As in this performance.

    It's our birthright, to be valued through our lives. In the first seconds of our life, we make ourselves heard, we cannot
    do otherwise. For what it's worth to you, ortho, for truth is.... showing new faces each day, these days, or so it seems,
    maybe that's why what you're looking for seems to be elusive to you, I believe that we need to listen to our own voice
    first, from within. The one who's patiently waiting for you, me, us, to shut up and listen. For a change.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:45 pm

    B.B.Baghor wrote: ortho, I hear you clearly, though this may be of not much help, for to me, you seem a bit far out... of hearing distance. It's hard to follow you, but you make yourself heard alright! It seems your mind is so much in turmoil, that it's hard for you to discern your own voice, not the one shouting here. If I may say this, we all long for this....... being heard. For crying out loud!!! It's our birthright, to be valued through our lives. In the first seconds of our life, we make ourselves heard, we cannot do otherwise. For what it's worth to you, ortho, for truth is.... showing new faces each day, these days, or so it seems, maybe that's why what you're looking for seems to be elusive to you, I believe that we need to listen to our own voice first, from within. The one who's patiently waiting for you, me, us,  to shut up and listen. For a change.
    Thank-you B.B. I have been accused (over and over and over again) of saying the same thing (over and over and over again) and not listening to others (and/or not working with them). When I create a thread which is mostly the work of others -- and mostly not judged by me -- I am told that I'm confused -- lost -- hard to follow -- etc. This is all about Not Getting Fooled Again!!

    BTW -- Imagine a religion consisting of nothing more (or less) than the Bach B-Minor Mass and Job through Isaiah (KJV)!! You know -- just have the entire congregation perform the Bach B-Minor Mass (any day of the week -- or all days of the week) -- and privately read Job through Isaiah (straight-through -- over and over).



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    The burden of Moab. Because in the night Ar of Moab is laid waste , and brought to silence ; because in the night Kir of Moab is laid waste , and brought to silence ;  2 He is gone up to Bajith, and to Dibon, the high places, to weep: Moab shall howl over Nebo, and over Medeba: on all their heads shall be baldness, and every beard cut off .  3 In their streets they shall gird themselves with sackcloth: on the tops of their houses, and in their streets, every one shall howl , weeping abundantly .  4 And Heshbon shall cry , and Elealeh: their voice shall be heard even unto Jahaz: therefore the armed soldiers of Moab shall cry out ; his life shall be grievous unto him.  5 My heart shall cry out for Moab; his fugitives shall flee unto Zoar, an heifer of three years old: for by the mounting up of Luhith with weeping shall they go it up ; for in the way of Horonaim they shall raise up a cry of destruction.  6 For the waters of Nimrim shall be desolate: for the hay is withered away , the grass faileth , there is no green thing.  7 Therefore the abundance they have gotten , and that which they have laid up, shall they carry away to the brook of the willows.  8 For the cry is gone round about the borders of Moab; the howling thereof unto Eglaim, and the howling thereof unto Beerelim.  9 For the waters of Dimon shall be full of blood: for I will bring more upon Dimon, lions upon him that escapeth of Moab, and upon the remnant of the land.

    Send ye the lamb to the ruler of the land from Sela to the wilderness, unto the mount of the daughter of Zion.  2 For it shall be, that, as a wandering bird cast out of the nest, so the daughters of Moab shall be at the fords of Arnon.  3 Take counsel, execute judgment; make thy shadow as the night in the midst of the noonday; hide the outcasts ; bewray not him that wandereth .  4 Let mine outcasts dwell with thee, Moab; be thou a covert to them from the face of the spoiler : for the extortioner is at an end , the spoiler ceaseth , the oppressors are consumed out of the land.  5 And in mercy shall the throne be established : and he shall sit upon it in truth in the tabernacle of David, judging , and seeking judgment, and hasting righteousness.  6 We have heard of the pride of Moab; he is very proud: even of his haughtiness, and his pride, and his wrath: but his lies shall not be so.  7 Therefore shall Moab howl for Moab, every one shall howl : for the foundations of Kirhareseth shall ye mourn ; surely they are stricken.  8 For the fields of Heshbon languish , and the vine of Sibmah: the lords of the heathen have broken down the principal plants thereof, they are come even unto Jazer, they wandered through the wilderness: her branches are stretched out , they are gone over the sea.  9 Therefore I will bewail with the weeping of Jazer the vine of Sibmah: I will water thee with my tears, O Heshbon, and Elealeh: for the shouting for thy summer fruits and for thy harvest is fallen .  10 And gladness is taken away , and joy out of the plentiful field; and in the vineyards there shall be no singing , neither shall there be shouting : the treaders shall tread out no wine in their presses; I have made their vintage shouting to cease .  11 Wherefore my bowels shall sound like an harp for Moab, and mine inward parts for Kirharesh.  12 And it shall come to pass, when it is seen that Moab is weary on the high place, that he shall come to his sanctuary to pray ; but he shall not prevail .  13 This is the word that the LORD hath spoken concerning Moab since that time.  14 But now the LORD hath spoken , saying , Within three years, as the years of an hireling, and the glory of Moab shall be contemned , with all that great multitude; and the remnant shall be very small and feeble .

    The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.  2 The cities of Aroer are forsaken : they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down , and none shall make them afraid .  3 The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria: they shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the LORD of hosts.  4 And in that day it shall come to pass, that the glory of Jacob shall be made thin , and the fatness of his flesh shall wax lean .  5 And it shall be as when the harvestman gathereth the corn, and reapeth the ears with his arm; and it shall be as he that gathereth ears in the valley of Rephaim.  6 Yet gleaning grapes shall be left in it, as the shaking of an olive tree, two or three berries in the top of the uppermost bough, four or five in the outmost fruitful branches thereof, saith the LORD God of Israel.  7 At that day shall a man look to his Maker , and his eyes shall have respect to the Holy One of Israel.  8 And he shall not look to the altars, the work of his hands, neither shall respect that which his fingers have made , either the groves, or the images.  9 In that day shall his strong cities be as a forsaken bough, and an uppermost branch, which they left because of the children of Israel: and there shall be desolation.  10 Because thou hast forgotten the God of thy salvation, and hast not been mindful of the rock of thy strength, therefore shalt thou plant pleasant plants, and shalt set it with strange slips:  11 In the day shalt thou make thy plant to grow , and in the morning shalt thou make thy seed to flourish : but the harvest shall be a heap in the day of grief and of desperate sorrow.  12 Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!  13 The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.  14 And behold at eveningtide  trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.

    Woe to the land shadowing with wings, which is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia:  2 That sendeth ambassadors by the sea, even in vessels of bulrushes upon the waters, saying, Go , ye swift messengers, to a nation scattered and peeled , to a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden down, whose land the rivers have spoiled !  3 All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign on the mountains; and when he bloweth a trumpet, hear ye.  4 For so the LORD said unto me, I will take my rest , and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest.  5 For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect , and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall both cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks, and take away and cut down the branches.  6 They shall be left together unto the fowls of the mountains, and to the beasts of the earth: and the fowls shall summer upon them, and all the beasts of the earth shall winter upon them.  7 In that time shall the present be brought unto the LORD of hosts of a people scattered and peeled , and from a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden under foot, whose land the rivers have spoiled , to the place of the name of the LORD of hosts, the mount Zion.

    The burden of Egypt. Behold, the LORD rideth upon a swift cloud, and shall come into Egypt: and the idols of Egypt shall be moved at his presence, and the heart of Egypt shall melt in the midst of it.  2 And I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother, and every one against his neighbour; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom.  3 And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards.  4 And the Egyptians will I give over into the hand of a cruel lord; and a fierce king shall rule over them, saith the Lord, the LORD of hosts.  5 And the waters shall fail from the sea, and the river shall be wasted and dried up .  6 And they shall turn the rivers far away ; and the brooks of defence shall be emptied and dried up : the reeds and flags shall wither .  7 The paper reeds by the brooks, by the mouth of the brooks, and every thing sown by the brooks, shall wither , be driven away , and be no more.  8 The fishers also shall mourn , and all they that cast angle into the brooks shall lament , and they that spread nets upon the waters shall languish .  9 Moreover they that work in fine flax, and they that weave networks, shall be confounded .  10 And they shall be broken in the purposes thereof, all that make sluices and ponds for fish.  11 Surely the princes of Zoan are fools, the counsel of the wise counsellors of Pharaoh is become brutish : how say ye unto Pharaoh, I am the son of the wise, the son of ancient kings?  12 Where are they? where are thy wise men? and let them tell thee now, and let them know what the LORD of hosts hath purposed upon Egypt.  13 The princes of Zoan are become fools , the princes of Noph are deceived ; they have also seduced Egypt, even they that are the stay of the tribes thereof.  14 The LORD hath mingled a perverse spirit in the midst thereof: and they have caused Egypt to err in every work thereof, as a drunken man staggereth in his vomit.  15 Neither shall there be any work for Egypt, which the head or tail, branch or rush, may do .  16 In that day shall Egypt be like unto women: and it shall be afraid and fear because of the shaking of the hand of the LORD of hosts, which he shaketh over it.  17 And the land of Judah shall be a terror unto Egypt, every one that maketh mention thereof shall be afraid in himself, because of the counsel of the LORD of hosts, which he hath determined against it.  18 In that day shall five cities in the land of Egypt speak the language of Canaan, and swear to the LORD of hosts; one shall be called , The city of destruction.  19 In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD.  20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors , and he shall send them a saviour , and a great one, and he shall deliver them.  21 And the LORD shall be known to Egypt, and the Egyptians shall know the LORD in that day, and shall do sacrifice and oblation; yea, they shall vow a vow unto the LORD, and perform it.  22 And the LORD shall smite Egypt: he shall smite and heal it: and they shall return even to the LORD, and he shall be intreated of them, and shall heal them.  23 In that day shall there be a highway out of Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian shall come into Egypt, and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians shall serve with the Assyrians.  24 In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land:  25 Whom the LORD of hosts shall bless , saying , Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance.

    In the year that Tartan came unto Ashdod, (when Sargon the king of Assyria sent him,) and fought against Ashdod, and took it;  2 At the same time spake the LORD by Isaiah the son of Amoz, saying , Go and loose the sackcloth from off thy loins, and put off thy shoe from thy foot. And he did so , walking naked and barefoot.  3 And the LORD said , Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia;  4 So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered , to the shame of Egypt.  5 And they shall be afraid and ashamed of Ethiopia their expectation, and of Egypt their glory.  6 And the inhabitant of this isle shall say in that day, Behold, such is our expectation, whither we flee for help to be delivered from the king of Assyria: and how shall we escape?

    The burden of the desert of the sea. As whirlwinds in the south pass through; so it cometh from the desert, from a terrible land.  2 A grievous vision is declared unto me; the treacherous dealer dealeth treacherously , and the spoiler spoileth . Go up , O Elam: besiege , O Media; all the sighing thereof have I made to cease .  3 Therefore are my loins filled with pain: pangs have taken hold upon me, as the pangs of a woman that travaileth : I was bowed down at the hearing of it; I was dismayed at the seeing of it.  4 My heart panted , fearfulness affrighted me: the night of my pleasure hath he turned into fear unto me.  5 Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat , drink : arise , ye princes, and anoint the shield.  6 For thus hath the Lord said unto me, Go , set a watchman , let him declare what he seeth .  7 And he saw a chariot with a couple of horsemen, a chariot of asses, and a chariot of camels; and he hearkened diligently with much heed:  8 And he cried , A lion: My lord, I stand continually upon the watchtower in the daytime, and I am set in my ward whole nights:  9 And, behold, here cometh a chariot of men, with a couple of horsemen. And he answered and said , Babylon is fallen , is fallen ; and all the graven images of her gods he hath broken unto the ground.  10 O my threshing, and the corn of my floor: that which I have heard of the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, have I declared unto you.  11 The burden of Dumah. He calleth to me out of Seir, Watchman , what of the night? Watchman , what of the night?  12 The watchman said , The morning cometh , and also the night: if ye will enquire , enquire ye: return , come .  13 The burden upon Arabia. In the forest in Arabia shall ye lodge , O ye travelling companies of Dedanim.  14 The inhabitants of the land of Tema brought water to him that was thirsty, they prevented with their bread him that fled .  15 For they fled from the swords, from the drawn sword, and from the bent bow, and from the grievousness of war.  16 For thus hath the Lord said unto me, Within a year, according to the years of an hireling, and all the glory of Kedar shall fail :  17 And the residue of the number of archers, the mighty men of the children of Kedar, shall be diminished : for the LORD God of Israel hath spoken it.

    The burden of the valley of vision. What aileth thee now, that thou art wholly gone up to the housetops?  2 Thou that art full of stirs, a tumultuous city, a joyous city: thy slain men are not slain with the sword, nor dead in battle.  3 All thy rulers are fled together, they are bound by the archers: all that are found in thee are bound together, which have fled from far.  4 Therefore said I, Look away from me; I will weep bitterly , labour not to comfort me, because of the spoiling of the daughter of my people.  5 For it is a day of trouble, and of treading down, and of perplexity by the Lord GOD of hosts in the valley of vision, breaking down the walls, and of crying to the mountains.  6 And Elam bare the quiver with chariots of men and horsemen, and Kir uncovered the shield.  7 And it shall come to pass, that thy choicest valleys shall be full of chariots, and the horsemen shall set themselves in array at the gate.  8 And he discovered the covering of Judah, and thou didst look in that day to the armour of the house of the forest.  9 Ye have seen also the breaches of the city of David, that they are many : and ye gathered together the waters of the lower pool.  10 And ye have numbered the houses of Jerusalem, and the houses have ye broken down to fortify the wall.  11 Ye made also a ditch between the two walls for the water of the old pool: but ye have not looked unto the maker thereof, neither had respect unto him that fashioned it long ago.  12 And in that day did the Lord GOD of hosts call to weeping, and to mourning, and to baldness, and to girding with sackcloth:  13 And behold joy and gladness, slaying oxen, and killing sheep, eating flesh, and drinking wine: let us eat and drink ; for to morrow we shall die .  14 And it was revealed in mine ears by the LORD of hosts, Surely this iniquity shall not be purged from you till ye die , saith the Lord GOD of hosts.  15 Thus saith the Lord GOD of hosts, Go , get thee unto this treasurer , even unto Shebna, which is over the house, and say,  16 What hast thou here? and whom hast thou here, that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock?  17 Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee.  18 He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large  country: there shalt thou die , and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house.  19 And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down .  20 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will call my servant Eliakim the son of Hilkiah:  21 And I will clothe him with thy robe, and strengthen him with thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand: and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah.  22 And the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder; so he shall open , and none shall shut ; and he shall shut , and none shall open .  23 And I will fasten him as a nail in a sure place; and he shall be for a glorious throne to his father's house.  24 And they shall hang upon him all the glory of his father's house, the offspring and the issue, all vessels of small quantity, from the vessels of cups, even to all the vessels of flagons.  25 In that day, saith the LORD of hosts, shall the nail that is fastened in the sure place be removed , and be cut down , and fall ; and the burden that was upon it shall be cut off : for the LORD hath spoken it.

    The burden of Tyre. Howl , ye ships of Tarshish; for it is laid waste , so that there is no house, no entering in : from the land of Chittim it is revealed to them.  2 Be still , ye inhabitants of the isle; thou whom the merchants of Zidon, that pass over the sea, have replenished .  3 And by great waters the seed of Sihor, the harvest of the river, is her revenue; and she is a mart of nations.  4 Be thou ashamed , O Zidon: for the sea hath spoken , even the strength of the sea, saying , I travail not, nor bring forth children , neither do I nourish up young men, nor bring up virgins.  5 As at the report concerning Egypt, so shall they be sorely pained at the report of Tyre.  6 Pass ye over to Tarshish; howl , ye inhabitants of the isle.  7 Is this your joyous city, whose antiquity is of ancient days? her own feet shall carry her afar off to sojourn .  8 Who hath taken this counsel against Tyre, the crowning city, whose merchants are princes, whose traffickers are the honourable of the earth?  9 The LORD of hosts hath purposed it, to stain the pride of all glory, and to bring into contempt all the honourable of the earth.  10 Pass through thy land as a river, O daughter of Tarshish: there is no more strength.  11 He stretched out his hand over the sea, he shook the kingdoms: the LORD hath given a commandment against the merchant city, to destroy the strong holds thereof.  12 And he said , Thou shalt no more rejoice , O thou oppressed virgin, daughter of Zidon: arise , pass over to Chittim; there also shalt thou have no rest .  13 Behold the land of the Chaldeans; this people was not, till the Assyrian founded it for them that dwell in the wilderness: they set up the towers thereof, they raised up the palaces thereof; and he brought it to ruin.  14 Howl , ye ships of Tarshish: for your strength is laid waste .  15 And it shall come to pass in that day, that Tyre shall be forgotten seventy years, according to the days of one king: after the end of seventy years shall Tyre sing as an harlot .  16 Take an harp, go about the city, thou harlot that hast been forgotten ; make sweet melody , sing many songs, that thou mayest be remembered .  17 And it shall come to pass after the end of seventy years, that the LORD will visit Tyre, and she shall turn to her hire, and shall commit fornication with all the kingdoms of the world upon the face of the earth.  18 And her merchandise and her hire shall be holiness to the LORD: it shall not be treasured nor laid up ; for her merchandise shall be for them that dwell before the LORD, to eat sufficiently, and for durable clothing.

    Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty , and maketh it waste , and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.  2 And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer , so with the seller ; as with the lender , so with the borrower ; as with the taker of usury , so with the giver of usury to him.  3 The land shall be utterly emptied , and utterly spoiled : for the LORD hath spoken this word.  4 The earth mourneth and fadeth away , the world languisheth and fadeth away , the haughty people of the earth do languish .  5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.  6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate : therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned , and few men left .  7 The new wine mourneth , the vine languisheth , all the merryhearted do sigh .  8 The mirth of tabrets ceaseth , the noise of them that rejoice endeth , the joy of the harp ceaseth .  9 They shall not drink wine with a song; strong drink shall be bitter to them that drink it.  10 The city of confusion is broken down : every house is shut up , that no man may come in .  11 There is a crying for wine in the streets; all joy is darkened , the mirth of the land is gone .  12 In the city is left desolation, and the gate is smitten with destruction.  13 When thus it shall be in the midst of the land among the people, there shall be as the shaking of an olive tree, and as the gleaning grapes when the vintage is done .  14 They shall lift up their voice, they shall sing for the majesty of the LORD, they shall cry aloud from the sea.  15 Wherefore glorify ye the LORD in the fires, even the name of the LORD God of Israel in the isles of the sea.  16 From the uttermost part of the earth have we heard songs, even glory to the righteous. But I said , My leanness, my leanness, woe unto me! the treacherous dealers have dealt treacherously ; yea, the treacherous dealers have dealt very treacherously .  17 Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth.  18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open , and the foundations of the earth do shake .  19 The earth is utterly broken down , the earth is clean dissolved , the earth is moved exceedingly .  20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall , and not rise again .  21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.  22 And they shall be gathered together , as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited .  23 Then the moon shall be confounded , and the sun ashamed , when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.

    O LORD, thou art my God; I will exalt thee, I will praise thy name; for thou hast done wonderful things; thy counsels of old are faithfulness and truth.  2 For thou hast made of a city an heap; of a defenced city a ruin: a palace of strangers to be no city; it shall never be built .  3 Therefore shall the strong people glorify thee, the city of the terrible nations shall fear thee.  4 For thou hast been a strength to the poor, a strength to the needy in his distress, a refuge from the storm, a shadow from the heat, when the blast of the terrible ones is as a storm against the wall.  5 Thou shalt bring down the noise of strangers , as the heat in a dry place; even the heat with the shadow of a cloud: the branch of the terrible ones shall be brought low .  6 And in this mountain shall the LORD of hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow , of wines on the lees well refined .  7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations.  8 He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.  9 And it shall be said in that day, Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him, and he will save us: this is the LORD; we have waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation.  10 For in this mountain shall the hand of the LORD rest , and Moab shall be trodden down under him, even as straw is trodden down for the dunghill   .  11 And he shall spread forth his hands in the midst of them, as he that swimmeth spreadeth forth his hands to swim : and he shall bring down their pride together with the spoils of their hands.  12 And the fortress of the high fort of thy walls shall he bring down , lay low , and bring to the ground, even to the dust.

    In that day shall this song be sung in the land of Judah; We have a strong city; salvation will God appoint for walls and bulwarks.  2 Open ye the gates, that the righteous nation which keepeth the truth may enter in .  3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.  4 Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength:  5 For he bringeth down them that dwell on high; the lofty city, he layeth it low ; he layeth it low , even to the ground; he bringeth it even to the dust.  6 The foot shall tread it down , even the feet of the poor, and the steps of the needy.  7 The way of the just is uprightness: thou, most upright, dost weigh the path of the just.  8 Yea, in the way of thy judgments, O LORD, have we waited for thee; the desire of our soul is to thy name, and to the remembrance of thee.  9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early : for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.  10 Let favour be shewed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly , and will not behold the majesty of the LORD.  11 LORD, when thy hand is lifted up , they will not see : but they shall see , and be ashamed for their envy at the people; yea, the fire of thine enemies shall devour them.  12 LORD, thou wilt ordain peace for us: for thou also hast wrought all our works in us.   13 O LORD our God, other lords beside thee have had dominion over us: but by thee only will we make mention of thy name.  14 They are dead , they shall not live ; they are deceased, they shall not rise : therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish .  15 Thou hast increased the nation, O LORD, thou hast increased the nation: thou art glorified : thou hadst removed it far unto all the ends of the earth.  16 LORD, in trouble have they visited thee, they poured out a prayer when thy chastening was upon them.  17 Like as a woman with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery , is in pain , and crieth out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O LORD.  18 We have been with child , we have been in pain , we have as it were brought forth wind; we have not wrought any deliverance in the earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen .  19 Thy dead men shall live , together with my dead body shall they arise . Awake and sing , ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.  20 Come , my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast .  21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

    In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.  2 In that day sing ye unto her, A vineyard of red wine  .  3 I the LORD do keep it; I will water it every moment: lest any hurt it, I will keep it night and day.  4 Fury is not in me: who would set the briers and thorns against me in battle? I would go through them, I would burn them together.  5 Or let him take hold of my strength, that he may make peace with me; and he shall make peace with me.  6 He shall cause them that come of Jacob to take root : Israel shall blossom and bud , and fill the face of the world with fruit.  7 Hath he smitten him, as he smote those that smote him? or is he slain according to the slaughter of them that are slain by him?  8 In measure, when it shooteth forth , thou wilt debate with it: he stayeth his rough wind in the day of the east wind.  9 By this therefore shall the iniquity of Jacob be purged ; and this is all the fruit to take away his sin; when he maketh all the stones of the altar as chalkstones that are beaten in sunder , the groves and images shall not stand up .  10 Yet the defenced city shall be desolate, and the habitation forsaken , and left like a wilderness: there shall the calf feed , and there shall he lie down , and consume the branches thereof.  11 When the boughs thereof are withered , they shall be broken off : the women come , and set them on fire : for it is a people of no understanding: therefore he that made them will not have mercy on them, and he that formed them will shew them no favour .  12 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall beat off from the channel of the river unto the stream of Egypt, and ye shall be gathered one by one, O ye children of Israel.  13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the great trumpet shall be blown , and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria, and the outcasts in the land of Egypt, and shall worship the LORD in the holy mount at Jerusalem.

    Woe to the crown of pride, to the drunkards of Ephraim, whose glorious beauty is a fading flower, which are on the head of the fat valleys of them that are overcome with wine!  2 Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one, which as a tempest of hail and a destroying storm, as a flood of mighty waters overflowing , shall cast down to the earth with the hand.  3 The crown of pride, the drunkards of Ephraim, shall be trodden under feet:  4 And the glorious beauty, which is on the head of the fat valley, shall be a fading flower, and as the hasty fruit before the summer; which when he that looketh upon it seeth , while it is yet in his hand he eateth it up .  5 In that day shall the LORD of hosts be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty, unto the residue of his people,  6 And for a spirit of judgment to him that sitteth in judgment, and for strength to them that turn the battle to the gate.  7 But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way ; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.  8 For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean.  9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.  10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:  11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.  12 To whom he said , This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest ; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear .  13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go , and fall backward, and be broken , and snared , and taken .  14 Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.  

    Because ye have said , We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge  shall pass through , it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:  16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste .  17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.  18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled , and your agreement with hell shall not stand ; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through , then ye shall be trodden down by it.  19 From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over , by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.  20 For the bed is shorter than that a man can stretch himself on it: and the covering narrower than that he can wrap himself in it.  21 For the LORD shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act.  22 Now therefore be ye not mockers , lest your bands be made strong : for I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth.  23 Give ye ear , and hear my voice; hearken , and hear my speech.  24 Doth the plowman plow all day to sow ? doth he open and break the clods of his ground?  25 When he hath made plain the face thereof, doth he not cast abroad the fitches, and scatter the cummin, and cast in the principal wheat and the appointed barley and the rie in their place?  26 For his God doth instruct him to discretion, and doth teach him.  27 For the fitches are not threshed with a threshing instrument, neither is a cart wheel turned about upon the cummin; but the fitches are beaten out with a staff, and the cummin with a rod.  28 Bread corn is bruised ; because he will not ever be threshing  it, nor break it with the wheel of his cart, nor bruise it with his horsemen.  29 This also cometh forth from the LORD of hosts, which is wonderful in counsel, and excellent in working.

    Woe to Ariel, to Ariel, the city where David dwelt ! add ye year to year; let them kill sacrifices.  2 Yet I will distress Ariel, and there shall be heaviness and sorrow: and it shall be unto me as Ariel.  3 And I will camp against thee round about, and will lay siege against thee with a mount, and I will raise forts against thee.  4 And thou shalt be brought down , and shalt speak out of the ground, and thy speech shall be low out of the dust, and thy voice shall be, as of one that hath a familiar spirit, out of the ground, and thy speech shall whisper out of the dust.  5 Moreover the multitude of thy strangers shall be like small dust, and the multitude of the terrible ones shall be as chaff that passeth away : yea, it shall be at an instant suddenly.  6 Thou shalt be visited of the LORD of hosts with thunder, and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire.  7 And the multitude of all the nations that fight against Ariel, even all that fight against her and her munition, and that distress her, shall be as a dream of a night vision.  8 It shall even be as when an hungry man dreameth , and, behold, he eateth ; but he awaketh , and his soul is empty: or as when a thirsty man dreameth , and, behold, he drinketh ; but he awaketh , and, behold, he is faint, and his soul hath appetite : so shall the multitude of all the nations be, that fight against mount Zion.  9 Stay yourselves, and wonder ; cry ye out , and cry : they are drunken , but not with wine; they stagger , but not with strong drink.  10 For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered .  11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed , which men deliver to one that is learned , saying , Read this, I pray thee: and he saith , I cannot ; for it is sealed :  12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned  , saying , Read this, I pray thee: and he saith , I am not learned .  13 Wherefore the Lord said , Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:  14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish , and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid .  15 Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say , Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?  16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding ?  17 Is it not yet a very little while, and Lebanon shall be turned into a fruitful field, and the fruitful field shall be esteemed as a forest?  18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.  19 The meek also shall increase their joy in the LORD, and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel.  20 For the terrible one is brought to nought , and the scorner is consumed , and all that watch for iniquity are cut off :  21 That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought.  22 Therefore thus saith the LORD, who redeemed Abraham, concerning the house of Jacob, Jacob shall not now be ashamed , neither shall his face now wax pale .  23 But when he seeth his children, the work of mine hands, in the midst of him, they shall sanctify my name, and sanctify the Holy One of Jacob, and shall fear the God of Israel.  24 They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine.

    Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:  2 That walk to go down into Egypt, and have not asked at my mouth; to strengthen themselves in the strength of Pharaoh, and to trust in the shadow of Egypt!  3 Therefore shall the strength of Pharaoh be your shame, and the trust in the shadow of Egypt your confusion.  4 For his princes were at Zoan, and his ambassadors came to Hanes.  5 They were all ashamed of a people that could not profit them, nor be an help nor profit , but a shame, and also a reproach.  6 The burden of the beasts of the south: into the land of trouble and anguish, from whence come the young and old lion, the viper and fiery flying serpent, they will carry their riches upon the shoulders of young asses, and their treasures upon the bunches of camels, to a people that shall not profit them.  7 For the Egyptians shall help in vain, and to no purpose: therefore have I cried concerning this, Their strength is to sit still.  8 Now go , write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever:  9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:  10 Which say to the seers , See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:  11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.  12 Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness , and stay thereon:  13 Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall , swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant.  14 And he shall break it as the breaking of the potters ' vessel that is broken in pieces ; he shall not spare : so that there shall not be found in the bursting of it a sherd to take fire from the hearth , or to take water withal out of the pit.  15 For thus saith the Lord GOD, the Holy One of Israel; In returning and rest shall ye be saved ; in quietness and in confidence shall be your strength: and ye would not.  16 But ye said , No; for we will flee upon horses; therefore shall ye flee : and, We will ride upon the swift; therefore shall they that pursue you be swift.  

    One thousand shall flee at the rebuke of one; at the rebuke of five shall ye flee : till ye be left as a beacon upon the top of a mountain, and as an ensign on an hill.  18 And therefore will the LORD wait , that he may be gracious unto you, and therefore will he be exalted , that he may have mercy upon you: for the LORD is a God of judgment: blessed are all they that wait for him.  19 For the people shall dwell in Zion at Jerusalem: thou shalt weep no more : he will be very gracious unto thee at the voice of thy cry ; when he shall hear it, he will answer thee.  20 And though the Lord give you the bread of adversity, and the water of affliction, yet shall not thy teachers be removed into a corner any more, but thine eyes shall see thy teachers :  21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying , This is the way, walk ye in it , when ye turn to the right hand , and when ye turn to the left .  22 Ye shall defile also the covering of thy graven images of silver, and the ornament of thy molten images of gold: thou shalt cast them away as a menstruous cloth; thou shalt say unto it, Get thee hence .  23 Then shall he give the rain of thy seed, that thou shalt sow the ground withal; and bread of the increase of the earth, and it shall be fat and plenteous: in that day shall thy cattle feed in large pastures.  24 The oxen likewise and the young asses that ear the ground shall eat clean provender, which hath been winnowed with the shovel and with the fan.  25 And there shall be upon every high mountain, and upon every high hill, rivers and streams of waters in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall .  26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.  27 Behold, the name of the LORD cometh from far, burning with his anger, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire:  28 And his breath, as an overflowing stream, shall reach to the midst of the neck, to sift the nations with the sieve of vanity: and there shall be a bridle in the jaws of the people, causing them to err .  29 Ye shall have a song, as in the night when a holy solemnity is kept ; and gladness of heart, as when one goeth with a pipe to come into the mountain of the LORD, to the mighty One of Israel.  30 And the LORD shall cause his glorious voice to be heard , and shall shew the lighting down of his arm, with the indignation of his anger, and with the flame of a devouring fire, with scattering, and tempest, and hailstones .  31 For through the voice of the LORD shall the Assyrian be beaten down , which smote with a rod.  32 And in every place where the grounded staff shall pass, which the LORD shall lay upon him, it shall be with tabrets and harps: and in battles of shaking will he fight with it.  33 For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared ; he hath made it deep and large : the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it.

    Woe to them that go down to Egypt for help; and stay on horses, and trust in chariots, because they are many; and in horsemen, because they are very strong ; but they look not unto the Holy One of Israel, neither seek the LORD!  2 Yet he also is wise, and will bring evil, and will not call back his words: but will arise against the house of the evildoers , and against the help of them that work iniquity.  3 Now the Egyptians are men, and not God; and their horses flesh, and not spirit. When the LORD shall stretch out his hand, both he that helpeth shall fall , and he that is holpen shall fall down , and they all shall fail together.  4 For thus hath the LORD spoken unto me, Like as the lion and the young lion roaring on his prey, when a multitude of shepherds is called forth against him, he will not be afraid of their voice, nor abase himself for the noise of them: so shall the LORD of hosts come down to fight for mount Zion, and for the hill thereof.  5 As birds flying , so will the LORD of hosts defend Jerusalem; defending also he will deliver it; and passing over he will preserve it.  6 Turn ye unto him from whom the children of Israel have deeply revolted.  7 For in that day every man shall cast away his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which your own hands have made unto you for a sin.  8 Then shall the Assyrian fall with the sword, not of a mighty man; and the sword, not of a mean man, shall devour him: but he shall flee from the sword, and his young men shall be discomfited.  9 And he shall pass over to his strong hold for fear, and his princes shall be afraid of the ensign, saith the LORD, whose fire is in Zion, and his furnace in Jerusalem.

    Behold, a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgment.  2 And a man shall be as an hiding place from the wind, and a covert from the tempest; as rivers of water in a dry place, as the shadow of a great rock in a weary land.  3 And the eyes of them that see shall not be dim , and the ears of them that hear shall hearken .  4 The heart also of the rash shall understand knowledge, and the tongue of the stammerers shall be ready to speak plainly.  5 The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said to be bountiful.  6 For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise hypocrisy, and to utter error against the LORD, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail .  7 The instruments also of the churl are evil: he deviseth wicked devices to destroy the poor  with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right.  8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand .  9 Rise up , ye women that are at ease; hear my voice, ye careless daughters; give ear unto my speech.  10 Many days and years shall ye be troubled , ye careless women : for the vintage shall fail , the gathering shall not come .  11 Tremble , ye women that are at ease; be troubled , ye careless ones : strip you, and make you bare , and gird sackcloth upon your loins.  12 They shall lament for the teats, for the pleasant fields, for the fruitful vine.  13 Upon the land of my people shall come up thorns and briers; yea, upon all the houses of joy in the joyous city:  14 Because the palaces shall be forsaken ; the multitude of the city shall be left ; the forts and towers shall be for dens for ever, a joy of wild asses, a pasture of flocks;  15 Until the spirit be poured upon us from on high, and the wilderness be a fruitful field, and the fruitful field be counted for a forest.  16 Then judgment shall dwell in the wilderness, and righteousness remain in the fruitful field.  17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.  18 And my people shall dwell in a peaceable habitation, and in sure dwellings, and in quiet resting places;  19 When it shall hail , coming down on the forest; and the city shall be low in a low place.  20 Blessed are ye that sow beside all waters, that send forth thither the feet of the ox and the ass.

    Woe to thee that spoilest , and thou wast not spoiled ; and dealest treacherously , and they dealt not treacherously with thee! when thou shalt cease to spoil , thou shalt be spoiled ; and when thou shalt make an end to deal treacherously , they shall deal treacherously with thee.  2 O LORD, be gracious unto us; we have waited for thee: be thou their arm every morning, our salvation also in the time of trouble.  3 At the noise of the tumult the people fled ; at the lifting up of thyself the nations were scattered .  4 And your spoil shall be gathered like the gathering of the caterpiller: as the running to and fro of locusts shall he run upon them.  5 The LORD is exalted ; for he dwelleth on high: he hath filled Zion with judgment and righteousness.  6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the LORD is his treasure.  7 Behold, their valiant ones shall cry without: the ambassadors of peace shall weep bitterly.  8 The highways lie waste , the wayfaring man  ceaseth : he hath broken the covenant, he hath despised the cities, he regardeth no man.  9 The earth mourneth and languisheth : Lebanon is ashamed and hewn down : Sharon is like a wilderness; and Bashan and Carmel shake off their fruits.  10 Now will I rise , saith the LORD; now will I be exalted ; now will I lift up myself.  11 Ye shall conceive chaff, ye shall bring forth stubble: your breath, as fire, shall devour you.  12 And the people shall be as the burnings of lime: as thorns cut up shall they be burned in the fire.  13 Hear , ye that are far off, what I have done ; and, ye that are near, acknowledge my might.  14 The sinners in Zion are afraid ; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?  15 He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil;  16 He shall dwell on high: his place of defence shall be the munitions of rocks: bread shall be given him; his waters shall be sure .  17 Thine eyes shall see the king in his beauty: they shall behold the land that is very far off.  18 Thine heart shall meditate terror. Where is the scribe ? where is the receiver ? where is he that counted the towers?  19 Thou shalt not see a fierce people, a people of a deeper speech than thou canst perceive ; of a stammering tongue, that thou canst not understand.  20 Look upon Zion, the city of our solemnities: thine eyes shall see Jerusalem a quiet habitation, a tabernacle that shall not be taken down ; not one of the stakes thereof shall ever be removed , neither shall any of the cords thereof be broken .  21 But there the glorious LORD will be unto us a place of broad  rivers and streams; wherein shall go no galley with oars, neither shall gallant ship pass thereby.  22 For the LORD is our judge , the LORD is our lawgiver , the LORD is our king; he will save us.  23 Thy tacklings are loosed ; they could not well strengthen their mast, they could not spread the sail: then is the prey of a great spoil divided ; the lame take the prey.  24 And the inhabitant shall not say , I am sick : the people that dwell therein shall be forgiven their iniquity.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:20 am

    I try to provide a wide variety of posts -- despite accusations that I just keep saying the same things over and over again. On the other hand, if I were inconsistent, I would be accused of being confused and unstable. I frankly don't care what anyone thinks. I simply want everyone to think. Period.


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    magamud wrote:Ya thats some living, thanks....
    Thank-you magamud. If everyone lived in similar circumstances -- with a combination of above-ground and below-ground dwellings and working-environments -- we all might be better-behaved. In this rat-race -- it seems as if the rats are winning. Nice guys and gals should never finish last. Perhaps we need to Reward Responsibility -- and Punish Irresponsibility. Perhaps we need to replace Free-Enterprise with Responsible-Enterprise. I'm so tired of the game I've played throughout my life (and especially during the past 3 or 4 years). I really wish to stop bitching -- and start living -- especially if very few are listening and appreciating. Being a Visionary-Hybrid is SO overrated. Perhaps the rebellious and recalcitrant goyim will simply have to learn the hard way. Babylon is falling -- that Great City -- because she made the nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. Not one stone shall remain upon another. All is terror and confusion. Ashes to Ashes. Dust to Dust. The 'Whore of Babylon' babbles on and on and on and on and on. The First Shall be Last. The Last Shall be First. Embrace Kara Thrace. End of Line.



    Aquaries1111 wrote:Hi Oxy,

    I want you to know I am still reading you.. I am only on page 2 though of your beautiful path thread.  I almost wish I had started the path the same time you did, I wouldn't feel so left behind then.. Okay I'll stop whinging.. I know, I know, we are multi-dimensional and what existed then also exists now.. so now is where I am to read.. so bee it..

    Your Bill Cooper link has sent me on a Bill Cooper download overload.. I need to get back to study and get back to page 2.. There's so much information I almost need to just close myself off and focus on your precious thread. I do know it's precious..

    magamud wrote:
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    Come near , ye nations, to hear ; and hearken , ye people: let the earth hear , and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth of it.  2 For the indignation of the LORD is upon all nations, and his fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter.  3 Their slain also shall be cast out , and their stink shall come up out of their carcases, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood.  4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved , and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down , as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.  5 For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.  6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.  7 And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.  8 For it is the day of the LORD'S vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.  9 And the streams thereof shall be turned into pitch, and the dust thereof into brimstone, and the land thereof shall become burning pitch.  10 It shall not be quenched night nor day; the smoke thereof shall go up for ever: from generation to generation it shall lie waste ; none shall pass through it for ever and ever.  11 But the cormorant and the bittern shall possess it; the owl also and the raven shall dwell in it: and he shall stretch out upon it the line of confusion, and the stones of emptiness.  12 They shall call the nobles thereof to the kingdom, but none shall be there, and all her princes shall be nothing.  13 And thorns shall come up in her palaces, nettles and brambles in the fortresses thereof: and it shall be an habitation of dragons, and a court for owls .  14 The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest.  15 There shall the great owl make her nest , and lay , and hatch , and gather under her shadow: there shall the vultures also be gathered , every one with her mate.  16 Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read : no one of these shall fail , none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded , and his spirit it hath gathered them.  17 And he hath cast the lot for them, and his hand hath divided it unto them by line: they shall possess it for ever, from generation to generation shall they dwell therein.

    The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice , and blossom as the rose.  2 It shall blossom abundantly , and rejoice even with joy and singing : the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the LORD, and the excellency of our God.  3 Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees.  4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong , fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.  5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened , and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped .  6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing : for in the wilderness shall waters break out , and streams in the desert.  7 And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.  8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men , though fools, shall not err therein.  9 No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shall walk there:  10 And the ransomed of the LORD shall return , and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away .

    Now it came to pass in the fourteenth  year of king Hezekiah, that Sennacherib king of Assyria came up against all the defenced cities of Judah, and took them.  2 And the king of Assyria sent Rabshakeh from Lachish to Jerusalem unto king Hezekiah with a great army. And he stood by the conduit of the upper pool in the highway of the fuller's field.  3 Then came forth unto him Eliakim, Hilkiah's son, which was over the house, and Shebna the scribe , and Joah, Asaph's son, the recorder .  4 And Rabshakeh said unto them, Say ye now to Hezekiah, Thus saith the great king, the king of Assyria, What confidence is this wherein thou trustest ?  5 I say , sayest thou, (but they are but vain words) I have counsel and strength for war: now on whom dost thou trust , that thou rebellest against me?  6 Lo, thou trustest in the staff of this broken reed, on Egypt; whereon if a man lean , it will go into his hand, and pierce it: so is Pharaoh king of Egypt to all that trust in him.  7 But if thou say to me, We trust in the LORD our God: is it not he, whose high places and whose altars Hezekiah hath taken away , and said to Judah and to Jerusalem, Ye shall worship before this altar?  8 Now therefore give pledges , I pray thee, to my master the king of Assyria, and I will give thee two thousand horses, if thou be able on thy part to set riders upon them.  9 How then wilt thou turn away the face of one captain of the least of my master's servants, and put thy trust on Egypt for chariots and for horsemen?  10 And am I now come up without the LORD against this land to destroy it? the LORD said unto me, Go up against this land, and destroy it.  11 Then said Eliakim and Shebna and Joah unto Rabshakeh, Speak , I pray thee, unto thy servants in the Syrian language; for we understand it: and speak not to us in the Jews' language, in the ears of the people that are on the wall.  12 But Rabshakeh said , Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung  , and drink their own piss   with you?  13 Then Rabshakeh stood , and cried with a loud voice in the Jews' language, and said , Hear ye the words of the great king, the king of Assyria.  14 Thus saith the king, Let not Hezekiah deceive you: for he shall not be able to deliver you.  15 Neither let Hezekiah make you trust in the LORD, saying , The LORD will surely deliver us: this city shall not be delivered into the hand of the king of Assyria.  16 Hearken not to Hezekiah: for thus saith the king of Assyria, Make an agreement with me by a present, and come out to me: and eat ye every one of his vine, and every one of his fig tree, and drink ye every one the waters of his own cistern;  17 Until I come and take you away to a land like your own land, a land of corn and wine, a land of bread and vineyards.  18 Beware lest Hezekiah persuade you, saying , The LORD will deliver us. Hath any of the gods of the nations delivered his land out of the hand of the king of Assyria?  19 Where are the gods of Hamath and Arphad? where are the gods of Sepharvaim? and have they delivered Samaria out of my hand?  20 Who are they among all the gods of these lands, that have delivered their land out of my hand, that the LORD should deliver Jerusalem out of my hand?  21 But they held their peace , and answered him not a word: for the king's commandment was, saying , Answer him not.  22 Then came Eliakim, the son of Hilkiah, that was over the household, and Shebna the scribe , and Joah, the son of Asaph, the recorder , to Hezekiah with their clothes rent , and told him the words of Rabshakeh.

    And it came to pass, when king Hezekiah heard it, that he rent his clothes, and covered himself with sackcloth, and went into the house of the LORD.  2 And he sent Eliakim, who was over the household, and Shebna the scribe , and the elders of the priests covered with sackcloth, unto Isaiah the prophet the son of Amoz.  3 And they said unto him, Thus saith Hezekiah, This day is a day of trouble, and of rebuke, and of blasphemy: for the children are come to the birth, and there is not strength to bring forth .  4 It may be the LORD thy God will hear the words of Rabshakeh, whom the king of Assyria his master hath sent to reproach the living God, and will reprove the words which the LORD thy God hath heard : wherefore lift up thy prayer for the remnant that is left .  5 So the servants of king Hezekiah came to Isaiah.  6 And Isaiah said unto them, Thus shall ye say unto your master, Thus saith the LORD, Be not afraid of the words that thou hast heard , wherewith the servants of the king of Assyria have blasphemed me.  7 Behold, I will send a blast upon him, and he shall hear a rumour, and return to his own land; and I will cause him to fall by the sword in his own land.  8 So Rabshakeh returned , and found the king of Assyria warring against Libnah: for he had heard that he was departed from Lachish.  9 And he heard say concerning Tirhakah king of Ethiopia, He is come forth to make war with thee. And when he heard it, he sent messengers to Hezekiah, saying ,  10 Thus shall ye speak to Hezekiah king of Judah, saying , Let not thy God, in whom thou trustest , deceive thee, saying , Jerusalem shall not be given into the hand of the king of Assyria.  11 Behold, thou hast heard what the kings of Assyria have done to all lands by destroying them utterly ; and shalt thou be delivered ?  12 Have the gods of the nations delivered them which my fathers have destroyed , as Gozan, and Haran, and Rezeph, and the children of Eden which were in Telassar?  13 Where is the king of Hamath, and the king of Arphad, and the king of the city of Sepharvaim, Hena, and Ivah?  14 And Hezekiah received the letter from the hand of the messengers, and read it: and Hezekiah went up unto the house of the LORD, and spread it before the LORD.  15 And Hezekiah prayed unto the LORD, saying ,  16 O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth.  17 Incline thine ear, O LORD, and hear ; open thine eyes, O LORD, and see : and hear all the words of Sennacherib, which hath sent to reproach the living God.  

    Of a truth, LORD, the kings of Assyria have laid waste all the nations, and their countries,  19 And have cast their gods into the fire: for they were no gods, but the work of men's hands, wood and stone: therefore they have destroyed them.  20 Now therefore, O LORD our God, save us from his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that thou art the LORD, even thou only.  21 Then Isaiah the son of Amoz sent unto Hezekiah, saying , Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Whereas thou hast prayed to me against Sennacherib king of Assyria:  22 This is the word which the LORD hath spoken concerning him; The virgin, the daughter of Zion, hath despised thee, and laughed thee to scorn; the daughter of Jerusalem hath shaken her head at thee.  23 Whom hast thou reproached and blasphemed ? and against whom hast thou exalted thy voice, and lifted up thine eyes on high? even against the Holy One of Israel.  24 By thy servants hast thou reproached the Lord, and hast said , By the multitude of my chariots am I come up to the height of the mountains, to the sides of Lebanon; and I will cut down the tall cedars thereof, and the choice fir trees thereof: and I will enter into the height of his border, and the forest of his Carmel.  25 I have digged , and drunk water; and with the sole of my feet have I dried up all the rivers of the besieged places.  26 Hast thou not heard long ago, how I have done it; and of ancient times, that I have formed it? now have I brought it to pass, that thou shouldest be to lay waste defenced cities into ruinous heaps.  27 Therefore their inhabitants were of small power, they were dismayed and confounded : they were as the grass of the field, and as the green herb, as the grass on the housetops, and as corn blasted before it be grown up.  28 But I know thy abode , and thy going out , and thy coming in , and thy rage against me.  29 Because thy rage against me, and thy tumult, is come up into mine ears, therefore will I put my hook in thy nose, and my bridle in thy lips, and I will turn thee back by the way by which thou camest .  30 And this shall be a sign unto thee, Ye shall eat this year such as groweth of itself; and the second year that which springeth of the same: and in the third year sow ye, and reap , and plant vineyards, and eat the fruit thereof.  31 And the remnant that is escaped of the house of Judah shall again take root downward, and bear fruit upward:  32 For out of Jerusalem shall go forth a remnant, and they that escape out of mount Zion: the zeal of the LORD of hosts shall do this.  33 Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the king of Assyria, He shall not come into this city, nor shoot an arrow there, nor come before it with shields, nor cast a bank against it.  34 By the way that he came , by the same shall he return , and shall not come into this city, saith the LORD.  35 For I will defend this city to save it for mine own sake, and for my servant David's sake.  36 Then the angel of the LORD went forth , and smote in the camp of the Assyrians a hundred and fourscore and five thousand: and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses.  37 So Sennacherib king of Assyria departed , and went and returned , and dwelt at Nineveh.  38 And it came to pass, as he was worshipping in the house of Nisroch his god, that Adrammelech and Sharezer his sons smote him with the sword; and they escaped into the land of Armenia: and Esarhaddon his son reigned in his stead.

    In those days was Hezekiah sick unto death . And Isaiah the prophet the son of Amoz came unto him, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Set thine house in order : for thou shalt die , and not live .  2 Then Hezekiah turned his face toward the wall, and prayed unto the LORD,  3 And said , Remember now, O LORD, I beseech thee, how I have walked before thee in truth and with a perfect heart, and have done that which is good in thy sight. And Hezekiah wept  sore.  4 Then came the word of the LORD to Isaiah, saying ,  5 Go , and say to Hezekiah, Thus saith the LORD, the God of David thy father, I have heard thy prayer, I have seen thy tears: behold, I will add unto thy days fifteen  years.  6 And I will deliver thee and this city out of the hand of the king of Assyria: and I will defend this city.  7 And this shall be a sign unto thee from the LORD, that the LORD will do this thing that he hath spoken ;  8 Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down .  9 The writing of Hezekiah king of Judah, when he had been sick , and was recovered of his sickness:  10 I said in the cutting off of my days, I shall go to the gates of the grave: I am deprived of the residue of my years.  11 I said , I shall not see the LORD, even the LORD, in the land of the living: I shall behold man no more with the inhabitants of the world.  12 Mine age is departed , and is removed from me as a shepherd's tent: I have cut off like a weaver my life: he will cut me off with pining sickness: from day even to night wilt thou make an end of me.  13 I reckoned till morning, that, as a lion, so will he break all my bones: from day even to night wilt thou make an end of me.  14 Like a crane or a swallow, so did I chatter : I did mourn as a dove: mine eyes fail with looking upward: O LORD, I am oppressed; undertake for me.  15 What shall I say ? he hath both spoken unto me, and himself hath done it: I shall go softly all my years in the bitterness of my soul.  16 O Lord, by these things men live , and in all these things is the life of my spirit: so wilt thou recover me, and make me to live .  17 Behold, for peace I had great bitterness  : but thou hast in love to my soul delivered it from the pit of corruption: for thou hast cast all my sins behind thy back.  18 For the grave cannot praise thee, death can not celebrate thee: they that go down into the pit cannot hope for thy truth.  19 The living, the living, he shall praise thee, as I do this day: the father to the children shall make known thy truth.  20 The LORD was ready to save me: therefore we will sing my songs to the stringed instruments all the days of our life in the house of the LORD.  21 For Isaiah had said , Let them take a lump of figs, and lay it for a plaister upon the boil, and he shall recover .  22 Hezekiah also had said , What is the sign that I shall go up to the house of the LORD?

    At that time Merodachbaladan, the son of Baladan, king of Babylon, sent letters and a present to Hezekiah: for he had heard that he had been sick , and was recovered .  2 And Hezekiah was glad of them, and shewed them the house of his precious things, the silver, and the gold, and the spices, and the precious ointment, and all the house of his armour, and all that was found in his treasures: there was nothing in his house, nor in all his dominion, that Hezekiah shewed them not.  3 Then came Isaiah the prophet unto king Hezekiah, and said unto him, What said these men? and from whence came they unto thee? And Hezekiah said , They are come from a far country unto me, even from Babylon.  4 Then said he, What have they seen in thine house? And Hezekiah answered , All that is in mine house have they seen : there is nothing among my treasures that I have not shewed them.  5 Then said Isaiah to Hezekiah, Hear the word of the LORD of hosts:  6 Behold, the days come , that all that is in thine house, and that which thy fathers have laid up in store until this day, shall be carried to Babylon: nothing shall be left , saith the LORD.  7 And of thy sons that shall issue from thee, which thou shalt beget , shall they take away ; and they shall be eunuchs in the palace of the king of Babylon.  8 Then said Hezekiah to Isaiah, Good is the word of the LORD which thou hast spoken . He said moreover, For there shall be peace and truth in my days.

    Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God.  2 Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished , that her iniquity is pardoned : for she hath received of the LORD'S hand double for all her sins.  3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.  4 Every valley shall be exalted , and every mountain and hill shall be made low : and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:  5 And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed , and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.  6 The voice said , Cry . And he said , What shall I cry ? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field:  7 The grass withereth , the flower fadeth : because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass.  8 The grass withereth , the flower fadeth : but the word of our God shall stand for ever.  9 O Zion, that bringest good tidings , get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings , lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up , be not afraid ; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God!  10 Behold, the Lord GOD will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.  11 He shall feed his flock like a shepherd : he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young .  12 Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance?  13 Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his counsellor hath taught him?  14 With whom took he counsel , and who instructed him, and taught him in the path of judgment, and taught him knowledge, and shewed to him the way of understanding?  

    Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.  16 And Lebanon is not sufficient to burn , nor the beasts thereof sufficient for a burnt offering.  17 All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.  18 To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?  19 The workman melteth a graven image, and the goldsmith spreadeth it over with gold, and casteth silver chains.  20 He that is so impoverished that he hath no oblation chooseth a tree that will not rot ; he seeketh unto him a cunning workman to prepare a graven image, that shall not be moved .  21 Have ye not known ? have ye not heard ? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?  22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in :  23 That bringeth the princes to nothing; he maketh the judges of the earth as vanity.  24 Yea, they shall not be planted ; yea, they shall not be sown : yea, their stock shall not take root in the earth: and he shall also blow upon them, and they shall wither , and the whirlwind shall take them away as stubble.  25 To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal ? saith the Holy One.  26 Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one faileth .  27 Why sayest thou, O Jacob, and speakest , O Israel, My way is hid from the LORD, and my judgment is passed over from my God?  28 Hast thou not known ? hast thou not heard , that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary ? there is no searching of his understanding.  29 He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no might he increaseth strength.  30 Even the youths shall faint and be weary , and the young men shall utterly fall :  31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run , and not be weary ; and they shall walk , and not faint.

    Keep silence before me, O islands; and let the people renew their strength: let them come near ; then let them speak : let us come near together to judgment.  2 Who raised up the righteous man from the east, called him to his foot, gave the nations before him, and made him rule over kings? he gave them as the dust to his sword, and as driven stubble to his bow.  3 He pursued them, and passed safely; even by the way that he had not gone with his feet.  4 Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he.  5 The isles saw it, and feared ; the ends of the earth were afraid , drew near , and came .  6 They helped every one his neighbour; and every one said to his brother, Be of good courage .  7 So the carpenter encouraged the goldsmith , and he that smootheth with the hammer him that smote the anvil, saying , It is ready for the sodering: and he fastened it with nails, that it should not be moved .  8 But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen , the seed of Abraham my friend .  9 Thou whom I have taken from the ends of the earth, and called thee from the chief men thereof, and said unto thee, Thou art my servant; I have chosen thee, and not cast thee away .  10 Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed ; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.  11 Behold, all they that were incensed against thee shall be ashamed and confounded : they shall be as nothing; and they that strive with thee shall perish .  12 Thou shalt seek them, and shalt not find them, even them that contended with thee: they that war against thee shall be as nothing, and as a thing of nought.  13 For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee.  14 Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer , the Holy One of Israel.  

    Behold, I will make thee a new sharp threshing instrument having teeth: thou shalt thresh the mountains, and beat them small , and shalt make the hills as chaff.  16 Thou shalt fan them, and the wind shall carry them away , and the whirlwind shall scatter them: and thou shalt rejoice in the LORD, and shalt glory in the Holy One of Israel.  17 When the poor and needy seek water, and there is none, and their tongue faileth for thirst, I the LORD will hear them, I the God of Israel will not forsake them.  18 I will open rivers in high places, and fountains in the midst of the valleys: I will make the wilderness a pool of water, and the dry land springs of water.  19 I will plant in the wilderness the cedar, the shittah tree, and the myrtle, and the oil tree; I will set in the desert the fir tree, and the pine, and the box tree together:  20 That they may see , and know , and consider , and understand together, that the hand of the LORD hath done this, and the Holy One of Israel hath created it.  21 Produce your cause, saith the LORD; bring forth your strong reasons, saith the King of Jacob.  22 Let them bring them forth , and shew us what shall happen : let them shew the former things, what they be, that we may consider  them, and know the latter end of them; or declare us things for to come .  23 Shew the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye are gods: yea, do good , or do evil , that we may be dismayed , and behold it together.  24 Behold, ye are of nothing, and your work of nought: an abomination is he that chooseth you.  25 I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come : from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay.  26 Who hath declared from the beginning, that we may know ? and beforetime, that we may say , He is righteous? yea, there is none that sheweth , yea, there is none that declareth , yea, there is none that heareth your words.  27 The first shall say to Zion, Behold, behold them: and I will give to Jerusalem one that bringeth good tidings .  28 For I beheld , and there was no man; even among them, and there was no counsellor , that, when I asked of them, could answer a word.  29 Behold, they are all vanity; their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion.

    Behold my servant, whom I uphold ; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth ; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.  2 He shall not cry , nor lift up , nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.  3 A bruised reed shall he not break , and the smoking flax shall he not quench : he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.  4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged , till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.  5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out ; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:  6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;  7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.  8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.  9 Behold, the former things are come to pass , and new things do I declare : before they spring forth I tell you of them.  10 Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof.  11 Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice, the villages that Kedar doth inhabit : let the inhabitants of the rock sing , let them shout from the top of the mountains.  12 Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands.  13 The LORD shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry , yea, roar ; he shall prevail against his enemies .  14 I have long time holden my peace ; I have been still , and refrained myself: now will I cry like a travailing woman ; I will destroy and devour at once.  15 I will make waste mountains and hills, and dry up all their herbs; and I will make the rivers islands, and I will dry up the pools.  16 And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known : I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.  17 They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed , that trust in graven images, that say to the molten images, Ye are our gods.  18 Hear , ye deaf; and look , ye blind, that ye may see .  19 Who is blind, but my servant? or deaf, as my messenger that I sent ? who is blind as he that is perfect , and blind as the LORD'S servant?  20 Seeing many things, but thou observest not; opening the ears, but he heareth not.  21 The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable .  22 But this is a people robbed and spoiled ; they are all of them snared in holes  , and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth ; for a spoil, and none saith , Restore .  23 Who among you will give ear to this? who will hearken and hear for the time to come?  24 Who gave Jacob for a spoil  , and Israel to the robbers ? did not the LORD, he against whom we have sinned ? for they would not walk in his ways, neither were they obedient unto his law.  25 Therefore he hath poured upon him the fury of his anger, and the strength of battle: and it hath set him on fire round about, yet he knew not; and it burned him, yet he laid it not to heart.

    But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine.  2 When thou passest through the waters, I will be with thee; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee: when thou walkest through the fire, thou shalt not be burned ; neither shall the flame kindle upon thee.  3 For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour : I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.  4 Since thou wast precious in my sight, thou hast been honourable , and I have loved thee: therefore will I give men for thee, and people for thy life.  5 Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west;  6 I will say to the north, Give up ; and to the south, Keep not back : bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth;  7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.  8 Bring forth the blind people that have eyes, and the deaf that have ears.  9 Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled : who among them can declare this, and shew us former things? let them bring forth their witnesses, that they may be justified : or let them hear , and say , It is truth.  10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen : that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed , neither shall there be after me.  11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour .  12 I have declared , and have saved , and I have shewed , when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.  13 Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work , and who shall let it?   14 Thus saith the LORD, your redeemer , the Holy One of Israel; For your sake I have sent to Babylon, and have brought down all their nobles, and the Chaldeans, whose cry is in the ships.  15 I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King.  16 Thus saith the LORD, which maketh a way in the sea, and a path in the mighty waters;  17 Which bringeth forth the chariot and horse, the army and the power; they shall lie down together, they shall not rise : they are extinct , they are quenched as tow.  18 Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old.  19 Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth ; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert.  20 The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls  : because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen.  21 This people have I formed for myself; they shall shew forth my praise.  22 But thou hast not called upon me, O Jacob; but thou hast been weary of me, O Israel.  23 Thou hast not brought me the small cattle of thy burnt offerings; neither hast thou honoured me with thy sacrifices. I have not caused thee to serve with an offering, nor wearied thee with incense.  24 Thou hast bought me no sweet cane with money, neither hast thou filled me with the fat of thy sacrifices: but thou hast made me to serve with thy sins, thou hast wearied me with thine iniquities.  25 I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins.  26 Put me in remembrance : let us plead together: declare thou, that thou mayest be justified .  27 Thy first father hath sinned , and thy teachers have transgressed against me.  28 Therefore I have profaned the princes of the sanctuary, and have given Jacob to the curse, and Israel to reproaches.

    Yet now hear , O Jacob my servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen :  2 Thus saith the LORD that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, my servant; and thou, Jesurun, whom I have chosen .  3 For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring:  4 And they shall spring up as among the grass, as willows by the water courses.  5 One shall say , I am the LORD'S; and another shall call himself by the name of Jacob; and another shall subscribe with his hand unto the LORD, and surname himself by the name of Israel.  6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.  7 And who, as I, shall call , and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming , and shall come , let them shew unto them.  8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid : have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.  9 They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit ; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know ; that they may be ashamed .  10 Who hath formed a god, or molten a graven image that is profitable for nothing?  11 Behold, all his fellows shall be ashamed : and the workmen, they are of men: let them all be gathered together , let them stand up ; yet they shall fear , and they shall be ashamed together.  12 The smith with the tongs both worketh in the coals, and fashioneth it with hammers, and worketh it with the strength of his arms: yea, he is hungry, and his strength faileth: he drinketh no water, and is faint .  13 The carpenter stretcheth out his rule; he marketh it out with a line; he fitteth it with planes, and he marketh it out with the compass, and maketh it after the figure of a man, according to the beauty of a man; that it may remain in the house.  

    He heweth him down cedars, and taketh the cypress and the oak, which he strengtheneth for himself among the trees of the forest: he planteth an ash, and the rain doth nourish it.  15 Then shall it be for a man to burn : for he will take thereof, and warm himself; yea, he kindleth it, and baketh bread; yea, he maketh a god, and worshippeth it; he maketh it a graven image, and falleth down thereto.  16 He burneth part thereof in the fire; with part thereof he eateth flesh; he roasteth roast, and is satisfied : yea, he warmeth himself, and saith , Aha, I am warm , I have seen the fire:  17 And the residue thereof he maketh a god, even his graven image: he falleth down unto it, and worshippeth it, and prayeth unto it, and saith , Deliver me; for thou art my god.  18 They have not known nor understood : for he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see ; and their hearts, that they cannot understand .  19 And none considereth in his heart, neither is there knowledge nor understanding to say , I have burned part of it in the fire; yea, also I have baked bread upon the coals thereof; I have roasted flesh, and eaten it: and shall I make the residue thereof an abomination? shall I fall down to the stock of a tree?  20 He feedeth on ashes: a deceived heart hath turned him aside , that he cannot deliver his soul, nor say , Is there not a lie in my right hand?  21 Remember these, O Jacob and Israel; for thou art my servant: I have formed thee; thou art my servant: O Israel, thou shalt not be forgotten of me.  22 I have blotted out , as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: return unto me; for I have redeemed thee.  23 Sing , O ye heavens; for the LORD hath done it: shout , ye lower parts of the earth: break forth into singing, ye mountains, O forest, and every tree therein: for the LORD hath redeemed Jacob, and glorified himself in Israel.  24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer , and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;  25 That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad ; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish ;  26 That confirmeth the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers; that saith to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be inhabited ; and to the cities of Judah, Ye shall be built , and I will raise up the decayed places thereof:  27 That saith to the deep, Be dry , and I will dry up thy rivers:  28 That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd , and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built ; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid.

    Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden , to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut ;  2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight : I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:  3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.  4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.  5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:  6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.  7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.  8 Drop down , ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open , and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it.  9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker ! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?  10 Woe unto him that saith unto his father, What begettest thou? or to the woman, What hast thou brought forth ?  11 Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker , Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me.  12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.  

    I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the LORD of hosts.  14 Thus saith the LORD, The labour of Egypt, and merchandise of Ethiopia and of the Sabeans, men of stature, shall come over unto thee, and they shall be thine: they shall come after thee; in chains they shall come over , and they shall fall down unto thee, they shall make supplication unto thee, saying, Surely God is in thee; and there is none else, there is no God.  15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour .  16 They shall be ashamed , and also confounded , all of them: they shall go to confusion together that are makers of idols.  17 But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.  18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited : I am the LORD; and there is none else.  19 I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.  20 Assemble yourselves and come ; draw near together, ye that are escaped of the nations: they have no knowledge that set up the wood of their graven image, and pray unto a god that cannot save .  21 Tell ye, and bring them near ; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour ; there is none beside me.  22 Look unto me, and be ye saved , all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.  23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return , That unto me every knee shall bow , every tongue shall swear .  24 Surely, shall one say , in the LORD have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come ; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed .  25 In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified , and shall glory.
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    Post  B.B.Baghor Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:22 am

    ortho's words: "I try to provide a wide variety of posts -- despite accusations that I just keep saying the same things over and over again. On the other hand, if I were inconsistent, I would be accused of being confused and unstable. I frankly don't care what anyone thinks. I simply want everyone to think. Period".

    Comment in the tubby with the grizzly bears catching salmon, in your post "For every salmon that is caught, hundreds make it past the bears......."

    Honestly, ortho, comments on your saying the same things over and over, to me that's not an accusation.
    When I share that opinion, it's a comment on how it's perceived by me. For some reason you seem to be
    fixed on that judgement, of being accused, so that you feel compelled to repeat your message, in order to
    prove you're right or to make clear what it is you're after. That's a possible checkmate position, to me.

    It's your reaction, to feel an accusation and you seem stuck in it. You're as much trying to live up to
    expectations of your audience as dictating your rules how the audience should listen. I think that you're
    in one of the most patient and kind fora here, with many members, including me, communicating with you
    in an openminded way and with good intentions.

    I don't choose to belittle you or your thread, or display a smiling face, at the same time shaking my head inside.
    Some may do that here, to sort of please you. That's not helping, does it? Many of those who read your thread,
    have shown you they appreciate your presence here and (maybe with some difficulty) also your thread.
    You are not your thread, see? That's where the sting is present, or so it seems. I feel a sameness in your
    trying hard and my trying hard, in a way.

    There's an obstacle between people's minds present here, reading your thread and yours presenting
    food for thought in it. So far, you don't receive what you're aiming at, that's made clear by you. To me,
    it seems that somewhere there's an opinion put on ice. My efforts to clarify or understand, may prove
    that "never the twain shall meet." That opinion on ice, or a prefixed idea, may be in the mind of the readers,
    in my mind also, for I truly find it hard to follow, where your mind goes, or is, ortho.

    Can we meet halfway? That could work maybe....... I think Wink
    I'm honestly thinking out loud, to myself mainly, sharing it here with a purpose, if you can get that.
    Is making sense done by thinking? Is humour a way to bypass the trap of absolute truth and perfection?
    When is an answer given that is also received as an answer?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U

    Tim Minchin's Storm the Animated Movie

    To me, this is a delicious merging of instinctual view and overview.
    Those 2 views are meant to be made aware in one moment, as I see it,
    in a positive "the twain shall meet"


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    Post  orthodoxymoron Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:20 pm

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    B.B.Baghor wrote: ortho's words: "I try to provide a wide variety of posts -- despite accusations that I just keep saying the same things over and over again. On the other hand, if I were inconsistent, I would be accused of being confused and unstable. I frankly don't care what anyone thinks. I simply want everyone to think. Period".

    Comment in the tubby with the grizzly bears catching salmon, in your post "For every salmon that is caught, hundreds make it past the bears......."

    Once upon a time -- I had a digital voice-recorder which worked perfectly -- expect when recording one particular individual. A normal-sounding voice became a hideous gravely (almost demonic) voice when played-back on that particular digital-recorder!! This occurred repeatedly (without exception). I mentioned this to the Ancient Egyptian Deity -- to which they replied "Some Slip Through". Honest.

    Honestly, ortho, comments on your saying the same things over and over, to me that's not an accusation. When I share that opinion, it's a comment on how it's perceived by me. For some reason you seem to be fixed on that judgment, of being accused, so that you feel compelled to repeat your message, in order to prove you're right or to make clear what it is you're after. That's a possible checkmate position, to me.

    So -- is this a King and Queen War-Game?? I often feel like a Completely Ignorant Pawn!! Please remember that I am honestly modeling concepts and personalities which do NOT reflect who I am in "real-life". I might share some of the inclinations and biases -- but I don't behave like this in everyday life. What scares me is that the ease with which I model on this thread leads me to wonder if I might've been somewhat like this in previous lives. I'm honestly NOT channeling some nefarious entity. I don't do anything even remotely creepy. I might be channeling myself. Was it Lionhawk who spoke of channeling themselves?? I can't quite remember -- but I know it was someone on this forum who is no longer posting. Each of my posts are the same -- only different -- reflecting the concept of "Theme and Variations". I honestly keep feeling as though I was somehow set-up in this incarnation -- where every behavior and editorial-slant would be somehow used against me -- with the general theme of Build Them Up -- and Knock Them Down.

    It's your reaction, to feel an accusation and you seem stuck in it. You're as much trying to live up to expectations of your audience as dictating your rules how the audience should listen. I think that you're in one of the most patient and kind forum here, with many members, including me, communicating with you in an open-minded way and with good intentions.

    I can't dictate Rules of Listening. What Would Julian Treasure Say?? I can't even get others to listen. Period. This is a highly tolerant forum -- but I often feel as if I am silently being fed enough rope to hang myself (which I seem to be effectively and efficiently doing each and every day). I seem to be somehow protected -- while I continue to destroy myself. I guess I keep thinking that if I am never built-up -- it is more difficult to knock me down. This whole thing is frankly a Most Dangerous Game to me. It's so sad -- that it's almost funny...



    I don't choose to belittle you or your thread, or display a smiling face, at the same time shaking my head inside. Some may do that here, to sort of please you. That's not helping, does it? Many of those who read your thread, have shown you they appreciate your presence here and (maybe with some difficulty) also your thread. You are not your thread, see? That's where the sting is present, or so it seems. I feel a sameness in your trying hard and my trying hard, in a way.

    Forgive me for repeating this -- but you often remind me of "Angela" in that 1978 movie "The Word" (which sends chills up and down my spine). That's actually a compliment. I honestly feel like a sci-fi script-writer. Decades ago, I spoke with a very famous Hollywood-Director's Stepmother about wishing for "someone" to create a High-Tech Science-Fictional "Life of Christ" Based Upon The Desire of Ages by Ellen White. Honest. She spoke of her stepson being fearful. Now I think I understand why -- based upon which movies were being made at that time -- and what I know now.




    There's an obstacle between people's minds present here, reading your thread and yours presenting food for thought in it. So far, you don't receive what you're aiming at, that's made clear by you. To me, it seems that somewhere there's an opinion put on ice. My efforts to clarify or understand, may prove that "never the twain shall meet." That opinion on ice, or a prefixed idea, may be in the mind of the readers, in my mind also, for I truly find it hard to follow, where your mind goes, or is, ortho.

    I have repeatedly stated that this thread merely scratches the surface. I could make this MUCH more complex and graphic. I've been around highly-educated English and Australian Theologians and Preachers -- and it's quite humbling -- and even a bit creepy. Some of you know what I'm talking about. This thread is sort of Gizeh-Intelligence for the Rest of Us!!

    Can we meet halfway? That could work maybe....... I think  Wink  I'm honestly thinking out loud, to myself mainly, sharing it here with a purpose, if you can get that. Is making sense done by thinking? Is humour a way to bypass the trap of absolute truth and perfection? When is an answer given that is also received as an answer?

    Perhaps. I'm honestly attempting to understand what Genuine Fundamentalist Biblical Theology in the Context of Ancient and Modern Science-Fiction really looks like. My starting-point is that Everyone is Right -- and Everyone is Wrong -- which makes everyone angry and indignant. Irreverent-Humor seems to be destroying me -- little by little -- yet it seems to serve a utilitarian-purpose presently -- so I shall continue to crucify myself. We all have our crosses to bear -- don't we?? Orthodoxymoron or Wave of the Future?? Time Will Tell -- as it always does...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U

    Tim Minchin's Storm the Animated Movie

    To me, this is a delicious merging of instinctual view and overview. Those 2 views are meant to be made aware in one moment, as I see it, in a positive "the twain shall meet".

    I learned "Combining-Opposites" from Shirley Maclaine. I knew a Hollywood-Insider who told me that Shirley seemed to be lost in deep-thought when not on stage. Once -- while inside a major television-studio -- as I watched a rehearsal -- I noticed one particular individual who sat motionless and transfixed in front of the stage -- watching intently and silently -- with total-concentration. That made a deep impression on me. I honestly aspire to be that sort of person (regarding life, the universe, and everything). BTW -- I recently encountered an Individual of Interest who seemed to NOT like me one little bit -- and I think I might know why...




    "The mind…  can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven" ― John Milton

    Some of us seem to be "Making Heaven Into Hell" while others of us seem to be "Making Hell Into Heaven". What if CERN will somehow merge Heaven and Hell into some sort of an Eschatological Final-Jihad?? The Horror. I equate "Mind" with "Character" -- which we apparently take with us when we die. Who says "You Can't Take It With You"??
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:02 pm

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    Bel boweth down , Nebo stoopeth , their idols were upon the beasts, and upon the cattle: your carriages were heavy loaden ; they are a burden to the weary beast.  2 They stoop , they bow down together; they could not deliver the burden, but themselves are gone into captivity.  3 Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel, which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from the womb:  4 And even to your old age I am he; and even to hoar hairs will I carry you: I have made , and I will bear ; even I will carry , and will deliver you.  5 To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal , and compare me, that we may be like ?  6 They lavish gold out of the bag, and weigh silver in the balance, and hire a goldsmith ; and he maketh it a god: they fall down , yea, they worship .  7 They bear him upon the shoulder, they carry him, and set him in his place , and he standeth ; from his place shall he not remove : yea, one shall cry unto him, yet can he not answer , nor save him out of his trouble.  8 Remember this, and shew yourselves men : bring it again to mind, O ye transgressors .  9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,  10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done , saying , My counsel shall stand , and I will do all my pleasure:  11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.  12 Hearken unto me, ye stouthearted , that are far from righteousness:  13 I bring near my righteousness; it shall not be far off , and my salvation shall not tarry : and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.

    Come down , and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon, sit on the ground: there is no throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate.  2 Take the millstones, and grind meal: uncover thy locks, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh, pass over the rivers.  3 Thy nakedness shall be uncovered , yea, thy shame shall be seen : I will take vengeance, and I will not meet thee as a man.  4 As for our redeemer , the LORD of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel.  5 Sit thou silent, and get thee into darkness, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called , The lady of kingdoms.  6 I was wroth with my people, I have polluted mine inheritance, and given them into thine hand: thou didst shew them no mercy; upon the ancient hast thou very heavily laid thy yoke.  7 And thou saidst , I shall be a lady for ever: so that thou didst not lay these things to thy heart, neither didst remember the latter end of it.  8 Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly, that sayest in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children:  9 But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood: they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great abundance of thine enchantments.  10 For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said , None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me.  11 Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off : and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know .  12 Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit , if so be thou mayest prevail .  13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers  , the stargazers , the monthly prognosticators , stand up , and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.  14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.  15 Thus shall they be unto thee with whom thou hast laboured , even thy merchants , from thy youth: they shall wander every one to his quarter; none shall save thee.

    Hear ye this, O house of Jacob, which are called by the name of Israel, and are come forth out of the waters of Judah, which swear by the name of the LORD, and make mention of the God of Israel, but not in truth, nor in righteousness.  2 For they call themselves of the holy city, and stay themselves upon the God of Israel; The LORD of hosts is his name.  3 I have declared the former things from the beginning; and they went forth out of my mouth, and I shewed them; I did them suddenly, and they came to pass .  4 Because I knew that thou art obstinate, and thy neck is an iron sinew, and thy brow brass;  5 I have even from the beginning declared it to thee; before it came to pass I shewed it thee: lest thou shouldest say , Mine idol hath done them, and my graven image, and my molten image, hath commanded them.  6 Thou hast heard , see all this; and will not ye declare it? I have shewed thee new things from this time, even hidden things , and thou didst not know them.  7 They are created now, and not from the beginning; even before the day when thou heardest them not; lest thou shouldest say , Behold, I knew them.  8 Yea, thou heardest not; yea, thou knewest not; yea, from that time that thine ear was not opened : for I knew that thou wouldest deal very treacherously , and wast called a transgressor from the womb.  9 For my name's sake will I defer mine anger, and for my praise will I refrain for thee, that I cut thee not off .  10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.  11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted ? and I will not give my glory unto another.  12 Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called ; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.  13 Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together.  14 All ye, assemble yourselves, and hear ; which among them hath declared these things? The LORD hath loved him: he will do his pleasure on Babylon, and his arm shall be on the Chaldeans.  15 I, even I, have spoken ; yea, I have called him: I have brought him, and he shall make his way prosperous .  16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.  17 Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer , the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit , which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go .  18 O that thou hadst hearkened to my commandments! then had thy peace been as a river, and thy righteousness as the waves of the sea:  19 Thy seed also had been as the sand, and the offspring of thy bowels like the gravel thereof; his name should not have been cut off nor destroyed from before me.  20 Go ye forth of Babylon, flee ye from the Chaldeans, with a voice of singing declare ye, tell this, utter it even to the end of the earth; say ye, The LORD hath redeemed his servant Jacob.  21 And they thirsted not when he led them through the deserts: he caused the waters to flow out of the rock for them: he clave the rock also, and the waters gushed out .  22 There is no peace, saith the LORD, unto the wicked.

    Listen , O isles, unto me; and hearken , ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.  2 And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me;  3 And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified .  4 Then I said , I have laboured in vain, I have spent my strength for nought, and in vain: yet surely my judgment is with the LORD, and my work with my God.  5 And now, saith the LORD that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered , yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the LORD, and my God shall be my strength.  6 And he said , It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.  7 Thus saith the LORD, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth , to a servant of rulers , Kings shall see and arise , princes also shall worship , because of the LORD that is faithful , and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee.  8 Thus saith the LORD, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages;  9 That thou mayest say to the prisoners , Go forth ; to them that are in darkness, Shew yourselves. They shall feed in the ways, and their pastures shall be in all high places.  10 They shall not hunger nor thirst ; neither shall the heat nor sun smite them: for he that hath mercy on them shall lead them, even by the springs of water shall he guide them.  11 And I will make all my mountains a way, and my highways shall be exalted .  12 Behold, these shall come from far: and, lo, these from the north and from the west; and these from the land of Sinim.  13 Sing , O heavens; and be joyful , O earth; and break forth into singing, O mountains: for the LORD hath comforted his people, and will have mercy upon his afflicted.  14 But Zion said , The LORD hath forsaken me, and my Lord hath forgotten me.  15 Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget , yet will I not forget thee.  16 Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me.  17 Thy children shall make haste ; thy destroyers and they that made thee waste shall go forth of thee.  18 Lift up thine eyes round about, and behold : all these gather themselves together , and come to thee. As I live, saith the LORD, thou shalt surely clothe thee with them all, as with an ornament, and bind them on thee, as a bride doeth.  19 For thy waste and thy desolate places , and the land of thy destruction, shall even now be too narrow by reason of the inhabitants , and they that swallowed thee up shall be far away .  20 The children which thou shalt have, after thou hast lost the other, shall say again in thine ears, The place is too strait for me: give place to me that I may dwell .  21 Then shalt thou say in thine heart, Who hath begotten me these, seeing I have lost my children , and am desolate, a captive , and removing to and fro ? and who hath brought up these? Behold, I was left alone; these, where had they been?  22 Thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I will lift up mine hand to the Gentiles, and set up my standard to the people: and they shall bring thy sons in their arms, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders.  23 And kings shall be thy nursing fathers , and their queens thy nursing mothers : they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am the LORD: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me.  24 Shall the prey be taken from the mighty, or the lawful captive delivered ?  25 But thus saith the LORD, Even the captives of the mighty shall be taken away , and the prey of the terrible shall be delivered : for I will contend with him that contendeth with thee, and I will save thy children.  26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer , the mighty One of Jacob.

    Thus saith the LORD, Where is the bill of your mother's divorcement, whom I have put away ? or which of my creditors is it to whom I have sold you? Behold, for your iniquities have ye sold yourselves, and for your transgressions is your mother put away .  2 Wherefore, when I came , was there no man? when I called , was there none to answer ? Is my hand shortened at all , that it cannot redeem? or have I no power to deliver ? behold, at my rebuke I dry up the sea, I make the rivers a wilderness: their fish stinketh , because there is no water, and dieth for thirst.  3 I clothe the heavens with blackness, and I make sackcloth their covering.  4 The Lord GOD hath given me the tongue of the learned, that I should know how to speak a word in season to him that is weary: he wakeneth morning by morning, he wakeneth mine ear to hear as the learned.  5 The Lord GOD hath opened mine ear, and I was not rebellious , neither turned away back.  6 I gave my back to the smiters , and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.  7 For the Lord GOD will help me; therefore shall I not be confounded : therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be ashamed .  8 He is near that justifieth me; who will contend with me? let us stand together: who is mine adversary ? let him come near to me.  9 Behold, the Lord GOD will help me; who is he that shall condemn me? lo, they all shall wax old as a garment; the moth shall eat them up .  10 Who is among you that feareth the LORD, that obeyeth the voice of his servant, that walketh in darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in the name of the LORD, and stay upon his God.  11 Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that compass yourselves about with sparks: walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks that ye have kindled . This shall ye have of mine hand; ye shall lie down in sorrow.    

    Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn , and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged .  2 Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him.  3 For the LORD shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places; and he will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the LORD; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.  4 Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.  5 My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth , and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust .  6 Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished .  7 Hearken unto me, ye that know righteousness, the people in whose heart is my law; fear ye not the reproach of men, neither be ye afraid of their revilings.  8 For the moth shall eat them up like a garment, and the worm shall eat them like wool: but my righteousness shall be for ever, and my salvation from generation to generation.  9 Awake , awake , put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake , as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut Rahab, and wounded the dragon?  10 Art thou not it which hath dried the sea, the waters of the great deep; that hath made the depths of the sea a way for the ransomed to pass over ?  11 Therefore the redeemed of the LORD shall return , and come with singing unto Zion; and everlasting joy shall be upon their head: they shall obtain gladness and joy; and sorrow and mourning shall flee away .  12 I, even I, am he that comforteth you: who art thou, that thou shouldest be afraid of a man that shall die , and of the son of man which shall be made as grass;  13 And forgettest the LORD thy maker , that hath stretched forth the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth; and hast feared continually every day because of the fury of the oppressor , as if he were ready to destroy ? and where is the fury of the oppressor ?  14 The captive exile hasteneth that he may be loosed , and that he should not die in the pit, nor that his bread should fail .  15 But I am the LORD thy God, that divided the sea, whose waves roared : The LORD of hosts is his name.  16 And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people.  17 Awake , awake , stand up , O Jerusalem, which hast drunk at the hand of the LORD the cup of his fury; thou hast drunken the dregs of the cup of trembling, and wrung them out .  18 There is none to guide her among all the sons whom she hath brought forth ; neither is there any that taketh her by the hand of all the sons that she hath brought up .  19 These two things are come unto thee; who shall be sorry for thee? desolation, and destruction, and the famine, and the sword: by whom shall I comfort thee?  20 Thy sons have fainted , they lie at the head of all the streets, as a wild bull in a net: they are full of the fury of the LORD, the rebuke of thy God.  21 Therefore hear now this, thou afflicted, and drunken , but not with wine:  22 Thus saith thy Lord the LORD, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again :  23 But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down , that we may go over : and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over.  

    Awake , awake ; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean.  2 Shake thyself from the dust; arise , and sit down , O Jerusalem: loose thyself from the bands of thy neck, O captive daughter of Zion.  3 For thus saith the LORD, Ye have sold yourselves for nought; and ye shall be redeemed without money.  4 For thus saith the Lord GOD, My people went down aforetime into Egypt to sojourn there; and the Assyrian oppressed them without cause.  5 Now therefore, what have I here, saith the LORD, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl , saith the LORD; and my name continually every day is blasphemed .  6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak : behold, it is I.  7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings , that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth !  8 Thy watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing : for they shall see eye to eye, when the LORD shall bring again Zion.  9 Break forth into joy , sing together, ye waste places of Jerusalem: for the LORD hath comforted his people, he hath redeemed Jerusalem.  10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.  11 Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean thing; go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean , that bear the vessels of the LORD.  12 For ye shall not go out with haste, nor go by flight: for the LORD will go before you; and the God of Israel will be your rereward .  13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently , he shall be exalted and extolled , and be very high .  14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:  15 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see ; and that which they had not heard shall they consider.

    Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed ?  2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.  3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised , and we esteemed him not.  4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken , smitten of God, and afflicted .  5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed .  6 All we like sheep have gone astray ; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.  7 He was oppressed , and he was afflicted , yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb , so he openeth not his mouth.  8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.  9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.  10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief : when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.  11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied : by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.  12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors ; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

    Sing , O barren, thou that didst not bear ; break forth into singing, and cry aloud , thou that didst not travail with child : for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife , saith the LORD.  2 Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations: spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes;  3 For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left; and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited .  4 Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed : neither be thou confounded ; for thou shalt not be put to shame : for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.  5 For thy Maker is thine husband ; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called .  6 For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused , saith thy God.  7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.  8 In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer .  9 For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.  10 For the mountains shall depart , and the hills be removed ; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed , saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee.  11 O thou afflicted, tossed with tempest , and not comforted , behold, I will lay thy stones with fair colours, and lay thy foundations with sapphires.  12 And I will make thy windows of agates, and thy gates of carbuncles , and all thy borders of pleasant stones.  13 And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.  14 In righteousness shalt thou be established : thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear : and from terror; for it shall not come near thee.  15 Behold, they shall surely gather together , but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.  16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy .  17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper ; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn . This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

    Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy , and eat ; yea, come , buy wine and milk without money and without price.  2 Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.  3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear , and your soul shall live ; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.  4 Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.  5 Behold, thou shalt call a nation that thou knowest not, and nations that knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the LORD thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for he hath glorified thee.  6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found , call ye upon him while he is near:  7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon .  8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.  9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.  10 For as the rain cometh down , and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud , that it may give seed to the sower , and bread to the eater :  11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please , and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.  12 For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.  13 Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the LORD for a name, for an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.

    Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come , and my righteousness to be revealed .  2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.  3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak , saying , The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say , Behold, I am a dry tree.  4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;  5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off .  6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;  7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.  8 The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith , Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.  9 All ye beasts of the field, come to devour , yea, all ye beasts in the forest.  10 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant , they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark ; sleeping , lying down , loving to slumber .  11 Yea, they are greedy  dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand : they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.  12 Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant.

    The righteous perisheth , and no man layeth it to heart: and merciful men are taken away , none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come.  2 He shall enter into peace: they shall rest in their beds, each one walking in his uprightness.  3 But draw near hither, ye sons of the sorceress , the seed of the adulterer and the whore .  4 Against whom do ye sport yourselves? against whom make ye a wide mouth, and draw out the tongue? are ye not children of transgression, a seed of falsehood,  5 Enflaming yourselves with idols under every green tree, slaying the children in the valleys under the clifts of the rocks?  6 Among the smooth stones of the stream is thy portion; they, they are thy lot: even to them hast thou poured a drink offering, thou hast offered a meat offering. Should I receive comfort in these?  7 Upon a lofty and high mountain hast thou set thy bed: even thither wentest thou up to offer sacrifice.  8 Behind the doors also and the posts hast thou set up thy remembrance: for thou hast discovered thyself to another than me, and art gone up ; thou hast enlarged thy bed, and made thee a covenant with them; thou lovedst their bed where thou sawest it.  9 And thou wentest to the king with ointment, and didst increase thy perfumes, and didst send thy messengers far off, and didst debase thyself even unto hell.  10 Thou art wearied in the greatness of thy way; yet saidst thou not, There is no hope : thou hast found the life of thine hand; therefore thou wast not grieved .  11 And of whom hast thou been afraid or feared , that thou hast lied , and hast not remembered me, nor laid it to thy heart? have not I held my peace even of old, and thou fearest me not?  12 I will declare thy righteousness, and thy works; for they shall not profit thee.  13 When thou criest , let thy companies deliver thee; but the wind shall carry them all away ; vanity shall take them: but he that putteth his trust in me shall possess the land, and shall inherit my holy mountain;  14 And shall say , Cast ye up , cast ye up , prepare the way, take up the stumblingblock out of the way of my people.  15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones .  16 For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth : for the spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made .  17 For the iniquity of his covetousness was I wroth , and smote him: I hid me, and was wroth , and he went on frowardly in the way of his heart.  18 I have seen his ways, and will heal him: I will lead him also, and restore comforts unto him and to his mourners.  19 I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far off, and to him that is near, saith the LORD; and I will heal him.  20 But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest , whose waters cast up mire and dirt.  21 There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

    Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.  2 Yet they seek me daily , and delight to know my ways, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God: they ask of me the ordinances of justice; they take delight in approaching to God.  3 Wherefore have we fasted , say they, and thou seest not? wherefore have we afflicted our soul, and thou takest no knowledge ? Behold, in the day of your fast ye find pleasure, and exact all your labours.  4 Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye shall not fast as ye do this day, to make your voice to be heard on high.  5 Is it such a fast that I have chosen ? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the LORD?  6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen ? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?  7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?  8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward .  9 Then shalt thou call , and the LORD shall answer ; thou shalt cry , and he shall say , Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;  10 And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noonday:  11 And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.  12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called , The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in .  13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable ; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:  14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

    Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened , that it cannot save ; neither his ear heavy , that it cannot hear :  2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear .  3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.  4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.  5 They hatch cockatrice' eggs, and weave the spider's web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth , and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.  6 Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands.  7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.  8 The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.  9 Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness.  10 We grope for the wall like the blind, and we grope as if we had no eyes: we stumble at noonday as in the night; we are in desolate places as dead men.  11 We roar all like bears, and mourn sore like doves: we look for judgment, but there is none; for salvation, but it is far off from us.  12 For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities, we know them;  13 In transgressing and lying against the LORD, and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood.  14 And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter .  15 Yea, truth faileth ; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey : and the LORD saw it, and it displeased  him that there was no judgment.  16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor : therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.  17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke.  18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay , fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies ; to the islands he will repay recompence.  19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.  20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.  21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.

    Arise , shine ; for thy light is come , and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.  2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.  3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.  4 Lift up thine eyes round about, and see : all they gather themselves together , they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side.  5 Then thou shalt see , and flow together , and thine heart shall fear , and be enlarged ; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.  6 The multitude of camels shall cover thee, the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah; all they from Sheba shall come : they shall bring gold and incense; and they shall shew forth the praises of the LORD.  7 All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory.  8 Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?  9 Surely the isles shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far, their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the LORD thy God, and to the Holy One of Israel, because he hath glorified thee.  10 And the sons of strangers shall build up thy walls, and their kings shall minister unto thee: for in my wrath I smote thee, but in my favour have I had mercy on thee.  11 Therefore thy gates shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor night; that men may bring unto thee the forces of the Gentiles, and that their kings may be brought .  12 For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish ; yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted .  13 The glory of Lebanon shall come unto thee, the fir tree, the pine tree, and the box together, to beautify the place of my sanctuary; and I will make the place of my feet glorious .  14 The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall call thee, The city of the LORD, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.  15 Whereas thou hast been forsaken and hated , so that no man went through thee, I will make thee an eternal excellency, a joy of many generations.  16 Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer , the mighty One of Jacob.  17 For brass I will bring gold, and for iron I will bring silver, and for wood brass, and for stones iron: I will also make thy officers peace, and thine exactors righteousness.  18 Violence shall no more be heard in thy land, wasting nor destruction within thy borders; but thou shalt call thy walls Salvation, and thy gates Praise.  19 The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light , and thy God thy glory.  20 Thy sun shall no more go down ; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself: for the LORD shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended .  21 Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified .  22 A little one shall become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation: I the LORD will hasten it in his time.

    The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted  , to proclaim liberty to the captives , and the opening of the prison to them that are bound ;  2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;  3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified .  4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations , and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations.  5 And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers.  6 But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.  7 For your shame ye shall have double; and for confusion they shall rejoice in their portion: therefore in their land they shall possess the double: everlasting joy shall be unto them.  8 For I the LORD love judgment, I hate robbery for burnt offering; and I will direct their work in truth, and I will make an everlasting covenant with them.  9 And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the LORD hath blessed .  10 I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.  11 For as the earth bringeth forth her bud, and as the garden causeth the things that are sown in it to spring forth ; so the Lord GOD will cause righteousness and praise to spring forth before all the nations.

    For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace , and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest , until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth .  2 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name , which the mouth of the LORD shall name.  3 Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem  in the hand of thy God.  4 Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken ; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah : for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married .  5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.  6 I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not silence,  7 And give him no rest, till he establish , and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.  8 The LORD hath sworn by his right hand, and by the arm of his strength, Surely I will no more give thy corn to be meat for thine enemies ; and the sons of the stranger shall not drink thy wine, for the which thou hast laboured :  9 But they that have gathered it shall eat it, and praise the LORD; and they that have brought it together shall drink it in the courts of my holiness.  10 Go through , go through the gates; prepare ye the way of the people; cast up , cast up the highway; gather out the stones; lift up a standard for the people.  11 Behold, the LORD hath proclaimed unto the end of the world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy salvation cometh ; behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.  12 And they shall call them, The holy people, The redeemed of the LORD: and thou shalt be called , Sought out , A city not forsaken.

    Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save .  2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?  3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.  4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come .  5 And I looked , and there was none to help ; and I wondered that there was none to uphold : therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.  6 And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth.  7 I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the LORD, and the praises of the LORD, according to all that the LORD hath bestowed on us, and the great goodness toward the house of Israel, which he hath bestowed on them according to his mercies, and according to the multitude of his lovingkindnesses.  8 For he said , Surely they are my people, children that will not lie : so he was their Saviour .  9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.  10 But they rebelled , and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy , and he fought against them.  11 Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him?  12 That led them by the right hand of Moses with his glorious arm, dividing the water before them, to make himself an everlasting name?  13 That led them through the deep, as an horse in the wilderness, that they should not stumble ?  14 As a beast goeth down into the valley, the Spirit of the LORD caused him to rest : so didst thou lead thy people, to make thyself a glorious name.  15 Look down from heaven, and behold from the habitation of thy holiness and of thy glory: where is thy zeal and thy strength, the sounding of thy bowels and of thy mercies toward me? are they restrained ?  16 Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant  of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer ; thy name is from everlasting.  17 O LORD, why hast thou made us to err from thy ways, and hardened our heart from thy fear? Return for thy servants' sake, the tribes of thine inheritance.  18 The people of thy holiness have possessed it but a little while: our adversaries have trodden down thy sanctuary.  19 We are thine: thou never barest rule over them; they were not called by thy name.

    Oh that thou wouldest rend the heavens, that thou wouldest come down , that the mountains might flow down at thy presence,  2 As when the melting fire burneth , the fire causeth the waters to boil , to make thy name known to thine adversaries, that the nations may tremble at thy presence!  3 When thou didst terrible things which we looked not for, thou camest down , the mountains flowed down at thy presence.  4 For since the beginning of the world men have not heard , nor perceived by the ear , neither hath the eye seen , O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.  5 Thou meetest him that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, those that remember thee in thy ways: behold, thou art wroth ; for we have sinned : in those is continuance, and we shall be saved .  6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away .  7 And there is none that calleth upon thy name, that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee: for thou hast hid thy face from us, and hast consumed us, because of our iniquities.  8 But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter ; and we all are the work of thy hand.  9 Be not wroth very sore, O LORD, neither remember iniquity for ever: behold, see , we beseech thee, we are all thy people.  10 Thy holy cities are a wilderness, Zion is a wilderness, Jerusalem a desolation.  11 Our holy and our beautiful house, where our fathers praised thee, is burned up with fire: and all our pleasant things are laid waste.  12 Wilt thou refrain thyself for these things, O LORD? wilt thou hold thy peace , and afflict us very sore?

    I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not: I said , Behold me, behold me, unto a nation that was not called by my name.  2 I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts;  3 A people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick;  4 Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments , which eat swine's flesh, and broth  of abominable things is in their vessels;  5 Which say , Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day.  6 Behold, it is written before me: I will not keep silence , but will recompense , even recompense into their bosom,  7 Your iniquities, and the iniquities of your fathers together, saith the LORD, which have burned incense upon the mountains, and blasphemed me upon the hills: therefore will I measure their former work into their bosom.  8 Thus saith the LORD, As the new wine is found in the cluster, and one saith , Destroy it not; for a blessing is in it: so will I do for my servants' sakes, that I may not destroy them all.  9 And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there.  10 And Sharon shall be a fold of flocks, and the valley of Achor a place for the herds to lie down in, for my people that have sought me.  11 But ye are they that forsake the LORD, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for that troop  , and that furnish the drink offering unto that number.  12 Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called , ye did not answer ; when I spake , ye did not hear ; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not.  13 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, my servants shall eat , but ye shall be hungry : behold, my servants shall drink , but ye shall be thirsty : behold, my servants shall rejoice , but ye shall be ashamed :  14 Behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart, but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit.  15 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:  16 That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten , and because they are hid from mine eyes.  17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered , nor come into mind.  18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create : for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.  19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.  20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed .  21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.  22 They shall not build , and another inhabit ; they shall not plant , and another eat : for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.  23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them.  24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call , I will answer ; and while they are yet speaking , I will hear .  25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.

    Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool  : where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?  2 For all those things hath mine hand made , and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look , even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.  3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck ; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.  4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called , none did answer ; when I spake , they did not hear : but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.  5 Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said , Let the LORD be glorified : but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed .  6 A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the LORD that rendereth recompence to his enemies .  7 Before she travailed , she brought forth ; before her pain came , she was delivered of a man child.  8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed , she brought forth her children.  9 Shall I bring to the birth , and not cause to bring forth ? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth , and shut the womb? saith thy God.  10 Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her: rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her:  11 That ye may suck , and be satisfied with the breasts of her consolations; that ye may milk out , and be delighted with the abundance of her glory.  12 For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream: then shall ye suck , ye shall be borne upon her sides, and be dandled upon her knees.  13 As one whom his mother comforteth , so will I comfort you; and ye shall be comforted in Jerusalem.  14 And when ye see this, your heart shall rejoice , and your bones shall flourish like an herb: and the hand of the LORD shall be known toward his servants, and his indignation toward his enemies .  15 For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.  16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many .  17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.  18 For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come , that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come , and see my glory.  19 And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles.  20 And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD.  21 And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the LORD.  22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make , shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain .  23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.  24 And they shall go forth , and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die , neither shall their fire be quenched ; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:54 pm

    Consider comparing and contrasting the following three KJV Lists:

    1. Genesis.
    2. Exodus.
    3. Leviticus.
    4. Numbers.
    5. Deuteronomy.
    6. Joshua.

    1. Job.
    2. Psalms.
    3. Proverbs.
    4. Ecclesiastes.
    5. Song of Songs.
    6. Isaiah.

    1. Matthew.
    2. Mark.
    3. Luke.
    4. John.
    5. Acts.
    6. Romans.

    The first group doesn't seem very "Christ-Like" but I don't think we know the real circumstances associated with these six books. The second and third groups are very "Christ-Like" but in very different ways. Is one "Christ" and the other "In Place of Christ"?? Again -- I don't think we know the real circumstances associated with these two-groups of six-books. Then -- when "Jesus" gets marketed like "Soap" -- things sort of get out of control. I think the PTB have a Dragon by the Tail -- and are afraid to let go. "Just let it go..." Just kidding -- or am  I?? BTW -- I'd still like to know if "Q" consists of 37 books??!!


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    Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.  4 Blessed are they that mourn : for they shall be comforted .  5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.  6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled .  7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy .  8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.  9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.  10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.  11 Blessed are ye , when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil  against you falsely , for my sake .  12 Rejoice , and be exceeding glad : for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.  13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour , wherewith shall it be salted ? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.  14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot  be hid .  15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.  16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.  17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy , but to fulfil .  18 For verily I say unto you, Till  heaven and earth pass , one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till  all be fulfilled .  19 Whosoever  therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.  20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed  the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.  21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill ; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:  22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say , Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.  23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;  24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way ; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.  25 Agree  with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.  26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.  27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery :  28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.  29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out , and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish , and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.  30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off , and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish , and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.  31 It hath been said  , Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:  32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery : and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery .  33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself , but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:  34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:  35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool  : neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.  36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.  37 But let your communication be , Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.  38 Ye have heard that it hath been said , An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:  39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.  40 And if any man will sue thee at the law , and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.  41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.  42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away .  43 Ye have heard that it hath been said , Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.  44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;  45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.  46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye ? do not even the publicans the same?  47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?  48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

    Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen  of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.  2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.  3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth :  4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly .  5 And when thou prayest , thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you , They have their reward.  6 But thou, when thou prayest , enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly .  7 But when ye pray , use not vain repetitions , as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.  8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.  9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.  10 Thy kingdom come . Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.  11 Give us this day our daily bread.  12 And forgive us our debts, as  we forgive our debtors.  13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.  14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:  15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.  16 Moreover when ye fast , be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast . Verily I say unto you , They have their reward.  17 But thou, when thou fastest , anoint thine head, and wash thy face;  18 That thou appear not unto men to fast , but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly .  19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt , and where thieves break through and steal :  20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt , and where thieves do not break through nor steal :  21 For where your treasure is , there will your heart be also.  22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.  23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!  24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot  serve God and mammon.  25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat , or what ye shall drink ; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on . Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?  26 Behold  the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap , nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?  27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?  28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow ; they toil not, neither do they spin :  29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.  30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is , and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?  31 Therefore take no thought , saying , What shall we eat ? or, What shall we drink ? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed ?  32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek :) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.  33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.  34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

    Judge not, that ye be not judged .  2 For with what judgment ye judge , ye shall be judged : and with what measure ye mete , it shall be measured to you again .  3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?  4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold , a beam is in thine own eye?  5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.  6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.  7 Ask , and it shall be given you; seek , and ye shall find ; knock , and it shall be opened unto you:  8 For every one that asketh receiveth ; and he that seeketh findeth ; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened .  9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give  him a stone?  10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give  him a serpent?  11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?  12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.  13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat  :  14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.  15 Beware  of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.  16 Ye shall know them by their fruits . Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?  17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.  18 A good tree cannot  bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.  19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down , and cast into the fire.  20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.  21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.  22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?  23 And then will I profess unto them , I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.  24 Therefore whosoever  heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:  25 And the rain descended , and the floods came , and the winds blew , and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.  26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:  27 And the rain descended , and the floods came , and the winds blew , and beat upon that house; and it fell : and great was the fall of it

    The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:  3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe , that observe and do ; but do not ye after their works: for they say , and do not.  4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.  5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men  : they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,  6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,  7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.  8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.  9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.  10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.  11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.  12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased ; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted .  13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in .  14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer : therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.  15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made , ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.  16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say , Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor !  17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?  18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever  sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty .  19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?  20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon .  21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.  22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon .  23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment , mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done , and not to leave the other undone .  24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.  25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.  26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.  27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.  28 Even so ye also  outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.  29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,  30 And say , If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.  31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.  32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.  33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?  34 Wherefore , behold , I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify ; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:  35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.  36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.  37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy  children together , even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!  38 Behold , your house is left unto you desolate.  39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth , till ye shall say , Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

    See ye the temple? Verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. Take heed that no man deceive you.  5 For many shall come in my name, saying , I am Christ; and shall deceive many.  6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled : for all these things must come to pass , but the end is not yet.  7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.  8 All  these are the beginning of sorrows.  9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.  10 And then shall many be offended , and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.  11 And many false prophets shall rise , and shall deceive many.  12 And because iniquity shall abound , the love of many shall wax cold .  13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved .  14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come .  15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth , let him understand :)  16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:  17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:  18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.  19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!  20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:  21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be .  22 And except those days should be shortened , there should no flesh be saved : but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened .  23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo , here is Christ, or there; believe it not.  24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.  25 Behold , I have told you before .  26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold , he is in the desert; go not forth : behold , he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.  27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be .  28 For wheresoever the carcase is , there will the eagles be gathered together .  29 Immediately  after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened , and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken :  30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn , and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.  31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other .  32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:  33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.  34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass , till  all these things be fulfilled .  35 Heaven and earth shall pass away , but my words shall not pass away .  36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.  37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be .  38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking , marrying and giving in marriage , until the day that Noe entered into the ark,  39 And knew not until the flood came , and took them all away ; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be .  40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken , and the other left .  41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken , and the other left .  42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come .  43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come , he would have watched , and would not have suffered his house to be broken up .  44 Therefore  be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh .  45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?  46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing .  47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods .  48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming ;  49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken ;  50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of ,  51 And shall cut him asunder , and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.  2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.  3 They that were foolish took their  lamps, and took no oil with them:  4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.  5 While the bridegroom tarried , they all slumbered and slept .  6 And at midnight there was a cry made , Behold , the bridegroom cometh ; go ye out to meet him.  7 Then all those virgins arose , and trimmed their lamps.  8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out .  9 But the wise answered , saying , Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell , and buy for yourselves.  10 And while they went to buy , the bridegroom came ; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut .  11 Afterward  came also the other virgins, saying , Lord, Lord, open to us.  12 But he answered and said , Verily I say unto you, I know you not.  13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh .  14 For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country , who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods .  15 And unto one he gave five talents , to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey .  16 Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents.  17 And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two.  18 But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money.  19 After a long time the lord of those servants cometh , and reckoneth  with them.  20 And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying , Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more.  21 His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.  22 He also that had received two talents came and said , Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gained two other talents beside them.  23 His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.  24 Then he which had received the one talent came and said , Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown , and gathering where thou hast not strawed :  25 And I was afraid , and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.  26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed :  27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.  28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.  29 For unto every one that hath shall be given , and he shall have abundance : but from him that hath not shall be taken away  even that which he hath .  30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.  31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:  32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:  33 And he shall set  the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.  34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come , ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:  35 For I was an hungred , and ye gave me meat : I was thirsty , and ye gave me drink : I was a stranger, and ye took me in :  36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick , and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.  37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying , Lord, when saw we thee an hungred , and fed thee? or thirsty , and gave thee drink ?  38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in ? or naked, and clothed thee?  39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?  40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.  41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed , into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:  42 For I was an hungred , and ye gave me no meat : I was thirsty , and ye gave me no drink :  43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in : naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.  44 Then shall they also answer him, saying , Lord, when saw we thee an hungred , or athirst , or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?  45 Then shall he answer them, saying , Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.  46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.  


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    Beware of Nuns with Guns!! BTW -- has anyone seen Late Nite Catechism?? I saw it in Seattle!! It was frighteningly-funny!! How much crime might there be if Nuns Ran the Prisons??!! It might be the End of Crime As We Know It!! Here is a rather sad and disillusioning link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events I'm finding the book The End of the World, A.D. 2133. (Silvestre) to be MOST Interesting!! You might need to go to the Library of Congress to read a copy. I have a duplicate-copy from the Library of Congress. Please consider a strict grammatical-historical interpretation of Job through Daniel. Then -- give the results of this study a science-fictional context. You might wish to re-watch the Babylon 5 movies and series to get started with this ambitious project. Consider Kitesh relative to Vala Mal Doran in Stargate SG-1. Consider the Pre-Human Delenn relative to the Human Delenn in Babylon 5. Imagine Delenn and Vala running the Vatican!! Consider the concept of Reincarnating Gods and Goddesses -- complete with a Name Shell-Game. Some of you REALLY need to get Sirius about researching the areas I've touched upon within this thread. I have the questions. You need to find the answers. This project might be tougher and nastier than you can possibly imagine. I'm trying to take a break from posting -- but I plan to study eschatology in the context of science-fiction -- and I might keep most of the results of this study to myself. This stuff is mostly too painful and disillusioning for me to talk about. I've hinted-at a lot of things -- but I haven't spelled-out the details. This sort of thing isn't for everyone -- to say the least. So many people have gone through hell thinking about the End of the World -- for hundreds and thousands of years. Many people have experienced a "Time of Trouble" before the "Time of Trouble". Eschatology is NOT a particularly pastoral subject -- and I think it has screwed-up millions (and even billions) of people -- perhaps by design. Here is an interesting video. I've heard other versions of this sort of thing. I stopped attending the SDA church -- in part because I smelled a rat (or was it a dead church-mouse?)! I think EVERYTHING (of any significance) is infiltrated and subverted -- and that most EVERYONE (of any prominence) is controlled and scripted. Perhaps it has to be this way. Damned if I know. I simply know that I am EXTREMELY disillusioned and despondent.


    This is the sort of post which makes my stomach churn. I could've just made a nice post with the Nun-Pictures -- but no -- I had to post some really divisive and inflammatory material. Why?? Because this is a Moot Spiritual War which is intended to deal with the most controversial material in a somewhat constructive manner. My posts tend to make everyone angry -- rather than just one side, or the other. Please remember that this thread is only the beginning. I wish to state (one more time) that I am everyone's friend -- and no one's friend. I have spoken of listening (in person) to a Black Jesuit from San Francisco giving a presentation to the Association of Adventist Forums at Pacific Union College -- and enjoying that presentation. I have spoken of wishing to spend some quality time with the Jesuits on Mt. Graham -- with their big binocular-telescope. I have spoken of attending literally dozens of Masses (including a Latin Mass) in various Catholic churches and cathedrals -- and enjoying them. But the Ancient Egyptian Deity told me that the Jesuits didn't like me -- and that "they" liked me on Phobos!! Honest!! I have posted materials within this thread which could be construed as being critical of Catholicism (in general) and the Jesuits (in particular). I have somewhat jokingly spoken of imagining myself as being a Renegade French Jesuit Organist!! I do NOT hate Catholics!! I simply think that this world is run in a harsh and sinister manner -- and that Roman Catholicism is at the center of a very-real War in Heaven and Earth. I have even grouped the Nazis, Masons, and Jesuits into basically one-group working for the same boss (but I have no idea if this is really the way things work). I am honestly mostly neutral in all of this -- and I simply wish to understand -- and positively-reinforce that which presently exists. Unfortunately, this seems to make me everyone's-enemy -- but I frankly don't give a damn. Once again -- I am on everyone's side -- and on no one's side. I mostly wish to just quietly research and reflect -- without making a great-big deal about anything. I've done a lot of modeling -- some of it borderline-blasphemous -- but I simply desire understanding and illumination. I am NOT seeking to win some sort of a superficial popularity contest -- or any contest, for that matter. I desire the truth -- and I wish to benefit all-concerned -- regardless of whether anyone likes it, or not.

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    orthodoxymoron wrote:The Old-Testament ends around 400 BC -- with approximately 400 years of Biblical-Silence. I've been wondering if the New-Testament is somehow a corrupted version of Suppressed Intertestamental Messianic Writings (which might resemble the writings found in Job through Daniel -- or at least commentaries and applications of those books)?! I realize this is heresy -- and I have little evidence to back-up this radical idea. I have suggested a very careful study of Job through Daniel -- prior to studying other parts of the Bible -- using these ten-books as an interpretive-key. What if the time extending from Alexander the Great (356-323 BC) -- right up to the present -- should be viewed with extreme-suspicion -- especially regarding how this world has been run?! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great What if all the religions which came into existence during this time-period were invented and promoted by the Same Hidden PTB?! This might hypothetically include Christianity (as we know it) -- Catholicism -- Islam -- Protestantism (in all of its forms) -- and virtually every religion and sect -- as franchises of One Big Business!! If true -- this would be upsetting and revolting to everyone -- wouldn't it?! Try reading Luke and James -- straight-through -- over and over -- comparing this study with the rest of the New-Testament. Then compare that same study with Job through Daniel. As I previously noted -- only Acts -- James -- and 3 John -- do NOT end with "Amen." Was someone trying to tell us something?? Further -- consider that Luke-Acts is really one book by the same author. Likewise -- one might consider First, Second, and Third John as being one book by the same author. If there is any validity to what I just said -- what would a study of the following books yield??

    1. Job.
    2. Psalms.
    3. Proverbs.
    4. Ecclesiastes.
    5. Song of Songs.
    6. Isaiah.
    7. Jeremiah.
    8. Lamentations.
    9. Ezekiel.
    10. Daniel.
    11. Luke.
    12. Acts.
    13. James.
    14. 1 John.
    15. 2 John.
    16. 3 John.

    Are these books consistent with the rest of the Bible?? If one studied these 16 books -- what doctrinal-framework might emerge?? Should a doctrinal-framework even be constructed?? Should these books simply be read (straight-through -- over and over)?? I am Not a Bible-Scholar. Not even close. I simply wonder as I wander. Once again -- I simply wish to research and reflect -- without getting angry and disruptive. I think we're in the process of finding-out some extremely upsetting and potentially-disruptive information. Being triumphalist in any of this would be a grave-error. Some say that the Catholic Church and the Pope are the Root of All Evil -- but I am suggesting the possibility of another layer of power, which even Rome is subservient to!! Groot is the Root of All Evil. Or perhaps the Mandrake is the Root of All Evil. What REALLY scares me is the possibility that the historical-madness and often ruthless and corrupt governance -- might've somehow been necessary and/or unavoidable (as insane as that sounds)!! Perhaps it has been somehow necessary for the Bad-Guys to run Earth, Inc. for thousands of years -- as revolting as that sounds!! Please consider ALL Possibilities before throwing stones!! Whenever I speculate about Solar System Governance -- I feel dirty and sick!! Perhaps there is No Good Way to Run a Solar System!! This thing might be tougher and nastier than we can possibly imagine!! Once again -- I have no idea what's true or false. I just take everything in -- and quietly move-on. What if one formulated a Mental and Spiritual Conceptualization of the Messiah based upon the following??

    1. Job through Daniel (KJV).
    2. The Bach B-Minor Mass.

    This wouldn't be Judaism or Christianity -- would it?? What would it be?? Just know that during my break I will be spending a lot of quality time with those two sources -- but, once again, this is simply an area of study, rather than being a line in the sand. What if Job through Daniel were given a completely universal-interpretation -- rather than being biased toward Judaism (ancient or modern)? What if the Bach B-Minor Mass were given a completely universal-interpretation -- rather than being biased toward Christianity or Catholicism?? Would these two sources make an effective Ecumenical Book of Common Prayer?? I often have NO Idea what people want and need. But whatever it is -- it probably has to be THEIR Idea!! Everyone seems to wish to rule (whether they admit it, or not). Can you even begin to imagine what would happen if the world were ruled by Jerusalem -- with absolute-obedience expected from everyone?? What if the Torah were the Law of the World?? Can you imagine the rioting and warfare??!! I still think that Someone-Significant REALLY wants the Battle of Armageddon!! Can't we all just get along?? Take a look at this!!



    After all of the madness I've considered -- you'd think I would've made up my mind by now -- wouldn't you?? However -- I feel as if I need to start over -- each and every day!! I will continue with the Modeling Modus Operandi I've been pursuing -- but this doesn't mean that I think I'm right -- and that everyone else is wrong. I am simply pursuing one particular approach to the madness. I'm not promoting this stuff -- nor do I intend to ever get on my "high-horse" and "take the show on the road". Just the opposite. The more I expose myself to the craziness -- the more I wish to become invisible and/or go underground -- and just disappear. I am highly embarrassed by this thread -- but I still think someone needed to do this sort of thing -- regardless of whether it benefitted anyone, or not. It hasn't made me a better person. Just the opposite. It has badly hamstrung me -- and horribly disillusioned and upset me. This thread is intended for Sirius-Researchers only. Unfortunately -- many in my local community seem to have been "alerted to my madness" by seemingly sinister and nefarious entities and agencies -- and this is MOST Unfortunate. I don't know if I am fundamentally good or bad -- on a soul-basis -- going way, way, way back -- but I seem to be mostly neutral and benign this time around. Who knows what I'll be like next-time (if there is a next-time)?! I frankly don't think we know much at all -- and I don't think we've seen anything yet. I'll simply continue to consider all the madness as being science-fiction. On the other hand -- I have NEVER lied about my personal experiences -- but I might've sometimes been mistaken -- or I might've exaggerated a bit. I have simply tried to model certain concepts and personalities -- which might've come perilously close to the dark-side, at times. I've tried to maintain neutrality and fairness -- toward the best of the best -- and the worst of the worst -- for better or worse -- I know not. Take a look at this!! It sort of makes you wonder -- doesn't it??!!



    Real or Fake??

    I got bored of Aliens and UFO's -- so I wrote the following drivel (relative to a listening-class): It is probably necessary to superimpose each component of Receive-Appreciate-Summarize-Ask (RASA) -- one on top of the other -- in order to properly apply Step 5 of "Julian's Five Steps" (from a TED lecture). One might Ask to Receive the desired data -- which must then be processed by Appreciating-Summarizing and Asking clarifying and inquisitive Questions. At various stages of this process -- the order of RASA might change -- and at times be all occurring at the same time -- with an equal emphasis. RASA somewhat mirrors the Scientific-Method -- wherein one Proposes a Hypothesis -- which simultaneously Asks and Answers a Question. Data is then gathered through Asking and Answering further questions -- which are pertinent to the Original Question and Answer. Ultimately, the Gathered Data is Summarized -- Conclusions are Reached -- and the Original Question and Answer is Verified or Nullified. The overall appearance and impression one observes in others -- and which one presents to others -- which might include facial-expression -- body-language -- clothing -- walking speed and style -- are Integral-Aspects of Non-Verbal Communication. Ideally -- one might Look-Sharp -- Act-Sharp -- and Be-Sharp -- with deviations from this Norm telling various stories. Experience would be determinative regarding this methodology -- and Contextual-Superimposition might play a significant role in the evaluation of a spectrum of non-verbal communication.
    enemyofNWO wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:I'm pretty much in a state of despair. No matter who the "Real Bad Guys" are -- if they are removed -- there are undoubtedly some "Really Bad Guys" waiting to take-over. "Real Nice Guys" might not survive for five-minutes at the "Top of the Pyramid". Traditional-Religions might often be bottomless-pits of corruption and confusion -- but atheism, agnosticism, psychology, philosophy, politics, business, law, entertainment, etc. are simply different bottomless-pits of corruption and confusion. What if no one is genuinely good?? If powerless "Good-Guys" are placed in positions of power -- they might quickly turn into "Bad-Guys". We might be screwed -- no matter what we do (or don't do). We might've gotten our butts kicked in an Ancient Star War -- with the Victors ruling Humanity from the Shadows for Thousands of Years. Who Knows?? How can we REALLY know anything regarding history and how things really work?? I'll "Fight the Good Fight" -- but I'm not expecting "Paradise or Utopia" anytime soon...
    Remember that " Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely " . There are no check and balances to keep in line the ones at the very top .  In a previous post your wrote : quote "with approximately 400 years of Biblical-Silence. I've been wondering if the New-Testament is somehow a corrupted version of Suppressed Intertestamental Messianic Writings". I bet that corruption, misinterpretation and false translations are  inbuilt in any translated ancient text. How could you otherwise explain that an important rabbi threatened DR Strange about the revelations of the Dead Sea scrolls  ( see above videos ) ?  The biggest secret kept from the " believers " is the " flying saucers "  and alien interventions in human affairs .  The Flying saucer became " the holy Spirit " and the  Elohim became a singular entity instead of referring to a group of people . Because the church had control of the translations , then who didn't translate in an approved way ( nothing to do with the truth and accuracy ) got the marching orders .  The ancient text were used as property not of humanity but of a private  group of people that had in mind to enslave the world . The search for total control of the population is still going on .  
    orthodoxymoron wrote:I tend to agree. As I irreverently suggested before -- what if the Holy-Spirit might be the Queen of Heaven in a Flying-Saucer?? I don't mean to be mean. I'm just trying to make the insane make-sense...
    B.B.Baghor wrote:
    Are you familiar with the story of the 2 monks?

    "Two monks were on a pilgrimage and one day, came to the shore of a river, finding a woman in search
    for a way to cross the water. The monks weren't allowed, by their superiors, to touch a woman. One of
    the monks, being of a scholarly nature and helpful, chose to sort of set this rule aside and obey to the
    rule of his superiors and their belief, to be of service. He offered her, to carry her across on his back.
    She agreed with joy.

    Once on the other side, after having left the woman behind, on the shore, the two monks continued their
    journey. After about 3 hours, the monk who carried the woman, said to his companion. "You know, I wasn't
    supposed to do that" "What do you mean?" asked his companion. "Well" answered the other monk "The rules
    forbid me to touch a woman. I'm troubled by having done it". His companion answered "Oh, now I know what
    you mean, I've already completely forgotten about that woman and the incident. You still carry her on your back
    and make yourself suffer from it".
    enemyofNWO wrote: Thanks for the parable . I imagine that  it is taken from a chapter of the bible not published  yet. I hope your writing is proceeding OK .  Are you defensive about your religion? Does it upset you, perhaps  that ,in a discussion,   we revealed facts about  the Sacred COW called  Christianity ?  Please don't take personally discussions in a forum . I can assure you also that I don't carry anyone on my back and I don't have dead weight to expel . I am who I am and I accept it . Do you do anything to screw the system that oppresses us all ? I do , for dozens of years we have had the secret services of Europe and Australia on our back ..... they have spent millions of dollars , performed incredible number of operations and Psy -ops with no result . So we have something to be proud off . If only there were more people like us who work to screw the system and try to open the eyes of the ones that keep theirs wide shut , the system would collapse sooner .....

    Please don't be upset ,   we ,not always , read pleasant material . Unfortunately the world is not a pleasant place , it is a mine field ! who am I ?  I am one of millions that realized that the catholic religion is a fraud ,  after over 60 years since I woke up about it  I am still discovering despicable acts perpetrated by that criminal organization . I live in catholic country where the malefic presence of catholicism is omnipresent so i might  be rabid when dealing with the subject . I see also the pervasive influence of this cancerous religion on the politics and the society . There seem to be no end to the criminality of the church . They have the brass face to send missionary to regions  of the third world to try to convert who doesn't need to be . I don't think that the discussions with Otho are futile ,this subject is very interesting  and I think there is  some chance that  some of the discussion might influence, in a positive way,  some readers with an open mind .  Ortho ,as the rest of us , is on a personal journey and every person has his/her own interpretation of  what is searching and what is looking for .    Did you like the videos linked in post No 2   and 3 ? They are  eyes opener don't you agree ? Be well !
    orthodoxymoron wrote:In "The Exercise of Vital Powers" from the 4th season of Babylon 5 (which is depicted as being in the year 2261 A.D.) -- the statement was made that "Russia [had transitions of power] in 1917 and 2013". Mind you -- this episode was made in 1997. The Pope resigned in 2013 -- and a Jesuit became the new Pope. In "The Keys of This Blood" Malachi Martin writes about a three-way battle for control of the New World Order -- between Russia, the Vatican, and the United States. The book was published in 1990. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keys_of_This_Blood What if Russia had a lot to do with the changing of the guard in Rome?? Supposedly -- the US and Russia might be headed for some sort of conflict. That same episode of Babylon 5 speaks of the French coming to power in 2112 A.D. I have a rare book titled The End of the World, A.D. 2133. Pope Benedict seemed a bit bitter when he spoke of "God Sleeping". I have irreverently joked that "God was just tired of all the bullshit!" All of this might not be significant -- but I find it somewhat interesting.


    enemyofNWO wrote:Thanks Ortho for the links ! I  just watched the video of Malachi Martin  posted above . There is a lot of information that is very relevant   even today .  But Martin ideas that the Pope John Paul would  unite the world on moral and ethical grounds  did not happen and it is very unlikely it will in the future ,John Paul died and things got worse . Since then the church is now associated universally with pedofilia and corruption. According to Martin already  in1990 the church had to pay 95 million dollars in compensation to children victims of sexual abuse . Martin said that the Church has the most efficient secret services in the world   . How do they do it ? The confession !  of course ! Just as a test try to confess that you know of a fictitious person that wants to bump off the pope ……… See how long it takes for the police to knock at you door ? Malachi said that the church has been penetrated by the Masons.   This happened a long time ago . The picture below is of Trieste where I live  near the palace of the Questore ( the chief of Police ) there is a church and above the door there is a date in roman numerals . The picture below is taken from my e-book chapter 19 .
    orthodoxymoron wrote:I've been thinking of the whole solar system as being one big business (in good and bad ways). The Catholic Church might be near the top of the pyramid -- but I keep thinking there's at least one or two layers of power beyond Rome (and probably not in good ways). But really -- the universe might have literally billions of star-wars occurring simultaneously -- from antiquity to modernity. How things are out-there probably has a lot to do with why things are the way they are on Earth. Most of this is speculation -- but there is some substance to it -- and it frankly scares the hell out of me. Without hearing anyone say it -- one day I thought about the possibility of bugged-confessionals -- and it freaked me out!! I just assume that ANYTHING I say is somehow recorded. That might be overly paranoid -- but this is reflective of Christian-Theology (and even Santa-Claus coming to town)!! I assume that all agencies are somehow interconnected (for better or worse). A lot of this is speculation -- but I keep hearing stories...
    orthodoxymoron wrote:What is the relationship (if any) between Dragons -- Draconian-Reptilians -- Generic-Reptilians -- Tall Long-Nosed Greys -- Small-Greys -- Generic-Hybrids -- Dragonized-Humans -- Nephilim -- Human-Giants -- Hybrid-Giants -- Reptilian-Giants -- Normal-Humans -- Angels -- Demons -- God -- Satan -- Demigods -- et al?? I might've added a couple of non-existent categories (or I might've missed someone) -- but you probably get my question. This whole-thing always seems to be an illusive shell-game. "Top" People probably get clear and concise briefings and documents -- but "We the Peons" must wade through "Endless Bullshit". I still don't know if most of the above really exist -- so I just play a stupid science-fiction game -- to attempt to understand a phenomenon which might not even exist. Strange-Beings could originate from Distant-Galaxies -- or they could be Renegade-Creations aka Forbidden-Abominations -- from Secret-Laboratories within this solar system. Who Knows?? How might Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer relate to all of this?? Does Lucifer really exist -- or is Lucifer simply the dark-side of Gabriel and/or Michael?? Also -- is Azazel an actual Angel and/or Demon -- or is Azazel simply a Historical and Eschatological Scapegoat?? Is the Creator of Humanity considered to be "Azazel"?? Once again -- I have a very difficult time getting into the Thuban material. I'm presently taking a closer look at Biblical-Prophecy in the context of Science-Fiction. I am very-wary of Prophecy -- but I've recently felt the need to understand Job through Daniel - relative to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John -- with unconventional approaches. I always feel as if I'm playing with burning-magnesium when I consider this madness -- and a lot of it really does seem to be madness (on purpose, in many ways). What do you think about the 2300 days-years of Daniel 8:14 originating around 168 BC -- and terminating around 2133 AD?? Does Humanity have a future "As-Is" -- or will we be terminated and/or turned into various sorts of hybrids (which might not resemble humanity as we know it)?? Was the Historical Jesus Christ really the Messiah of the Psalms and Isaiah -- or is there a Hidden Historical Messiah?? This sort of thing is nearly impossible to really know about with any certainty. I'm almost to the point of completely walking away from ALL of the stuff contained within this website -- and just go back to watching television. I might even start drinking-beer and going to football-games and baseball-games. Perhaps I should forget about ethics and truth -- and live a life of skirt-chasing and riotous-living. I actually think I might rejoin the "Rat-Race" because the Rats are Winning...

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    Post  B.B.Baghor Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:21 pm

    Quote from former post: (your words are in blue)
    "Honestly, ortho, comments on your saying the same things over and over, to me that's not an accusation. When I share that opinion, it's a comment on how it's perceived by me. For some reason you seem to be fixed on that judgment, of being accused, so that you feel compelled to repeat your message, in order to prove you're right or to make clear what it is you're after. That's a possible checkmate position, to me.

    So -- is this a King and Queen War-Game?? I often feel like a Completely Ignorant Pawn!! Please remember that I am honestly modeling concepts and personalities which do NOT reflect who I am in "real-life". I might share some of the inclinations and biases -- but I don't behave like this in everyday life. What scares me is that the ease with which I model on this thread leads me to wonder if I might've been somewhat like this in previous lives. I'm honestly NOT channeling some nefarious entity. I don't do anything even remotely creepy. I might be channeling myself. Was it Lionhawk who spoke of channeling themselves?? I can't quite remember -- but I know it was someone on this forum who is no longer posting. Each of my posts are the same -- only different -- reflecting the concept of "Theme and Variations". I honestly keep feeling as though I was somehow set-up in this incarnation -- where every behavior and editorial-slant would be somehow used against me -- with the general theme of Build Them Up -- and Knock Them Down.

    It's your reaction, to feel an accusation and you seem stuck in it. You're as much trying to live up to expectations of your audience as dictating your rules how the audience should listen. I think that you're in one of the most patient and kind fora here, with many members, including me, communicating with you in an open-minded way and with good intentions.

    I can't dictate Rules of Listening. What Would Julian Treasure Say?? I can't even get others to listen. Period. This is a highly tolerant forum -- but I often feel as if I am silently being fed enough rope to hang myself (which I seem to be effectively and efficiently doing each and every day). I seem to be somehow protected -- which I continue to destroy myself. I guess I keep thinking that if I am never built-up -- it is more difficult to knock me down. This whole thing is frankly a Most Dangerous Game to me. It's so sad -- that it's almost funny... "


    Thank you, ortho, I think that in the last part of the quote here, you've given me more explanation by commenting on yourself. It's not "game over" yet. I give up scratch trying, or rather, I stop jumping from refraining to making attempts. It's probably just what the doctor orders. For screech owls peace of brains Wink Believe me, ortho, it's never with bad feelings, when I stop trying. Or even start again Cheerful After all, it's me asking and investigating. You may not be interested at all, to be understood when coming from those modeling persona. Still, it keeps puzzling me somehow: your shouting
    "Can you hear me?"

    I'm up against something completely unknown, in this encounter with The US of the SS-Final Cut. Which may well be put to rest, by me. Funny, isn't it? It seems to be that you're completely happy with how this thread of yours is presented, with your modeling of persona of all sorts, not being the same in daily life. Isn't it confusing to live that way? Uhhhmmm, I will stop trying, sorry.

    For the record, not for 1 minute I see you channeling some nefarious entity, nor do I feel negative intentions in this thread, ortho. Maybe you're channeling fragments of your own mind's content, the dwellings of a huge amount of subjects and pondering. It's only for better understanding and not for debunking, that I post the way I post. My humour may seem to do that, but it's not my goal. Besides, my efforts show genuine interest.

    An image appears in my mind, of the persona director of this/your sort of sci fi movie script "close encounters of a neverending kind". Which may well
    be the essence of your own soul. Or all souls. It's clear to me that I should stop trying to "get it" Did I say this? Sounds like echoing..... Lmfao
    Thanks for an unusual experience in this highly unusual playground, ortho!
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    Thank-you B.B. This thread is a reposting-project -- and my posts might not be directed directly to you. The "Can You Hear Me Now??" was posted a couple of years ago. In some ways, it still applies -- but in some ways, it does not. I apologize for the resulting disrespect toward you. This was not originally intended -- but then I reproduced that message (when I shouldn't have). I've modified the previous posts -- but I'm not sure if the changes made things better or worse. Sometimes I think I purposely get myself into trouble -- just as some sort of a strange challenge. I don't know why I play this strange-game. If a famous author or script-writer makes millions of dollars creating imaginary-characters -- they are featured on the cover of Variety. But I am viewed with suspicion and anger when I do it for free!! What's up with that??!! I am really wondering if this thing is presently out of the hands of just about everyone?? I'm wondering if a certain "someone" needed to interact with a secret-computer to call the whole thing off -- and that didn't fracking-happen -- so now an updated (and much meaner) HAL is running everything (into the ground, perhaps?)! Once upon a time -- Dr. Robert H. Schuller exclaimed "If I can't have them -- nobody can!!" I can't remember the context -- but those bold words stuck in my mind. What if no-one is presently running this solar system?? Last night -- my computer froze -- and displayed some sort of a "Violation" message -- shut-down -- restarted -- and began installing unscheduled "updates". After 20 minutes (or so) -- I was informed that the "updates" failed (or something to that effect) -- and that the "changes" were being removed. This took at least one-hour -- with no attempt to reinstall the "updates". What the hell happened?? I probably don't wish to know. An Individual of Interest asked me about "Net Neutrality" relative to some sort of a "Takeover" with some sense of urgency. What if -- at some point -- the fancy technology and weaponry will ALL be under the control of a Central-Computer -- and beyond the control of Humanity -- Divinity -- Angels -- Demons -- Aliens -- et al??!! What if a Central-Computer will administer the Cleansing of the Sanctuary -- which might include Investigative and Executive Judgments -- potentially terminating in 2133 AD??!! I'm being more serious than you can imagine -- and it's scaring the hell out of me. Honest. Why did HAL say they were "afraid"?? Was that a subtle clue that computers can be incarnated by some sorts of souls?? What if the God of This World is inextricably linked to a Supercomputer-Network??!! I'm being more serious than you can imagine -- and it's scaring the hell out of me. Honest.

    Consider the Large Hadron Collider. There's something creepy about the whole particle-accelerator phenomenon. I discussed the Loma Linda University Proton-Accelerator with the Ancient Egyptian Deity -- but I don't want to talk about it. What Would James Slater Say?? Sherry Shriner said some alarming things about the LHC in her March 2 and 9 (2015) shows. She seems to cough and choke when she says things which are especially revealing -- and she did a lot of coughing and choking in those shows. It's as if "they" have her on some sort of a leash -- and she claims "they" are making her cough and choke. I tend to think there's something to that -- believe it, or not. She thinks that the LHC will open up some sort of a portal, which will bring in demonic-beings to inflict who-knows-what upon Earth and Humanity. http://sherrytalkradio.com/ It's interesting to me that the movie Angels and Demons featured the LHC. BTW -- didn't timetotelltheworld on the old Project Avalon go on and on about Accelerators on top of Post Offices (or something like that)?? I tried to converse with them -- but it was rather difficult -- as they seemed to be highly distraught. Two of my favorite sci-fi shows -- Stargate SG-1 and Babylon 5 -- feature the stargate-phenomenon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider I have a HUGE number of posts to repost -- but I feel as if I am facing yet another brutal gang of facts and fantasy. Perhaps watching Jupiter Ascending pushed me over the edge. I don't know. Something did. The Jupiter Ascending review video below has a lot of bad-language in it -- but I included it because it shows a lot of scenes from the movie -- and is somewhat funny. I'm going to try to take a break (one more time). Some say that something is a brewing -- but "they" say that year after year after year -- so who knows?? What if this solar system is in "Fail-Safe" mode?? I continue to think that things are becoming more and more dangerous -- regardless of personal peace and prosperity. I tend to think that the technology is either "out of control" or in the "worst of hands". BTW -- I would love to learn what Alex Collier REALLY knows about Jesus and the Angels!!! He seemed to know a lot -- and he seemed to be very reluctant to talk about it. I've hinted at this and that -- but I know next to nothing (with any certainty). Namaste and Godspeed.

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    I'm sensing that most of us are moving toward being secret-agent types -- because the secret stuff isn't so secret -- and because we are being listened-to and watched (especially when we frequent forums such as this one). I feel as if I've screwed myself by researching and posting on the internet -- while simultaneously going downhill on the home-front. I feel as if this is irreversible. I wonder if there is a happy-ending to all of this?? The formerly secret stuff seems to be a bottomless-pit of problems and trouble. Anyway -- our paranoia regarding a world on the brink of who knows what -- combined with being watched -- probably makes us suspicious of those around us. "Is that a tall-gray alien I just had coffee with??" "Are CIA agents living next-door to me??" "Is the President a chip-implanted and highly-programmed android-hybrid??" "Am I being supernaturally observed 24/7??" You get the point. Our Brave New World might be sort of fun with all the gadgets and technology -- but I feel a cold-chill in connection with everything I'm seeing and sensing. At some point -- I suspect that we will wake-up to a very unpleasant reality -- but I'm not sure what that will be. I'm frankly shutting-down. My disillusionment and apprehension are becoming chronic and debilitating. I'm honestly trying to walk away from most of what we discuss. Things are moving too quickly -- and it's difficult to build upon foundations which might be swept away the day after tomorrow. I sort of enjoy researching and speculating -- but it seems to not be a constructive and productive activity. I thought I was helping -- but I don't think so anymore. My renewed-tolerance and rejoining the mainstream will probably mean that I just don't give a damn anymore -- but it will be nice to not be a threat anymore. Caring and Helping are SO Overrated. What am I saying?? One more time -- a couple of Individuals of Interest have strongly hinted that I am somehow highly-intelligent -- but I am NOT intelligent in this particular incarnation -- which leads me to wonder about previous incarnations (with fear and trembling). I suspect some things about myself that I do NOT wish to discuss (publicly or privately). In a sense -- I really don't care -- but in another sense -- I might be Forced to Care about who I really am -- going way, way, way back. It might NOT be a pretty picture -- and I'm actually expecting the worst. It has been hinted that I am somehow "Satan" and/or "Azazel" -- but the shoe certainly does NOT seem to fit in this incarnation. What if -- in antiquity (and possibly in modernity) -- it was (and is) impossible to be "High-Ranking" and "Highly-Ethical" at the same time?? What if Macro-Administration involves being a Bad@$$ as part of the territory?? That frankly would NOT surprise me -- and it scares the hell out of me. It really does. What if there is some truth to Guardians of the Galaxy and Jupiter Ascending??!! That wouldn't surprise me -- and it frightens me.
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    I'm seriously considering selling my house and becoming more mobile. I think I'd like to spend more time in the mountains. Anyway -- here's something you might find interesting. Pope Francis thinks he might only be the Pope for another three years! http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/14/world/europe/pope-francis-predicts-his-papacy-will-be-brief.html?_r=0 I wonder. Is the Vatican being strong-armed?? I obviously wish for things to be better -- but I keep worrying about the Vatican being controlled by forces which are anything but ethical and loving. Are "they" preparing the Vatican and the World for the "Antichrist"?? Are Earth and Humanity being set-up for Armageddon and a Final-Jihad?? I keep thinking that the "Antichrist" has been running Earth Incorporated for thousands of years -- but what do I know?? Please consider the possibility of the Time of the End extending from 2013 AD to 2133 AD. Please attempt to read End of the World, A.D. 2133 (Silvestre). This book is quite rare -- and was published by Vantage Press in 1985. I am fascinated by the time-elements -- but I am horrified by the final chapters. I am thinking in terms of Investigative and Executive Judgments occurring between 2013 AD and 2133 AD. I'm a Law and Order kind of guy -- rather than a Fire and Brimstone sort of person. I'm presently considering Eschatology in a Science-Fictional Context -- even though I really hate that sort of thing. Eschatology seems to be an Ominous Ball and Chain -- Holding Humanity Back for Thousands of Years -- but what do I know?? I get the feeling that Humanity (or the souls incarnating human-beings) made a Significant-Someone EXTREMELY-ANGRY Thousands of Years Ago. I don't think we have ANY idea what's REALLY gone-on in this solar system -- going way, way, way back -- but what do I know??

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    ROME — On the second anniversary of the start of his papacy, Pope Francis announced that the Roman Catholic Church would mark an extraordinary Holy Year in December, though he might not be celebrating many more anniversaries in the future.

    “I have the feeling that my pontificate will be brief — four or five years; I do not know, even two or three,” he predicted in an interview with a Mexican broadcaster. “Two have already passed. It is a somewhat vague sensation,” the pope said, reiterating his belief that “the Lord has placed me here for a short time, and nothing more.”

    Leaving open the possibility that he might follow in the footsteps of his predecessor, Benedict XVI, who became the first pope to step down in 600 years when he did so in 2013, the pope said Benedict “should not be considered an exception, but an institution.”

    “Maybe he will be the only one for a long time, maybe he will not be the only one,” said the pope, 78, adding that Benedict opened an “institutional door.”

    The chatty interview with Mexico’s Televisa News was in keeping with Francis’s outgoing manner and personal touch — from the cold-calls to faithful who write to him sharing their sorrows, to his off-the-cuff avuncular advice. His predecessors dispensed their personal musings sparely, and rarely through the mainstream media.

    In the interview, Francis confessed that what he missed most since becoming pontiff was being able to “go to a pizzeria for a pizza without anyone recognizing me.”

    The pope also discussed global trends in migration, and the plight of refugees fleeing poverty, hunger and wars. He also cited reasons people are abandoning the Catholic Church, including “disastrous” homilies that “do not reach the heart.” The interview also included comments about the contentious reform of the church’s Roman bureaucracy and of the shame of the sexual abuse of minors by priests.

    Vatican Radio posted a translated transcript of the Spanish-language interview.

    In an announcement at a ceremony in St. Peter’s Basilica on Friday, the pope said the church would celebrate a Holy Year, summoning pilgrims to Rome and other religious sites, that would commence on Dec. 8 and conclude on Nov. 20, 2016. The opening of the Holy Year, or Jubilee, as it is also known, coincides with the 50th anniversary of the closing of the Second Vatican Council, the gathering of bishops that set the church’s course for the future.

    This will be the 29th Holy Year since the practice began in 1300. They usually take place every 25 years.


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    Post  enemyofNWO Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:19 am

    Ortho,

    Have a look at this video , it might be of interest to you

    The Lie NASA Told - The Imminent Demise of the NWO
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:36 pm

    Thank-you eNWO. That lady narrator in the video sounds a lot like Dr. Josephine Mataros in the "Termination" episode of Earth: Final Conflict. One more time -- one dark night, a mysterious "someone" looked me in the eye, and said "I Am RA". Why me?? Was it that "Amen Ra" thread I created (with the help of Brook)?? on the original Project Avalon?? Or were we ancient-relatives and/or ancient-rivals -- going way, way, way back?? I don't know -- but I have some theories I don't want to talk about. What Would Anchor Say?? What Would Anubis Do?? I'm going away for a while. I've had enough. I'm really not expecting the BS to end. We are simply finding out about a lot of the hidden BS. Some of the BS will probably be removed -- while new BS is introduced. In a sense -- nothing will probably change -- while everything changes. I continue to ask "What if There is No Good Way to Run a Solar System???" What if Purgatory Incorporated is as good as it gets?? Is Paradise Incorporated an Impossible Dream?? I'll continue to research -- but I'm probably not going to talk about it. It hurts too much. I might finish my reposting project -- but I think I'm "over the hill" regarding researching the madness. Others will have to do the heavy-lifting. I think that last undisclosed straw broke my back. Namaste and Godspeed.
    enemyofNWO wrote:Ortho,

    Have a look at this video, it might be of interest to you.

    The Lie NASA Told - The Imminent Demise of the NWO
    I'm sure you've heard the story about the two hikers being chased by a bear. One of the hikers took off his hiking-boots and put on his running-shoes. The second hiker shouted, "you still won't be able to outrun the bear!" The first hiker replied, "I don't have to outrun the bear! I just have to outrun YOU!!!" One would have to really get cracking to outrun the Kraken!!!

    Do you really want me to be a high-technology warrior and business bad@ss???!!! Do you want me to create WMD's which vaporize solar systems with the click of a mouse???!!! Do you want me to create computers and robotics which render ALL Life Obsolete???!!! How do you know I haven't already done so in another life in another solar system???!!! We might all be surprised!!! I think I've been way too nice -- way too general -- and that I should be more like a General!!! When Golda Meir was asked which two U.S. Generals she would choose, she replied "General Motors and General Electric!!"

    Appearances and Winning are Everything -- and the Bottom-Line is the Bottom-Line!!! Right??!! Is that line of thinking driving us to the brink of extinction?? I think this whole thing might hang on how we define and apply what I just said. I still think this solar system is a corrupted version of an idealistic conceptualization. Be careful NOT to throw away the baby with the bathwater!!

    Thank-you Aquaries1111. Again, I am modeling a particular hypothesis in a somewhat science-fictional manner. Reincarnation and Archangels are the wild-cards in all of this. Vala Mal Doran in 'Stargate SG-1' is a person of interest -- as is Anna in 'V'. The essence of this thread is deeper and nuttier than you might think -- and it's definitely not for everyone -- which is why I'm not pushing this sort of thing anywhere other than this little web-site -- although if it turns out to be mostly true -- it will turn this solar system upside-down and inside-out. That video was wild. Reality and Fantasy are related -- and the line between them is somewhat blurred. I often wonder if I'll eventually be chased like that guy!! I have no idea who I might be angering with this thread. I mean no harm -- but that doesn't mean that I'm doing no harm. In some ways I feel as if I'm in a cold-war with the Dracs, Greys, and Humans -- but in very different ways. What I think about is much more intense than what I post. Bill Cooper is a helpful reference-point. He's sort of a home-base for me. I like to combine the work of Bill Cooper, Alex Collier, Jim Marrs, Eric Jon Phelps, Joseph Farrell, Malachi Martin, Richard Hoagland, Branton, and others. Again, I think I'm just getting my feet wet, and just scratching the surface. If you continue on this journey, things could get quite rough and upsetting. I'm preparing myself for just about anything -- but I wish I had really gotten with it many years ago, when I attended a couple of Whole Life Expos in Southern California. On the other hand, I might've gotten involved in a lot of New Age BS -- and who knows what else. I spent a lot of time listening to Rush Limbaugh (and other conservative hosts) along with Art Bell (and others) -- while doing a lot of thinking and reflecting. Unfortunately, none of this has seemed to do me, or anyone else, much good. But still I press forward into who knows what realms of madness. But seriously, I am trying to get at the essence of what is wrong with the solar system and with the human race. The sweep of history is NOT a pretty-picture. What's wrong with this picture???
    Aquaries1111 wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:I presently think that Alex Jones should be included in a broad and balanced pursuit of forbidden knowledge. I can only listen to a couple of shows a month. I can only take so much negativity. I agree with most of what Alex and his guests say -- but my style and modus operandi is very different -- at least for now. I feel very guilty when I listen to Alex. He has ten times the brains and guts I have. I'm trying to be on the sides of the Powers-That-Be -- and the Conspiracy-Theorist-Recalcitrant-Malcontents. I suppose this causes me to be somewhat wishy-washy -- but this will continue to be my path into the forseeable future. I feel as if I Need to be Able to Properly Deal with EVERYONE and EVERYTHING -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES AT ANY TIME. Anyway, the least I can do regarding Alex Jones is to post something each day concerning his show. I'll mostly just copy and paste the show description from www.prisonplanet.com

    March 14 -- Alex talks with Roman Yampolskiy, a computer scientist at the University of Louisville in Kentucky, who recently wrote an article about the danger to humanity from AI and super-intelligent computers. Mr. Yampolskiy is trained in the fields of programming, forensics, biometrics and artificial intelligence. Alex also covers the latest on the Kony 2012 propaganda push, the prospect of the TSA being evicted from the nation's airports, and the PR problem for Obama's war effort following the arrest of a soldier in Afghanistan who is charged with killing 16 civilians. Alex also covers other important news of the day and takes your calls.

    March 15 -- On the Thursday, March 15 edition of the Alex Jones Show, Alex talks in-studio with Edward T. Haslam, a former advertising music director and author of Dr. Mary's Monkey, a book that covers the 1964 murder of a nationally known cancer researcher and uncovers medical professionals enmeshed in covert government operations over the course of three decades. Mr. Haslam's book is available at the Infowars Store. Additional guests include former newspaper journalist and New York Times best-selling author Jim Marrs, author of The Trillion-Dollar Conspiracy: How the New World Order, Man-Made Diseases, and Zombie Banks Are Destroying America. Alex talks with former federal prosecutor and a former member of the United States House of Representatives, Bob Barr. Mr. Barr was the Libertarian Party nominee for president in the 2008 election.

    March 16 -- On the Friday, March 16 edition of the Alex Jones Show, Alex talks with Sanyu, the Ugandan woman behind the “Kony 2012 Video is Misleading” video on YouTube that has gone viral with over 2 million views since March 7. Alex also talks with Infowars.com editor and journalist Patrick Henningsen in-studio. Alex covers the latest news, including more bad news about the economy with gasoline prices leading the charge as the cost of living and inflation move upward despite rosy predictions of recovery by the government. Alex also takes your calls.

    Bye Bye Alex
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Aquaries1111. I've seen that clip before, but I'll watch it again. I also heard a Cooper/Jones interview where Cooper was somewhat testy toward Jones. I just take everything in. Then I pick and choose. I don't hitch myself to anyone in particular. I suspect that anyone who is anyone -- even in the esoteric and conspiracy realms -- are compromised, infiltrated, and subverted -- in various ways, and to various extents. I think this is a very messy game. I don't think in terms of black and white. I like Bill Cooper and Alex Jones -- but in very different ways. I especially like the Alex Jones documentaries and interviews. I was going to keep this thread updated on a daily basis -- but then I had computer problems -- and I guess I lost interest. My concern with Alex and the Patriot Movement -- is that it could easily morph into something violent and destructive. The truth is that upsetting -- and if there is not a healthy dose of pastoral moderation -- this thing could get very ugly. I have no plans to do anything other than what I'm doing right now -- other than to possibly write some sort of a book and/or screenplay at a later date. I presently don't know enough about what's really going on to do this in a responsible manner. Here is today's show. http://www.prisonplanet.com/

    On the Wednesday, June 27 edition of the Alex Jones Show, Alex talks with Leslie Manookian, writer and producer of the award winning film The Greater Good, a documentary that questions government vaccination policies. The film is now available on DVD at the Infowars Store. Manookian was a successful Wall Street business executive who once worked for Goldman Sachs before turning to films. Alex also runs down the latest news, including an admission by the Pentagon that putting troops on the streets of America is illegal. He also covers the globalist engineered war against Syria where rebels financed and trained by Western intelligence agencies are now ransacking Christian churches. Alex also takes your calls and tackles other important news items.
    Aquaries1111 wrote:Thanks Oxy,

    I know your stance on being "open minded"... I like Bill Coopers stance too.. Believe Nothing, not even him.  Good old common sense is important when discerning..

    Ron Paul says: The real war is of ideas...

    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Aquaries1111. That was an excellent clip. I like Ron Paul because he seems to know how to work within the system -- without being corrupted by it. I especially like his book 'A Foreign Policy of Freedom'. I went to a Ron Paul rally in Las Vegas several years ago at the University of Nevada at Las Vegas -- and I was amazed at the numbers and enthusiasm of the young people. I later wrote a Ron Paul speech and sent it to the campaign -- but I don't think they ever used it. I included massive doses of 'Responsibility-Language' to modify and moderate the 'Freedom-Message'. BTW -- an Ancient Egyptian Deity told me that Ron Paul would be bad for America!! They asked me what I thought about Alex Jones!! My answer was basically what I've said so far in this thread.

    Proposed Ron Paul Presidential Campaign Speech (Not Used)

    Fellow Americans! Friends of Freedom! Our beloved United States of America is suffering and languishing under the dark storm clouds of oppression and irresponsibility! Those who have been given the sacred trust of upholding the Constitution, with its guarantees of freedom and justice for all, have been derelict in their duties! A few short years ago, it was morning in America! The midnight of Viet Nam and Watergate were behind us! The sunrise was spectacular! A bright new optimism filled the land! Well, my friends, it’s midnight again! The Constitution and Freedom are in grave peril from irresponsibility and outright hostility!

    My candidacy for the Presidency of the United States is a call for freedom! In ancient Egypt, as described in the Bible, Moses demanded that Pharaoh release the Israelites from captivity! Well, as Moses looked Pharaoh in the eye, I’m looking all of those who are opposed to the Constitution and Freedom, both nationally and internationally, intently in the eye, and exclaiming, “Let my people go!”

    But freedom isn’t free! The price of freedom is responsibility! And often, sacrifice is the cost of doing responsible business in an often irresponsible world! Our courageous and noble men and women of the armed forces are a blood-stained testimony  to the high price of freedom! We are indebted to them in ways which can never be fully repaid!

    Having said that, we as a nation have irresponsibly squandered our capital of being the example to the world of the moral high-ground! Our nation is no longer the shining city on a hill that it once was! As a result, despite global warming, our world is experiencing an eerie chill!

    But there is Hope for America, and for the World! It is the hope provided for us by our Founding Fathers, that by reverently obeying the Constitution of the United States of America, in both the spirit and in the letter of the law, the truth will set us free! And keep us free! We shall overcome!

    The following is my 12 step plan to sober up a federal government, intoxicated with its own Power and Arrogance, and to restore Freedom and Responsibility to its rightful place in our nation and world:    

    Number 1: Apply Freedom and Responsibility to Racial Diversity!

    Our nation is obsessed with racial group identities of us and them! This is the heart of racism! Government as an institution is particularly ill-suited to combat bigotry! Bigotry at its essence is a problem of the heart, and we cannot change people’s hearts by passing more laws and regulations! It is the federal government that most divides us by race, class, religion, and gender! Through its taxes, restrictive regulations, corporate subsidies, racial set-asides, and welfare programs, government plays far too large a role in determining who succeeds and who fails! Its excessive and inappropriate responsibility is actually irresponsibility! Sometimes to do less is to be more responsible! Government “benevolence” crowds out genuine goodwill by institutionalizing group thinking, thus making each group suspicious that others are receiving more of the government loot than they are! This leads to resentment and hostility among us! Incidentally, this principle is also applicable to foreign policy!

    Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism! Simply, the mindset that throws people into stereotypical groups rather than viewing each person as a unique individual! Racists believe that all people who share superficial physical characteristics are alike! As collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups! To echo the words of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., they judge people by the color of their skin, rather than by the content of their characters! By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called “diversity” actually perpetuate racism! To separate is to discriminate!

    The true cure for the plague of racism is freedom! Freedom means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims! Freedom means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence - not skin color, gender, or ethnicity!

    In a free society, every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality! This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant! Racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual freedom! The corrective lenses of freedom and responsibility make us color blind!

    Number 2: Apply Freedom and Responsibility to Debt and Taxes!

    Working Americans like lower taxes! So do I! Lower taxes benefit all of us, creating jobs and allowing us to make more decisions for ourselves about our lives!

    Whether a tax cut reduces a single mother’s payroll taxes by $40 a month, or allows a business owner to save thousands in capital gains taxes, enabling them to hire more employees…that tax cut is a good thing! Lower taxes allow more spending, saving, and investing which helps the economy! Tax cuts benefit everyone, except the bureaucrats!

    Real conservatives have always supported low taxes and low spending! Unfortunately, the neo-cons just don’t get it! They’re doing just the opposite! They are wolves in conservatives clothing! Or maybe a Trojan Horse would be a more fit description! Too many politicians and lobbyists are spending America into ruin! We are nine trillion dollars in debt as a nation! This is irresponsible and inexcusable! Our mounting government debt endangers the financial future of our children and grandchildren! If we don’t cut spending now, higher taxes and economic disaster will be in their future…and yours!

    In addition, the Federal Reserve, our central bank, fosters runaway debt by increasing the money supply - making each dollar in your pocket worth less! The Fed is a private bank run by unelected officials who are not required to be open or accountable to “we the people!” What a strange arrangement! Go to the library and research the Fed’s beginnings! Make sure you’re sitting down!

    Worse, our economy and our very independence as a nation is increasingly in the hands of foreign governments such as China and Saudi Arabia, because their central banks also finance our runaway spending! When we owe them, they own us!

    We cannot continue to allow private banks, wasteful agencies, lobbyists, corporations on welfare, and governments collecting foreign aid to dictate the size of our ballooning budget! We need a new method to prioritize our spending! It’s called the Constitution of the United States! What a thought!

    Number 3: Apply Freedom and Responsibility to American Independence and Sovereignty!

    So called free trade deals and world governmental organizations like the International Criminal Court (ICC), NAFTA, GATT, WTO, and CAFTA are a threat to our independence as a nation! They transfer power from our government to unelected foreign elites! Didn’t we have a revolution a few years ago to deal with this sort of thing?!

    The ICC wants to try our soldiers as war criminals! Both the WTO and CAFTA could force Americans to get a doctor’s prescription to take herbs and vitamins! Alternative treatments could be banned! What’s wrong with this picture?!

    The WTO has forced Congress to change our laws, yet we still face trade wars! Today, France is threatening to have U.S. goods taxed throughout Europe! If anything, the WTO makes trade relations worse by giving foreign competitors a new way to attack U.S. jobs! Sounds like unfair trade to me!

    NAFTA’s superhighway is just one part of a plan to erase the borders between the U.S. and Mexico, called the North American Union! This spawn of powerful special interests, would create a single nation out of Canada, the U.S. and Mexico, with a new unelected bureaucracy and money system! Forget about controlling immigration under this scheme!

    And a free America, with limited, constitutional government, would be gone forever! This apparently is the goal!

    Let’s not forget the UN! It wants to impose a direct tax on us! I successfully fought this move in Congress last year, but if we are going to stop ongoing attempts of this world government body to tax us, we will need responsible leadership from the White House!

    We must withdraw from any organizations and trade deals that infringe upon the freedom and independence of the United States of America! It’s a matter of our survival as a free nation! It is irresponsible to stand idly by, and watch the United States being taken over by foreign interests!

    Number 4: Apply Freedom and Responsibility to War and Foreign Policy!

    The war in Iraq was sold to us with false information! The area is more dangerous now than when we entered it! We destroyed a regime hated by our direct enemies, the jihadists, and created thousands of new recruits for them! This war has cost more than 3,000 American lives, thousands of seriously wounded, and hundreds of billions of dollars! We must have new leadership in the White House to ensure this never happens again!

    We need to leave Iraq immediately! We continue to keep our hands on a very hot stove, and we are burning our fingertips right up to our armpits! When a mistake is made, it should be admitted and corrected! This is the responsible thing to do! And despite the shrill cries, it is the honorable thing to do! Support and Liberate our troops! Bring them home!

    Both Jefferson and Washington warned us about entangling ourselves in the affairs of other nations! Today, we have troops in 130 countries!  We are spread so thin that we have too few troops defending America! And now, there are new calls for a draft of our young men and women! To fight for the UN?!

    We can irresponsibly continue to fund and fight no-win police actions around the globe, where we make enemies faster than we can kill them! Or, we can bring our troops home, and properly secure America! This is the logical and right thing to do! No war should ever be fought without a declaration of war voted upon by the Congress, as responsibly required by the Constitution!

    Under no circumstances should the U.S. again go to war as the result of a resolution that comes from an unelected, foreign body, such as the United Nations! Whose country is this, anyway?!

    Too often we give foreign aid and intervene on behalf of governments that are despised! Then, we become despised! Guilt by association! Too often we have supported those who turn on us, like the Kosovars who aid Islamic terrorists, or the Afghan jihadists themselves, and their friend Osama bin Laden! We armed and trained them, and now we’re paying the price! Will we ever learn?!

    At the same time, we must not isolate ourselves! We must not be isolationist or interventionist! Both are highly dysfunctional international behaviors! We must engage in cooperation and constructive competition with every nation on the face of the earth! What an invigorating and interesting interaction! Constructive competition, such as trade and athletics, builds up! Destructive competition, such as war and terrorism, destroys! The generosity of the American people has been felt around the globe! Many have thanked God for it, in many languages! Let us have a strong America, conducting open trade, travel, communication, and diplomacy with other nations! We might even achieve world peace! After thousands of years of fighting, what would we do with all of the money and lives we would save?! It would take some serious readjustment!! We have to hate somebody…don’t we?!

    Number 5: Apply Freedom and Responsibility to Unborn Life!

    The right of an innocent, unborn child to life is at the heart of the American ideals of liberty! My professional and legislative record demonstrates my strong commitment to this pro-life principle!

    In 40 years of medical practice, I never once considered performing an abortion, nor did I ever find abortion necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman!

    In Congress, I have authored legislation that seeks to define life as beginning at conception, HR 1094!

    I am also the prime sponsor of HR 300, which would negate the effect of Roe v Wade by removing the ability of federal courts to interfere with state legislation to protect life! This is a practical, direct approach to ending federal court tyranny which threatens our constitutional republic and has caused the deaths of 45 million of the unborn! Didn’t something similar occur in the 1940’s?!

    I have also authored HR 1095, which prevents federal funds from being used for so-called “population control!”

    Many talk about being pro-life! I have taken direct action to restore protection for the unborn!

    One more thing to think about…when heartbeats and brainwaves cease…a person is declared dead! When heartbeats and brainwaves commence…shouldn’t a baby be declared alive?! If someone then causes the baby’s heartbeats and brainwaves to cease, shouldn’t they be charged with murder?! Whether the baby is inside or outside of the mother should be irrelevant!

    Abortion is an irresponsible way to deal with irresponsibility!

    As an OB/GYN doctor, I’ve delivered over 4,000 babies! That experience has made me an unshakable foe of abortion! Many of you may have read my book, Challenge To Liberty, which champions the idea that there cannot be liberty in a society unless the rights of all innocents are protected! Much can be understood about the civility of a society in observing its regard for the dignity of human life!

    Number 6: Apply Freedom and Responsibility to the Second Amendment!

    I share our Founder’s belief that in a free society each citizen must have the right to keep and bear arms! They ratified the Second Amendment knowing that this right is the guardian of every other right, and they all would be horrified by the proliferation of unconstitutional legislation that prevents law-abiding Americans from exercising this right!

    I have always supported the Second Amendment and these are some of the bills I have introduced in the current Congress to help restore respect for it:

    * H.R. 1096 includes provisions repealing the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act and the Federal Firearms License Reform Act of 1993, two invasive and unconstitutional bills!

    * H.R. 1897 would end the ban on carrying a firearm in the National Park System, restoring American’s ability to protect themselves in potentially hazardous situations!

    * H.R. 3305 would allow pilots and specially assigned law enforcement personnel to carry firearms in order to protect airline passengers, possibly preventing future 9/11-style attacks!

    * H.R. 1146 would end our membership in the United Nations, protecting us from their attempts to tax our guns or disarm us entirely!

    In the past, I introduced legislation to repeal the so-called “assault weapons” ban before its 2004 sunset, and I will oppose any attempts to reinstate it!

    I also recently opposed H.R. 2640, which would allow government-appointed psychiatrists to ban U.S. veterans experiencing even mild forms of Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome from ever owning a gun!

    But responsibility is necessary to preserve freedom! Gun Responsibility Classes should be voluntarily taken by current and prospective gun owners! Rights and Responsibilities go hand in hand! Self-discipline is necessary to avoid State-discipline!

    You have the right to protect your life, liberty, and property! As President, I will continue to guard the liberties stated in the Second Amendment!

    Number 7: Apply Freedom and Responsibility to Social Security!

    Our nation’s promise to its seniors, once considered a sacred trust, has become little more than a tool for politicians to scare retirees while robbing them of their promised benefits! Today, the Social Security system is financially broke and structurally broken!

    Those currently in the system are seeing their benefits dwindle! Raising taxes and increasing the age of eligibility are NOT solutions! They are irresponsible betrayals!

    Imposing any tax on Social Security benefits is unfair and illogical! In Congress, I have introduced the Senior Citizens Tax Elimination Act (H.R. 191), which repeals ALL taxes on Social Security benefits, to eliminate political theft of our senior’s income, and to raise their standard of living!

    Solvency is the key to keeping our promise to our seniors, and I have introduced the Social Security Preservation Act (H.R. 219) to ensure that money paid into the system is only used for Social Security! Social Security has been an irresistible cookie jar for many irresponsible politicians to reach into with their dirty, money grubbing fingers! Hands Off!

    It is fundamentally unfair to give benefits to anyone who has not paid into the system! The Social Security for Americans Only Act (H.R. 190) ends the drain on Social Security caused by illegal aliens seeking the fruits of your labor!

    We must also address the desire of younger workers to save and invest on their own! We should cut payroll taxes and give workers the opportunity to seek better returns in the private market! This step would bring the incentives and rewards of free market capitalism to the stagnant Social Security system!

    Excessive government spending has created the insolvency crisis in Social Security! We must significantly reduce spending so that our nation can keep its promise to our seniors!
    Let’s get our priorities straight!

    Number 8: Apply Freedom and Responsibility to Education!

    The federal government does not own our children! Yet we act as if it does by letting it decide when, how, and what our children will learn! We irresponsibly allow the federal government to irresponsibly program our children! We have turned their futures over to lobbyists and bureaucrats! They are unfit step-parents!

    I support giving educational control back to parents, who know their children better than any politician in D. C. ever will!

    The federal government has no constitutional authority to fund or control schools! I want to abolish the unconstitutional, wasteful Department of Education and return its functions to the states! By removing the federal subsidies that inflate costs, schools can be funded by local taxes, and parents and teachers can directly decide how best to allocate the resources! This step would include elimination of all unfunded educational mandates by the federal government!

    To help parents with the costs of schooling, I have introduced H.R. 1056, the Family Education Freedom Act, in Congress! This bill would allow parents a tax credit of up to $5,000 (adjustable after 2007 for inflation) per student per year for the cost of attendance at an elementary and/or secondary school! This includes private, parochial, religious, and home schools!

    Another bill I have sponsored, H.R. 1059, allows full-time elementary and secondary teachers a $3,000 yearly tax credit, thus easing their financial burden and encouraging good teachers to stay in an underpaid profession! The best and the brightest should teach our children today, if we want our children to be the best and the brightest tomorrow!

    Many parents have already shown their desire to be free of federal control by either enrolling their children in private schools or home schooling them! And students enrolled in these alternatives have consistently performed better and tested higher than those in state-run schools! Each child is a unique treasure! We should do whatever works to maximize the realization of their potential! How many genius’s have been lost in the cracks of our mass produced, cookie cutter educational system?! A mind is too precious of a thing to waste in a terrible school!

    My commitment to home schooling as an educational alternative for American families is unmatched by any Presidential candidate!

    Returning control of education to parents is the centerpiece of my education agenda! As President I will advance tax credits through the Family Education Freedom Act, which reduces taxes to make it easier for parents to home school by allowing them to devote more of their own funds to their children’s education!

    I am committed to guaranteeing parity for home school diplomas and advancing equal scholarship consideration for students entering college from a home school environment!

    We must have permanency in the Department of Defense Home School Tier 1 Pilot Program, providing recruitment status parity for home school graduates! I will use my authority to prevent the Department of Education from regulating home school activities!

    I will veto any legislation that creates national standards or national testing for home school parents or students! I’m not a big fan of No Child Left Behind! But I’m even less of a fan of No Politician Left Behind! I believe that, as long as No Child Left Behind remains law, it must include the protections for home schoolers included in sec. 9506 (enshrining home schooler’s rights) and 9527 (guaranteeing no national curriculum)! Every student is unique, and should not be stifled with a one-size-fits-all mold!

    Federal monies must never be used to undermine the rights of home schooling parents! I will use the bully pulpit of the Presidency to encourage a culture of educational freedom throughout the nation!

    Years of centralized education have produced nothing but student failures and frustrated parents! We can resurrect our public school system if we follow the Constitution and end the federal education monopoly! Let our children go!

    Number 9: Apply Freedom and Responsibility to Border Security and Immigration Reform!

    The talk must stop! We must secure our borders now! A nation without secure borders is no nation at all! It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked! This is irresponsibility, bordering on treason!

    This is my six point plan:

    1. Physically secure our borders and coastlines! We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals!

    2. Enforce visa rules! Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law! This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas!

    3. No amnesty! Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally! That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws! The definition of freedom does not include freedom from obeying the law! And disregarding the word illegal is the beginning of the end of law and order in our society!

    4. No welfare for illegal aliens! Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules! But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services!

    5. End birthright citizenship! As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong!

    6. Pass true immigration reform! The current system is incoherent and unfair! But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation! This is insanity! Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods! There should be reasonable numbers of responsible immigrants! There should be zero illegal, irresponsible or dangerous immigrants! And no one should be allowed to cut to the front of the line!

    Number 10: Apply Freedom and Responsibility to Privacy, Personal Liberty, and Private Property!

    The biggest threat to your privacy is the government! We must drastically limit the ability of government to collect and store data regarding citizen’s personal matters!

    We must stop the move toward a national ID! A national ID with new tracking technologies means we’re heading into an Orwellian world of no privacy! I voted against the Real ID Act in March of 2005!

    To date, the privacy focus has been on identity theft. It was Congress that created this danger by mandating use of the standard identifier (currently your SSN) in the private sector! For example, banks use SSNs as customer account identifiers because the government requires it!

    We must also protect medical privacy! Right now, you’re vulnerable! Under so-called “medical privacy protection” rules, insurance companies and other entities have access to your personal medical information! This is the epitome of irresponsibility!

    Financial privacy? Right now depositing $10,000 or more in cash in your local bank account will generate a federally-mandated report to the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network at the United States Department of the Treasury!

    And then there’s the so-called Patriot Act! As originally proposed, it:

    * Expanded the federal government’s ability to use wiretaps without judicial oversight!
    * Allowed nationwide search warrants non-specific to any given location, nor subject to any local judicial oversight!
    * Made it far easier for the government to monitor private internet usage!
    * Authorized “sneak and peek” warrants enabling federal authorities to search a person’s home, office, or personal property without that person’s knowledge!
    * Required libraries and bookstores to turn over records of books read by their patrons!

    The Patriot Act is more about monitoring and controlling law abiding citizens, like you and me, than it is about detecting and apprehending terrorists!

    I have fought this fight for many years! I sponsored a bill to overturn the Patriot Act and have won some victories, but today the threat to your liberty and privacy is very real! We need leadership at the top that will prevent Washington from centralizing power and private data about our lives!

    We must stop special interests from violating property rights and literally driving families from their homes, farms and ranches!

    Today, we face a new threat of widespread eminent domain actions as a result of powerful interests who want to build the NAFTA superhighway through the United States from Mexico to Canada!

    We also face another danger in regulatory takings: Through excess regulation, governments deprive property owners of significant value and use of their properties--all without paying “just compensation!”

    Property rights are the foundation of all rights in a free society! Without the right to own a printing press, for example, freedom of the press becomes meaningless! The next president must get federal agencies out of these schemes to deny property owners their constitutional rights to life, liberty, and property!

    The American people are being treated like a herd of cattle! The scary part is that many of us are getting used to the abuse, and don’t seem to mind! Trust me, this is only the beginning!

    Number 11: Apply Freedom and Responsibility to Health Promotion and Health Care!

    Americans are justifiably concerned over the government’s escalating intervention into their freedom to choose what they eat and how they take care of their health!

    The Food and Drug Administration (FDA), in order to comply with standards dictated by supra-national organizations such as the UN’s World Food Code (CODEX), NAFTA, and CAFTA, has been assuming greater control over nutrients, vitamins and natural health care providers to restrict your right to choose the manner in which you manage your health and nutritional needs!

    I have been the national leader in preserving Health Freedom!

    I have introduced the Health Freedom Protection Act, HR 2117, to ensure Americans can receive truthful health information about supplements and natural remedies! Just the facts Uncle Sam!

    I support the Access to Medical Treatment Act, H.R. 2717, which expands the ability of Americans to use alternative medicine and new treatments! Not just drugs and surgery!

    I oppose legislation that increases the FDA’s legal powers!  The FDA has consistently failed to protect the public from dangerous drugs, genetically modified foods, dangerous pesticides and other chemicals in the food supply! Meanwhile they waste public funds attacking safe, healthy foods and dietary supplements! Whose side are they on? Do I have to tell you?!

    I also opposed the Homeland Security Bill, H.R. 5005, which, in section 304, authorizes the forced vaccination of American citizens against small pox! The government should never have the power to require immunizations or vaccinations! Again, the herd of cattle analogy seems to apply!

    The federal government decided long ago that it knew how to manage your health care better than you, and replaced personal freedom and responsibility with a system that puts corporate interests first! Our free market health care system that was once the envy of the world became a federally-managed disaster! Beware of the Federal Medical Industrial Complex! Do you feel safe or lucky?

    Few people realize that Congress forced Health Maintenance Organizations (HMOs) on us! HMOs rose to prominence through federal legislation, incentives, and coercion!

    Now, the Food and Drug Administration’s bias toward large pharmaceutical companies enlarges their power, limits treatment options, and drives consumers to seek Canadian medicines! Regulations from D.C. make it virtually impossible for small business owners to cover their employees! The unemployed often cannot afford insurance, meaning those who need basic medical attention overcrowd emergency rooms and drive up premiums!

    The federal government will not suddenly become efficient managers if universal health care is instituted! Government health care only means long waiting periods, lack of choice, poor quality, and frustration! Many Canadians, fed up with socialized medicine, come to the U.S. in order to obtain care! Socialized medicine will not magically work here in the United States!

    Health care should not be left up to HMOs, big drug companies, and government bureaucrats!

    It is time to take back our health care! This is why I support:

    *Emphasizing an ounce of prevention, rather than a pound of cure!
    * Making all medical expenses tax deductible!
    * Eliminating federal regulations that discourage small businesses from providing coverage!
    * Giving doctors the freedom to collectively negotiate with insurance companies and drive down the cost of medical care!
    * Making every American eligible for a Health Savings Account (HSA), and removing the requirement that individuals must obtain a high-deductible insurance policy before opening an HSA!
    * Reform licensure requirements so that pharmacists and nurses can perform some basic functions to increase access to care and lower costs!

    By removing federal regulations, encouraging competition, and presenting real choices, we can make our health care system the envy of the world once again!

    Number 12: Apply Freedom and Responsibility to the Environment!

    The federal government has proven itself untrustworthy and irresponsible with environmental policy by facilitating polluters, subsidizing logging in the National Forests, and instituting one-size-fits-all approaches that too often discriminate against those they are intended to help!

    The key to sound environmental policy is respect for private property rights! The strict enforcement of property rights corrects environmental wrongs while increasing the cost of polluting!

    In a free market, no one is allowed to pollute his neighbor’s land, air, or water! If your property is being damaged, you have every right to sue the polluter, and government should protect that right! After paying damages, the polluter’s production and sale costs rise, making it unprofitable to continue doing business the same way! Currently, preemptive regulations and pay-to-pollute schemes favor those wealthy enough to perform the regulatory tap dance, while those who own the polluted land rarely receive a quick or just resolution to their problems!

    In Congress, I have followed a constitutional approach to environmental action:

    * I consistently vote against using tax dollars to subsidize logging in National Forests!
    * I am a co-sponsor of legislation designed to encourage the development of alternative and sustainable energy. H.R. 550 extends the investment tax credit to solar energy property and qualified fuel cell property, and H.R. 1772 provides tax credits for the installation of wind energy property!
    * Taxpayers for Common Sense named me a “Treasury Guardian” for my work against environmentally-harmful government spending and corporate welfare!
    * I am a member of the Congressional Green Scissors Coalition, a bipartisan caucus devoted to ending taxpayer subsidies of projects that harm the environment for the benefit of special interests!

    Individuals, businesses, localities, and states must be free to negotiate environmental standards! Those who depend on the land for their health and livelihood have the greatest incentive to be responsible stewards!

    In Conclusion:

    The Democrats and Republicans have become two sides of the same corrupt coin! In recent years, the coin of the realm has become blood money!

    Democrats: your party’s presidential candidates are not Democrats in the tradition of Franklin Delano Roosevelt or John Fitzgerald Kennedy! The New Deal has become the Raw Deal!

    Republicans: your party’s presidential candidates are not Republicans in the tradition of Lincoln and Reagan! Conservatism has become Globalism!

    We need to regain a sense of rugged individualism! In the words of John Fitzgerald Kennedy, “Ask not what your country can do for you! Ask what you can do for your country!” They say that the bottom line is the bottom line! People often sell their souls for the bottom line! Some would say that this is why our society is riddled with corruption! This may be true! But I submit that the bottom line needs to include freedom and responsibility! And that we will find, as a society, that if and when we do this, that the numerical portion of the bottom line will exceed our wildest dreams!

    Democrats and Republicans: Embrace Freedom and Responsibility! Repulse Tyranny and Irresponsibility! Rise above petty party differences and squabbles! Step up to the plate, and do the right thing! This thing is bigger than all of us put together! We stand at a crossroads as a nation and as a world!   Will we choose to live in a world at war, governed by Tyranny and Irresponsibility?! Or, will we choose to live in a peaceful world, governed by Freedom and Responsibility?! I have confidence that we will make the right choice! Join the Revolution!

    Thank-you fellow Americans for your prayers and your support! God bless you! And God bless the United States of America!
    orthodoxymoron wrote:I think your truth mixed with bs theory might be correct JT. Who does Alex Jones work for??!! Who do you work for JT??!! Just kidding!! I don't trust anyone!! I don't trust myself!! I will continue to consider most of what we discuss as being science-fiction. I will keep what I'm doing as a tempest in a very small teapot. The material is too speculative -- too volatile -- and too difficult to prove. I simply think that we should consider all of the possibilities regarding the most important subjects imaginable.
    Aquaries1111 wrote:
    Project Redlight and Project Redlight II were the very first videos produced about Area 51, also known as Dreamland. Contains more information than any other production. A historic classic video unlike anything else you have ever seen. An Area 51 junky "must view".

    Don't be Frightened. I Meant No Harm (throughout this thread). Thank-you Aquaries1111. I'll have to watch that video later today, or tomorow. Notice all of the videos to the right of the screen!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmLYtuUzlsE&feature=player_embedded Perhaps I'll watch all of them -- even though I've seen many of them previously. This thread is 'my baby' so to speak -- but the real value of this particular study is the grouping of links and references. I am merely pointing others toward interesting perspectives. I really am a completely ignorant fool. I have never disputed what Raven said about me. But Siriusly, don't neglect the theological stuff -- even though a lot of it seems boring and heavy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Es9xJutiwo&feature=related Theology is at the center of everything which has been (and is) occurring in this solar system. BTW -- Law is at the Center of Theology and Governance. It really is. Somewhat unrelatedly, I keep imagining someone similar to Kate (in 'East of Eden'), Starbuck's Mom in 'Battlestar Galactica', Anna in 'V', Alaya or Reztak (spelling?) in the 'Hungry Earth' and 'Cold Blood' episodes of 'Dr. Who', et al -- at the Center of Solar System Governance. You know -- someone who is a multidisciplinary-super-genius -- who is very-quick, very-hard, very-decisive -- and who might chain-smoke and swear like a trooper!!! Actually, a sophisticated genetics and/or avatar program might produce an idealized physical form -- but what I am referring to and hinting at -- is the inner person. They might be in the company of Nazis, Masons, Jesuits, Alphabet-Agents, Televangelists, Politicians, Bankers, Generals, Dracs, Greys, et al!!! Do you get the picture??? I have nothing concrete to point to. It's just a feeling. What troubles me, is that this might be the way it has to be -- or at least ends up being -- despite any heroic-idealism or good-intentions. In fact, the more I think about Solar System Governance, the more I feel myself being pulled in that direction. Again, I have no evidence or proof. I just suspect that we might be utterly shocked by how things REALLY work in this solar system. I'm sorry for speculating in this manner -- but what the hell else am I supposed to do -- with lies and deception everywhere???

    I sometimes wonder if I were close to the center of this madness in previous incarnations -- and got my @$$ booted out of Purgatory because I was too much of a 'sanctimonious pain-in-uranus'. That wouldn't surprise me one little bit. I keep imagining going into one room, and arguing with the Greys for a couple of hours -- going into another room to argue with the Dracs for a couple of hours -- going into another room to argue with the Humans for a couple of hours -- and then starting all over again -- day after day after day. The realities of solar system governance might be more screwed-up and upsetting than we can possibly imagine. I wonder how many individuals (human and otherwise) have gone completely insane throughout the centuries -- in connection with solar system governance??? One more thing. What if Pinky is the Brain??!! What if the Brain is Insane?? Notice the pairing in the song. 'Pinky and the Brain -- One is a Genius -- the Other's Insane'. Think about it!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJPFSNu_QNs Just remember that Plankton cheated!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeNxh5t5dHg&feature=related What if the Goofy Goober is a Righteous Genius who deceived the Evil Genius???!!! 'The Last Temptation of Satan'?? Think about it!!! Remember, the purpose of this thread is to make you think in unconventional yet productive ways -- as a mental and spiritual exercise -- and as an orthodoxymoron mind-control experiment!! The next level of evolution for orthodoxymoron is to learn to just research without emotion or comment -- sort of like taking an 'empathy test' each and every day. I feel as if I need to go slower on the outside -- and faster on the inside. However, going nuts might be an occupational hazard connected with this. But begging for attention and conversation is so infantile and lame. I simply need to make a private journey into the unknown -- where no one can follow me -- even if they really wanted to. I need to think everything -- do nothing -- and maintain a poker-face -- without going crazy. Do you see what I mean? I think I need to let this thread go -- and move on into the night.

    I am torn assunder by the security issues. Are we stuck with some sort of an Orion-Roman Empire -- and with some sort of a tracking system -- regardless of who the Local Solar System Administrator is??? I've been trying to imagine dealing with a hypothetical Orion-Roman Empire -- and this is scaring the hell out of me. Is this image the future of America (and the world)??? "Don't chip me bro!!!" I keep wondering if Earth is morally and financially bankrupt?! If so, we probably will be chipped and treated like cattle. It's going to take a helluva lot of work to create a truly enlightened and dignified representative-republic. A Prevention-Based Healthcare System would be a step in the right direction. How about 50% of the total healthcare expenditures going into Prevention, Natural-Treatment, and Rehabilitation -- with 50% going toward drugs and surgery medicine as usual??

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    I keep thinking about an integration of the '1962 Missal' (Latin Mass), the '1928 Book of Common Prayer', the 'Desire of Ages', and the Bach 'B-Minor Mass' (Latin Mass) -- in the context of St. Peter's Basilica (with that 1875 Cavaille-Coll designed pipe-organ -- with the best organist, orchestra, and choir in the solar system) -- with mostly sung Latin and spoken English -- with no offering-collection -- and only the clergy partaking of the unleavened-bread and unfermented grape-juice -- all led by a Female Pope on the Seventh-Day Sabbath!!!! OMG!!!! Now wouldn't that just piss everyone off big-time???!!!! What would the various religious and political leaders say from throughout the solar system???!!! What would the Faithful say???!!! What would the General Public say???!!! I was going to shut-up -- wasn't I???!!! But seriously -- can you imagine the discussions and power-struggles connected with achieving such a revolting development???!!! Can you even begin to imagine the closed-door debating and fighting in the Sistine Chapel???!!! OMG!!! What Would the Queen of Heaven Say??? What Would Jesus Do??? I really should stop!!! They have ways to make me stop!!! Many ways!!! Can you imagine Anna (in 'V') pressuring the College of Cardinals to do all of the above????!!!! OMG!!!! (Note: I do not agree with the editorial content of the third video below -- although I do lean toward applying the scientific-method to both secular and sacred contexts.)

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3dTbTemgWE
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=nY-l7MhfcPw&NR=1
    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enWiFcsBqIE

    What situation really existed prior to the creation or genetic-engineering of the human-being?? What religious and governmental system(s) existed prior to the existence of humanity?? Was there a liturgy and/or sacrificial-system? What about ethics and law?? I'm trying to understand where we really came from as a race. I keep wondering if I am fundamentally human -- or if I primarily am associated with an other-than-human race?? There seems to be a sinister veil of secrecy surrounding all of this -- for legitimate reasons or otherwise -- I know not. I simply feel VERY apprehensive and uneasy. I feel as if something is VERY wrong. Anyway, I probably need to fight this mental and spiritual battle on my own. I probably need to just disappear from the internet. I've tried to do this many, many, many times. I really have tried hard to just shut up -- yet I have failed -- over and over and over again. I keep hoping for peace and resolution -- yet there is no peace. Perhaps there never will be. Perhaps I just have to get used to fighting ridiculous battles. Perhaps pain is the cost of doing business in the universe. What Would the Ancient Egyptian Deity Say?? Actually, they indicated that despite some sort of a transition -- the conflict would NOT be over. I continue to be only vaguely aware of what might be involved in this galactic struggle. I continue to desire peace -- but perhaps this is an impossible dream. Who knows??

    I might respond to posts on this thread -- but I'm going to try REALLY hard to NOT bite-off any more than I already have -- which is way too much. I'm just going to try to master what I've already posted -- especially pertaining to pre-human law -- international, interplanetary, and intergalactic law (human and otherwise). I just watched the last episode of season three of Battlestar Galactica -- and I keep crying everytime I think about it. One last thing -- what is the relationship between Egyptian-Law, Hebrew-Law, Roman-Law, and Canon-Law??? This question might be more important than you think. Enough. Namaste and Godspeed. I Am of Peace. Always.

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    "Come-On Brain!! SMILE!!!! I Did Good -- Didn't I??!!"
    Aquaries1111 wrote:The following quotes were posted by Viking on AV1. I don't know the sources - but I wish I did.

    "Man has been trained to believe that which he is told - whether it is truth or a lie, to the point now that man is simply a victim of the lies. May light come forth that you may recover your pathway to truth"

    "Only at the close of the present major cycle the whole world will join together in the sweetest hymn ever sung upon Earth: a divine anthem of international co-operation, global goodwill and united spiritual purpose"

    If we ignore the esoteric and solar system governance - then we are irresponsible - aren't we? On the other hand - if we go crazy dealing with all of this - that's being irresponsible too - isn't it? I'd just like to forget the whole thing - but I am very afraid that the general public is being screwed - but I'm not sure by whom - and why. So - what is the proper balance-point in all of this? I'm not particularly rebellious or ambitious. I'm just curious and scared. I'd just like to have a single day of peace.


    I like this what you posted Oxy.. Our "attention" is the key.. Where does our attention lay?  I am learning so much.. I am learning to be open minded but not to the point where I do not have any of my own foundational truths.. We are innately attuned to know what is right and wrong for us.. Perhaps we define too much?  Maybe it's time to create a new language or remember an ancient one.. The Language of Light perhaps?  Hmmm.. who was it that said "If you go to a foreign country and do not know the language then how can you expect to understand the exchange"?

    Okay back to work...

    Thank-you Aquaries1111. I tend to think that a new political and theological language or paradigm might emerge from a study of this particular thread. My goal is to study the territory I've covered -- over and over -- and then state what I've learned in a very simple and refined manner -- which might sound deceptively simplistic -- yet which might be quite profound. On the other hand, all of this might just be my collection of 'hang-ups' and 'mind-games'. This tempest in a teapot might never move beyond Political and Theological Science-Fiction (in it's most primitive form). Time will tell. Right now, I feel as if I have ventured carelessly into 'enemy-territory' and gotten my 'butt kicked'. I've turned into quite the 'heretic' (by most standards). I keep feeling as if I need to privately think all of this through in a careful and prayerful manner. I sometimes wish I were turning all of this madness into a doctoral dissertation in a university setting -- complete with an intimidating professor to provide the proper level of discipline. Or, perhaps an Underground-Base or the Dark Side of the Moon might be more appropriate settings. Unfortunately, I suspect that one eventually reaches the point of no return -- past which they might never be able to return to normality or life as we know it presently. I suspect that I've already become a 'problem' to certain individuals, organizations, or factions. I continue to issue warnings to those who seriously and deeply research 'what's REALLY going-on in this solar system'. I think this is quite the can of worms. Once again, my goal is to learn as much as possible, while causing as little trouble as possible. I would like to assist serious researchers -- rather than 'waking-up' the general-public. The 'right' Hollywood factions might have to do the 'waking-up' in a very carefully thought-out and implemented manner. Here is some more Sherry Shriner! http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2012/06/28/aliens-in-the-news Again, my purpose in posting these links is to help people negotiate upsetting information -- without getting upset. I have no idea how much of this stuff is true -- but it forces me to think way outside of the box. Imagine facing this beautiful professor with talk of a hypothetical 'Orion-Sirius-Aldebaran-Atlantean-Babylonian-Egyptian-Grecian-Roman-British-American Empire'!!!
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    Post  enemyofNWO Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:40 am


    Ortho ,
    In this thread i did not read any of your speculation on a theorized Return of the " Mythical Jesus " .
    On a few internet video there is speculation about this subject . There is talk about the Annunaki returning and the return of Jesus . If the Annunaki return I am certain they would want gold ...... and the Catholic Church has made a habit of collecting large quantity of gold by looting or speculation or backing each side in a war . The mythical Jesus chased out of the temple the money changers , he certainly would be very impressed ( sarcasm ) by the church collection of tens of thousand of tons of Gold , silver , works of art and hundreds of thousand of real estate property al over the world .
    The churches today have nothing to do with the original ideas of the mythical Jesus . I suspect that if he ( Jesus ) showed up he would finish the same way as he did 20000 years ago....... crucified .
    What do you think ?
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    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither ; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish .

    Why do the heathen rage , and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder , and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh : the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed , ye judges of the earth. Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry , and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

    LORD, how are they increased that trouble me! many are they that rise up against me. Many there be which say of my soul, There is no help for him in God. Selah. But thou, O LORD, art a shield for me; my glory, and the lifter up of mine head. I cried unto the LORD with my voice, and he heard me out of his holy hill. I laid me down and slept ; I awaked ; for the LORD sustained me. I will not be afraid of ten thousands of people, that have set themselves against me round about. Arise , O LORD; save me, O my God: for thou hast smitten all mine enemies upon the cheek bone; thou hast broken the teeth of the ungodly. Salvation belongeth unto the LORD: thy blessing is upon thy people.

    Hear me when I call , O God of my righteousness: thou hast enlarged me when I was in distress; have mercy upon me, and hear my prayer. O ye sons of men, how long will ye turn my glory into shame? how long will ye love vanity, and seek after leasing? Selah. But know that the LORD hath set apart him that is godly for himself: the LORD will hear when I call unto him. Stand in awe , and sin not: commune with your own heart upon your bed, and be still . Selah. Offer the sacrifices of righteousness, and put your trust in the LORD. There be many that say , Who will shew us any good? LORD, lift thou up the light of thy countenance upon us. Thou hast put gladness in my heart, more than in the time that their corn and their wine increased . I will both lay me down in peace, and sleep: for thou, LORD, only makest me dwell in safety.

    Give ear to my words, O LORD, consider my meditation. Hearken unto the voice of my cry, my King, and my God: for unto thee will I pray. My voice shalt thou hear in the morning, O LORD; in the morning will I direct my prayer unto thee, and will look up. For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee. The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man. But as for me, I will come into thy house in the multitude of thy mercy: and in thy fear will I worship toward thy holy temple. Lead me, O LORD, in thy righteousness because of mine enemies ; make thy way straight before my face. For there is no faithfulness in their mouth; their inward part is very wickedness; their throat is an open sepulchre; they flatter with their tongue. Destroy thou them, O God; let them fall by their own counsels; cast them out in the multitude of their transgressions; for they have rebelled against thee. But let all those that put their trust in thee rejoice: let them ever shout for joy , because thou defendest them: let them also that love thy name be joyful in thee. For thou, LORD, wilt bless the righteous; with favour wilt thou compass him as with a shield.

    O LORD, rebuke me not in thine anger, neither chasten me in thy hot displeasure. Have mercy upon me, O LORD; for I am weak: O LORD, heal me; for my bones are vexed. My soul is also sore vexed : but thou, O LORD, how long? Return , O LORD, deliver my soul: oh save me for thy mercies' sake. For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks ? I am weary with my groaning; all the night make I my bed to swim ; I water my couch with my tears. Mine eye is consumed because of grief; it waxeth old because of all mine enemies. Depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity; for the LORD hath heard the voice of my weeping. The LORD hath heard my supplication; the LORD will receive my prayer. Let all mine enemies be ashamed and sore vexed: let them return and be ashamed suddenly.

    O LORD my God, in thee do I put my trust : save me from all them that persecute me, and deliver me: Lest he tear my soul like a lion, rending it in pieces, while there is none to deliver. O LORD my God, if I have done this; if there be iniquity in my hands; If I have rewarded evil unto him that was at peace with me; (yea, I have delivered him that without cause is mine enemy :) Let the enemy persecute my soul, and take it; yea, let him tread down my life upon the earth, and lay mine honour in the dust. Selah. Arise , O LORD, in thine anger, lift up thyself because of the rage of mine enemies : and awake for me to the judgment that thou hast commanded. So shall the congregation of the people compass thee about: for their sakes therefore return thou on high. The LORD shall judge the people: judge me, O LORD, according to my righteousness, and according to mine integrity that is in me. Oh let the wickedness of the wicked come to an end ; but establish the just: for the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins. My defence is of God, which saveth the upright in heart. God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day. If he turn not, he will whet his sword; he hath bent his bow, and made it ready. He hath also prepared for him the instruments of death; he ordaineth his arrows against the persecutors. Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. His mischief shall return upon his own head, and his violent dealing shall come down upon his own pate. I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.

    O LORD our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth! who hast set thy glory above the heavens. Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger. When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honor. Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet: All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field; The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas. O LORD our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth!

    I will praise thee, O LORD, with my whole heart; I will shew forth all thy marvellous works. I will be glad and rejoice in thee: I will sing praise to thy name, O thou most High. When mine enemies are turned back, they shall fall and perish at thy presence. For thou hast maintained my right and my cause; thou satest in the throne judging right. Thou hast rebuked the heathen, thou hast destroyed the wicked, thou hast put out their name for ever and ever. O thou enemy , destructions are come to a perpetual end : and thou hast destroyed cities ; their memorial is perished with them. But the LORD shall endure for ever: he hath prepared his throne for judgment. And he shall judge the world in righteousness, he shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness. The LORD also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble. And they that know thy name will put their trust in thee: for thou, LORD, hast not forsaken them that seek thee. Sing praises to the LORD, which dwelleth in Zion: declare among the people his doings. When he maketh inquisition for blood, he remembereth them: he forgetteth not the cry of the humble. Have mercy upon me, O LORD; consider my trouble which I suffer of them that hate me, thou that liftest me up from the gates of death: That I may shew forth all thy praise in the gates of the daughter of Zion: I will rejoice in thy salvation. The heathen are sunk down in the pit that they made : in the net which they hid is their own foot taken. The LORD is known by the judgment which he executeth : the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah. The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. For the needy shall not alway be forgotten: the expectation of the poor shall not perish for ever. Arise , O LORD; let not man prevail: let the heathen be judged in thy sight. Put them in fear , O LORD: that the nations may know themselves to be but men.

    Why standest thou afar off, O LORD? why hidest thou thyself in times of trouble? The wicked in his pride doth persecute the poor: let them be taken in the devices that they have imagined. For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous , whom the LORD abhorreth. The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts. His ways are always grievous ; thy judgments are far above out of his sight: as for all his enemies, he puffeth at them. He hath said in his heart, I shall not be moved: for I shall never be in adversity. His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue is mischief and vanity. He sitteth in the lurking places of the villages: in the secret places doth he murder the innocent: his eyes are privily set against the poor. He lieth in wait secretly as a lion in his den: he lieth in wait to catch the poor: he doth catch the poor, when he draweth him into his net. He croucheth , and humbleth himself, that the poor may fall by his strong ones. He hath said in his heart, God hath forgotten : he hideth his face; he will never see it. Arise, O LORD; O God, lift up thine hand: forget not the humble. Wherefore doth the wicked contemn God? he hath said in his heart, Thou wilt not require it. Thou hast seen it; for thou beholdest mischief and spite, to requite it with thy hand: the poor committeth himself unto thee; thou art the helper of the fatherless. Break thou the arm of the wicked and the evil man: seek out his wickedness till thou find none. The LORD is King for ever and ever: the heathen are perished out of his land. LORD, thou hast heard the desire of the humble: thou wilt prepare their heart, thou wilt cause thine ear to hear: To judge the fatherless and the oppressed, that the man of the earth may no more oppress .

    In the LORD put I my trust : how say ye to my soul, Flee as a bird to your mountain? For, lo, the wicked bend their bow, they make ready their arrow upon the string, that they may privily shoot at the upright in heart. If the foundations be destroyed , what can the righteous do? The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD'S throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try , the children of men. The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth. Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup. For the righteous LORD loveth righteousness; his countenance doth behold the upright.

    Help , LORD; for the godly man ceaseth ; for the faithful fail from among the children of men. They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak. The LORD shall cut off all flattering lips, and the tongue that speaketh proud things: Who have said , With our tongue will we prevail; our lips are our own: who is lord over us? For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise , saith the LORD; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him. The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted .

    How long wilt thou forget me, O LORD? for ever? how long wilt thou hide thy face from me? How long shall I take counsel in my soul, having sorrow in my heart daily? how long shall mine enemy be exalted over me? Consider and hear me, O LORD my God: lighten mine eyes, lest I sleep the sleep of death; Lest mine enemy say , I have prevailed against him; and those that trouble me rejoice when I am moved. But I have trusted in thy mercy; my heart shall rejoice in thy salvation. I will sing unto the LORD, because he hath dealt bountifully with me.

    The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt , they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand , and seek God. They are all gone aside , they are all together become filthy : there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD. There were they in great fear : for God is in the generation of the righteous. Ye have shamed the counsel of the poor, because the LORD is his refuge. Oh that the salvation of Israel were come out of Zion! when the LORD bringeth back the captivity of his people, Jacob shall rejoice , and Israel shall be glad .

    LORD, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill? He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart. He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbor. In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth them that fear the LORD. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not. He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be moved .

    Preserve me, O God: for in thee do I put my trust. O my soul, thou hast said unto the LORD, Thou art my Lord: my goodness extendeth not to thee; But to the saints that are in the earth, and to the excellent, in whom is all my delight. Their sorrows shall be multiplied that hasten after another god: their drink offerings of blood will I not offer , nor take up their names into my lips. The LORD is the portion of mine inheritance and of my cup: thou maintainest my lot. The lines are fallen unto me in pleasant places; yea, I have a goodly heritage. I will bless the LORD, who hath given me counsel: my reins also instruct me in the night seasons. I have set the LORD always before me: because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved. Therefore my heart is glad , and my glory rejoiceth : my flesh also shall rest in hope. For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.

    Hear the right, O LORD, attend unto my cry, give ear unto my prayer, that goeth not out of feigned lips. Let my sentence come forth from thy presence; let thine eyes behold the things that are equal. Thou hast proved mine heart; thou hast visited me in the night; thou hast tried me, and shalt find nothing; I am purposed that my mouth shall not transgress. Concerning the works of men, by the word of thy lips I have kept me from the paths of the destroyer. Hold up my goings in thy paths, that my footsteps slip not. I have called upon thee, for thou wilt hear me, O God: incline thine ear unto me, and hear my speech. Shew thy marvellous lovingkindness, O thou that savest by thy right hand them which put their trust in thee from those that rise up against them. Keep me as the apple of the eye , hide me under the shadow of thy wings, From the wicked that oppress me, from my deadly enemies , who compass me about. They are inclosed in their own fat: with their mouth they speak proudly. They have now compassed us in our steps: they have set their eyes bowing down to the earth; Like as a lion that is greedy of his prey, and as it were a young lion lurking in secret places. Arise, O LORD, disappoint him, cast him down: deliver my soul from the wicked, which is thy sword: From men which are thy hand, O LORD, from men of the world, which have their portion in this life, and whose belly thou fillest with thy hid treasure: they are full of children, and leave the rest of their substance to their babes. As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness.

    I will love thee, O LORD, my strength. The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust ; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower. I will call upon the LORD, who is worthy to be praised: so shall I be saved from mine enemies. The sorrows of death compassed me, and the floods of ungodly men made me afraid. The sorrows of hell compassed me about : the snares of death prevented me. In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried unto my God: he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came before him, even into his ears. Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations also of the hills moved and were shaken, because he was wroth. There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured : coals were kindled by it. He bowed the heavens also, and came down : and darkness was under his feet. And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly : yea, he did fly upon the wings of the wind. He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies. At the brightness that was before him his thick clouds passed , hail stones and coals of fire. The LORD also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire. Yea, he sent out his arrows, and scattered them; and he shot out lightnings, and discomfited them. Then the channels of waters were seen, and the foundations of the world were discovered at thy rebuke, O LORD, at the blast of the breath of thy nostrils. He sent from above, he took me, he drew me out of many waters. He delivered me from my strong enemy, and from them which hated me: for they were too strong for me. They prevented me in the day of my calamity: but the LORD was my stay. He brought me forth also into a large place; he delivered me, because he delighted in me. The LORD rewarded me according to my righteousness; according to the cleanness of my hands hath he recompensed me. For I have kept the ways of the LORD, and have not wickedly departed from my God. For all his judgments were before me, and I did not put away his statutes from me. I was also upright before him, and I kept myself from mine iniquity. Therefore hath the LORD recompensed me according to my righteousness, according to the cleanness of my hands in his eyesight.

    With the merciful thou wilt shew thyself merciful ; with an upright man thou wilt shew thyself upright ; With the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure ; and with the froward thou wilt shew thyself froward. For thou wilt save the afflicted people; but wilt bring down high looks. For thou wilt light my candle: the LORD my God will enlighten my darkness. For by thee I have run through a troop; and by my God have I leaped over a wall. As for God, his way is perfect: the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all those that trust in him. For who is God save the LORD? or who is a rock save our God? It is God that girdeth me with strength, and maketh my way perfect. He maketh my feet like hinds' feet, and setteth me upon my high places. He teacheth my hands to war, so that a bow of steel is broken by mine arms. Thou hast also given me the shield of thy salvation: and thy right hand hath holden me up , and thy gentleness hath made me great. Thou hast enlarged my steps under me, that my feet did not slip. I have pursued mine enemies , and overtaken them: neither did I turn again till they were consumed. I have wounded them that they were not able to rise : they are fallen under my feet. For thou hast girded me with strength unto the battle: thou hast subdued under me those that rose up against me. Thou hast also given me the necks of mine enemies ; that I might destroy them that hate me. They cried , but there was none to save them: even unto the LORD, but he answered them not. Then did I beat them small as the dust before the wind: I did cast them out as the dirt in the streets. Thou hast delivered me from the strivings of the people; and thou hast made me the head of the heathen: a people whom I have not known shall serve me. As soon as they hear of me, they shall obey me: the strangers shall submit themselves unto me. The strangers shall fade away, and be afraid out of their close places. The LORD liveth; and blessed be my rock; and let the God of my salvation be exalted. It is God that avengeth me, and subdueth the people under me. He delivereth me from mine enemies : yea, thou liftest me up above those that rise up against me: thou hast delivered me from the violent man. Therefore will I give thanks unto thee, O LORD, among the heathen, and sing praises unto thy name. Great deliverance giveth he to his king; and sheweth mercy to his anointed, to David, and to his seed for evermore.

    The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof. The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure , making wise the simple. The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes. The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether. More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb. Moreover by them is thy servant warned : and in keeping of them there is great reward. Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults. Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright , and I shall be innocent from the great transgression. Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer .

    The LORD hear thee in the day of trouble; the name of the God of Jacob defend thee; Send thee help from the sanctuary, and strengthen thee out of Zion; Remember all thy offerings, and accept thy burnt sacrifice; Selah. Grant thee according to thine own heart, and fulfil all thy counsel. We will rejoice in thy salvation, and in the name of our God we will set up our banners: the LORD fulfil all thy petitions. Now know I that the LORD saveth his anointed; he will hear him from his holy heaven with the saving strength of his right hand. Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the LORD our God. They are brought down and fallen: but we are risen , and stand upright. Save, LORD: let the king hear us when we call .

    The king shall joy in thy strength, O LORD; and in thy salvation how greatly shall he rejoice! Thou hast given him his heart's desire, and hast not withholden the request of his lips. Selah. For thou preventest him with the blessings of goodness: thou settest a crown of pure gold on his head. He asked life of thee, and thou gavest it him, even length of days for ever and ever. His glory is great in thy salvation: honour and majesty hast thou laid upon him. For thou hast made him most blessed for ever: thou hast made him exceeding glad with thy countenance. For the king trusteth in the LORD, and through the mercy of the most High he shall not be moved. Thine hand shall find out all thine enemies: thy right hand shall find out those that hate thee. Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine anger: the LORD shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall devour them. Their fruit shalt thou destroy from the earth, and their seed from among the children of men. For they intended evil against thee: they imagined a mischievous device, which they are not able to perform. Therefore shalt thou make them turn their back, when thou shalt make ready thine arrows upon thy strings against the face of them. Be thou exalted, LORD, in thine own strength: so will we sing and praise thy power.

    My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel. Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them. They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded. But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people. All they that see me laugh me to scorn : they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him. But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts. I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly. Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help. Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round. They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion. I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.

    My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death. For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me. Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog. Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns. I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee. Ye that fear the LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel. For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard. My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him. The meek shall eat and be satisfied : they shall praise the LORD that seek him: your heart shall live for ever. All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee. For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations. All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship : all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul. A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation. They shall come , and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born , that he hath done this.

    The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever .

    The earth is the LORD'S, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods. Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place? He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation. This is the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah. Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up , ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle. Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up , ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory.

    Unto thee, O LORD, do I lift up my soul. O my God, I trust in thee: let me not be ashamed , let not mine enemies triumph over me. Yea, let none that wait on thee be ashamed: let them be ashamed which transgress without cause. Shew me thy ways, O LORD; teach me thy paths. Lead me in thy truth, and teach me: for thou art the God of my salvation; on thee do I wait all the day. Remember, O LORD, thy tender mercies and thy lovingkindnesses; for they have been ever of old. Remember not the sins of my youth, nor my transgressions: according to thy mercy remember thou me for thy goodness' sake, O LORD. Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way. The meek will he guide in judgment: and the meek will he teach his way. All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies. For thy name's sake, O LORD, pardon mine iniquity; for it is great. What man is he that feareth the LORD? him shall he teach in the way that he shall choose. His soul shall dwell at ease; and his seed shall inherit the earth. The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant. Mine eyes are ever toward the LORD; for he shall pluck my feet out of the net. Turn thee unto me, and have mercy upon me; for I am desolate and afflicted. The troubles of my heart are enlarged : O bring thou me out of my distresses. Look upon mine affliction and my pain; and forgive all my sins. Consider mine enemies ; for they are many ; and they hate me with cruel hatred. O keep my soul, and deliver me: let me not be ashamed; for I put my trust in thee. Let integrity and uprightness preserve me; for I wait on thee. Redeem Israel, O God, out of all his troubles.

    Judge me, O LORD; for I have walked in mine integrity: I have trusted also in the LORD; therefore I shall not slide. Examine me, O LORD, and prove me; try my reins and my heart. For thy lovingkindness is before mine eyes: and I have walked in thy truth. I have not sat with vain persons, neither will I go in with dissemblers. I have hated the congregation of evil doers ; and will not sit with the wicked. I will wash mine hands in innocency: so will I compass thine altar, O LORD: That I may publish with the voice of thanksgiving, and tell of all thy wondrous works. LORD, I have loved the habitation of thy house, and the place where thine honour dwelleth. Gather not my soul with sinners, nor my life with bloody men: In whose hands is mischief, and their right hand is full of bribes. But as for me, I will walk in mine integrity: redeem me, and be merciful unto me. My foot standeth in an even place: in the congregations will I bless the LORD.

    The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? When the wicked , even mine enemies and my foes , came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell. Though an host should encamp against me, my heart shall not fear : though war should rise against me, in this will I be confident. One thing have I desired of the LORD, that will I seek after; that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of the LORD, and to enquire in his temple. For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock. 6 And now shall mine head be lifted up above mine enemies round about me: therefore will I offer in his tabernacle sacrifices of joy; I will sing , yea, I will sing praises unto the LORD. Hear , O LORD, when I cry with my voice: have mercy also upon me, and answer me. When thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek. Hide not thy face far from me; put not thy servant away in anger: thou hast been my help; leave me not, neither forsake me, O God of my salvation. When my father and my mother forsake me, then the LORD will take me up. Teach me thy way, O LORD, and lead me in a plain path, because of mine enemies. Deliver me not over unto the will of mine enemies: for false witnesses are risen up against me, and such as breathe out cruelty. I had fainted, unless I had believed to see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the living. Wait on the LORD: be of good courage , and he shall strengthen thine heart: wait , I say, on the LORD.

    Unto thee will I cry , O LORD my rock; be not silent to me: lest, if thou be silent to me, I become like them that go down into the pit. Hear the voice of my supplications, when I cry unto thee, when I lift up my hands toward thy holy oracle. Draw me not away with the wicked, and with the workers of iniquity, which speak peace to their neighbours, but mischief is in their hearts. Give them according to their deeds, and according to the wickedness of their endeavours: give them after the work of their hands; render to them their desert. Because they regard not the works of the LORD, nor the operation of his hands, he shall destroy them, and not build them up. Blessed be the LORD, because he hath heard the voice of my supplications. The LORD is my strength and my shield; my heart trusted in him, and I am helped : therefore my heart greatly rejoiceth ; and with my song will I praise him. The LORD is their strength, and he is the saving strength of his anointed. Save thy people, and bless thine inheritance: feed them also, and lift them up for ever.

    Give unto the LORD, O ye mighty , give unto the LORD glory and strength. Give unto the LORD the glory due unto his name; worship the LORD in the beauty of holiness. The voice of the LORD is upon the waters: the God of glory thundereth : the LORD is upon many waters. The voice of the LORD is powerful; the voice of the LORD is full of majesty. The voice of the LORD breaketh the cedars; yea, the LORD breaketh the cedars of Lebanon. He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn. The voice of the LORD divideth the flames of fire. The voice of the LORD shaketh the wilderness; the LORD shaketh the wilderness of Kadesh. The voice of the LORD maketh the hinds to calve , and discovereth the forests: and in his temple doth every one speak of his glory. The LORD sitteth upon the flood; yea, the LORD sitteth King for ever. The LORD will give strength unto his people; the LORD will bless his people with peace.

    I will extol thee, O LORD; for thou hast lifted me up , and hast not made my foes to rejoice over me. O LORD my God, I cried unto thee, and thou hast healed me. O LORD, thou hast brought up my soul from the grave: thou hast kept me alive , that I should not go down to the pit. Sing unto the LORD, O ye saints of his, and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness. For his anger endureth but a moment; in his favour is life: weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning. And in my prosperity I said , I shall never be moved. LORD, by thy favour thou hast made my mountain to stand strong: thou didst hide thy face, and I was troubled. I cried to thee, O LORD; and unto the LORD I made supplication. What profit is there in my blood, when I go down to the pit? Shall the dust praise thee? shall it declare thy truth? Hear, O LORD, and have mercy upon me: LORD, be thou my helper. Thou hast turned for me my mourning into dancing: thou hast put off my sackcloth, and girded me with gladness; To the end that my glory may sing praise to thee, and not be silent. O LORD my God, I will give thanks unto thee for ever.


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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:26 pm

    I just experienced several interesting things within one hour. I went for a walk in a natural-setting where very few people are encountered -- but I encountered someone I know (who is quite spiritual and progressive). Then I encountered an owl (which is a rare occurrence). Then I encountered an eagle (which is somewhat less rare). Then I watched a large Boeing jet flying in very close proximity to what appeared to be a small chase-jet. They went behind some trees for about 15 seconds -- and when the Boeing reemerged -- the chase-jet was gone -- and I couldn't hear anything but the Boeing. The chase-jet never reappeared. Anyway -- I thought all of this was somewhat strange -- but I shouldn't have been surprised -- because my life is rather strange. For example -- I continue to see small white wisps of light between me and the computer-monitor -- especially when I have just posted something especially controversial or provocative. It's as if I'm being supernaturally observed. My pulse doesn't even increase -- even though I am slightly annoyed.
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    This Thread Often Feels Like a Support-Group Gone Bad!!
    devakas wrote:maya is troubling you, like those in cocoon serpantina thuban religion..., like those mayavadis. Best to you.devakas
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you devakas. I sometimes think that those who have the clearest picture of what's really going on (other than Vaticaan-Insiders) are people who are in Secret Mental Institutions. Siriusly. They know so much -- and have been through so much -- that they can no longer function in the 'Real-World'. At some point, one probably needs to just go in a different direction. I'm at the point where I think that might be a wise move for myself.

    Amazon has a three-pack of 'Children of the Gods', 'Stargate Continuum', and 'The Ark of Truth'. I rewatch these from time to time -- and I use them as visual-aids and conceptual-crutches. There is a bit of a 'Biblical-British' theme in this thread, which sort of ties everything together. I don't know how to properly describe how to use this thread to launch your own Political and Theological Science-Fiction. In fact, there might not be enough here to really get people on the same page I am on -- which actually might be just as well. However, I keep hoping that the right writers and Hollywood types can pick-up enough clues (combined with their 'insider' sources -- to properly inform the General Public of what they need to know to survive and thrive in the coming years. Unfortunately, I keep sensing a 'train-wreck' -- no matter which regime is in charge of the madness. I continue to think that this Solar System and the Human Race are in HUGE trouble -- and I'm sure I don't know the half of it.

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    Aquaries1111 wrote:Thanks Oxy for the link.

    Don't give up... Thought creates energy and if that is all we do then nothing wrong with that.. So far I have discerned that your intentions are right on track with many of us.. You go to extreme depth in your thought processes which allow the rest of us to ask similar questions.. what answers we may retrieve is anybody's guess.. I can tell you this.. I woke up this morning knowing I had a dream and I could not for the life of me remember it.. I set my intention to remember it somewhere through the day and as I was tranced looking at the picture I linked earlier (the one you coined as Mary 1) the dream came back to me in full fluidity.. Mind you, it wasn't pretty... but nevertheless our Mind works in "mysterious ways".. Keep up the Great Work...
    Thank-you A1. I have found the posts by Carol, Mercuriel, Brook, and Lionhawk to be particularly interesting -- here, and in the original and now closed site. They know a lot more than I do. http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=54 I suspect they only reveal bits and pieces of what they really know. I somehow need to get a better handle on the territory I've already covered. I think I sound a lot 'brighter' in my posts than I do in 'real-life'. I rarely talk about any of this 'stuff' -- and when I do, I am very hesitant and guarded. It's so easy to go off 'half-cocked' in this area of research and speculation.

    Thank-you We Are You. I think I need to study the Mormons. I've done some of this in the past, and 'No Man Knows My History' is an excellent reference. Studying the LDS, SDA, and Roman Catholic churches can be quite educational. They all think of themselves as being 'the one true church' -- and frankly why would any church wish to be 'just another church'??!! I don't recommend either leaving or joining these churches -- but they should be studied very closely.

    What might 'Solar System Canon Law' look like??? You know -- a collection of laws, procedures, ceremonies, etc. -- which would apply throughout the solar system -- and which might harmonize with the laws, procedures, ceremonies, etc. found throughout the galaxy. I wish to make it clear that I am NOT opposed to law, order, procedure, ceremony, dignity, tradition, etc, etc. -- provided that all of it MAKES SENSE. The Bible is a Must-Read -- yet it is lacking regarding all of the above. I have suggested that the Teachings Attributed to Jesus take precedence over Canon Law -- but perhaps the Canon Law format is worth preserving. What if the Teachings of Jesus, the U.S. Constitution, the Latin Mass, and the 1928 Book of Common Prayer were somehow integrated and harmonized in a New, Relevant, and Crystal-Clear 'Solar System Canon Law'? I'm not suggesting that this is the way things should be -- yet I am looking for a dignified, proper, ethical, and simplified modality of solar system governance -- which might provide a stable core -- yet which would protect religious and political responsible-freedom throughout the solar system. Do you see my point?? I really need some help with all of this. This is the sort of thing which would probably anger everyone -- for legion reasons. I keep wondering if there are human solar systems where this sort of thing has been up and running for thousands of years??!! We might be VERY surprised when the veil of secrecy and deception is lifted -- and we are presented with a clear picture of the way things REALLY are -- throughout the galaxy.

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    Micjer wrote:Thanks Mudra.  Interesting interviews.  Lucky these two girls saw the light and got out.  Notice how both girls said they were driven to the point of considering suicide.

    There are many cults and they all work the same way.  Use of fear and punishment.

    Luke
    Does this make most governments and religions 'cults'?? There probably has to be a reasonable system of rewards and punishments in any family, organization, or civilization -- but the extreme, dishonest, and unreasonable systems trouble me greatly. Law and Order are essential -- but I much prefer Self-Discipline over State-Discipline. The More Responsible -- the More Freedom. The Less Responsible -- the Less Freedom. This is really pretty simple.
    Here is some more Sherry Shriner to brighten-up your week!! http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2012/07/03/monday-night-with-sherry-shriner
    Aquaries1111 wrote:Thanks Oxy,

    I'm really enjoying your material.. Indeed..

    Thank-you A1. I'll have to go see 'Brave' -- even though I very rarely go to movies. The last movie I went to see was 'Legion' (which was a mixed-bag for me). There are Political and Theological lessons and messages EVERYWHERE. I guess I just want people to think about Politics and Religion in whatever context suites their fancy -- whether it be a Novus Ordo Mass, a Traditional Latin Mass, an Evangelical Service, a Vintage Car Race, a Live Steam Club, a Baseball Game, a Football Game, a Movie, a TV Show, a Coffee-Shop, a Road-Trip -- WHATEVER. However, I keep thinking about Idealized Versions of a Hypothetical Orion-Sirius-Aldebaran-Atlantean-Babylonian-Egyptian-Grecian-Roman-British-American Empire -- with absolutely no bullshit or corruption. Andromeda, the Pleiades (and ?????) might fit into this hypothesis as well -- but the stated Hypothetical Empire seems to be both Problem and Solution. I continue to view both Humanity and Divinity as being both Good and Evil -- with many Shades of Grey. I continue to model the possibility that Humanity (and possibly the Greys) are Recent Subsets of an Ancient Traditional and Theocratic  Draconian-Reptilian Race. I continue to model the possibility that the souls of the Reptilians, Greys, and Humans are Interdimensional-Reptilian in nature -- and that on a Soul-Level we might be Relatives and 'All One' -- which is one reason why the term 'Namaste' might be extremely important relative to a resolution of galactic governance issues. This thread is more of a 'Cry for Help' than it is a 'Know It All' phenomenon. The one who claimed to be an Ancient Egyptian Deity asked me if I were ready to 'Run the World' (or something to that effect) -- and I responded that 'It Was Too Complicated' -- which is why I am leaning toward a 10,000 Representative -- Namaste-Constitutional-Responsible-Freedom United States of the Solar System -- which incorporates the Vatican, the City of London, Washington D.C., the United Nations, and the Moon -- in a Purified and Reformed Version of That Which Presently Exists. Obviously, I don't know what's really going-on -- and I guess I might prefer Going to Heaven -- but what if Abandoning Ship might be the End of the Human Race as We Know It??? There are too many unknowns and too much bullshit. This seems to be a Sinister and Deceptive 'Most Dangerous Game' -- with Unimaginably High Stakes.

    A1, you look a lot less like 'Erica Evans' in your new avatar! Do you consider Dragons to be real, imaginary (or both)? If real, do you consider Dragons to be physical, spiritual (or both)? Do you consider Dragons to be good, evil (or both)? I have sometimes wondered if Greys are Teenage Reptilians -- and if Dracs are Young-Adult to Middle-Aged Reptilians -- and if Dragons are Elder-Statesman Reptilians???!!! The Bible states that 'Michael was wroth with the Dragon'. Was Michael a Progressive-Drac who challenged the Traditional-Dragon Galactic Powers That Be???!!! Did this result in the War in Heaven???!!! What if we are Interdimensional-Reptilians on the Soul-Level???!!! What if we are Mammalian-Reptilians???!!! Could our souls animate Grey-Bodies???!!! Drac-Bodies???!!! Dragon-Bodies???!!! What were we before we were Human???!!! What will we be if and when we are no longer Human???!!! Would the answer frighten us???!!! I've asked these questions before -- but in somewhat different ways. What a Can of Worms!!! Or, is it a Can of Snakes???!!!

    One more thing. Rewatch 'The Agony and the Ecstasy'. I find Michelangelo to be especially interesting. For one so refined -- he seemed to live like a tramp. He also seemed to know way too much. Interesting. Don't stop thinking about Isis, Ra, Moses, and Aaron -- past, present, and future (reincarnationally and archangelically). Rewatch 'The Ring of Power' in light of everything presented thus far in this thread. Who REALLY invented You Tube and the Internet??? What Would Gore Say? You might be surprised. Has You Tube and the Internet Turned the Tide in the Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan in the Conflict of the Ages??? I feel as if I need to watch 'Ring of Power' over and over again -- while reading 'Jesus: Last of the Pharaohs', 'The Gods of Eden', 'Rule by Secrecy', 'The Twelth Planet', 'The Great Controversy', 'The Red Pill Threads', and 'The United States of the Solar System Thread'. I have no idea how much of all of this might be true -- but it might help prepare me for 'The Real Truth'. Again, all of this is intended to help prepare us for what might be coming. This is a Boot-Camp for a New Solar System and a Brave New Universe.

    Some days I just feel like hiding and crying. Today is one of those days. Imagine how I might react to the 'Truth, the Whole Truth, and Nothing But the Truth'??? Perhaps I am being sheltered by silence. Or, perhaps Those Who Know are Hiding Behind a Veil of Silence and Secrecy. Those Who Talk -- Don't Know. Those Who Know -- Don't Talk. But really, perhaps the Veil of Secrecy should be opened slowly -- rather than rending it in twain from top to bottom.
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    magamud wrote:Ortho have you thought of going more to Devakas philosophy?  It might do you some good?  Give thinking a break? Just a thought.
    devakas wrote:pope honestly resigned as there is no potency anymore, the love to God potency. its not there. listen what I gave you long time ago, listen again, there are clues, improve your hearing, our senses are important, our 5 senses can be improved by listening, meditation helps. all is word, all is sound. mists are mists
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you magamud and devakas. I'll take a closer look at India. I'll do this over the next few days.
    devakas wrote:there is higher knowledge, bona fide knowledge.
    magamud wrote:Dont get to high Devakas geek
    Brook wrote:
    A freethinker opinion;
    magamud wrote:Its pretty obvious how religions get corrupted but do you throw the baby out with the bathwater?  It appears many will do, as to why atheism and New age deism will be the new religion for the coming millennia.  Its pretty simple, there is a law from God a perspective that is lost amongst fundamentalism and freedom.  This simple concept which alludes most of our populations is spoke of by Jesus that you just need to see what is in front of your nose.  So, when you pass on and find out that the truth was in front of your face is kind of a bummer.  So not seeing this pisses people off and they call this hell.  Then there are some who dont want to follow gods law like the devil who creates a ponzie scheme to fool most of us.  So in one sense the corruption of power in religion due to not knowing the truth uses Fear to keep people in its program.  Wheat from the chaff indeed.

    orthodoxymoron wrote:
    magamud wrote:The confusion of not understanding the Blitzkrieg of Tyranny on our species is due to not knowing the Law of the Creator.  Satan is gathering his flock right now.  Forming his womb and collecting his sycophants to help ease his suffering while Gods son is in his presence.  
    undefined wrote:Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.


    Revelations 12:12
    magamud wrote:I find it ironic that most of the No mind teachers can speak about bliss when their comforts are supported by material and sycophant means.  They have money, they have Guru status and they have an infinite amount of people who are looking for any spiritual knowledge.  And how convenient if logic corners them in their mysticism, they can say it just does not exist.  Buddha is not pleased one bit on the evolution of his knowledge.  Im not judging im just making an observation.  I dont blame people for trying to find some foundation.  Faith is not easy...
    magamud wrote:For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

    Ephesians 6:12

    Thank-you devakas, magamud, and Brook. I think most philosophy, theology, and mythology is highly-problematic and/or pure unmitigated poppycock BUT that there is a Very Real Philosophical and Theological Truth which is NOT Mythology. However -- it takes a helluva lot of perspiration and inspiration to reach this "Higher-Knowledge" AND most of us probably will NOT like the View from the Top of the Pyramid. I'm currently considering this solar system as being Purgatory Incorporated -- and being run by a CEO who is Other-Than-Human -- and who doesn't like Mankind (perhaps for legitimate reasons). I'm thinking they play a wide variety of roles -- and can appear in whatever physicality they choose  -- male, female, hermaphrodite, grey, reptilian, human -- whatever and whoever. I tend to think that "Fallen and Sinful" Human-Nature is neither "Fallen" or "Sinful" BUT that the Interdimensional-Souls which animate most (or all) humans (and other than humans) in this particular solar system ARE "Fallen" and "Sinful". I continue to speculate that the Creator of Humanity has been in exile for thousands (or millions) of years -- and, in essence, the Antichrist has been ruling humanity since the Garden of Eden. However, if the Creator were to return to claim what is rightfully theirs (presumably) -- THEY might be labeled as "Antichrist". But what if the Malevolent Ruler of Humanity has played the role of "Christ"?? Their replacement would essentially be "Antichrist" (in a 'good' way)!!! This thing could get really, really tricky and confusing. Once again, all of this madness is turning me into a Basket-Case. BTW -- I used to LOVE playing the Toccata and Fugue in D-Minor by J.S. Bach -- on the biggest pipe-organs I could find!!

    Here is a change of pace. I wonder what the Dracs and Greys think about the madness contained within this post (especially regarding the police-chases)??!! Sometimes it's very difficult to defend the Human Race. I completely understand that Earth and Humanity are a mess in so many ways -- yet there is so much good and excellence to counterbalance the madness. Human Life is a Real Mixed Bag. I frankly don't know what to do. I have made some suggestions and speculations -- but making things better might be much more difficult than even I think it might be.

    Motorcycle Hill-Climbing!!!

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYX1JFsf0TA&feature=related
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxO4lTlh0YU&feature=related

    How 'bout some Extreme-Machines???!!!

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmzVWEAD6wA&feature=related
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwrel&v=DARjXKRq8Ik&NR=1
    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAaV2BrVt0A&feature=related
    4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjGOBMBBLQU&feature=related
    5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwSdOleA_uc&feature=related
    6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6USO8krrmU&feature=related
    7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSgLjBZudHY&feature=related
    8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNTan4qAiFg&feature=related

    They have ways to make you stop. Many ways. You haven't seen anything yet...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g9ssQSV6UA

    I wonder what they say about this sort of thing on the Dark Side of the Moon????

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    Aquaries1111 wrote:Wow Oxy,

    What a "ride"...
    I think I met Bruce Brown -- the producer of 'On Any Sunday' -- but I'm not sure. This is one of my favorite movies (featuring Steve McQueen)!! It's a classic which is now over 40 years old!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLtBxmKll6U

    Here are several clips from an old classic (featuring Steve McQueen) -- 'Le Mans'!!

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=Ytn7C9UJ5mo&NR=1
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeLfH0I9RRI
    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=srGafJ6nPvQ

    I'd love to race an old Porsche 917K!!! It's gotta be a short-tail!!! Some of you know why...

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj39mMan1hg&feature=relmfu
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=resu77vBKm0&feature=related

    Actually, the 917-30 is the real speedster (with 1,000 bhp)!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg4m1EGZO2k&feature=related

    Here's one of my favorite classic car-chases (featuring Steve McQueen)!!

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31JgMAHVeg0
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk9SZbrh_Tg

    Here's another classic car chase!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE2i08S3YeY&feature=related

    Here's one of my favorite classic cars!!

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPcMCyUDViQ&feature=related
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJMepJfotZo&feature=relmfu
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    I keep wondering how independent America really is??? Is independence necessarily a good thing??? Should the Great Goal be Independence and Freedom??? I have lately been passively promoting the idea that Responsibility is the Goal -- with appropriate levels of Freedom and Independence as the Products of Responsibility -- as the Fruit, and not the Root. I've also been attempting to see things through the eyes of both Rulers and Rebels -- which has probably made both sides mad at me. What is the True Nature of the Divinity Within Humanity? I have been arguing for the continued existence of Male and Female Human-Physicality -- yet Earth and Humanity continue to be Highly Problematic. I continue to passively promote the idea that a Namaste-Constitutional-Responsible-Freedom United States of the Solar System (administered by 10,000 PhD-Representatives associated with the City-States, the United Nations, and the Moon) might make things exponentially better in this Neck of the Galaxy. I have tried thinking about this by imagining living and working in small apartment-offices in the City-States, the United Nations, and the Moon -- as sort of a Questioning-Watcher. The imagination is a wonderful thing.

    Despite all of the stupid and horrible things they have been involved with -- I would still like to have marathon conversations with people like Zbignew Brzezinski, George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, the Rothschilds, the Queen, the Pope, President Obama, Bill and Hillary Clinton, et al. Speaking for several months with one who claimed to be an Ancient Egyptian Deity was most interesting -- but they were VERY restrained in revealing sensitive and secret information -- and they refused to answer 90% of my questions. I don't know who they REALLY were -- but I have several theories (which I will NEVER discuss). I enjoyed speaking with them -- regardless of a perceived Dark and Troubled History -- because they knew what they were talking about. In many ways, we seemed to be on the 'same-page' -- but in very different ways. I simply wish to keep my eyes and ears open to ALL CONCERNED -- but this doesn't mean that I wouldn't be somewhat irreverent and questioning. I continued making probing and speculative posts while I conversed with 'Said Deity' -- and I very indirectly used some of the information they revealed to me -- in the formulation of these posts. I attempted to be friendly -- yet aloof and neutral. In a sense -- I was both Friend and Foe -- toward them. A lot of people wouldn't have spoken with them at all -- and a lot of people would've attempted to 'Do Business' with them. I like to think that I could rationally and politely speak with Anyone (human or otherwise) -- under Any circumstances. I have repeatedly stated that I like to listen, watch, and post. This might be my MO -- regardless of what the future holds.

    What if a lot of space-travel occurs via some sort of an 'Avatar' program -- or a soul-transference program?? You know using some sort of a super tough body or Cylon-type 'container' to withstand the harsh conditions found in space??? What if even the Apollo program used an 'Avatar' and/or an 'Anti-Gravity' modality?? I think we really went to the Moon -- but I think we were already there when we 'went' -- and I don't think we 'went' in the manner in which we said that we 'went'. It wouldn't surprise me if most all of the 'Who's Who' of Banking, Politics, Religion, etc. have been at least to the Moon -- in some sort of a body (their own or otherwise). I think we're going to be shocked by what we learn in the next couple of years. Actually, the truth seems to be out-there if one takes the time and energy to do some extensive research and reflection. Disclosure seems to be occurring -- and probably has been occurring -- for at least a couple of decades. However, the pace of the disclosure seems to be increasing. A lot of us are probably going to get 'sick' as we are exposed to some very upsetting and disorienting information.

    I'm sorry if you don't like my 'One Nation Under God?' below -- but we should consider the possibility of both Good and Evil Deities who might travel in unconventional-spacecraft -- and who might give the President their marching-orders. I frankly don't have a problem with the concept of a Good God and/or Goddess who travels through space in a UFO. Why might that be a problem?? I simply want this solar system to be significantly improved -- especially regarding eliminating suffering and warfare. Game-Playing gives meaning to life -- but we seem to go out of our way to play some very dangerous games!! I once wrote a college paper titled 'War: The Ultimate Sport'. If we eliminate war -- what will young men do to prove themselves?? I once spoke with a psychiatrist about this topic. Duty! Country! Honor! I like the technology, hardware, strategy, discipline, uniforms, parades, etc. -- but I hate the hatred, misery, blood, guts, destruction, body-bags, funerals, massive-debt, etc, etc. It's sort of sad -- isn't it???

    I'd still appreciate seeing a scholarly-critique of my internet-activities (but especially this thread). I've been requesting this for several years now -- with no results. This work is exploratory in nature -- rather than being some sort of a verdict -- although with the proper research and validation, it might be turned into some sort of a verdict (with reasonable modifications). I previously requested the limited assistance of Benevolent Beings relative to a United States of the Solar System (a couple of years ago) -- yet I still don't know what's really going on in this solar system. To definitively and definitely follow-through on my general proposals would require exhaustive and unbiased research. I'm still flying-blind.

    One more thing. I don't know what levels of appreciation and/or disapproval to exhibit -- and I don't know where to direct either. I wish to thank all those who have tried to 'do the right thing' throughout history. I hesitate to condemn -- because I don't know how much of a Reincarnational Bad@$$ I might be. I obviously desire liberty and justice for all -- yet many of us holier-than-thou types might perform reprehensible-acts if provided with sufficient opportunities. I guess this is one reason why I lean toward the 10,000 PhD-Representative thing -- rather than some sort of a nasty dictatorship or theocracy. On the other hand -- there probably should be some sort of a CEO with some sort of divine status -- as an authority of last resort -- or something like that. I have no idea what the proper balance of power might look like. I also might have the number of representatives wrong -- but really -- this is a rather large solar system -- with a lot to keep track of -- and it might be rather difficult to corrupt 10,000 really bright and moral people. Still -- I worry constantly about things spiraling out of control. It wouldn't take much, now would it??? Even though I have not spoken of all of the races, religions, and regions of the solar system -- I intend no partiality. I have merely been seeking common-denominators and evolutionary-transformations of that which presently exists relative to solar system governance. I am merely seeking a stable center -- so that we don't exterminate ourselves -- and so that we do not provoke the universe to save us the trouble -- and do it for us...



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    Do we live in Heaven -- Purgatory -- Hell -- All of the Above -- or None of the Above?? Do we need to "Go to a Better Place" -- "Make This a Better Place" -- "Destroy This Place" -- All of the Above -- or None of the Above?? Does "Saving the World and Humanity" constitute "Rebellion Against God"?? Have Irreversible Divine Judgments Against Humanity been issued in antiquity from the "foundation of the world"?? Is the "Human Potential Movement" an "Abominable Heresy"?? Are "Positive-Thinking and Self-Esteem" even worse?? Is one required to have a prestigious-degree -- security-clearance -- and a huge-ego -- to be duly qualified and authorized to consider such things??
    Eartheart wrote:
    ('Earth')
    She showed me her mooncalendar. With those sunrise prayertimes.
    Yeah, she even hung them beside my cyberstation. I had to change
    the leaves as time flowed on. Pure data, no comentary or comment.
    The evening grows and spoils us on heavenly spirals, thick like molten
    chocolate and sweet like cococonfeteria from the counter downtown.
    Teatime is long gone, we skippt water instead and a glas roughe bloo-
    berryjuice from some toast, broad out by Medicinewooman and myself
    as Drummer. Together with my jamaican friend that drumms startet to sing
    and we heard the rightgous vibe tuning the circle and while medicinegirl
    slapped hands with me i sang to the Wakantanka fluteplay, to our solarbirdy freedom
    and those luster visions of post-shift children at play. Dreams of those fair
    loving magical spells, carefully given through the generations and ages.
    You know, it is the the night before fullmoon, ans she hidingbehind clouds,
    with thounder and lightning over the far alpine rocks. A small sticky fire,
    while its summer warmed undthe groove of high trees. They embrace us like
    home scurity and our bodies are blown in the wind. Excellence and Majesty
    give their shanti vibe and lead those thursty children beyond Sion to the well.

    Probably because some guests wanted it so urgent, Master Jesus appeared,
    swifft and in raw mood he commandet Peace & Loove for my Homeplanet,
    discounting some spooky timelines and dropping the magnetic wrapps. Right
    then he led me around the circle to do medicine on everyones aural  envelopes.
    The extraordinary vibe went in spirals from our Eartheart into the skys of  Eden.
    I was so happy in this starlighted clearness he left ringing insight me, Gauranitai...

    Everything happend simultanously, but there was no action, pure spirit flowering
    and flowing under lightbody or soulintents into sacral dynamics. Purifications!
    There was no disrupter signal in the divine enfulgence which stayed around us.

    By the way he must have read my heartsore mnemos, he keeps sending me aural
    visions, concerning our dislike of Comtes, borgclubs and Merkaba perfected devices.
    And he showed me their full historic angels embedded in timeless Leela of our
    inner awakening. And concerning my pardon about how we are all made by dream.
    He showed me St. germain in those middleages, with his young friend some kind of
    channeling done with the anticrusader moovement, burning for the black madonna.
    He must there have concieved this clorious vision of building up this trust which will
    bring the united treachery of mankind to the divie children to build the Homeplanet.
    It was like a David wills on cosmic expo & surf cup banquett on Fathers blessing day.

    Naive and missing the cruzification of modern activism, their good paying clients used
    to spy and cunningly loot anything for their hungry ghosts and psychopath's grasp.
    In the end the whole jesuit banking structures are taken from those soires of spirit,
    twisted to the mean logistics of vatican and brutish collonial expansion. Beware!
    Holy Spirit wont be mislead by statistics.
    May all the Loove surround you and guide your way home.  So asked about the recent
    Miracle at Fatima, why Rome is excommunicated and doomed? Instead let us go like
    a Team to take the vatican over, free all the spiritual civilisation on Gaya and use some funds
    to invite oxymoron and put the new solar namaste soulflares into rule.
    He made a very complex gesture to me, expressing multidim stillness to all those dire
    questions of our seekers here on the mount of Olives. Concerning "V" and "Ultra"...
    Excellency on physics explained the radiating corefractals inside your 11dim holon
    are wavefree/particlefree PLASMACLUSTER ready to inscent , taken all Yoniversal
    creations inside and all inner  lifestarbeeingness ourside into Gaya, kind of slipknot
    during monopolarisations of planetsphere, orbital relocation??? and fine state-of-the
    Artist Hunab Quo as orgastic fusion generator blesses us with the churned nectar.
    What a folly, Sanander tricked by asian Hong suprematists, them use the sirian lord
    to stop whatever abundance funding, St.Germain taken hostage by fake jews,
    which are used by all unholy alliances simultanously to act out  real stupid, dump
    directives from the seventies of the last century ever. And the germans cant win
    and free the Aldebaran Loove when they cant affort slavic pristesses for their cult.
    But be assured my friends on the surface, its aboutthelifetree and spiritual continium.
    Their cult. And it is about your living spirits, your non-action and transfigurations,
    your realisation of enspacement beyond the arteficial samsara. Pure Land Visison!
    Its your allknowing, not your allquestioning which brings sanity during lift off...

    This skills of multispecies empathy, supraliquid lightbody propulsion, lightship dreamboards,
    and as special ingridient, the burnt soul engravings of 2012 shakti flowering,
    all the divine unfolding which your are longing for!  Hop on de Lightship!
    Wow, Eartheart!! That was quite good!! Was that your work?? I might have to read it several times, in order to discern its deeper meaning -- but I think I got the gist of it. A lot of posts I've encountered over the past several years have been written in a rather complex and obscure language -- which I do not fully appreciate. I'm sure it makes perfect sense within the proper context -- yet this is a context which I am not presently privvy to. Namaste.

    Someone just blew-up a stick of dynamite very close to me (a piece of debri landed next to me)!! I didn't know they were going to do this -- but I didn't jump at all. I never do. I'm always on edge -- but I am never startled -- and I never jump. I didn't even jump when my television (which I never watch) turned itself on, and Rumpelstiltskin said "All You Have to do is Sign on the Dotted-Line"!!! Do we have a deal?? I'll have to check with a Dream-Team of Philadelphia Lawyers (after they've had a chance to examine everything of substance -- with a scanning electron-microscope)!! I'll get back to you!! Namaste.


    Eartheart wrote:
     uff & Yeah! Stuff & Yooh!
    Orthodoxymoron, you made my morning dude, i had several symtoms after checking back on your famous thread to the illusory... And some inner joy, which came in widening intervalls back around. And yeah, i wrote this yeaterday after reading your "independanceday report"... While most of our friends pulled the trigger on their dependencies, hiding in the woods or save coven and grasping after the stars to hold themself in space, i realize my interdependance and lock onto the prescribed drama, go where the heat is and wack the MF into oblivion.

    I mean i X-change with gusto this overcrowded Christ Office with a selfcreated HQ ofthe United States of the Solar System, having just turned around all the dangerous weaponry used against "We the devkids" to realign perspective and outcome of that inherent confrontations.
    So get back with your Dream-Team of Philadelphia Lawyers (lucky you wont need to talk to the chicago ones-hahah!), present us in the Spirit of Tripple-C for Constitiutions, stay in a coherent mood pl.,
    so like fathers prethought and mothers intuitive remembrances.
    The cosmic shakti, even the divine one riding the photonic bowshock is unity in allembracing intelligences, she will cling to our visionary allfrequency output (till it is replaced with an further modelation!!!), creation accomodates real worx. Congrats!
    This friendly Namaste great architecture of yours wakes allready all builders in their graves, countless renegades perished to juice up our ideological fusion generators, which lift our new real out of the earth. it will pass through the whole pyramid of established morons and pass even the 34-level of intimacy with the secret doctrine. Aswe can give straight answers, we cant gostraight ways!
    So lets commune the spiralized souls here in the Mists and get an ultradim mycel to grow into the mastercell, the omni-space which defies zero-space and complements the void with wholeness again.

    By the way thanx for the tube-showtimes, it helps to comprehend your obscure complexity
    The FloydThe CarolBand

    I remember my first real concert was with B.sabbath summer 82 in hungary, we had to travel over 3000km to be on, and it was the end to my screaming around at our highschool-band-stagings. But earnestly, even as youngster i didntvtrip on the metal, but was elevated by the human powers of 73000 fans and the vortex of the concert. See, it was incremental a energetic structure which was in line with what is given through the generations and build upon by all to refine and tune this motivational stimulus of life. Here you go and see what is there left from the surface populus, besides the pollutions. A glorious etherical lifeform, like a holo-kernel, stucked with the multitude and adapted to interdim layers ect...

    Reveal yourself, divine personality and lead us from death to immortality..., from regressive genspliced numbness to Loove, from isolated quarantene to beneficial symbiosis and playfoolness.

    Namaskar
    Thank-you Eartheart. Do you converse with the Thuban crowd?? There is an aspect of that Thuban stuff which is sort of cool -- but I have huge problems with it in its present form. Again, I am on the verge of just concentrating on Astronomy, Egyptology, Jesus-Studies, and Sacred Classical-Music. I'm sort of burned-out on the really crazy and upsetting stuff. In fact, if I had the money, I might just do Live Steam and Vintage Auto Racing. I'm very serious when I say that. On the other hand -- hanging-out with the Jesuits on Mt. Graham might be quite the educational experience -- but from what I hear -- the Jesuits don't like me. That could be a bad thing...

    Here's something to think about. Everyone seems to want Term-Limits for Politicians -- but what about Term-Limits for Brain-Surgeons?? What about all the powerful people (and other than people) in Washington D.C. -- who never leave???? Do we NOT want experienced politicians -- who know what the hell they are doing??? I'm really not kidding when I speak of combining the Best Aspects of the City-States, the United Nations, and the Moon!!! How are the Popes REALLY selected??? Why do they not retire when they have to be wheeled around, and when they have a difficult time staying awake and coherent?? I mean no disrespect here. I simply wish for this world and solar system to be run by the truly Best and Brightest -- who make the best decisions for humanity. Do you see my point??

    Where has the Lord placed each and every one of us?? If we try to better ourselves -- are we rebelling against God?? What is the Will of God?? What is the Law of God?? What was the Pre-Human Law of God?? What was the Law of God to Adam and Eve?? Did the Ten-Commandments predate Exodus 20?? What was the Pre-Human Liturgy?? I keep looking for a Timeless Law and Liturgy. I really wish to be Traditional -- yet History and Tradition seem to present me with a MESS!!! Why is this?? Do the Implications and Ramifications of the Tower of Babel Incident have something to do with this confusion?? I'm faced with a situation where nothing is ever really right -- and where nothing ever really resolves. Is this a nasty series of accidents -- or is it by DESIGN?? Does the Lord lay strong Human Leadership low by raising them up -- and then destroying them -- in a cyclical fashion?? I mean no disrespect. I really don't. I'm simply trying to understand why Earth is not Heaven -- and why Mankind seems to be viewed as being Damaged-Goods and as being Sinful-Human-Flesh. I keep sensing an Ancient and Ugly Multiracial Conflict or Galactic Civil War Among Soul-Relatives. My insides never stop churning. I never have peace. Is trying to make things better considered a treasonous act?? Has a Verdict Been Rendered Against Humanity Which Shall Never Be Rescinded?? Should I just shut-up and suffer???

    Is the Law of God the Word of God -- or 'Every Word That Procedeth Out of the Mouth of God'?? If so, then is the Word of God limited to the 66 Books of the Biblical Canon?? Is the Character of the Old Testament God similar to the Character of the God of the Roman Catholic Church?? Both seem to be rather harsh. Jesus seems quite different. Jesus seems to be quite different than that which is presented in the Pauline Epistles and the Book of Revelation. What's really going on here?? Again, all of this seems like an endless round of madness -- with theological arguments which never resolve. I tired of this mess -- and turned to the Positive Gospel According to Peale and Schuller. Unfortunately, this opened-up a whole new Can of Worms. I can understand why a lot of people abandon religion completely. I don't think they are really Atheists. I just think that they don't want to deal with the Problems and Absurdities. It's a nasty job -- but some of us have to do it. Or do we??? Here is a man who spent a lifetime dealing with Theological Issues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBjkZ5WzBfc This conversation is not fast-paced, but it contains a lot of extremely useful theological information. I attended his classes for years. Studying the leading SDA theologians (throughout the history of the SDA church) might be a VERY interesting study for those disciplined enough to properly do this. I think the Jesuits know what I'm talking about. I guess I'm sort of a Non-Practicing Renegade Ecumenical Seventh-Day Anglican. Do you see my point??? I didn't think so.

    Shouldn't all Protestants be careful students and observers of the Roman Catholic Church??? Shouldn't Protestants think about what changes might make the Roman Catholic Church acceptable to them??? At what point does one call off the dogs??? Some of my answers to these questions are found within this thread -- yet this process deeply frightens me. The problem I seem to be having is information overload and disorientation. I'd like the world to be somewhat simple, stable, and trouble-free -- yet the reality is just the opposite -- and my efforts to resolve the madness lead me into ever greater perplexity, complexity, and uncertainty. This could ultimately result in a Breakdown, Shutdown, and Lockup -- which is why I continue to be very wary about Waking-Up the General-Public. This Info-War thing could get VERY nasty.

    I'm going to re-watch 'Avatar' tonight -- while imagining the context to be within this solar system -- and imagining that there really is an Avatar Program. I guess I'm doing that with nearly all of the sci-fi I watch. I don't really know how to properly proceed with my Political and Theological Science-Fiction. I'm finding that I am posting less and less of what I REALLY think about everything -- because my true thoughts are too radical and difficult to express. I don't think I'm crazy -- but it wouldn't surprise me if I actually go crazy prior to leaving this present container. I am preparing for that possibility -- and I truly do not wish to pull others along with me if that does indeed occur. How do I get to 'checkmate' with all deliberate speed?? I feel as if I am so near -- yet so very far -- from accomplishing whatever it is that I am supposed to be doing. I still don't know what this is Really all about -- and I feel as if I am getting my butt kicked big-time. I mean-well -- yet I seem to be clueless and powerless. BTW -- you wouldn't believe what a nice place I'm working in!!!

    As a child, I enjoyed attending the lectures of Phillip Knox regarding Astronomy and Religion. Here is an old inspirational book titled 'Wonder Worlds' which he wrote. http://www.amazon.com/Wonder-Worlds-Knox-Phillip-L/dp/B003IM3JW8 The following is some Vatican related astronomical stuff!!


    The Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope, aka the VATT, is a 1.8 meter Gregorian telescope observing in the optical and infrared. It is part of the Mount Graham International Observatory. It is situated on Mount Graham in southeast Arizona, and it achieved 'first light', the first starlight to pass through the telescope onto a detector, in 1993. It is operated by the Vatican Observatory, one of the oldest astronomical research institutions in the world, in partnership with The University of Arizona.

    The heart of the telescope is an f/1.0 honeycombed construction, borosilicate primary mirror. The mirror was manufactured at The University of Arizona's Steward Observatory Mirror Laboratory[1], which pioneered both the spin-casting and the stressed-lap polishing techniques which are being used for telescope mirrors that include the 6.5 meter aperture MMT and Magellan telescopes and the two 8.4 meter mirrors of the Large Binocular Telescope. The VATT's mirror is unusually 'fast', f/1, which means that its focal distance is equal to its diameter. Because it has such a short focal length, a Gregorian design could be employed which uses a concave secondary mirror at a point beyond the primary focus; this allows unusually sharp focusing across the field of view.

    The unusual optical design and novel mirror fabrication techniques mean that both the primary and secondary mirrors are among the most exact surfaces ever made for a ground-based telescope. In addition, the skies above Mount Graham are among the most clear, steady, and dark in the continental North America. Seeing of better than one arc-second even without adaptive optics can be achieved on a regular basis.

    Optical System -- Aplanatic Gregorian f/9

    Focal Length -- 16.48 m

    Primary Mirror -- f/1.0, Diameter 1.83 m

    Secondary Mirror -- f/0.9, Diameter 0.38 m (Focus Control: 0.1 micrometre)

    Field of View -- 72 mm (15')

    Scale -- 12.52 "/mm

    Image Quality -- 0.1 ' - 6.8 "

    Mount -- Alt-Az + Derotator

    Given its excellent optical qualities, the telescope has been used primarily for imaging and photometric work, in which it regularly outperforms much larger telescopes located elsewhere. Among the notable results from this telescope have been the discovery of MACHOs in the Andromeda Galaxy; the validation of the Stromvil photometric filter system; evidence for how the shape and dimensions of galaxies have changed over the age of the universe; discovery of the first binary 'Vesta chip' asteroid; and the characterization and classification by visible colors of some 100 Trans-Neptunian objects, most of them fainter than magnitude 21.

    The government of the Vatican City State supports the Vatican Observatory staff and regular research costs, but the cost to build and maintain the VATT itself has come from private donors. The major donors supporting the construction of the telescope were Fred and Alice P. Lennon and Thomas J. Bannan. Benefactors to the Vatican Observatory Foundation[2] continue to support the operating costs of the Alice P. Lennon telescope and its attached Thomas J. Bannan astrophysics facility.

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    Check out the site for the 'Vatican Observatory'! http://www.vaticanobservatory.org/ Here is the wiki entry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_Observatory

    The Vatican Observatory (Specola Vaticana) is an astronomical research and educational institution supported by the Holy See. Originally based in the Roman College of Rome, it now has headquarters and laboratory at the summer residence of the Pope in Castel Gandolfo, Italy, and an observatory at the Mount Graham International Observatory in the United States.[1]

    The Director of the Observatory is Fr. José Gabriel Funes an Argentinian Jesuit. Many distinguished scholars have worked at the Observatory. In 2008, the Templeton Prize was awarded to cosmologist Fr. Michał Heller, a Vatican Observatory Adjunct Scholar. In 2010, the George Van Biesbroeck Prize was awarded to former observatory director, the American Jesuit, Fr. George Coyne.[2]

    The Church has had long-standing interests in astronomy, due to the astronomical basis of the calendar by which holy days and Easter are determined. For instance, the Gregorian Calendar, promulgated in 1582 by Pope Gregory XIII, was developed by the Jesuit mathematician Christoph Clavius at the Collegio Romano from astronomical data.

    In the 18th century, the Papacy actively supported astronomy, establishing the Observatory of the Roman College in 1774. In 1789-1787, the Specola Vaticana in the Tower of the Winds within the Vatican was established under the direction of Msgr. Filippo Luigi Gilii (1756-1821). When Msgr. Gilii died, the Specola was closed down, as inconvenient to students in the city, and with the dome of St. Peter's obstructing its view. Its instruments were transferred to the College Observatory. A third facility, the Observatory of the Capitol, was operated from 1827 to 1870.

    Father Angelo Secchi SJ relocated the College Observatory to the top of Sant'Ignazio di Loyola a Campo Marzio (Church of St. Ignatius in Rome). However, when Father Secchi died in 1878, there was grave tension between the Holy See and the government of Italy. The Observatory was renamed Regio Osservatorio al Collegio Romano ("Royal Observatory at the Roman College"), and remained in operation as such till 1923.

    It was reopened in the 1930s, by which time the smoke and sky-glow of the city made it impossible to conduct useful observations in Rome.[1] The Observatory relocated to Castel Gandolfo, which is 25 kilometres (16 mi) southeast of Rome. By 1961, the same problems now existed at Castel Gandolfo. The Observatory then established the Vatican Observatory Research Group, with offices at the Steward Observatory of the University of Arizona in Tucson, Arizona.[1]

    In 1993, VORG completed the 1.8 metres (71 in) Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope, which is at Mount Graham near Safford, Arizona.

    The Observatory's headquarters remained in Italy at Castel Gandolfo. In early 2008, the Vatican announced that as part of a general reconstruction of the Papal residence, the Observatory would be relocated to a former convent a mile away from the castle, while its former space would be used to provide more room for the reception of diplomatic visitors. There was some commentary that the Observatory was being shut down or cut back, but in fact the Observatory staff welcomed the move[citation needed] . The old quarters in the castle were cramped and very poorly laid out for the Observatory's use. The research activities of VORG in Arizona continue unaffected.

    See also
    Catholic Church and science#Vatican Observatory
    Archaeoastronomy
    Guy Consolmagno
    George Coyne
    José Gabriel Funes
    Michał Heller
    Scientific Perspectives on Divine Action

    References
    Sabino Maffeo: The Vatican Observatory. In the Service of Nine Popes, Vatican Observatory Publications, 2001.

    1.^ a b c Johnson, George (2009-06-22). "Vatican’s Celestial Eye, Seeking Not Angels but Data". The New York Times. Retrieved 2009-06-24.
    2.^ Dennis Sadowski (2010-01-04). "American Astronomical Society honors former Vatican Observatory head". Catholic News Service. Retrieved 2010-01-06.

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    Consider:

    1. Responsibility-Based Moral-Law. (Ethical-System)

    2. Responsibility-Based Civil-Law. (Legal-System)

    3. Responsibility-Based Ceremonial-Law. (Liturgical-System)

    4. Responsibility-Based Constitutional-Law. (Governmental-System)

    How might historical-continuity and universal-applicability be maximized in all of the above?? This might be a lot more important than it might appear to a casual observer. What if a constitution consisting of all of the above were drafted in a Canon-Law Format?? What if all of the above were limited to a thousand points of light?? Imagine crash-landing on a vacant distant planet -- with just you and a very attractive member of the opposite-sex -- facing the prospect of beginning a brand-new civilization!! Think about it...

    At some point, there might be very few secrets in the solar system. The various scientific programs might be subject to public review in real-time -- all the time. However, the general public would have to become mature enough to not go nuts regarding every new radical scientific venture. There would probably have to be a rather high level of public tolerance in exchange for scientific openness. This would also imply a high level of international and interplanetary cooperation -- with a decided lack of factional fighting, racism, and nationalism. This might be nearly impossible to achieve -- especially on a voluntary basis...

    Spend some quality-time defining Satan, Lucifer, Jesus, Mary, and God. Seriously. Don't just write this stuff off as being religious mumbo-jumbo. I have my theories -- but I don't feel comfortable revealing them. I've done some speculation previously -- but I have fine-tuned my ideas -- and they are quite startling -- to say the least...

    I have no doubt that there are some very sick and very powerful people (and other than people) in this solar system. I continue to worry about cornered bad-guys, violent regime changes, poison pills, scorched-earth policies, etc, etc, etc. Things might get VERY ugly. Someone once told me that "Bombs Were Good -- But That Nukes Were Bad". They also hinted at a planned financial collapse -- solar abnormalities -- and some sort of world-wide devastation from the skies. They didn't say a lot -- and I didn't ask a lot of questions. Another individual hinted-at suitcase-nukes. It was very strange. I continue to seek peaceful solutions. Nuff said...

    Here's some more cheer from Sherry Shriner! http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2012/07/05/aliens-in-the-news

    Don't read too much into the following image. I just thought it illustrated some aspects of this post. I don't particularly like or dislike Dick Cheney. I tend to think that a lot of these people are employees and front-men for much more powerful and hidden forces -- but I have no idea about the particulars. I just think we might be in HUGE trouble...

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    Aquaries1111 wrote:Hi Oxy,

    I'm slowly as a "Turtle" peeking in and out of your thread.. I can't get Bill Cooper out of my head (which I don't mind because I Love Him).. but I have the "V" Vendetta and the "Red Sky" sifting through my imagination now.. and so I know I need to do a little more research on this.. I have not watched Vendetta and have only seen the Red Sky in the V series from time to time.. I'm wondering if this is symbolic of some Sky Quakes we will experience.. Now I will share with you an experience I had yesterday.. I had just posted on Bill Cooper re: my breakdown.. The breakdown I had was one of the loss of a Very Brave Man.. and at exactly 5.36pm (Florida time) yesterday the biggest clap of thunder almost threw me out of my skin.. I've lived in Florida 20 years and have been through many a lightening storm.. This Thunder was a "statement" being made in my very moment.. and get this, there was not one clap of noise after that.. nor before.. If the Gods can speak.. I'd say.. they do speak to us.. Will I ever forget that moment.. No.. Nor will I ever forget Bill Cooper...

    Ok so I post a clip from V

    Aquaries1111 wrote:
    Aquaries1111 wrote:Oh did you notice the big X in the background right at the end of the video I linked.. 10.. Symbolic. (Right after the welcome back)

    And the purple healing light of "The Purple Dawn"...
    Thank-you Aquaries1111. Your experience seemed both sad and interesting. Strange things do indeed occur. The 'V' symbolism was interesting -- yet I'm not sure what it meant. My version of Anna and 'V' is quite different than the TV series. When I keep referring to 'my' thread -- I am simply seeking critiques and/or validation. It's nothing special -- and I'm even less special -- yet I am conducting sort of an experiment -- and I'm trying to develop myself in a rather strange manner. This whole thing is quite weird. The first episode of the new 'V' was perhaps the most revealing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsZelpXj-CE&feature=related Somewhat unrelatedly, consider Numbers 31 (KJV). What is the true nature of the Old Testament God?? What was the true nature of Moses and Aaron?? Has God changed?? What about reincarnations of Moses and Aaron?? Does all of this somehow relate to Anna and 'V'??

    1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying , 2Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites: afterward shalt thou be gathered unto thy people.3 And Moses spake unto the people, saying , Arm some of yourselves unto the war, and let them go against the Midianites, and avenge the LORD of Midian.4 Of every tribe a thousand , throughout all the tribes of Israel, shall ye send to the war.5 So there were delivered out of the thousands of Israel, a thousand of every tribe, twelve thousand armed for war.6 And Moses sent them to the war, a thousand of every tribe, them and Phinehas the son of Eleazar the priest, to the war, with the holy instruments, and the trumpets to blow in his hand.7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males.8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword.9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives , and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods.10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire.11 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts.12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.13 And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp.14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle.15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? 16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. 19 And do ye abidewithout the camp seven days: whosoever hath killed any person, and whosoever hath touched any slain, purify both yourselves and your captives on the third day, and on the seventh day.20 And purify all your raiment, and all that is made of skins, and all work of goats' hair, and all things made of wood.21 And Eleazar the priest said unto the men of war which went to the battle, This is the ordinance of the law which the LORD commanded Moses;22 Only the gold, and the silver, the brass, the iron, the tin, and the lead,23 Every thing that may abide the fire, ye shall make it go through the fire, and it shall be clean: nevertheless it shall be purified with the water of separation: and all that abideth not the fire ye shall make go through the water.24 And ye shall wash your clothes on the seventh day, and ye shall be clean, and afterward ye shall come into the camp.

    25 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 26Take the sum of the prey that was taken, both of man and of beast, thou, and Eleazar the priest, and the chief fathers of the congregation:27 And divide the prey into two parts; between them that took the war upon them, who went out to battle, and between all the congregation:28 And levy a tribute unto the LORD of the men of war which went out to battle: one soul of five hundred, both of the persons, and of the beeves, and of the asses, and of the sheep:29Take it of their half, and give it unto Eleazar the priest, for an heave offering of the LORD.30 And of the children of Israel's half, thou shalt take one portion of fifty, of the persons, of the beeves, of the asses, and of the flocks, of all manner of beasts, and give them unto the Levites, which keep the charge of the tabernacle of the LORD.31 And Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the LORD commanded Moses.32 And the booty, being the rest of the prey which the men of war had caught, was six hundred thousand and seventy thousand and five thousand sheep,33 And threescore and twelve thousand beeves,34 And threescore and one thousand asses,35 And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not knownman by lying with him. 36 And the half, which was the portion of them that went out to war, was in number three hundred thousand and seven and thirty thousand and five hundred sheep:37 And the LORD'S tribute of the sheep was six hundred and threescore and fifteen. 38 And the beeves were thirty and six thousand; of which the LORD'S tribute was threescore and twelve. 39 And the asses were thirty thousand and five hundred; of which the LORD'S tribute was threescore and one.40 And the persons were sixteen thousand; of which the LORD'S tribute was thirty and two persons.41 And Moses gave the tribute, which was the LORD'S heave offering, unto Eleazar the priest, as the LORD commanded Moses.42 And of the children of Israel's half, which Moses divided from the men that warred, 43 (Now the half that pertained unto the congregation was three hundred thousand and thirty thousand and seven thousand and five hundred sheep, 44 And thirty and six thousand beeves,45 And thirty thousand asses and five hundred,46 And sixteen thousand persons;) 47 Even of the children of Israel's half, Moses tookone portion of fifty, both of man and of beast, and gave them unto the Levites, which kept the charge of the tabernacle of the LORD; as the LORD commanded Moses.48 And the officers which were over thousands of the host, the captains of thousands, and captains of hundreds, came near unto Moses:49 And they said unto Moses, Thy servants have taken the sum of the men of war which are under our charge, and there lacketh not one man of us. 50 We have therefore brought an oblation for the LORD, what every man hath gotten, of jewels of gold, chains, and bracelets, rings, earrings, and tablets, to make an atonement for our souls before the LORD.51 And Moses and Eleazar the priest took the gold of them, even all wrought jewels.52 And all the gold of the offering that they offered up to the LORD, of the captains of thousands, and of the captains of hundreds, was sixteen thousand seven hundred and fifty shekels.53 (For the men of war had taken spoil , every man for himself.) 54 And Moses and Eleazar the priest took the gold of the captains of thousands and of hundreds, and brought it into the tabernacle of the congregation, for a memorial for the children of Israel before the LORD.


    Which group of people most closely adheres to every word of the Old-Testament? Does anyone conduct a sacrificial sanctuary-service in a replica of Solomon's Temple? Does anyone obey each and every command uttered by God in the Old-Testament? Does anyone defend all of the atrocities described in the Old-Testament? Christians have many schemes for getting out of all of this -- but how many Christians strictly obey the Teachings of Jesus? The Atheists and Agnostics mostly say 'to heck with all of this madness!' How shall we then live? What shall we believe about life, the universe, and everything? Is there a light at the end of the tunnel in a search for a useable future? If so, might that light be an oncoming magneto-leviton train??? What does it really mean to 'Obey God'?? What is Orthodoxy in Modernity?? These are EXTREMELY important questions. How readest thou??? The Seventh-day Adventists have attempted to be 'Spiritual Israel' and the 'Heirs of the Reformation' -- but are they correct -- and have they succeeded??? I continue to lean toward 'The Desire of Ages' by Ellen White -- but I am very wary and conflicted by the rest of that which is connected with the SDA church. I like the 1928 'Book of Common Prayer' -- but I certainly do not embrace the Episcopal Church or the Anglican Communion -- any more than I embrace the SDA church. I completely enjoyed singing in the Evening and Morning Choirs at the Crystal Cathedral -- yet I concluded that this ministry was both a New Solution and a New Problem. It seemed to work on TV -- but did it work in Garden Grove or in copycat ministries?? Does ANYTHING really work -- once the novelty wears off?? I truly think that even being at the center of Solar System Governance would get old in a hurry. But despite everything -- 'The Show Must Go On' -- even though I often wonder 'why?'...
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:15 pm

    Please remember that ALL of my internet-posting is for educational and entertainment purposes ONLY. I have no idea what I might've placed on any tables in previous lives and/or existences. I can't get straight-answers to anything of any substance -- and I suspect a lot of sinister lawyer-like behavior in the shadows. Neither the Slave-Masters or the Slaves wish to be corrected or confounded -- so this madness might go on forever -- or at least until 2133 A.D. Perhaps we can have a heart to heart conversation at that time -- after everything has been disclosed and debated in a Final Judgment.
    Aquaries1111 wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:10 = Law & Responsibility (in biblical numerology)
    The number 10 also represents: Solar System Consciousness Level

    The above is interesting in light of my strange ideas concerning a Namaste-Constitutional-Responsible-Freedom United States of the Solar System -- and that Responsibility and Law should be at the center of everything.

    Aquaries1111 wrote:And so why did you go from A1 to Aquaries1111? God does see everything indeed!
    Aquaries1111 wrote:Consider numbers 31... (4).. 4 is "Death" Oxy
    Aquaries1111 wrote:"InDeeD" Oxy and where shall Eye "Land"? In your mind of course!
    Aquaries1111 wrote:Yes Oxy and your seeking will not find you.. will it?  will you find the seeking?  Both are needed.. but I am not here to perpetuate a storyline.. in Startrek, nor V nor any other sci fi series I have seen.. I am just "me"?  Do you want to know "me"? Maybe someday I shall visit you Oxy, touch you and smell you.... will that "suffice" in the story tellings of our life".. I almost lost my own you know.. but it does not matter.. does it? For I am here now.. and someday we shall "meet"..
    Aquaries1111 wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:I'm flattered, A1!! Meeting you would be very special. I feel as if I already know you. You still remind me of Erica Evans. If we ever meet -- I hope that you are not disappointed. I'm quite the reflective and contrarian 'dud'. I don't socialize much -- but I am quite polite -- probably too polite. 'Aquaries1111' is a more formal and respectful version of 'A1'.
    You know Orthodoxymoron... All the butterflies want to do is to fly.. nothing more.. nothing less... so... I say... Let we fly!
    orthodoxymoron wrote:You know, I am on the verge of emerging from the muck -- or from the cocoon -- if you will -- and simply flying like a butterfly. I need a new house, new teeth, a new car, and a new computer -- if I really wish to fly. I'm presently stuck in quite the muddy-rut -- with a very-bad case of 'the paralysis of analysis'. I have to lead somewhat of a double-life -- so that I don't talk about what I post while I attempt to function in 'the real world'. I almost seemed to hit it off better with the 'Dogma' crowd -- as strange as that sounds. I keep thinking I need to write some sort of a book -- yet I don't know how to proceed. My requests for help in this regard, have gone unanswered -- so perhaps I need to just 'do-it' myself. I don't really want to -- yet I need the resources such a project might supply. I have promised the 'watchers' that I would supply 'no surpises' -- and I intend to keep this unofficial promise. I wish to solve existing problems -- rather than creating new problems. BTW -- 'eye-land' has several possible meanings. It could imply 'dream-land'. It might imply an actual 'island'. Or -- it might point to 'dream-land on an island'. Sweet-Dreams.

    Meanwhile back at 'Save the World Central' -- I keep thinking about the introduction to the David Icke -- Arizona Wilder interview. It's really quite good -- but I have mixed-feelings about the actual interview.

    Aquaries1111 wrote:Hey Oxy, I have shown you my heart.. when the thunder struck... and yet you still pursue..? what? It is check mate.! or stale mate!  I do not care the "outcome"... I have always said "we are equal".. so who wins? Who loses?  No-one in my realm. You know what Oxy? I am tired of GAMES! YOURS! You give clues, and mysteries and intend for us to ask questions and who the XXXX CARES!? Seriously.. what is there to lose? One's credibility? Who cares.. I am a "Daffodil" and "I Die"! SO! So what! SO Xxxxxxxx WHAT!
    Aquaries1111 wrote:You know what Oxy.. I am tired of your conundrums.. just say it! you only have 5 more months to spill your beans.. so spill em. Say what you mean Oxy.. and stop spill it.. Simple.. this year 2012 is the NON-SECRET OF SECRETS.. Simple.. and it's truth.. Can I prove it.. NO.. But it's my truth and you are IN MY REALITY..
    Are you speaking of December 21, 2012??? I have no idea whether I am reincarnationally good or bad -- or whether I'll be staying or leaving. When I say that I 'don't know' -- I mean it. This is not simply a 'becoming-humility'. Everyone ends up disliking me -- sooner or later. I keep thinking that we could kick-out all of the 'bad-guys' -- and then find (much to our horror) that the 'good-guys' might end-up making things worse. I guess this is why I keep attempting to think in terms of refining and reforming that which presently exists -- rather than throwing everything out -- and starting from scratch. I truly am seeking to learn -- much more than I am seeking to condemn. All of us might be worse than we think -- if we were in the Shoes of the PTB. Solar System Governance might be a helluva lot messier and more complex than we think. Just thinking about it within the context of this thread -- scares the hell out of me. I hint at a lot of things -- to make everyone think. I ask a lot of questions -- to make everyone think. I'm wasting my life away with this damn thread -- to make myself -- and everyone -- THINK. But this all seems to have been a monumental waste of time. Remember when George Green spoke about various politicians snorting cocaine -- and making lewd and inappropriate comments??? Perhaps that's what one ends-up being like when they find-out what's REALLY going-on -- and becomes One of the Boys. I keep thinking that when one finally climbs to the top -- at long-last -- they might NOT like the view...
    Aquaries1111 wrote:OK Oxy, this is the year of "No More Secrets".. The Elite's that think they have secrets over others now are going to be exposed.. and what then? They be "Naked"?  Of course.. they be naked.. I am tired of those who think they are better than the rest of us because they think they hold secrets... well we are leap's and bounds ahead of the secrets... This year.. there are no secrets and all SECRETS will be exposed... this is TRUTH!
    A1, I don't have a lot more to say -- other than what I've been posting. Who was that 'Very Brave Man'? How did you nearly lose your life (sorry if you've already posted this))? What is going to happen in five months?? Will I be exterminated (physically and/or spiritually)?? Will there be a solar system exorcism which will drive me out of the solar system?? Will all or some of the above happen to ancient and/or current enemies of mine (and enemies of humanity)?? Or is humanity doomed?? I have no idea -- but is this the truth?

    Human Beings appear to be a slave race languishing on an isolated planet in a small galaxy. As such, the human race was once a source of labor for an extraterrestrial civilization and still remains a possession today. To keep control over its possession and to maintain Earth as something of a prison, that other civilization has bred never-ending conflict between human beings, has promoted human spiritual decay, and has erected on Earth conditions of unremitting physical hardship. This situation has existed for thousands of years, and it continues today. -- 'The Gods of Eden' by William Bramley (pg. 34)

    Regardless of whether this is true, or not -- what conditions pre-existed the 'creation' of the Human-Being?? What conditions have existed beyond Earth -- for billions of years -- right up to this very day?? Was the slave-thing a 'cover' to keep the Human-Race from being exterminated?? Be careful NOT to crucify those who might have kept Humanity alive -- under the most hostile and extenuating circumstances. Do your research very, very carefully. Don't do anything which you might later regret. But most of you don't really give a damn about anyone other than yourselves -- do you??? (I am not speaking particularly to Forum Members. I am speaking to those who I think might be monitoring this site. I have become a bit cynical regarding finding anyone in this galaxy who can deeply and rationally discuss my particular interests and concerns -- in an unbiased and fair manner. Everyone seems to be compromised, programmed, infiltrated, subverted, corrupted, etc, etc. Some of the 'good-guys' might turn out to be 'bad-guys' -- and some of the 'bad-guys' might turn out to be 'good-guys'. I think of nearly everyone as being a mixture of good and evil -- even various and sundry deities. I suspect that the real owner(s) of Earth and the Solar System might not be in possession of what is rightfully theirs. I suspect an ancient theft and hijacking of this entire Solar System -- but I can't prove it. I suspect a One Solar System government -- going back thousands (or millions) of years -- but I can't prove it.

    I found an interesting picture from the 1955 International Astronautical Congress -- showing Leonid Sedov, Herman Oberth, and an unknown (to me) person of interest. I couldn't find this image on the internet (which might be just as well) -- but those of you in the know might find it interesting. Look at the upper-left corner of this image. ('Astronomica' pg. 236) Nuff said.

    Sometimes I think that reincarnationally I might've been somehow involved with the Nazis and/or the Roman Catholic Church -- and I'm not sure why I think this might be the case. Is there a 'good-side' to both of these groups?? I keep thinking of the whole thing as being a corrupted and hijacked version of a quite idealistic plan. I can't prove this -- but I keep thinking about it. I REALLY wonder where all of the fancy Nazi technology came from??!! I REALLY wonder where all of the grand Catholic architecture and music came from??!! The whole Egyptian-Roman Empire phenomenon fascinates me. I detect a HUGE amount of hidden splendor and intrigue. Earth seems to be a HUGE battleground -- with a helluva lot of hidden agendas. I think a lot of people know about the specifics -- but they don't talk about it. I have to try to read between the lines. I'm currently looking at an old space-program documentary (Wolper Productions -- 1964) and it's more revealing than you might think! I'm also reading a huge astronomy book. Unfortunately, trying to deal with all of this is ruining what's left of my miserable life -- and I'm not joking.

    I wish to reiterate that my MO will be watching, listening, and posting -- REGARDLESS of what the future brings. One small strategically-located apartment-office with a Cray is my present goal. You know what my fantasy consists of -- and you know that I think that my fantasy might turn out to be a nightmare -- and I am preparing myself for that probability. I am leaning toward the theory that this is NOT a nice universe -- that Mankind is in a HUGE amount of trouble -- and that a regime-change will NOT result in Humanity living happily everafter -- with the rest of the universe loving and adoring us. The worst trouble and conflicts might be just around the corner. I don't know who to be more afraid of -- Humanity or Divinity??!! I am EXTREMELY apprehensive and uneasy. The Horror.

    I am seeking a highly-refined, highly-ethical, and deeply-spiritual Secular-Society -- rather than a Nasty and Overbearing Technocratic-Theocracy. There might be a highly-structured governmental and religious core -- relative to solar system governance -- but this would NOT imply a lack of politcal and religious freedom throughout the solar system -- JUST THE OPPOSITE. This might seem contradictory -- but sometimes a solution involves the combining of opposites. I got that one from Shirley Maclaine. What if the cathedrals and large classical-architecture churches of the world were maintained by the Solar System Government -- rather than begging people for money -- and threatening them with going to hell if they don't pay-up??!! This is just a brain-fart -- so don't run in the streets just yet!!

    Please research and investigate the alleged-phenomenon of Human Sacrifice -- Past, Present, and Future -- especially in connection with Religious and Political Leaders. This subject frightens me more than just about anything else. I keep hearing about little babies being sacrificed to who knows who or what?! Might this have something to do with a hypothetical Human v Reptilian War in Heaven?? This could be the biggest can of worms we face.

    I think I'm going to get lost in my new astronomy book (while listening to classical-music) to see if I can preserve my sanity just a little bit longer. There is an interesting mixture of politics, religion, space-travel, multidisciplinary-science, etc. -- connected with the study of astronomy. Perhaps this is the right mix. I used to love attending Los Angeles Astronomical Society meetings at the Griffith Observatory and Planetarium!! I used to love listening to Dr. Edwin Krupp, and to various guest-speakers. Those were the 'Good Old Days'!!  

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    Aquaries1111 wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:A1, you look a lot less like 'Erica Evans' in your new avatar! Do you consider Dragons to be real, imaginary (or both)? If real, do you consider Dragons to be physical, spiritual (or both)? Do you consider Dragons to be good, evil (or both)? I have sometimes wondered if Greys are Teenage Reptilians -- and if Dracs are Young-Adult to Middle-Aged Reptilians -- and if Dragons are Elder-Statesman Reptilians???!!! The Bible states that 'Michael was wroth with the Dragon'. Was Michael a Progressive-Drac who challenged the Traditional-Dragon Galactic Powers That Be???!!! Did this result in the War in Heaven???!!! What if we are Interdimensional-Reptilians on the Soul-Level???!!! What if we are Mammalian-Reptilians???!!! Could our souls animate Grey-Bodies???!!! Drac-Bodies???!!! Dragon-Bodies???!!! What were we before we were Human???!!! What will we be if and when we are no longer Human???!!! Would the answer frighten us???!!! I've asked these questions before -- but in somewhat different ways. What a Can of Worms!!! Or, is it a Can of Snakes???!!!  
    Wow Oxy, You really know how to get my mind a whirrrrling.. I don't think anyone has or can have definitive answers in anything... except one thing is for sure.. we are all photons.. aren't we?

    It's nice to play with concepts and ideas.. Who can really prove anything at the end of the day?  I do indeed imagine Dragons to be physical.. they existed and still do.. just not on the electromagnetic spectrum we are viewing.. I don't know about greys.. if they even exist.. I'm sure they must exist somewhere since they are a focus of my attention on some level.. Our souls can animate anything if we can be "enticed" enough.. What do you think Earth is?  It's the ultimate video game.. If you had an option to be a grey would you?  I wouldn't.. Trying to get a soul to embody anything is a challenge.. why there are 7 plus billion here.. it's fun.. fun... fun.... What were we before we were Human? Photons.. before and after.. You can't kill light.. so there is no death.. and what do we do?  We are all dancing of course... Anything Oxy you imagine and have questions about does indeed exist.. else you wouldn't think about it would you?  I want to think about what it is I do not currently think about.. Is it possible that the snow can fall up instead of down?  Why would I even think such a thought?  Why not?  As long as I'm not harming anyone.. I have the freedom to think and imagine what I choose.. There's always more than one answer to any question Oxy and all are right... why not?  Does Never Never Land exist?  I imagine so..  Oxy what can frighten you?  I have seen Reptilians walk through my bedroom wall.. can they see me?  Or is it just my imagination?  Hey.. if not here then there.. I'm enjoying the "ride".. without grey hairs..
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    I certainly hope that laissez-faire capitalism morphs into responsible-enterprise -- wherein one cannot do business in such a manner that harm is caused. I realize this is a grey area. I am not opposed to ambition and invention -- but I am opposed to the destruction of the human race in various and sundry ways. In many ways, this is a war. The Responsible Pursuit of Fame, Fortune, Power, and Pleasure must defeat the Irresponsible Pursuit of Fame, Fortune, Power, and Pleasure. Responsibility must be Rewarded. Irresponsibility must be Punished. I hate to say it, but it seems as if one must think a bit like the Fat-Cats, without becoming corrupted and hardened. This is swimming upstream -- but converting Planet Purgatory into Planet Paradise is NOT going to be an easy task.

    I feel somewhat guilty and arrogant when I do it, but I have had to think in terms of being somewhat close to the center of an idealistic and imaginary Solar System Government -- to attempt to comprehend what might really be going on in this solar system (and beyond). This frightens me very deeply -- each and every day. I keep coming back to the documentary "The Ring of Power". Thinking as I do seems to be making my life much worse -- as I attempt to face-reality by living in a dream-world. I don't necessarily recommend the mind-games I play -- but someone has to do it -- and I have repeatedly asked others to assist me in my quest -- yet very few have seemed inclined to do so.


    I'm not a socialist or a communist -- but sometimes I wonder how things would be if everyone -- throughout the whole world -- always had the same net-worth? People might compete for plumb-jobs -- yet no one would 'have' any more than anyone else (other than the 'enjoyment' of doing more interesting and challenging jobs). How rich should God be? Why do the 'bad' people seem to be rich -- and the 'good' people seem to be poor? Should nice-guys finish last? I like to think that if I had massive-wealth, that I would still live simply, and use my wealth to benefit humanity. But really, if all of the wealth were immediately given away -- then there would be no further power to do good. So, might it be wise to set up some sort of a charitable-foundation?? Do you see my point?

    Deception seems to be rampant in this solar system. For example: "All government agencies lie part of the time, but NASA is the only one I've ever encountered that does so routinely." -- George A. Keyworth, Science Advisor to President Reagan and Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, in testimony before Congress, March 14, 1985.

    A heaven for mosquitoes -- and a hell for humans -- might be conveniently combined. What would C.S. Lewis say?
    Eartheart wrote:United States AI Solar System (1) - Page 32 Oxymon10

    forgive me messing with your questions and the spelling, which i dontcare 4 so much!

    What might 'Solar System Canon Law' look like??? You know -- a collection of laws, procedures, ceremonies, etc. -- which would apply throughout the solar system -- and which might harmonize with the laws, procedures, ceremonies, etc. found throughout the galaxy???

    Its just a new fractal core broadcasted from the old mindcontroll ELFstations and digi-TV globular aural warp, that we introduced 2014, which eliminated second thought and the typical egomasonic reflectiv BS. The resulting harmonic aural freq-boost reestablished 111% Healthstandart to all living entety on/in the planet, no guidlines where further needed to avoid recessive emergence. Your team of an intrasolar plasmacouncil had the synchron enlightment/enspacement fraktals delivered for free by hunab Quo statuary law/loove....

    What if a lot of space-travel occurs via some sort of an 'Avatar' program -- or a soul-transference program?? You know using some sort of a super tough body or Cylon-type 'container' to withstand the harsh conditions found in space???

    Space is home and its qualityis anything than harsh. With our new plasmabodies and divinely charged aural envelopes we can trverse any distans or any dimensional fragmented spacetimesequence by applieing the coordinated of free service, which will propell you to your most intriguent purpose...

    'War: The Ultimate Sport'. If we eliminate war -- what will young men do to prove themselves??

    As artist by creating new hormones after puberty sets in, hormones which can unloch the probability potential of divineLoove in the related soulgroup, enough do do & proof... besides having the first 222 years before collegedegree to travel and play on different planets!!!

    Do you converse with the Thuban crowd?? There is an aspect of that Thuban stuff which is sort of cool -- but I have huge problems with it in its present form.

    Actually there is no dialog, just the transmissions of  draco "origin", which showed  a unique refference for our Homeplanet, called even specificaly showing us the higher mindset of the dragon keepers and revealing (probes of Tony's Translationskills) the whole 11Dim Set of  how the Holon is projected into timespaces and how we can stop actions of despair... I real i believe that Loover Jesus recalled both of us synchron to the old PA to manifest some corecrew mindframes, introduce some clear thoughts onto the surface which will help Dreamer to invent the unknown. Its not so that there are clear minds inthe background like you keep suggesting that those hidden hands/minds know or can do the real, which is pure speculatius on thepope's poo...

    Everyone seems to want Term-Limits for Politicians -- but what about Term-Limits for Brain-Surgeons??

    Whattf? We not gonna have anymore politicans, and this kind of surgeon wont have anything to do in the next decades. useless eaters eehhh cheaters! Wake-up you ignorant, delusional disgrace.“There are NO Governments only CORPORATIONS”, masquerading as Organic Governments owned by the Vatican World Banks. The People voluntarily participate through consent, 'registration' & words-of-art to the Anticrisis setup.

    I mean no disrespect here. I simply wish for this world and solar system to be run by the truly Best and Brightest -- who make the best decisions for humanity. Do you see my point??

    Itsnot your point Oxymonad, but you x-pressing the organic reverb of Gaya's accustix - so to hint at...

    Where has the Lord placed each and every one of us??

    The mirroring of  all your  inner  frequency's has put a lot of compassion onto our lord, and if you suggest an personal agenda he is pursuing with U/evryone - than Eartheart must reveal the light and truth of it...


    If we try to better ourselves -- are we rebelling against God??

    Take us from polarity (sin) and cease rebellion (sin!) and lead us to immmortality. Free the channels of our Divine Source to make the living  recieve the Host personalities ect...

    What is the Will of God?? What is the Law of God??

    Each species has just a parcel of the true way, so he wills us to host the circle of the rainbow to invite all relevant species into coming into a certain communion, for realigning the original creation with his/her forgiveness and forge/fuse all fragmented mind back into this LoveLaw!?!

    What was the Pre-Human Law of God??

    Getting to know the Great Mother and her spellpower?!?

    What was the Law of God to Adam and Eve??

    Hide from An or run and join one of the other extraterrestial settlements, there where 13 bases besides the usurped middleeastern laboratories. Oxy remeber the Montauk E.? Well we could say the military where tricked into this by a bunch of orion warmongers around An, which where runaways from the contigents of the orion mamas, which had just joined the Peace Anchara, a thingy those Orion borgs couldnt cope with. So they coerced the human military dickheads  into opening the timerift, flew into that back 5000 years or so and started to take over the cosmic guardianplaces. They killed the backup of the princess from Rigel and forced Enki to work for them, make a double clone(Enlil), which became the featured Son of theJehowan deity and them ruling like unchecked solarlords. So they demanded the slaves for the goldproduction and a serial of Evas for their offworld warriors ect.
    Enki had to comply, but put the highest "royal" draco-dna into the later models, which surpriced all of their recordkeepers with some amasing features (angelic shiny dreamers - which can take down the monopol of the interstellar trademafia and put the creation back on track of the creators!!!) So all the sumerian records are faked evidence, manufactured to be a heroic last stand of those reptile warmongers around An and a insurance for them to be "our Makers" which they are not!!!

    What was the Pre-Human Liturgy??

    Aumng!

    I keep looking for a Timeless Law and Liturgy. I really wish to be Traditional -- yet History and Tradition seem to present me with a MESS!!! Why is this?? Do the Implications and Ramifications of the Tower of Babel Incident have something to do with this confusion?? I'm faced with a situation where nothing is ever really right -- and where nothing ever really resolves. Is this a nasty series of accidents -- or is it by DESIGN??

    Multimirrorinfo, holograficshards, fragmented starsystems and deliberatetesting of when the intelligences are back on track...

    Does the Lord lay strong Human Leadership low by raising them up -- and then destroying them -- in a cyclical fashion?? I mean no disrespect. I really don't. I'm simply trying to understand why Earth is not Heaven -- and why Mankind seems to be viewed as being Damaged-Goods and as being Sinful-Human-Flesh. I keep sensing an Ancient and Ugly Multiracial Conflict or Galactic Civil War Among Soul-Relatives.

    See answers above... Your sense is pointing you to the noverbal knowhow

    My insides never stop churning. I never have peace. Is trying to make things better considered a treasonous act?? Has a Verdict Been Rendered Against Humanity Which Shall Never Be Rescinded?? Should I just shut-up and suffer???

    the gods andthe demons churn theoceanofmaya to extractnectarof immortality, so there will be no t-act on any side but anendtosufferingand a loud howl onyourside...

    Is the Law of God the Word of God -- or 'Every Word That Procedeth Out of the Mouth of God'?? If so, then is the Word of God limited to the 66 Books of the Biblical Canon?? Is the Character of the Old Testament God similar to the Character of the God of the Roman Catholic Church?? Both seem to be rather harsh. Jesus seems quite different. Jesus seems to be quite different than that which is presented in the Pauline Epistles and the Book of Revelation. What's really going on here??

    Its like you loove a wooman without wispering the loveyou words; reminder of the concious sound primordial role in shiftingor keeping manifestations. Andi tell you again, itsthe living spirit and the living master which you shall read! Recicle those books, enough trees died for that printing of the evil memory agenda!!!! There is a revolution in the holyghost and a revelation in spirit from the old test, bringing in the livingword of Jesus (i looved your aligning us with the red letters)  and now beeing with the daughters of the Light allready. See the true divine creation and than remembrate those moments which feel sacral and those which feel holy, you know those feelings - you do hey!?!

    I guess I'm sort of a Non-Practicing Renegade Ecumenical Seventh-Day Anglican. Do you see my point??? I didn't think so.

    What? I nearly recommended you forthe secondcomming team!

    Shouldn't all Protestants be careful students and observers of the Roman Catholic Church??? Shouldn't Protestants think about what changes might make the Roman Catholic Church acceptable to them??? At what point does one call off the dogs???

    There where a heavenly feature of refusing those split Churches in history, whichwas brutally averted by those jesuits you feature on some thoughts of desperate need. Be unaffested and noninfected he old barde!

    Regardless of whether this is true, or not -- what conditions pre-existed the 'creation' of the Human-Being?? What conditions have existed beyond Earth -- for billions of years -- right up to this very day?? Was the slave-thing a 'cover' to keep the Human-Race from being exterminated?? Be careful NOT to crucify those who might have kept Humanity alive -- under the most hostile and extenuating circumstances.

    Why is source sometimes hardly communicating with angels, aliens or his belooved children? Welltheere is a right time for every act, entrance to our play or offstage prep... Its source perspective, which rules those conditions, unpercivable different Loovesettings and circumstances for the same concious ultradim test-amend.

    I REALLY wonder where all of the fancy Nazi technology came from??Aldebaran!! I REALLY wonder where all of the grand Catholic architecture and music came from??

    Axsum today ethiopia!!

    The whole Egyptian-Roman Empire phenomenon fascinates me.

    The royal Loovers and those people which could charge their blood with or via emotional conciousness where in a long struggle overtaken/underwandered/intermarried by those killersouls left over from the orionwars with incredible traumatic wounds, hosted by Gaya to heal but where 4Dim directed to ursurb the Loovers and further the An-Jehowan agenda... Pure confused jews got swallowed up in the process from leviatan... All else is story and spread rumors typeofdisinfo.... AndJesus i not the boydick cutting bloodsucking rabbi - beware!  Did you knowabout the crashlanded familyship, landed 3000plus years ago in the etruscian alpine mountains, stayed on and teached the roots of Rom, tilltheir later generations gotkilled by those from middleeast and usurped to have Rome as a weaponizedplatform? The female daughters ofthose offworlders made the tribes-temples which became thelegendary amazones... All the wonderfull things in creation came from Loove and Earthearts Mysteries, there is no Anti-(particle/idendety/principle) to the original, but a lot of extrawishes and karmic response to those moodswings...

    I don't really know how to properly proceed with my Political and Theological Science-Fiction. I'm finding that I am posting less and less of what I REALLY think about everything -- because my true thoughts are too radical and difficult to express.

    hey Oxymonad - i am so happy now to know, that this retoric x-file rituals you played with us isnt  to be misstaken with your real persons omnidirectional guidance...
    the bible is the creation story of the Sumerian but with a lot of hidden stuff, half of the real sayings of Jesus was just found in 2008 like the gospel of Mary Madeline or the gospel of Thomas ........ but i do want to hear what you believe im not trying to talk gospel to you just find out what you feel deeper meanings trade knowledge with a common brother ... earthur of gaya2
    cheersconfused  alienCrybaby Luke UFO2  Adv2  UhOh
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    I'm really ready to quit permanently. I've really just been talking to myself and wasting my time for much too long. People won't seriously deal with this subject until the New World Order really kicks in with a vengeance - but then they will probably just play the blame game without fixing anything. Talking to people in a calm and rational manner, with the best of intentions, is a lost cause. Edwin Bernays and Sigmund Freud were right. (Even though I dislike both of them) Seeking Fame, Fortune, Power, and Pleasure really makes the world go 'round - which is why 'It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World'. If we save the world - the next generation probably won't appreciate it - and they'll just get into more messes. The corrupt will continue to rule the stupid. The human race will continue to live by the Golden Rule (He or She Who Has the Gold - RULES!). Perhaps I should focus upon the RESPONSIBLE PURSUIT OF FAME, FORTUNE, POWER, AND PLEASURE - WHERE RESPONSIBILITY IS REWARDED AND IRRESPONSIBILITY IS PUNISHED. I am more disgusted with the human race than I can even begin to describe. I'm not sure whether I am more disgusted by the corrupt - or by the stupid. I'm almost ready to go back to sleep, go back to church, watch the mainstream media, believe every word, get chipped, get vaccinated, and drink my Kool-Aid like a good zombie.

    I'm so happy you are up to 33 here now.. I've had a long day.. Just walked in the door.. but sometimes you know Oxy, spontaneity kicks in and well here I am.. Copy pasting your words from page 3.. I can barely keep my eyes open tonight.. I just took a long walk around the lake and am getting ready to lean on the jacuzzi jets.. ahhhhhhhh... I'll be back though.. once I digest what Eartheart wrote.. Seems not to be "sinking in so easy".. I need to switch frequencies.. Gaya2 style...

    Thank-you Eartheart and A1. I'd like to know who you two really are. In fact, I'd like to know who everyone on the Mists really is. Perhaps you are all one!! I don't always understand your manner of speaking -- but I read every word -- and try to understand what you are saying and meaning. Namaste.

    I've recently been thinking it might be cool to hang-out with the Jesuits on Mt. Graham!! Unfortunately, I doubt that I could do that -- and even if I could -- I doubt that the Jesuits would inform me of everything they know. They seem to be rather skilled at keeping secrets. But seriously, I think the Jesuits know a  helluva lot about a helluva lot. However, I think they've been working for the wrong boss, for a very long time. Hopefully, that will change for the better in the near future. Who knows?? In the meantime, I'll keep listening to Alex Collier and Alex Jones -- despite their faults. On the other hand, I keep thinking I need to get completely away from the crazy and upsetting stuff -- and just study Astronomy, Egyptology, Jesus-Studies, and Sacred Classical Music. Perhaps I've paid my dues in CrazyLand -- and it's time to move on...

    Perhaps I need to find the RIGHT publisher -- and then work with them to get my best stuff out. Just a thought -- but I have no experience in this regard. I would beware of efforts to subvert or remove some of my sensitive work -- but I'm somewhat paranoid these days. I've been asking for assistance regarding the publishing of some of my simplistic thoughts developed within the Mists -- but so far there has been ZERO response. I really don't want to do anything more than what I'm presently doing -- but I frankly need some more money (don't we all) -- and I'd like to leave some sort of a significant mark on this miserable-planet before I leave this miserable-container.

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    Silver seems to be quite cheap presently -- but again, if everything goes to hell -- silver could head south as well. The markets can be unreasonable and unmerciful -- so beware. The markets are a big casino which generate nothing useful -- other than moving money around. I lean toward the Robin Hood model of trading -- wherein one makes money in the world's biggest casino -- and then becomes a philanthropist. I presently have a higher standard regarding the spending of money -- compared with making money. Most all methods of making money seem to be morally objectionable -- to greater or lesser degrees. Consider following AGQ (2X Long), ZSL (2X Short), QID (2X Short), QLD (2X Long), and UYG (2X Long) -- from a technical analysis perspective -- noticing especially the interrelationships of these index-funds. Then, consider following the Silver-Coin Trade. Remember, if everything goes to hell -- paper money and securities might become worthless overnight. We live in a very dangerous solar system -- in more ways than we can imagine. All of the above is just one more mental game to play -- but it is a game which can burn one very badly -- so beware. You are competing with some very, very bright traders -- who might not be nice at all -- who might have a helluva lot of high-technology -- and who might engage in a helluva lot of insider-trading -- so beware. Imagine a Trading-Room on the Dark Side of the Moon filled with Grey-Traders using Grey Supercomputers!!!!


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    I continue to wonder what a combination of Job through Daniel (KJV) and the Music of J.S. Bach might yield after years of concentrated study and practice?? I haven't even started such a discipline -- and I feel highly ashamed. I continue to think that this thread will ultimately be used by those who are MUCH better than I am. I think I struck-out in this life -- and I don't think there is any coming-back. I really think I blew-it. I really do. Regarding the Old-Testament Violence -- what if this is descriptive and indicative of How Things Work Throughout the Universe in Star-Wars -- going way, way, way, way back?? Where would the United States be without it's Military-Might?? Might Makes Right -- Right?? What if God is Fundamentally a Warrior?? Whatever the case may be -- I will repeat that I wonder what a vigorous and scholarly pursuit of Job through Daniel (KJV) and the Music of J.S. Bach might produce (long-term). This might (or might not) involve church membership and attendance. Would this approach necessarily negate the New Testament?? What sort of Messiah and/or Immanuel emerges from this particular focus?? I realize I am a "Voice Crying in the Wilderness" -- and that very, very few are likely to pay any attention to me -- but being a Monumental-Failure is actually somewhat liberating. I'll just keep doing what I'm doing -- regardless of whether anyone likes it or not -- or whether anyone pays any attention to what I mention, or not. BTW -- What Are the Implications and Ramifications of Living in a Roman Solar System?? Do We Live In a Roman Solar System?? Has This Been a Roman Solar System for Thousands of Years?? Are Rome and Jerusalem Really Two-Sides of the Same-Coin??
    Aquaries1111 wrote:
    Aquaries1111 wrote:ODM, I mean no disrespect; but, do you work? Do you have an "outlet" other than Mists here? Or do you spend your time shedding sherry shriner and your constant same old message here on The Mists? We here, are "evolutionary" and since you have info of positive and negative, I wonder? What is your true intent? I work, and if you want your teeth fixing, so you can find a "life" well hey: you know where to find me! I am not "elusive"! Are you? Do you have an address? a real name? a skype contact? who are you? Maybe you can skype chat with me or even Carol? Let us know your true intentions because quite frankly; I am getting rather "bored" of your "dissertation"!

    ODM=OrthodoxyMoron
    Aquaries1111 wrote:And all of your posts no longer qualify for this thread.. most if not all have been deleted.. So sorry, but it is time for "house cleaning" on many levels!
    Eartheart wrote:Oxymonad, well we should overtake the vatican and use those funds to free the girls, kids and animals from the parasitic setoooppps.

    Second thought, lets organize a Abalonian Retreat in the Mists to actually forge a scripted reality of a cinema tripple "Star peace & the next Love", in case we still own BS in 2013...

    Third, call the value of the moments and abolish the old green, recieve everything on the way by revaluating your real output and beeing in touch with the path...

    forth, shut ooopps and keep taking out dealers and corrupted cops which store the bunnys at home...

    give them fife & Invent new values to keep circulating...
    Thank-you Eartheart. I comprehend approximately 19.7% of your posting -- but that 19.7% is of great value. I continue to wonder what a Vatican-Based Namaste-Constitutional-Responsible-Freedom United States of the Solar System might look like!! What might they say in Orion??!! I realize this is playing with burning-magnesium -- and that I am a completely ignorant fool. Bad Combination!! But Siriusly, can you imagine daily Congressional and Senatorial Sessions in the large glass-roofed building next to St. Peter's??!! Can you imagine the American System with the Panache of the Roman System??!! I have no idea how such a thing might be accomplished -- or even if it would really work. I simply do not have the resources to properly model such a thing -- and I do not have a limitless supply of uncorrupted information relative to solar system governance and galactic governance. This is simply a preliminary test. This is only a test. What REALLY worries me is the thought that the Nasty Hidden Factions will ALWAYS exist -- no matter what solar system exists -- and that they will ALWAYS raise hell and screw things up. Once again, please take this thread as a whole -- or not at all -- and researcher beware. Here's another perspective to muddy the waters:
    Aquaries1111 wrote:SO WHAT SHOULD ALL OF THIS SUNWORSHIP MEAN TO ME A CHRISTIAN TODAY?

    Really, a better question would be to ask: "What did these sungods and dying/rising gods mean to these who heard these stories and these "theologies" thousands of years ago"? Yes, that is the question and the answers fill the questions that we have as Christians and followers of "the Christ" since the "Jesus Story" is so alike all these other solar gods why likewise "died and rose again 3 days later".

    Now we must learn a bunch from another website dealing with these early "Chrestians" or Christians as we call them today. We must deal with the Gnostic understanding of all we learned in Egyptian studies and all we learned in the Astrotheology studies and see how this was modeled in the lives and beliefs of these earliest "Gnostic Chrestians". For that we must go to another site for this information; ironically a site dealing with the true First New Testament which we don't have in our churches today.

    But before we go I need to help you make sense out of why this Astrotheology and personifications of the Sun and its path through the Cosmos was so important to the Spiritual Masters of yesterday. For that we need to understand correctly how these ancient people looked as these similar "sungods" and "sungod stories" which mimic our "Jesus Story" today.

    Answer for yourself: Did the Ancients understand these "sungods" as if "literal-historical"? How should we make comparisons to an "assumed literal-historical Jesus"? What is behind all of these representations of these "sungods"? Were all the Ancients going to hell according to Christian doctrine? Is there a common thread and hidden link we have missed between all of the above "gods"? Were all of these "sungods" nothing more than allegories and symbols for a deeper "spiritual reality" that escapes us today? Could it be that the Ancients understood all of these above "pagan gods and goddesses" as allegories for the Divine Energy and Soul within all mankind and we not know it?

    Let us see if our whole Christian perspective on these "sungods" has been wrong from the traditional Christian perspective. What is the implication for the "Jesus Story" since it parallels completely these other stories of these "sungods"? Do we dare rethink the "literal-historical" interpretation of "the Christ"? Were the Christian Gnostics right about "the Christ" and Rome wrong and have we believed a Roman lie and forged documents about this whole thing and could our Christian understanding of "the true Jewish Messiah" be incorrect? What a study. The truth is out there in these links to help the evidence mount to prove our points but first let us understand the deep spiritual insights behind these Ancient sungods which are forerunners of the later "Jesus Story".

    If you have studied our Egypt-Christian website as well as this Jesus-Astrotheology site then now you know why throughout all our websites that we advise that the Christian seriously look into Judaism for it is the living link today with these Ancient Truths found originally in the first religion of mankind, the Egyptian religion. Through Judaism today and their Torah we have made available to us today, the non-Jew, the most proper way for us to continually develop, mature, and perfect our Soul without being encumbered by the idolatry inherent in the Christology of Roman Christianity due to their falsification of these Ancient Religions texts where they "literalized" the Ancient Divine Allegorical Truths first given to mankind in the beginning of time and in so doing gave the world a false salvation message and destroyed the Spiritual Truth of the "Christ Within". Recover "The Faith Once Given To The Saints" Which Has Been Perverted By Gentile Christianity And Their "Literal" and "Historical" Interpretation of the Sacred Texts.

    If you so desire Bet Emet Ministries offers a comprehensive CD of all of our Websites. with a "study plan" to assure your proper Spiritual progress in such in-depth studies...just click on this link for the details. In our CD of all out websites contained on one disk we provide a "study plan" for the student and give detailed instructions as how to study these websites "in order" to facilitate one's study. Please inquire for the CD for such through study will take you some time if you ever hope of cracking the "Jesus Puzzle" and coming to the answer of the question: "Who do men say I am?".

    Bet Emet Ministries
    Rev. Craig Lyons Ms.D., D.D., M.Div.
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    972-4964238
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    http://astrotheology.weebly.com/
    I continue to lean toward an Archangelicentric Approach to the History of Theology and Mythology. Don't stop thinking about Archangels, Reincarnation, Ancient-Technology, and Genetic-Engineering. Consider the 1788 Federalist Papers, the 1898 Desire of Ages, the 1928 Book of Common Prayer, the 1962 Missal, and all of the Sacred Classical Music -- in the Context of the Great Controversy (the Conflict of the Ages) Between Christ and Satan in Ancient Babylon, Egypt, Greece, and Rome. Think About It!!!

    I have a feeling that the governments and religions of the world (and beyond?) are in the process of being shaken to their core -- but that eventually a glorious solution will emerge. I intend this thread as turbulent-foreplay to a climactic-resolution. One of the problems with my hypothetical United States of the Solar System is that I rely on the United States and the Christian Church -- both of which have a helluva lot of blood on their hands. The contrast between the Federalist Papers and the Killing of the Native Americans is rather stark and brutal. The contrast between the Teachings of Jesus and the Christian Crusades and Inquistion is rather stark and brutal. What's wrong with this picture?? All of this reminds me of 'The Mission'.







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    Aquaries1111 wrote:Now now Oxy, like you I read every word.. and I think you are missing the "t".. I am still looking to tune into Gaya2 but unfortunately I can not "find the station".. yet! Very good.. You are progressing to new levels Oxy.. but your perspective need not be in the muddying of waters but in the clarity of waters. Ask and you shall receive!
     
    Aquaries1111 wrote:
    Aquaries1111 wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:A1, I'd be very surprised if all I was missing was the "t"...

    Well do you not think Oxy it bee polite to call Ear(t)heart Eartheart instead of Earheart? Just saying.. You do not miss much.. and neither do Eye!

    I'm sorry for being so meticulous in names.. it's just that Tony Blue posing as Olivia Brandis would deliberately spell Aquaries as Aquarius to piss me off (in back scene skype chats) and so.. I say.. It's important to at least spell "names correctly".. If always A1, always A1, when changes.. suspicions do indeed arise.. Just saying... All good!
    A1, words in my posts mysteriously undergo spelling changes without me making them -- on a daily basis. Sometimes a word is changed into another word -- I kid you not. Whether this is part of a computer program conneceted with this site -- or a nefarious-entity from the nether-realms -- I know not.
    Aquaries1111 wrote:Listen, it does not matter

    We have bigger mysteries to solve.

    Most of Rev. Craig Lyons links are not to be found.. You know this now?  I hope you can research Oxy, what you were given then.. Not everything will always be available "now"... Time Jumpers are jumping and Time Keepers are Keeping.
    A1, I continue to be interested in the work of Gerald Massey, Ralph Ellis, and our very own Brook -- regarding Christology and Egyptology. However, I seem to have an ongoing mental block connected with this. I can only take-in so much at a time. It's too overwhelming for me -- and I start to get Spiritual-Vertigo...
    Aquaries1111 wrote:and who am I Oxy, well....

    "I am invisible".. an O positive now.. an O negative then.. what does that mean? You figure it out.. WE are in disguise.. ET's as O Positive in the "majority" now who would "fathom that" when they are looking for O Negatives.. Well I tell you this.. Nothing is set in stone.. remember? DNA can change and so can blood types... yep it happened to me.. O Negative turned O Positive but I won't explain it's not important.. Rev. Craig Lyons is important to you... research that path.. and find more clues.. ripleys!
    Aquaries1111 wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:A1, I continue to be interested in the work of Gerald Massey, Ralph Ellis, and our very own Brook -- regarding Christology and Egyptology. However, I seem to have an ongoing mental block connected with this. I can only take-in so much at a time. It's too overwhelming for me -- and I start to get Spiritual-Vertigo...

    Hmm Yes I would like to see Brook back here.. I hope she was NOT banned.. I know LionHawk was but never mind.. Brook please login and see if you can at least participate here...

    A1, this information seems to be very important -- yet I never know what to believe or disbelieve. Here is another link to Craig Lyons material. http://christianityasamysteryreligion.com/personification_sun_worlds_religions.htm I couldn't find a You Tube video or a picture of Rev. Lyons. This seemed a bit strange. Will Astrotheology destroy Christianity -- or will it strengthen Christianity by adding a new dimension to it?? Whatever the case may be, I sense that a lot of people are going to lose their faith -- and perhaps even lose their minds -- in connection with this Spiritual Infowar. Are we dealing with a battle between Isis and Ra -- with Moses and Aaron caught in the middle??? Or, are we dealing with a conspiracy against humanity by Isis, Ra, Moses, and Aaron??? Is the Christ (by whatever name or era) a rebel against the abuse of humanity?? I keep catching fleeting-glimpses of the truth -- but I can never seem to pin anything of substance down with satisfying finality. Here is a reading-list relative to astrotheology. http://astrotheology.weebly.com/recommended-reading.html So many books. So little time. Besides, one can get bogged-down in an isolated area of research -- and begin to lose touch with reality and sanity -- which is why I recommend a multi-disciplinary approach -- with lots of music and humor. I continue to think that working outward from the word 'RESPONSIBILITY' in all disciplines might be an excellent place to begin. Try reading through a dictionary while thinking about the word 'RESPONSIBILITY'. I wish I had the time, energy, and intellect to practice what I preach. I am a blatant hypocrite. I admit it. So sue me or burn me -- but please don't ban me or chip me.
    Aquaries1111 wrote:Yes Oxy,

    A lot of people are going to "lose their minds".... We cannot judge.. Each had their pleasures and their lusts and relished in the submissions... Time for us to pave the way... with our minds "intact"... Always!
    I think that a lot of 'innocent' people are going to get hurt badly in connection with all of this. I think that the evolution of information could've been handled in a much more responsible manner. I don't have a problem with information and technology -- but both must be properly introduced and managed. Check out this multi-part interview with Acharya S. I continue to think that there is some merit to studying this particular thread -- with all of its diversity, speculation, imagery, and craziness. There really is a method to my madness...


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