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    Gulf Oil Platform Explosion and Spill

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    Post  mudra Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:47 am

    Thank you metaw . I understand now what your point was .
    One more guy who wants to make nothing out of something .
    Dangerous people imo.

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    Post  mudra Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:42 pm

    enemyofNWO wrote:Australian 60 Minutes program that was pulled by BP demand .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcvzkrPL9C4&feature=player_embedded

    Thank you enemyofNWO .. I am glad this is beginning to be a matter of concern for far
    away countries .
    There were only two parts available to that program .
    Has the rest been deleted or to be found anywhere else than youtube ?

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    Post  lawlessline Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:48 pm

    mudra wrote:Something for Lawless to give some comments on ?



    Love from me
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    Inés,

    Interesting video. Thanks for giving me the heads so I can get my teeth into it.

    This is a very big subject so I will try and keep it to the bare info. Please don't jump to conclusions due to the depth that this can go.

    1. A Ley line is a line created by humans. They are straight lines and can be used both for Black and White Magic. This is Geomancy, which I feel should be called Humancy.

    2. Gemanic Ley lines can be broken so they hold no more pôwer, certainly if they are being used against the wishes of the Earth Energy. This is quite new and part of the changes that have come into effect since Xmas 2009, 23/12/09 to be procise. This is because the vibration of the earth has increased 2 fold at that point.

    3. This ley lines are not to be confused with Geo Ley Energy Lines, A term I use in my book, which is the vibration of the earth. These are lines that can be used for ascention, telepathy, RV, healing and every other spiritual and Human pyshic art. Without this energy you are just kidding yourself.

    4. The person in the video talks about sites that are close to the line that "HE" has created on a map. He may well be right because these black arts are used throughout the world and throughout time. As I said before if the right person is on the ground then they can perfom certain acts that can break these lines and the power they have.

    5. These balck lines only hold a true power when they are a closed circuit. As he has shown on the maps the lines are open ended and I feel he is jumping on a band wagon, trying to get alot of publicity for something.

    6. Last but not least. THE UNFORGIVABLE USE OF THE IMAGE OF THE MICHAEL/MARY LINE.These lines are part of the Geo Ley Energy line network that I mentioned Earlier. To claim that this has something to do with Ley energy lines is just kids play. Disappointing that something as important as what this subject is that someone can make the most basic of errors. Or could be just a play for cheap publicity.

    If you wish to know about Geomancy, because as I said earlier, these lines can be used for both aspects, black and white magic.

    If anyone is interest in Geomancy then they should visit a friend of mines site, a man from Avalon, Glastonbury, England.He is a very straight talker and has loads of info if need be.

    http://www.geomancy.org

    If anyone wishes to know about the Earth's vibrational Geo Ley Line network I will start a thread?

    Also I would love to offer my book to all active members here, at cost price of printing and posting. The book will be available in September.

    It may not be the answers you are looking for Inés, but salt should be added to all info, here is a classic example. But if there are people who are in the area we could try and work something out to break the lines if they are truly there. I will be dowsing them later tonight on Google maps and should have some more info then.

    Man confusion gets everywhere. I am disappointed in the facts presented on this vid. I feel there is alot of images and messing around from this video maker without dowing the homework on the land itself. feeling the vibration with your h=whole being.

    love as always,

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    Post  mudra Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:19 pm

    Thank you for taking the time to comment on this Tom .
    I really posted the vid so you could give your point of view on it having not enough background on the subject myself.
    I completely trust your assessement of it .
    The angle from which this man was taking it was interesting enough though.
    So as you do some dowsing on the area tonight come and tell us if there is anything there we should know .

    Looking forward to read your book Tom .
    That will be one of these breath of oxygen into all this mess :)

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    Post  lawlessline Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:21 pm

    mudra wrote:Thank you for taking the time to comment on this Tom .
    I really posted the vid so you could give your point of view on it having not enough background on the subject myself.
    I completely trust your assessement of it .
    The angle from which this man was taking it was interesting enough though.
    So as you do some dowsing on the area tonight come and tell us if there is anything there we should know .

    Looking forward to read your book Tom .
    That will be one of these breath of oxygen into all this mess :)

    Love from me
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    Inés

    I didn't mean the comments at you. You are a friend that I apreciate daily and you have done a fantastic job getting alot of info out there. Without you alot would be lost.

    A true light ina sometimes shadowy world.

    t

    Edited post: I believe that he is on to something all the same. These things rarely are place by accident. just like 9/11. But I may not be the best person to give the clarification due to the fact that I am concerned by the earths vibration rather than Geoamncy. But will look at it later and give what views I get back.

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    Post  mudra Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:24 pm

    Published on Friday, June 18, 2010 by Scientific America
    Is Using Dispersants on the BP Gulf Oil Spill Fighting Pollution with Pollution?


    It remains unclear what impact chemical dispersants will have on sea life--and only the massive, uncontrolled experiment being run in the Gulf of Mexico will tell
    by David Biello
    Roughly five million liters of dispersants have now been used to break up the oil spilling into the Gulf of Mexico, making this the largest use of such chemicals in U.S. history. If it continues for 10 months, as long as Mexico's Ixtoc 1 blowout in 1979 in the same region, the Macondo well disaster has a good chance of achieving the largest global use of these chemicals, surpassing 10 million liters.

    AERIAL ASSAULT: Some 3.5 million liters of dispersants were applied to the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, including spraying from aircraft like this U.S. Air Force C-130 on May 5. (U.S. Air Force Photo by Tech. Sgt. Adrian Cadiz)And there is no doubt that dispersants are toxic: Both types of the dispersal compound COREXIT used in the Gulf so far are capable of killing or depressing the growth of a wide range of aquatic species, ranging from phytoplankton to fish. "It's a trade-off decision to lessen the overall environmental impact," explained marine biologist Jane Lubchenco, director of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), at a press conference on May 12. "When an oil spill occurs, there are no good outcomes."

    The trade-off in this case is the addition of toxic chemicals in a bid to protect the marshes of Louisiana and the beaches of Florida. But the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), for one, has become concerned about the toxicity of the most-used dispersant at the Gulf of Mexico spill-COREXIT 9500-and ordered BP to look at alternatives. (COREXIT 9527 was used earlier during the spill, but it was discontinued because it was considered too toxic.)

    The problem? The EPA's industry-generated data is unclear as to the relative toxicity of various dispersants. "If you think the data on COREXIT is bad, try to find any decent toxicology data on the alternatives," says toxicologist Carys Mitchelmore of the University of Maryland's Chesapeake Biological Laboratory, who helped write a 2005 National Research Council (NRC) report on dispersants. "I couldn't compare and contrast which one was more toxic than the other based on that."

    Dispersed oil Both COREXIT 9500 and 9527 are produced by Naperville, Ill.-based Nalco, a company better known for its water purification work with the oil industry. "For every barrel of oil produced, 3.5 barrels of water are produced," explains chemist Mani Ramesh, chief technology officer for Nalco. "That needs to be treated before it can be released. That water treatment has been a core area for us."

    But at the same time Nalco keeps busy cleaning the oil industry's water, it also provides COREXIT, a product to minimize the impact of any oil that spills into the water. Developed in a joint venture with ExxonMobil, the compound is largely made at facilities in Sugarland, Tex., and Garyville, La. The company expects to sell some $40-million worth of COREXIT as a result of the latest spill. "What the dispersant process enables is to prevent the oil from reaching the shore and converts that oil to easy food for naturally occurring microbes," Ramesh says. "If the oil reaches the shore the decomposition rate of oil is so low it would remain on the shore for probably 100 years."

    By last week, the EPA and Nalco had both released the ingredient list for COREXIT 9500 in response to widespread public concern. Its constituents include butanedioic acid (a wetting agent in cosmetics), sorbitan (found in everything from baby bath to food), and petroleum distillates in varying proportions-and it decomposes almost entirely in 28 days. "All six [ingredients] are used in day-to-day life-in mouthwash, toothpaste, ice cream, pickles," Ramesh argues. "We believe COREXIT 9500 is very safe."

    The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention agrees, noting in a document for health professionals that "the dispersants contain proven, biodegradable and low-toxicity surfactants," which are "detergentlike" and "in low toxicity solvents."

    However, those solvents-petroleum distillates-are also known animal carcinogens, according to toxicology data, and make up 10 to 30 percent of a given volume of COREXIT. And those same everyday products can be deadly to wildlife. "It's the same products in Dawn dishwasher soap," Mitchelmore notes, which is being used widely to clean up oiled birds and other animals. "I wouldn't want to put a fish in Dawn dishwashing soap either. That would kill it."

    As a result, the EPA ordered BP to stop spraying dispersants on the oil slick on May 26. The EPA also ordered BP to look for less toxic alternatives on May 20, and the company responded in a letter dated that same day that "BP continues to believe that COREXIT EC9500A is the best alternative." The dispersant continues to be sprayed onto the ongoing oil spill.

    Read more at the link : http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/06/18-9

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    Post  mudra Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:42 pm

    lawlessline wrote:

    Inés

    I didn't mean the comments at you. You are a friend that I apreciate daily and you have done a fantastic job getting alot of info out there. Without you alot would be lost.

    A true light ina sometimes shadowy world.

    t

    Thank you Tom .. that' s what I am here for .
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    Team action really .

    Looking back at the thread I feel we have come
    a long way and are now having quite an accurate vision of what's taking
    place in the Gulf .
    It took sometime to separate truth from lies and navigate through the doom
    and gloom reports with a discerning eye but we are getting there .
    We may well now know about all that is necessary to know .
    It's a matter now of keeping close track of where this is leading us
    while remaining poised and balance and focussed not on the " worst case scenario " but rather the best possible outcome .

    Thanks to everyone for your contributions .
    They are highly appreciated .

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    Post  lawlessline Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:45 pm

    mudra wrote:
    lawlessline wrote:

    Inés

    I didn't mean the comments at you. You are a friend that I apreciate daily and you have done a fantastic job getting alot of info out there. Without you alot would be lost.

    A true light ina sometimes shadowy world.

    t

    Thank you Tom .. that' s what I am here for .
    And I am not alone Gulf Oil Platform Explosion and Spill - Page 27 Icon_cheers
    Team action really .

    Looking back at the thread I feel we have come
    a long way and are now having quite an accurate vision of what's taking
    place in the Gulf .
    It took sometime to separate truth from lies and navigate through the doom
    and gloom reports with a discerning eye but we are getting there .
    We may well now know about all that is necessary to know .
    It's a matter now of keeping close track of where this is leading us
    while remaining poised and balance and focussed not on the " worst case scenario " but rather the best possible outcome .

    Thanks to everyone for your contributions .
    They are highly appreciated .

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    OK GROUP HUG EVERYONE. flower
    Thats great;


    Now back to work.
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    Post  anomalous cowherd Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:49 pm

    I am going for the group hug but must reiterate, be wary of anything that comes from a moderator at GLP , word to the wisest, there is a lot more to this than we can know for sure,I am very much keeping to the middle path on this one and I am not jumping out of my skin with despondency , just focusing on the 911 elements... its all bad but good is coming.
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    Post  lawlessline Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:52 pm

    anomalous cowherd wrote:I am going for the group hug but must reiterate, be wary of anything that comes from a moderator at GLP , word to the wisest, there is a lot more to this than we can know for sure,I am very much keeping to the middle path on this one and I am not jumping out of my skin with despondency , just focusing on the 911 elements... its all bad but good is coming.

    Thanks for your wise words of caution AC. Thats the sort thing I wanted to say aqbout the Ley line video.

    No jumpy just hugging.

    Love to you,

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    Post  mudra Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:00 pm

    WAKE UP – BP Will Continue to Use Deadly Dispersants to Cover Up
    Their Crime Scene If We Do Not Act Now!

    http://oilspilltruth.wordpress.com/2010/05/19/wake-up-bp-will-continue-to-use-deadly-dispersants-to-cover-up-their-crime-scene/

    Another extensive article regarding the use of dispersants .
    It's been published in may but contains lots of infos and a petition to sign .


    Please sign the petition at this link :

    http://www.thepetitionsite.com/25/stop-the-use-of-dispersants-in-the-gulf

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    Post  mudra Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:29 pm

    anomalous cowherd wrote:I am going for the group hug but must reiterate, be wary of anything that comes from a moderator at GLP , word to the wisest, there is a lot more to this than we can know for sure,I am very much keeping to the middle path on this one and I am not jumping out of my skin with despondency , just focusing on the 911 elements... its all bad but good is coming.

    I agree anomalous we must not jump to conclusions . I am well aware of the false flag you are following . If you come across any further elements to substantiate that view please do share them . I must say that at this point of time wether this oil spill is genuine or made up what is very clear and that we can all agree on is the damage done .
    If we could reach a point where these dispersants are stopped being used for a start I personnally would see this as a sign of a positive move . It would already be quite a relief.

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    Post  spiritwarrior Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:20 pm

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    will try and share some posts before i go.

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    Post  spiritwarrior Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:23 pm

    http://www.alliedminds.com/AnnouncementRetrieve.aspx?ID=37414


    AXI Awarded U.S.
    Department of Energy Grant for Biofuel Research
    21-Jan-2010

    U.S.
    Department of Energy Secretary Steven Chu announced the investment of
    $44 million in federal stimulus money to AXI, LLC and 25 other members
    of the National Alliance for Advanced Biofuel and Bio-products (NAABB)
    consortium for advanced biofuel research. NAABB will develop a systems
    approach for sustainable commercialization of algal biofuels, and AXI
    will contribute at the front end of this landmark initiative with its
    expertise in algal biology. “Basic research is seminal to the success of
    this project. Unless we understand the organisms that produce the oil
    themselves, we will be working in the dark,” said Dr. Rose Ann
    Cattolico, the inventor of AXI technology. “We are eager to help our
    consortium partners maximize their cultivation, harvesting, extraction,
    and fuel conversion processes by identifying optimal algal strains for
    use,” added Chris Silva, President of AXI.

    Understanding the
    basic biology of how algae makes oil at different times of the day, for
    example, can help determine the best time to harvest it, as well as the
    best light intensity for growth. “People forget that we are not going to
    have one alga which serves all the biofuel needs of the country. We are
    going to have different alga strains for different parts of the
    country. Some are going to grow in waste water better than others, some
    in high or low temperature better than others, and some in continuous
    light versus low light density better than others,” explained Dr.
    Cattolico. Therefore, algal strain selection is going to be very
    important to the success of algal biofuel commercialization. Dr.
    Cattolico emphasized, “It doesn’t matter how good you are at growing
    algae in a pond, or harvesting oil, if you don’t use the best possible
    algal strain.”

    NAABB consists of leading scientists and
    engineers from universities, private industry, and government, and will
    facilitate sharing expertise and technologies. Partners include: The
    Donald Danforth Plant Science Center, the Los Alamos National
    Laboratory, Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, University of
    Arizona, Brooklyn College, Colorado State University, New Mexico State
    University, Texas AgriLife Research -Texas A&M University System,
    University of California Los Angeles, University of California San
    Diego, University of Washington, Washington University in St. Louis,
    Washington State University, AXI, Catilin, Diversified Energy, Eldorado
    Biofuels, Genifuel, HR Biopetroleum, Inventure, Kai BioEnergy, Palmer
    Labs, Solix Biofuels, Targeted Growth, Terrabon, and UOP.

    About
    AXI, LLC
    AXI, LLC is a privately-held startup company formed by
    Allied Minds, Inc. to commercialize novel technology that creates
    advantageous strains of algae for the production of biofuels. These new
    algae strains will bridge the gap between the promise of clean energy
    generation and the reality of economical biofuel production systems. The
    technology was originally developed at University of Washington in
    Seattle by Dr. Rose Ann Cattolico. For more information, please visit
    the AXI website: www.axillc.com

    About
    National Alliance for Advanced Biofuels and Bioproducts (NAABB)


    Led
    by the Donald Danforth Plant Science Center (St. Louis, Missouri), NAABB
    will develop a systems approach for sustainable commercialization of
    algal biofuel (such as renewable gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel) and
    bioproducts. NAABB will integrate resources from companies,
    universities, and national laboratories to overcome the critical
    barriers of cost, resource use and efficiency, greenhouse gas emissions,
    and commercial viability. It will develop and demonstrate the science
    and technology necessary to significantly increase production of algal
    biomass and lipids, efficiently harvest and extract algae and algal
    products, and establish valuable certified co-products that scale with
    renewable fuel production. Co-products include animal feed, industrial
    feedstocks, and additional energy generation. Multiple test sites will
    cover diverse environmental regions to facilitate broad deployment.
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    Post  spiritwarrior Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:23 pm

    Spring Algae Bloom:
    an inside look at the DOE’s new algal fuels consortium, the NAABB.


    http://www.biofuelsdigest.com/bdigest/2
    ... the-naabb/

    springalgaebloomIt was a cold
    Wednesday afternoon in January when the news came through that a
    consortium called the National Alliance for Advanced Biofuels and
    Bioproducts had received a $44 million grant from the Department of
    Energy. Another group called the National Advanced Biofuels Consortium
    had won the other. In all, DOE said it would invest $80 million in a
    consortia approach to solving technical challenges such as outlined in
    the Algal Biomass Roadmap process, commenced in late 2008.

    2009-10
    had been a cold winter; for many the winter would turn colder still,
    until it seemed as if Washington DC would be buried in snow as deep as
    the paperwork. But the news of the grants took some of the chill and
    gloom out of a winter’s day otherwise livened by the opening of the
    Cobalt pilot in California and news that PetroAlgae had signed a master
    license for Egypt and Morocco.

    Here is the announcement as it
    arrived over the newswires:

    Led by the Donald Danforth Plant
    Science Center (St. Louis, MO), NAABB will develop a systems approach
    for sustainable commercialization of algal biofuel (such as renewable
    gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel) and bioproducts. NAABB will integrate
    resources from companies, universities, and national laboratories to
    overcome the critical barriers of cost, resource use and efficiency,
    greenhouse gas emissions, and commercial viability. It will develop and
    demonstrate the science and technology necessary to significantly
    increase production of algal biomass and lipids, efficiently harvest and
    extract algae and algal products, and establish valuable certified
    co-products that scale with renewable fuel production. Co-products
    include animal feed, industrial feedstocks, and additional energy
    generation. Multiple test sites will cover diverse environmental regions
    to facilitate broad deployment.

    Partners are: Los Alamos
    National Laboratory, Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, University
    of Arizona, Brooklyn College, Colorado State University, New Mexico
    State University, Texas AgriLife Research, Texas A&M University
    System, University of California Los Angeles, University of California
    San Diego, University of Washington, Washington University in St. Louis,
    Washington State University, AXI, Catilin, Diversified Energy, Eldorado
    Biofuels, Genifuel, HR BioPetroleum, Inventure, Kai BioEnergy, Palmer
    Labs, Solix Biofuels, Targeted Growth, Terrabon, UOP.

    The huge
    number of partners and the scope of the work seeming daunting — who
    would get such a large group to work together effectively, and on a
    three-year timeline instead of the more elongated timelines sometimes
    associated with the national labs and academia. Algal research pioneer
    Dr. Richard Sayre at the the Donald Danforth Center in St. Louis, who is
    leading science for the project, quickly identified Dr. Jose Olivares
    at the Los Alamos National Laboratory, as the principal investigator and
    driving force behind the consortium.

    Los Alamos hasn’t been as
    much in the headlines on algal development as, say, the National
    Renewable Energy Laboratory — but a partnership with algal pioneer Solix
    Biofuels had been announced only the previous day, in which Solix said
    that it would incorporate LANL sound-wave technology to optimize algal
    growth.

    According to a report last September in Earth2Tech at the
    time of the initial R&D agreement between LANL and Solix, “Los
    Alamos’ acoustic-focusing technology generates ultrasonic fields that
    concentrate algal cells into a dense sludge and extract oil. Solix hopes
    that combining the concentration and extraction steps into one process
    will eliminate the need for centrifuges and solvents (traditional
    extraction methods) — and at the same time, significantly cut the cost
    of producing the biofuel.”

    When the news was announced by DOE —
    it came via a press release and little fanfare or advance preparation.
    In fact, DOE is famously tight-lipped about grants — and applicants are
    generally reluctant to share details publicly for fear of upsetting the
    grant review process.

    Like a lot of people, the Digest is highly
    curious about how exactly the consortia came together, what it aims to
    achieve, how the DOE process worked, and what innovations we might
    expect from the team over the next few years. We spoke this week with
    Dr. Olivares at LANL to learn more about the mysterious workings of the
    DOE grant process, and the goals and timelines for the consortium.

    Digest:
    How did the consortium come together. What was the basic approach?

    JO:
    “It’s the first time I’ve put a consortium of this size together. You
    learn as you go. We had several principles. One, inclusiveness, to make
    sure you had a broad perspective, from the national labs, academia and
    industry. Two, understanding the algae value chain as best as we could,
    and making sure we had good organizations in each area. The third, I
    think may be the one that made us click, was being transparent and being
    supportive. Not coming in with “mine is better than yours” but how
    could we build this together. When it came to the hard decisions, it
    made it possible to have an attitude that the “best outcome” was
    important. That helped.

    Digest: How did the process work?

    JO:
    Our approach was very regional at first, how do we bring the
    southwestern united states to a primary focal point. We have great
    universities, three national labs and a number of algae companies in
    this region. As we developed the vision and looked at the entire value
    chain, what we ended up with was a truly national organization.

    We
    built the consortium in a very academic way. We searched out
    institutions with biofuel capabilities, asked them to submit proposals
    with projects and budgets. When we added it all up, we had $120 million,
    and we had to bring it down to $50 million. A lot of folks were left
    out – that part of the process can consume a loose organization if not
    done with transparency.

    In one of two instances we had to take an
    institution out completely, when they were not a team player and were
    undermining the health of the team. Some groups wanted to hoard
    everything and it undermined the discussions. It was negative and had to
    be taken out quickly.

    Digest: How did the decisions about
    ‘paring down’ take place? What were some of the projects eliminated, and
    why?

    JO: Many of the academic institutions had very strong
    algal biology programs, we had a three to one capacity in algal biology
    in terms of what we had compared to what we ultimately needed. For
    example, we had several nice proposals to develop capabilities for
    protein engineering in algae — we had a lot of interest in that here at
    Los Alamos National Lab. But we saw that these technologies were too far
    away in terms of commercial potential to make a huge impact in the near
    future, and our goal was not incremental innovation over the next three
    years.

    Digest: How did you select the industry partners?

    JO:
    In terms of academia, we were very strong upstream with algal biology
    and cultivation, not as strong in downstream, especially in areas such
    as development of conversion to biofuels. That’s where our industry
    partners and PNNL were generally focused. It’s the old story – R&D
    often comes with a big R and a little D for academia, and the other way
    around for industry, with the national labs somewhere in between.
    Maybe that’s the way it has to happen.

    Digest: How did you
    interface with the DOE during the period of development, and the
    application?

    JO: From a policy perspective we had been aware of
    what was coming down from our participation with DOE in the Algal
    Biomass Roadmap Workshop in December 2008. That greatly helped develop
    our vision – at least myself and some others – and it educated me on the
    complexity of the industry. There were quite a few hurdles. For us, our
    approach was hands off to the DOE – we see each other at conferences,
    and I went to the DOE for their conference in May or June, but after the
    proposal call came out, we had very little communication with DOE. We
    were trying not to market ourselves but position ourselves as players in
    the national pipeline. Our goal was keeping the consortium on track —
    and occasionally I would hear of other consortia who were falling apart
    over minor issues. For their part, DOE stayed out of the picture and it
    let us do what we needed to do.

    Digest: The grant was for $44
    million over three years, and there was a strong cost sharing element.
    Tell us about that.

    JO: In all, we have $19 million in cost
    shares. This includes $7.6 million from academia and $11.6 million from
    industry. Overall we brought 31 percent, well over the 20 percent
    minimum.

    Digest: Tell us about your timelines for getting to
    work.

    JO: We originally applied for a $49 million grant and the
    Secretary awarded $44 million, so we are negotiating right now with the
    DOE and looking at our plan. April 15th is our official kick off
    meeting, but the authorization to start work should be around April 1st.
    Some institutions are held up a bit more because they have
    environmental reviews to complete as well as in some cases some
    budgetary issues. Also one or two institutions have components that need
    to be locked down – such as a test bed – that we don’t yet have. One of
    the major parts is developing a co-product for animal feed – that’s
    held up a little because for DOE-EERE this is the first time they have
    experienced a NEPA review on animal testing and they are not as familiar
    with that. We’re helping them with that process.

    Digest: What
    are your targets?

    JO: We have very ambitious targets, which can
    be viewed here. We didn’t promise DOE that all of these would be met
    within the three-year time frame. But our attitude was, if we’re going
    to make the industry viable we have to have these targets. That
    impressed DOE, I think.

    Digest: Take us through your
    deliverables.

    JO: In algal biology, our goals include developing
    new strains with qualities such as resistance to predators, and very
    high yields in biomass and lipid production. In cultivation area, we are
    studying the process of scale up, with four test beds with different
    levels of capacity. In harvesting and oil extract, we are starting with
    five technologies and hop to focus down to one or two for harvesting the
    algae in a very energy efficient manner, and that are very cost
    effective.In conversion, there are six different technologies we’ve
    chosen to take on and we are investigating biodiesel, gasoline and jet
    fuel. In co-products, we are very interested in developing a high value,
    high nutrient animal feed.

    Digest: Other goals?

    JO:
    Sustainability and understanding the use of CO2 and other nutrients. In
    sustainability, we are especially focused on the utilization of
    resources, for example land and water resources and using residue waters
    such as water waste from oil fields. The second is CO2. Plus, we are
    carefully examining the economic inputs and outputs; especially the
    energy costs, such as location and transportation inputs and outputs,
    moving water and transporting fuel.

    Digest: There are four test
    sites you mentioned. Where are they?

    JO: The Texas A&M
    AgriLife in Pecos TX – they are part of the General Atomics DARPA
    project also so they are well advanced in developing a site. Solix, the
    Durango, Colorado site. A new site that the University of Arizona is
    putting together near a coal-fired power plant in the Tucson area. Also,
    Sequim Labs – the sea bed lab of the Pacific Northwest National
    Laboratory. Plus, HR Biopetroleum is setting up a major site in Hawaii
    that we may be able to utilize in terms of how our work integrates with
    an actual large scale facility.

    Digest: Who will own the
    intellectual property that comes from the consortium’s work?

    JO:
    The consortium is not a legal entity – all of the technologies will be
    owned by the partner that invents them. We have an IP management
    agreement that says if you develop it, you own it, but grants a
    non-commercial license for each partner to exercise these technologies
    to do our work. In terms of commercial use, each member has a first look
    right at technologies, of 30-60 days, to determine whether to license
    from the organization that owns it. After that, the owner can shop the
    technologies elsewhere if they like. It’s a nice agreement, everyone
    has signed it — its a major contribution in how we play together.
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    Post  spiritwarrior Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:27 pm

    enemyofNWO wrote:Australian 60 Minutes program that was pulled by BP demand .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcvzkrPL9C4&feature=player_embedded

    saved. good video, he kept referring ta the smell, fumes and burning nostrils

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    Post  spiritwarrior Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:29 pm

    enemyofNWO wrote:Australian 60 Minutes program that was pulled by BP demand .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcvzkrPL9C4&feature=player_embedded

    found this interesting in that that particular ley line efded in the gulf of oman

    ta for posting
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    Post  spiritwarrior Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:40 pm

    signed friend ta
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    Post  spiritwarrior Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:42 pm

    mudra wrote:Something for Lawless to give some comments on ?



    Love from me
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    found this interesting in that that particular ley line efded in the
    gulf of oman

    ta for posting
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    Post  mudra Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:54 pm

    So sorry to hear you are ill Spiritwarrior .
    I am sending a love beam to you and wrapping you
    in my wings of light .
    May your health return soon to balance .

    An soothing video for you :



    Much love from me
    Hugging you dearly .

    Hugs

    mudra
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    Post  spiritwarrior Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:36 pm

    mudra wrote:So sorry to hear you are ill Spiritwarrior .
    I am sending a love beam to you and wrapping you
    in my wings of light .
    May your health return soon to balance .

    An soothing video for you :



    Much love from me
    Hugging you dearly .

    Hugs

    mudra

    you are truly an earth angel mundra, i hold you in high respect. thank youso much for yer prayers, hope to be back, stronger than ever.
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    Post  anomalous cowherd Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:04 am

    Everybody is great here, I am turning into a love curmudgeon. Much love to you spirit warrior and wishing complete healing for you.

    I don't know what I am sure of with this oil volcanoe, just that it feels like 911 revisited in terms of trauma alone.
    Buildings really fell , people DID die , rescue workers were treated with no regard and are dying slow deaths , war was one result... sound familiar? People being shown the images of the buildings in free fall to increase the horror and now the BP webcams people are glued to in a similar state of fear and powerlessness.

    So, even if this IS a fake, it's a fake with horrible consequences, we just may not know what they truly are, or will be . I am not saying there is no oil washing up on beaches, or that animals are not suffering, but how much oil, and what type is it?
    There are some glaring ANOMOLIES and thats a red rag to a cowherd like moi.. Maybe more of that later, still trying to find research I can say I believe is close to the mark. Something is very wrong with this picture beyond the obvious ghastliness. For now, I can say, I don't know, with some confidence Gulf Oil Platform Explosion and Spill - Page 27 Icon_wink . Gulf Oil Platform Explosion and Spill - Page 27 Icon_rabbit
    Again ,corexit is my main concern, and I think this is what is possibly causing the breathing problems . The good thing about this is it is something we CAN have a say in . I am praying/visualising people will wake up and say NO to this spraying, I mean, they do have the power to do that.
    We must stay of sound mind and remember these " people" are pretty evil tricksters.

    Did anyone really believe they could NOT shut off the flow at the start? I could never buy this. "They" are everything but stupid.

    I'm tempted to say be of good cheer but it's a tall order, ah well, I like 'em tall.

    Meanwhile they have been chemtrailing the daylights out of us here on the southeast coast of Britain. Nobody appears to notice.
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    Post  lawlessline Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:41 am

    anomalous cowherd wrote:Everybody is great here, I am turning into a love curmudgeon. Much love to you spirit warrior and wishing complete healing for you.


    We must stay of sound mind and remember these " people" are pretty evil tricksters.


    I'm tempted to say be of good cheer but it's a tall order, ah well, I like 'em tall.

    Meanwhile they have been chemtrailing the daylights out of us here on the southeast coast of Britain. Nobody appears to notice.

    AC
    I second, third and forth all that. I will be on the south coast soon. meeting????

    Here is a link to a little show I do on the BBC Solent.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/p008g3wq

    It is a little show and I cann't shout too loud, in case of scaring people. Go to 2hrs and 5 mins to hear my bit which I do once a month.


    SW,

    Please accept the healing from myself along with all here.

    Let love reign.

    t
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    Post  anomalous cowherd Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:50 am


    thanks lawless, I am in Hastings and let me know when you are going to be down this way.. Will listen to your thing in short while...
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