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Thank you Chris ,
Question : do you think holding a grudge is a form of bad ego ?
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Ego
NANUXII- Posts : 608
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Thank you Chris ,
Question : do you think holding a grudge is a form of bad ego ?
greybeard- Posts : 319
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NANUXII wrote:greybeard wrote:All posts are welcome
Thanks for your contribution.
Thank you Chris ,
Question : do you think holding a grudge is a form of bad ego ?
Hi Nanu
I think to be practical is to accept that yes genuinely you were hurt but it is not helpful to have a grudge.
Who is the grudge hurting but yourself.
If some one else is holding a grudge then they have to deal with it.
Yes the ego want to take everything so personal.
As one grows spiritually then you are less inclined to be hurt--there is an acceptance of what is.
This moment you can sometimes do something about --a few minutes ago is already history it cant be changed only let go of as the best option.
Hope this helps.
Chris
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greybeard wrote:Hi Joe
good to see you here.
I'm on holiday in Skye at the moment--giving the ego a rest--smiling.
Love Chris
Ego giving ego a rest? Isn't that like congress voting themselves a raise?
Ego, the consummate comedian. LOL
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JoeEcho wrote:greybeard wrote:Hi Joe
good to see you here.
I'm on holiday in Skye at the moment--giving the ego a rest--smiling.
Love Chris
Ego giving ego a rest? Isn't that like congress voting themselves a raise?
Ego, the consummate comedian. LOL
Yes indeed.
Mine is like a pet dog--it follows me around but it does not belong to me..
Sometimes it gets out to play--and then !!!!
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Been a while
Hello Joe
Thanks to Mudra
Love Chris
Hello Joe
Thanks to Mudra
Love Chris
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"Its Coming! Are You Prepared For This?" David Icke
Been a while since I posted but this is important to share
Love to all here
Never forgotten.
Chris
Been a while since I posted but this is important to share
Love to all here
Never forgotten.
Chris
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Ashera wrote:
The consciousness of a self as a self; the I is the centre of the self
Quinn (Great Qinn was Rome) might have be an a**hole but what he unmistakingly realized was that no one could take in his brain, mind, or place, and he not the one of any other - he had reached self-consciousness and hunted for longevity.
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My field of expertise was psychology (Hypnotherapy NLP Psychotherapy)
Hence I am well aware of agenda, motivation,conditioning -- perceived pay value.
EGO
Aware of my own too, so restrict to the best of my ability.
I see repetition, memes, subtle devaluation of professionals on u tube
In the media this is very evident to a retired professional like me.
But not so to Joe average --they see it as truth not propaganda.
Funnily enough some of the best psychological advice is to be found in spiritual text.
"You are never angry for the reason you think you are" ACIM
It takes experience to look beyond the presenting anger and see what lies there, yet I dont make assumptions,
Its up to people to investigate what they present to the world-- very few do.
Most make the same mistakes over and over without seeing a pattern.
The ego would rather be responsible for the death of its host than be proved wrong
The third eye has to do with pattern recognition.
Intuition not to be dismissed lightly.
People feel something is far wrong.
However the ego will protect the current belief system.
I know very intelligent people who do not see through the the official narrative.
In UK the meme is GET TESTED SAVE LIVES CONTROL THE VIRUS
The NWO is driven by an agenda -- Their collective ego is for population reduction the The Georgia Guide Stones probably their work.
So I hope now the focus goes on what is happening now in the world rather than taking for granted the Government knows best
Where is all this leading to, what can we do about it?
Dont acquiesce.
For UK people
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/323442/
Chris
Hence I am well aware of agenda, motivation,conditioning -- perceived pay value.
EGO
Aware of my own too, so restrict to the best of my ability.
I see repetition, memes, subtle devaluation of professionals on u tube
In the media this is very evident to a retired professional like me.
But not so to Joe average --they see it as truth not propaganda.
Funnily enough some of the best psychological advice is to be found in spiritual text.
"You are never angry for the reason you think you are" ACIM
It takes experience to look beyond the presenting anger and see what lies there, yet I dont make assumptions,
Its up to people to investigate what they present to the world-- very few do.
Most make the same mistakes over and over without seeing a pattern.
The ego would rather be responsible for the death of its host than be proved wrong
The third eye has to do with pattern recognition.
Intuition not to be dismissed lightly.
People feel something is far wrong.
However the ego will protect the current belief system.
I know very intelligent people who do not see through the the official narrative.
In UK the meme is GET TESTED SAVE LIVES CONTROL THE VIRUS
The NWO is driven by an agenda -- Their collective ego is for population reduction the The Georgia Guide Stones probably their work.
So I hope now the focus goes on what is happening now in the world rather than taking for granted the Government knows best
Where is all this leading to, what can we do about it?
Dont acquiesce.
For UK people
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/323442/
Chris
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Carol- Admin
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Hi Chris. Thanks for the link. It seems we have a similar background and are the same age.
Here's the transcript of David Ick's video. Cheers
00:03
one of the great targets
00:05
is the heart i'm not talking about the
00:07
physical art though they are connected
00:09
i'm talking about the the heart vortex
00:11
within the human energy field
00:13
um the heart chakra or wheel of light as
00:16
they call it in the east
00:18
and and you know we think of love in a
00:21
certain way
00:22
uh being attracted to somebody or loving
00:25
your kids
00:26
but actually what i'm talking about and
00:29
i talk about this a lot in
00:30
the answer it's very different it
00:32
includes that of course
00:34
but but but love in its true sense
00:38
does not say i want the best for my kids
00:41
although we do of course we do it says i
00:44
want the best for everybody
00:47
and when you open this
00:51
it's not just love in the sense that
00:55
people
00:55
perceive it it opens you
00:59
to infinity it's our connection
01:03
to all that is has been and ever can be
01:07
and through that connection you
01:10
um have insight
01:13
you have um knowing this is this
01:18
when people have intuitive knowing where
01:20
do their hands go
01:21
look mate i just know i just know
01:24
this knows because it does know because
01:26
it's connected to that which does know
01:29
and when you open your heart
01:33
you're opening your connection
01:38
to a level of awareness
01:42
that allows you first of all to see the
01:44
connections
01:45
because you're coming from that level
01:46
where everything is one therefore you
01:48
can see the connections in the reality
01:50
you're experiencing
01:52
one definition i would give for
01:56
this kind of love is the absence of fear
02:01
i would call evil the absence of love i
02:03
think that's what evil is the absence of
02:05
love
02:06
you infuse um love into evil
02:09
it's not evil anymore it's absence of
02:12
love and
02:13
this is what this cult is it's the
02:14
absence of love that's why it does what
02:15
it does
02:17
it's also the absence of fear
02:20
because once you once you open to this
02:22
insight this self-identity
02:25
you know there's nothing to fear
02:30
because whatever happens whatever
02:32
experiences we're having there'll be
02:33
another one along in a minute
02:36
we are always an expression a
02:39
point of attention within all that is
02:41
has been and ever can be
02:44
and however bad the experience we're
02:46
currently having that is what we
02:48
always are all that is has been and ever
02:52
can be
02:53
um this does not fear
02:57
this will always do what it knows to be
03:00
right
03:02
and therefore does not consider
03:05
consequences
03:06
for doing what it knows to be right
03:09
because it would never consider
03:12
doing anything but what it knows to be
03:14
right thus
03:15
consequences are irrelevant
03:19
this says i'd like to do this but what
03:23
are the consequences and you'll always
03:24
find a list of
03:25
consequences why you wouldn't do it this
03:27
says
03:28
i do what i know to be right
03:31
consequences therefore
03:33
are not even a conversation
03:37
and one of the great fears that people
03:39
have
03:40
well it's the foundation fear i think is
03:42
the fear of the unknown which manifests
03:44
as the fear of death
03:46
and the manipulation of the fear of
03:47
death is the manipulation of this
03:49
pandemic
03:50
it's where people have been frozen in
03:52
fear because they fear death
03:54
it's why doctors have so much power well
03:58
actually
03:58
you are all that is has been and ever
04:00
can be and always will be you're just
04:01
having a brief experience
04:04
so this is without fear it doesn't
04:07
consider
04:08
consequences but what i mean by that is
04:10
it it knows that if you cross the road
04:12
in front of
04:13
a truck you're going to get damaged but
04:15
i mean consequences of
04:17
what will people do or think or say
04:19
about me what will happen to me
04:20
for doing what i know to be right
04:22
doesn't even consider those consequences
04:23
i never consider them
04:25
because to consider them is to consider
04:26
not doing what i know to be right
04:28
not having it because you reach this
04:31
point of connection
04:33
and this point of insight you know i'm
04:35
not sitting cross-legged on a mountain
04:36
like a buddha
04:37
anyone can do this it's our natural
04:39
state
04:40
we're being manipulated into an
04:42
unnatural state this is what i'm
04:43
describing is our natural state
04:46
um when you um when you open your heart
04:49
you know that death is
04:52
nothing except a
04:56
transfer of attention it's all it is
05:00
i've got a picture in in the answer and
05:03
it's of a
05:03
a bloke um with a a headset you know a
05:07
virtual reality headset and he's just
05:09
taking it off and looking around
05:11
and i put a caption underneath my god
05:14
i've just died
05:15
because that is what death is basically
05:18
it's taking the headset off it's it's
05:23
moving out of this brief experience into
05:25
the
05:26
expansive true self so when you open
05:29
this
05:30
all this comes to you you know all this
05:34
and therefore this
05:37
would never
05:40
never be intimidated
05:43
by authority seeking to impose itself
05:47
upon you when you know it's not
05:50
justified it's about destroying your
05:52
freedom this is freedom
05:56
it's the freedom of knowing that the the
05:59
scale
06:00
of who we really are it's the freedom of
06:04
connecting with all that
06:05
is i tell you when if if when there's a
06:09
revolution of this
06:11
acquiescence will stop this would never
06:14
acquiesce
06:16
to impositions on freedom never do it
06:18
always
06:19
does what it knows to be right this is
06:22
the revolution
06:24
um and the heart is the center of
06:26
everything and people talk about the
06:28
physical heart okay
06:29
but but but if you go back what they're
06:32
really talking about is this
06:34
heart the energetic heart um the
06:37
connection
06:39
out there and you look at all the things
06:42
all the symbolism through the aegis and
06:45
still today
06:47
relating to this open heart
06:51
heart of stone broken heart
06:55
all that you look at all this the
06:57
phrases relating to the heart
07:00
and and it's because this is the center
07:02
of everything
07:04
and we we've been manipulated to think
07:06
this is the center of everything it's
07:08
not
07:08
do you know that the heart is the the
07:10
biggest electromagnetic field most
07:12
powerful electromagnetic field in the
07:14
body
07:15
and this when it's open um
07:19
dominates the head what do people say
07:22
all the time
07:23
what does your head say okay what does
07:26
your heart say
07:28
and they take very different things
07:30
because this
07:31
is out there and this is down here
07:34
and uh when this opens everything uh
07:37
changes because
07:38
you change everything about you changes
07:41
it's what happened to me a long time ago
07:43
and changed my life and everyone can
07:45
access this whenever they want
07:47
any any time they want and and
07:50
what i would say is ditch
07:54
the bloody labels stop
07:57
identifying with labels they are a brief
08:01
experience even your name is a brief
08:04
experience you are the consciousness
08:09
having the experience so when someone
08:12
says to you who are you
08:15
you are all that is has has been it ever
08:17
can be having an experience
08:20
what you call yourself if when you if
08:23
you if you meet someone
08:24
and people say who are you they'll give
08:26
you their name
08:27
they'll give you their job they might
08:29
give you their family background that
08:31
their family history where they went to
08:33
school
08:34
that's what they're saying they are who
08:36
are you
08:38
but that's just what they've experienced
08:41
who am i all that is has been and ever
08:43
can be
08:44
having an experience called david ike
08:47
very brief
08:48
very interesting the point of attention
08:50
that i am
08:51
is an expression of the same
08:53
consciousness that the point of
08:54
attention
08:56
that you are is and the same with all of
08:59
us
08:59
so racism
09:03
and all these isms
09:06
and all these divisions
09:09
not only undesirable they are
09:14
confirmation that those that go
09:18
down that road are utterly clueless
09:22
about the nature of reality and the
09:24
nature of who they really
09:26
are and i see anti-racists
09:31
who are utterly utterly obsessed with
09:34
race
09:36
uh when it's just a brief
09:40
experience that's all it is
09:43
you are what is having the experience
09:46
and when we when that penny drops and
09:48
this
09:49
as a result opens game over
Here's the transcript of David Ick's video. Cheers
00:03
one of the great targets
00:05
is the heart i'm not talking about the
00:07
physical art though they are connected
00:09
i'm talking about the the heart vortex
00:11
within the human energy field
00:13
um the heart chakra or wheel of light as
00:16
they call it in the east
00:18
and and you know we think of love in a
00:21
certain way
00:22
uh being attracted to somebody or loving
00:25
your kids
00:26
but actually what i'm talking about and
00:29
i talk about this a lot in
00:30
the answer it's very different it
00:32
includes that of course
00:34
but but but love in its true sense
00:38
does not say i want the best for my kids
00:41
although we do of course we do it says i
00:44
want the best for everybody
00:47
and when you open this
00:51
it's not just love in the sense that
00:55
people
00:55
perceive it it opens you
00:59
to infinity it's our connection
01:03
to all that is has been and ever can be
01:07
and through that connection you
01:10
um have insight
01:13
you have um knowing this is this
01:18
when people have intuitive knowing where
01:20
do their hands go
01:21
look mate i just know i just know
01:24
this knows because it does know because
01:26
it's connected to that which does know
01:29
and when you open your heart
01:33
you're opening your connection
01:38
to a level of awareness
01:42
that allows you first of all to see the
01:44
connections
01:45
because you're coming from that level
01:46
where everything is one therefore you
01:48
can see the connections in the reality
01:50
you're experiencing
01:52
one definition i would give for
01:56
this kind of love is the absence of fear
02:01
i would call evil the absence of love i
02:03
think that's what evil is the absence of
02:05
love
02:06
you infuse um love into evil
02:09
it's not evil anymore it's absence of
02:12
love and
02:13
this is what this cult is it's the
02:14
absence of love that's why it does what
02:15
it does
02:17
it's also the absence of fear
02:20
because once you once you open to this
02:22
insight this self-identity
02:25
you know there's nothing to fear
02:30
because whatever happens whatever
02:32
experiences we're having there'll be
02:33
another one along in a minute
02:36
we are always an expression a
02:39
point of attention within all that is
02:41
has been and ever can be
02:44
and however bad the experience we're
02:46
currently having that is what we
02:48
always are all that is has been and ever
02:52
can be
02:53
um this does not fear
02:57
this will always do what it knows to be
03:00
right
03:02
and therefore does not consider
03:05
consequences
03:06
for doing what it knows to be right
03:09
because it would never consider
03:12
doing anything but what it knows to be
03:14
right thus
03:15
consequences are irrelevant
03:19
this says i'd like to do this but what
03:23
are the consequences and you'll always
03:24
find a list of
03:25
consequences why you wouldn't do it this
03:27
says
03:28
i do what i know to be right
03:31
consequences therefore
03:33
are not even a conversation
03:37
and one of the great fears that people
03:39
have
03:40
well it's the foundation fear i think is
03:42
the fear of the unknown which manifests
03:44
as the fear of death
03:46
and the manipulation of the fear of
03:47
death is the manipulation of this
03:49
pandemic
03:50
it's where people have been frozen in
03:52
fear because they fear death
03:54
it's why doctors have so much power well
03:58
actually
03:58
you are all that is has been and ever
04:00
can be and always will be you're just
04:01
having a brief experience
04:04
so this is without fear it doesn't
04:07
consider
04:08
consequences but what i mean by that is
04:10
it it knows that if you cross the road
04:12
in front of
04:13
a truck you're going to get damaged but
04:15
i mean consequences of
04:17
what will people do or think or say
04:19
about me what will happen to me
04:20
for doing what i know to be right
04:22
doesn't even consider those consequences
04:23
i never consider them
04:25
because to consider them is to consider
04:26
not doing what i know to be right
04:28
not having it because you reach this
04:31
point of connection
04:33
and this point of insight you know i'm
04:35
not sitting cross-legged on a mountain
04:36
like a buddha
04:37
anyone can do this it's our natural
04:39
state
04:40
we're being manipulated into an
04:42
unnatural state this is what i'm
04:43
describing is our natural state
04:46
um when you um when you open your heart
04:49
you know that death is
04:52
nothing except a
04:56
transfer of attention it's all it is
05:00
i've got a picture in in the answer and
05:03
it's of a
05:03
a bloke um with a a headset you know a
05:07
virtual reality headset and he's just
05:09
taking it off and looking around
05:11
and i put a caption underneath my god
05:14
i've just died
05:15
because that is what death is basically
05:18
it's taking the headset off it's it's
05:23
moving out of this brief experience into
05:25
the
05:26
expansive true self so when you open
05:29
this
05:30
all this comes to you you know all this
05:34
and therefore this
05:37
would never
05:40
never be intimidated
05:43
by authority seeking to impose itself
05:47
upon you when you know it's not
05:50
justified it's about destroying your
05:52
freedom this is freedom
05:56
it's the freedom of knowing that the the
05:59
scale
06:00
of who we really are it's the freedom of
06:04
connecting with all that
06:05
is i tell you when if if when there's a
06:09
revolution of this
06:11
acquiescence will stop this would never
06:14
acquiesce
06:16
to impositions on freedom never do it
06:18
always
06:19
does what it knows to be right this is
06:22
the revolution
06:24
um and the heart is the center of
06:26
everything and people talk about the
06:28
physical heart okay
06:29
but but but if you go back what they're
06:32
really talking about is this
06:34
heart the energetic heart um the
06:37
connection
06:39
out there and you look at all the things
06:42
all the symbolism through the aegis and
06:45
still today
06:47
relating to this open heart
06:51
heart of stone broken heart
06:55
all that you look at all this the
06:57
phrases relating to the heart
07:00
and and it's because this is the center
07:02
of everything
07:04
and we we've been manipulated to think
07:06
this is the center of everything it's
07:08
not
07:08
do you know that the heart is the the
07:10
biggest electromagnetic field most
07:12
powerful electromagnetic field in the
07:14
body
07:15
and this when it's open um
07:19
dominates the head what do people say
07:22
all the time
07:23
what does your head say okay what does
07:26
your heart say
07:28
and they take very different things
07:30
because this
07:31
is out there and this is down here
07:34
and uh when this opens everything uh
07:37
changes because
07:38
you change everything about you changes
07:41
it's what happened to me a long time ago
07:43
and changed my life and everyone can
07:45
access this whenever they want
07:47
any any time they want and and
07:50
what i would say is ditch
07:54
the bloody labels stop
07:57
identifying with labels they are a brief
08:01
experience even your name is a brief
08:04
experience you are the consciousness
08:09
having the experience so when someone
08:12
says to you who are you
08:15
you are all that is has has been it ever
08:17
can be having an experience
08:20
what you call yourself if when you if
08:23
you if you meet someone
08:24
and people say who are you they'll give
08:26
you their name
08:27
they'll give you their job they might
08:29
give you their family background that
08:31
their family history where they went to
08:33
school
08:34
that's what they're saying they are who
08:36
are you
08:38
but that's just what they've experienced
08:41
who am i all that is has been and ever
08:43
can be
08:44
having an experience called david ike
08:47
very brief
08:48
very interesting the point of attention
08:50
that i am
08:51
is an expression of the same
08:53
consciousness that the point of
08:54
attention
08:56
that you are is and the same with all of
08:59
us
08:59
so racism
09:03
and all these isms
09:06
and all these divisions
09:09
not only undesirable they are
09:14
confirmation that those that go
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down that road are utterly clueless
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about the nature of reality and the
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nature of who they really
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are and i see anti-racists
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who are utterly utterly obsessed with
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race
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uh when it's just a brief
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experience that's all it is
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you are what is having the experience
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and when we when that penny drops and
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this
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as a result opens game over
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It is the flash of a firefly in the night, the breath of a buffalo in the wintertime. It is the little shadow which runs across the grass and loses itself in the sunset.
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The quoted posts were from 2012, and I just added the videos in 2020. Dr. Norman Vincent Peale was Donald Trump's Pastor, and I was there at the Crystal Cathedral when Dr. Peale was the featured speaker. Around that time, I wondered aloud what a Robert H. Schuller Presidency would look like!! Honest!! Little did I know what would happen in 2016-2020!! OMG!! What are the strengths and weaknesses of Peale and Schuller relative to Trump and Pence?? What are the implications and ramifications of the Century of the Self documentary relative to the 21st century??
orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you devakas. A lot of research seems to involve spinning one's wheels -- wherein we are 'always learning, but never achieving a knowledge of the truth'. Nature is extremely important in all of this. Reading 'Move Ahead with Possibility Thinking' by Dr. Schuller, while laying in the sands of Newport Beach was at least as much fun as attending a service at the Crystal Cathedral. Unfortunately I don't think life is fair, and I don't think life cares. We are not born into a nice world and a level playing field, with ethical players and referees. Some of the fans even throw stones and stab us in the back. In this lawless world we live in, I absolutely believe in absolutes!devakas wrote:if me Ortho, than I would say I do not have time. Also I realized that there is a Book written to every person in this world. Nobody is left without knowledge as it would be not fair, agree? Just we need to find it for ourselves. I believe in absolute truth, some think they create truth. or think that all is random. again look at the flowers...orthodoxymoron wrote:I haven't been following this thread, but I thought I'd suggest reading the books by Dr. Robert H. Schuller -- regarding the ego and the self. I actually prefered reading his material, as opposed to hearing it. I agreed with 95% of what he said and wrote -- yet there was something very wrong in Garden Grove. I'd like to see what a Positive Response-Ability Based Crystal Cathedral Ministry might look like. Think long and hard about THAT!
i think everybody agrees you are most loveble person in mists.
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She writes that I am so and so old, knows my academic qualifications vaguely because she repressed the central part (could not get it) and treats me as if I was so 16 years old...
In some cases "twin phenomenon" is rather a metaphor, used to signify more or less recent "social double-slit experiments". Taking the idea of the observer created universe into consideration also the objectivity of the physically measured is to question...
I never gave up the original idea of the "dual drive fate" that Sigmund Freud originally had because the anthropological data supported that. This what is sometimes diagnosed as "schizophrenia" is in certain cases factually the by socialization repressed personality
As I explained it sometimes already - the schizogenic super-ego... this expertise reveals the syndrome clearly. One can mostly reduce it to this simple sentence: I love you but I do not like you... this is a typical parental double-bind to produce obedience
Socialization represses the "I" for the sake of a "social ego". The LORD one could call the "super-ego", and this is the parental adult state. The way of the "I" is quite different.
"I would characterize our recent state between capitalism and communism as “adult state” of a certain type of living social systems, the mass or inertia type. The multi-layered world model is not valid here; instead an explosive mixture, a vaguely codified centralized chaos (tohuwabohu) is effective. And, the respective center wants to be mirrored in any theory or praxis, slowing down any individual intention or self-dynamics close to zero."
https://asheraxonline.tumblr.com/post/63163313663/a-participant-universe
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Hi Carol
thanks for the resume on David Icke video
Im not sure whereto put this one please shift or advise.
All lies are down to ego taking up a position.
Chris
thanks for the resume on David Icke video
Im not sure whereto put this one please shift or advise.
All lies are down to ego taking up a position.
Chris
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Ego tends to get active when out and about with people. Being a self-imposed recluse helps to keep it tampered down where it can't be out mucking about getting into trouble.
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With deepest respect ~ Aloha & Mahalo, Carol
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The only way out is individuation.
Btw.: I give to Save the Children every month from my small money for many years now.
Btw.: I give to Save the Children every month from my small money for many years now.
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Carol wrote:Ego tends to get active when out and about with people. Being a self-imposed recluse helps to keep it tampered down where it can't be out mucking about getting into trouble.
Yes Carol
Best definition Ive heard of Ego came from the late Dr David Hawkins.
"Ego is identification with the story of me"
Chris
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Ashera wrote:The only way out is individuation.
Btw.: I give to Save the Children every month from my small money for many years now.
You're right on target Ashera and you have a good/kind heart.
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With deepest respect ~ Aloha & Mahalo, Carol
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n AA you have to know you are licked before you begin to recover --
The recovery is not down to the individual but belief in a Higher Power.
Surrender the answer.
The ego does not get that.
"Acts happen
Deeds are done
There is no individual doer there of"
There is apparent free will in duality
Chris
The recovery is not down to the individual but belief in a Higher Power.
Surrender the answer.
The ego does not get that.
"Acts happen
Deeds are done
There is no individual doer there of"
There is apparent free will in duality
Chris
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It is not a "higher power" but the "Fire from Within"
Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The example of His light is like a niche within which is a lamp, the lamp is within glass, the glass as if it were a pearly [white] star lit from [the oil of] a blessed olive tree, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil would almost glow even if untouched by fire. Light upon light. Allah guides to His light whom He wills. And Allah presents examples for the people, and Allah is Knowing of all things.
- Sura Al Nur (The Light) 24:35
Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The example of His light is like a niche within which is a lamp, the lamp is within glass, the glass as if it were a pearly [white] star lit from [the oil of] a blessed olive tree, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil would almost glow even if untouched by fire. Light upon light. Allah guides to His light whom He wills. And Allah presents examples for the people, and Allah is Knowing of all things.
- Sura Al Nur (The Light) 24:35
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Ashera wrote:It is not a "higher power" but the "Fire from Within"
Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The example of His light is like a niche within which is a lamp, the lamp is within glass, the glass as if it were a pearly [white] star lit from [the oil of] a blessed olive tree, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil would almost glow even if untouched by fire. Light upon light. Allah guides to His light whom He wills. And Allah presents examples for the people, and Allah is Knowing of all things.
- Sura Al Nur (The Light) 24:35
Yes thats true-- I used Higher Power as thats how AA defines it.
My belief is non-duality --One without a second
Advaita Vedanta.
You could say there is nowhere that "God" is not.
God is a word-- I prefer Divine energy.
Chris
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Sura 36
Glory be to the One Who created all in pairs of what grows on the earth and themselves, and of what they know not. And a Sign for them is the night. We withdraw from it the day. But behold! They are those in darkness. And the sun runs to a term appointed for it. That is the Decree of Allah All-Mighty, the All-Knowing!
صفة مجرور
Definition is Isharat.
Glory be to the One Who created all in pairs of what grows on the earth and themselves, and of what they know not. And a Sign for them is the night. We withdraw from it the day. But behold! They are those in darkness. And the sun runs to a term appointed for it. That is the Decree of Allah All-Mighty, the All-Knowing!
صفة مجرور
H2O <> H3O
Definition is Isharat.
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Dr. Andrew Kaufman: COVID Reveals Pathology of Scientific Materialism & Need to (re)THINK Health
A lot worth thinking about.
Chris
A lot worth thinking about.
Chris
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An experience of singularity is to experience 'god consciousness' in its ad infinitum (without end or limit). There really are no words that can define this experience as it does not exist within the confines of the mind but only in the context of spirit.
Individuation is different as it's more the merging of various aspects of ego where one becomes 'whole' as in self-realization which can or cannot include the experience of singularity.
In Jungian psychology
In Jungian psychology, also called analytical psychology, individuation is the process where the individual self develops out of an undifferentiated unconscious – seen as a developmental psychic process during which innate elements of personality, the components of the immature psyche, and the experiences of the person's life become, if the process is more or less successful, integrated over time into a well-functioning whole.[citation needed] Other psychoanalytic theorists describe it as the stage where an individual transcends group attachment and narcissistic self-absorption.[5]
In physics
Two quantum entangled particles cannot be understood independently. Two or more states in quantum superposition, e.g., as in Schrödinger's cat being simultaneously dead and alive, is mathematically not the same as assuming the cat is in an individual alive state with 50% probability. The Heisenberg's uncertainty principle says that complementary variables, such as position and momentum, cannot both be precisely known – in some sense, they are not individual variables. A natural criterion of individuality has been suggested.[10]
The experience of singularity is best describe in quantum physics terms. One is both the dew drop while simultaneously experiencing cosmic oceanic consciousness. There is no me, or you. No we. One's conscious awareness just IS, similar to a fractal in constant unfolding movement where all knowledge exists in a primordial soup so-to-speak. In this state of awareness ego is non-existent. It's to small to contain an ever unfolding expansion of awareness. It can only be the observer/witness to a bigger reality that exists outside of the realm time and space.
Individuation is different as it's more the merging of various aspects of ego where one becomes 'whole' as in self-realization which can or cannot include the experience of singularity.
In Jungian psychology
In Jungian psychology, also called analytical psychology, individuation is the process where the individual self develops out of an undifferentiated unconscious – seen as a developmental psychic process during which innate elements of personality, the components of the immature psyche, and the experiences of the person's life become, if the process is more or less successful, integrated over time into a well-functioning whole.[citation needed] Other psychoanalytic theorists describe it as the stage where an individual transcends group attachment and narcissistic self-absorption.[5]
In physics
Two quantum entangled particles cannot be understood independently. Two or more states in quantum superposition, e.g., as in Schrödinger's cat being simultaneously dead and alive, is mathematically not the same as assuming the cat is in an individual alive state with 50% probability. The Heisenberg's uncertainty principle says that complementary variables, such as position and momentum, cannot both be precisely known – in some sense, they are not individual variables. A natural criterion of individuality has been suggested.[10]
The experience of singularity is best describe in quantum physics terms. One is both the dew drop while simultaneously experiencing cosmic oceanic consciousness. There is no me, or you. No we. One's conscious awareness just IS, similar to a fractal in constant unfolding movement where all knowledge exists in a primordial soup so-to-speak. In this state of awareness ego is non-existent. It's to small to contain an ever unfolding expansion of awareness. It can only be the observer/witness to a bigger reality that exists outside of the realm time and space.
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With deepest respect ~ Aloha & Mahalo, Carol
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There is the appearance of the wave, who can deny that the wave is water.
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greybeard wrote:There is the appearance of the wave, who can deny that the wave is water.
or is it just energy that can become anything?
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Carol wrote:greybeard wrote:There is the appearance of the wave, who can deny that the wave is water.
or is it just energy that can become anything?
The formless becomes the form -- any form.
I know you know Carol smiling
A good "definition"
We are form --formless -- both and neither.
Chris
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