Dowsing

I came across a strange pendulum hanging in a forest on a branch almost 2 weeks ago. It was suggested to me that i should take it. So i thought about it and went back yesterday and took it off the branch. (yes i do feel somewhat guilty about it) It was not even tied, a very thin rope was just "twisted" around the branch and since the branch surface is not smooth it stayed on there...even in the wind/rain conditions that were going on in recent days It is rather strange. The ends looks like some mechanical part. It is round and there is a screw in the middle...and the rope is not tied at the top of it but at the side of the top of the screw. So i went and played with it a little. I remember reading a little something about this some time ago. I wrote a cross on the paper and i told it to either move up or down or go left and right and to stop at the middle and move again....and to my amazement it did so without me "making a sweat". So i thought to myself...ok this is interesting... Than i went to bed Today i used a more "advanced" paper drawing that looks like this So i was like asking questions (i told it to stay still after each answer to not get some wrong swings)... like... is my name Rok or is today Thursday...etc and it showed "yes" and than i asked if my name is something that is not and it went to "no"...so that was promising...so i went and asked a little more....i asked some personal things and i also asked if all answers given are correct and it went to "no" side. That was strange so i asked if there is anything unfriendly about and it went to "yes". That was weird. So i stopped since...the thing might be using me instead of me using it. I also asked if my real name is what my official name is and it went in circles. I asked if the answers from it (pendulum) can be trusted and it went to "no" I asked if i should be doing this and it went in circles. So what i have here is a pendulum conspiracy (they never seem to end, do they hehe..conspiracies that is) telling me answers...than admitting some answers can be wrong and than saying there are "unfriendliness" about me and when the most interesting question is presented the thing goes in circles...which reminds me just now...that i should be spinning more each day.... I went along the basic instructions (asking for all the unwelcome "things" to go to where they belong and asking to get proper guidance) but the non electromagnetic interference condition was not implemented (there was a PC plugged in). So this was my first time doing this....any other actual experiences, suggestions, instructions (something you did) will be most welcome.

Interesting Sregovori .
We do have a professional dowser on the forum : Lawlessline and maybe more that I don't know about.
I wish he comes across your post and gives you some wise hints .
My experience with the pendulum is that it is really not " it " that knows but rather your higher self
manifesting through your body and that impulse is then given to the pendulum.
It has no power of it's own but rather acts as an amplifier .
Who we are is all Knowing always and only a small portion of that all Knowing Consciousness that
chose to incarnate through our physical bodies on this plane has lowered it's awareness to fit the
game at hand. There are a lot of perceptions that go around the single swing of pendulum .
I believe Lawless would speak to you about the chakras and how bringing our attention to them
allows for the expansion of our field of consciousness .

Love from me
mudra

Ha...1 reply & 11 views on this thread, and I knew I must write something here The numbers doesn't lie, or do they...???

Nevertheless, I find your "toy" very interesting Rok. I would've done the same thing, asking some privat questions first to check the "credibilty" and then maybe asking more complex questions.

Basicly, I find dowsing, when done properly and from an experienced dowser, a prety cool tool.

What's pretty funny in your case is that as long as you kept your questioning simple, it gave you simple answers. More complex questuions and there you have it, it circles around...

This might be your unexperienced art of questioning. I bet that, as long as you keep dowsing, you'll become much sofisticated and the questions and the answer would be much cleaner.

Now, I don' know how far would you go with your questions, but you should be aware that it is YOUR mind that asks these questions and it is your subconsciouss YOU with your own energies that direct the pendulum when answering.

Play around...and keep us informed. I'm very, very curious about the further outcome.

malletzky

[I remember the first and the last time I witnessed a dowser dowsing, and that was some 25 years go. My parents just bought a property and wanted to build a house there. So they asked a dowser to please "check" if there's some watter bellow their feet and how deep it is (they were just afraid that the basement might be under watter one day).

So he came, did some dowsing and told us exactly where to place the basement and how deep the watter beneat our feet is...he said exactly 9m., and he was so damn right about it ]

Spregovori,

It might be my browser but I seem to be missing the ending of each line on your post. Any chance of repostinging so I can read the thing properly? As I say it could be from my end.

There may be a cleaning needed to be done on the pendule. This can be done through natural spring water and either pure salt or crystals. Then you should reinstall the thing. This is through the yes and no answer. First asking the direction for yes and then for no. If it circles as M said, it is a question that has too many answers. If it sways from side to side, this will be "depends" as the answer.

Just as an idea. If you wish to ask very big questions, then do this through very much smaller questions that will build up the bigger picture. The bigger picture will be the answer. You can then explain the bigger picture and ask if you have it correct. You do this as you go through the stages of explaination. The pendule will turn according to yes or no. The bigger the turning of the pen. the closer you are to the truth.

May be you should also ask it about its owner? If there is someone waiting for its return?

Also you should do some rod dowsing in the area in which you found it. If you have a google map of the area I can help in that dowsing aspect. You do the dowsing and I will then say what I have found. Rather than front load as it were.

Anyway, the invitation to you is clear. Welcome to the world of dowsing.

the best to you,

t

lawlessline wrote:Spregovori,

It might be my browser but I seem to be missing the ending of each line on your post. Any chance of repostinging so I can read the thing properly? As I say it could be from my end.

There may be a cleaning needed to be done on the pendule. This can be done through natural spring water and either pure salt or crystals. Then you should reinstall the thing. This is through the yes and no answer. First asking the direction for yes and then for no. If it circles as M said, it is a question that has too many answers. If it sways from side to side, this will be "depends" as the answer.

Just as an idea. If you wish to ask very big questions, then do this through very much smaller questions that will build up the bigger picture. The bigger picture will be the answer. You can then explain the bigger picture and ask if you have it correct. You do this as you go through the stages of explaination. The pendule will turn according to yes or no. The bigger the turning of the pen. the closer you are to the truth.

May be you should also ask it about its owner? If there is someone waiting for its return?

Also you should do some rod dowsing in the area in which you found it. If you have a google map of the area I can help in that dowsing aspect. You do the dowsing and I will then say what I have found. Rather than front load as it were.

Anyway, the invitation to you is clear. Welcome to the world of dowsing.

the best to you,

t

Sure I will re-post the text (hope you can see the pictures) Which browser do you use and version of it? Do you get the same problem in "penny for you input" thread? Not sure why though...all i do is insert a table with some tr and td, give it a background and write.

So here goes the text:

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I came across a strange pendulum hanging in a forest on a branch almost 2 weeks ago. It was suggested to me that i should take it. So i thought about it and went back yesterday and took it off the branch. (yes i do feel somewhat guilty about it) It was not even tied, a very thin rope was just "twisted" around the branch and since the branch surface is not smooth it stayed on there...even in the wind/rain conditions that were going on in recent days

It is rather strange. The ends looks like some mechanical part. It is round and there is a screw in the middle...and the rope is not tied at the top of it but at the side of the top of the screw.

So i went and played with it a little. I remember reading a little something about this some time ago. I wrote a cross on the paper and i told it to either move up or down or go left and right and to stop at the middle and move again....and to my amazement it did so without me "making a sweat". So i thought to myself...ok this is interesting...

Than i went to bed

Today i used a more "advanced" paper drawing that looks like this

So i was like asking questions (i told it to stay still after each answer to not get some wrong swings)... like... is my name Rok or is today Thursday...etc and it showed "yes" and than i asked if my name is something that is not and it went to "no"...so that was promising...so i went and asked a little more....i asked some personal things and i also asked if all answers given are correct and it went to "no" side. That was strange so i asked if there is anything unfriendly about and it went to "yes". That was weird. So i stopped since...the thing might be using me instead of me using it.

I also asked if my real name is what my official name is and it went in circles.

I asked if the answers from it (pendulum) can be trusted and it went to "no"

I asked if i should be doing this and it went in circles.

So what i have here is a pendulum conspiracy (they never seem to end, do they hehe..conspiracies that is) telling me answers...than admitting some answers can be wrong and than saying there are "unfriendliness" about me and when the most interesting question is presented the thing goes in circles...which reminds me just now...that i should be spinning more each day....


I went along the basic instructions (asking for all the unwelcome "things" to go to where they belong and asking to get proper guidance) but the non electromagnetic interference condition was not implemented (there was a PC plugged in).

So this was my first time doing this....any other actual experiences, suggestions, instructions (something you did) will be most welcome.

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Yes the owner question is on the spot.

I wrote four words on the paper (two on each side one above the other) and put it in the middle and told it to point to my name and after a few seconds of persistence it did that it also goes up and down or left or right if "told to" and it would seem it likes if the "command" is amm more firm and not too soft...or so it would seem. So this has me thinking that it is in tune.

Now i am thinking about making some sort of number/letters "template" and ask it to point to number and eventually use the questions that would require such answers. But i am not in a hurry with it...

I went a little more slowly the 2nd time...taking more time for expressing the explicit desire of getting the answers from either higher self or benevolent beings and for the area/room i am in to be cleared and "showered" with white-golden light...picturing all of that in my head... And after making a question like "did this answer came from benevolent source" it sort of a confirmed it so i guess it worked.


I than went and asked a few things and it gave...answers that were both pleasing and displeasing. I also noticed that if my mind is "flying" so is the pendulum. Being focused is a test there. The second i am not it starts to just dance around.

I also "dissected" the questions. It would seem that the spirit/higher self is very "specific". One can not go with "well you know what i mean" since it would seem it will only react to a specific question so forming one takes a little time but it is doable...

I think if i get...if i get my emotions "working" and they are not exactly in harmony with the..."divine plan"....i tend to open the door for someone else to join the party...i somewhat got that confirmed with the pendulum. It is my guess this is something i should not "play" with too much or at least no in some purely self-service way or while under the strain of emotions.

Is the absence of electric devices (and such) a must? Is it enough if everything in the room is turned off?

About the location...i can go there eventually and take the GPS coordinates with the phone i have.
The approximation i made using google is http://maps.google.com/maps?q=46.104037,+14.431051&num=1&t=h&vps=2&jsv=271c&sll=46.111944,14.433889&sspn=0.071946,0.071946&ie=UTF8&hl=en&geocode=FeV9vwIdSzPcAA&split=0

How much of a "paranoia" can it be if you have a thought about weather it is possible for a pendulum to swing you and not the other way around? :)

mudra wrote:Interesting

My experience with the pendulum is that it is really not " it " that knows but rather your higher self
manifesting through your body and that impulse is then given to the pendulum.
It has no power of it's own but rather acts as an amplifier .

Love from me
mudra

Hmm yes i had similar thoughts. I amm tried it again (figures) poking in the "uknown". Read somewhere it can make things unplesant if used in wrong way. What is most interesting is that i did not think it will react and now that it did...this opens a new "chapter" or closes one of the olds...not sure. It is definitely something i have not done before.

malletzky wrote:Ha...1 reply & 11 views on this thread, and I knew I must write something here The numbers doesn't lie, or do they...???

Nevertheless, I find your "toy" very interesting Rok. I would've done the same thing, asking some privat questions first to check the "credibilty" and then maybe asking more complex questions.

Basicly, I find dowsing, when done properly and from an experienced dowser, a prety cool tool.

What's pretty funny in your case is that as long as you kept your questioning simple, it gave you simple answers. More complex questuions and there you have it, it circles around...

Play around...and keep us informed. I'm very, very curious about the further outcome.

malletzky

Oh yes. The most interesting questions give me the spinns. Like...oh no... heheh But than i asked "does spinning mean i have to figure it out myself" and it went to the "yes" side...so...the hard work never seems to end but it can be fun in a way...as long as question like "are there any maleovlent enteties around me" does not go to "yes" since in that case the first time i was like "ok all of you, out of here"....but than...it makes you wonder...i mean..they are not there by chance...something/someone (me) brought them there...


EDIT: many typo

[quote="Spregovori"]

Sure I will re-post the text (hope you can see the pictures) Which browser do you use and version of it? Do you get the same problem in "penny for you input" thread? Not sure why though...all i do is insert a table with some tr and td, give it a background and write.

So here goes the text:

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About the location...i can go there eventually and take the GPS coordinates with the phone i have.
The approximation i made using google is http://maps.google.com/maps?q=46.104037,+14.431051&num=1&t=h&vps=2&jsv=271c&sll=46.111944,14.433889&sspn=0.071946,0.071946&ie=UTF8&hl=en&geocode=FeV9vwIdSzPcAA&split=0

How much of a "paranoia" can it be if you have a thought about weather it is possible for a pendulum to swing you and not the other way around? :)

[quote="Spregovori"]
Yours is the only post that this has happened. So it could be just a one off. Thanks for the help though.

Ok now that I've seen the post I understand a bit more.

Firstly you should as I said clean the thing. Leaving it in the sun for at least 2 or 3 days.
Then the reprogramming of the pen. can start. I would not consider any of the answers correct from what you have asked it already, this is because it will have still imprinted on it the programme from previous user.

The correct way to get the yes/no answers is through the programming of the pen. Once clean this only takes a few minutes and no pices of paper or any exterior impliments are needed. To repromramme the pen, yo hold it with the hand that you will use habitually, then holding the pen. over your open hand, the palm of the free hand. Firstly feel the connection or electrical magnectic pull between the 2. They should not touch. Then you ask the pen to show you a yes answer. It will then start to spin in either a clock or anti clockwise direction. That will then be the set direction of the yes. Then do the samen for No. It should spin the other way. When the pen. sways from side to side the question is not defined enough. If the yes is clockwise and the angle of swing exits away from you to the left you know you are on the right track. If it exits to the right then you know you are more off the ball than on it.

Start with that then you can get into playing the earths magnetic field. Around that area that you gave on google map is quite interesting. But get to know you pen before we go any further.


Paranoia doesn't really exist. But thats another story.


Happy dowsing,

t

Just looked at the pen. Looks like a home made thing. You would be better to get a real one. But I am curious to see if you took the screw out if there is anything inside.

Also the pen should not be hung at an angle, if it is only attached from one side.
It creates a spiral spin through the pen which will mess up the finite questions.

Cheers,

t

lawlessline wrote:Just looked at the pen. Looks like a home made thing. You would be better to get a real one. But I am curious to see if you took the screw out if there is anything inside.

Also the pen should not be hung at an angle, if it is only attached from one side.
It creates a spiral spin through the pen which will mess up the finite questions.

Cheers,

t

Yes it is only attached at the side and it can go in spirals...looks kinda interesting for it to go in spiral motion.

The area is interesting? Well the forest here amm...have u ever had the feeling you are being watched?
The area itself is to the left (going up) of the "christ cross" (an old custom...they put it on the "top" of the hill)...it is on the crossroads of the side rode (small rode). I went there since there is a small bench there near a pine tree. I like pine. There is also a sort of a valley (small one!) there (light green area on the map). The top of the trees from that valley are on the "ground level" of where the bench and forest path is. Never went inside the valley...hmmm Due to the valley the sun can reach you (although it was said solar logos is not something to identify with) since the trees in the valley do not cover the sky.

Also saw there are some "dragon lines" about here (the country i live in)

To be honest, i think i should return it. What got my attention was that...i did not even noticed it right away. I "happened" to see it hanging on the branch and it was swinging. But just the bottom (head) of it. Not the rope. So it was not the wind. The bottom was turning left and right in a very obvious way. The second time (the time i took it) it was still...it was also later in the day and the forest was on the point of going to "sleep"....

2-3 days on the sun...been cloudy here most of the week...unusually cold also for august...currently raining in this moment with some thunder...

Get a real one? How? Where? Fro ma seller on the street?

Take the screw out? Hmm... I amm borrowed it without permission...now to disassemble it...would not that be a violation?

Currently it is hanging above my head....where i sleep. Has been there since last evening. There are some slight movements of the "head" and yesterday evening there were some more, making almost 90% turns a-b b-a a-b etc..

paranoia/feeling saying in half joke...am i studying it or does it study me...

Spregovori wrote:
paranoia/feeling saying in half joke...am i studying it or does it study me...

Thats really cool spreg and quite funny....

stay grounded on your journey.... and always remember... fear is the mind killer...

Jonah wrote:

Spregovori wrote:
paranoia/feeling saying in half joke...am i studying it or does it study me...

Thats really cool spreg and quite funny....

stay grounded on your journey.... and always remember... fear is the mind killer...

It would not call it fear...more like a feeling combined with....how the situation even came to be and relations to that...(hard to explain in non direct way)

I asked some more stuff this morning and got some hard swings.

Questions included: can this pendulum hurt me (strong swing to yes), should i return it (circle), if i make a decision to return it will that be a good decision (yes), is the previous owner missing it (no), was pendulum left there intentionally (yes), was it left there for me (circle), does the pendulum contain negative energy (yes), ....

I also asked about some people i know...and it gave..some "surprising" answers....

I think that more or less all answers were correct...call it he "intuition"...i was checking on regular bases (with questions).

Anyway the overall feeling about it is not what i would want and it was not even my decision to "borrow it without permission" in a first place (i was "advised" to do it) so i am taking it back today.

The overall experience was interesting. I can vouch with all my honesty that the pendulum thing is not some "new age hoax" and let this be all for now.

I do wonder...where to get a "proper one".

Spregovori wrote:

It would not call it fear...more like a feeling combined with....how the situation even came to be and relations to that...(hard to explain in non direct way)

I asked some more stuff this morning and got some hard swings.

Questions included: can this pendulum hurt me (strong swing to yes), should i return it (circle), if i make a decision to return it will that be a good decision (yes), is the previous owner missing it (no), was pendulum left there intentionally (yes), was it left there for me (circle), does the pendulum contain negative energy (yes), ....

I also asked about some people i know...and it gave..some "surprising" answers....

I think that more or less all answers were correct...call it he "intuition"...i was checking on regular bases (with questions).

Anyway the overall feeling about it is not what i would want and it was not even my decision to "borrow it without permission" in a first place (i was "advised" to do it) so i am taking it back today.

The overall experience was interesting. I can vouch with all my honesty that the pendulum thing is not some "new age hoax" and let this be all for now.

I do wonder...where to get a "proper one".

Take your time to by a proper one and don't do it on the net, you have to feel it. Like the wand that chooses its owner sort of thing. If you want any advise on that I am always here.

Back to the area in which you found it.

From the point on the google map if you go north east there is a geomagnetic line or dragon line as you say. Infact there are 2. there is a crossing of these 2 lines north west of the point.
South of the poin is some lower frequency lines with even smaller lines the cross from the southern lines to the northern main lnes.

But the interesting thing is there is a small vortex where you found the thing. Pretty much the centre is where the point on the map is. You should try and find some local dowsrs who would have put the thing there. The reason it is home made because it was being used to temper the vortex, either for good or bad. Although these don't truely exist it might exist for the person who put the thing there. That is why I was interested in whta was inside it.

I suggest that still clean the thing and give it a new role of bring balance to the vortex. Yes it will take on the negative vibes which can be transfered it used too much away fron its true purpose.

Once you place it back, you should clean it regulary with pure salt from the sea. This should be done where it hangs.

Very good work my friend. The more peole investigating these sort of things the better the balance.

May the force be with you,

y

Just came back. Ammm i did not cleanse it...but as u said it should be done on the spot...

So it is there again..hanging on the branch. It is a semi-public place...from time to time people come by... was not alone there just now...but waited for two teenagers with a motor bike to go away before returning it...(sort of a mountain motor bike...disturbingly loud) not sure why they were there...just to smoke (but they can do it anywhere) or something else...was unusual

North east you say with a crossing on the north west...hmm can u please use the Google map to point the approximate location of crossing and lines and copy paste the url?

I live to north east ...just outside the forest.

North side is practically on the opposite side of where i was...on the other side of the main road (i think)...the side i always considered to be less pleasant...it is sort of a a darker (meaning in a way of brightness) but was just thinking today i should go to that side some more.

Vortex hmm yes the pendulum did move left and right (the head) after i put it on....

What are the properties of what you term vortex? What can it be "used for" or "done there"?

What is the significance of dragon line crossing?

Hello Spregovori ,

Pendulums can be found in all " esoteric -New age " types of store.
They are generally made out of wood, gem stones , glass or metal .
Google " pendulum : images " to see the variety of forms they can have.

However you can also have a go in making one of your own .
That's what the owner of the one you found it.


Here is an article that covers that :

http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art50484.asp

Make your own Pendulum
Kim DeLeary

When you make your own pendulum, you will have a connection to it. It is easy to make your own pendulum. You can use whatever you want to make a pendulum for divination purposes.

When you make your own pendulum, you transfer some of your own energies to it. This can make it seem easier when attempting to tap into your own subconscious mind for the purpose of divination. If you do not want to make your own pendulum, you can also suspend a piece of your own frequently worn jewelry from a string. Either way, the pendulum will be imbued with your energy. By carrying or wearing the pendulum with you, you will keep the connection strong.

You can make a pendulum by simply suspending a button from a string or you can tie the string onto a ring and it is ready. It is that simple. All that is necessary is that the pendulum is heavy enough to pull the string tight though not heavy enough to make your hand uncomfortable.

The weighted object should be symmetrical so that the movements are balanced. Types of material that are used for pendulums are metal, wood, glass, clay, stone, precious stone, and gemstone. You can use plastic as well. You can use whatever you have on hand. It does not have to be fancy at all though crystal pendulums are highly regarded by some people as it believed that the crystal provide clarity into exercises of divination. You can use string, cord or a chain to suspend your weighted object.

If you have string and a ring handy, you can start using your pendulum immediately. This is the easiest divination tool to make for yourself. You can be as creative as you want when making your own pendulum.


Love from me
mudra

Think I have found your crossing.

It should be said that the male line is stronger than the female at this crossing. This could be why you see the darker side of things.

OK Photo time.

http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/28608032.jpg

In this image, the outside of the church, you will see
1 Dooor
2Pillars
3 Blocked out windaows
4 Sided tower
then it moves directly onto the eightsided clock and sphere at the top

Male lines are noted by 2,4,6,8. The six is only used when there is an equal frequency between the 2 lines. As here the male line is greater the female does not feature so much.
Female being
3,5,7,9

So as the lines cross they go into the next layer of the magnetic field which we call Herman or Schumann lines. This is the inner magnetic field and when it comes ot the surface can cause cnacers and other ill beings. When this happens it is very much like a hernia that we get in the abdomen area when a muscle pops out.

Next photo shows the marking of the crossing point.



Looks like a beautiful place.

Get a coat hanger and make some L rods and see what comes up there.

We can go into vortexes later, get this under your belt and then we can move on when you have the feelings that come with this energy.

Happy hunting

T

Inés,

Could you check the lines that I gave you way back to see if the sizes have changed. That is the band width, has it got a larger width?

Cheers love,

t

Here is the link to the google map place

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=46.104037,+14.431051+church&sll=46.166992,14.316666&sspn=0.007891,0.013797&ie=UTF8&ll=46.167483,14.312353&spn=0.003789,0.006899&t=h&z=17&lci=com.panoramio.all

t

Heres something I did for the BBC something to give you and idea of how to follow the lines.

<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/14705100" width="400" height="300" frameborder="0"></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/14705100">Tom Lawless on BBC South</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user3849230">Tom Lawless</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

or heres the link.
http://vimeo.com/14705100

There is another video on that site which needs a password. easylife

Happy watching.

t

lawlessline wrote:Here is the link to the google map place

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=46.104037,+14.431051+church&sll=46.166992,14.316666&sspn=0.007891,0.013797&ie=UTF8&ll=46.167483,14.312353&spn=0.003789,0.006899&t=h&z=17&lci=com.panoramio.all

t

Narf!

This is the church in Škofija Loka...the curch of "saint Jacob". very interesting. Was hoping it is nearer (in the forest) but i can make my way to there...just that it will take longer.

Crossing where the church is..hmm well no big surprise there... sucking all the energy for their distorted teachings...or amm perhaps i am being a bit too harsh with this statement...

Looks like i am about to have a field trip soon.

so even is male, odd is female
the ceiling looks interesting, with the 8 pointed "star" in the middle...

Wonder if i ask the priest...what will the response be...if anything....

saw the video, very interesting to see you

thank you :)

lawlessline wrote:Here is the link to the google map place

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=46.104037,+14.431051+church&sll=46.166992,14.316666&sspn=0.007891,0.013797&ie=UTF8&ll=46.167483,14.312353&spn=0.003789,0.006899&t=h&z=17&lci=com.panoramio.all

I did not manage to get to it during the week. The weather conditions were unfavorable and i could not find a reliable information for church being opened at the time i could get there (using a train and walking).

But i found a thing on the net about someone saying on the internet there is another crossing much more near me....at the church of saint Peter...near the hospital center in our capital city. It is also written where in our capital the lines go...and...it is interesting how "important" buildings are on it.

This picture (below) is above the entrance. It was stated that the two keys represent an opening of sky (could be heaven) and earth and that also at the same time this represents a crossing.


It was also stated that this lines are usually represented with a angel Michael, Maria with a snake and saint George.


Would be interesting to know more about the vortex in the forest you mentioned....the location is much easier to go to....since it is very close to where i live...

Thats great. Do you have a link to the crossing.

The one crossing I gave you was what I thought was the nearest according to where you were. Where is the Capital to where you are? or where you found the pen.?

The crossing I gave you is not the most important of crossings due to the fact that one line is far stronger than the other. To get the best crossings you need the lines to be equal. Even if they are lesser in magnitude, if they are equal then they can be channeled better than a crossing of one very strong and a weaker one. But when you have two major equal lines there is serious potential.

I have been thinking about you over the last 2 days thinking how you were getting on.

In the video that I did earlier on this page, they comment that there was a crossing at the lamp post. But that was an imbalanced one. The major crossing was at the church where the video starts.

The other thing is that I had never been to that village and everything we found was direct. I didn't know anything about the standing stones, lamp post, and the rest of the info that they didn't put in, war memorials, the pub , cross keys. as the one in your photo of st.peter.

Send me a link tio the info you have and we can get you on to the next level of feeling it through the body. Then you don't need the dowsing rods or pen. you use your own magnetic field.

Man happy for you.
I f you look at the second video on vimeo link (password ; easylife) there you will see the construction side of the churches. This can go right through for the major administration buildings and banks, etc. I can then help you, to help circumnavigate the filters that have been placed on the lines, unlocking their true potential. This is being done naturally by the earth but a helping hand will not go a miss.


We can do the vortex but I think you should practice a bit with the feelings and interaction with your magnetic field and the field of the earth. When you have this you will be able to understand soo muc more. Walk before we run idea.Understand?

The images of Michael, Maria and the serpent and all that is spot on yes the serpent lines as there are called in old Europe.

Those reptiles get everywhere. };~)
Love and earth power to you,

t

The location of the church is: 46.052075,14.518641 (input into the Google maps search)

The location of where i got the info is: http://www.pozitivke.net/article.php?story=20040602104411903 (but it is not in English)

We have dragons in our capital..like dragon bridge etc..and just recently when they opened a renewed bridge they put an interesting statue on it. It is called butchers bridge.

This is one (Satire) of the statues from the front


And this is the same statue from the back



It has no face, it has no smooth surface and it has a.....tail :)

There is another one (the above one is on the bridge) the other one more "human" like is at the beginning of the bridge....it looks like a mutilated human (to me)...i have seen it up close in person...

so this is the other one. The image (Ptolemy i think they call it) is from the back of it...the front is rather horrifying...rib cage opened and twisted inwards....


this is the pic from the front




lol they also put this on (frog they call it)






and this is the dragon bridge



The church in the back...if i am not mistaken....(the "towers" of it) is the church on the map (there are a lot of churches here all over the country...small country...enormous number of churches)

Feel without the accessories.... So i am to go where the crossing is and....try to focus on it...use my intent?

Yes the "old ones" seem to know a lot....


Oh forgot to mention -as silly as it sounds i cant seem to find the second video....

lawlessline wrote:
Inés,

Could you check the lines that I gave you way back to see if the sizes have changed. That is the band width, has it got a larger width?

Cheers love,

t

I'll Tom and 'll let you know .
Give me some time.

ps: I enjoyed watching the vid you posted.
It's good you did

Love from me
mudra

EARTH GRIDS: The Secret Patterns of Gaia's Sacred Sites - Hugh Newman

http://www.themistsofavalon.net/universal-lounge-f8/movies-for-reflection-t608-30.htm#16440

Love Always
mudra

lawlessline wrote:Heres something I did for the BBC something to give you and idea of how to follow the lines.

<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/14705100" width="400" height="300" frameborder="0"></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/14705100">Tom Lawless on BBC South</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user3849230">Tom Lawless</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

or heres the link.
http://vimeo.com/14705100

There is another video on that site which needs a password. easylife

Happy watching.

t

HI Tom, great video. I'll show this to a few scince people i know. This one put a big smile on my face!

Hi Tom, Very interesting vid. Thank you for posting it here. If I recall correctly, crop circles also tend to show up along grid lines where there was underground water.

Welcome Gridkeeper.

There are copper wires, bent into an L shape with the short end in a tube so that the wires can move easily that one can make for dowsing. Dowsing is also used by some for answering questions or looking for electrical surges in homes when testing as to where to place an EMF dampener. For example, we use dampeners on our cell phones, computers, electrical outlets, mircrowave ovens, etc. We have these EMF dampeners all over our home. Here are a couple of thermography scans that illustrate the radiation given off a cell phone effects the human head/blood flow and after a few seconds with a dampener the blood flow returns to normal.

For example:

http://f64wu.v7k52.servertrust.com/Default.asp?Redirected=Y


increase blood flow from cell phone radiation without EMF patch

Studies show that the cellular structure of the blood is affected after a few minutes of holding a cell phone to the head. There are also numerous studies that indicate increase of brain tumors and cancer as a result of exposure to cell phone radiation.


blood flow with the EMF patch

In addition there are a number of people who seem sensitive to earth grid lines and can easily identify where they are just through their senses. This certainly is an interesting topic as grid lines were clearly used by the ancients when they were choosing their building site locations. I do find that fascinating. Why was this important to them?

Gridkeeper ,

I am so happy you found your way to the Mists.
It's really great to have you with us.
Warm welcome to you .

Love from me
mudra