11/16/2011 — Moon verified to be out of place — ‘Lunar Anomaly’ — Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis would have to be 30AU

A recent analysis of a Lunar Laser Ranging (LLR) data record spanning 38.7 yr revealed an anomalous increase of the eccentricity e of the lunar orbit amounting to ? yr-1. The present-day models of the dissipative phenomena occurring in the interiors of both the Earth and the Moon are not able to explain it. In this paper, we examine several dynamical effects, not modelled in the data analysis, in the framework of long-range modified models of gravity and of the standard Newtonian/Einsteinian paradigm. It turns out that none of them can accommodate ?. Many of them do not even induce long-term changes in e; other models do, instead, yield such an effect, but the resulting magnitudes are in disagreement with ?. In particular, the general relativistic gravitomagnetic acceleration of the Moon due to the Earth’s angular momentum has the right order of magnitude, but the resulting Lense-Thirring secular effect for the eccentricity vanishes. A potentially viable Newtonian candidate would be a trans-Plutonian massive object (Planet X/Nemesis/Tyche) since it, actually, would affect e with a non-vanishing long-term variation. On the other hand, the values for the physical and orbital parameters of such a hypothetical body required to obtain at least the right order of magnitude for ? are completely unrealistic: suffices it to say that an Earth-sized planet would be at 30 au, while a jovian mass would be at 200 au. Thus, the issue of finding a satisfactorily explanation for the anomalous behaviour of the Moon’s eccentricity remains open. http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2011MNRAS.415.1266I

A recent analysis of a Lunar Laser Ranging (LLR) data record spanning 38.7 yr revealed an anomalous increase of the eccentricity of the lunar orbit amounting to de/dt_meas = (9 +/- 3) 10^-12 yr^-1. The present-day models of the dissipative phenomena occurring in the interiors of both the Earth and the Moon are not able to explain it. We examine several dynamical effects, not modeled in the data analysis, in the framework of long-range modified models of gravity and of the standard Newtonian/Einsteinian paradigm. It turns out that none of them can accommodate de/dt_meas. Many of them do not even induce long-term changes in e; other models do, instead, yield such an effect, but the resulting magnitudes are in disagreement with de/dt_meas. In particular, the general relativistic gravitomagnetic acceleration of the Moon due to the Earth's angular momentum has the right order of magnitude, but the resulting Lense-Thirring secular effect for the eccentricity vanishes. A potentially viable Newtonian candidate would be a trans-Plutonian massive object (Planet X/Nemesis/Tyche) since it, actually, would affect e with a non-vanishing long-term variation. On the other hand, the values for the physical and orbital parameters of such a hypothetical body required to obtain the right order of magnitude for de/dt are completely unrealistic. Moreover, they are in neat disagreement with both the most recent theoretical scenarios envisaging the existence of a distant, planetary-sized body and with the model-independent constraints on them dynamically inferred from planetary motions. Thus, the issue of finding a satisfactorily explanation for the anomalous behavior of the Moon's eccentricity remains open.

Wonder Why The Public Isn't Being Told About This, why the media blackout Is This Not IMPORTANT ?

If the Moon does not Rotate And the Sun is always at the centre of our little corner of the Universe

What does this say about the orbit of The Earth, it's Rotation ? Something Strange & Unusual has happened Or is Happening !

Our Governments Are Not Telling Us No Change there then !

The Sun has been in the wrong place for the last 2 years that I've/We have noticed, and is lower on the Southern horizon again this winter, this we know & and can tell from our roof shadow cast in our north facing garden.! Here, the Sun is almost as low as it would be around Mid December that's 4 weeks or so out of sync !

Many good friends have confirmed their observations of the Sun in that, around the globe, we are definitely receiving the Sun's Rays from a differing angle over the past 2 years or so, this then helps us to understand my Moon observations as being in step with some form of Change within Our Galaxy....

We have confirmation in another video ( In My Favs) some positive viewers observations, and some contradictions, which is what we expect on any issue., thanks for taking part.

As Reported by many friends from differing parts of the globe, the Sun Has been "off track" for at least 2 years..

I'd like to offer these few lines ..

1 .. From around the globe, folk agree that the Sun Is Not doing it's usual thing, reports going back two years tell us this ... anyone looking for a change in tidal patterns would have to look back in time to find any change, when the Earth must have tilted.
There was a suspected "Tilt" of 3 degrees or so following the Tsunami of 2004.

Images of our Moon at this time show without doubt that: it has rotated slightly ! Why? .. Has something smashed into it ??? our friend from Hawaii https://www.youtube.com/mrgalleria
observes a strange secondary glow about the Moon, which could be "Ejecta" from the bombing a while back?.. as well as capturing Similar images to mine !**

2 .. As the Sun is out of it's trajectory, this indicates that the Earth has Tilted slightly.

3 .. The Moon does not spin & certainly not on an north east to south west axis ! Though it rotates once in every revolution around the Earth, Thus, We Always see the same face, well we used to that is.!

4 .. The position of the Sun & Moon combine to create our ocean's tidal patterns

5 .. If the distance between the Sun, Moon & Earth remains the same a good guess would be that tides would have changed slightly allowing for Earth's slight Tilting. Then settling.

6 .. Tidal observations show that: In 2008 all around the globe there Were "Unusual & Unexplained Tidal Changes" many low & high tides in a short space of time on the same day !!.

7 .. Does anyone KNOW the date the Earth Tilted ? .. Without a doubt, it was more than 2 years ago !

The Earth orbits the Sun in an elliptical orbit being closest to it on 3rd January 2011 in this cycle.

I could not find one image on the internet that shows the Same image as captured here in This video.

If anyone can find an image please Do Post the URL for All to see.

Google "Waxing Gibbous Moon November 19 2010" search out the images, not Phase calendar, as these do not show the Moon's Features in the main.
Remember, I'm talking FEATURES, Not the Terminator Shadow Line
Peace.

Moon Orbit Wrong Cornell University associate Lorenzo Lorio, Has Researched i'm sure because of public outcry & observations made by You, my Friends, Visitors & others on the Internet and Concluded that Indeed there Is Something Wrong With The Sun Moon & Earth. Taking into account a possible Planet X Saying, "A potentially viable Newtonian candidate would be a trans-Plutonian massive object like Planet X" Cornell University tells us that:

Quote: "On the anomalous secular increase of the eccentricity of the orbit of the Moon. The present-day models of the dissipative phenomena occurring in the interiors of both the Earth and the Moon are not able to explain it. A recent analysis ( Prior1st Feb 2011 (Netlethe) ) of a Lunar Laser Ranging (LLR) data record spanning 38.7 yrs, revealed an anomalous increase of the eccentricity of the lunar orbit.

A potentially viable Newtonian candidate would be a trans-Plutonian massive object (Planet X/Nemesis/Tyche) since it, actually, would affect e with a non-vanishing long-term variation. " Unquote.

I have noticed an unusual glow from the moon recently. Is some nearby object casting infrared, ultraviolet, or other unseen light on the moon? Could the moon's surface be reacting to this light much the same as a black-light reacts with some surfaces?

Is the moon and/or earth shifting it's angle, or changing tilt of it's axis?

Remember when some us were concerned about this at the beginning of the year? We won't know if this will or will not happen in our life time. Meanwhile, it just wise to learn how to grow one's own food and have some fun with seeds and dirt.

Is the pole shift upon us?

From February 2011 http://www.salem-news.com/articles/february042011/global-superstorms-ta.php

Feb-04-2011
Magnetic Polar Shifts Causing Massive Global Superstorms
Terrence Aym Salem-News.com

(CHICAGO) - NASA has been warning about it…scientific papers have been written about it…geologists have seen its traces in rock strata and ice core samples…

Now "it" is here: an unstoppable magnetic pole shift that has sped up and is causing life-threatening havoc with the world's weather.

Forget about global warming—man-made or natural—what drives planetary weather patterns is the climate and what drives the climate is the sun's magnetosphere and its electromagnetic interaction with a planet's own magnetic field.

When the field shifts, when it fluctuates, when it goes into flux and begins to become unstable anything can happen. And what normally happens is that all hell breaks loose.

Magnetic polar shifts have occurred many times in Earth's history. It's happening again now to every planet in the solar system including Earth.

The magnetic field drives weather to a significant degree and when that field starts migrating superstorms start erupting.

The superstorms have arrived

The first evidence we have that the dangerous superstorm cycle has started is the devastating series of storms that pounded the UK during late 2010.

On the heels of the lashing the British Isles sustained, monster storms began to lash North America. The latest superstorm — as of this writing — is a monster over the U.S. that stretched across 2,000 miles affecting more than 150 million people.

Yet even as that storm wreaked havoc across the Western, Southern, Midwestern and Northeastern states, another superstorm broke out in the Pacific and closed in on Australia.

The southern continent had already dealt with the disaster of historic superstorm flooding from rains that dropped as much as several feet in a matter of hours. Tens of thousands of homes were damaged or destroyed. After the deluge tiger sharks were spotted swimming between houses in what was once a quiet suburban neighborhood.

Shocked authorities now numbly concede that much of the water may never dissipate and have wearily resigned themselves to the possibility that region will now contain a new inland sea.

But then only a handful of weeks later another superstorm; the megamonster cyclone Yasi, struck northeastern Australia. The damage it left in its wake is being called by rescue workers a war zone.

The incredible superstorm packed winds near 190mph. Although labeled as a category-5 cyclone, it was theoretically a category-6. The reason for that is storms with winds of 155mph are considered category-5, yet Yasi was almost 22 percent stronger than that.

I've been trying to think of planets, moons, and asteroids as very possibly being spaceships, which might have huge antigravity devices, allowing them to be moved wherever desired. I continue to desire the refinement and reformation of this solar system, which might involve some sort of solar system exorcism, but I'd prefer that this sort of thing be orderly and non-violent. I'd also prefer that the planets, moons, and even asteroids, remain within this solar system, especially if they have been outfitted and improved with tax-money, drug-money, stolen-money, blood-money, and slave-labor. I'm frankly afraid of the 'regressives' - but I'm also afraid of us. Sometimes I'm not sure who might be worse! We might prevent a final jihad, and save the human race, only to descend from purgatory into hell, because we are too stupid to get along with each other.

you are 100%right humanety will fight allways because people are greedy and jealous
All the best sabina

Carol,

I remember you brought this up on a previous thread somewhere, and I said that it was just the orbit of the moon combined with the tilt of the earth. But the evidence is building up and I would now, after having more info on the matter take back what I said and re-examine the thing again.

Are we going through pole shift? Well we go through a poleshift permenantly. It never really stops. If we look at the earth through energeic eyes so we can see through the earth. The earth has 7 layers of energy matricies. 3 in the inner section the core etc one on the surface and 3 in the atmosphere. When the inner pole shifts it does not mean that the outer or surface matricies shift. It is like a clock and takes a long time for each shift to shift the next stage then the next. After 180-210,000 yrs a shift does a complete turn and the surface matricies shift. Each wave takes about 4300 yrs to complete. If you look at this video which is the history of the inner magnetic field over the past 10 000 yrs you will see that between 5 and 4 thousand yrs ago the shift took place. That means it will pass through the surface layer pretty much now.


If that is the case and the other layers are also on their last wave. The system will lock when all layers are reach and the pole reversal will happen. But now is the question of magnetic or physical. The thing with physical is that if our planet did a physical it would make that much difference. The earth would still spiin the same way and things would appear to be very normal apart from south being north etc. But if it was to do both then the perverbial excrement would hit the fan.

Anyway I know very little on planet X and that could be the deciding factor.

Great times to be alive,

t

You have me intrigued Lawlessline. A little off-subject here but when you say "If we look at the earth through energetic eyes so we can see through the earth", are you saying you can do this? If so, you can answer the question that's been raised here and elsewhere as to whether the Earth is hollow! Can you? And if so, is it?

The Lunar eccentricity variance is an effect of an intrinsic cosmic acceleration component of the dark energy and is related to an observed anomalous beviour of the pioneer space probes


The lunar eccentricity variation relates to the well known and published acceleration (towards the sun) phenomenon of the Pioneer 10 and Pioneer 11 spaceprobes.
The highly misleading headline here about lunar displacement is of the order of femtometers per year and certainly not measurable with naked eyesight or similar NABS (New Age BS) 'quasi-science'.
An actual archived reference to this 'misrepresented' university publication and the 'Cornell' associated video is here:
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1102/1102.0212v6.pdf

In this paper, the ratio G(dot)/G=(dG/dt)/G is defined as of being in the order of -6x10^-14 per year as Equation#16. Furthermore the measured lunar eccentricity variance is given in Equation#1 as about 10^-11 per year and related to a mass parameter ratio in Equation#15 in so 8x10^-12 per year.

As the next excerpt from a paper by me on the Pioneer anomaly can show; the Milgrom Acceleration a_milgrom is indeed a cosmic universal constant, defined in the formula:

A_milgrom=-2H_oc/[n+1]³

and definitive for the above 'LightspeedxHubble Constant' tentative proposition and relates intrinsically to the dark energy phenomenon for an overall 'flat universe' cosmology.

As G_o=1/k in the inversion modular duality between gravitation and electromagnetism in the elementary string-membrane hyperphysics; G_o=1.111...x10^-10 m³kg^-1s^-2 at the start of the universes thermodynamic evolution and after say 20 billion years it would assume its present value of about G_now=6.7x10^-11 m³kg^-1s^-2 which defines a dG/dt timerate of change of 2.3x10^-21 per year in G_o - G_now=dG/dt.

Therefore the ratio (dG/dt)/G_o=(2.3x10^-21)/(1.111..x10^-10)~2x10^-11 and the range of both, the natural cosmic Milgrom acceleration and the associated Pioneer anomalies and the lunar eccentricity variances.



The Pioneer Anomaly as Milgrom Deceleration Effect of de Sitter Curvature

What causes the apparent residual sunward acceleration of the Pioneer spacecraft?



The Pioneer anomaly or Pioneer effect is the observed deviation from predicted trajectories and velocities of various unmanned spacecraft visiting the outer solar system, most notably Pioneer 10 and Pioneer 11. Both Pioneer spacecraft are escaping from the solar system, and are slowing down under the influence of the Sun's gravity. Upon very close examination, however, they are slowing down slightly more than expected. The effect can be modeled as a slight additional acceleration towards the Sun.

At present, there is no universally accepted explanation for this phenomenon. The explanation may be mundane, such as measurement error or thrust from gas leakage or uneven radiation of heat. However, it is also possible that current physical theory does not correctly explain the behaviour of the craft relative to the sun.

Initial indications:

The effect is seen in radio Doppler and ranging data, yielding information on the velocity and distance of the spacecraft. When all known forces acting on the spacecraft are taken into consideration, a very small but unexplained force remains. It appears to cause a constant acceleration of (8.74 ± 1.33) × 10^-10 m/s² for both spacecraft. If the positions of the spacecraft are predicted one year in advance based on measured velocity and known forces (mostly gravity), they are actually found to be some 400 km closer to the sun at the end of the year. The magnitude of the Pioneer effect is numerically quite close to the product of the ]speed of light and the Hubble constant, but the significance of this, if any, is unknown. Gravitationally bound objects such as the solar system, or even the galaxy, do not partake of the expansion of the universe - this is known both from theory and by direct measurement.

Data from the Galileo and Ulysses spacecraft indicate a similar effect, although for various reasons (such as their relative proximity to the Sun) firm conclusions cannot be drawn from these sources. These spacecraft are all partially or fully spin-stabilised.

The effect is much harder to measure accurately with craft that use thrusters for attitude control. These spacecraft, such as the Voyagers, acquire small and unpredictable changes in speed as a side effect of the frequent attitude control firings. This 'noise' makes it impractical to measure small accelerations such as the Pioneer effect.

The Cassini mission also had reaction wheels for altitude control, thus avoiding this particular problem, but also had radioisotope thermoelectric generators (RTGs) mounted close to the spacecraft body, radiating kilowatts of heat in hard-to-predict directions. The measured value of unmodelled acceleration for Cassini is (26.7 ± 1.1) × 10^-10 m/s². Unfortunately, this is the sum of the uncertain thermal effects and the possible anomaly. Therefore the Cassini measurements neither conclusively confirm nor refute the existence of the anomaly.[/size]


One major consequence for the intrinsic de Sitter curvature becomes the 'Dark Energy' manifesting in a differential of acceleration between inertial and noninertial frames of references. The local solar system is a comoving part of the Friedmann expansion into de Sitter spacetime and so becomes a non-inertial comoving reference frame relative to the inertial and static reference frame of de Sitter spacetime.
This then leads to a logical explanation for the Pioneer anomaly measured for the last decade or so.

As the flat Friedmann universe requires a critical density for its flatness, which is supplied in the 'Dark Energy' in the form of the de Sitter Lambda encompassing the Minkowski universe in positive curvature and closure; the 'missing mass' in the open Friedmann cosmology readjusts the critical mass in the formulations describing the 'Dark Energy'.
This manifests in the 'higher dimensional' curved de Sitter spacetime forming an acceleration gradient relative to the 'lower dimensional' flat Minkowski spacetime.
Considering the de Sitter cosmology to be 'background'-inertial then results in the Minkowski spacetime to be rendered noninertial by the experience of a 'de Sitter' force or pressure.

As the deceleration parameter q_o=½Ω_o=M_o/2M_critical=Λ_o(n_o)/A_dB~0.01405 defines the Omega relative to the Friedmann spacetime; replacing the baryon seed M_o by the critical mass M_critical will adjust the Friedmann lambda in the factor Ω_o=0.0282 in the de Sitter lambda.

Then the formulation: Omega Milgrom=Lambda becomes {2.807x10^-11 -1.162x10^-10 = -8.812x10^-11 } for the Friedmann cosmology and {9.989x10^-10 -1.162x10^-10 = 8.827x10^-10} for the de Sitter cosmology in acceleration units for the present time.
The flat Friedmann universe for a zero cosmological constant so balances the Omega deceleration with the Intrinsic (Milgrom) acceleration and omits the de Sitter component, which acts in addition to the Omega for the present time to balance the Milgrom in opposite direction.

The Pioneer anomaly then becomes quantifiable in the Planck-Action applied to the de Sitter spacetime and manifesting in the Minkowski spacetime.

The Planck-Action is the product of Planck-Momentum p_P=m_Pc and the Hubble-Radius R_o for m_PcR_o=m_Pc²/H_o to indicate the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle in px=Et.
The general energy operator then is p²/m for an acceleration a=p²/m²x=(p².p)/(m²xp_P)=(mv³)/(xm_Pc).
Applying the de Sitter referential lambda acceleration as R_oH_o²=c²/R_o=(mv³)/(xm_Pc) yields a proportional relationship between the de Sitter Hubble-Radius as reference for a subscale x in the Friedmann universe in:
(x/R_o)=(v/c)³ and relative to the Planck-Mass standard.

Applied to the Pioneer anomaly then, a characteristic displacement of x=100 AU (1.5x10¹³ meters), will infer a characteristic velocity of v=c.Cuberoot(x/R_o) ~ 13.6 km/s or 0.0045% of lightspeed.

This is indeed the order of velocity measured for the Pioneer probes at such distances.


The De Sitter Universe

A de Sitter universe is a solution to Einstein's field equations of General Relativity which is named after Willem de Sitter. It models the universe as spatially flat and neglects ordinary matter, so the dynamics of the universe are dominated by the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_constant] cosmological constant , thought to correspond to dark energy.
A de Sitter universe has no ordinary matter content but with a positive cosmological constant which sets the expansion rate, H. A larger cosmological constant leads to a larger expansion rate:

, where the constants of proportionality depend on conventions. The cosmological constant is Λ and M_pl is the Planck mass


This corresponds to solving the Friedmann equation for Ω=0, which renders the Einstein formulation
G_uv + g_uvΛ = 0 traced in the form [H(t)]²= f(n)Λ, with the function f(n) describing the curvature of the flat spacetime intrinsic to the Einstein-Riemann tensor G_uv.
Expressing the supposedly constant Λ term in the form of energy density Mc²/V for a inertia-gravita equivalence m_P=hf_P/c²=h/λ_Pc then gives a local energy density ε=mc²/V proportional to the Planck-Energy density ε_P= m_Pc²/V_P for f(n)=ε/ε_P as some unity reference incorporating the Planckian gravita as the Planck-mass reference.
H²/Λ=1 then gives the equation of motion of the expansion parameter a(t)=R(t)/R_o and becomes
(da/dt)= a(t)√Λ, solving as ∫da/a = √Λt = ln(a/a_o) or R(t)=R_oe^t√Λ = R_oe^tH.


It is common to describe a patch of this solution as an expanding universe of the FLRW form where the scale factor is given by:

, where the constant H is the Hubble expansion rate and t is time. As in all FLRW spaces, a(t), the scale factor, describes the expansion of physical spatial distances
.


Here, the 'flaw' in the physical interpretation of the mathematics is the assumption of a(t) expanding without limit in the flat Minkowski spacetime of Poincare-Lorentz.
This is required for zero curvature, as only then the curvature radius approaches infinity in the curvature expression c²/R(t)² for infinite time t.

But in de Sitter spacetime, the intrinsic curvature of the flat Minkowski spacetime becomes asymptotic and so the expression a(t)=e^Ht with t=n/H_o and t_o=n_o/H_o=1/f_o becomes n/(n 1)=1=e^Ht, requiring
H(t_o)=f_o=1/t_o, which is the instanton-inflaton of the de Broglie matter wave.

For the initialisation by n_o=λ_o/R_o ~ 6x10^-49 ~ 0 then; a_o= n_o=H_ot_o and the Friedmann flatness a_o=0 mirrored in the de Sitter curvature of a_∞=1 by the inversion property of the natural exponent 'e'.
e → {1+1/n}=1/a and 1/e → {n/(n+1)}={1- 1/(n+1)}=a.



Our universe is becoming like de Sitter universe?!

Because our Universe has entered the Dark Energy Dominated Era a few billion years ago, our universe is probably approaching a de Sitter universe in the infinite future. If the current acceleration of our universe is due to a cosmological constant then as the universe continues to expand all of the matter and radiation will be diluted. Eventually there will be almost nothing left but the cosmological constant, and our universe will have become a de Sitter universe.


This is a misinterpretation of the 'Dark Energy', as the 'Dark Energy' is everpresent as intrinsic part of the de Sitter curvature superposed onto the Minkowski flatness.
The universe always was a de Sitter universe and will always be amenable to be described by de Sitter cosmology.
The dilution of matter relates to the manifestation of the baryon seedling M_o, which simply distributes the seed inertia as a Friedmann LDU 'Daughter-Black Hole' within the 'Mother-Black Hole' of the de Sitter HDU. As this dilution is fixed in the critical density and the Omega of the flat cosmology, the expansion of the universe is dual in an oscillatory mapping of the HDU into the LDU, accompanied by the expansion of the R³-spacetime of this Minkowskian multiverse into the R⁴ hyperspace of the HDU boundary.


Modelling Cosmic Inflation?!

Another application of de Sitter space is in the early universe during cosmic inflation. Many inflationary models are approximately de Sitter space and can be modeled by giving the Hubble parameter a mild time dependence. For simplicity, some calculations involving inflation in the early universe can be performed in de Sitter space rather than a more realistic inflationary universe. By using the de Sitter universe instead, where the expansion is truly exponential, there are many simplifications.

The background to this information is published in the next post, also published here:

http://gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Essays/View/2075

shiloh

any idea about the mysterious BLUE GLOW of our moon?

thanks

Thanks shiloh. I do my best to stick with the facts and even then it's a challenge sorting out them out.

Nope... devakas, you don't suppose they have an atmosphere forming where they now have a blue sky developing do you?

devakas wrote:
any idea about the mysterious BLUE GLOW of our moon?

thanks

Dear Devakas and Carol!

There exists a real 'ufo' phenomenon and the hyperphysics 'they' utilize is related to a 4th space-dimension (not time).
Just as a 3D Devakas in meditation under the bodhi tree and a 3D Carol on the 'free beach' can cast a 2-dimensional shadow onto the sand or the landscape, depending on the angular position of a shining sun; so can a 4D 'object' cast a 3-dimensional shadow into a 4-dimensional spacetime continuum (being antishoned upon by a dark energy source say a dark star). The 4D UFO so so becomes a quasi 3D object in the present reality; just as Carol's and Devaks' shadows are 2D projections from 3D human merkabahs.


The point is however that the 2D shadow requires a white light source and the 3D shadow requires a dark antilight source to satisfy the intrinsic boundary conditions between the linespace of 3 dimensions with a superposed timearrow (this is called Minkowski flat Euclidean spacetime) and the hyperspace conifolded in that same 3D space.

This is why the real ufo (over 90% of ufos are military 'black budget' constructions) is PLASMIC at the present time and seemingly able to manouver in a different timespace matrix to the Minkowski spacetime.

This then can be described as a 'twilight zone' of dimensional self-intersection and it it this 'twilight zone' which can give rise to many so called paranormal phenomenas like the 'green aura' of the sun and the 'blue halo' of the moon.

Yes I can see the blue halo of the moon whenever I care to observe it, as I and many others carry a certain 'sensitivity' towards this 'dimensional intersection', defined by frequency transduction.

So to explain those 'twilight zones' reductionally, requires a new physics, namely a model for the 5-dimensional hyperspace embedded and colocal with the present linearised 'Linespacetime'. The Linespace of Translation is colocal with Hyperspace of Rotation is colocal with Quantumspace of Vibration all in counts of 3 to satisfy the mathematical requirements of symmetry in a 12-dimensional omniverse.

The posts above give a rudimentary introduction towards the initial- and boundary conditions for such a realm to exist.

The great nexus of December 21st, 2012 will manifest a metaphysical warping of this 'twilight zone', in effect changing a discontinuity into a continuity.
From then on the ufo phenomenon will disclose itself rather naturally and without human interferences.

But as the transformer signal is approaching the center of Gaia at lightspeed even now and gets closer every day; many people are becoming aware of the changes ahead in attuning their frequency receivers, called their brains; with an appropriate software (related to conciousness and self awareness as a form of radius-independent angular acceleration called the timederivative of frequency or df/dt), depending on the hyperphysics circuits (of a natural superconductivity) inbuilt therein.

So the 'twilight zone' shall become ever more apparent, as the timeline of the Grand Metamorphosis of the Cosmos reveals itself and many people will participate in this 'change of the human mind' and its encompassing group-consciousness.

shiloh

Sanicle wrote:You have me intrigued Lawlessline. A little off-subject here but when you say "If we look at the earth through energetic eyes so we can see through the earth", are you saying you can do this? If so, you can answer the question that's been raised here and elsewhere as to whether the Earth is hollow! Can you? And if so, is it?

Is the world hollow? Yes. In a Jules Verne sense? No. The center is like a plasma ball holding the infinite chord, which gives form to the energy layers that was explain in the thread before.

I am not saying that the center of the earth is not used as a point of habitation for periods or even travel through, it would just mean that in order to do this one must come from a different dimension.This dimension, or the forth dimension, if I understand it correctly, is a dimension of vibration. The 5th dimension is the dimension of transit, non stationary vibration. One would pass through but not exist, even as a shadow. Maybe because a shadow could not be casted on dark matter.

But this ties in with what Shiloh is saying. Not so hot on the maths front, but the conclusions gives confirmations to other theories that I have.

Here is the theory of pole reversal that I was mentioning. It also explains the tear in dimensions when will is forced through rather than flowed through.

As to avoid any deviation from Carol's threaded topic, I am replying to the thoughtful reply of lawlessline to sanicle on the Thuban Euphrates forum.

An excellent reply lawlessline and in concordance with Thuban understanding of the Dragon Sciences. . No you dont have to hide your reptilian brainstem behind the sofa!

The higherD equivalence of the earth has been examined in other posts here and it suffices to say, that the central Newtonian inertia-energy equivalent of Gaia is indeed like a golfball sized sphere and as depicted in your shared video.
And this includes all of the lifeforms and the consciousness of Gaia as a multiconnected kaleidoscope of subconsciousnesses, including that of you and yours.


So sanicle, icey princess from 'down under', yes in higher dimensional space the earth is hollow and even the surface of the earth and its atmosphere exist in literal multidimensional; space right now. Point is, that your sensory apparatus can discern more energy streams, than the statistical norm of the human species and so you often 'FEEL' this multidimensionality.

shiloh wrote:As to avoid any deviation from Carol's threaded topic, I am replying to the thoughtful reply of lawlessline to sanicle on the Thuban Euphrates forum.

An excellent reply lawlessline and in concordance with Thuban understanding of the Dragon Sciences. . No you dont have to hide your reptilian brainstem behind the sofa!

The higherD equivalence of the earth has been examined in other posts here and it suffices to say, that the central Newtonian inertia-energy equivalent of Gaia is indeed like a golfball sized sphere and as depicted in your shared video.
And this includes all of the lifeforms and the consciousness of Gaia as a multiconnected kaleidoscope of subconsciousnesses, including that of you and yours.


So sanicle, icey princess from 'down under', yes in higher dimensional space the earth is hollow and even the surface of the earth and its atmosphere exist in literal multidimensional; space right now. Point is, that your sensory apparatus can discern more energy streams, than the statistical norm of the human species and so you often 'FEEL' this multidimensionality.

I have started another thread to avoid this topic getting lost to another conversation. I have called it "Dragon Sciences" because this is a real question in its own rights. I have copied across the info concerning this question to continue the topic.

t

Thank you Lawlessline and Shiloh for responding to my question re the Earth being hollow. I can easily accept 'hollow Earth' when looking at in terms of 4D and 5D rather than it being so in 3D terms as it's so often claimed to be. Excellent.

The moon will remove itself from it's current orbit near December 17th 2012. After that, it's influence on human consciousness will exude itself on what is presently know as the Southern Hemisphere, locking the remaining elements of the third dimension into her. Kochab (not Thuban), will become the new pole star.

heres what could be effecting the moon?????? A second moon Crinthia I think it is called.


Still looking into the evidence presented. anyone with any other thoughts?

lawlessline wrote:heres what could be effecting the moon?????? A second moon Crinthia I think it is called.


Still looking into the evidence presented. anyone with any other thoughts?

This is an asteroid lawlessline and NOT a moon. It simply means there are orbit synchronicities {here 1:1} by Kepler's Laws of celestial Newonian motions and dynamics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3753_Cruithne

shiloh

[quote="shiloh"

This is an asteroid lawlessline and NOT a moon. It simply means there are orbit synchronicities {here 1:1} by Kepler's Laws of celestial Newonian motions and dynamics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3753_Cruithne

shiloh[/quote]

I was under the impression that an Astroide was something the oribts the sun, where as Cythia or what ever the rock is called orbits the earth, therefore classed an planet orbiting body or moon? But I may not be the best person to ask for that. but in definition a moon is a rock of any size that orbits a planet and NOT the sun.

But I understand what you mean.

lawlessline wrote:[quote="shiloh"

This is an asteroid lawlessline and NOT a moon. It simply means there are orbit synchronicities {here 1:1} by Kepler's Laws of celestial Newonian motions and dynamics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3753_Cruithne

shiloh

I was under the impression that an Astroide was something the oribts the sun, where as Cythia or what ever the rock is called orbits the earth, therefore classed an planet orbiting body or moon? But I may not be the best person to ask for that. but in definition a moon is a rock of any size that orbits a planet and NOT the sun.

But I understand what you mean.

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Good then. The ASTEROID Cruithne DOES orbit the Sun, as you can see here.:



Photo from above wiki link, Tom.

shiloh

here is from the same page. It says it orbits the sun but then shows how i does a horse shoe orbit not making a complete orbit of the sun, therefore, not orbiting the sun??????? I am all confused about that now.

so Does it orbit the Sun? As said earlier, I am not the best person to ask. It appears to make an orbit around the earth which is orbiting the sun so cynthia indirectly orbits the sun???????? Of course I may have this wrong as I am not the best person on Astroides. But I was only putting in conjuncture with the moon changing axes as this thread is deicated to that.

lawlessline wrote:here is from the same page. It says it orbits the sun but then shows how i does a horse shoe orbit not making a complete orbit of the sun, therefore, not orbiting the sun??????? I am all confused about that now.

so Does it orbit the Sun? As said earlier, I am not the best person to ask. It appears to make an orbit around the earth which is orbiting the sun so cynthia indirectly orbits the sun???????? Of course I may have this wrong as I am not the best person on Astroides. But I was only putting in conjuncture with the moon changing axes as this thread is deicated to that.

Relative to the Earth, the Sun rises in the East and sets in the West. This is called a 'Earth centered' frame of reference, as used by the ancient astrologers, like Ptolemy.

The horseshoe orbit likewise describes a earth centered frame of reference. The red orbit superposed describes a heliocentric or sun centered cosmology in the Sun's reference frame.

As the Solar System is dynamically and say gravitationally based on the Sun; the movements of celestial objects within this solar system are sun centered in their applied mathematical analysis; the sun harbouring so 99% of the total baryonic mass of this solar system.

Another effect of this and in astrological charts are retroplanets, as they use earth centered reference frames to map the celestial dynamics.

shiloh