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    The American (Not African) Origin Of AIDS

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    Post  mudra Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:05 pm

    Gay Vaccine Experiments And The American
    (Not African) Origin Of AIDS
    By Alan Cantwell, MD


    Ever since the AIDS epidemic became official in June 1981, there have been rumors that AIDS is a man-made disease. Although this theory has been discredited by "scientific consensus," there is evidence linking the outbreak of this new disease to a vaccine experiment conducted on gay men in New York City, as well as in other U.S. cities, between 1978 and 1981.

    The first epidemic cases of AIDS in America were uncovered exclusively in young, previously healthy, and mostly white gay men in Manhattan in 1979. The cause was unknown until 1984 when a virus, later named HIV (human immunodeficiency virus), was accepted as the infectious agent. How a sexually transmitted disease (STD), purportedly originating in Africa, was transferred into a so-called "gay disease" in New York City was left unexplained, except for preposterous stories like the gay Canadian airline steward Gaetan Dugas, who was demonized in the media and tabloids as "the man who brought AIDS to America."

    THE GAY VACCINE EXPERIMENTS BEFORE AIDS (1978-1981)

    Beginning in 1974, workers in a bloodmobile provided by the New York Blood Center in Manhattan began soliciting 8, 906 gay men for a hepatitis B vaccine research study (Koblin et al, 1992). Over the next few years more that 10,000 blood samples were donated by gays willing to participate in the development of a vaccine that might prevent hepatitis B. This viral disease was an STD disproportionately affecting sexually-active homosexuals.

    The AIDS epidemic in the U.S. directly traces back to this government-sponsored vaccine experiment! Eventually, 1,083 gay men were recruited to be injected with an experimental hepatitis B vaccine at the New York Blood Center. In the months before the actual experiment began, the vaccine underwent preliminary testing for safety and immune response on two hundred physicians at New York Medical Center, as well as on twenty-eight employees of Merck & Co, which made the vaccine.

    The first group of men in the actual trial were inoculated in November 1978. The experiment was confidential. Each man was given an anonymous identification number, which would be the only way they could be identified by the investigators. Each man got an initial dose of vaccine, then a repeat one month after, and a final inoculation six months later. All were asked to donate blood samples for two years after the three injections. Over a period of months, all 1,083 men would be injected. Half the men were given the experimental vaccine; the other half would serve as the control group and were given useless placebo injections. In this double-blind study, neither the men nor the investigators knew who was getting the vaccine or the placebo.

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    Post  HigherLove Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:42 pm

    Jawdrop
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    Post  sabina Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:09 pm

    we are like labore rats
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    Post  HigherLove Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:02 pm

    As a bit of an aside:

    Britain to lift ban on gay men donating blood


    LONDON — British health officials say they will lift the ban on gay men donating blood — as long as their last sexual contact with another man was more than one year ago.

    The U.K. health department said Thursday the change would be implemented in November after a new review found no evidence to support the ban.

    The decision reverses a policy first adopted in the 1980s when officials feared AIDS could be spread in the blood supply.

    Other countries including Australia, Japan, South Africa, Sweden and New Zealand also allow gay men to donate blood with similar conditions. In Canada and the U.S., however, gay men are still banned from donating blood.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44439157/ns/health/
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    Post  solent Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:41 am

    Yes, I learnt about this years ago, also that before the outbreak in africa, the World Health Organisation sponsored smallpox vaccine programs.

    I have spoken to many so called "non progressors" on forums, many of which were "diagnosed" hiv+ during the 1980's, they don't take the cocktails of drugs and are still alive and healthy, yet many if not all watched friends die from taking AZT. AZT was first developed as a chemotheropy, but was deemed too toxic, so never got patterned, but with the outbreak of Hiv+ & Aids it became the leading drug of choice.......... To this day AZT is still prescribed.

    House of Numbers is a very good documentary as is Hiv=Aids : Fact or Fraud

    It is MHO that AZT is the modern day cause of Aids.
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    Post  HigherLove Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:50 am

    Still in cue in the DVR, but this looks interesting -

    Ancient Aliens - The Series

    TONIGHT! Ancient Aliens, Season 3, Ep 7! "Aliens, Plagues and Epidemics" Scientists are continually challenged by unidentified strains of bacteria with mysterious origins. Could some of our most crippling plagues and epidemics be traced to the darkest voids of space, or perhaps even extraterrestrial intervention? THIS show will FREAK. YOU. OUT! Please tell EVERYONE to tune in! Oh, and don't watch this one alone... History Ch. Check YOUR local listings. This show IS on tonight, Thurs, Sept 8.
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    Post  HigherLove Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:27 pm

    I guess it should not have come to a surprise to me that the nurse I work with had a most negative reaction to this article. She has a Master's Degree in nursing, as well as additional training as an AIDS Certified Registered Nurse. She worked in the trenches in the Bay Area, starting in the early 80s (she retires, this month).


    Sorry dear but this is poppycock! The first cases were seen in Southern, CA not New York. They tested stored blood of folks who had died unexpectedly in 1969 and found HIV. I believe the chimps to human vector. Anyone who uses unsafe sex could be exposed to both HepB and HIV so saying that those guys were infected by the HepB vaccine is a misrepresentation. Sorry to rain on your parade but ther is always someone who need to make the Medical profession a loser uses all kind of broken thinking to come up with these theories. The proof offered here is not scientifically supported by the data.

    I did get her to admit that she did not read the article, completely. I think the "anti-vaccine" flavor threw her off (which if she would have read, she would have seen that he is not against regular vaccinations).

    Another rabbit hole.

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    Post  mudra Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:36 am


    Deconstructing The Myth Of AIDS (Gary Null)

    In 1984 we were told that HIV was the cause of AIDS. In his provocative documentary film, “Deconstructing the Myth of AIDS,” Gary Null, Ph.D., challenges virtually every statement ever made by the American medical industrial complex on the virus - including those of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the National Institute for Health (NIH) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). While presenting the findings of Nobel Prize-winning scientists and leading virologists, the film exposes the political maneuvering, conspiracies and cover-ups that have provided obstacles to the study of this human catastrophe from the start. While presenting the findings of Nobel Prize-winning scientists and leading virologists, the film exposes the political maneuvering, conspiracies and cover-ups that have provided obstacles to the study of this human catastrophe from the start. For example, there are experts who believe that AIDS is the result of multiple factors, including drug use, stress and nutritional deficiency, but that government agencies made a politically strategic decision to de-emphasize these hypotheses and thus discourage certain researchers and their funding. Meanwhile, AZT, an infamously failed treatment for cancer, and now the primary FDA-approved approach to treating AIDS, is highly toxic and can produce the very symptoms of the illness it is prescribed to treat. “Deconstructing the Myth of AIDS” goes beyond medicine and science to question the very foundation of our reliance on government bureaucracies where it concerns matters of life and death.«

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