I'm now trying to look at all of this from the 'overview' perspective and here it is for what it's worth.
The Many Players in this GameI think it's worth noting that Fulford names quite a few different 'secret societies' in this interview with Wilcock. I doubt that any of them would like that too much. As a for instance from the interview:
BF: You’ve got to remember that there are several different competing groups.
You have essentially a similar thing in Asia as in the West. You have secret societies that are connected to ancient dynastic bloodlines.
In the West that would be the Rothschilds, the British royal families, the Freemasons and the P2 Lodge.
In Asia, it would be the Dragon Families, I would guess. This would be all the various dynastic families and clan groupings based on family ties.
But, in the West you had a different group. It is confusing, because there are several groups that call themselves Illuminati.
There is a group that has contacted me and they’ve proven to me they are connected to various agencies as well as international drug-smuggling rings.
They claim they started the French, American and Russian revolutions, and that they are opposed to bloodline rule.
[DW: I have already stated to Ben that this sounds like a rival faction of the same people trying to reinvent themselves. He said he is not joining them or supporting them – merely listening to what they have to say.]
In the same way, the Asians have a secret society that is also based on meritocracy. They are also opposed to bloodline rule........................
And then of course you have the CIA, FBI, etc etc etc on top of that.
And these groups obviously compete with each other for power, much of which is maintained through their secrecy, which Fulford has now threatened. There is also, he says, the belief that "Those who own the Gold should have the power" in this world. (No surprise there.) And he has revealed many of the games being played secretly by these societies to throw a spanner in the works re them achieving that. So I'm not at all surprised that he and Wilcock are being threatened, possibly by any connected to the above-mentioned sources.
Even if what Fulford claims is a total load of crap, I doubt that any of these groups would like seeing themselves revealed 'named and blamed' in this manner publically by either Fulford or Wilcock. Threats and spreading disinfo to ruin their reputations seem obvious methods of reprisal both of which we know are the usual methods used.
Others who have waded into the scrumOthers are proclaiming their 'knowledge' of these secrets more openly now on the Internet, both of those I've discovered I'm personally suspect of due to my own current 'belief structure'. (And, let's face it, that's all we really have to work with in the end. "A person's judgement is no better than their information".) I'll start with the one that's being quoted here as worthy of listening to.
O'Finioan vs WilcockO'Finioan has said, twice now, "two of the greatest threats to the human race right now are
the teachings of friendly E.T.s going to come and save everyone, and that of ascension. It’s total baloney, it’s giving people false hope, it is keeping people on their knees, and unwilling to stand up and fight for themselves." (Link:
http://duncanofinioan.wordpress.com/2011/12/11/re-rant-hoagland-wilcock-explanations-thereof/) Doesn't that ring any alarm bells in anyone else? Doesn't that smack of getting seekers of the Truth back into a 'us vs them' 3D view of life, negating the view that there can be positive ETs and that we can ascend to 4/5D? Isn't that often quoted as being just what the PTW want us to think to fill us with anger and fear?
(Mind you, as some would have realized, I'm also taking into account that a lot of what's picked up and taught via 'inner methods' could be being programmed into us in an occult manner, thanks to the technology the ETs have and have passed on to the CIA, etc. So I'm trying to be as discerning as possible re all of it, including what I 'receive' myself.)
And he appears to still be 'handled', admitting to being chastened by his "superior" re his rants at Fulford and Wilcock. I'm not putting him down or dismissing him for this as he (like the rest of us) is the product of his conditioning and clearly a 'warrior' at heart, and would be valuable to some 'secret' group
he's working for, if he is. He may know a lot of things I don't know but I can't accept his outright dismissal of a belief in Love and Light and Hope, etc. So I see his statements as being his point of view due to the part he is playing in the puzzle but it's not a view I'm in accord with and won't dismiss Wilcock on that basis, regardless of failings Wilcock may have in other areas, or this whole scenario as being a hoax.
I don't know enough about his claims re Fulford and the 'Mad Martian' to comment on that.
Rayelan, another 'player'I've since come across another who is wading into this debate here: (Link:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=224559). While this woman may have a lot of info and data also about the great gold swindle and the threats to Fulford and Wilcock, what her conditioning and beliefs are make me question her mindset as well, mainly because of her last statement...............
"BTW... the Scottish Irishman who was talking to David is the same Shamus who worked with me for over ten years and then married me off to Gunther. Shamus is a starship captain. He is Gunther's higher self and now that I have heard his again, I know where Gunther is these days! And I hope to hell those of you who know what he is capable of are shaking in your Texan boots! "
What the.....
There are also references to Knight Templar in links she posted in relation to her associates.
On a Personal NoteSo I'm just taking all of this in and taking into account that there are many who will probably try to do a great job of discrediting Fulford and Wilcock due to having vested interests and different belief systems indoctrinated into them, even here on the Mists. All of that is par for the course. As I've said elsewhere, I'm just trying to pay attention to the
information each of these players are giving out to assess the worth of listening to it and allowing for the fact that each of the players is human and fallible, just like me. I don't believe anyone I've come across as yet has ALL the answers, only parts as per our piece in the puzzle, which is why I'm trying to take an overview.
I'd also like to point out that from an astrological point of view, none of what's happened re Fulford and Wilcock is all that surprising to me as Uranus went direct on 10th December after being retrograde since early July last year. Plus we had that 'red' full moon eclipse in Gemini, which is all about communication.
Even at a more general, planetary level it's 'all in the charts' for us when you look at the outer planets.
Pluto (the planet that reveals and purges what's hidden, esp in terms of power-plays, to rid us of outdated ways) moved into Capricorn (authority figures, social order) back in 2008. So these revelations about what's really going on behind the scenes in the PTW was bound to happen and they've only just begun really. Pluto will be in Capricorn until 2023.
Uranus (the planet that shocks us into realizing our true individual potential through sudden, surprising revelations) moved into Aries (I Am, our public persona) in March last year. So it's been working on us unconsciously for years in Pisces and now it's influencing us to express it openly within our persona. It's encouraging us to express who WE are being shown we are by the Universe as an individual as opposed to who we've been told and conditioned to believe we are (as just one of the 'slaves'?).
Neptune (ideals, dreams and illusions) has been in Aquarius (individuals combining forces to work as a group to achieve their future dreams) since 1998. Neptune helps us become aware of and dissolves illusions so that we can focus on, grow into, and be inspired by the right ideals....create in accordance with them. To me Neptune in Aquarius epitomizes group consciousness working together in Light and Love, the highest of ideals, to create a better future for us all.
You also have Chiron in the middle of the mix, the planet (?) of healing which links our inner and outer worlds.
Anyway, enough from me I think. Sorry for the long rant.