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    Anti-government protests in Egypt

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    Post  mudra Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:01 am

    Webster Tarpley: CIA fuels 'mob rule' in Arab world to change power

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvI6JqiAZjs


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    Post  TRANCOSO Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:43 am

    (CNN) -- Saturday saw protests across the United States, held to express solidarity with the anti-government demonstrations currently roiling Egypt. Whether on the East Coast or the West Coast, crowds carried banners, flags and signs as they chanted, hoping their support could be felt thousands of miles away in Cairo, Alexandria and other Egyptian cities.
    So when are 'The People' of the US gonna hit the streets to demand the inprisonment of the Wall Street Thugs & their puppets in Congres & the White House?

    Seems more relevant to me than ever before.
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    Post  TRANCOSO Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:56 am

    Liberating the American People
    Saturday, January 29, 2011
    by Gilad Atzmon

    Burning rage ... protester stands on blazing Cairo streetIn his latest Newsweek article Stephen Kinzer wonders who America is betting on to counter the popular rising forces in the Middle East : “The same friends it has been betting on for decades” he answers. “Mubarak’s pharaonic regime in Egypt, Mahmoud Abbas and his Palestinian Authority, the Saudi monarchy, and increasingly radical politicians in Israel. It is no wonder that Iran’s power is rising as the American-imposed order begins to crumble,” he concludes.

    Kinzer explains America's stance succinctly and accurately : “The U.S. keeps Mubarak in power - it gave his regime $1.5 billion in aid last year -mainly because he supports America’s pro-Israel policies, especially by helping Israel maintain its stranglehold on Gaza. It supports Abbas for the same reason; Abbas is seen as willing to compromise with Israel and is, therefore, a desirable negotiating partner….. American support for Mubarak and Abbas continues, although neither man is in power with any figment of legality; Mubarak brazenly stage-manages elections, and Abbas has ruled by decree since his term of office expired in 2009.”

    In the light of Kinzer's statement, the following questions surely need answering - Why does America support those regimes, whose leaders' dictates, ideologies and methods of ruling are totally and openly incongruous with America’s alleged value system? And If America is genuinely concerned with the so-called ‘rise of Islam’, why then, did it eradicate Saddam Hussein’s distinctly secular regime? And if America is, as it claims, enthusiastic about encouraging 'non radicalised' secular Arabs, why is it constantly seeking conflict with Bashir Asad, leader of another secular stronghold? And If America does indeed champion democracy, why does it support the Saudi regime, Mubarak and Abbas? Why does it not seek friendship with the democratically elected Hamas?

    In short American policy seems to be a total mess - unless one is willing to openly admit that there is a clear coherent thread running through American foreign policy : it simply serves Israel’s interests.

    For decades American foreign policy has been dictated by Zionist forces within their administration. For decades, America has been exhausting its resources to chase the enemies of the Jewish state. It even sends its young boys and girls to fight and die in Zionist wars. The second Iraq War was obviously such a war. It is becoming clear that America’s decision makers have sacrificed the interests of the American people.

    We learned yesterday that the Jewish Lobby in America shamelessly slammed Republican Senator and Tea Party representative Rand Paul for suggesting that the “United States should halt all foreign aid including its financial aid to Israel”. Even the alleged ‘peace seeking’ J Street was quick to attack the patriotic senator. And clearly they didn’t mince their words : “Senator Paul’s proposal would undermine the decades-long bipartisan consensus on U.S. support for Israel. Any erosion of support should concern Israel’s friends on both sides of the political aisle, and we call in particular on leaders and donors in Senator Paul’s party to repudiate his comments and ensure that American leadership around the world is not threatened by this irresponsible proposal," the statement issued by J Street read.

    National Jewish Democratic Council (NJDC) President and CEO David Harris repeated the same line of thought saying that “Paul's suggestion is negligent, shortsighted, and just plain wrong…. Senator Paul's statement is yet another illustration of how the Republican Party continues to grow increasingly out of touch with the values of the vast majority of the American Jewish community."

    But NJDC's spokesman David Harris must have failed to grasp that the patriotic senator Paul is actually concerned with the interest of America, rather than the tribally orientated ‘values of the vast majority of the American Jews’, because Senator Rand Paul obviously points at a clear conflict between American interests and the foreign interests promoted by the Jewish lobby.

    In his Newsweek article, Kinzer astutely points out that America needs “new approaches and new partners. Listening more closely to Turkey, the closest U.S. ally in the Muslim Middle East, would be a good start. A wise second step would be a reversal of policy toward Iran, from confrontation to a genuine search for compromise.”

    But, It is clear beyond doubt here that America will not be able to integrate Kinzer's very reasonable suggestions into its foreign policy unless it first liberates itself from the grip of the Jewish Lobby. And It has been proven that it is not easy for our greed-driven politicians to emancipate themselves voluntarily from the Lobby. As we read above, the ‘liberal’ J Street group have called upon donors to cut off the very life supply of Senator Rand Paul. And The Jewish Lobby in America would do the same to every American politician who dared to break the links.

    However, in the wake of the current financial turmoil, I am convinced that more and more Americans are beginning to identify the root cause at the bottom of their flawed foreign policy. By the time this happens, America may well be liberated.

    SOURCE: http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/gilad-atzmon-liberating-the-american-people.html
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    Post  mudra Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:24 am

    Tribes Threaten to Attack Suez Canal if Mubarak Does Not Step Down
    January 29th, 2011


    http://www.worldthreats.com/?p=5659

    Bedouin tribesman have reportedly taken control of two towns in the Sinai Peninsula. These two towns are the closest to the Gaza Strip and right next to the border with Israel. There were reports yesterday that Bedouin tribes had besieged a police station in Suez and it appears that these riots have spread. This would effectively end the Mubarak dictatorship’s control of the region. There are no reports of the Egyptian military stepping in here.

    The more disturbing news is a threat that has been made by the tribes if Mubarak does not step down. According to one report coming from Time Magazine, they are willing to attack the Suez Canal if Mubarak does not leave. The Suez Canal currently is where a third of the world’s oil and six percent of all products passes through. A seizure of the Canal could spike oil prices beyond the current $90 level, perhaps over $110. This could come to pass despite the fact that Egypt is not a major oil producer.

    It has been speculated that the Egyptian army would not allow the Canal, perhaps Egypt’s most important economic element, to be attacked. However, there appears to be little to no protection and one report states that at least one ship has been attacked there. Others have reported fear of passing through due to the unrest.

    And a prominent Bedouin smuggler in the Sinai peninsula told TIME that Bedouin are now in control of the two towns closest to the Gaza Strip, and that they planned to press on to attack the Suez Canal if Mubarak does not step down. He also said that police stations in the south Sinai would be attacked if Bedouin prisoners were not released.

    If the Egyptian army was to attempt a defense of the Canal, they could likely succeed, even against heavily armed tribesmen. However, if the army is tied down in Alexandria and Cairo or have been ordered to stand down, then access to the Canal could be cut off as soon as tomorrow.

    If there is a credible threat to the Suez Canal or actual stoppage by force, the 1956 invasion comes to mind. When Egyptian dictator Gamel Nasser nationalized the Canal, the combined forces of Britain, France, and Israel took it by force. It is possible that the United States or European powers would consider to retain control of this important waterway.

    The White House or Downing Street have not commented on this breaking story. It is unknown if the Obama Administration has put in place a contingency plan in case of the seizure of the canal. The US military regularly travels through the waterway.

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    Post  mudra Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:29 am

    Elsewhere in the world ..

    Sudanese police clash with students in Khartoum


    KHARTOUM — Sudanese police beat and arrested students on Sunday as hundreds protested throughout the capital demanding the government resign, inspired by a popular uprising in neighbouring Egypt.

    Armed riot police broke up groups of young Sudanese demonstrating in central Khartoum and surrounded the entrances of four universities in the capital, firing teargas and beating students at three of them.

    Some 500 young people also protested in the city of el-Obeid in North Kordofan in the west of the country.

    Police beat students with batons as they chanted anti-government slogans such as "we are ready to die for Sudan" and "revolution, revolution until victory."

    Groups have emerged on social networking sites calling themselves "Youth for Change" and "The Spark," since the uprisings in nearby Tunisia and close ally Egypt this month.

    "Youth for Change" has attracted more than 15,000 members.

    "The people of Sudan will not remain silent any more," its Facebook page said. "It is about time we demand our rights and take what's ours in a peaceful demonstration that will not involve any acts of sabotage."

    read full article : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41334956/ns/world_news-africa/

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    Post  ClearWater Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:47 pm

    Egypt military steps up presence in chaotic Cairo
    By HAMZA HENDAWI and MAGGIE MICHAEL, AP

    CAIRO — Egypt's most prominent reform advocate called on Sunday for President Hosni Mubarak to resign after the powerful military stepped up its presence across the anarchic capital, closing roads with tanks and sending F-16 fighter jets streaking over downtown.

    The army's show of force appeared aimed at quelling looting, armed robbery and arson that broke out alongside pro-democracy protests and have turned the cultural heart of the Arab world into a tableau of once-unimaginable scenes of chaos.

    The military made no attempt to disperse some 5,000 protesters gathered at Tahrir Square, a plaza in the heart of downtown that protesters have occupied since Friday afternoon. They have violated the curfew to call for the ouster of President Hosni Mubarak's regime, which they blame for poverty, unemployment, widespread corruption and police brutality.

    Nobel Peace laureate Mohamed ElBaradei appeared in the square around 7 p.m.

    "You are the owners of this revolution. You are the future," he told the cheering crowd. "Our essential demand is the departure of the regime and the beginning of a new Egypt in which each Egyptian lives in virtue, freedom and dignity."

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    Post  ClearWater Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:51 pm

    Arabic broadcaster Al-Jazeera banned in Egypt
    By BRIAN MURPHY, AP

    DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — The pan-Arab broadcaster Al-Jazeera said Sunday that Egyptian authorities ordered the closure of its Cairo news hub overseeing coverage of the country's massive street protests. The station denounced the move as an attempt to "stifle and repress" open reporting.

    The Qatar-based network has given nearly round-the-clock coverage to the unprecedented uprising against Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and had faced criticism by some government supporters and other Arab leaders as a forum to inspire more unrest.

    Al-Jazeera's flagship Arabic channel has faced numerous bans and backlash across the Arab world, including bitter complaints this month from the Palestinian Authority over allegations that its reporting favored rival Hamas over leaked documents about peace talks with Israel. Al-Jazeera also broadcasts in English.

    But the ban by Egyptian officials comes amid one of the most pivotal Arab political showdowns in decades and a possible watershed moment for Arab networks expanding their presence on the web and social media. The blanket coverage offers another example of how border-spanning outlets such as Al-Jazeera and the worldwide reach of the Internet have destroyed the once-unchallenged control of media by governments.

    Al-Jazeera called the Egyptian ban "an act designed to stifle and repress the freedom of reporting by the network and its journalists."

    "In this time of deep turmoil and unrest in Egyptian society, it is imperative that voices from all sides be heard," said the statement from its headquarters in Qatar's capital Doha. "The closing of our bureau by the Egyptian government is aimed at censoring and silencing the voices of the Egyptian people."

    The network promised to continue its coverage, but it was unclear in what form. It said Al-Jazeera journalists would provide updates on Twitter. The network had previously posted clips from broadcasts on YouTube.

    Continued...http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_EGYPT_AL_JAZEERA?SITE=FLDAY&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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    Post  burgundia Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:25 pm

    http://www.worldthreats.com/?p=5659

    Bedouin tribesman have reportedly taken control of two towns in the Sinai Peninsula. These two towns are the closest to the Gaza Strip and right next to the border with Israel. There were reports yesterday that Bedouin tribes had besieged a police station in Suez and it appears that these riots have spread. This would effectively end the Mubarak dictatorship’s control of the region. There are no reports of the Egyptian military stepping in here.

    The more disturbing news is a threat that has been made by the tribes if Mubarak does not step down. According to one report coming from Time Magazine, they are willing to attack the Suez Canal if Mubarak does not leave. The Suez Canal currently is where a third of the world’s oil and six percent of all products passes through. A seizure of the Canal could spike oil prices beyond the current $90 level, perhaps over $110. This could come to pass despite the fact that Egypt is not a major oil producer.
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    Post  Reunite Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:10 pm

    Very powerful!

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    Post  TRANCOSO Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:15 pm

    THE PEOPLE - UNITED, CAN NEVER BE DEVIDED!

    DOWN WITH THE NWO!
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    Post  MargueriteBee Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:38 pm

    This goes to show you can only push people so far. If you have nothing to loose.....
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    Post  Carol Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:13 pm


    Evacuations begin in Egypt amid warnings

    * From: AFP
    * January 31, 2011 1:45PM

    COUNTRIES around the globe have warned against visiting Egypt and some began evacuating their citizens as bloody anti-government protests raged into a seventh day.

    The United States and Iraq said they were starting to organise evacuations of their nationals, while Turkey, India, Greece, Canada and Saudi Arabia either planned to or had already sent planes to begin taking out their citizens.

    Australia, Britain, France, China,, Argentina and Nordic countries warned their citizens not to travel to the country but had no plans yet for full-scale evacuations. The Australian Foreign Office upgraded its travel warning from "reconsider your need to travel" to "do not travel", counselling Australians against journeying to Egypt and advising those currently there to get out if possible.

    Prime Minister Julia Gillard said there were 870 Australians registered in Egypt but the real number was "likely to be in the thousands" and told anyone who could safely exit to strongly consider doing so.

    The United States plans to begin evacuating Americans today aboard government-arranged chartered planes.

    "US citizens in Egypt should consider leaving as soon as they can do so," US Assistant Secretary of State Janice Jacobs said yesterday.

    Athens, Istanbul and Nicosia have been identified as possible "safe havens".

    She did not know the number of Americans in Egypt.

    Iraq said it would lay on special flights to evacuate its citizens from Egypt and Turkey said it sent five planes to evacuate its approximately 750 citizens registered in the country.

    Saudi Arabia said it organised 33 flights between Saturday and Monday to take its nationals home.

    India sent a passenger plane to Cairo to evacuate Indian citizens, as did the small ex-Soviet republic of Azerbaijan, which said one of its embassy staff had been killed from a gunshot wound in the unrest.

    The Canadian government "is recommending that Canadians leave", Foreign Minister Lawrence Cannon said.

    Ottawa planned to charter planes to get Canadians to evacuation points in Europe, possibly beginning today.

    Britain was advising its nationals to leave flashpoint Egyptian cities, but tour operators stressed there was no need to pull tourists out of popular Red Sea resorts.

    [link to www.heraldsun.com.au]

    The British Foreign Office advised against all but essential travel to Cairo, Alexandria, Suez and Luxor.

    "We do want people to take the opportunity if they are able to leave... but as yet the situation has not reached the stage where we would necessarily be considering chartering planes and getting larger numbers out," Foreign Office minister Alistair Burt told the BBC.


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    Post  AscendingStarseed Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:21 am

    William Engdahl weighs in on the uprisings in the Middle East comparing them to the US and CIA influenced color revolutions, and how we're basically seeing the same thing happening again.
    In his opinion this is definitely an orchestrated event.

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    Post  AscendingStarseed Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:57 am

    This message went out last week to the Egyptian government by a group called "Anonymous", so is this also part of the US intervention? They use the V for Vendetta mask as a logo or symbol....



    Here's their message in text:

    Join Us:

    https://www.accessnow.org/proxy-cloud...

    http://anonnews.org

    http://anonops.ru

    DEAR CITIZENS OF THE WORLD,

    Anonymous can not, and will not stand idly while people are being denied their basic rights and human liberties. Yet, there are still a lot of governments worldwide who fail to even aspire to the standard of freedom that was set by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. These governments believe they have the right and privilege to impose upon their own people an 'official' version of 'reality' which isn't in any way tampered by the truths of everyday life under which its citizens are living. Anonymous believes this is an outright crime which can not go unpunished.

    The Egyptian people are living under inhumane conditions; being denied their basic rights to freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of association, and the free access to information. By imposing censorship upon its own people and condemning these freedoms, the Egyptian government has revealed itself to be criminal, and has made itself an enemy of Anonymous.

    To the Egyptian Government: Anonymous challenges all those who are involved in censorship. Anonymous wants you to offer free access to uncensored media in your entire country. When you ignore this message, not only will we attack your government websites, Anonymous will also make sure that the international media sees the horrid reality you impose upon your people. Anonymous will not spare anybody who supports this suppression. It is in the hands of the Egyptian government to end this: continue your repression and you will be subject to civil protest - lend an ear to the claim of freedom from your people and the hostilities will cease.


    To the Egyptian people: We stand together and united against this oppression. This struggle is not just for you alone, but for the whole of humankind. Citizens can no longer endure their governments abuse. When forced by the threat of oppression, we will be loud as hell - and when the people roar, it will send shivers down the spines of all those who stifle our freedom and take our precious liberties away.

    Anonymous are your brothers and sisters, your sons and daughters, your parents and your friends, regardless of age, gender, race, religion, ethnicity, or place of birth. Anonymous is you. You will not be denied your right to free speech, free press, free association and your universal right to freely access information, both in real life and through the internet.

    Join us on the IRC - irc.anonops.ru #opEgypt !

    Join us in this battle for freedom of information worldwide!

    For as Khalil Gibran once said: "Life without Freedom is like a body without a soul, and Freedom without Thought is like a confused spirit... Life, Freedom and Thought are three-in-one, and are everlasting and shall never pass away."

    We are Anonymous.
    We are Legion.
    We do not forgive.
    We do not forget.
    Expect us.

    Anonymous info courtesy of the Randi Rhodes show www.randirhodes.com


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    Post  eMonkey Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:53 am

    AscendingStarseed wrote:

    We are Anonymous.
    We are Legion.
    We do not forgive.
    We do not forget.
    Expect us.


    Urgh, this is not my kind of group. I wont be joining Anonymous.
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    Post  enemyofNWO Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:30 am

    In my travel on the Internet , I found this gem :"THOSE WHO MAKE PEACEFUL REVOLUTION IMPOSSIBLE , MAKE VIOLENT REVOLUTION INEVITABLE . " attributed to -JFK
    Many countries today use extensively the secret services to manipulate , control , tag , frighten , intimidate and stalk the population . The PTB keep a log of every person's phone calls for 5 years (that's the law in the EU ) . A file is kept on every citizen not only the criminals . Egypt and other ME countries are run by dictators who take orders from Washington , those dictators make extensive use of the secret services to control , even with torture dissidents . In the EU we are not too far away from a police state , we have moles from the secret services almost in every street and taxi rank . The newspapers spit out propaganda every day and politicians are mostly corrupt and controlled . So going back to the above quote , a peaceful revolution is impossible to achieve because everything is rigged from the politics , the parties , the police force , the judiciary , the history books , the science books , everything in this reality is rigged to force us to go to the bowser to fill up the car with petrol and be indoctrinated in state school with half truth and lies . People are losing their jobs in droves and don't want globalization and immigration but the PTB continue with the same policies that don't work . The only option left to the masses is a violent revolution .
    We will see when the system collapses what will happen . It won't be long now .
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    Post  mudra Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:38 am

    Travel Warning
    U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE

    Bureau of Consular Affairs


    Egypt

    January 30, 2011


    http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_egypt.html

    The U.S. Department of State recommends that U.S. citizens avoid travel to Egypt due to ongoing political and social unrest. On January 30, the Department of State authorized the voluntary departure of dependents and non-emergency employees. Violent demonstrations have occurred in several areas of Cairo, Alexandria and other parts of the country, disrupting road travel between city centers and airports. Disruptions in communications, including internet service, may occur. The Government of Egypt has imposed a curfew from 4:00 p.m. to 8:00 a.m. in Cairo, Alexandria and Suez until further notice, and U.S. citizens should obey curfew orders and remain indoors during curfew hours. U.S. citizens currently in Egypt should consider leaving as soon as they can safely do so. Cairo airport is open and operating, but flights may be disrupted and transport to the airport may be disrupted due to the protests. Travelers should remain in contact with their airlines or tour operators concerning flight schedules, and arrange to arrive at the airport well before curfew hours.

    In the event of demonstrations, U.S. citizens in Egypt should remain in their residences or hotels until the situation stabilizes. Security forces may block off the area around the U.S. Embassy during demonstrations, and U.S. citizens should not attempt to come to the U.S. Embassy or the Tahrir Square area at such times. The U. S. Embassy is open for emergency services for U.S. citizens only until further notice. As always, any change to Embassy hours will be posted on the Embassy website. U.S. citizens in Egypt who require assistance, or those who are concerned that their U.S. citizen loved one in Egypt may require assistance, should contact the U.S. Department of State and the U.S. Embassy in Cairo at EgyptEmergencyUSC@state.gov, or at 1-202-501-4444. Please follow the directions on the Embassy website for all other consular inquiries.

    Demonstrations have degenerated on several occasions into violent clashes between police and protesters, resulting in injuries and extensive property damage. While demonstrations have not been directed toward Westerners, U.S. citizens are urged to remain alert to local security developments and to be vigilant regarding their personal security. The U.S. Department of State strongly urges U.S. citizens to avoid all demonstrations, as even peaceful ones can quickly become unruly and a foreigner could become a target of harassment or worse. If caught unexpectedly near a demonstration, U.S. citizens should obey instructions from police and leave the area as quickly as possible. U.S. citizens resident in Egypt should monitor local news broadcasts and U.S. citizen visitors should ask tour guides and hotel officials about any planned demonstrations in the locations they plan to visit. U.S. citizens should carry identification and a cell phone which works in Egypt.

    U.S. citizens in Egypt are encouraged to enroll in the Smart Travelers Enrollment Program (STEP) at the following website: https://travelregistration.state.gov. U.S. citizens without internet access may enroll directly at the U.S. Embassy. By enrolling, U.S. citizens make it easier for the Embassy to contact them in case of emergency.

    Updated information on travel and security in Egypt may be obtained from the Department of State by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll-free in the United States and Canada or, for callers outside the United States and Canada, on a regular toll line at 1-202-501-4444. For further information, please consult the Country Specific Information for Egypt, as well as the Worldwide Caution.


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    Post  eMonkey Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:39 am

    enemyofNWO wrote:In my travel on the Internet , I found this gem :"THOSE WHO MAKE PEACEFUL REVOLUTION IMPOSSIBLE , MAKE VIOLENT REVOLUTION INEVITABLE . " attributed to -JFK
    Many countries today use extensively the secret services to manipulate , control , tag , frighten , intimidate and stalk the population . The PTB keep a log of every person's phone calls for 5 years (that's the law in the EU ) . A file is kept on every citizen not only the criminals . Egypt and other ME countries are run by dictators who take orders from Washington , those dictators make extensive use of the secret services to control , even with torture dissidents . In the EU we are not too far away from a police state , we have moles from the secret services almost in every street and taxi rank . The newspapers spit out propaganda every day and politicians are mostly corrupt and controlled . So going back to the above quote , a peaceful revolution is impossible to achieve because everything is rigged from the politics , the parties , the police force , the judiciary , the history books , the science books , everything in this reality is rigged to force us to go to the bowser to fill up the car with petrol and be indoctrinated in state school with half truth and lies . People are losing their jobs in droves and don't want globalization and immigration but the PTB continue with the same policies that don't work . The only option left to the masses is a violent revolution .
    We will see when the system collapses what will happen . It won't be long now .

    Yes, true, but did they even try?

    Seems to me, they just jumped on the bandwagon and bypassed peaceful means and went directly to violence.

    Aside from a few groups here and there with the few demonstrations around the globe, the masses do not join the peaceful groups first - do they? They don't just spontaneaously swell in numbers and co-ordinate peaceful measures. Where are they? Look at sleepy US. Most just are asleep and only get a wakeup call when there is an angry mob about to rock their world and take everything they have. OR the criminal banksters and government are shafting them big time.

    I would like to see those peaceful measures first before considering to join Anonymous.. And only then, as a last resort, like you say. But not until then. We have a long way to go before we see the level of peaceful demonstrations along the lines that Gandhi had organised - and won.

    If Anonymous gets the job done quicker, then that is great that the blood-suckers are gone, but what does that say about us as a species? I hear what you say and understand your logic 'eNWO'however, personally, it does not sit well with me.
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    Post  enemyofNWO Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:57 am

    Greetings Emonkey

    You said "Yes, true, but did they even try? " . It's a good point , however most time is impossible . Think for a moment about the "Tea Party " in the US politics . My view of the Tea Party is that it was a beautiful idea hijacked by the PTB and reduced to nothing . The other example is the Palestinians and the negotiations with the Israeli Apartheid state over 60 years of fake negotiations . For negotiations it takes two parties with good will . With the N.W.O. you can try to negotiate at infinitum but it is just like trying to take a bone out of the mouth of a wolf.
    In Egypt , Tunisia and Algeria , people have been arrested , sent to prison and tortured for just demonstrating . So negotiation is to be excluded .
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    Post  mudra Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:12 am

    Are We Witnessing the Start of a Global Revolution?
    by Andrew Gavin Marshall
    Global Research, January 27, 2011


    For the first time in human history almost all of humanity is politically activated, politically conscious and politically interactive... The resulting global political activism is generating a surge in the quest for personal dignity, cultural respect and economic opportunity in a world painfully scarred by memories of centuries-long alien colonial or imperial domination... The worldwide yearning for human dignity is the central challenge inherent in the phenomenon of global political awakening... That awakening is socially massive and politically radicalizing... The nearly universal access to radio, television and increasingly the Internet is creating a community of shared perceptions and envy that can be galvanized and channeled by demagogic political or religious passions. These energies transcend sovereign borders and pose a challenge both to existing states as well as to the existing global hierarchy, on top of which America still perches...

    The youth of the Third World are particularly restless and resentful. The demographic revolution they embody is thus a political time-bomb, as well... Their potential revolutionary spearhead is likely to emerge from among the scores of millions of students concentrated in the often intellectually dubious "tertiary level" educational institutions of developing countries. Depending on the definition of the tertiary educational level, there are currently worldwide between 80 and 130 million "college" students. Typically originating from the socially insecure lower middle class and inflamed by a sense of social outrage, these millions of students are revolutionaries-in-waiting, already semi-mobilized in large congregations, connected by the Internet and pre-positioned for a replay on a larger scale of what transpired years earlier in Mexico City or in Tiananmen Square. Their physical energy and emotional frustration is just waiting to be triggered by a cause, or a faith, or a hatred...

    [The] major world powers, new and old, also face a novel reality: while the lethality of their military might is greater than ever, their capacity to impose control over the politically awakened masses of the world is at a historic low. To put it bluntly: in earlier times, it was easier to control one million people than to physically kill one million people; today, it is infinitely easier to kill one million people than to control one million people.[1]

    - Zbigniew Brzezinski
    Former U.S. National Security Advisor
    Co-Founder of the Trilateral Commission
    Member, Board of Trustees, Center for Strategic and International Studies


    An uprising in Tunisia led to the overthrow of the country’s 23-year long dictatorship of President Ben Ali. A new ‘transitional’ government was formed, but the protests continued demanding a totally new government without the relics of the previous tyranny. Protests in Algeria have continued for weeks, as rage mounts against rising food prices, corruption and state oppression. Protests in Jordan forced the King to call on the military to surround cities with tanks and set up checkpoints. Tens of thousands of protesters marched on Cairo demanding an end to the 30-year dictatorship of Hosni Mubarak. Thousands of activists, opposition leaders and students rallied in the capitol of Yemen against the corrupt dictatorship of President Saleh, in power since 1978. Saleh has been, with U.S. military assistance, attempting to crush a rebel movement in the north and a massive secessionist movement growing in the south, called the “Southern Movement.” Protests in Bolivia against rising food prices forced the populist government of Evo Morales to backtrack on plans to cut subsidies. Chile erupted in protests as demonstrators railed against rising fuel prices. Anti-government demonstrations broke out in Albania, resulting in the deaths of several protesters.

    It seems as if the world is entering the beginnings of a new revolutionary era: the era of the ‘Global Political Awakening.’ While this ‘awakening’ is materializing in different regions, different nations and under different circumstances, it is being largely influenced by global conditions. The global domination by the major Western powers, principally the United States, over the past 65 years, and more broadly, centuries, is reaching a turning point. The people of the world are restless, resentful, and enraged. Change, it seems, is in the air. As the above quotes from Brzezinski indicate, this development on the world scene is the most radical and potentially dangerous threat to global power structures and empire. It is not a threat simply to the nations in which the protests arise or seek change, but perhaps to a greater degree, it is a threat to the imperial Western powers, international institutions, multinational corporations and banks that prop up, arm, support and profit from these oppressive regimes around the world. Thus, America and the West are faced with a monumental strategic challenge: what can be done to stem the Global Political Awakening? Zbigniew Brzezinski is one of the chief architects of American foreign policy, and arguably one of the intellectual pioneers of the system of globalization. Thus, his warnings about the 'Global Political Awakening' are directly in reference to its nature as a threat to the prevailing global hierarchy. As such, we must view the 'Awakening' as the greatest hope for humanity. Certainly, there will be mainy failures, problems, and regressions; but the 'Awakening' has begun, it is underway, and it cannot be so easily co-opted or controlled as many might assume.

    The reflex action of the imperial powers is to further arm and support the oppressive regimes, as well as the potential to organize a destabilization through covert operations or open warfare (as is being done in Yemen). The alterantive is to undertake a strategy of "democratization" in which Western NGOs, aid agencies and civil society organizations establish strong contacts and relationships with the domestic civil society in these regions and nations. The objective of this strategy is to organize, fund and help direct the domestic civil society to produce a democratic system made in the image of the West, and thus maintain continuity in the international hierarchy. Essentially, the project of "democratization" implies creating the outward visible constructs of a democratic state (multi-party elections, active civil society, "independent" media, etc) and yet maintain continuity in subservience to the World Bank, IMF, multinational corporations and Western powers.

    It appears that both of these strategies are being simultaneously imposed in the Arab world: enforcing and supporting state oppression and building ties with civil society organizations. The problem for the West, however, is that they have not had the ability to yet establish strong and dependent ties with civil society groups in much of the region, as ironically, the oppressive regimes they propped up were and are unsurprisingly resistant to such measures. In this sense, we must not cast aside these protests and uprisings as being instigated by the West, but rather that they emerged organically, and the West is subsequently attempting to co-opt and control the emerging movements.

    Part 1 of this essay focuses on the emergence of these protest movements and uprisings, placing it in the context of the Global Political Awakening. Part 2 will examine the West's strategy of "democratic imperialism" as a method of co-opting the 'Awakening' and installing "friendly" governments.

    read on : http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=22963

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    Post  burgundia Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:36 am

    I've heard that to prevent protestors from other regions from coming to Cairo, the Egyptian government has forbidden the trains from running...
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    Post  Carol Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:34 am

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    We need more men and women like Mahatma Gandhi leading the people


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    Post  TRANCOSO Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:19 am

    In general people pay far more attention to a friendly word AND a gun than to just a friendly word.

    But than again, when you want to force TPTB to a dialogue, you've gotta hit them where it really hurts - in their wallet.

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    Post  Mercuriel Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:39 pm

    We are Legion.

    Stay FAR AWAY from these Ones or Their Idealogy...

    They preach War in reverse...

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    Defend and You get a Fighter...

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    Post  Carol Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:57 pm

    When someone announces that "We are Legion" by initial response is "ACK, run away, run away!"


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