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The Book of Thoth was a true revelation for me. I learned that all religions are one religion, all the esoteric theosophies have identical teachings but different symbology and nomenclature.
I discovered that the terminology was interchangeable between all doctrines. So the abyss on the tree of life is advaita in yoga.
After reading Crowley's missive twice, I understood maybe half. I then found Lon Milo DuQuette's 'Understanding Aleister Crowley's Thoth Tarot' and the scales fell from my eyes.
Here is my ultimate summary of the book, the journey of the fool mapped by the dragon.
And directly from the book of thoth:
After much study I have to disagree with Crowley's switching of the star and the emperor. His change came after a vision - but makes no sense in the grand scheme of things.
I no longer involve myself in divination. I dont think Crowley took it too seriously either, the major arcana represent the esoteric teachings.
However as long as one is consistent in interpretation, then anything will suffice for divinatory purposes, and the tarot does offer a multitude of useful labels.
The following is taken entirely from the book of thoth, all the info is Crowley's. the design is my visualization.
And my favourite part of the book was finding Crowley's wonderful equation 0=2 Such a profound realization. Rather puts everything into context and perspective.
Crowley's cards are all I have these days, I cut the borders off one deck.. the labels are too limiting
I discovered that the terminology was interchangeable between all doctrines. So the abyss on the tree of life is advaita in yoga.
After reading Crowley's missive twice, I understood maybe half. I then found Lon Milo DuQuette's 'Understanding Aleister Crowley's Thoth Tarot' and the scales fell from my eyes.
Here is my ultimate summary of the book, the journey of the fool mapped by the dragon.
And directly from the book of thoth:
After much study I have to disagree with Crowley's switching of the star and the emperor. His change came after a vision - but makes no sense in the grand scheme of things.
I no longer involve myself in divination. I dont think Crowley took it too seriously either, the major arcana represent the esoteric teachings.
However as long as one is consistent in interpretation, then anything will suffice for divinatory purposes, and the tarot does offer a multitude of useful labels.
The following is taken entirely from the book of thoth, all the info is Crowley's. the design is my visualization.
And my favourite part of the book was finding Crowley's wonderful equation 0=2 Such a profound realization. Rather puts everything into context and perspective.
Crowley's cards are all I have these days, I cut the borders off one deck.. the labels are too limiting
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The ouroboros or uroboros (/ˌ(j)ʊərəˈbɒrəs/, also UK: /uːˈrɒbərɒs/, US: /-oʊs/) is an ancient symbol depicting a serpent or dragon eating its own tail. The uroboros is a dramatic symbol for the integration and assimilation of the opposite, i.e., of the shadow...it is said of the uroboros that he slays himself and brings himself to life, fertilizes himself and gives birth to himself.”
https://mu6.com/uroboros.html
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What is life?
It is the flash of a firefly in the night, the breath of a buffalo in the wintertime. It is the little shadow which runs across the grass and loses itself in the sunset.
With deepest respect ~ Aloha & Mahalo, Carol
Ashera- Posts : 4201
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Unfortunately I again had not internet for a while but organized an own access only today. I inter alia used the time to finish my "Radical Völuspá":
Some of the stanzes fit well to what was discussed above. I quote them here in my transduction:
50.
Hrym, the gentle giant, rises his shield in the East
Jórmungandr, the Midgard Serpent, squirms in rage
Attacked by the "great worm"21 22
Who whips the waves
Taken by the giants' frenzy
A yellow-grey eagle pecks the dead
The deathship Naglfari is set free
....
55.
The belt of the earth opens
The world circle breaks
The ends wide open
High in the air
Frightening
Like worm‘s yaws
Ragnarök is near
Vidar‘s family is dead
56.
...The belt of the earth
Gapes to the heavens
Veor and Vega
Men flee their homes
Fjörgyn is in rearguard battle
Retreating from the worm
With no fear or loss of honor
21 This „great worm“ is not the Midgard Serpent but the „Spöke“, later often associated with the
Leviathan (the Atlantic Fleet of Germanicus 16AD that sunk in the North Sea – were völvas
involved?). The word „spöke“ is related to „spook“ and „Spuk“. A „spökenkieker“ is someone
who can envision the „spöke“ and other „monsters“ that could show up.
22 Not all "serpents" are evil: Dragon, Fáfnir, Mighty Monster, Adder, Nídhöggr, Lindworm, SheAdder, Góinn, Móinn, Grafvitnir, Grábakr, Ófnir, Sváfnir, Hooded One. „Lindworm“ was a code for Roman Legion; the symbol of the Roman Arny was the dragon
Some of the stanzes fit well to what was discussed above. I quote them here in my transduction:
50.
Hrym, the gentle giant, rises his shield in the East
Jórmungandr, the Midgard Serpent, squirms in rage
Attacked by the "great worm"21 22
Who whips the waves
Taken by the giants' frenzy
A yellow-grey eagle pecks the dead
The deathship Naglfari is set free
....
55.
The belt of the earth opens
The world circle breaks
The ends wide open
High in the air
Frightening
Like worm‘s yaws
Ragnarök is near
Vidar‘s family is dead
56.
...The belt of the earth
Gapes to the heavens
Veor and Vega
Men flee their homes
Fjörgyn is in rearguard battle
Retreating from the worm
With no fear or loss of honor
21 This „great worm“ is not the Midgard Serpent but the „Spöke“, later often associated with the
Leviathan (the Atlantic Fleet of Germanicus 16AD that sunk in the North Sea – were völvas
involved?). The word „spöke“ is related to „spook“ and „Spuk“. A „spökenkieker“ is someone
who can envision the „spöke“ and other „monsters“ that could show up.
22 Not all "serpents" are evil: Dragon, Fáfnir, Mighty Monster, Adder, Nídhöggr, Lindworm, SheAdder, Góinn, Móinn, Grafvitnir, Grábakr, Ófnir, Sváfnir, Hooded One. „Lindworm“ was a code for Roman Legion; the symbol of the Roman Arny was the dragon
Ashera- Posts : 4201
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The Order of the Silver Star (my combat bag)
My bed
Me so far
My bed
Me so far
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All this ignorant social bollocks is hardly to digest that ignores my soul for the sake of moral resentments and base motives!
It is a belief in Santa Claus that he brings Rabea back in his sack!
What are friends? Parasites?
I did not cause any mess nor any trouble! I simply tried to survive and this is my right! That the focus of my identity concentrated to be Alienne this time must not wonder you retards!
You do not have the right to demand anything! You left me in the lurch over ten years and now want to harvest the fuits! Piss off!
It is a belief in Santa Claus that he brings Rabea back in his sack!
What are friends? Parasites?
I did not cause any mess nor any trouble! I simply tried to survive and this is my right! That the focus of my identity concentrated to be Alienne this time must not wonder you retards!
You do not have the right to demand anything! You left me in the lurch over ten years and now want to harvest the fuits! Piss off!
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Die Sonne
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Freya, with the horn of Heimdal
Only because someone does not get how I proceeded does not mean that I must repeat it in their context! Not to mention the impossibility of their idea here.
Here lived the three maidens
Forethought, Thought
And Afterthought
Three in their dwelling
Under the tree
One is called Urt
The other Verdandi
Runes they read to see
The third is Skuld
Response and Presponse
Added logos to the psyche
They considered on the lives
Of the children of time
Destined their fates
(Radical Völuspá, Alienne Laval, August 2020)
Only because someone does not get how I proceeded does not mean that I must repeat it in their context! Not to mention the impossibility of their idea here.
Here lived the three maidens
Forethought, Thought
And Afterthought
Three in their dwelling
Under the tree
One is called Urt
The other Verdandi
Runes they read to see
The third is Skuld
Response and Presponse
Added logos to the psyche
They considered on the lives
Of the children of time
Destined their fates
(Radical Völuspá, Alienne Laval, August 2020)
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Conchita Wurst - The Second Coming of Citizen Kane
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Ashera wrote:
So many decks copy Waite, when he was responsible for so much subversion of the Tarot. Blinds and mis-leads. Waite was a misogynist - always looking to denigrate the female principle.
Kings are not passive! They do not sit. The king of wands is fire of fire.. so much energy..
One reason I can only use Crowley's cards these days, though seldomly.
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How should Adam represent the female principle? Brothers, up towards the sun, freedom... to the light?
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It is somewhat unfortunate, one level, to use the words male and female to represent basic universal energies. These words are also used in our societies to describe men and women, masculine and feminine. The universal energies do not recognize gender, they do not refer to men and women.
Just as 'male' energy is not a 'man', 'female' energy is not a woman.
Perhaps better words / labels are needed. Ying and Yang are not separate, the chinese say 'yingyang'. there is no separation of the two components, just two opposite energies in constant motion and balance, dancing around each other.
So as a universal energy the female principle is entirely passive. Something with only female energy is stagnant, it does not move. It may be full of potential, but a spark is needed, ego is needed, to move that energy, to manifest the idea.
Tarot uses water to represent the female principle. Queens can sit on Thrones.
Just as 'male' energy is not a 'man', 'female' energy is not a woman.
Perhaps better words / labels are needed. Ying and Yang are not separate, the chinese say 'yingyang'. there is no separation of the two components, just two opposite energies in constant motion and balance, dancing around each other.
So as a universal energy the female principle is entirely passive. Something with only female energy is stagnant, it does not move. It may be full of potential, but a spark is needed, ego is needed, to move that energy, to manifest the idea.
Tarot uses water to represent the female principle. Queens can sit on Thrones.
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I rather value your statement as private opinion, as a sentence of belief. I do not depart from Indian ideas but from Quranic ones, and am rather concerned with the created than with a theorized creation. In any case the primordial energy and ultimate power of the universe (vel) is also in India thought as female, namely the Shakti.
The popular idea of power is naive and I do not see why it, even if - or just because - it is democratically, should dominate the discourse universe. Their social control and hinderance kink is truly sick. No one can rule this way, and if they know it better they shall do it themselves. After me the flood!
The popular idea of power is naive and I do not see why it, even if - or just because - it is democratically, should dominate the discourse universe. Their social control and hinderance kink is truly sick. No one can rule this way, and if they know it better they shall do it themselves. After me the flood!
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The Queen of Disks is most welcome, I should have her as my poster girl as I look to create an oasis in the desert.
Agreed.
But what is Shakti without Shiva? Balance is the key.
Agreed.
But what is Shakti without Shiva? Balance is the key.
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Concerning living systems symmetry is not the key, and I truly hate it to look into this flatworm gullet called mandala. Life is based on asymmetries, and exactly this distinguishes it from dead matter - even a supersymmetry is factually an asymmetry.
I am not a proponent of all those Adamite gender ideas.
I am not a proponent of all those Adamite gender ideas.
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the Chinese describe yin as 2/5ths and yang as 3/5ths, and although they are not equal in size (the ratio is 1: 1.5) they are in perfect balance..
if they are the same they stagnate. So no symmetry.
I agree with the gender comments, we need better words. It has nothing to do with gender.
These basic energies are but a blunt tool. But also they are the tips of information icebergs, with massive depth. I found them useful at one time in my life.. not so much now.
if they are the same they stagnate. So no symmetry.
I agree with the gender comments, we need better words. It has nothing to do with gender.
These basic energies are but a blunt tool. But also they are the tips of information icebergs, with massive depth. I found them useful at one time in my life.. not so much now.
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I use what we call the "Gorean Knot", "satr" in Arabic, also known as Borromean Rings nowadays. And this fits very well to YHVH (the second Hee is the daughter, the eternal maiden, not the mother) and to Sura 36:36 where of two sexes and the "factor unknown" is spoken. And in Quranic logic this factor only can be female.
The non-entanglement-entanglement-order.
Christiandom, and especially Lutherism, tended to eliminate this "tertium datur". Women unable or not willig to conception were partly merciless hunted as witches; this also meant the völvas especially. The only way out often was the nunnery.
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Matrix Revelations
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Lahabi Lahib - Flame of Allah
My sisters hardly had a chance to get through with their knowledge in their social environments, so they taught me online almost all they knew of the true Quran that I accepted in 2012 officially after doing Islamic Science since university.
La ilaha illallah!
Ashera has no animus, Allah occupies this place.
My sisters hardly had a chance to get through with their knowledge in their social environments, so they taught me online almost all they knew of the true Quran that I accepted in 2012 officially after doing Islamic Science since university.
La ilaha illallah!
Ashera has no animus, Allah occupies this place.
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"...water was the matrix of the world and of all its creatures. And
this became the matrix of man; in it God created man
in order to give His Spirit a dwelling place in flesh.
The matrix is invisible and no one can see its primal
substance; for who can see that which was before him?
All of us come from the matrix, but no one has ever seen
It because it existed before man. And even though man
comes from it, and men are born from it again and again,
no one has seen it. The world was born from the matrix..."
- Paracelsus, Selected Writings
I think in totally different dimensions... Source History of Consciousness... even if it covers millions of years historically the approach is anthropologic and psychiatric
this became the matrix of man; in it God created man
in order to give His Spirit a dwelling place in flesh.
The matrix is invisible and no one can see its primal
substance; for who can see that which was before him?
All of us come from the matrix, but no one has ever seen
It because it existed before man. And even though man
comes from it, and men are born from it again and again,
no one has seen it. The world was born from the matrix..."
- Paracelsus, Selected Writings
I think in totally different dimensions... Source History of Consciousness... even if it covers millions of years historically the approach is anthropologic and psychiatric
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What should I explain to this flathead fellow who called me stinkhorn? He obviously is a Low Caste.
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The sim server of Middle Earth (Mediterra) was called Box of Pandora... So 15.000BC the Gibraltar dam broke, known as Altar of Geb... Sethos Typhon had hit the earth where today the Gulf of Mexico is...
MU = cp. "Mulde", "Senke", syncline, hollow, corrie, "mould"
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