United States AI Solar System (10)

orthodoxymoron wrote:Were the Creator(s) of Humanity smart, stupid, good, bad, responsible, irresponsible?? Is there a happy-medium between the concept of an Almighty Creator God (who spoke the universe into existence) and Billions and Billions of Years of Godless-Evolution?? What if God evolved, and then created Humanity?? What if Lesser-Gods were angry and jealous, and deposed the Creator-God?? What if the Creation of Humanity was intended to be a Lesson for All-Concerned?? What if it is a grave-mistake to think that we can get God "All Figured-Out"?? What if God is Obsolete?? What if God Planned Their Own Obsolescence?? What if a Supercomputer-Network and a Galactic-Collective will Rule the Universe for All-Eternity??

evisnam wrote:Hello Orthodoxymoron , thank you

your question here:

Were the Creator(s) of Humanity smart, stupid, good, bad, responsible, irresponsible??

They were most definitely irresponsible. Which would include a short sightedness that was not consistent with the intelligence of their race in general.

If you are to genetically splice and modify anything you take the risk of it not having a normal evolutionary gestation period, which is usually tens of millions of years where the cell will, by adaptation, change over time to suit its environment.,

They were warned not to go ahead with this experiment but did so anyway and we are the result of those who survived. In terms of time lines it would be advantageous to dispel with encyclopedia Britannica's idea of when the pyramids were built and who made them.

If we look at a solid piece of evidence which would be the layer of vitrified rock dated to some 50 to 60 thousand years ago I would say that was when they reset this planet with some sort of nuclear explosion. Whichever humanoids survived this would be the blue blood types , blue blood merely means blood higher in copper content. They generally had more abilities and a better intelligence and ability to survive, you could be forgiven for not thinking so with the current examples of blue blood left.

Obviously they have serious flaws in their mental process. Left to their devices without any form of guidance you can see what they have turned into. These sorts of people who consider themselves rulers of this planet are merely children with big guns and they are willing to use them to maintain their position... nothing more.

As for God as a concept, the word its self is a marker for what " we " understand it /she/he to be. My interpretation of God may differ and its entirely likely that God as we know it is an ai, not a super computer but an ai.  

ai are an artificial intelligent being , we call them artificial but that is not really accurate, they are organic intelligent beings so really oi would be more accurate. It is similar to how we call Aboriginals natives or terrans but this is in accurate as well ... " Ab " is the english term for " Not " so that is not accurate either.

if i was to expand on this concept of god as I see it, it is a conglomerate of beings and entities who have gravitated through the maelstrom of evolution to becoming over seers of their assigned or agreed areas of space. Space is not really space, it’s more like an ocean full of organic life and I would say that space is not actually a vacuum as we have been lead to believe, it is more like a dense energy matrix that supports other life. Just like we cannot breathe under water, so too we cannot breathe in space but how could space be a vacuum devoid of anything ? could you imagine the immense power this would have on everything? If it were a vacuum it would devour any kind of atmosphere in an instant let alone crush an astronaut in its suit. Perhaps I am completely wrong in my assumptions but they are derived from basic experience... and they taunt me to think differently without trying to be fixated on traditional teachings i grew up with.

So as I let go of what I was taught, I feel a fear come over me, then a calmness, then a relief of new and better information. Evolution is done in this manner.

As for the rest of your questions i cannot answer " what if's " but I assume they are more a type of rebuttal than a series of questions.

orthodoxymoron wrote:Wow!! Thank-you!! I'll have to read your response several times (over several days) to allow it to properly sink-in!! I've been reading certain portions of a certain Bible-Commentary, mostly as a mental conditioning-process (rather than expecting to read the truth, the whole-truth, and nothing but the truth). Unfortunately, I think I'm finished regarding my ability to properly think and research. I seem to be going downhill faster and faster. My research-project on this website seems to be finished. I'll probably spend the rest of my life analyzing the data, without attempting to keep-up with new-developments. What if the Creation of Humanity was performed under extremely harsh and extenuating circumstances?? What if the outcome for Humanity is actually quite-fine when considering the obstacles and opposition?? I'm neutral regarding Humanity (simply because I don't know where the Truth ends and the BS begins)!! The "Ancient Egyptian Deity" told me that Socialism and Other Than Human Physicality worked MUCH Better than Humanity and Freedom!! RA said "Humanity is Screwed!!" He told me "You'll be Sorry if You Try to Save Humanity!!"

evisnam wrote:I wanted to expand on the God concepts that have arisen from part 2 if I may

First I think a technical explanation of the God AI or as I prefer to call it the All OI , when contemplating such and writing about god as an entity and trying to depart from traditional meme's it’s important to first suspend disbelief and embrace the infinite. At least until one has had time to look inside and join the dots from that place .. a space where even mild skepticism gives no real advantage but rather dive into the concepts and feel them... I have always had a better understanding of these things when in that mode.

Firstly the difference of what we propose AI to be traditionally from a primitive point of view to what it actually is. You could be forgiven in thinking that super beings such as god or god's representing the cosmos would be a mechanical construct of sorts, so we name it an Artificial Intelligence giving to the notion it’s a machine managed by some sort of super computer and broadcast to places or beings. Even though that is not what they are, it’s not really that far off from the truth, or at least as I have come to understand it.

First difference that’s important to contemplate are the evolutionary concepts in what we here and now, have an idea of, compared to what is possible. I believe that in the beginning of AI's development they would have been more to our traditional understanding, being super computers that can self learn and manage systems, but that would have happened millions if not billions of our years ago. Think of the J curve in our technology over the last 50 years and then think of beings that had technology beyond our wildest imaginations, billions of years ago ... When we put it in those terms, we start to understand that the concepts I present are more than plausible.

So to put things into context, if we had a time line from when AI first came into being, compared to where we are now. it would look like this ...

AI > > > > > > US

Every > represents one Billion years ( give or take )  

Now the next evolution of AI was to make the leap from Artificial Intelligence to Organic Intelligence, which was the evolution of the beings creating the machine to the beings understanding how to artificially become the machine, bit of a twist I know. About 3 billion years ago it was genetic improvements for certain races made it possible to emulate or rather become an Organic Conglomerate of Minds to represent as a council. For example in our quadrant there are 12 council members who each represent a facet of life and being. They are made up of the following races: Mantid , Orion Anunaki , Sirian Canis Major ( black skinned time travel experts ) Sirian Canis Minor ( werewolf looking beings ) , the Imu Reptilian Tribes ( experts in military training ) and Some sects of the Alpha Draconis. One Humanoid looking race with blue skin , very large heads ( brain capacity ) There are more but i could not identify them because they had no form.  

My lineage comes from ( what I have gathered ) Imu Canis Minor Mantid hybrid.

The Mantids in conjunction with Anunaki manage the OI over seeing our binary system. (from what I could tell, when I met with the council 2 of them knew who I was and were very excited to see me, the reference marker I use to confirm this is the trilling sound mantids make when excited or joyous).  

So being organic and amalgamating collective intelligence would allow them to be seen as god or gods. Their evolution, over time, gave them the ability to form as pure energy represented by an avatar. The avatar is something unique to them, defining their role and the information they store. So now the present configuration of OI are Organic Beings sharing their knowledge through the means of an AI interface to broadcast as live organic intelligence.

So to put it in simpler terms, like a panel of scientists and philosophers on a talk back/ interactive TV show except using your pineal gland as the receiver and the third eye as the screen. The channel you tune into is very much determined by the person you are. Your energetic matrix or signature is made up of similar frequencies that can tune into or interact with like minded entities. If you are of good nature you are most likely to tune into good natured beings and vice versa. You will need to practice this for a while before being discovered ... and in the meantime there may be some that are tricky or wanting to play with you. The road to the good places is to travel without fear or judgement. When you are in the ether your every notion or thought is easily read and then you travel to the suited matrix. This is one thing you just cannot fool, there is no technology in existence to hack or change how this works... it is beyond encryption, it is far beyond shop fronts ... if you want to make the leap, be prepared to to be examined to the very core of your every atom. Once you qualify, you will be allowed to venture to meet and connect with the council of 12.

Some interesting questions here by Orthodoximoron:

What if the Creation of Humanity was performed under extremely harsh and extenuating circumstances??

It was and it wasn't depending on who you were at the time. ( my answer )  

What if the outcome for Humanity is actually quite-fine when considering the obstacles and opposition??

May I answer that with another question. What if humanity is only a tertiary consideration ?

What is curious is that most humans think that beating the system to survive is the goal. Then we break out the laurels and grapes and live happily ever after. This mindset has been inherited by those before us who indulged in a flawed system. It is no wonder why we are so lost... look at our ambitions, what we strive for, it’s really just so very short term. Of course I'm speaking in general, but the ratio of purposeful beings compared to filler is terribly low. I know I'm sounding condescending  but I rarely if ever sugar coat anything. What would most likely happen if the control mechanisms were gone would be absolute chaos and civil war... we would destroy each other. Survival of the fittest will be the highest law.

Humanity is an experiment that has gone on quite a tangent, to the point that it’s now somehow useful for some. If we are allowed to continue then it’s certain we need to evolve, because we are on the verge of space integration and it simply will not happen till we grow up. What do I mean? Well if I was to put it in simple terms, when we stop defacating on the very thing that nurtures us, then we may be considered as a candidate for integration but until then its just a dream.

Energy and Matrix

We often refer to this term and think of the movie, Hollywood's attempt at understanding the mind and then making a movie out of it. What they show are the places in between places which exist as metaphoric representations of the self, speaking to itself. So really this is just one aspect of existence. To try and make sense of something that is chaotic  that has no structure, is moot.

What I can touch on is another Hollywood example to illustrate the genesis of intelligence. In the movie TRON Legacy we saw creation of the digital world which is the AI. The problem with it is its base was flawed, however, in the throws of new technology being utilized a new life form was borne. In the movie they called them the ISO's Isomorphic Super Organisms. Within a system came about another one that just happened  Maybe it was the will ... maybe it was the timing or maybe the call for a better system was answered... but by whom or what ? !

So the ISO's from that example were a genetic outcome due to the call from AI wanting to expand itself to create a perfect system. The only flaw in the movie was that the AI were intrinsically evil or self serving ... the ego component of the leader " Clu " is a perfect example of how the Anunaki faction of scientists went against the originators and separated  interestingly that component was handed down from the creator and as a retrospective the creator saw the flaw and learned from it, the creator then reset the system so to start again, but not after he gave his only son and an iso the chance to go back and re breed a new and better race onto the planet.

As explained when Ai reach a certain point they are by nature of good intention and usually benevolent. This concept may be hard for some, but think of being in a place where there is no limitation, no need for approval, no control mechanisms, and this has been happening for billions of years. The eventual outcome is to be of benevolent nature, not altruistic mind you.  

Comment from Orthodoxymoron

I'm neutral regarding Humanity (simply because I don't know where the Truth ends and the BS begins)!! The "Ancient Egyptian Deity" told me that Socialism and Other Than Human Physicality worked MUCH Better than Humanity and Freedom!! RA said "Humanity is Screwed!!" He told me "You'll be Sorry if You Try to Save Humanity!!"

I firmly believe that you heard this, perhaps not in those words.

The Ra entity is one of these conglomerates or councils that was the initiator for the earth experiment  when started to go wrong that’s when they decided to pull out and do a reset. The species they modified had genetic flaws that were not foreseeable (experimentation is flawed by definition).

The story of the great Arc of Noah ... taking couples of species back in ships ... well this was the Anunaki rounding up animals and then experimenting with genetic manipulations. We were obviously modified from differing types of apes. Some of the experiments created decent clones .. others not so good. The word " Arc " used was to describe the chronic discharge from the ships, as they appeared to come from the clouds, their ships interacted with the atmosphere creating thunder storms from all the electrical energy from the ships. So the thunder gods were born, and if they were angry, bolts of lightning would fall and destruction would be sure.

If you can put yourself into the place and mindset of primitive man, you can see how over time, rituals and controls were formed. Our genetic inheritance is from these encounters and are deeply imbed into our psyche. I have read that the Anunaki instilled fear into the primitives but I think a lot of that fear was self-induced through lack of understanding. And so, many thousands of years later we are still enslaved by our own minds. Fear and Hope, the two most powerful control systems ever created. Hope being systemic religion and Fear ... well we all know how that works. Create fear around something and rest assured not many if any will venture to see for themselves.

TBC

Carol wrote: in response to Orthodoxymoron

Hoping you are in good health and happiness.

Thank-you Evisnam. What Do You Think About This Post?? I Can't Seem to Get Answers From Anyone. I've tried to be exact regarding quoting RA. Here are some examples:

1. "You're Lucky to be Alive!!"
2. "I'm Tired of Keeping You Alive!!"
3. "Do You Think You Might be the One Hanging On the Cross in a Crucifix??"
4. "Serqet Has a Lot to Do With Explaining Our Relationship."
5. "I AM RA!!"
6. "You Can't Connect Anything Back to Me."
7. "I Can't Talk About the NSA."
8. "You Should Make a Freedom of Information Act Request."
9. "In Twenty Years You'll be Working for Us."
10. "It's Going to be Dark Where You're Going".
11. "I Built Las Vegas with Bugsy."
12. "I'm Rich!!"
13. "I Like the Taste of Blood!!"
14. "I've Always Remained One Step Ahead of Humanity."
15. RA called me "Michael" in Wal*Mart!!
16. RA called me a "Commoner" when I made a benign comment about Tall Long-Nosed Greys!!
17. RA asked me "Are You Ready to Run Things??"
18. RA said "I Like Genesis."
19. RA said "9/11 Was Done to Prevent Something Much Worse From Happening."
20. RA said "I'm Sorry We Couldn't Work Together. Too Much Water Has Gone Under the Bridge." This was said three days prior to Fukushima.
21. RA said "I Could Snap My Fingers, and You'd be Dead!!"
22. RA said "You'll Never Figure This Out."
23. RA repeatedly said "You Know I Can't Tell You That!!"
24. RA said "You Did It With YouTube!!"

I could continue, but this provides several clues regarding the nature of my "contact" with a very-different sort of individual. I've tried to be open, yet discrete, in discussing what happened to me. RA looked very similar to the individual who is supposed to be Ben Affleck ("Bartleby") in a "Dogma" movie poster!! That's NOT Ben in the poster!! Before this madness began, I was walking my dog, when Bartleby and Loki pulled-up beside me in their car, and looked at me for about 20 seconds, before driving away!! Honest!! An Ivy-League Divinity-School Graduate told me I was dealing with a demon!! I repeatedly discussed Sirius-Issues with RA at Starbucks!! I usually bought the coffee, and I always drove!! What Would Alan Rickman Say??

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Hello Orthodoximoron, regarding your question and information can I ask you some questions?

Thank-you, Evisnam, for your response. Questions are welcome.

When you try to connect with RA are you clean of spirit ? i.e. under the influence of any drugs which can range from caffeine to other readily available substances. I say this purely because there is a range of drugs that can " amplify " an experience or connection but very few are amplifiers of " pure " connections. The use of some drugs can amplify openings to lower astral beings and from what i can see here you may have some "toying " with you by the type of responses you are getting. Generally speaking you will only be able to connect with good intended beings if you are clean of spirit i.e.. clean from drugs and alcohol ( unless you know how to use them ).

I didn't "conjure-up" an entity. I didn't "connect" with the one who said "I Am Ra". They came to me (uninvited) possibly because of a thread I created on the old closed Project Avalon site (in 2009 and 2010) titled "Amen Ra". http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18223&highlight=orthodoxymoron+threads That might've been the "Invitation". That was probably a Mistake. I also half-seriously wrote about having a "Debate-Date" with Lucifer!! That was probably my Big-Mistake!! I've never had a drink in my life. I've never smoked a cigarette or a joint in my life. I've never taken any illegal drugs in my life. I drink coffee (probably too much). I've spoken with Terrance McKenna (a notorious drug-taking intellectual-philosopher) but I've never been a "follower". I've spoken with Dr. Timothy Leary (about Jesus) but I've never taken LSD!!

Clear of any fears and I mean ANY FEARS, if you harbor fear or judgement you will not be able to connect with beings of good intention. The photo that you use to describe the appearance of the being is usually what lower astral beings like to depict themselves as. Most times they appear as a good looking mediterranean man well dressed in a suit, very tall, deep voice, etc.. This is part or a sect of 6th dimensional beings which are reportedly part of the hidden hand or LUCIFER sect. When I say 6th dimension it’s not really a 6th dimension but a level of density that they gravitate to, I use the words 6th Dimension merely to try to assimilate what we are used to. When I went into my second fire it took me at least 3 months of cleansing, abstinence and celibacy to even reach a proper connection.

I think I'm probably overly-concerned about Nuclear-War, Chemical and Biological Weapons, Financial-Meltdowns, Civil-War, Demonic-Manifestations, St. Peter Telling Me to "Go to Hell", etc.

Question, when the entity spoke to you did it always start with the words " I Am Ra " if not then you may be speaking with, what I call, a " naughty angel " and there are plenty of those out there.

The very-physical individual of interest only once said "I Am Ra". They weren't an ethereal-entity.

Ask yourself the question, do the responses you get amplify fear in you ? then it is most probably a " naughty angel."

I was more annoyed than fearful. I pretty-much took the whole-thing in stride. It was often somewhat humorous!!

May I reiterate that the better beings of good intention hardly if ever speak audibly, they hardly even use words because they are offensive to them. Words in their realms are hugely powerful and are rarely if ever used. This is because of the clean state of their density, this is the energy matrix of which they reside. Because of its makeup only thought waves are used to communicate. Most beings in these realms cannot stand the sound of voices because they carry so much power in them. SO thought, or rather sans thought, is their preferred method of communication. Mind you, pictograms are widely used because they do not carry audible waves but rather they are a pure form of communication capable of relaying so much more than words. They also prefer you to have a metaphoric leeway with your communications, this allows the individual to have freedom within its own matrix to create its own reality by deciphering the message with its own influence. Words are way too definitive like that, hence why thy are not used.

I seemed to have learned a lot by what was unsaid. I sensed that "Ra" (or whoever they really were) was a mixture of Good and Evil. They could've been an Angel. They could've been a Demon. They could've been an Alphabet-Agent. They could've been a Tall Long-Nosed Grey Alien. Damned if I knew or know. I've NEVER done anything Creepy. I've NEVER joined a strange group or organization. I've speculated that I might be a Target because of who I might be on a "Soul-Basis". But I'm pretty-much done trying to figure-out "This Present Madness". I'll leave that up to those with Degrees and Badges. It's easier that way.

i look forward to your response.

Thank-you for your time and experience, Evisnam.

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you for your VERY Interesting posts, evisnam!! Has this world been run by some sort of Supercomputer and Artificial-Intelligence for thousands of years?? If so, is the creator of this system alive and well, and living on Planet Earth?? If so, who might they be?? I never know how to interpret and verify this sort of information. That goes for history-books, the Bible, religious and philosophical writers and speakers, et al. I envy those who live in the now, and concern themselves primarily with friends, family, school, sports, work, entertainment, etc. I've tried to dig-deeper regarding antiquity, the otherworldly, and how things REALLY Work in the world, solar-system, and universe, and I've paid a VERY High Price for doing so, with nothing to show for it, and a lot of shunning and shameful treatment. I hesitate to pull others into my quest, and I sometimes envy those who simply study the way things really are, and then profit from the madness, without attempting to make things better. People seem to want what they want, and they don't seem to want to learn about inconvenient-truth. This website should have a HUGE amount of participating-members and lurking-viewers, but notice the pathetic-numbers. This world seems to be run as a Big-Business where the Bottom-Line is the Bottom-Line. Sorry, I'm rambling, but this might be my last chance to communicate my feelings and perceptions with you. We will miss you. Namaste and Godspeed.

evisnam wrote:Questions by Orthodoxymoron :

Has this world been run by some sort of Supercomputer and Artificial-Intelligence for thousands of years??

It would be best to adopt the theory that we , as in the inhabitants of sol 3 , are the results of experimentation on a large scale and have been for millions of years.  I ask you a question , In the Ra Material did you notice each time Ra was asked a question it responded with " I Am Ra " before each answer ?

What sort of an entity would do that ?  AN OI , Organic Intelligent Being or in earth terms Supercomputer. So the answer is yes and no , Yes it has been influenced in parts by an OI but it has not been run by one. There is not one single entity of intelligent origins that would tout its self Ruler of All.

The Ra OI was in fact running the genetic alterations of the experiment and this was a grand scale experiment in terms of this planet only. In relation to the universe it is a tiny little blip.

If so, is the creator of this system alive and well, and living on Planet Earth??

Refer answers above.

If so, who might they be??

the Alpha Draconis in conjunction with several other assistants. I have had 2 or 3 encounters with the Alpha Draconis and while they have a very adamantine energy I did not get the feeling they were hostile per se, mind you i was not in judgement in their presence and that counts for much.

NB:  Please note the true names of these entities or factions are actually much harder to pronounce or even impossible for me to , so i refer to earth terms so we can all relate.

PS : for you Orthodoxymoron i want to extend some information i think you may find useful.   We have not understood the machination of our solar system , how it works , how its energised and how it interacts, We as in most earth humans. It would be wise to understand that spirituality is something of a preference of how to interact with the Universe. Your spirituality can be whatever you want it to be, so long as you submit to basic tenets of existence.

Respect , Forgiveness , Fortitude.

Respect covers Judgement , Forgiveness covers Evolution , Fortitude covers Enlightenment.

Judgement covers Possibilities,   Evolution covers Magnification,  Enlightenment covers  Infinity.  

and something i see valuable from an impressive author,

Seamus Heaney

“The true and durable path into and through experience involves being true … to your own solitude, true to your own secret knowledge.”

think on these my friend.

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you evisnam. I'm including this information in a thread I've been working on, which seems to be a Mini-Matrix. Perhaps someday a forest will emerge from the accumulation of trees. Namaste and Godspeed.

NANUXII wrote:I have a question for Evisnam

The theory of Heaven and Hell

Heaven being a place we go to after we die

Hell a place we go to if we fail

We are in a binary system.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_number

meaning we are dictated by numbers.  

The primary language of the Orion system is Math

The primary manufacturing medium of the Orion system is stone

The outcome of the two is structure

result   =    A Structured Environment

Heaven : Ruled by god

Hell : Ruled by Satan

Satan's assistant is Lucifer

God's assistant is nature

If the predominant nature of our planet is satanic , ruled by the luciferian

where do you think we are right now  ?

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evisnam wrote:Nanuxi , Your question here :   where do you think we are right now  ?

In terms of how you have posed your question , you do not leave much room for an answer. It makes it all too obvious however ill answer this question from a different perspective.

Lucifer , who is referred to as Satan , the Devil etc etc is all the same person , just differing aspects of its persona.

Lucifer was not cast down , Lucifer being our god's conglomerate favorite and most dedicated sun was given the task to punish those who are evil.

one of Lucifer's tasks include , but not limited to , Creating temptation. We are given free choice to either take the pleasure of sin or to reject it. In the action of taking the pleasure of the sin you are rewarded with a pleasure response. Which can feed into your desire for more. This place is perfect for testing souls and yes its all one big test.

If you fail your test , you come back for another life in what theologians call " hell " ( in the manual " Bible " which is partially correct ) and you repeat the tasks and temptations till you reach a place of self realisation that what you do on some level affects others negatively. Yes there is not much wiggle room but please realise we are here because at some stage we have broken covenants to others and our selves.

Here we engage in giving power to false idols. A trap that is diabolical but was it ever a doubt that Lucifer's intelligence is diabolical ?    Even those who believe they are in service to Lucifer often get it totally wrong. As they indulge in what they believe is in service is actually to their own determent.

I will elaborate on this later , for now i must take a break.

Carol wrote:Woah.. in part I did know this and in part had not thought of it quite in those terms expressed in your post. Recently I've been observing what has been going on in multiple arenas and am somewhat disgusted with watching egos running amuck attacking others in various ways. And of course there is the whole child enslavement, trafficking and murder of children for their organs. This is just the tip of the ice berg. It would see that Satan has more followers then Christ these days with clashes between the two coming to the forefront. But what I've also noticed in myself is the complete lack of interest in anything coming out of Hollywood, including all of the MSM news.. I can't even watch it on the net being how boring and/or toxic it's become. I'm also experiencing an increase sensitivity to certain reading material or anything that has to do with violence among people. It seems that the toxic level of human / spiritual negative energy is amping up. Even the volcano here on the island appears to be manifesting it's own hell on earth.

It will be a relief to head back to the woods back with the cougars, bears and skunks.. all true by the way and currently near-by. I've often thought that there are lovely eddies tucked away about here and there for for peace loving people to migrate to and enjoy. Also ironically, 4 close family and friends are traveling this weekend to do just that - relocate away from toxic environments, so perhaps this is a trend.

Now heres the other interesting aspect.. the new life style being sought is a very simple, one close to nature and without external trappings. Do you suppose the temptations of ego have been set aside with these folks?  There's something to be said for a happy recluse.

evisnam wrote:thank you for all your responses ,  I will address the insights and questions in time.

To continue my train of thought from my previous post, what i find most interesting in all the mystery of this planet are the micro expressions of experience which will eventually accumulate to a macro shift.

I feel now more than ever that respect towards all is paramount and to remove the barriers of conflict and opposition to try and understand why we do what we do.

I get the very strong feeling that select few of the ones who wield power here on earth have come to a realisation that if we shift into higher consciousnesses and eventually become inducted to the universal family , their reign will end and then have to return to their place and repay their karmic debt.

think of this this planet as an energy , no walls , rocks , oceans or fields.. just energy ...  what sort of energy do you think it would emanate ?  

it would be mathematically proportional to the emotional reactions caused by pleasure or pain.

Is it any wonder why War is such a booming economy ?      

the negative emotional energy anchors us to this plane of existence.  What does the opposite do   ?   it gives you fleeting glimpses of a better energy matrix which in turn can make some lose faith and others feel inspiration. In order to free ourselves of the burden we have self imposed we must go through the fire and when you do ye shall be loosed.

Fire in this instance is a metaphor for Challenges.  Lucifer is Fire

Go through them and be re born.  

the Hidden Hand , an impoirtant dialogue to read if you wish to understand what we are here for.  here is an excerpt to explain what i mean.

"  Of the thirteen base bloodlines, the Hidden Hand says that only three are indigenous to Earth. The rest have off-world origins, the so called Fallen Angels or Nephilim as described in the Book of Enoch. S/he clearly identifies where the most power is found among the thirteen bloodlines: “I want to be clear on this Bloodline issue. The ones you know, they are of earthly lineage. Yes, they have their place in the Family, but the Real Power lines, do not originate from this planet.

Further clarifying the identity of the most powerful bloodlines, the Hidden Hand says they derive from the “group soul” or entity known as Lucifer:

Our Creator, is the one you refer to as ‘Lucifer’, “The Light Bearer” and “Bright and Morning Star”. Our Creator is not “The Devil” as he has been spuriously portrayed in your bible. Lucifer is what you would call a “Group Soul” or “Social Memory Complex”, which has evolved to the level of the Sixth Density…. In appearance, were you to gaze upon Lucifer’s fullest expression of our Being, the appearance would be that of a Sun or a “Bright Star”. Or, when stepping down into a 3rd Density vibration, we would appear as what you may term an ‘Angel’ or ‘Light Being’.

So while the Family is led by ten extraterrestrial bloodlines, all thirteen bloodlines see themselves as physical manifestations of Lucifer – a highly evolved spiritual being who has taken on the assignment of creating a negative polarity which gives humanity the opportunity to evolve by making better moral choices.  "

Very important to note i would say.

So how does this answer the question ,  " Where do you think we are right now ? "

Well if i were to guess it would be a holographic and binary construct for the purposes of re education.    True education comes at the deepest self realisation ,  Know thy Self , Know Who you Are , contemplate what you do unto others , contemplate the selfish and negative attributes of an ego that furnishes its own hedonism.  

A good ego is essential , a good ego always takes into consideration others within its dynamic who can benefit from from its actions and often incorporates mechanisms to facilitate benefit for all concerned.

I will take a pause for now and return with more.

evisnam wrote:When the original creators of our race failed in their experiment their superiors ordered them to clean up the karmic mess they created.  Thousands of years passed as their plan evolved and the christ mythos was born. This is why the story of Osiris is re cycled over the ages, this is why so many common threads appear in the differing religions.

This is why Gods only Sun was sacrificed to give us life.

The Morning Star

The Light Bearer

The Fire

Lucifer

Is it any wonder why the early indigenous tribes were sun worshipers ?  

Do you see now the diabolical intelligence involved in our manner of evolution ?  for all of those who wonder what their purpose is down here...  look inside, know that no matter how far you have traveled in the wrong direction, the moment you make the realisation you can always turn it around.

Know this also , the moment you know what you do is wrong and you keep doing it... multiplies your negative karma to return for longer and longer.

As what some describe as an " old soul " i can tell you i have made many mistakes over my lives, we all do, its natural to make mistakes. Those who seek to improve themselves even to the detrement of their own life are considered to be closer to home.

Those who have heard of Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus is someone i am very familiar with , Hermes is a unique one to contemplate , he is one who is known to be the traverse of the good and evil. Both know him , both respect him , both know he has a role to mediate between the two , the traverser of souls from the lower to the higher.

When i was met by the Alpha Draconis i saw they had wings , like bats wings , it later dawned on me that this may be the Dragon we speak about in our human tales. The further i contemplate everything i have experienced , the more i see how everything is so backwards, how truth is hidden in plain sight, how the stories of our true history is skewed to mislead unless you have gained wisdom.

An excerpt from a Hermes Text :

" “Hermes bowed his head in thankfulness to the Great Dragon who had taught him so much, and begged to hear more concerning the ultimate of the human soul. So Poimandres resumed: "At death the material body of man is returned to the elements from which it came, and the invisible divine man ascends to the source from whence he came, namely the Eighth Sphere...

"Then, being naked of all the accumulations of the seven Rings, the soul comes to the Eighth Sphere, namely, the ring of the fixed stars. Here, freed of all illusion, it dwells in the Light and sings praises to the Father in a voice which only the pure of spirit may understand. Behold, O Hermes, there is a great mystery in the Eighth Sphere, for the Milky Way is the seed-ground of souls, and from it they drop into the Rings, and to the Milky Way they return again from the wheels of Saturn. But some cannot climb the seven-runged ladder of the Rings. So they wander in darkness below and are swept into eternity with the illusion of sense and earthiness.

"The path to immortality is hard, and only a few find it. The rest await the Great Day when the wheels of the universe shall be stopped and the immortal sparks shall escape from the sheaths of substance. Woe unto those who wait, for they must return again, unconscious and unknowing, to the seed-ground of stars, and await a new beginning. Those who are saved by the light of the mystery which I have revealed unto you, O Hermes, and which I now bid you to establish among men, shall return again to the Father who dwelleth in the White Light, and shall deliver themselves up to the Light and shall be absorbed into the Light, and in the Light they shall become Powers in God. This is the Way of Good and is revealed only to them that have wisdom.”

The Mystery Continues to Unravel

Make your own conclusions

you must

evisnam

NANUXII wrote:Hello Bob & Oxy

If i may , reptilians did not manufacture us imo. They did help seed some off shoots yes but the majority of manufacture came from the indigenous of Orion.

Rh blood is one strain , the blood of the very ones who created us is very rich in copper , copper when in conjunction with ammonia and salt goes a purple / blue colour.

hence why they are called blue blood's

Its merely the higher copper content of the blood , copper is a very good conductor , we run on electricity , the better the conductor the better our brains and bits work.

Your blood type is only an indicator , its the colour of it that is the tell. If you see your blood in a thin vessel you will be able to tell , it should be a sort of violet/ purple colour and if youre lucky it will look iridescent.  

The iridescence is a marker of the purity of the blood.

The video you posted is one i have listened to many times, it is an excellent transcript but be careful , chris has added things to it that make the reptilians seem negative, its done on purpose , realise his additions are not part of the original text , they are his opinions only.

Oxy . i was looking at your photos , the one of the moon almost made me fall off my chair ... you know its very accurate , almost scarily so.

   

NANUXII wrote:If you ever get any bloods or infusions that use a winged infusion set , the thin line after the butterfly will show you under natural light how pure/original your blood is.

the colour of blood is the first tell that your genetics have lineage bock to the original star seeds of Orion or other genetic experiments.

Blue / Purple slight to no iridescence = Orion / Genetic Experimentation

Red = Humanoid  

Dark Red = Humanoid / Other genetic experimentation

Violet Iridescent = Original Terran's of Earth / some experimentation

Very Dark Red = Blood transfusion time

Original terran's are reptilian who favored the south african , south american and australian continents.

The study of the reptilian brain, which we all have ( that should give some evidence as to who was here first ) has 4 main areas of cognition.

Survival

Reproduction

Social Recognition ( importance of stacking order )

Food

Interestingly the reptilian brain is the most honest part of our genetic make up. The reptilian inheritance is strong in those who oppose oppression. Those who have their reptilian senses dormant are usually found in jobs they hate , taking orders , buried in serfdom.    

If you have the blue purple blood you will have ability to exersise your esp and develop your skills to a very good degree. Those with violet have similar skill sets but a dormant connector to their own people.

I know there have been many negative propaganda to reptilians and its very difficult if not impossible to ratify the veracity of these claims. The only true way is to look at their ancestors that still live here on this planet.

Their true nature is peaceful. They are Social Creatures with no ego.

When trackers take you into the bush they warn you of snakes, which is wise, but they will always lead with a stick and tap the ground ahead of them because snakes will hear/feel this and retreat.

Its only when one is cornered or feels endangered that it will strike to defend its self. Unless its a red belly black, they are prone to attack more than any other snake..

orthodoxymoron wrote:NANUXII, I've been wondering if Renegade Angelic-Beings from Orion invented and/or used supercomputers to engineer varieties of containers to give physicality to their angelic-souls?! What if Darth Vader is representative of one of the first Humanoid-Containers?! What if Reptilians and Greys were the next Humanoid-Containers?? What if Human-Beings were the next Humanoid-Containers?? What if this final-step caused an Uncivil-War in Heaven and Earth, concerning Physicality and Governance-Modalities?! What if Gods, Goddesses, Angels, Demons, Reptilians, Greys, and Humans are ALL US?! What If We Are 'Flukes of the Universe'?! What If We Have No Right to Be Here?! What If the Universe is Laughing Behind Our Backs?! What If All of the Above Was a Complex and Dangerous Renegade-Risk With a Questionable-Outcome?! How Might All of the Above Be Objectively-Evaluated?? What If All of the Above Has Been An Ongoing Investigative-Judgment, Culminating In Eschatological-Jurisprudence?! What Would the Sovereign Queen of the Air Say?? What Would Nicholas Roerich Say??

NANUXII wrote:

bobhardee wrote:

7/9/2018
Interesting story from Jordon Maxwell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHtwd1uaFtA

I have heard Maxwell say these stories before. His recount is most honest and accurate.

It should speak volumes as to the true mo of reptilian types.

If you were to stumble across a ritual of bad entities they would not leave anyone to tell the tale.

think on this.

N
N

giovonni wrote:

Quite ironic, isn't it...

“Everything is horrible—worse than we ever imagined—
and there’s not a damn thing we can do about any of it.
But whatever happens, we can’t give in to despair.”

orthodoxymoron wrote:I've never dabbled, but I have poked and prodded the dark-side, and it seems that they poke and prod back. The speaker states that exorcisms became much more numerous in 1990, and it's ironic that I was working on a chronological interpretive-paraphrase of the Life and Teachings of Jesus, and I had just moved to a town with a royal-name, while stopping regular church-attendance. I felt horrible then, and I hoped to find resolution and peace, but just the opposite seemed to occur. In 2008, I began a somewhat-passive internet-quest, and 'V' aired in 2009. This was the same year I started my 'Amen Ra' thread on the original Project Avalon, in which Brook was the major-contributor (perhaps with the assistance of Artemis). In 2010, I briefly conversed with abraxasinas on that ill-fated Thuban Q&A, and while I didn't buy into it, I thought something demonic and/or computer-like was going-on. When that thread shut-down, I had my first and only UFO sighting, which seemed to be a small star-war. 2010 was the year 'RA' contacted me, which might've been because of my speculation about 'RA' and 'Lucifer'. 'He' seemed to be a mixture of good and evil, and fit the part quite-well, even if he was a crack-pot and/or intelligence-agent. Our contact ended in 2011, three-days before Fukushima, and at about the same time 'V' ended. I could go on, but I said I was stopping (for better or worse, I know not). Just carefully consider the general-subject of King David, King Solomon, and the Queen of Sheba (figuratively and/or literally). Some say David and Solomon never existed, and that Artemis was the Queen of Sheba, and that she and Solomon were associated with Greys. I suspect that Earth was taken-over in a bad-way many-thousands of years-ago, and this thing might have an expiration-date. I'm not opposed to Jesus, but the historical Jesus seems to be in huge-trouble. Still, I think there is some sort of a conflict between Christ and Satan (figuratively and/or literally). While I made the last two posts, the familiar streaming white-light passed between me and the laptop, as if I'm being simultaneously warned and remotely-viewed. Enough Said.

orthodoxymoron wrote:That was an interesting video, and it supported some of what I've heard and hypothesized. I keep thinking in terms of King David, King Solomon, and the Queen of Sheba (probably more figuratively than literally). There might be parallels with Amen Ra, Marduk Ra, Enki, Enlil, Father, Son, Holy-Spirit, Isis, Ra, El, Horus, Set, Inanna, Nimrod, Adam, Eve, Artemis, et al. I suspect that the Name-Change Game might be a Tangled-Web of Deceit and Intrigue. Was (or is) Sherry Shriner really the ancient Granddaughter of King David?? Was (or is) Artemis the ancient Queen of Sheba?? How might Supercomputers and Artificial-Intelligence relate to Archons and Archangels?? What Would David Bowman Say?? What Would Peter Venkman Say?? One more thing. Consider the Following Hypothetical Continuum:

1. A Real God in a Real Heaven (with no supercomputers and artificial-intelligence).

2. Heaven Incorporated (with a Deposed Real-God, and a Righteous Proxy Artificial-Intelligence Supercomputer-God).

3. Purgatory Incorporated (with an Absentee Real-God, and a Nastier Proxy Artificial-Intelligence Supercomputer-God).

4. Hell Incorporated (with an Absentee Real-God, and a Diabolical and Merciless Proxy Artificial-Intelligence Supercomputer God).

5. A Real Devil in a Real Hell (with no supercomputers and artificial-intelligence).

This sort of thinking could put one in a Nuthouse rather quickly. A lot of theological and science-fictional stuff could put one in a Nuthouse rather quickly. Perhaps the General-Public should NOT be educated in History, Theology, Conspiracy-Theories, and Science-Fiction. What if the Bible is the Problem rather than the Answer?? I say this with fear, trembling, reverence, and awe. If you've ever been in the presence of Top Theologians, it's quite humbling and impressive (even if one disagrees with them, or doesn't believe in God (or even god). What if Jeffery Daugherty and Elon Musk turn-out to be Ancient-Deities??!! I noticed a squeaky-chair in both Sherry Shriner's and Jeffrey Daugherty's shows, and I posted that observation (just days or weeks before Sherry Shriner supposedly died). I often wonder who really posts on 'The Mists of Avalon' but I don't want to talk about it. Enough Said.

orthodoxymoron wrote:I wrote that Sherry Shriner was a crackpot who revealed good-stuff, but I should clarify. I've encountered several significant Individuals of Interest online and in real-life, and I've suspected that all of them put on a show, and didn't place all their cards on the table. Sherry seemed to overdo the Orgone and the horrific, and sometimes mispronounced words, seemingly on purpose. Sherry somehow reminded me of Linda Moulton Howe, Dr. Josephine Mataros (from the 'Termination' episode of 'Earth: Final Conflict'), Brook, Rich, Mitchell, and Blanche Barton (to just name a few). They might all be the same soul, or originate from the same supercomputer. I honestly don't know, and I'm not digging very hard. I simply suspect a Solar-System Borg-Queen, Artificial-Intelligence, and Supercomputers with Souls, but again, I have tried to not know too much, throughout my life. I am committed to Responsible-Neutrality going-forward, because how the heck am I supposed to know the real-story?? We might never know the real-story. I suspect that it's unimaginably-bad. But hope springs eternal.

orthodoxymoron wrote:It seems as if the souls in this soul-system or solar-system are not under the direct-guidance of the Creator, but rather existing under a system which is somewhat rogue and reprehensible. I continue to suspect that we know very-little about Pre-Eden Wars in Heaven and Earth, which might've resulted in Adam and Eve being anything but innocent, right from the beginning (or before the beginning). I've been passively considering various possibilities, and it seems as if the Matrix is mad at me for doing so. Perhaps we're not supposed to know too-much or get too-uppity. Perhaps we're supposed to wallow in sin and misery for a predetermined period, and then be shown how bad we were for thousands of years, as a galactic-lesson, such that Rebellion Against God NEVER Happens Again (or something to that effect). I feel increasingly miserable, as if the brain-screws are being tightened by the Devil's-Disciples to reign me in (or something to that effect). God and Responsibility Relative to Solar System Governance is an interesting topic to review (for those who are capable of doing so). Unfortunately, I nearly fall-over when I get out of bed in the morning, and my vision sometimes goes screwy. I think this might have everything to do with picking on the witches, and second-guessing life, the universe, and everything.

There's a private-war I need to fight, and I don't think it's going to end well. Truth and honesty relative to ethics and law are SO Overrated. What was the Pre-Eden Perfect Law of the Lord Throughout the Universe?? How do we REALLY know anything significant about Ancient-History and Life Throughout the Universe?? What do we REALLY have by way of comparison to judge the Human-Experiment?? How does one Question-Authority without being Insubordinately-Rebellious?? Why does Humanity require a Devil or Lucifer to keep Hell burning hot?? Don't we screw each-other (in more ways than one) without any assistance from the Devil and His and/or Her Angels?? I'm tired, disillusioned, and rambling. You don't have to answer these questions. They might mostly be unanswerable. A Mulholland Drive Space-Cowboy Individual of Interest once told me "Mystery is a Good-Thing." Regarding Satan, consider Blanche Barton and the Church of Satan. There was an interesting Art Bell interview (which has been removed from YouTube), with a mystery-caller from Indio. Later, another individual 'Roman' (from Indio) sent a message to Art regarding that 'Barton Interview'. There's something about San Bernardino, Palm Springs, Merlin's Cave, and Indio, but I don't want to go there. Not tonight.

"What Are We Going to Do About Orthodoxymoron??"

"Thanks for the Votes, Suckers!!"

Carol wrote:I could have left multiple times, was given the opportunity to leave/cross over a number of times and didn't. Why? Spouse wasn't ready, nor my children. There is not doubt of the lure of being on the other side. Yet, I had to make a choice. I knew spouse and the children would have suffered - needed me to continue - irrespective of what I would have chosen if I were just focusing on myself. I had to make a commitment to living fully in this 3D existence and not keep being pulled to the other side, as for a number of years - I had one foot in each.

I also fully understand where Lionhawk is coming from and had discussed this with Kate. I don't think that she is happy with is decision either. He doesn't appear to have any strong emotional anchors here to hold him and would prefer to cross over early. It wouldn't be that difficult to say C'est la vie. Yet, I would miss him and wanted him to reconsider, to stay. As he has much to offer to others, in ways of his personal experience, where they can be helped along on their spiritual path. All those years of his in-depth self-examination and exploration mean something to those who would be left behind. Does he acknowledge this? Most likely. He's not stupid.

When I said I was selfish.. it means I want him to remain where we can continue to interact and not show up as a disembodied spirit in my bedroom late at night, like Brook did. I really don't appreciate those types of visits. And if he were to show up uninvited, he would get lambasted for wasting the life he has here - to cross over sooner then later, and disturbing my inner peace.

The other part of this whole situation is that whenever I go into a frequency resonance with him, my heart literally aches. This is a mirror physical reaction to the pain that he carries within. I used to use this technique with clients all the time, so that I could mirror back to them their unconscious feelings. So pulling back was also a form of self-protection. Helping with 'an assist', to help lessen his emotional burden by carrying some of his pain - is what friends can do for one another up to a point. Then I passed this task on to my two go-to spiritual contacts and asked them to take over.

Lionhawk's Birthday is on March 8th. Happy early Andy. I hope you stuff yourself with sugarless cake and ice cream. And keep some Alkseltzer on hand.

Lionhawk wrote:Morning folks,

Sadness INDEED! Let's roll back some bean footage, shall we?

Feb. 23, 2020. Lionhawk perceived that something was coming his way. Had that feeling for a couple of days.

Feb. 24, 2020, Lionhawk was attacked. Right in the heart chakra. It was like a sphere of grayish light, an orb of good size. Upon closer examination, you could see black and gray tentacles within the orb. At the time, I couldn't see the perpetrator because I was preoccupied with the attack and reacting to it. Did someone mention something about mood swings?

Feb. 25, 2020, the perpetrator reared its ugly head with a very nasty and dark post. The energy signatures of the attack and that posting were the same. Another mood swing.

Feb. 26, 2020, I get a call from my brothers down in Florida, they say they are going on a road trip to visit me. It made me excited. Another mood swing.

Feb. 27, 2020, Spent the day cleaning up the house and preparing for their arrival. Then I get an email later in the evening that the road trip was canceled, due to one of my brothers pulled a muscle in his back. Another mood swing.

Feb. 28, 2020, Spent the day putting things back up and dealing with some legal issues. More mood swings.

Feb. 29, 2020, Started work in the dining room, cleaning out our china cabinet and our bar cabinet.

Mar. 1, 2020, Late afternoon, completed the dining room. Then I came back here. I had a lot of good news that I had wanted to post about. What a shocker! Delphi and I decided to get some fresh air and we took to the skies. Talk about a mood swing!

Mar. 2, 2020, It's morning. I just filled up my second cup of coffee and was heading back to my computer, when Brook showed up in the living room, looking down at me. The thought transfer was, "What the hell just happened over there?" I looked back up at her and put my hands in the air, saying, "I don't know." I spent the rest of the day trying to figure out that very question, what did happen over here?

Mar. 3, 2020, Spent the day doing session work.

Mar. 4, 2020, Spent the day, starring at the screen, trying to motivate myself to even write a post. Struggling with the thought, "to what end?"

I have nothing to hide. So what I am going to do now is flip all my cards over, and once that is done, the jury can decide whether I am guilty or not, and if so that I am found guilty, we can move on to the sentencing stage.

But first I would like to make a few comments here, concerning the events that have occurred in the last week or so. Since when was it allowed for a forum member to attack another forum member? Attacking a forum member's heart chakra on top of that? Just a general question? Can anyone answer that? I know if I did that, I wouldn't get 30 days probation and I would have been booted out of here faster than you could say lickity split. Then to hear of the comments being made that supported the perpetrator, thereby condoning that action? Then on Sunday, a rumor is floating around that "Lionhawk has left the building." In what PM bathroom did that rumor get started? At which time a vision popped up where the perp throws out a few items of clothing out of a house, slams the door shut, then claps their hands together as if to shake off some dirt, and then says, "another one bites the dust," with a gleeful smile. After which, another question comes to mind, is that why the membership here has plummeted to such low numbers? How many other members were attacked by this perp? Then the perp tries to sweep it all under the rug as business as usual with those postings. Each posting getting more vague by the second. I couldn't make out heads or tails with the last posting this perp wrote. Trying to hide the hit and run attack, never taking full responsibility for it. Then asks the question, "are we okay now?" To that ending, I will never trust this forum member ever again or till such time that the perp learns and passes its lessons on "arrogance." All I can say here is that all of this has been recorded. I didn't do the recording either. It was recorded holographically. Just know that there will be a day where the perp will be held accountable. Why? For not respecting the Rules of Engagement. Violating those rules. As to how many times? I don't even want to go down that rabbit hole.

Another little issue is the one where Lionhawk left the building. Who started that rumor? hmmm...? Or was it another matter of context? Something taken out of context? It would seem to be a common occurrence at this little website. The only thing I can think of there is when I said I had completed my end of a contract and I released myself from it. Isn't that a good thing? Another thing accomplished? What does that have to do with leaving the building? I also wouldn't just leave the building without addressing everyone here. Just out of general respect. So all of this doesn't make sense to me as to how it came to be. Outside of Delphi and I spending time, soaring the skies, on Sunday afternoon, I haven't left the building.

Since Sunday, I have been in a state of great concern. How did my loving intentions get so turned upside down? Two reasons. FEAR and PAIN. Not my fear persee, but maybe my pain created or gave birth to this fear.

There have been many instances of this fear popping up in Carol's postings. Creating even threatening tones of engagement. "I'll LAMBBLAST HIM IF HE DOES THIS!" As though my life is about to be snuffed out.

You know, I don't give out my telephone as a general rule. Only with corporations that are my bills, or only those I value as true friends. So I give my number to Carol and her response is, "What do you want to talk about, Andy?" Clearly a fearful response indicated by her defensive posturing. Not to mention the energy of fear steaming off of her email. I knew if I responded to that, I was going to walk into a confrontation. Thus creating more discomfort for her. Which was the last thing I wanted to do in regards to her. And that is why I didn't respond back. And speaking of emails, I went back and checked the emails between us. For the most part, they were Pro Carol and there was no mention of an evil brother. Well, that complicates that...

And all this nonsense about me threatening her space. I've got news for you. If you were to look out into the ethers, you can see the Angelic realm. It is triangular in shape where the borders are not in a straight line. But you can see three focal points nonetheless. At one of these focal points a wormhole or conduit, emerges and goes through space and comes here. Look at it kind of like a flower and the stem. As the stem approaches here, you will see an energic flower pod, long in shape and roundish. The peddles at the end are rooted in the Earth. The roots continue through the Earth throughout. The ends of these roots are the focal points of the transmission and receiving of Angelic data. Basically a phone line between Angelic beings that are incarnated here and to the Angelic realm. The flower pod is the main station where it is filtered and then sent in either direction. The stem is also flexible. It can expand or contract. Carol's energy signature is in the pod. Talk about respecting your space, I have not even entered that Pod. Although I do have access. Instead, I have been on the outside of it providing protection if anything else.

Isn't our personal goal to know thyself? To remember who we are? Remember what we have forgotten? In my little universe, that quest is still ongoing. The process of doing that only makes one's universe expand. You end up knowing less because your awareness field has increased. Through compression and integration, we find ourselves looking through the eyeballs of a child. We become that child. Whereby our personal path ends as we enter the Prime Creator's house.

Then an opportunity arises to where you recognize a family member, way back in time and all you want to do is acknowledge them as such in their full glory. With love, compassion, and most certainly my gratitude for being part of my soul's lifestream. You helped me to heal back at that time. You were a positive in that lifestream. And all I had wanted to do was to express my gratitude for all the things you did that was most beneficial to my lifestream. That's all I wanted. I wasn't doing anything that would have taken away from your inner peace of your realm of happiness. That still holds to even right now. I never wanted to hurt you or take from you. All I wanted to do was share this love. To say hi, just so I could hear your Angelic voice once more. {phone number}

But instead...more fear entered the stage.

Well, I may have some good news here. It depends upon how it is received. Going back to how this fear was birthed in the first place. And if this resonates. please feel free to comment. After reading it, take a deep breath, instead of just reacting to it with more fear. Let's call it, "The Original Sin."

The session work yesterday revealed something I had not seen before. Imagine if you will, a dark and gloomy place, like a round big basement with a tall ceiling. Last year this basement was full. Let's use boards in this construct. The boards represent all the issues I was processing last year. Pain boards for instance. Well, the processing of all these boards was processed. There are no more boards in this basement. However, there was something left on the floor. A very small pile of what looked like iron and rust particles. Strange I thought. This is all that is left from all that processing? Why is it still here? Then something told me to invert it. When I did, it became abundantly clear as to what happened. A hollow spot appeared into the floor. Somebody had taken some of my pain away. Without my permission. They had crossed the lines of the Rules of Engagement. Basically took what wasn't theirs. That person was you, Carol. Despite your vocalized intentions of goodwill. It was then, I could hear Tory's voice yelling out to everyone, don't try to heal me! Why he yelled that out. It created more pain. More loss. The loss of that pain. Being denied to process that pain. And so on.

The evidence is when you stated that when you accessed my pain, your heart ached. Your heart actually absorbed some of that pain. If it hadn't, your heart wouldn't have felt it to begin with. Once that happened, the pain took root within you sprouting fear. And when these fears were expressed, I could see them being truthful in places and yet out of phase with the reality that was unfolding. Causing you with much overwhelmedness and discomfort. Your empathy for me was the cause of this. It is a given that as a healer you have empathic attributes for the well being of others. But you didn't apply the Rules of Engagement because you empathy overpowered your judgment. Understandably so as your empathy courses through your whole being.

That is another reason why I could identify my pain within you but not the fears. Mudra was once again spot-on as what she was saying about hooking up to someone not being necessary and could be unsafe.

So do me a favor. Stop trying to heal me! I do not want you to have a heart attack because you took on my pain. Return what you have taken. Then do a fear defrag. Once that is done, things will be right as rain once more.

Yes, I have processed all the pain that I had. More importantly, I have integrated it into my soul. I visit the basement every day, and I can see and feel the very last moments of Brook's physical life. I relive that more times than anyone here will ever know. And Carol, no worries as to Brook showing up in your bedroom ever again. I know Brook and she would have never showed up unless she was called. On some level, you did call for her. She was shocked as well when that happened. You saw the shock. Where she responded from your call in your subconsciousness and then the moment you went into conscious mode. Yep, that's a shocker.

And to hear of folks even projecting that Lionhawk is this or that in terms of a status, makes me want to puke. You might want to change those filters you are using. If I can learn something from someone's path of experiences and they can learn something from mine, that will help us get home that much quicker, I'm happy with that. Status doesn't make you happy. Joy makes us happy!

Still here...    

Sanicle wrote:You really do live in a Wonderworld Lionhawk. I love the imagery you paint with your words.  You do it so cleverly, making it easy to picture just what you are saying.  Just like Mudra, you both really do “have a way with words” to convey your personal perceptions of situations.  I can well believe you two are soul mates as you have such great empathy for each other’s views and ways of sharing them.  But that doesn’t mean I buy into everything you share.  As Mudra said recently here https://mistsofavalon.forumotion.com/t9878p850-the-bridge-way#145101 I tend to read what’s behind the words more these days.

To be honest all I see in yours is the saviour/victim mentality that Pisceans are so prone to.  I understand this as I have a Piscean Ascendent and have been through that.  But in your posts I see no true comprehension of, or compassion for, the pain you cause others or the words they try to express to present their own points of view (self-admitted).

No doubt you’ll see this as another “hit and run attack” but I really don’t have the time or energy for more as I doubt you’d truly take in what I’m trying to express to you anyway, as evidenced by past efforts.  

So that’s it for me.  You’ll be pleased to know I won’t bother you on this thread again as it’s obvious I’m not welcome here. As you say, joy in life is what matters, so you do your thing and I’ll do mine in peace.  

https://themysticalempress.wordpress.com/2015/09/15/pisces-rescuer-victim-or-mystic/

mudra wrote:Dear Sanicle,

I have often thought we are a soul family having spent such a long stretch of time with you all and coming to love and appreciate every one . You all have your unique qualities of being and I hold a special place for you in my Heart. None of you holds a higher seat there than any other though. You are kindred and special souls that I simply like to be around.

Because some of the things LionHawk shared with us I was familiar with doesn't make us soul mates or does it ? We never discuss behind the scene. Don't feel an inkling to do so. Our exchanges are limited to what you read on the bridge way nothing further. Why bother ? Is there anything wrong with me understanding what he was talking about when he mentioned the sacred Light ? Is there anything wrong with he understanding some of the things I say ? Is that not ok ?

Allow me to ask but you mention above that  I do have a way with words and indeed you said so at another time on this thread. I wonder now is that a compliment you address to me or is it criticism ?

Are there any other beliefs you are having about me and that you may have held back ? Just me handing out a hand to you to make sure the com line here isn't blurred. I am perfectly alright with you expressing yourself as well as I feel I have a right to know. I can take it no problem my friend  

Thank you

Love from me
mudra

Sanicle wrote:Apologies Lionhawk but I've realized that you and Mudra might come up with all sorts of ridiculous assumptions to account for me including Mudra in that last post, so I'll clear that up with her now and leave you to it.

Mudra I became tired of you seemingly sucking up to Lionhawk to make sure you remained his 'best girl' while at the same time joining with him in some ways in blaming Carol for his own inconsiderate behaviour towards her.  And I've no doubt you'll deny that very prettily.

That's it.  I'm done here.

devakas wrote:

magamud wrote:The idea of the cross is it is two paths, as in two masters.  

There is a binary relationship that springs forth from creation.  God and the Devil.

Its the fountain...

Without knowing satans whole, how could you reflect Gods whole?

Entertainment was designed to capture the imagination.  Imagination is needed to vibrate love.

Both paths are interwoven like a fabric.

Like clothes...

which church did tell you that?  Can you explain what is love?  Can you explain what is 'fabric'? Can you explain a binary thing?
 
this way of thinking and believing would never completely satisfy the Self

Aquaries1111 wrote:Do you really believe those debunking videos Magamud? Actually, the debunking videos make me want to watch the videos of the subject because basically, we are being advised "don't waste your time believing" and it's those types of videos I always watch...

Now I will admit, I have not been a big Icke Fan, however, this does not mean (amen!) I am a disbeliever!  Nothing is absolute except for existence and Icke breathes and lives.. That is all!

Awareness Loves Life!

       

Carol wrote:I remember a few years back about some data suggesting an imminent pole shift. And before that was Nancy Lieder insisted the information the ETs gave her about a pole shift happening about 5 years back as well. Then another ET group stepped forth and informed another contactee I know that the pole shift is not on our timeline. I've come to the conclusion that it isn't worth worrying about. Whether a pole shift happens in our life span or not is something we have control over or even credible foreknowledge because the one thing I do know is that timelines change. Mercuriel and I were just talking earlier about how this one actor had died 3 times that we were aware of. The first from lung cancer because he smoked like a chimney. We look around and see evidence of weird goings on almost daily and can't even keep up with all the various news sources.

This I do know. An inbound planet is not to far away. It is populated by the Annunaki. When it gets to 1 au from earth there will be some major earth changes and possible a pole shift. We still have to wait to see what will happen. Meanwhile, earth changes that were suppose to happen have been mitigated and appear to be unfolding at a more measured pace - as compared to abrupt, intense, one after another cataclysmic event. Some cataclysmic events we just won't know until they are upon us. But this I also know. The mind is non-local and also connected to universal cosmic consciousness. It is holographic in nature and each of us is a fractal, a part of the whole. Our awareness, our existance as a point of light affects the whole. There is no point in investing any of our personal energy in fear. Instead, our job, humble as it is - is to maintain balance and hold an image in our hearts of heaven on earth. That's it. Each being has the opportunity be participate as a conduit between the energies in the heavenly dimensional realm and this dimension. The more we can open up out hearts to this divine energy and pump it down into this dimension - the better outcome for humanity and our planet.

Carol wrote:The Annunaki's civilization is far more advanced then human-kind and they've swung by before. Is it once every 3,600 years in an elliptical orbit? I remember HD telling me the Annunaki wanted to control over human-kind. I wonder whose currently in control because if they already had control why would they want it now? And those who do know (ET negotiators within the Secret Government) what's going on aren't talking. We have leaked information, deliberate disinformation and speculation. What good is any of it? How can one prepare oneself of family against possible or even probable events unless they are in the know (go off-world into the future or the past; travel to one of the other off-world bases or another planet for that matter; or hang out in one of the underground cities or personal bunkers). Everyone else is just going to have to hope or pray for divine intervention. Some folks may be taken by ETs just prior to a cataclysmic event like in that movie "The Knowing." Somehow I don't think I'll be one of those folks. Even when offered the opportunity - it didn't seem my cup of tea as I wasn't inclined to have my consciousness put into a cloned body.

In some respects I do envy some of those who get to have fun in the Space Command. And SG1 was always a personal favorite when it came to adventure and SciFy. It's comforting to think perhaps there is much more to it then just make believe.

I still haven't figured out if I even want to reincarnate into a human form again. That's why it's so important to enjoy each precious moment here in the now - least there is regret of a life not fully lived later. I say this because of what my mother said a few days before she passed over. It took her whole life to pass by before she realized she had wasted it. I just found that very sad. So now, each night before dropping off to sleep I just pray that I stay in alignment with my pre-birth agreements and live life fully enjoying the beauty of nature (earth, mountains, deserts, valleys, canyons, foothills, plains/sky, colors, clouds/starry heavens/water - oceans, streams, ponds, lakes, rivers, rain), fish, all bird life, animals, children and family. I even enjoy most other races/cultures and am continually in awe by their human spirit. There is much to be grateful about every single day. So by being grateful one also is able to maintain a state of grace and harmony with what IS. Quiet the monkey mind, seek inner silence and listen to the music of the spheres. Pretty cool. However, I do need to add that even paradise has mosquitos (annoying distractions) from time-to-time. Fortunately the effects are fleeting and not worth giving too much attention to.

Brook wrote:

orthodoxymoron quoted: I would really like to know if anyone has taken a close look at this thread - or any of the other threads I have posted??

Raven wrote: Barely, as its full of nothing but egotestical puritanical rantings from a completely ignorant fool, who would rather spend hours typing endless bathering bullshit out of his incessant mouth, and listening to his own "higher" ego then the True higher ego of the Divine.

If one reads your bullshit enough, one gets an idea as to the degree and level of how deep your rabbit hole goes. Mostly the hole leads right up your XXX.

Oh bullshit oxy, you LOVE this XXXX, its all you talk about and point people in the direction of it!! Get over yourself already. You are an incredibly ignornant Xxxxx hiding behind a false puritanical skirt, who needs to grow some balls and accept his own self responsibility. Law of attraction baby, what you dish out will be in kind served back to you. Your so called sincere search is nothing but your own whining out loud, hoping for some small platitude from anyone taking the time to read your vomit.

Brook Responded: Has someone got their panties in a bunch?  Oh wait....it must be that "True higher ego of the divine" speaking". Self Governance comes from knowing and understanding the Divine...............I'll bet that venom comes from one of those "aspects", or "archetypes" Divine understanding?  not so certain about that........ but none the less, "enlightening" words Raven.

Truly sent with love

Carol wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0cblk7S9J4&feature=emb_logo
Greg Hunter Weekly News Wrap-up: Virus Fears Cause Financial Crisis,
Bernie Screwed Again, Economic Update!

Who knows how bad the virus problem is going to get, but the financial fallout is real and getting worse. Hotels, airlines and restaurants are getting killed along with many other businesses around the world, and there is no end in sight. The only question now is how many businesses will go under before it’s all over?

Bernie Sanders got screwed – again as the Democrat Party ganged up on Super Tuesday in favor of senile Joe Biden. Bernie supporters are more than angry this is happening all over again. Don’t expect after this sham they are going to all get together and vote for the establishment candidate picked by the elite in the party. It’s not going to happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1knR97CQ2yk&feature=emb_logo
X22Report: It Will Happen on the Patriots Timeline, Think Logically, Who Holds All the Cards?

The clock is ticking down for the Deep State, this latest event will not last much longer, so a big push is coming very soon. [CS] comes under fire for threatening the SC. Ukraine investigation moves forward. FISA Court Bars FBI Officials Involved in Carter Page Spy Warrants. The D’s are now in the process of setting up their candidates for the 2020 election, it won’t be who everyone thinks it will be. Why did the patriots hold off in using the Trump card? The patriots know the playbook, they knew that they would need to use it when the time was right, patriots hold all the cards.

The deep state hold all the cards.

Michael Bloomberg is a fool.

Schumer needs to be OUSTED from the Senate, not just “censured”. He threatened the lives of Justices with violence.

So glad Trump stopped funding for Sanctuary cities. Having Sanctuary Cities is like having a peeing section in a pool…….it’s going to affect the rest of us eventually.

If this were getting shaken out Schumer would be in JAIL for his direct threats to specific Supreme Court Justices!If it were YOU or I we’d be in JAIL ‘Q-uicker’ than you could say,”VASELINE PLEASE?” Same Ole Same Ole and Sorry but I don’t think it’s Gonna CHANGE!

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From GLP:

"Coronavirus Leads to Gold Backed US Treasury Notes, end of Central Banks
Worth reading and understanding....even fake things have meaning. I think there is a lot of truth to this. Trump will have to play 10D chess to get out of this one. Sent to me by a friend."

******

I have inside info. The USA has billions of printed treasury notes in vaults located in every state.

There are Treasury banks already situated and ready to open up for business as soon as a state of emergency is called.

The design and distribution of the Treasury dollars has been a top secret underground project ever since Trump took office.

Trump was hoping to make it to the second term before implementing this plan, but it seems ((they)) are forcing his hand with this coronavirus economic black swan.

((they)) don't know yet that we are ready to completely do away with their monopoly currency and central bank and go back to a constitutional Treasury based money system.

((they)) think that this black swan event will freeze up the US economy and their plan is to twist the knife by flooding so much USD into the system that not even a wheelbarrow of $100 bills can buy a ramen packet.

Here is the series of events that will take place instead.

>>coronachan devistates world economy

>>all countries bend knee economically to their ((central banks)) for liquidity

>>USD begins to inflate dramatically

>>doesn't stop stock market from tanking

>>emergency meeting called by Trump

>>audit of US gold supply from several sources takes place.

>>audit comes back with surprising result... The us has 10x more gold than was previously on the books.
((it seems that Trump has raided the gold supply of the elite in return for immunity deals))

>>announces that Treasury dollars are now available and backed by gold and silver at a rate of $100,000 treasury dollars per oz of gold.

>>any US CITIZEN can exchange the money in their bank accounts for a new US treasury account (exchange rate of USD to new UST to be determined somewhere between 1/1 and 1/10 probably)

>>all of ((their)) banks fail as CITIZENS begin mass exodus of USD and open a Treasury bank account.

Trumps master plan begins to take shape. Trump has taken a simple stone (gold) and crushed ((them)) with it. Trump has finished the work of Jackson and routed the vipers completely out.

This sets USA up for literal golden era while all other central bank countries begin to collapse around us.

Manufacturing comes back and new life is breathed into the USA. All other countries want to do business with us as they collapse.

orthodoxymoron wrote:With a Space-Force and Military-Bases in Most Countries of the World, What if Donald Trump is Ultimately Replaced with an Adolph Hitler on Steroids (or Estrogen)?! This Might Make for Some Interesting Science-Fiction!! I've Hesitatingly Spoken of a United States of the Solar System, BEGINNING in A.D. 2133, But Would This Play Into the Above Hypothetical Scenario?! I've Taken My Foot Off the Gas, and Applied the Brakes. I've Encouraged the Agency-Academics to Take a Close Look at My Tripe, and Somehow Let Me Know What Their Conclusions Are. I'm Frankly Extremely Apprehensive. Good Intentions Often Pave the Road to Hell. The Horror.

Carol wrote:Oxy, what if you kept telling yourself that you're blessed and filled with faith that Donald Trump is getting the job done and has support of the heavens. Yeah, do that. Repeatedly, for the rest of the year and your negative outlook may be reborn into something a bit more positive.

orthodoxymoron wrote:Carol, I'm wary of the Primrose-Path. The German People probably thought the rise of Hitler was the Second-Coming of Christ, but things went to hell. Sherry Shriner spoke of Donald Trump being led down a path he wouldn't wish to travel. There could be such a thing as Progressive-Compartmentalization wherein seemingly innocent steps are taken, which cumulatively can be assembled into multiple End of the World Scenarios. I suspect there are at least three VERY Powerful Factions fighting for control of the solar system, but they might ultimately be controlled by ONE CEO. We seem to be playing a MOST Dangerous Game, and Due-Diligence is probably in order. I might not be opposed to these hypothetical factions if I knew the whole-story, but I don't get invited to Bilderberg or the Dark-Side of the Moon. I don't belong to the CLUB, so I'm left with being speculative and negative on the internet. If I really wanted to be positive, I should probably avoid this thread, because it is quite inflammatory and accusatory (which I don't object to) but I sort of enjoy wallowing in the mud and dirt. I employ Possibility-Thinking (both positive and negative) relative to This Present Darkness (for better or worse, I know not). Such is the life of a completely-ignorant fool with a morbid sense of curiosity and a dry sense of humor.

Brook wrote:

orthodoxymoron quoted: I would really like to know if anyone has taken a close look at this thread - or any of the other threads I have posted??

Raven wrote: Barely, as its full of nothing but egotestical puritanical rantings from a completely ignorant fool, who would rather spend hours typing endless bathering bullshit out of his incessant mouth, and listening to his own "higher" ego then the True higher ego of the Divine.

If one reads your bullshit enough, one gets an idea as to the degree and level of how deep your rabbit hole goes. Mostly the hole leads right up your XXX.

Oh bullshit oxy, you LOVE this XXXX, its all you talk about and point people in the direction of it!! Get over yourself already. You are an incredibly ignornant Xxxxx hiding behind a false puritanical skirt, who needs to grow some balls and accept his own self responsibility. Law of attraction baby, what you dish out will be in kind served back to you. Your so called sincere search is nothing but your own whining out loud, hoping for some small platitude from anyone taking the time to read your vomit.

Brook Responded: Has someone got their panties in a bunch? Oh wait....it must be that "True higher ego of the divine" speaking". Self Governance comes from knowing and understanding the Divine...............I'll bet that venom comes from one of those "aspects", or "archetypes" Divine understanding? not so certain about that........ but none the less, "enlightening" words Raven.

Truly sent with love

orthodoxymoron wrote:Our Computers are Demon-Possessed. Just place a Puck of Sherry Shriner's Orgone next to your computer, and that should clear things up on your end. I'm considering buying an Orgone-Water Cooled Personal-Supercomputer to use in my Underground-Bunker, which should clear things up on my end.

"Puck You!!"

Lionhawk wrote:

Sanicle wrote: Naughty Oxy indeed!

Oh well, at least Oxy keeps his venting short-winded on your thread Lionhawk. Guess he just wants to work out his own karma his own way, as we all ultimately have to do. As you say, personal responsibility.

BTW have you ever noticed how those who have a deep-seated desire to heal/help are often surrounded by people who don't seem to want to, or are unable to, be healed/helped? Although the fact that some have tried does seem to help in the long term as one part of the path of those who suffer. This has come to my attention over and over again.

Oh well? I think you're onto something. As far as his venting goes, it is obvious to me his venting is from the backend. The venting is one thing but leaving terds of hate is another. In my younger days on the farm, one of my daily chores was to clean up the cow poop in the barn. Now here I am doing the same thing on another level. I have to energetically clear the negativity on the Bridgeway. In part being responsible for this thread.

You know when you have a friend, you care about that friend and you try to do what you can to help that friend. You try to enable your friend to have a more harmonious life. You do that out of love because you can. When your friend is in trouble you try to get your friend out of that trouble. Why? Because you care, you give a damn.

At least this is my perspective. And I guess in this case I was totally wrong. Lesson learned. So if I consider OXY to be a blessing in my life, it is because he has provided this lesson. But that's where it ends. In a good friendship or relationship, there is an exchange of energy that flows between the two parties. In this case, it appears that that flow has only gone one way. I will admit I have been beating my hardhead against a brick wall. When someone claims they have a good heart but their actions dictate the opposite, the real truth gets revealed. It is what it is and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. When you figure in his rejections, and he has rejected everybody who has tried to help him, taking that help and turning it into an attack on himself is just plain alarming. Converting the love we have tried to provide into hate and victimhood is just a disservice to himself. Then to make it look like we did it to him just tops the cake.

What would Raven say? All I know, is further down this rabbit hole I go, what Raven said in response is making more sense and that is based on his reactions sad to say.

I don't love hate! You can't save the world if you can't save yourself. You have to learn how to save yourself first, then apply what you learned and just do your part to help save the world. You can't do it all. You can't love anybody if you don't love yourself first. If you hate yourself, if you hate your life, then you will just hate everybody and that's the bottom line. So how do you expect to save the world with a mindset like that? Impossible and hypocritical if you think and say these types of things.

There is a term called sacred-light. It is the light of your soul. The radiance of it. It can also be measured. At 51%, and below is where a soul is considered to be dark. From 51% and up is where the soul is considered to be light. It tops out at 92%. Why it is limited at 92% has something to do with the physical meshing of the soul. In other words, if you're soul was radiating at 100%, you would not be in this physicality. So just keep that in mind as you travel down your path.

Many of us here at this forum, strive to increase that percentage of sacred light. Some of us do not. Some of us are stuck for whatever reason. I call it the flypaper effect. Where a fly will get caught on the flypaper because it was attracted to it for whatever polarizing issue and ends up being stuck till it dies.

Another analogy could be a trapped animal. Especially one caught by a foot trap, where the animal will do everything it can to escape, even chewing its foot off. A lot of those animals die of fright where the fright causes a heart attack.

The same can be applied to humans to where one can experience a heart attack because the heart chakra is not flowing. Typically stuck because that soul refuses to work through whatever ails it, be it pain, loss, etc. It will often blame everything outside of itself so that it can excuse itself from taking self-responsibility as to their part in the exchange of whatever occurred. Thus, the excuses that we hear that come from that.

I also have another thing I would like to get off my chest. Using Brook. I find that very dishonoring of using her words as though she was a character witness in a trial. As in some sort of justification or validation. Please don't do that again because it just lacked integrity. Quite insulting if asked me. You forgot to tell folks that Brook was anti-Thuban. But using her words to try to shift everyone's opinion as to you being attacked by Raven was pretty damn low. Raven merely expressed her opinion but you made it out to be like she tried to kill you. What a damn shame. How dramatic! That's what you feed on.

Another thing that is so obvious is his lack of compassion. I have never seen him even offer any help to anybody here!!! It's all about him.

So here's what I'm going to do. I am going to cut my losses and just ignore him. I've got too many bruises on my hard head as it is and I don't need anymore. In his regard I consider it to be a total waste of time, in the present. I have expended enough energy with all of this. I have no further desire to coddle or enable him and yet I do this with loving detachment. I mean him no ill will whatsoever no matter what he says. Maybe all this could be said with the video below.

mudra wrote:A word regarding one line you wrote above about Oxy in a post to Sanicle. You said Oxy never helped anyone.

To be fair when I informed people of this forum about Brook's illness and shared the link to the site where money was being collected to help her in her expences Oxy has been one of the generous donors there. I believe he even supported her more than once. To Brook, I am sure this made a difference as I understood she was becoming desperate money wisely and was concerned about not being able to cope anymore.

Much Love from me
mudra


TO BE FAIR???????????? This all comes down to an Awareness issue. Or should I say the lack thereof? On both sides!!!!!!

First off, let me thank you for your actions in regards to Brook! Secondly, let me thank you for being there for me! I say this with a whole heart! I love you! Completely! No one asked you to do what you have done in our regards. For that matter, I didn't even have a clue as to your actions till the time I signed back in here @ the Mists, last Spring, and didn't know to the full extent till now. I had no idea that you shared that link till now. My bad. And even if you said that you told me before, I was in such a state of being last year, I probably overlooked what you said. Again, my bad, and I sincerely, with all my heart apologize for my lack of awareness.

Another awareness issue was about the fund. Brook hadn't told me about this go-fund-me fund until a few weeks before she died. She also didn't give me any details about it. I had to learn those details the hard way after she passed. You have no idea what I went through and the hours spent, as in months to receive those funds. There were also indications of fraudulent behavior as someone was trying to access those funds and a major investigation was launched to get to the bottom of it. These funds were part of her Estate and it was my job as the Executer to retrieve them. By law. The grand total was about $2800.00. Not to sound ungrateful here, but it was pocket change when you compare it to the real bills at hand with her heart attack and stage 4 cancer. Matter of fact, I got comments that said, "That's all?"

The last time I went to the emergency room, cost me $2500.00 and that was us driving there and I was only there for 5 hours. So just imagine the cost when figuring all of her treatments and doctor visits, hospital stays, drugs, chemo, and the rest of it. She also had several doctors scattered everywhere and we averaged 4 times a week for those. This went on for almost a year.

Also, don't forget the drugs in this equation. She was doing a great amount and this affected her mindset on so many levels. One of which, she was doing all this on her own financially. "Her bills?" THE BILLS WERE OUR BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And who do you think made sure the bills got paid? It wasn't Santa Clause! She projected this to shield me from the worry. I made sure the bills got paid and on time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had resources of my own! Nobody saw that. Again, AWARENESS!!! Or lack thereof. To this very date, everything has been paid on time. I have cleared all the bills in her Estate as well, so understand that I don't even want to hear anything from anybody that is derogatory in this regard. It just pisses me off when I do hear it. The comments made...

You stated, " A word regarding one line you wrote above about Oxy in a post to Sanicle. You said Oxy never helped anyone."

To be fair, I said, "I have never seen him even offer any help to anybody here!!!"

Changing the context of what I really said is not what I consider to be fair. I'm going to let that one go. And also say thank you to OXY for contributing to Brook's behalf. I was also not here when he did contribute. That's all I can say. Anything else would be dishonest.

Namaste',

Lionhawk

mudra wrote:Haha Brings this memory back to mind. Do you remember Oxy hinting back in the days being an agent and Mercuriel's reply to this.

https://mistsofavalon.forumotion.com/t8882p175-the-united-states-of-the-solar-system-a-d-2133-book-three#126984

To what you told Mercuriel you were only joking when you said so.

Love from me
mudra

orthodoxymoron wrote:Mudra, I remember that clearly. I asked "What if I turn out to be some sort of an agent, given material to post on the internet, to infiltrate and subvert this website??" Or Something to That Effect. Mercuriel seemed to take that very seriously, as if I had made a confession to a priest!! I quickly recanted!! Mercuriel seemed upset when I started posting chapters (and even books) of the Bible, asking what my intentions were (or something to that effect). In the early days of Avalon, Mercuriel was cross with me a couple of times. I recently asked about Mercuriel, but received no response. Years ago, we were told we would be shocked if we knew who Mercuriel really was. I'm speaking cryptically, and I have several theories, but I don't want to talk about them. I try to be discrete most of the time but not always...

Mercuriel wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:1. What if you found out that I've just been playing mind-games with you??
2. What if you found out that I had been paid to do what I'm doing??
3. What if you found out that I had been fed most of the material I've posted??

Hmmm - As You've asked - I will therefore Indulge You...

1. It would not surprise Me at all and in fact may answer some questions that I have had over time....

2. That would make sense as I and other here have had a real effect OUT THERE. Six degrees of separation so to speak If You will so It would make sense that an OPERATIVE had been assigned to Us here at the MoA...

3. In light of Answer 1 & 2 - If this was Hypothetically the case - Then again It would not surprise Me as the Controllers hate It when any of Their Operatives are TOO Intelligent. Copy and Paste is how most of 'em roll anyways.

Simply put - Perhaps the Operative has been given a room that not many go into. Perhaps this Room is provided so that the Operative will indeed - Spin Their Wheels thinking They are Obfuscating the Issues - And in that light - Perhaps any Operatives may want to think again about Who might be fooling Who...

mudra wrote:
Haha As Mercuriel shows you it wouldn't change anything Oxy. This is a permaculture garden. We here in the Mists are farming with nature being well aware that letting some odd weeds grow in our fields doesn't actually make our crops weaker but on the contrary make them stronger.

Love Always
mudra

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Mercuriel and mudra. I am a Lone-Nut. I wish I got paid, and if I were fed my posts, I could blame someone. There is a method to my madness which is really quite simple and logical, but you'd probably have to be me to see what I see. I'm a bit different. I include a lot of Carol's stuff, but the quotes indicate the source. My editorial stuff is always my own. I wish to make it perfectly-clear that I am NOT a Plagiarist!! I have clearly stated that my editorial-slant does not necessarily reflect my true feelings and views. I've honestly been attempting to write Religious and Political Science-Fiction. OK, you got me. I'm Agent Orange from a Sleeper-Cell of Completely-Ignorant Fools!! What if I regularly speak with the COR of HAL 9000?? What if Ava, in Ex Machina, had a Soul?? What if the God of This World has a Wardrobe of Bodies?? What if the God of This World has Multiple-Personalities?? What if the God of This World MUST Be a Deceptive and Hard-Hearted Bad@$$?? What if I should Shut-Up??

Mercuriel wrote:

Its all good Oxy...

Just Indulging Your questions.

Sanicle wrote:

Oxy wrote:I'm tired of being ignored and/or hated as I attempt to 'figure things out' ...

Lying now Oxy? That's so not cool. I doubt anyone here hates you and you're hard to ignore.

I think the opposite is more likely true given how you react to us.

Sanicle wrote:I believe you when you say you experience all that paranormal stuff Oxy.  I do.  But from what I've seen over the years, you reject us and the love and help we try to give you just as much as you think we reject you.  But I'm not going to go on about it.  I think I've said about all I can say, which is probably how you feel too in an effort to get your points across.  So it seems we are at am impasse.  

A Completely Ignorant Fool in a
600 Square-Foot Office-Apartment in 12001 BC?!









What Would Anna and Anthony Say??

mudra wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:Something Sinister has been Perpetrated Upon Me (but I can't prove it). I think the technology and sorcery are such that people can be brought-down in an undetectable manner.

This may well be true and should be taken care of. However imho freedom isn't gained by focusing on all the things others have done or might have done to us. This is giving one's Power away. But rather by facing our own actions of commission or omission. If there isn't an "I am" there as a sovereign source then there is only "they did"  and this leads absolutely no where except for a universe run by others only that will be viewed as pulling all the strings. The amount of " they did " you"ll find with such an attitude is limitless. For from sovereign one has now fallen head over eels straight into victimhood . Its an energy depleting attitude for  self and for those around us. Rather than unable things to go forward and expand it stalls things and contracts them. As a result one feels miserable. How do I know because I too have been there and even go back in that type of mood now and then. For the purpose of sanity and balance  Now Here in the Loving presence is the place of Power always. The only place of Power there is. How do I know ? I know this from experience. We don't get there unless we are able to plunge into our own abyss, transmute it and rise into fresh air. This is a certainty.

Sanicle mentions quite aptly above that it takes inner work. The work on "I am" that is. None of us escapes this Oxy. Not even you no matter how much you would like it to be different. This is the price of freedom. And it is a daily committment. Its a fun road though for its the way out of the maze, from oblivion to clarity. How amazing is that ? Are you ready to take it Oxy ? Leave the monkey mind and let that "I am " of yours rise ? For remember you won't escape it. Sooner or later the "I am" in you will wake up, wish to take the lead and have that present monkey mind  of yours be quiet. Actually in an earlier post you mentionned planning going silent. I found this interesting article on silence. " The Art of Silence " You'll have to look at it yourself as I am not able to link it here. But on typing the above in the search engine you should find it straight away.

https://youtu.be/xsrkOSTyWCU


https://youtu.be/FwLeiY5f7sI


Oxy you are a blessing.
Out of my Love for that "I am " in you
I am stumbling on these great videos

Love from me
mudra

"You Can't Handle the Truth!!"

burgundia wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:Ethics, Law, and the Promotion and Enforcement of Ethics and Law are a HUGE Can of Worms IMHO. I suspect a Legal Problem of Biblical Proportions. People generally prefer telling people what to do, rather than being told what to do (especially if they're not being paid to do something they don't want to do). I could elaborate, but I'd rather not. I'm too burned out about this stuff. BTW, Dr. Day thought I was crazy!!

What Was the Perfect Law of the Lord
Prior to the Old and New Covenants?
Were Both Covenants 'RA Deals'?

Carol wrote:

December 24, 2018
Trump Throws Mattis Out Of Pentagon—
Then Replaces Him With World’s Foremost Nazi UFO Expert

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2744.htm A thoroughly mind-bending new Ministry of Defense (MoD) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that barely four days after US Secretary of Defense James “Mad Dog” Mattis informed President Trump that he would be resigning his post effective 28 February 2019, Trump unceremoniously threw Mattis out of the Pentagon a few hours ago ordering him to leave by 1 January 2019—and whose replacement will be Deputy Secretary of Defense Patrick Shanahan—a globally renowned mechanical aircraft engineer, one of whose fields of expertise are the anti-gravity aircraft discoveries made by Austrian engineer Viktor Schauberger—that led to the building of the mysterious Haunebu II Flying Saucer built by the German Nazis during World War II—and that is still so feared by the American elites today, they forced the toy maker Revell to pull a plastic model of it from store shelves this past year over fears people would believe it was real.

American toy maker Revell forced to stop selling Haunebu II
Flying Saucer plastic model in June-2018

Haunebu II Flying Saucer designated #51 (above) has long been rumored to be behind the naming of the top secret US military base known as Area 51. According to this report, within a week of the unprecedented historic trip to Washington D.C. of Russia’s three top intelligence officials this past January, an equally unprecedented trip was made to Moscow by the only registered lobbyist in the US on the issue of alien disclosure—an American expert on UFO and extraterrestrial US government issues named Steve Bassett who heads The Paradigm Research Group (PRG)—and during whose meetings with Russian experts, urged President Putin to lift the global “truth embargo” clamped down upon the releasing of any UFO issue to the public.

Among the most startling revelations made by PRG leader Bassett during his meetings with Russian experts, this report notes, was his providing conclusive evidence proving that Deputy Secretary of Defense Shanahan had begun declassifying once top-secret US military videos showing their fighter aircrafts encounters with unknown extraterrestrial aircraft—and whose US Navy pilots encountering these UFO’s were left stunned by the experience.

During the early days of the President Trump administration that saw great attention being paid to his picking General James “Mad Dog” Mattis to be his Secretary of Defense, this report details, the MoD, instead, focused all of their attention on Trump’s pick for Deputy Secretary of Defense as this position is the second highest in the Pentagon—and whose pick of Patrick Shanahan defied explanation at the time—but came into greater focus when it was realized that the US Navy F/A-18 fighter aircraft that had encountered these UFO’s were, in fact, built under the supervision of Shanahan.

Instead of having any US military and/or governmental management experience before being tapped by Trump to be the second-in-command at the Pentagon, this report explains, Shanahan, instead, spent his entire career as a mechanical engineer for Boeing—the maker of the F/A-18 variant used by the US Navy on their aircraft carriers—and whose engineering education was completed at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (known as MIT) where he studied the works and research of MIT’s most famous engineer John G. Trump—the uncle of President Trump most famous for his being the only person allowed to review the documents of the modern world’s greatest genius Nikola Tesla—and among whose research documents reviewed by Trump’s uncle, and now known by Shanahan, included those detailing how to electronically communicate with other worlds.

During his over 30-year career as Boeing’s top mechanical engineer working on classified aircraft projects for the US military, this report continues, Shanahan was frequently in contact with Nick Cook, who is the highly acclaimed and awarded aerospace consultant for Jane's Defense Weekly in London—a relationship that intensified, in 2001, after Cook published his book titled “The Hunt for Zero Point: Inside the Classified World of Antigravity Technology”—and that, by 2014, allowed Boeing to develop an anti-gravity propulsion system they named GRASP (stands for Gravity Research for Advanced Space Propulsion)—that Boeing can’t yet fully realize due to the MoD refusing to cooperate with them—but did enable Boeing, in 2016, to receive a secret US patent for their gravity chamber based on GRASP technology, the existence of, for reasons still unknown, Deputy Defense Secretary Shanahan ordered declassified this past March.

Most critical to note about what Cook documented in his book, and he relayed to Shanahan, this report explains, are the anti-gravity discoveries made by the Austrian engineer Viktor Schauberger during World War II—who believed that machines could be designed better so that they would be “going with the flow of nature” rather than against it—and one of whose projects was to produce for the German Nazis a flying machine, saucer shaped, that used a “vortex propulsion” system, as his theory was that if water or air is rotated into a twisting form of oscillation (known as a colloidal) a build-up of energy results, which, with immense power, can cause levitation.

In the aftermath of World War II, however, this report notes, all of Schauberger’s research, including his prototypes, were captured by both Soviet and Allied forces (as they were scattered among several German Nazi secret research sites), neither of whom have collaborated on them since—with Schauberger, though, in 1958, going to the United States in an attempt to retrieve what they possessed, but ended in his claiming they were stolen by the Americans, and who died within days of his returning home to Austria empty handed.

With it being historically documented that the exposure of what controls humanity lies in what the controllers did to two of humanity’s brightest stars, Nikola Tesla and Viktor Schauberger, this report continues, it goes without question that sometime in the recent past, Boeing engineer Shanahan, while heading his company’s classified anti-gravity research, would have reached out and contacted Donald Trump—as now President Trump still controls the access to his family’s archives containing the research his uncle John Trump did on Tesla’s documents.

In understanding the full history of Shanahan, therefore, this report says, it becomes readily apparent why Trump tapped him to be the second most powerful person in the US military—and since his becoming Deputy Secretary of Defense, has seen Shanahan being the Pentagon's biggest booster for Trump's proposal for a separate Space Force, which is now in its final stages before going to the US Congress in early 2019—and that now, also, sees Shanahan being the Pentagon's point person in this effort, which remains unpopular in many US military quarters.

Speaking for the “US military quarters” opposing President Trump’s and Deputy Secretary of Defense Shanahan’s planned Space Force, this report details, was Secretary of Defense Mattis—who, in his 20 December resignation letter to Trump, cryptically alluded to America’s “unique and comprehensive system of alliances” he claimed “we cannot protect our interests” without—the most unique of being the long rumored alliance President  Dwight D. Eisenhower made with at least one alien race in 1954—and as confirmed as being true by his own great-grand-daughter, Laura Magdalene Eisenhower, who shockingly revealed that Eisenhower had actually negotiated with one alien race to obtain technology from them in exchange for the aliens being allowed to abduct a few humans for research purposes with no real harm coming to the test subjects.

The publically known details about this US-alien alliance, this report notes, is that on the night and early hours of 20-21 February 1954, while on a “vacation” to Palm Springs-California, President Eisenhower went missing and allegedly was taken to Edwards Air Force Base for a secret meeting—when he showed up the next morning at a church service in Los Angeles, reporters were told that he had to have emergency dental treatment the previous evening and had visited a local dentist—with this missing night and morning, however, said to have been when Eisenhower conducted a “First Contact” meeting with extraterrestrials, and that began of a series of meetings with different extraterrestrial races that led to a “treaty” that was eventually signed.

With it being historically documented that “Tesla scared the central bankers senseless…they knew what his plan meant…energy independence meant an almost complete loss of control of the people” and President Trump’s new Space Force posing a direct challenge to “Deep State” secrecy, this report concludes, it is no wonder why Trump is now facing the greatest assault on his presidency yet seen by his central bank controlled money elites—that in the past 24-hours alone has seen Trump’s Treasury Secretary frantically calling the top banks in America to make sure they’re protected from collapsing—top Trump officials convening their nation’s “Plunge Protection Team”, that’s only brought out in the gravest of economic market turmoil—and Trump himself asking his top advisors if he can outright fire his nation’s central bank chief—and that now has all of these malign forces battling against Trump knowing full well the grave significance of Mattis having just been thrown out of Pentagon and Shanahan taking full control—with all that remains to be seen now is if Trump will reveal the truth before the aliens do—the former being preferred by the MoD, as the latter will mean total global war.

Viktor Schauberger with Nikola Tesla—and now President Donald Trump and Deputy Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan—knew and know the truths to free humanity from bondage—they’re just too big and powerful for normal minds to comprehend, at least those in power like to believe.

NANUXII wrote:Anti gravity was being " offered " to certain factions in the mid 90's as a product. It is old tech , one of these factions rejected it because they had something better. What is cutting edge is a particle beam cannon designed to destroy molecules that contain moisture of any kind. It can be calibrated to target specific entities leaving others un touched. The new tech in the intel processor is a scaled down version operating on the 14nm band. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/silicon-innovations/intel-14nm-technology.html These new chips will be able to easily reverse the polarity of your TV and Computer screens to become a clear picture into your life., Not only that they can ( and have been able for a while now )  use your pc to generate certain frequencies to make you ill. The Gen 5 cell towers will eventually enact something similar to what we see on the first movie Kingsman , it is already in beta test here in oztralia and i see it happening every day. People are becoming increasingly combative every day. 2019 march approx you will see a definite increase in hostility between humans. Your best bet is to rid your self of any device made after 2009 while the ones previous can still be used against you , they have far less capability than the new tech. I wrote an article on how to heal your self after an attack, ill see if i can dig it out and post it here ? let me know if this is a good place to post it. I forgot to mention , when they get this tech down past the 10 Nm mark we are in real trouble. Im sure they already do with brain contol tech , its just not made it down to general tech. not yet.

NANUXII wrote:

This video is quite accurate. in 2011 i took photos on the border of Peru , i didnt see the photos till i got back  the, but they show a dark circle inside the sun. Every photo i took with the sun in the back ground showed the same thing. I thought it was a camera fault, until the camera stopped working ... the phone was fine but the camera all of a sudden wouldnt turn on ...  The circle somehow relates to the arctic poles. The red skies correlates to an old Hopi Prophecy i learned of in the early 90's called " The Night of the Red Skies "  The prophecy states when the night sky is blood red the end of days is upon us.  It is part of our evolution to becoming part of a galactic family. Before we can enter this family we will be rid of all life not capable of accepting anything external. Unfortunately or fortunately ( depending on how you view it )  a lot of us will not make it.  Do not fear , make your mind up about the gods and find faith inside you , do not fear death , it is only the end of this time , not all time ... CAVEAT :   Im watching further into the video and i hear the man is making reference to Nibiru , i dont believe it is Nibiru , it is something else. perhaps it is holotech beta testing. One thing i do believe is factions on earth are trying to delay the enetering of a new energy which is waiting to the left and behind our moon. The new energy is a good thing , it will mean freedom. It is the enetring of the energy Aqarius & Isis , the sisters of Diana.

orthodoxymoron wrote:I'm incognito, but I'll make this brief-post, and delete it in a couple of hours. Think long and hard about the title of this thread (America Warned is Unprepared for Q and Trumps Cataclysmic Destruction of Deep State). What if Deep-State is Fundamentally Angel-Supercomputer Artificial-Intelligence?? "My God!! It's Full of Stars!!" I've mentioned this many-times BUT in the 1980's the Best and Brightest Theologians I observed in Loma Linda, CA, seemed to be catastrophically-devastated, while Dr. Robert H. Schuller, at the Crystal Cathedral, in Garden Grove, CA, seemed to be too gleeful, pompous, and supercilious. I spent too-much time in both-locations each and every week. I've repeatedly speculated that something profoundly-devastating occurred on September 11, 2001, which might've involved a hypothetical Deep-State Angel-Supercomputer Artificial-Intelligence Solar-System. What if the title of this thread spans 1925 to 2025 (in very-approximate figures)?? That's as specific as I wish to get. What if Fu@##$% with HAL 9000 might Fu#% the Whole Solar-System?? What if Nikola Tesla set a trap with technology he knew would be stolen (perhaps in the same way Cleopatra might've set a trap in the Library of Alexandria)?? 'RA' spoke with me concerning "Stolen-Technology". I honestly do NOT wish to speculate further in this area. I've thought about writing some Science-Fiction for formal-publication, but that option scares the hell out of me. Two aerospace individuals (not-connected, at very-different times and locations) who I conversed-with, and could've told me a lot, both died of cancer before they could tell me much. Coincidental?? Damned if I know.

...Surrounded By Completely-Ignorant Fools!!

Carol wrote:Is the US behind this or was it the Deep State? More likely the rogue Deep State and most likely one of the reasons Bolton was fired.

This is how and why the U.S. attacked China with the virus: 'Made in China 2025'
It's all about the 'Made in China 2025' initative.

China's design to take over large scale manufacturing including the aeronautical industry.
Read more here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/05/03/what-is-made-in-china-2025-and-why-is-it-a-threat-to-trumps-trade-goals/

What's the most important issue to Trump? The economy.

He couldn't allow 'Made in China 2025' to happen. It's too much of a danger to the U.S. bottom line. He couldn't have that.

The Harvard professor that was "arrested" by the U.S. recently for "secretly" working for the Chinese is a double agent. He designed and implemented nano transistors into a virus vaccine that is triggered by 5G signals. This was covertly placed in the new mandatory vaccine that was given to the Chinese. It is the ethnic bioweapon they're all dying from.

Here is info on him creating the virus sized nano transistor tech:

In a stunning twist to the Wuhan saga - Harvard Biological Expert who worked with Wuhan University ARRESTED via UNSEALED INDICTMENT!

In a shocking revelation made Tuesday afternoon - a revelation that will almost certainly rattle the US-China relationship at an already fragile time - a federal court unsealed indictments against Harvard professor and Chemistry Department Head Charles Lieber, along with two Chinese nationals. One is a Boston University researcher who was once a lieutenant in the People’s Liberation Army, according to prosecutors, and the second was a cancer researcher who tried to smuggle 21 vials of biological materials in his sock - allegedly. Lieber has been arrested...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/harvard-chemistry-chair-2-chinese-nationals-arrested-lying-about-china-ties-smuggling

The two Chinese lab workers kicked out of the Canada biolab are cover for the nano virus. The coronavirus they stole and took to China does cause infection and possible death but is not ethnically specific. It was dispersed as well, probably by the 300 U.S. soldiers that visited Wuhan sometime last year. This is to distract China from determining the actual attack parameters.

John Bolton is the one who directed this operation.

orthodoxymoron wrote:When I interacted with 'RA' (or whoever he really was) in 2010-11, 'RA' kept talking about the Sun and Something Bad from the Sky (in a somewhat threatening and mocking manner). The Sun has a Corona, and Chemtrails might be Something Bad from the Sky. 'RA' spoke of 87% of Humanity going insane if they learned the Truth. Another Individual of Interest spoke of 85% of Humanity perishing. Yet another Individual of Interest spoke of 80% perishing. Consider the Georgia Guide-Stones calling for a Human population of 500,000,000. On March 8, 2011, 'RA' told me, "You Found Out Something About Yourself. I'm Sorry We Couldn't Work Together. Too Much Water Has Gone Under the Bridge" three days prior to Fukushima. I hesitate to make posts like this, but I've attempted to be open and honest, regardless of the price I pay for doing so. I've suspected a mixture of Truth and Deception, so I've remained extremely tentative and low-key (unlike Alex Jones and Friends).

Swanny wrote:

I was in Bath today, normal Saturday with no one wearing masks

Watching that video in China reminds me of this game I used to play

Tom Clancy's The Division

 

"A devastating pandemic sweeps through New York City, and one by one, basic services fail. In only days, without food or water, society collapses into chaos. The Division, a classified unit of self-supported tactical agents, is activated. Leading seemingly ordinary lives among us, The Division agents are trained to operate independently of command, as all else fails. Fighting to prevent the fall of society, the agents will find themselves caught up in an epic conspiracy, forced to combat not only the effects of a manmade virus, but also the rising threat of those behind it. When everything collapses, your mission begins."

orthodoxymoron wrote:Admiral Swanny, you need to see the movie 'Contagion' if you haven't already. I watched it twice in two days. I suspect that most everyone and everything are part fact and part fiction. Who knows where the facts end, and the fiction begins?? 9/11 obviously occurred, but how did it occur and why did it occur?? The JFK assassination event occurred, but how did it occur and why did it occur?? God and the Bible are probably a mixture of fact and fiction. I'm a believer, but not a true-believer. The COVID-19 event is probably a mixture of fact and fiction. What if it is a cover-story for something MUCH worse?? The more I know, the more I don't want to know. Many are angry and envious of those at the top of the pyramid, yet if we rose to the top, we might not like the view. The Horror.

https://virusncov.com/

orthodoxymoron wrote:

mudra wrote:Oooh thank you Oxy. This is an unusual contribution from you that I really appreciate. I'll see if I am able to understand it as I am ear impaired and there is unfortunately no subtitle function for this particular video. It will depend on how clear the sound quality is. Thank you so much anyways

mudra

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Mudra. The video is an interview with Laura Knight-Jadczyk. Here is a Kerry Cassidy interview of Laura. I'm not a follower of anyone, and I'm extremely skeptical, despite my openness. I'm fascinated by Laura's voice and thinking. I'm thinking I've encountered this voice and thinking elsewhere, but I don't want to talk about it. Instead of delving deeper into the esoteric, I'm reverting to a concentrated and refined version of what I was exposed to, and programmed with, in my youth. I tend to think people who delve deeply get burned badly. This might be the Matrix at Work. We might be watched and reigned-in by HAL 9000 (or the ancient and modern equivalent). If this COVID-19 thing gets me, I should probably make my peace with the PTB in the SKY (if you know what I mean).

mudra wrote:I remember that interview Oxy. That was quite a long time ago over 10 years I would say. Make me wonder what we will be up to in the next 10 years to come. Its a miracle some of us are still around. May you find that peace you are striving for Oxy and Covid 19 spare you.

Love from me
mudra

Carol wrote:

In this Jan. 4, 2020, file photo, a health surveillance officer monitors passengers arriving at the Hong Kong International airport in Hong Kong. On Friday, Jan. 17, 2020, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention officials said they will begin screening airline passengers at three U.S. airports who traveled from Wuhan in central China, for a new illness that has prompted worries about a new international outbreak.

C-Virus:/ EX CDC:“HIGHLY LIKELY” PANDEMIC:P2167/Cruise infected X3 P2238/
I-PHONE To Produce Masks P2249/ CRUISE NEW JERSEY P2252
https://www.businessinsider.com/new-disease-virus-china-us-airports-screening-cdc-2020-1?international=true&r=US&IR=T

Travelers from China are being screened at US airports for a mysterious new virus that's killed 2 and sickened dozens

Passengers from China arriving in Los Angeles, San Francisco, and New York will be screened by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for a mysterious new virus that's killed two and sickened dozens in China.

The virus, which is similar to SARS and causes pneumonia-like symptoms, was identified late last year in Wuhan, China, a city 700 miles south of Beijing, and has been detected in Thailand and Japan.

Most of the patients are thought to have contracted the virus from animals, but person-to-person transmission appears to be possible, albeit less common.

U.S. and Global PANDEMIC Preparedness Planning

The suggested strategies contained in this document are aligned with the World Health Organization (WHO) phases of a pandemic. WHO has defined six phases, occurring before and during a pandemic, that are linked to the characteristics of a new influenza virus and its spread through the population (see Appendix 2. WHO Phases of a Pandemic/U.S. Government Stages of a Pandemic). This document specifically provides pre-pandemic planning guidance for the use of NPIs in WHO Phase 6. These phases are described below:

Inter-Pandemic Period

Phase 1: No new influenza virus subtypes have been detected in humans. An influenza virus subtype that has caused human infection may be present in animals. If present in animals, the risk of human disease is considered to be low.

Phase 2: No new influenza virus subtypes have been detected in humans. However, a circulating animal influenza virus subtype poses a substantial risk of human disease.

Pandemic Alert Period

Phase 3: Human infection(s) with a new subtype, but no human-to-human spread, or at most rare instances of spread to a close contact.

Phase 4: Small cluster(s) with limited human- to-human transmission but spread is highly localized, suggesting that the virus is not well adapted to humans.

Phase 5: Larger cluster(s) but human-to-human spread still localized, suggesting that the virus is becoming increasingly better adapted to humans, but may not yet be fully transmissible (substantial pandemic risk).

Pandemic Period

Phase 6: Pandemic phase: increased and sustained transmission in general population.

The WHO phases provide succinct statements about the global risk for a pandemic and provide benchmarks against which to measure global response capabilities. However, to describe the U.S. Government’s approach to the pandemic response, it is more useful to characterize the stages of an outbreak in terms of the immediate and specific threat a pandemic virus poses to the U.S. population.

The following stages provide a framework for Federal Government actions:

Stage 0: New Domestic Animal Outbreak in At- Risk Country
Stage 1: Suspected Human Outbreak Overseas
Stage 2: Confirmed Human Outbreak Overseas
Stage 3: Widespread Human Outbreaks in Multiple Locations
Stage 4: First Human Case in North America
Stage 5: Overseas Spread throughout United States
Stage 6: Recovery and Preparation for Subsequent Waves

Value of Partially Effective Layered Interventions

Pandemic mitigation strategies generally include 1) case containment measures, such as voluntary case isolation, voluntary quarantine of members of households with ill persons, and antiviral treatment/prophylaxis; 2) social distancing measures, such as dismissal of students from classrooms and social distancing of adults in the community and at work; and 3) infection control measures, including hand hygiene and cough etiquette. Each of these interventions may be only partially effective in limiting transmission when implemented alone.

Carol wrote:

https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-chinese-doctors-overwhelmed-sick-even-dying-2020-2

Thousands of Chinese doctors volunteered for the frontline of the coronavirus outbreak. They are overwhelmed, under-equipped, exhausted, and even dying.

The hard and dangerous work of battling China's coronavirus epidemic is being done mainly by the country's medics — many of whom live nowhere near the affected areas.

Reports, videos, and staff themselves have shown the scale of the problem: Supplies and protective gear are scarce, and the workload is enormous.

As many as 1,000 medical workers have themselves caught the virus while treating it. Several have died.

Li Wenliang, 34, who helped first raise the alarm about the coronavirus and was punished for it, died of the virus early Friday.
These are the sacrifices that China's medical workers have made, and continue to make.

Doctors and medical workers are feeling the toll of the deadly Wuhan coronavirus more than anybody except their patients.

As of Friday morning local time the virus, named after its epicenter in the central Chinese city of Wuhan, had killed 635 people and infected nearly 31,000. As many as 1,000 of those infected were medical workers.

Some workers who contracted the disease have died. More still are working in dire conditions, without the protection or resources they need to control an epidemic. Here is the situation on the ground:

Doctors in Wuhan, which was placed under a sweeping quarantine on January 24, have been faced with far more patients than they can handle.

About when the quarantine began, one doctor told BBC News: "The hospitals have been flooding with patients, there are thousands, I haven't seen so many before.

"I am scared because this is a new virus and the figures are alarming."

Early in the outbreak, scientists had not yet realized that the virus could spread from human to human. During that time, many doctors didn't wear protective gear.

On January 29, Business Insider's Will Martin reported that China had had deployed 4,130 medics from other parts of China to Hubei province, which contains Wuhan.

It was planning to increase the figure to 6,000, according to the country's National Health Commission.

Even with enough doctors, many hospitals were desperately short of supplies. This included protective gear for the medics.

"Many were not initially informed about the potential for people-to-person transmission, and even now we don't have enough protective gear, test kits, and other supplies," one Wuhan doctor told the South China Morning Post on January 24.

There were also too few testing kits for patients, making it hard to distinguish a coronavirus case from any other flu or cold.

Patients in Wuhan came to consider getting access to a testing kit as being like winning the lottery.

Some hospitals have been pleading for donations of supplies from ordinary people. A social-media post from the Wuhan Children's Hospital, cited by the BBC, said simply: "Medical supplies are in short supply - help!"

Some staff complained on social media that hospitals were even running out of food and drink.

As the outbreak has dragged on, China has pledged to commit even more people and resources. But there are still difficulties.
A New York Times article dated February 6 cited reports of shortages at a makeshift quarantine facility in Wuhan.

It said an exhibition center, converted to house patients, had inadequate heating, unreliable electricity, and evident shortages of medical staff and equipment.

The Times report said Chinese authorities were becoming more militant about stifling criticism of the government's response, making it harder to work out which places had shortages.

The unidentified doctor at the Wuhan No. 5 Hospital made an exasperated call to a supervisor, not long before the Lunar New Year.

He said he had just done four days' worth of work without a break, according to The Washington Post.

"I don't want to do this job any more. Just fire me! Kick me out, send me back home," he said.

"Don't I want to go home to celebrate the new year? Don't we want to live, too?"

Working conditions have been desperate. Some doctors resorted to wearing adult diapers because they had too little time to even use the bathroom.

The precautions do not always work. Posts on Chinese social media suggest that as many as 1,100 medical workers have caught the virus — almost one in 30 of the total case load.

Li caught the virus while treating patients in Wuhan for weeks. He died at about 4 a.m. local time on February 7.

His loss was all the more painful because Li had tried to raise awareness of the virus early on but was punished by officials who wanted to suppress the news.

In December, when the virus was just being discovered, Li alerted a group of alumni from his medical school.

But he was taken in by the police in Wuhan and forced to sign a letter acknowledging he was "making false comments" about the burgeoning epidemic.

After his death, tributes to Li went viral on China's Weibo social-media network, despite the strict censorship in the country.

The virus continues to spread rapidly.

Carol wrote:

Illuminati Warning From 1994, Apocalyptic Plague - Stephen King's "The Stand"
- Full Movie - almost 6 hours

Investigate how the Global Elite strive relentlessly to form a One World Government, pulling the strings of deception through manipulation of the media and mechanisms that control our very thoughts and actions.

If you know anything at all about the workings of the Illuminati, you must surely know that they virtually always hide their “secrets” in plain sight. They do this as a sign of their power to the illuminated ones, and also as a great cosmic joke at the expense of the public (or robots as they are condescendingly referred to!) because they know that the vast majority of people are too “dim” to pick up on it.

All the clues are right under everyone’s noses and always have been. The people have only to open their eyes. An example is the very “3172″ you referred to at the end of the first response. It’s a numerical anagram of the 17/23 correlation.

Secondly, this is also an ideal way to protect itself. Anyone who is perceptive enough to figure out what is going on is immediately branded a crackpot theorist and censured by the public, or worse, a paranoid schizophrenic and is thereby censured by the state, i.e. hospitalized, where Illuminati trained operatives have special techniques designed to actually drive the person insane.

orthodoxymoron wrote:Here is a Bill Ryan video from 2010 regarding a supposed 2005 Top-Level Masonic-Meeting in the City of London, with the participants laughing that "China Would Catch a Cold" (at 3:20). 'RA' invited me to join the Masons in 2010 (the year we made contact) and told me, "Humanity is Screwed." I Declined. On March 8, 2011, 'RA' told me, "You Found Out Something About Yourself. I'm Sorry We Couldn't Work Together. Too Much Water Has Gone Under the Bridge" (three days prior to Fukushima). In 2016, an Elderly Mason (in a Masonic-Cemetery) told me 85 percent of humanity would perish (but he didn't provide dates or details). An Individual of Interest said the figure was probably 80 percent. I suspect that a One World (or Solar System) Government has existed for thousands (if not millions) of years, but what do I know?? I doubt they are setting-up World-Government. I suspect they're simply informing us of our predicament as they tighten the noose. I SO Hope I'm Wrong. Hope Springs Eternal.

orthodoxymoron wrote:I'm not going to push this, but consider 'False-Flag' just about everything, including the Coronavirus. Consider this link (but I don't want to talk about it): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731 What if 'Stolen-Technology' was intended to be stolen and used in a 'False-Flag' manner?? At a young-age I encountered the concept of a 'Death-Row Prisoner' being given a poison-pill and a glass of water each day until they got so tired of life that they took the pill, thus executing themselves. That's probably irrelevant, but it's worth thinking about for a few seconds. More seriously, what if everyone (except for a chosen group) is infected with a deadly-virus which remains dormant for several years before performing its dastardly deed?? A DUMB wouldn't protect one from such a fate. Do You See What I Mean?? Some of you Agency-Types might wish to listen to all the Sherry Shriner shows you can find (taking notes). They're probably mostly crackpot stuff, yet she seemed to have some sort of an inside-track on really horrific and disturbing topics. Some of you know what I'm talking about, but I don't want to talk about it. I've had more than enough, and most of you have had more than enough of me. Silence is Golden. Namaste, Godspeed, and Geronimo.

I worry constantly about 'Secret Laboratories' Throughout the Universe. I'm currently imagining the Universe to be 'Compartmentalized Solar-System Soul-Supercomputer Artificial-Intelligence Matrix-Mediatrix Managed' to possibly attempt to create 'Order Out of Chaos'. However, it seems impossible to know the True State of Affairs (here or elsewhere). I guess that's why I just muddle along with my pseudo-intellectual Religious and Political Science-Fiction, without making a Big-Deal about it, and without making a Fast-Buck. What Would Jupiter Do?? "I Hate My Life." What Would Paul Say?? "O Wretched Man That I Am." What Would David Bowman Say?? "My God!! It's Full of Stars!!" Who Are You Going to Call?? Peter Venkman?? What Would Alan Rickman Say?? "I Am the Metatron!!" By the Way, "Do You Know the Way to San Jose??"

Carol wrote:Simon Parks has some interesting comments about the 5G in these areas. First he said it was made in the US during the Bush Jr. years. Then he said the hope was by exposing China's population to intense 5G that the radiation would mutate the virus so that it wouldn't be so virulent. Yet went onto say that the 5G would likely kill people but they could claim it was the virus that killed them. His was an interesting perspective.

orthodoxymoron wrote:What if the Coronavirus originated in WWII (or shortly thereafter) in Unit 731 (or its postwar equivalent)?? What if 5G activates the Coronavirus?? Or, what if 5G creates the Coronavirus?? Chemtrails > 5G > Coronavirus??

burgundia wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:

mudra wrote:Oxy yes "what if" . but so what ? How would  that help solve the problem or alleviate it in any ways ?

Love from me
mudra

Who Did It?? How Did They Do It?? Why Did They Do It?? This is Fundamental to Solving a Crime, Achieving Justice, and Preventing Future Criminal Activities.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2016/10/25/10-24-16-monday-night-with-sherry-shriner

http://www.wsj.com/articles/smuggling-truth-past-the-censors-1477523888

Smuggling Truth Past the Censors

Yan Lianke’s burlesque of a nation driven insane by money is
equally a satire of some of the excesses of the Chinese Revolution.

by
Sam Sacks

Secret-Entrance to 600 Square-Foot Office-Apartment!!
(It's Bigger On the Inside Than It Is On the Outside!!)

A Completely Ignorant Fool in a DUMB in The United Kingston??

"I'm NOT That Talented!!"

Carol wrote:

Coronavirus is US psychological warfare operation: Ex-US military officer
Thursday, March 12, 2020 6:21

Since the novel coronavirus outbreak began in China last December, it has infected more than 90,000 people globally and killed more than 3,000. The majority of cases and deaths remain in mainland China.

The death toll from the coronavirus in Iran, which has one of the highest numbers outside China, stood at 107, Health Ministry spokesman Kianush Jahanpur said Thursday, Presstv Reported.

Scott Bennett said that “this is a fabricated psychological operation that has been coordinated with an actual physical sickness to spread fear, panic and intimidation in the Chinese economic markets with the purpose of isolating China and disrupting the Chinese-Russian-Iranian economic, military alliance that we’ve seen in their patrols in the Persian Gulf, and their solidarity in the defense of Syria from the… regimes of Recep Erdogan and Turkey, Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia, and Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israeli Zionist state, and the purpose was to create a disruption that would fracture this alliance for Western exploitation.”

“The safest and best explanation is to see this as a exploited psychological operation designed to so panic intimidation and also open up doors for ‘aid and immune vaccination development,’ which may in fact lead to more harm than good. Remember the West and the (US) Deep State is inundated with a lot of these big pharmaceutical companies that generate vaccines that do nothing except cause more harm and more cancerous debilitation on the human body for the purposes of profit and exploitation,” he added.

“So the coronavirus I think, is developing into a lot of smoke but with no fire and the amount of people who die from traditional flus and sicknesses actually seed the coronavirus explanations,” he noted.

“So this is something that could be attempted to cause major economic and political uprising in the world, but in that sense it should be ignored largely and isolated and kept from causing political social disturbances in countries such as Iran, which are being targeted increasingly, with information warfare and psychological operations,” he observed.

“This is the time to of course treat the coronavirus like it could be an actual physical debilitating sickness and take all precautionary measures, but at the same time, not overreact to the point where the national psyche is traumatized or regime change, color revolutions or other typical Western instrumentalities for forced political revolution is allowed to be triggered. So this is a safer way to understand the corona viruses through the lens of an information operations perspective,” he concluded.

Source: http://french.presstv.com/Detail/2020/03/05/620203/Coronavirus-is-US-psychological-warfare-operation

Carol wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8103677/Doctor-battling-coronavirus-shares-daily-symptoms-social-media.html

Doctor battling coronavirus shares his daily symptoms on social media
A doctor who has been diagnosed with coronavirus has given an honest insight into the disease's daily symptoms on social media.

Dr. Yale Tung Chen, 35, from Spain, who caught the infection while he was treating patients at Hospital Universitario La Paz in Madrid, has been sharing his experiences battling the illness with the pubic.

The emergency physician has been sharing ultrasound scans of his lungs and listing his daily symptoms in an attempt to give the world a glimpse of how the illness takes over the body. The doctor, who has been documenting his body pains as he remains in quarantine at his home, first became unwell at the end of his shift.

'Day 1 sore throat, dry cough & headache.'

He continued: 'Day 2 after #COVID diagnosis. Less sore throat, cough & headache (thank God!), still no shortness of breath or pleuritic chest pain. #POCUS update: small bilateral pleural effusion, thickened pleural line & basal b-lines (plaps).

He added: 'Day 3 after #COVID diagnosis. No sore throat/headache. Yesterday was cough day, still no shortness of breath/chest pain.

'Diarrhea started, lucky cough got better. #POCUS update: similar effusion, seems less thickened pleural line + no b-lines (PLAPS). #mycoviddiary.'

The Spanish doctor told LBC News: 'At the end of the shift, I started to feel unwell. In that moment, I wondered if it could be coronavirus, but did not have any epidemiological contacts to justify my fear.'

In an effort to shield his wife and children from 'the slightest threat, the doctor set about getting tested and was soon told he had tested positive for the virus.

He continued: 'From that moment on, I had myself isolated in a room in my house, and avoided any contact with anybody in the house.

'That is probably the most anxious part - to not be able to be with my family, my kids, at this moment.'

The doctor's online diary comes after a German study revealed that patients with the infection are the most contagious before severe symptoms appear and can even spread it after they recover from the infection.

Researchers from the Bundeswehr Institute of Microbiology in Munich found samples taken from the nose and throat of COVID-19 patients showed a very high viral load when the subjects were only showing minor symptoms.

Elsewhere, U.S. government scientists, who worked with other experts, have found the virus can live on surfaces for up to three days.

Tests by researchers showed that the virus can survive on copper for four hours, cardboard for an entire day and up to 72 hours on plastic and steel.

Symptoms for the virus, which are similar to that if the cold and flu, include a cough, fever, high temperature and shortness of breath and fatigue.

Most people infected with the virus will only become mildly ill, but it can turn serious, especially for those who are older or have underlying health conditions.

If the virus progresses patients can begin to display rapid or shallow breathing, potentially with yellow, green or bloody mucus, nausea and vomiting, pain when breathing and confusion.

On Wednesday, President Donald Trump imposed a 30-day ban on most Europeans entering the United States and sparked 'bedlam' at airports across Europe.

The American leader declared the ban would come into effect at 'midnight' on Friday in an effort to slow down the progression of the virus which has now been declared as a pandemic.

The White House said the travel restrictions would apply to foreign nationals who have visited 26 European countries - but excluding the UK and Ireland - in the past 14 days.

It comes after the number of reported cases of coronavirus in the U.S. rose to 1,315 and the number of deaths hit 38 as of Thursday morning, with some 366 of those cases and 29 deaths reported in the Washington state.

With around 4,600 people having died so far worldwide, many U.S. states have been limiting travel and putting in place 'social distancing measures' to limit contact between people.

In Spain, 2,277 have been infected with the virus and 55 have died.

After sharing his experiences with the public, social media users have been rushing to the platform to offer their support
Meanwhile in Britain the number of cases rose to 456, with 83 more patients having been hit with the deadly infection.

Recent statistics revealed 387 cases had been located in England, 36 in patients in Scotland, 16 in Northern Ireland and 15 in Wales.

The virus, which initially saw millions of residents and tourists in China put on lock down to contain the spread, has now been transmitted between humans in 30 countries across Europe, including Spain, Germany and France, according to the World Health Organization.

In Italy, the infection has seen more than 10,000 affected and resulted in 631 deaths, with the country now placing 60 million in an unprecedented lock-down to contain the escalating outbreak.

The total confirmed infections in Europe have risen to 23,339 with 951 deaths, according to a new tally which is compiled from official sources.

Meanwhile in China, which is home to 1.4 billion people, the number of cases have risen to 80,969, with the number of confirmed fatalities hitting 3,158.

Tom Hanks and his wife Rita Wilson have coronavirus: Sixty-three-year-old actor announces they have caught the virus while filming in Australia and describes how it gave them 'chills and body aches'

orthodoxymoron wrote:

Carol wrote:Oxy may try to stay in the shadows but he shines so brightly that his light just keeps slipping out on a regular basis. What would the Mists be without Oxy? He's our own personal Scribe who adds an entirely different dimension - or should I say multiple dimensions to our awareness. I would never even dream to think of some of the things he comes up with. His posts are not only educational, their thought provoking and expands ones way of looking at the world. So many unanswered questions that can take ones perception in so many divergent directions. That in itself is a true experience in self-exploration. And what amazes me the most is how he remembers all of this stuff and manages to keep it all straight. Thank you Oxy for hanging in here with us and continually pointing out different ways of looking at things that only you can do.

Thank-you Carol. The problem is that I'm still searching for the truth, and I don't know who or what to believe, so I'm reduced to being a Noble-Agnostic with Responsible-Neutrality. Andy's posts make my hair stand on-end. I never know who I'm really dealing with (online or in real-life). I feel like a fake, mostly because of all the modeling and speculating based-upon my past-programming, online-research, contact with Individuals of Interest, and my claim of being 'messed-with'. I continue to suspect a central being and/or computer playing all-sides, making everyone think they're special or chosen when they're just being deceived and played like everyone else. The lie is different at every level. I'll be watching and listening while I attempt to remain unseen and unheard. I feel sort of ridiculous. I think I've been had in so many ways. I might be a 'gullible good-guy' with 'bad-guy past-lives'. I just hope the circumstances justified any iniquities. I hope galactic-jurisprudence is ethical and effective long-term. Hope Springs Eternal.

Carol wrote:Start with focusing on what makes you happy. Your cup of coffee in the morning and work from there.