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    S. Malachy , Ratzinger , King Oedipus and FATE

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    Post  enemyofNWO Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:31 am

    S. Malachy , Ratzinger , King Oedipus and FATE


    There is a subtle difference between FATE and DESTINY .
    FATE Greek definition :
    inescapability of the course of events . Not even the gods could change Fate .
    Fate is about events that will happen no matter what .

    DESTINY Greek definition :
    something that will happen or has happened but over which you have some control and can change the outcome .

    In the play of Oedipous King , Sophocles shows the inevitability of FATE .
    Fate is written in stone , it is as if it has already happened , but we are incapable of perceiving it . In the video below the author recounts how Ratzinger and his electors seem to have taken care to avoid what was predicted by the S. Malachy , but when the new pope selected his new name "Benedict " the prophesy became fulfilled . In King Oedipus the Oracle prediction that Oedipus would kill his father and marry his mother is fulfilled despite vane attempts to change his destiny .
    To predict the exact pope 112 times, if it is true , is an enormous achievement that without doubt describes a Future that was already written and is impossible to escape . It does not matter if a person uses free will to try to escape his fate , fate will always prevail .
    So when people tell us that " you can become whatever you want " and "you can change your future " , the reality is that , at best , "free will " can only cause limited change of destiny .
    but fate is unchangeable .

    The Last Pope? A Look At The St. Malachy Prophecy

    http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2013/02/the-last-pope-a-look-at-the-st-malachy-prophecy-2444764.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oedipus_the_King

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    Post  magamud Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:48 am

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    Post  Brook Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:42 am

    enemyofNWO wrote:S. Malachy , Ratzinger , King Oedipus and FATE


    There is a subtle difference between FATE and DESTINY .
    FATE Greek definition :
    inescapability of the course of events . Not even the gods could change Fate .
    Fate is about events that will happen no matter what .

    DESTINY Greek definition :
    something that will happen or has happened but over which you have some control and can change the outcome .

    In the play of Oedipous King , Sophocles shows the inevitability of FATE .
    Fate is written in stone , it is as if it has already happened , but we are incapable of perceiving it . In the video below the author recounts how Ratzinger and his electors seem to have taken care to avoid what was predicted by the S. Malachy , but when the new pope selected his new name "Benedict " the prophesy became fulfilled . In King Oedipus the Oracle prediction that Oedipus would kill his father and marry his mother is fulfilled despite vane attempts to change his destiny .
    To predict the exact pope 112 times, if it is true , is an enormous achievement that without doubt describes a Future that was already written and is impossible to escape . It does not matter if a person uses free will to try to escape his fate , fate will always prevail .
    So when people tell us that " you can become whatever you want " and "you can change your future " , the reality is that , at best , "free will " can only cause limited change of destiny .
    but fate is unchangeable .

    The Last Pope? A Look At The St. Malachy Prophecy

    http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2013/02/the-last-pope-a-look-at-the-st-malachy-prophecy-2444764.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oedipus_the_King


    Potentiality and actuality


    In philosophy, Potentiality and Actuality are principles of a dichotomy which Aristotle used throughout his philosophical works to analyze motion, causality, ethics, and physiology in his Physics, Metaphysics, Ethics and De Anima (which is about the human psyche).

    The concept of potentiality, in this context, generally refers to any "possibility" that a thing can be said to have. Aristotle did not consider all possibilities the same, and emphasized the importance of those that become real of their own accord when conditions are right and nothing stops them. Actuality, in contrast to potentiality, is the motion, change or activity that represents an exercise or fulfillment of a possibility, when a possibility becomes real in the fullest sense.

    These concepts, in modified forms, remained very important into the middle ages, influencing the development of medieval theology in several ways. Going further into modern times, while the understanding of nature (and, according to some interpretations, deity) implied by the dichotomy lost importance, the terminology has found new uses, developing indirectly from the old. This is most obvious in words like "energy" and "dynamic" (words brought into modern physics by Leibniz) but also in examples such as the biological concept of an "entelechy".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potentiality_and_actuality


    And Intention.....



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    Post  Carol Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:15 am

    Sometimes as an observer I just allow things to unfold. Just imagine sitting at the beach watching the waves crash in upon the shore and then recede. Other times, using intention, I participate and go body surfing - hence, quantum entanglement. Huge Grin


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    Post  magamud Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:29 am

    Good post Brook, thanks.

    Its strange how Myth could be the deliver of truth in our time. It can travel through aeons and still deliver a message. Our conventional means of communications, architecture, written word, art nor lore could sustain its integrity through time. Quite a good time machine imho...
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    Post  enemyofNWO Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:45 am

    Carol wrote:Sometimes as an observer I just allow things to unfold. Just imagine sitting at the beach watching the waves crash in upon the shore and then recede. Other times, using intention, I participate and go body surfing - hence, quantum entanglement. Huge Grin


    CAROL,

    Quote
    " THE OBSERVER EFFECT

    Fundamental to contemporary Quantum Theory is the notion that there is no phenomenon until it is observed. This effect is known as the 'Observer Effect'. 1

    The implications of the 'Observer Effect' are profound because, if true, it means that before anything can manifest in the physical universe it must first be observed. Presumably observation cannot occur without the pre-existence of some sort of consciousness to do the observing. The Observer Effect clearly implies that the physical Universe is the direct result of 'consciousness'.

    This notion has a striking resemblance to perennial esoteric theory which asserts that all phenomena are the result of the consciousness of a single overlighting Creative Principle or the Mind of God.

    There is a delicious irony in all this. Contemporary Western scientific theory postulates that human consciousness is solely a result of the workings of a physical brain, yet if the observer effect is correct, the physical matter comprising a brain cannot come into existence until it is the subject of observation by some pre-existing consciousness. "

    NOTE: For an excellent introduction to Quantum Physics in laymen's terms see:


    http://www.vision.net.au/~apaterson/science/observer_effect.htm


    BROOK ,

    Not by chance textbooks of Electronics / Physics refer to the unit of measurement called VOLT as an electric potential . WE have an electric potential in our brain too .
    Back on the FATE and DESTINY discussion , we are dealing with phenomena that are beyond our control in many instances ......... take for example the case that you are victim of stalking from a government agency . Focusing on the criminals to go away ... doesn't make it happen ....... wishful thinking remains just that .

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    Post  Brook Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:11 pm

    enemyofNWO wrote:


    BROOK ,

    we are dealing with phenomena that are beyond our control in many instances ......... take for example the case that you are victim of stalking from a government agency . Focusing on the criminals to go away ... doesn't make it happen ....... wishful thinking remains just that .


    Hence the Ball of Confusion....

    Back on the FATE and DESTINY discussion , we are dealing with phenomena that are beyond our control in many instances .........

    Yes...I've dealt with that "fate" factor and the phenomena attached a time or two....quite recently as a matter of fact.
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    Post  magamud Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:40 pm

    The confusion is when to not get involved and just observe.
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    Post  enemyofNWO Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:07 am

    Amazing stuff ! Is the future written in STONE and cannot be changed ?

    Russian Meteor Predicted By Dick Allgire, HI RV Guild - PDF


    http://rense.com/general95/Russian_Meteor_Event.pdf

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