It has become apparent that when any faction bypasses the cycle of natural death, chaos result. The Egyptians were masters of doing just that. Where instead of returning to Heaven and being debriefed so that the soul can evaluate what is best for it, and then reincarnate to achieve that balance of soul growth, the soul goes to a different place that is controlled by a faction who by that control, steers their agenda of control by reinserting it using that soul body. Kind of like recycling a tire, over and over and over. It degrades with time and as to how many cycles. You could also say that about cloning.
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Well, looks like coffee brake is over. 
As I was given some indication that writing some information was not a good idea. words were simply disappearing as I would write. So I took it to mean that a coffee brake was in order. Today I've been spurred on to do a bit more writing. It involves triggers, and the nature of the triggers that opened me up to this Egyptian past, and the implications that going inside yourself to get the answers that you won't find on the internet, I happened to notice that AV1 is back online. So I've spent most of the day coping the trigger points that led to this and am going to map out how they came to bring me to this state of "knowing". But as I have said all along, remember it is my perceptions. It is for you to do the same to validate what you perceive and see if it lines up.
When you do this type of inside investigation, and realize the validating points, then you gain a whole new perspective on this reality that we perceive. Triggers of all sorts seemed to be haunting me in one of the threads I was writing. And at several points, I actually was arguing with myself to write the last post on my knowing and freedom thread, as it involved religion. I was sure if I would have to defend my stance in that post. For after all, I had been viciously attacked for trying to explain the dangers of the ego self and leaving it behind. When in fact several times I was trying to say not to be led by the society given perception of "self' and understand there is a knowing inside, that the ego self, through "conditioning" of society had very successfully blocked the true self. Never once did I subscribe to giving up who you are in this "now" incarnation. In fact it's a great part of why you are here now. You chose to be here to experience what ever it is you have to this point. But you have to understand on another level, you are not being allowed to perceive who you truly are in many cases, as you might be conditioned to believe you are helpless, not worthy, unable to achieve that state you hunger to realize by reading scores of pages written by those in the "know". That conditioned perception of self created by the society structure that creates this "ego" perception, and as such hides that inner self.
Abilities. Plain and simple abilities of your very being are being hidden from you, and many cannot see they even have them. Why am I bringing this to you now? Because I must have reached a new level of knowing. And now it's not imperative to remember the past memories but to "filter" the memories, to gain "knowing" of those very abilities that I carry. It was recently brought to my attention that the "pains" of some extreme memories, such as the ceremony, are not necessary now for me to sift through. Now it's time to realize the abilities and powers within that should be focused on. Call it a graduation of self realization, where focus on the past is now considered water under the bridge, and "now" is what is important to focus on. Those abilities I carry to deal with the information gathered.
Will I recant the past to understand the triggers that brought this inner knowing? It would seem that would be the case to understand the use of those abilities. Filtering is what was told to me. Now, think of the many incarnations of knowledge that have led to this pivotal time, and ask yourself what it is that you have within you that has brought you to this point in time?
I'm going to recant some key points that brought about the triggers of memories that led to this for me. And you should use this information to relate your present situation that has brought you to this pivotal time. I will also add, how extremely important it is to trust your intuition. Pay attention to those "thoughts" that you so easily dismiss. Lots of time as wishful thinking. Or possibly thoughts of perception that you feel is inner turmoil, brought about by fears, or even great joys seen by self as hope and not as true intuition. Whatever the case might be, it should not be dismissed so easily. Many is the time that I thought I was simply exaggerating my view in a specific area due to those types of thoughts. Only to find I was on the money with the direction of those thoughts. Trust the first impression, as it's usually spot on.
So bottom line. I'm going to discuss some of those trigger points that led to this for me, and show how it relates for you in those aspects of "knowing" and "self realization", and how bringing this may actually trigger those "abilities' you carry within.
I give you the blue lotus that was the scent in that room I was stuck in for so long. the one that awakened my senses and is so prevalently used by the Egyptians to open the portals within your DNA to remember and awaken to self.
Note this smaller picture and try to get a first impression as to the meaning.
Notice the lotus and the ones perched upon it.....
And don't forget, that is Ptah at the throne
As I was given some indication that writing some information was not a good idea. words were simply disappearing as I would write. So I took it to mean that a coffee brake was in order. Today I've been spurred on to do a bit more writing. It involves triggers, and the nature of the triggers that opened me up to this Egyptian past, and the implications that going inside yourself to get the answers that you won't find on the internet, I happened to notice that AV1 is back online. So I've spent most of the day coping the trigger points that led to this and am going to map out how they came to bring me to this state of "knowing". But as I have said all along, remember it is my perceptions. It is for you to do the same to validate what you perceive and see if it lines up.
When you do this type of inside investigation, and realize the validating points, then you gain a whole new perspective on this reality that we perceive. Triggers of all sorts seemed to be haunting me in one of the threads I was writing. And at several points, I actually was arguing with myself to write the last post on my knowing and freedom thread, as it involved religion. I was sure if I would have to defend my stance in that post. For after all, I had been viciously attacked for trying to explain the dangers of the ego self and leaving it behind. When in fact several times I was trying to say not to be led by the society given perception of "self' and understand there is a knowing inside, that the ego self, through "conditioning" of society had very successfully blocked the true self. Never once did I subscribe to giving up who you are in this "now" incarnation. In fact it's a great part of why you are here now. You chose to be here to experience what ever it is you have to this point. But you have to understand on another level, you are not being allowed to perceive who you truly are in many cases, as you might be conditioned to believe you are helpless, not worthy, unable to achieve that state you hunger to realize by reading scores of pages written by those in the "know". That conditioned perception of self created by the society structure that creates this "ego" perception, and as such hides that inner self.
Abilities. Plain and simple abilities of your very being are being hidden from you, and many cannot see they even have them. Why am I bringing this to you now? Because I must have reached a new level of knowing. And now it's not imperative to remember the past memories but to "filter" the memories, to gain "knowing" of those very abilities that I carry. It was recently brought to my attention that the "pains" of some extreme memories, such as the ceremony, are not necessary now for me to sift through. Now it's time to realize the abilities and powers within that should be focused on. Call it a graduation of self realization, where focus on the past is now considered water under the bridge, and "now" is what is important to focus on. Those abilities I carry to deal with the information gathered.
Will I recant the past to understand the triggers that brought this inner knowing? It would seem that would be the case to understand the use of those abilities. Filtering is what was told to me. Now, think of the many incarnations of knowledge that have led to this pivotal time, and ask yourself what it is that you have within you that has brought you to this point in time?
I'm going to recant some key points that brought about the triggers of memories that led to this for me. And you should use this information to relate your present situation that has brought you to this pivotal time. I will also add, how extremely important it is to trust your intuition. Pay attention to those "thoughts" that you so easily dismiss. Lots of time as wishful thinking. Or possibly thoughts of perception that you feel is inner turmoil, brought about by fears, or even great joys seen by self as hope and not as true intuition. Whatever the case might be, it should not be dismissed so easily. Many is the time that I thought I was simply exaggerating my view in a specific area due to those types of thoughts. Only to find I was on the money with the direction of those thoughts. Trust the first impression, as it's usually spot on.
So bottom line. I'm going to discuss some of those trigger points that led to this for me, and show how it relates for you in those aspects of "knowing" and "self realization", and how bringing this may actually trigger those "abilities' you carry within.
I give you the blue lotus that was the scent in that room I was stuck in for so long. the one that awakened my senses and is so prevalently used by the Egyptians to open the portals within your DNA to remember and awaken to self.
The blue lily or Nymphaea Caerulea (blue lotus) was represented in
ancient Egyptian art. Its common name is Blue Lotus, Egyptian Lotus,
Blue Water Lily, Sacred Narcotic Lily of the Nile.
The blue lotus was found scattered over Tutankhamen's body when the Pharaoh's tomb was opened in 1922. ”.
In wall paintings on Egyptian ruins you can see they really loved this
flower. It's fragrant with a nice fruity scent. There are wall frescoes
with Egyptians smelling the blossoms. It's even thought to be narcotic.
They even infused their wine with the blossoms.
Many historians
thought it was a purely symbolic flower, but there may be some reason
to believe that ancient Egyptians used it to induce an ecstatic state,
stimulation, and/or hallucinations, as well as being widely used as a
general remedy against illness, old age disease and to this day is used
as a tonic for good health. For some, it may act as an aphrodisiac.
Provides a relaxing euphoric sensation. It may help relieve muscle spasms. Ancient Egyptians used blue lotus flower as a strong aphrodisiac.
Egyptian medicinal practitioners also used this flower to stimulate
blood flow, and as an anti aging treatment. The ancients worshiped Blue
Lotus as a visionary plant and it was the symbol for the origins of
life. When this flower was soaked in water or wine, and then ingested
it acted as an intoxicant. The Indians and Buddhist highly respected it
for its visionary properties. This flower creates a feeling of well
being, euphoria and ecstasy.
Medicinal Uses
Egyptian
Blue Lotus is a sedative, antispasmodic, and enthnogen. In recent
research, it was found that it contains substances that are more potent
than today’s mostly wanted “viagra”.
Note this smaller picture and try to get a first impression as to the meaning.
Notice the lotus and the ones perched upon it.....
And don't forget, that is Ptah at the throne
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Perhaps that's why viagra is blue...
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burgundia wrote:Perhaps that's why viagra is blue...
Yes and check ingredients ...... may contain lotus pedals. hehe
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Blue pills huh? hahaha
The thing to realize here is the state of these folks in their prime existence. And from the outside looking in, you would thing they walked around it a euphoric daze of sorts. but think again. This powerful little flower, had great meaning to the Egyptians. It was used not only as a recreational drug, but in the ritual of most of their most powerful uses.
It is and still today used in ritual. Now you all remember this picture I'm sure. Supposed to be a lotus flower?
Austrian“ancient astronaut authors” Peter Krassa and Reinhard
Habeck have posited that these “serpent cells” are
light bulbs. Firstly, they argue that some form of high-tech lighting
system would have been required to do whatever was done in this
crypt, it being far removed from natural daylight. They further
argue that the snakes represent the electric current; the lotus
flower, from which the snake issues forth, is seen as the socket
of the bulb. Specifically, Geissler and Crookes tubes have been
put forward as the “likeliest” devices that these
light bulbs depict. Their conclusion is that the ancient Egyptians
were, “light bulb wise”, as technically advanced as
we were in the 20th century.
Though naturally sceptical of these interpretations, Egyptologists
are nevertheless quite silent about the depictions in this chamber.
They have explained the scene as lotus flowers spawning a snake,
symbolizing creation as a manifestation of consciousness.
Robert Temple speculates that a ritual was performed inside this
chamber and hints at the presence of the scent of the blue lotus,
and that the chamber might have been filled with the blossoms
at the proper season, or “otherwise some method of capturing
the scent and the alkaloids in concentrated form may have been
used.” The blue lotus was linked with immortality, but also
with ecstasy and access to the other world, perhaps through hallucinogenic
means, as some researchers have tried to explore.
“Symbolizing
creation as a manifestation of consciousness” is an interesting
conclusion for Egyptologists to draw. First of all, it is a conclusion
that is not your standard Egyptological “stuff”. If
anything, it is in correspondence with quantum mechanics, which
postulates that conscious thought creates reality. As such, this
subterranean chamber could be seen as a “thought chamber”,
in which the ancient Egyptians tried to manifest – or at
least depict – how they tried to manifest reality, which
in their realm was all about how order should control chaos, for
the greater good of Man and the Egyptian nation.
However controversial the “light bulb” theory is, electricity
is a raw power of the universe, and hence quite similar to the
“raw power of magic”.
http://www.philipcoppens.com/denderah.html
The djed pillar is indeed an
expression of power; the snake is indeed a current, of life. And
the baboon-like demon holding two knives, which are interpreted
as a protective and defensive power, is not so much electricity,
but magical protection. When von Däniken wrote that “the
monkey with the sharpened knives symbolizes the danger that awaits
those who do not understand the device”, he is absolutely
correct – for those who tangle with magic and do not understand,
are indeed as dead as being hit by an electric discharge.
The thing to realize here is the state of these folks in their prime existence. And from the outside looking in, you would thing they walked around it a euphoric daze of sorts. but think again. This powerful little flower, had great meaning to the Egyptians. It was used not only as a recreational drug, but in the ritual of most of their most powerful uses.
It is and still today used in ritual. Now you all remember this picture I'm sure. Supposed to be a lotus flower?
Austrian“ancient astronaut authors” Peter Krassa and Reinhard
Habeck have posited that these “serpent cells” are
light bulbs. Firstly, they argue that some form of high-tech lighting
system would have been required to do whatever was done in this
crypt, it being far removed from natural daylight. They further
argue that the snakes represent the electric current; the lotus
flower, from which the snake issues forth, is seen as the socket
of the bulb. Specifically, Geissler and Crookes tubes have been
put forward as the “likeliest” devices that these
light bulbs depict. Their conclusion is that the ancient Egyptians
were, “light bulb wise”, as technically advanced as
we were in the 20th century.
Though naturally sceptical of these interpretations, Egyptologists
are nevertheless quite silent about the depictions in this chamber.
They have explained the scene as lotus flowers spawning a snake,
symbolizing creation as a manifestation of consciousness.
Robert Temple speculates that a ritual was performed inside this
chamber and hints at the presence of the scent of the blue lotus,
and that the chamber might have been filled with the blossoms
at the proper season, or “otherwise some method of capturing
the scent and the alkaloids in concentrated form may have been
used.” The blue lotus was linked with immortality, but also
with ecstasy and access to the other world, perhaps through hallucinogenic
means, as some researchers have tried to explore.
“Symbolizing
creation as a manifestation of consciousness” is an interesting
conclusion for Egyptologists to draw. First of all, it is a conclusion
that is not your standard Egyptological “stuff”. If
anything, it is in correspondence with quantum mechanics, which
postulates that conscious thought creates reality. As such, this
subterranean chamber could be seen as a “thought chamber”,
in which the ancient Egyptians tried to manifest – or at
least depict – how they tried to manifest reality, which
in their realm was all about how order should control chaos, for
the greater good of Man and the Egyptian nation.
However controversial the “light bulb” theory is, electricity
is a raw power of the universe, and hence quite similar to the
“raw power of magic”.
http://www.philipcoppens.com/denderah.html
The djed pillar is indeed an
expression of power; the snake is indeed a current, of life. And
the baboon-like demon holding two knives, which are interpreted
as a protective and defensive power, is not so much electricity,
but magical protection. When von Däniken wrote that “the
monkey with the sharpened knives symbolizes the danger that awaits
those who do not understand the device”, he is absolutely
correct – for those who tangle with magic and do not understand,
are indeed as dead as being hit by an electric discharge.
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It is the flash of a firefly in the night, the breath of a buffalo in the wintertime. It is the little shadow which runs across the grass and loses itself in the sunset.
With deepest respect ~ Aloha & Mahalo, Carol
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Now why would I bring ritual magic into the theme of bringing out and filtering abilities? Because it's on the forefront of the room I was stuck in. High magic, with on looking high priests of the Pharaoh himself. With the Pharaoh onlooking to see if it was a success when the stage was set. Remember the Owl, and the scene before entering the second room? If you are unfamiliar with the ritual, it is on page 26 of this thread and post number 385.
It would appear that ritual magic was extremely useful to these folks in the Egyptian Hierarchy. Thoth and Isis said to be the most powerful magicians in the world. And it is quite prevalent in most utilized magic today. Isis and Thoth both are used in ritual magic on a regualr basis. Be it 'white" magic or "black magic".
Now further back on this thread I expressed that I personally shy away from this practice, as it would seem although I have an inner "knowing" of this stuff. I also understand the powerful and dark side of it that can consume those who partake. take a look at Crowley as an example. He was mesmerized with Thoth. He even fashioned his oracle deck with the Emerald Tablets in the form of "discs". I also expressed that several have sensed in me the "ability" of being a natural witch. meaning I had that tendency within me. Not something I would care to partake in. But lets get back to 'abilities'.
The art of this practice would involve, 'intent', serious 'grounding', and most of all, "manifestation". The use of the auric field is in this manifestation process in ritual magic is of utmost importance. As well as using directional "points", such as north, south, east and west. Being used is the direction of electrical charged particles within those points.
Now lets look at those who use the hands on healing arts. They are using a ritual of directing energy as well. so it would be safe to say, that the Egyptian high priests, and the most powerful magicians such as Thoth, and Isis, used directional "energy" in the form of manifesting. would you agree? Now ramp up those "abilities" with the technology of the discs, and you have a factory of highly charged energy particles to manifest and direct.
We're one with the stars
It would appear that ritual magic was extremely useful to these folks in the Egyptian Hierarchy. Thoth and Isis said to be the most powerful magicians in the world. And it is quite prevalent in most utilized magic today. Isis and Thoth both are used in ritual magic on a regualr basis. Be it 'white" magic or "black magic".
Now further back on this thread I expressed that I personally shy away from this practice, as it would seem although I have an inner "knowing" of this stuff. I also understand the powerful and dark side of it that can consume those who partake. take a look at Crowley as an example. He was mesmerized with Thoth. He even fashioned his oracle deck with the Emerald Tablets in the form of "discs". I also expressed that several have sensed in me the "ability" of being a natural witch. meaning I had that tendency within me. Not something I would care to partake in. But lets get back to 'abilities'.
The art of this practice would involve, 'intent', serious 'grounding', and most of all, "manifestation". The use of the auric field is in this manifestation process in ritual magic is of utmost importance. As well as using directional "points", such as north, south, east and west. Being used is the direction of electrical charged particles within those points.
Now lets look at those who use the hands on healing arts. They are using a ritual of directing energy as well. so it would be safe to say, that the Egyptian high priests, and the most powerful magicians such as Thoth, and Isis, used directional "energy" in the form of manifesting. would you agree? Now ramp up those "abilities" with the technology of the discs, and you have a factory of highly charged energy particles to manifest and direct.
We're one with the stars
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Reunite wrote:From the trusty Fox News, a Baboon God?
Baboon God Statue Found in Ancient Egyptian Ruins
Published December 16, 2010 | FoxNews.com
Two statuary fragments recently uncovered at the mortuary temple of Amenhotep III in Luxor. On the left is the head of the baboon god, Hapi, and on the right are the legs of another red granite statue.
Archaeologists have discovered fragments of a statue of a pharaoh and an ancient god during a routine excavation at what was once the largest temple in ancient Egypt, culture minister Farouk Hosni said on Thursday.
According to Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities, the fragments -- the legs of King Amenhotep III and a bust of the god Hapi depicted as a baboon -- were uncovered in the ruins of Amenhotep’s mortuary temple on the west bank of Luxor, Upper Egypt.
Work has been ongoing to uncover the ruins of the once powerful king’s funerary complex, the largest of its kind before it collapsed over 2,000 years ago during the Late Period. Although the blocks were reused in the construction of other temples, it is believed that the northern side of the temple served as a burial spot for broken.
"Because the statuary were ritually significant, they could not be destroyed," said antiquities chief Zahi Hawass, who headed the excavation.
"The excavation team is still digging to find fragments of the double statue. It is the first of its kind as it depicts the king seated with the god Hapi, one of the four sons of Horus, beside him."
In the last two years, five double statues of King Amenhotep III accompanied by the deities: Re-Horakhti, Khepri, Horus, and Hapi have been found.
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/12/16/egypt-statue-discovered-ancient-ruins/
Last edited by Micjer on Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:51 am; edited 2 times in total
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Micjer wrote:Reunite wrote:From the trusty Fox News, a Baboon God?
Baboon God Statue Found in Ancient Egyptian Ruins
Published December 16, 2010 | FoxNews.com
Two statuary fragments recently uncovered at the mortuary temple of Amenhotep III in Luxor. On the left is the head of the baboon god, Hapi, and on the right are the legs of another red granite statue.
Archaeologists have discovered fragments of a statue of a pharaoh and an ancient god during a routine excavation at what was once the largest temple in ancient Egypt, culture minister Farouk Hosni said on Thursday.
According to Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities, the fragments -- the legs of King Amenhotep III and a bust of the god Hapi depicted as a baboon -- were uncovered in the ruins of Amenhotep’s mortuary temple on the west bank of Luxor, Upper Egypt.
Work has been ongoing to uncover the ruins of the once powerful king’s funerary complex, the largest of its kind before it collapsed over 2,000 years ago during the Late Period. Although the blocks were reused in the construction of other temples, it is believed that the northern side of the temple served as a burial spot for broken.
"Because the statuary were ritually significant, they could not be destroyed," said antiquities chief Zahi Hawass, who headed the excavation.
"The excavation team is still digging to find fragments of the double statue. It is the first of its kind as it depicts the king seated with the god Hapi, one of the four sons of Horus, beside him."
In the last two years, five double statues of King Amenhotep III accompanied by the deities: Re-Horakhti, Khepri, Horus, and Hapi have been found.
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/12/16/egypt-statue-discovered-ancient-ruins/
Interesting there was a baboon in the glyph, Brook. The above was a link from Reunite on another forum.
http://theforceiswithinyou.twilightlegend.net/t4309-baboon-god-statue-found-in-ancient-egyptian-ruins
The baboons and monkeys in general are sacred animals in Egypt.
I might as well add, that I have two "power animals"...one is the Falcon, the other is a Monkey
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Now if you'll also remember I told you of the ritual that took place in the tomb of Osiris when Isis was supposed to impregnate herself with his seed to produce Horus. But in fact what I saw was Sekhmet and Ra making Isis the mother of their seed through artificial insemination. but in this same article above here is what is said....
Horus, who “was believed to have sprung into existence out of a
lotus flower which blossomed in the heavenly abyss of Nu at dawn
at the beginning of the year.” Hence, this scene depicts
the birth of the divine Horus, on New Year. And with this detail,
as placed within the proper context, do we begin to realize that
what was is depicted in this scene, is the hieros gamos, the sacred
marriage.
Horus, who “was believed to have sprung into existence out of a
lotus flower which blossomed in the heavenly abyss of Nu at dawn
at the beginning of the year.” Hence, this scene depicts
the birth of the divine Horus, on New Year. And with this detail,
as placed within the proper context, do we begin to realize that
what was is depicted in this scene, is the hieros gamos, the sacred
marriage.
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The Baboons and Monkeys of Ancient Egypt
by Royce Hiller
In ancient Egypt, baboons and monkeys often play a significant and mysterious role in religion
and elsewhere. This somehow seems strange, as there are certainly no
native monkeys or baboons to Egypt, nor have there been for some time
stretching back to antiquity. However, it is clear that prehistoric
Egyptians of the fourth millennium BC were familiar with monkeys,
including the imposing and dangerous baboons and the African
long-tailed monkey. Since that time, they have held a permanent place
in ancient Egyptian religion as one of the more important animal forms
into which the gods might be transformed. Also the very word "baboon"
may be derived from ancient Egypt, perhaps from a linguistic root that
characterized its sexual activities.
It seems likely that various types of monkeys inhabited the
landscape of Egypt in the earliest of times. Prehistory saw a much
wetter region with a landscape considerably greener than today, and the
process of its drying out into mostly desert with only the fertile Nile
ribbon cutting through the country, together with a few scattered
oasis, may have been taking place even into Egypt's Old Kingdom.
It is very possible that even during the Old Kingdom times, baboons and
monkeys may still have lived in the southern part of Upper Egypt,
though today their range is limited to southern Arabia (hamadryas),
Ethiopia (monkeys), and the steppes of the Sudan (baboon). However,
irregardless of tomb paintings depicting monkeys during the Middle Kingdom,
it is doubtful that there remained indigenous populations of these
animals by that late date.
By the New Kingdom, monkeys were being imported to Egypt, usually from Nubia or the land of Punt.
Apparently they were kept in various capacities, perhaps even as pets,
but they also were held in colonies by the temples, as were other
animals that were associated with the gods. Within these sacred troops,
there were probably births, though the rearing of these animals was
probably only partially successful. By the Late Period,
we find buried in the necropolises various such animals including
hamadryas or the sacred baboon (papio hamadryas), baboons (Papio
cynocephalus anubis), green monkeys (Cercopithecus aethiops), red
monkeys (Cercopithecus pata), and the barbary ape (Macaca sylvanus).
Though many of these animals were considered to be a vessel that
could be inhabited by the gods, and must have been given considerable
care, investigations into the animal necropolises of Saqqara and particularly Tuna el-Gebel
have revealed that their life expectancy in Egypt was very limited. Of
the two hundred or so specimens that have been examined, hardly any
lived into their sixth through tenth years. Unfavorable living
conditions resulted in undernourishment and the lack of freedom of
movement and sunlight led to rickets, degenerative bone diseases and
probably tuberculosis. While the knowledge of the ancient Egyptians may
even today be impressive to us, they seem to have lacked the ability to
provide the proper care for these animals.
Beyond religious uses, monkeys were also certainly kept as pets in
the houses of the upper class, though they were unlikely to have been
allowed to roam the house, despite the depiction of green monkeys, as
well as cats, geese and ducks, under the chair of the wife of a tomb
owner. Green monkeys are actually dangerous animals, and they must have
been kept firmly on leashes, as they are usually depicted in tribute
scenes.
Monkeys and baboons were also later exported from, or at least
through Egypt to various locales such as to the Assyrian court and to
Syria. A few monkey keepers even appear in the Assyrian city of Nineveh.
The mysteriousness of the monkey in Egyptian art comes from an
inference of symbiosis involving humans and monkeys. As early as the Old Kingdom,
we find scenes depicting monkeys engaged in various human activities,
many of which were questionable while some were impossible. Various
scenes depict these creatures performing dances and playing music,
participating in fig harvests or climbing dom palms and throwing the
fruit down. They are present at winepresses or beer making, and even
helping with the morning toilet in the women's chamber. They appear
unrealistically rigging sea going boats and in boat building scenes.
During the New Kingdom,
on ostraca and papyri, there are particularly common depictions of
monkeys portrayed in various playful human poses. However, scholars
such as Deiter Kessler believe that there were no trained monkeys in
ancient Egypt, and that most such scenes have some sort of
"religio-theological function", though particularly on New Kingdom
ostraca there may have also been an element of humor.
We probably do not completely comprehend the significance of monkeys
and baboons in Egyptian religious symbolism, but there is no doubt that
they were kept as ritual animals since the earliest periods of Egyptian
history. The fact that baboons displayed human characteristics may have
contributed to the early identification of the deceased ruler with the
animal. It is even possible that mummified baboons were used to
represent the deceased royal ancestors of the Predynastic
chieftains. During the ceremony to renew the physical world and the
person of the ruler, the individual ancestors were ritually deified in
the form of baboons and received cultic offerings. The erection of
wooden kiosks containing ancestor baboons at the sed-festival of royal
rejuvenation may have developed from this earlier practice. An image of
a baboon representing King Narmer,
erected by an official, implicitly suggest the transformation of the
king into a baboon, no doubt as part of a rejuvenation festival. The
king was identified with a baboon god known as the "Great White One."
Some scholars believe that the title of this god is derived from the
silver-gray mane of a dominant hamadryas. There are also small, Early
Dynastic plaques that show the king or priests performing the
Opening of the Mouth ceremony and transfiguration before monkeys.
However, monkeys were not necessarily considered benevolent creatures.
There were rites involving monkeys that are documented by early
illustrations and alter by religious texts that describe the danger of
monkeys "who cut off heads". In fact, the image of a baboon with raised
tail serves as the hieroglyph for "enraged". The baboon's wildness made
it into a dangerous, apotropaic intercessory, being the primordial
creation in a mythical landscape. For example, four baboon-like
creatures guarded the mythical "Lake of Fire" in the Egyptian
underworld.
Monkeys and baboons played an essential role in Egyptian cosmogony.
Various gods were portrayed as these creatures, and some of the
earliest deities were sometimes depicted with baboon heads. One of the Four Sons of Horus,
Hapy, who was associated with mummification, was represented as a
baboon-headed canopic god. The green monkey, particularly when depicted
shooting with bow and arrows, was an aspect of the invisible primeval
god, Atum.
The baboon also became an aspect of the sun god Re, as well as of the moon god Thoth-Khonsu.
The ancient Egyptians who observed the baboon barking at the rising sun
gave rise to a favorite theme in sculpture, paintings and reliefs of a
baboon worshiping the sun with raised hands. Monkey demons as the
companion of the sun god appear in the royal netherworld texts, though
along side their positive role was the dangerous aspect of the baboon,
whose form could also be assumed by the enemy of the gods such as
Apophis and Seth.
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/baboons.htm
by Royce Hiller
In ancient Egypt, baboons and monkeys often play a significant and mysterious role in religion
and elsewhere. This somehow seems strange, as there are certainly no
native monkeys or baboons to Egypt, nor have there been for some time
stretching back to antiquity. However, it is clear that prehistoric
Egyptians of the fourth millennium BC were familiar with monkeys,
including the imposing and dangerous baboons and the African
long-tailed monkey. Since that time, they have held a permanent place
in ancient Egyptian religion as one of the more important animal forms
into which the gods might be transformed. Also the very word "baboon"
may be derived from ancient Egypt, perhaps from a linguistic root that
characterized its sexual activities.
It seems likely that various types of monkeys inhabited the
landscape of Egypt in the earliest of times. Prehistory saw a much
wetter region with a landscape considerably greener than today, and the
process of its drying out into mostly desert with only the fertile Nile
ribbon cutting through the country, together with a few scattered
oasis, may have been taking place even into Egypt's Old Kingdom.
It is very possible that even during the Old Kingdom times, baboons and
monkeys may still have lived in the southern part of Upper Egypt,
though today their range is limited to southern Arabia (hamadryas),
Ethiopia (monkeys), and the steppes of the Sudan (baboon). However,
irregardless of tomb paintings depicting monkeys during the Middle Kingdom,
it is doubtful that there remained indigenous populations of these
animals by that late date.
By the New Kingdom, monkeys were being imported to Egypt, usually from Nubia or the land of Punt.
Apparently they were kept in various capacities, perhaps even as pets,
but they also were held in colonies by the temples, as were other
animals that were associated with the gods. Within these sacred troops,
there were probably births, though the rearing of these animals was
probably only partially successful. By the Late Period,
we find buried in the necropolises various such animals including
hamadryas or the sacred baboon (papio hamadryas), baboons (Papio
cynocephalus anubis), green monkeys (Cercopithecus aethiops), red
monkeys (Cercopithecus pata), and the barbary ape (Macaca sylvanus).
Though many of these animals were considered to be a vessel that
could be inhabited by the gods, and must have been given considerable
care, investigations into the animal necropolises of Saqqara and particularly Tuna el-Gebel
have revealed that their life expectancy in Egypt was very limited. Of
the two hundred or so specimens that have been examined, hardly any
lived into their sixth through tenth years. Unfavorable living
conditions resulted in undernourishment and the lack of freedom of
movement and sunlight led to rickets, degenerative bone diseases and
probably tuberculosis. While the knowledge of the ancient Egyptians may
even today be impressive to us, they seem to have lacked the ability to
provide the proper care for these animals.
Beyond religious uses, monkeys were also certainly kept as pets in
the houses of the upper class, though they were unlikely to have been
allowed to roam the house, despite the depiction of green monkeys, as
well as cats, geese and ducks, under the chair of the wife of a tomb
owner. Green monkeys are actually dangerous animals, and they must have
been kept firmly on leashes, as they are usually depicted in tribute
scenes.
Monkeys and baboons were also later exported from, or at least
through Egypt to various locales such as to the Assyrian court and to
Syria. A few monkey keepers even appear in the Assyrian city of Nineveh.
The mysteriousness of the monkey in Egyptian art comes from an
inference of symbiosis involving humans and monkeys. As early as the Old Kingdom,
we find scenes depicting monkeys engaged in various human activities,
many of which were questionable while some were impossible. Various
scenes depict these creatures performing dances and playing music,
participating in fig harvests or climbing dom palms and throwing the
fruit down. They are present at winepresses or beer making, and even
helping with the morning toilet in the women's chamber. They appear
unrealistically rigging sea going boats and in boat building scenes.
During the New Kingdom,
on ostraca and papyri, there are particularly common depictions of
monkeys portrayed in various playful human poses. However, scholars
such as Deiter Kessler believe that there were no trained monkeys in
ancient Egypt, and that most such scenes have some sort of
"religio-theological function", though particularly on New Kingdom
ostraca there may have also been an element of humor.
We probably do not completely comprehend the significance of monkeys
and baboons in Egyptian religious symbolism, but there is no doubt that
they were kept as ritual animals since the earliest periods of Egyptian
history. The fact that baboons displayed human characteristics may have
contributed to the early identification of the deceased ruler with the
animal. It is even possible that mummified baboons were used to
represent the deceased royal ancestors of the Predynastic
chieftains. During the ceremony to renew the physical world and the
person of the ruler, the individual ancestors were ritually deified in
the form of baboons and received cultic offerings. The erection of
wooden kiosks containing ancestor baboons at the sed-festival of royal
rejuvenation may have developed from this earlier practice. An image of
a baboon representing King Narmer,
erected by an official, implicitly suggest the transformation of the
king into a baboon, no doubt as part of a rejuvenation festival. The
king was identified with a baboon god known as the "Great White One."
Some scholars believe that the title of this god is derived from the
silver-gray mane of a dominant hamadryas. There are also small, Early
Dynastic plaques that show the king or priests performing the
Opening of the Mouth ceremony and transfiguration before monkeys.
However, monkeys were not necessarily considered benevolent creatures.
There were rites involving monkeys that are documented by early
illustrations and alter by religious texts that describe the danger of
monkeys "who cut off heads". In fact, the image of a baboon with raised
tail serves as the hieroglyph for "enraged". The baboon's wildness made
it into a dangerous, apotropaic intercessory, being the primordial
creation in a mythical landscape. For example, four baboon-like
creatures guarded the mythical "Lake of Fire" in the Egyptian
underworld.
Monkeys and baboons played an essential role in Egyptian cosmogony.
Various gods were portrayed as these creatures, and some of the
earliest deities were sometimes depicted with baboon heads. One of the Four Sons of Horus,
Hapy, who was associated with mummification, was represented as a
baboon-headed canopic god. The green monkey, particularly when depicted
shooting with bow and arrows, was an aspect of the invisible primeval
god, Atum.
The baboon also became an aspect of the sun god Re, as well as of the moon god Thoth-Khonsu.
The ancient Egyptians who observed the baboon barking at the rising sun
gave rise to a favorite theme in sculpture, paintings and reliefs of a
baboon worshiping the sun with raised hands. Monkey demons as the
companion of the sun god appear in the royal netherworld texts, though
along side their positive role was the dangerous aspect of the baboon,
whose form could also be assumed by the enemy of the gods such as
Apophis and Seth.
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/baboons.htm
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
Back on track, forget the monkeys for a moment and lets get back to the Ritual of Magic practice. I will now introduce the "thelemic code". thelemic in Greek means "will". and in the practice of magic ritual Through societal conditioning and circumstances, many of us have lost touch with our fundamental selves, and in our tradition we seek to reconnect with our inner nature. Will does not mean following every whim or gratifying every impulse, but holding to your own truth and continuing on your desired path despite external and internal distractions. As fire is fueled by kindling, "will" is fueled by finding options and making choices in attitude and action.
Thelemic Wicca is a tradition that recognizes the contributions of Aleister Crowley’s brand of ceremonial magic, and emphasizes the discovery and development of each person's true will. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Love is the law, love under will. This is the code of Thelemic Wicca.
Similarly, the phrase "you create your own reality", so often mindlessly mouthed by many who insulate themselves in New Age superficiality, essentially promotes the idea that there is no objective reality, making us responsible not only for the choices we make but what befalls us as well. This philosophy places an unhealthy level of guilt upon the individual by enforcing upon them a demand for control over any situations where they logically may have none.
There are certain people who have the ability to communicate with intensity that most can only aspire to. Aleister Crowley was definitely one of these people, an acknowledged master of "language" and, if evidence serves us, able to create profound experiences merely by his presence. We may also speculate that some measure of this talent, was responsible for his great feats of self-transformation. Of course, Crowley was not the only one who has had this kind of ability. George Gurdjieff (for instance) claimed to be a potent hypnotist, who could affect changes without the knowledge of his students. We can ascribe this power of subtle communication, if we wish, to many religious and political leaders throughout history. But do we understand how it works? And, beyond that, is it useful to us in our True Will?
A new understanding of hypnosis began in the mid twentieth century with the work of psychotherapist Dr. Milton Erickson. He was a keen observer, and was able to map out in his mind, any number of parallel avenues of communication that ranged from the most obvious verbal forms, to a whole range of things that are often lumped together in the category of "body language." Erickson was able, to monitor a patient's breathing and heart rate, strictly from external cues (what he could see with his eyes ), while listening and communicating in the course of his work. He soon discovered that this ability was incredibly useful in understanding and creating dramatic and lasting change in his clients.
Practitioners of magic identify experiences with specific words, symbols and smells. Everything in ritual chosen for its purity and ability to "anchor". For example the used of a "magical" robe, which is worn only for ritual purposes, becomes so associated with that work the the very act of putting it on may produce an exalted state of mind. Crowley relates that he was so "anchored" to his asana position that, years after he ceased to practice regularly, merely assuming the position would produce a state of profound relaxation.
It's important to understand that anchoring the energy of specific "words", or 'concepts" will trigger the senses. for example, visual, auditory, kinesthetic (feeling), and olfactory/gustatory (smell/taste). The first three are most often in use, smell and taste (which are closely linked) only come into play in specific situations. So ask yourself, "What do I like the best about the place where I live?" What is your first response? Was it the way the place looked? The quietness or something that you might hear? Or perhaps the feeling of comfort that you get being there? Another example, your concentration on the elemental quality of fire is restricted to just seeing the color red sweep through, you can consciously add the feeling of heat on your skin, the sound that flames make as they consume their fuel, and even the smell of burning (optional, since smell seems to be so closely associated with air in the first place). This can 1) move you into states of consciousness that are markedly different from your "normal" state, 2) increase the depth and purity of your concentration, and 3) further occupy the conscious mind, thus stilling internal dialogue and allowing greater play of intuitive (unconscious) functions. What you have here is a form of hypnotic transformation and altered consciousness with ability for manifestation. Pure and simple.
I also just gave you an example of the four elements. Air, fire, water and earth. Used to anchor energy as does the four corners. Now suppose you used this type of "linguistics" to adapt the reader into a hypnotic state for what ever state you might deem is necessary to sway the direction of thought. for example the programming on the television, or news articles. Does this seem far fetched? About as far fetched as the binary frequency that can alter mental states.
Now to further the hypnotic states you add the blue lotus and you have a totally usable subject to utilize this power of manifested energy.
Thelemic Wicca is a tradition that recognizes the contributions of Aleister Crowley’s brand of ceremonial magic, and emphasizes the discovery and development of each person's true will. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Love is the law, love under will. This is the code of Thelemic Wicca.
Similarly, the phrase "you create your own reality", so often mindlessly mouthed by many who insulate themselves in New Age superficiality, essentially promotes the idea that there is no objective reality, making us responsible not only for the choices we make but what befalls us as well. This philosophy places an unhealthy level of guilt upon the individual by enforcing upon them a demand for control over any situations where they logically may have none.
There are certain people who have the ability to communicate with intensity that most can only aspire to. Aleister Crowley was definitely one of these people, an acknowledged master of "language" and, if evidence serves us, able to create profound experiences merely by his presence. We may also speculate that some measure of this talent, was responsible for his great feats of self-transformation. Of course, Crowley was not the only one who has had this kind of ability. George Gurdjieff (for instance) claimed to be a potent hypnotist, who could affect changes without the knowledge of his students. We can ascribe this power of subtle communication, if we wish, to many religious and political leaders throughout history. But do we understand how it works? And, beyond that, is it useful to us in our True Will?
A new understanding of hypnosis began in the mid twentieth century with the work of psychotherapist Dr. Milton Erickson. He was a keen observer, and was able to map out in his mind, any number of parallel avenues of communication that ranged from the most obvious verbal forms, to a whole range of things that are often lumped together in the category of "body language." Erickson was able, to monitor a patient's breathing and heart rate, strictly from external cues (what he could see with his eyes ), while listening and communicating in the course of his work. He soon discovered that this ability was incredibly useful in understanding and creating dramatic and lasting change in his clients.
Practitioners of magic identify experiences with specific words, symbols and smells. Everything in ritual chosen for its purity and ability to "anchor". For example the used of a "magical" robe, which is worn only for ritual purposes, becomes so associated with that work the the very act of putting it on may produce an exalted state of mind. Crowley relates that he was so "anchored" to his asana position that, years after he ceased to practice regularly, merely assuming the position would produce a state of profound relaxation.
It's important to understand that anchoring the energy of specific "words", or 'concepts" will trigger the senses. for example, visual, auditory, kinesthetic (feeling), and olfactory/gustatory (smell/taste). The first three are most often in use, smell and taste (which are closely linked) only come into play in specific situations. So ask yourself, "What do I like the best about the place where I live?" What is your first response? Was it the way the place looked? The quietness or something that you might hear? Or perhaps the feeling of comfort that you get being there? Another example, your concentration on the elemental quality of fire is restricted to just seeing the color red sweep through, you can consciously add the feeling of heat on your skin, the sound that flames make as they consume their fuel, and even the smell of burning (optional, since smell seems to be so closely associated with air in the first place). This can 1) move you into states of consciousness that are markedly different from your "normal" state, 2) increase the depth and purity of your concentration, and 3) further occupy the conscious mind, thus stilling internal dialogue and allowing greater play of intuitive (unconscious) functions. What you have here is a form of hypnotic transformation and altered consciousness with ability for manifestation. Pure and simple.
I also just gave you an example of the four elements. Air, fire, water and earth. Used to anchor energy as does the four corners. Now suppose you used this type of "linguistics" to adapt the reader into a hypnotic state for what ever state you might deem is necessary to sway the direction of thought. for example the programming on the television, or news articles. Does this seem far fetched? About as far fetched as the binary frequency that can alter mental states.
Now to further the hypnotic states you add the blue lotus and you have a totally usable subject to utilize this power of manifested energy.
Beren- Posts : 547
Join date : 2010-09-07
Location : Belgrade, Serbia
I am going to give you an insight from Bible today.
Despite being written in archaic language of the time,it bear the clear message of a man and his choices.Choices of truth (God) or self lie(false premises).
Read carefully. I will accentuate the obvious things. Rest is I hope very clearly presented. Who can`t understand ,I will gladly explain.
And reason why I write about this side of Egypt is that Brook portrayed Egypt in this thread from one angle. And what a good work Brook!
I am just adding more to this whole equation.
And also people ,I am bringing you a simple truth written in Bible. You know that we talked many times over this; truth has been hijacked from Bible by many religions. That`s why people won`t trust Bible at all. Still even with this Bible that we currently have ,there is a load of great info in it.
And we should be thankful to God for he saved that for us despite all odds through history. WHo knows how many good men and women lost their lives to save this texts that later were placed in the collection of writing s named the Bible.
Let us cast away our prejudices about the book, let us look in it from the right angle, God angle .Let us leave taught doctrines of men who claimed that they had they sole knowledge from Bible when in fact they were half frauds and open liars all in their gain,save rare the honest ones .
Now this is a text from the Book of Isaiah, a God`s prophet from almost 2500 years ago or so.
It`s about Egypt and Israel`s desire to abandon God and turn to Egypt from where they were liberated in the past.
Portrait us as spiritual Israel-the chosen children of God (we were actually always that)...
Isaiah 30
Judah Should Trust the Lord, Not Egypt
1The Lord declares,
“How horrible it will be for those rebellious children.
They carry out plans, but not mine.
They make alliances against my will.
They pile sin on top of sin.
2They go to Egypt without asking me.
They look for shelter under Pharaoh’s protection
and look for refuge in Egypt’s shadow.
3But Pharaoh’s protection will be their shame,
and the refuge in Egypt’s shadow will be their disgrace.
4Although Pharaoh’s officials are in Zoan
and his messengers have reached Hanes,
5the people of Judah will be put to shame
because that nation can’t help them.
That nation can’t give aid or help to them.
It can only offer shame and disgrace.”
6This is the divine revelation about the animals in the Negev.
“My people travel through lands
where they experience distress and hardship.
Lions and lionesses live there.
Vipers and poisonous snakes live there.
They carry their riches on the backs of young donkeys
and their treasures on the humps of camels
to a nation that can’t help them.
7Egypt’s help is completely useless.
That is why I call it, ‘Rahab[a] who sits still.’
8Now, write this on a tablet for them, and inscribe it in a book
so that it will be there in the future as a permanent witness.
9These people are rebellious and deceitful children,
children who refuse to listen to the Lord’s teachings.
10They say to the seers, ‘Don’t see the future.’
They say to those who have visions,
‘Don’t have visions that tell us what is right.
Tell us what we want to hear. See illusions.
11Get out of our way! Stop blocking our path!
Get the Holy One of Israel out of our sight.’ ”
12This is what the Holy One of Israel says:
[b]You have rejected this warning,
trusted oppression and deceit,
and leaned on them.
13That is why your sin will be
like a high wall with a bulging crack, ready to fall.
All of a sudden it will fall.
14It will break like pottery.
It will be smashed, and nothing will be left of it.
No piece will be big enough to carry live coals from a fireplace
or to dip water from a reservoir.
15This is what the Almighty Lord, the Holy One of Israel, says:
You can be saved by returning to me.
You can have rest.
You can be strong by being quiet and by trusting me.
But you don’t want that.
16You’ve said, “No, we’ll flee on horses.”
So you flee.
You’ve added, “We’ll ride on fast horses.”
So those who chase you will also be fast.
17One thousand people will flee when one person threatens them,
and you will flee when five threaten you.
Then you will be left alone
like a flagpole on top of a mountain,
like a signpost on a hill.
18The Lord is waiting to be kind to you.
He rises to have compassion on you.
The Lord is a God of justice.
Blessed are all those who wait for him.
The Lord Will Heal His People’s Wounds
19You will live in Zion, in Jerusalem. You won’t cry anymore. The Lord will certainly have pity on you when you cry for help. As soon as he hears you, he will answer you. 20The Lord may give you troubles and hardships. But your teacher will no longer be hidden from you. You will see your teacher with your own eyes. 21You will hear a voice behind you saying, “This is the way. Follow it, whether it turns to the right or to the left.” 22Then you will dishonor your silver-plated idols and your gold-covered statues. You will throw them away like clothing ruined by stains. You will say to them, “Get out!”
23The Lord will give you rain for the seed that you plant in the ground, and the food that the ground provides will be rich and nourishing. When that day comes, your cattle will graze in large pastures. 24The oxen and the donkeys which work the soil will eat a mixture of food that has been winnowed[c] with forks and shovels. 25There will be brooks and streams on every lofty mountain and every high hill. When the day of the great slaughter comes, towers will fall. 26Then the light of the moon will be like the light of the sun. The light of the sun will be seven times as strong, like the light of seven days. When that day comes, the Lord will bandage his people’s injuries and heal the wounds he inflicted.
27The name of the Lord is going to come from far away.
His anger is burning.
His burden is heavy.
His lips are filled with fury.
His tongue is like a devouring flame.
28His breath is like an overflowing stream.
It rises neck high,
sifting the nations with a sieve of destruction,
placing a bit in the mouths of the people
to lead them astray.
29You will sing a song
like the song you sing on a festival night.
Your hearts will be happy like someone going out with a flute
on the way to the Lord’s mountain, to the rock of Israel.
30The Lord will make his majestic voice heard.
He will come down with all his might,
with furious anger,
with fire storms, windstorms, rainstorms, and hailstones.
31At the sound of the Lord, the people of Assyria will be shattered.
He will strike them with his rod.
32To the sound of tambourines and lyres, the Lord will pound on them.
He will fight them in battle, swinging his fists.
33Topheth was prepared long ago.
It was made ready for the king.
It was made deep and wide and piled high with plenty of burning logs.
The Lord’s breath will be like a flood of burning sulfur,
setting it on fire.
Footnotes:
Isaiah 30:7 Rahab is the name of a demonic creature who opposes God.
( demonic creature who opposes God- Phtah,Thoth,anyone...)
Isaiah 30:10 A seer is a prophet.
Isaiah 30:24 Winnowing is the process of separating husks from grain.
Despite being written in archaic language of the time,it bear the clear message of a man and his choices.Choices of truth (God) or self lie(false premises).
Read carefully. I will accentuate the obvious things. Rest is I hope very clearly presented. Who can`t understand ,I will gladly explain.
And reason why I write about this side of Egypt is that Brook portrayed Egypt in this thread from one angle. And what a good work Brook!
I am just adding more to this whole equation.
And also people ,I am bringing you a simple truth written in Bible. You know that we talked many times over this; truth has been hijacked from Bible by many religions. That`s why people won`t trust Bible at all. Still even with this Bible that we currently have ,there is a load of great info in it.
And we should be thankful to God for he saved that for us despite all odds through history. WHo knows how many good men and women lost their lives to save this texts that later were placed in the collection of writing s named the Bible.
Let us cast away our prejudices about the book, let us look in it from the right angle, God angle .Let us leave taught doctrines of men who claimed that they had they sole knowledge from Bible when in fact they were half frauds and open liars all in their gain,save rare the honest ones .
Now this is a text from the Book of Isaiah, a God`s prophet from almost 2500 years ago or so.
It`s about Egypt and Israel`s desire to abandon God and turn to Egypt from where they were liberated in the past.
Portrait us as spiritual Israel-the chosen children of God (we were actually always that)...
Isaiah 30
Judah Should Trust the Lord, Not Egypt
1The Lord declares,
“How horrible it will be for those rebellious children.
They carry out plans, but not mine.
They make alliances against my will.
They pile sin on top of sin.
2They go to Egypt without asking me.
They look for shelter under Pharaoh’s protection
and look for refuge in Egypt’s shadow.
3But Pharaoh’s protection will be their shame,
and the refuge in Egypt’s shadow will be their disgrace.
4Although Pharaoh’s officials are in Zoan
and his messengers have reached Hanes,
5the people of Judah will be put to shame
because that nation can’t help them.
That nation can’t give aid or help to them.
It can only offer shame and disgrace.”
6This is the divine revelation about the animals in the Negev.
“My people travel through lands
where they experience distress and hardship.
Lions and lionesses live there.
Vipers and poisonous snakes live there.
They carry their riches on the backs of young donkeys
and their treasures on the humps of camels
to a nation that can’t help them.
7Egypt’s help is completely useless.
That is why I call it, ‘Rahab[a] who sits still.’
8Now, write this on a tablet for them, and inscribe it in a book
so that it will be there in the future as a permanent witness.
9These people are rebellious and deceitful children,
children who refuse to listen to the Lord’s teachings.
10They say to the seers, ‘Don’t see the future.’
They say to those who have visions,
‘Don’t have visions that tell us what is right.
Tell us what we want to hear. See illusions.
11Get out of our way! Stop blocking our path!
Get the Holy One of Israel out of our sight.’ ”
12This is what the Holy One of Israel says:
[b]You have rejected this warning,
trusted oppression and deceit,
and leaned on them.
13That is why your sin will be
like a high wall with a bulging crack, ready to fall.
All of a sudden it will fall.
14It will break like pottery.
It will be smashed, and nothing will be left of it.
No piece will be big enough to carry live coals from a fireplace
or to dip water from a reservoir.
15This is what the Almighty Lord, the Holy One of Israel, says:
You can be saved by returning to me.
You can have rest.
You can be strong by being quiet and by trusting me.
But you don’t want that.
16You’ve said, “No, we’ll flee on horses.”
So you flee.
You’ve added, “We’ll ride on fast horses.”
So those who chase you will also be fast.
17One thousand people will flee when one person threatens them,
and you will flee when five threaten you.
Then you will be left alone
like a flagpole on top of a mountain,
like a signpost on a hill.
18The Lord is waiting to be kind to you.
He rises to have compassion on you.
The Lord is a God of justice.
Blessed are all those who wait for him.
The Lord Will Heal His People’s Wounds
19You will live in Zion, in Jerusalem. You won’t cry anymore. The Lord will certainly have pity on you when you cry for help. As soon as he hears you, he will answer you. 20The Lord may give you troubles and hardships. But your teacher will no longer be hidden from you. You will see your teacher with your own eyes. 21You will hear a voice behind you saying, “This is the way. Follow it, whether it turns to the right or to the left.” 22Then you will dishonor your silver-plated idols and your gold-covered statues. You will throw them away like clothing ruined by stains. You will say to them, “Get out!”
23The Lord will give you rain for the seed that you plant in the ground, and the food that the ground provides will be rich and nourishing. When that day comes, your cattle will graze in large pastures. 24The oxen and the donkeys which work the soil will eat a mixture of food that has been winnowed[c] with forks and shovels. 25There will be brooks and streams on every lofty mountain and every high hill. When the day of the great slaughter comes, towers will fall. 26Then the light of the moon will be like the light of the sun. The light of the sun will be seven times as strong, like the light of seven days. When that day comes, the Lord will bandage his people’s injuries and heal the wounds he inflicted.
27The name of the Lord is going to come from far away.
His anger is burning.
His burden is heavy.
His lips are filled with fury.
His tongue is like a devouring flame.
28His breath is like an overflowing stream.
It rises neck high,
sifting the nations with a sieve of destruction,
placing a bit in the mouths of the people
to lead them astray.
29You will sing a song
like the song you sing on a festival night.
Your hearts will be happy like someone going out with a flute
on the way to the Lord’s mountain, to the rock of Israel.
30The Lord will make his majestic voice heard.
He will come down with all his might,
with furious anger,
with fire storms, windstorms, rainstorms, and hailstones.
31At the sound of the Lord, the people of Assyria will be shattered.
He will strike them with his rod.
32To the sound of tambourines and lyres, the Lord will pound on them.
He will fight them in battle, swinging his fists.
33Topheth was prepared long ago.
It was made ready for the king.
It was made deep and wide and piled high with plenty of burning logs.
The Lord’s breath will be like a flood of burning sulfur,
setting it on fire.
Footnotes:
Isaiah 30:7 Rahab is the name of a demonic creature who opposes God.
( demonic creature who opposes God- Phtah,Thoth,anyone...)
Isaiah 30:10 A seer is a prophet.
Isaiah 30:24 Winnowing is the process of separating husks from grain.
Beren- Posts : 547
Join date : 2010-09-07
Location : Belgrade, Serbia
It is clear from above that Israel (we present -all God`s children) consciously chose to be retrograded by going to Egypt and asking help from demonic spirits masked in Egyptian gods such as Ptah,Thoth,Ra...
Now Living God-Creator is calling them back with describing where their choices will lead them but they are stubborn and refuse Creator`s help.
But still God is describing some future events and final result of rebellion against him- a devastation. Devastation caused by rebels(all whom rebelled) . God is coming back to bring balance and bring back the life in order since of disbalance caused by the rebel children.
Now the ones who brought disbalance are crying FOUL!!! But Creator can`t be mocked. What you sow -that you will reap.
Now can you fathom all new age religions and all that is against God?
Can you now?
Do you not recognize the subtle voice of rebels faced with their reaping (deeply disliking it)?
They seem outraged at God for this law of cause and effect. They want to play but if they hurt or mistreat others they do not want to be responsible.
And that`s a no no in Creator`s eyes. Otherwise how one soul can evolve ?
Sadly we saw how a lot of souls DEvolved. And they want us down their path too.
That`s why we have to say for us-NO. We chose Love. You chose fear -now deal with it. You can always choose Love back instead of fear but here`s the catch...YOU have to do that! None else but you.
Be blessed everybody!
In the name of I AM.
Now Living God-Creator is calling them back with describing where their choices will lead them but they are stubborn and refuse Creator`s help.
But still God is describing some future events and final result of rebellion against him- a devastation. Devastation caused by rebels(all whom rebelled) . God is coming back to bring balance and bring back the life in order since of disbalance caused by the rebel children.
Now the ones who brought disbalance are crying FOUL!!! But Creator can`t be mocked. What you sow -that you will reap.
Now can you fathom all new age religions and all that is against God?
Can you now?
Do you not recognize the subtle voice of rebels faced with their reaping (deeply disliking it)?
They seem outraged at God for this law of cause and effect. They want to play but if they hurt or mistreat others they do not want to be responsible.
And that`s a no no in Creator`s eyes. Otherwise how one soul can evolve ?
Sadly we saw how a lot of souls DEvolved. And they want us down their path too.
That`s why we have to say for us-NO. We chose Love. You chose fear -now deal with it. You can always choose Love back instead of fear but here`s the catch...YOU have to do that! None else but you.
Be blessed everybody!
In the name of I AM.
mountainman- Posts : 24
Join date : 2010-06-02
An absolutely wonderful post Beren,
Even though most will find the terminology of the bible difficult to understand., written allegorically, their hearts and souls, if they 'listen' will understand.
For anyone that has read the likes of Albert Pike, Alice Bailey and others and also researched the origins of the ' Knights Templars' via the 'Assassins' secret society then they will come to an understanding of the freemasons and all the secret societies that have played on man's greed for 'earthly' power. They are all of the one core root. People that have sold their souls for temporal power.., which is illusionary. They are unashamedly followers of lucifer, and that is Ok., except they lead astray the innocent., full of deception and rely on deceit instead of truth. But soul maturity will always win over this deception. It's just a matter of soul maturity. Over lifetimes the soul will learn given the chance. Unfortunately, the luciferian brethren indoctrinate their offspring from birth through rituals and brain washing thus keeping it in the bloodline which know no different. They treat others that are pure of heart as goy or cattle to be used for their selfish purpose without a second thought of the spiritual consequences.
Part of the 'great work' of lucifers delusional 'godhood' is to usurp our true Father. That will not happen., but in the meantime mankind suffers, or rather, his soul suffers until the realisation he has been duped by a false god!
In my humble opinion, most of the forums and the people that post on them think they are awake., and they are to a certain extent. But most are distracted by the 'Illuminati', the new world order, gurus, freemasons, economic mayhem, secret societies, aliens, etc., etc.
Most of this is done by "whistle-blowers" that plant mis/disinformation or gurus that promise a better way of life if you follow their path. The reality is., it is reallly a spiritual war that is going on between the forces of good and evil. That is God and lucifer. A battle for souls., whereas lucifer will try to keep us here in a lower density by fear and temporal inducements, God, has shown the way to higher realms through the teachings of Jesus., through love not fear, eternal not temporal. Through the choice and blessing of freewill.
Pike. Blavatsky, Bailey and many more before and since them.., have worked and built upon for many decades plans to eradicate the true meaning of the bible and it's teachings. Subverting not only the bible, but establishing a ' catholic church' set up by a pagan worshipping roman emperor for political purposes in the 4th century. Other 'faiths' set up for much the same reason.
It is well documented and freely admitted, especially in Pikes book, 'Morals and Dogma', that these people worship lucifer as their god. Alice Bailey stated that a new age would be established in the decades to come. That really took of in the sixties with the 'hippies' and 'freelove' reaffirming Aleister Crowleys doctrine of " Do what thou Wilt".
If we take into account the workings of Tavistock House, set up as a social engineering project by the luciferians., to the discerning mind it is not too difficult to see how this 'New Age ' that Bailey forecasted came about.
When they have control of the 'educational,' political and religious establishments through secret societies, top businesses, the media etc., and playing on the natural rebelliousness of youth towards established institutions., it is a simple matter of changing society for those with evil motives.
Once the human mindset is thrown into confusion, then it's time to introduce 'new' concepts of spirituality.
This latest assault on the human mind (and soul) this past few years consist of new age gurus, channellers etc,. and of late the history of so-called 'ancient Egypt' in regards to Osirus, Isis, Horus and all the rest of the alternate gods or whatever you want to call them.
We as a race of humans are under an assault to take us from our true nature., that we are eternal spirits, not gods, granted by the Grace of the one true Supreme God and to take away the teachings of His son our Lord Jesus to further the claim of lucifer as our master and proclaim himself as equal, if not better than our true Father, Whom loves us unconditionally.
Those that are ready to 'hear' will understand that to RETURN to the kingdom., it must be done with FREEWILL. That freewill was given as a blessing by our beautiful Lord God, and which never will be retracted., therefore leaving it up to us to decide for ourselves what we think we 'want', then returning of our own volition.
lucifer perverts that with enticements of temporary power through hedonism, lust for power, secret societies, satanic rituals, and other so-called humanly pleasures.., all conditional.
Instilling the belief humanity will overcome God by his intellect, thus becoming gods within their own 'right '(for the 'elite'only).
FREELY giving our hearts and souls to Him, after learning the lesson of the foolishness that we could surpass the beauty and joy that only He can give unconditionally, the true joy of unconditional love, that is freedom., nothing comes close to it. It brings an end to fear to be supplanted with love for all and appreciation for everything.
Those with eyes and ears will see through the foolishness of lucifer's agenda to keep us trapped in his false'kingdom' born of the abuse of 'freewill'.
Such is the love of our wonderful all loving God, the SUPREME CREATOR, that He will not interfere.., once a blessing is given, it stands for eternity. That includes freewill!
Man seems to have lost sight of that, and the reason for giving freewill. But when his 'eyes' and 'heart' re-awaken., he will realise the true meaning of free unconditional love.
The selfishness and suffering will not end for us, no matter what our status in this life, nor any life, until we FREELY and unconditionally give ourselves back to the One that truly loves us. That is true mutual trust and unconditional love which brings true freedom.
Nothing else matters!
Just my thoughts and you are welcome to disagree!
Blessings to all.
Tom.
Even though most will find the terminology of the bible difficult to understand., written allegorically, their hearts and souls, if they 'listen' will understand.
For anyone that has read the likes of Albert Pike, Alice Bailey and others and also researched the origins of the ' Knights Templars' via the 'Assassins' secret society then they will come to an understanding of the freemasons and all the secret societies that have played on man's greed for 'earthly' power. They are all of the one core root. People that have sold their souls for temporal power.., which is illusionary. They are unashamedly followers of lucifer, and that is Ok., except they lead astray the innocent., full of deception and rely on deceit instead of truth. But soul maturity will always win over this deception. It's just a matter of soul maturity. Over lifetimes the soul will learn given the chance. Unfortunately, the luciferian brethren indoctrinate their offspring from birth through rituals and brain washing thus keeping it in the bloodline which know no different. They treat others that are pure of heart as goy or cattle to be used for their selfish purpose without a second thought of the spiritual consequences.
Part of the 'great work' of lucifers delusional 'godhood' is to usurp our true Father. That will not happen., but in the meantime mankind suffers, or rather, his soul suffers until the realisation he has been duped by a false god!
In my humble opinion, most of the forums and the people that post on them think they are awake., and they are to a certain extent. But most are distracted by the 'Illuminati', the new world order, gurus, freemasons, economic mayhem, secret societies, aliens, etc., etc.
Most of this is done by "whistle-blowers" that plant mis/disinformation or gurus that promise a better way of life if you follow their path. The reality is., it is reallly a spiritual war that is going on between the forces of good and evil. That is God and lucifer. A battle for souls., whereas lucifer will try to keep us here in a lower density by fear and temporal inducements, God, has shown the way to higher realms through the teachings of Jesus., through love not fear, eternal not temporal. Through the choice and blessing of freewill.
Pike. Blavatsky, Bailey and many more before and since them.., have worked and built upon for many decades plans to eradicate the true meaning of the bible and it's teachings. Subverting not only the bible, but establishing a ' catholic church' set up by a pagan worshipping roman emperor for political purposes in the 4th century. Other 'faiths' set up for much the same reason.
It is well documented and freely admitted, especially in Pikes book, 'Morals and Dogma', that these people worship lucifer as their god. Alice Bailey stated that a new age would be established in the decades to come. That really took of in the sixties with the 'hippies' and 'freelove' reaffirming Aleister Crowleys doctrine of " Do what thou Wilt".
If we take into account the workings of Tavistock House, set up as a social engineering project by the luciferians., to the discerning mind it is not too difficult to see how this 'New Age ' that Bailey forecasted came about.
When they have control of the 'educational,' political and religious establishments through secret societies, top businesses, the media etc., and playing on the natural rebelliousness of youth towards established institutions., it is a simple matter of changing society for those with evil motives.
Once the human mindset is thrown into confusion, then it's time to introduce 'new' concepts of spirituality.
This latest assault on the human mind (and soul) this past few years consist of new age gurus, channellers etc,. and of late the history of so-called 'ancient Egypt' in regards to Osirus, Isis, Horus and all the rest of the alternate gods or whatever you want to call them.
We as a race of humans are under an assault to take us from our true nature., that we are eternal spirits, not gods, granted by the Grace of the one true Supreme God and to take away the teachings of His son our Lord Jesus to further the claim of lucifer as our master and proclaim himself as equal, if not better than our true Father, Whom loves us unconditionally.
Those that are ready to 'hear' will understand that to RETURN to the kingdom., it must be done with FREEWILL. That freewill was given as a blessing by our beautiful Lord God, and which never will be retracted., therefore leaving it up to us to decide for ourselves what we think we 'want', then returning of our own volition.
lucifer perverts that with enticements of temporary power through hedonism, lust for power, secret societies, satanic rituals, and other so-called humanly pleasures.., all conditional.
Instilling the belief humanity will overcome God by his intellect, thus becoming gods within their own 'right '(for the 'elite'only).
FREELY giving our hearts and souls to Him, after learning the lesson of the foolishness that we could surpass the beauty and joy that only He can give unconditionally, the true joy of unconditional love, that is freedom., nothing comes close to it. It brings an end to fear to be supplanted with love for all and appreciation for everything.
Those with eyes and ears will see through the foolishness of lucifer's agenda to keep us trapped in his false'kingdom' born of the abuse of 'freewill'.
Such is the love of our wonderful all loving God, the SUPREME CREATOR, that He will not interfere.., once a blessing is given, it stands for eternity. That includes freewill!
Man seems to have lost sight of that, and the reason for giving freewill. But when his 'eyes' and 'heart' re-awaken., he will realise the true meaning of free unconditional love.
The selfishness and suffering will not end for us, no matter what our status in this life, nor any life, until we FREELY and unconditionally give ourselves back to the One that truly loves us. That is true mutual trust and unconditional love which brings true freedom.
Nothing else matters!
Just my thoughts and you are welcome to disagree!
Blessings to all.
Tom.
Micjer- Posts : 1684
Join date : 2010-04-29
Location : Canada
Hi Tom. Wonderful to hear from you.
I agree with your post. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I agree with your post. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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burgundia- Posts : 5520
Join date : 2010-04-09
Location : Poland
I do not know why but i have a problem with calling any entity or God - Lord. It sounds to me very subservient. Plus, Lord is masculine and I doubt that the Creator is male or female. I also have a feeling that Jesus wouldn't like to be called "Lord".
orthodoxymoron- Posts : 13648
Join date : 2010-09-28
Location : The Matrix
burgundia wrote:I do not know why but i have a problem with calling any entity or God - Lord. It sounds to me very subservient. Plus, Lord is masculine and I doubt that the Creator is male or female. I also have a feeling that Jesus wouldn't like to be called "Lord".
I completely agree, burgundia.
orthodoxymoron- Posts : 13648
Join date : 2010-09-28
Location : The Matrix
Carol wrote:Although I did post this elsewhere I think it really goes here as I had this intuitional flash and this is what makes the most sense to me based on what I do know about ET and our planet.
As I mentioned earlier, the NWO has stepped up its agenda. I'm convinced that many politicians have been eliminated and replaced with clones. What better way to insure they get through their nefarious NWO global agendas. Of course I do have a wild imagination... based on reality. And my reality is a bit broader based then the average citizen.
I know for a fact, based on first hand reports from someone I personally have met and spent time with, that the ET clones had wiped out the original underground and undersea ET bases in Italy of their creators and taken over various corporations. If one wants to delve deeper into how this particular group of ETs (clones) are taking over the planet... just start with reading Mass Contacts by Stefano Breccia http://shop.1asecure.com/prod.cfm?ProdID=370402&StID=5503 He actually brought along the voice recordings of one of the clones. No one would be able to recognize the difference except that perhaps they don't have a soul. Those with "second" sight would know. And there are those with "second" sight are also being hunted down by the shadow government as well so they tend to hide out and stay very low key.
The original ETs were very positive, however, their clones turned on them and are without compassion... the clones are much more technologically oriented. Then we have the reptilian agenda that have been here a bit longer then the clones and of course, add to the mix the Greys. The reality is that the war we are really battling is who gets to control our planets resources, including humankind. So the question which begs to be answered is this, "Who really is controlling all of these political agendas?" And I do see the battle lines being drawn - and I do pity politicians as they will be the first targeted by the common man once they realize the truth and look at voting records along with personal bank accounts. A yacht on the high seas or a bunker underground will end up being the only safe places left for the these types once the populace revolts. Meanwhile, I take comfort in the reality that there are more of us then them and we still have a slim chance to play this game out to the advantage of the planet and her children in the short time remaining because humankind is ready for its DNA upgrade.
This sounds like Humans creating Cylons in 'Battlestar Galactica'. Did ancient Humans create all manner of hybrids - including the Dracs, Greys, and Annunaki - with forbidden technology (possibly obtained from Regressive Interdimensional Reptilians?). Did they obtain and/or invent computers, nukes, antigravity-spacecraft etc. Did they enslave the hybrids, and demand worship? Did the hybrids rebel - and confiscate most of the forbidden technology? Did the hybrids steal 'Fire from the Gods'? Are the 'aliens' really rebel hybrids - who we created? Does the 'Original Sin' involve all of the above? Have the renegade hybrids been raising hell with us for thousands of years? Are they presently considering exterminating us? If we somehow eliminated or removed the renegade hybrids - would all of the fancy technology be in the best of hands - or the worst of hands? Do we need the hybrids to reign us in? Should my fantasy of a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System include hybrids? If most of my questions are answered affirmatively - how should this mess properly be resolved? If reincarnation is a reality - I am very afraid regarding what I might have done, or who I might have been, historically.
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Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
Thank you Tom For that most insightful post.
Not much I can disagree with in it. Maybe a few small points. But for the greater part of the message I agree emphatically. I would absolutely agree with the latest mindset on ancient Egypt. Mostly because it is the root of much of the pain and suffering you see out there today. If you were to actually follow the "historic' part of it, you would not believe what a trap it really is. Devised to suck you into it's evil blissful insights of the words of Thoth. An evil bidder and leader of the biggest lies told. From the beginning to the most present "new age" concepts that are reeling the minds of those that get tagged by it. From his teachings and words came most of the perverted religions of the world. And many can now see that. But to simply blame Lucifer, would let these bastards off the hook. Nope, they do not deserve to be let off so easily.
These guys were around long before Lucifer came on the scene. Lucifer only took the ball of evil and ran with it upon his arrival. They set the stage for him, and this Rockey Horror Show proceeded full fledged.
Much of the writings on these forums are in regard to ET disclosure, while the other half is about human rights stolen by a powerful elite. Call them what ever is deemed necessary. Illuminati is only one faction of a "group" that wants to control the little guy. Keep them down. Keep them in the dark, especially to who they really are. Because when they realize their true potential they will not be able to control any longer. And that day is upon us. For the God I'm aware of is fed up, and gave a deadline to to set things right. As it has not been honored by the 'group", the PTB, and the alien factions that want to dominate this planet, thing are not going to go too well for them. It was written. But in the "teachings" is a trap. Not the "words" mind you...but the "teachings'. Armageddon is upon us. Or so it would seem. But for who is the frightful and most telling part going to be? It's in the words. And quite frankly I'm ready! Bring it on. Get these locusts off this planet and out of our hair. Enough is enough!
Now these Alien "serpents", were invited to the party long before Lucifer even thought about taking an interest in this planet. And they took over with great technology that is evident. They erased all evidence of a time before their arrival to ensure their rightful place within our history. It's a sham, and a lie. It does not matter at this point if you wish to blame Lucifer for the "serpent" beings. He would most likely be more than happy to take the wrap. But what does matter is that this technology that has effected our very DNA, and the frequency of the planet is about to go down. Now call it whatever you like. Again, it does not matter at this point what you would term it, or who you would blame for the deeds.
What is important is to realize that it's about time we actually have a chance to see our real potential. What we are truly all about. That divine spark that resides in all of us. To awaken to that will be heaven on earth. Make no mistake of that. And it is our divine Creator that will bring that to us. Jesus, one of the greatest prophets, tried to tell us who we truly are. We just did not believe. We did not carry that faith in ourselves or our creator. And rightly so! We had this compression and frequency preventing us from truly seeing who we are. "forgive them for they know not what they do....". Walk on water? We can walk on water? How were we supposed to do that? The answer was clear. We can do greater things? Imagine the possibilities! Imagine KNOWING who you truly are! By going inside and getting the answers that are within. They are there! I have said this for the last year till I'm blue in the face.
So ODM asks, How should this mess properly be resolved? I'll tell you it is not in our hands to question this. The stage is set, and we are the players. It is not a show. It is life giving birth to a new beginning. Maybe the better thing to ask is "How should we proceed?"......And I'll tell you that Jesus told us all the answers. Barring what the "religions" have told you.....His greatest sayings were, and I will ware it out again. "He who would know everything, but fails to know himself misses the knowledge of everything ". Along with simply having "faith" in our Creator!
I will proceed with this thread on my journey of awakening, as it is all about waking up and knowing what you are here for at this present time. But if I can tell anybody one thing for certain....for Gods sake....lose the fear, and strengthen your foundation with faith in the Lord Above!
PS: Fine post Beren!
Not much I can disagree with in it. Maybe a few small points. But for the greater part of the message I agree emphatically. I would absolutely agree with the latest mindset on ancient Egypt. Mostly because it is the root of much of the pain and suffering you see out there today. If you were to actually follow the "historic' part of it, you would not believe what a trap it really is. Devised to suck you into it's evil blissful insights of the words of Thoth. An evil bidder and leader of the biggest lies told. From the beginning to the most present "new age" concepts that are reeling the minds of those that get tagged by it. From his teachings and words came most of the perverted religions of the world. And many can now see that. But to simply blame Lucifer, would let these bastards off the hook. Nope, they do not deserve to be let off so easily.
These guys were around long before Lucifer came on the scene. Lucifer only took the ball of evil and ran with it upon his arrival. They set the stage for him, and this Rockey Horror Show proceeded full fledged.
Much of the writings on these forums are in regard to ET disclosure, while the other half is about human rights stolen by a powerful elite. Call them what ever is deemed necessary. Illuminati is only one faction of a "group" that wants to control the little guy. Keep them down. Keep them in the dark, especially to who they really are. Because when they realize their true potential they will not be able to control any longer. And that day is upon us. For the God I'm aware of is fed up, and gave a deadline to to set things right. As it has not been honored by the 'group", the PTB, and the alien factions that want to dominate this planet, thing are not going to go too well for them. It was written. But in the "teachings" is a trap. Not the "words" mind you...but the "teachings'. Armageddon is upon us. Or so it would seem. But for who is the frightful and most telling part going to be? It's in the words. And quite frankly I'm ready! Bring it on. Get these locusts off this planet and out of our hair. Enough is enough!
Now these Alien "serpents", were invited to the party long before Lucifer even thought about taking an interest in this planet. And they took over with great technology that is evident. They erased all evidence of a time before their arrival to ensure their rightful place within our history. It's a sham, and a lie. It does not matter at this point if you wish to blame Lucifer for the "serpent" beings. He would most likely be more than happy to take the wrap. But what does matter is that this technology that has effected our very DNA, and the frequency of the planet is about to go down. Now call it whatever you like. Again, it does not matter at this point what you would term it, or who you would blame for the deeds.
What is important is to realize that it's about time we actually have a chance to see our real potential. What we are truly all about. That divine spark that resides in all of us. To awaken to that will be heaven on earth. Make no mistake of that. And it is our divine Creator that will bring that to us. Jesus, one of the greatest prophets, tried to tell us who we truly are. We just did not believe. We did not carry that faith in ourselves or our creator. And rightly so! We had this compression and frequency preventing us from truly seeing who we are. "forgive them for they know not what they do....". Walk on water? We can walk on water? How were we supposed to do that? The answer was clear. We can do greater things? Imagine the possibilities! Imagine KNOWING who you truly are! By going inside and getting the answers that are within. They are there! I have said this for the last year till I'm blue in the face.
So ODM asks, How should this mess properly be resolved? I'll tell you it is not in our hands to question this. The stage is set, and we are the players. It is not a show. It is life giving birth to a new beginning. Maybe the better thing to ask is "How should we proceed?"......And I'll tell you that Jesus told us all the answers. Barring what the "religions" have told you.....His greatest sayings were, and I will ware it out again. "He who would know everything, but fails to know himself misses the knowledge of everything ". Along with simply having "faith" in our Creator!
I will proceed with this thread on my journey of awakening, as it is all about waking up and knowing what you are here for at this present time. But if I can tell anybody one thing for certain....for Gods sake....lose the fear, and strengthen your foundation with faith in the Lord Above!
PS: Fine post Beren!
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
Now later today I will proceed with some of the ritual magic that they used ...and show you exactly where they are based in the order of their so called "coven". As it's about time to show exactly what they call forth....I will start by giving you a view of some of the "tools" used today to proceed with rituals they have no idea what they are 'calling forth".....Is it necessary to bring this to light? Maybe those that follow Thoth and the "gang" of serpent headed tools should be exposed for exactly what they are.
Currently being used in rituals today by those that have no idea what they bring forth.......The "underworld"
is labeled correctly. The place where the great Pharaohs decided was ideal for residence
after the incarnation here.
And the road map.....The book of the Dead
Currently being used in rituals today by those that have no idea what they bring forth.......The "underworld"
is labeled correctly. The place where the great Pharaohs decided was ideal for residence
after the incarnation here.
And the road map.....The book of the Dead
orthodoxymoron- Posts : 13648
Join date : 2010-09-28
Location : The Matrix
Brook wrote:Thank you Tom For that most insightful post.
Not much I can disagree with in it. Maybe a few small points. But for the greater part of the message I agree emphatically. I would absolutely agree with the latest mindset on ancient Egypt. Mostly because it is the root of much of the pain and suffering you see out there today. If you were to actually follow the "historic' part of it, you would not believe what a trap it really is. Devised to suck you into it's evil blissful insights of the words of Thoth. An evil bidder and leader of the biggest lies told. From the beginning to the most present "new age" concepts that are reeling the minds of those that get tagged by it. From his teachings and words came most of the perverted religions of the world. And many can now see that. But to simply blame Lucifer, would let these bastards off the hook. Nope, they do not deserve to be let off so easily.
These guys were around long before Lucifer came on the scene. Lucifer only took the ball of evil and ran with it upon his arrival. They set the stage for him, and this Rockey Horror Show proceeded full fledged.
Much of the writings on these forums are in regard to ET disclosure, while the other half is about human rights stolen by a powerful elite. Call them what ever is deemed necessary. Illuminati is only one faction of a "group" that wants to control the little guy. Keep them down. Keep them in the dark, especially to who they really are. Because when they realize their true potential they will not be able to control any longer. And that day is upon us. For the God I'm aware of is fed up, and gave a deadline to to set things right. As it has not been honored by the 'group", the PTB, and the alien factions that want to dominate this planet, thing are not going to go too well for them. It was written. But in the "teachings" is a trap. Not the "words" mind you...but the "teachings'. Armageddon is upon us. Or so it would seem. But for who is the frightful and most telling part going to be? It's in the words. And quite frankly I'm ready! Bring it on. Get these locusts off this planet and out of our hair. Enough is enough!
Now these Alien "serpents", were invited to the party long before Lucifer even thought about taking an interest in this planet. And they took over with great technology that is evident. They erased all evidence of a time before their arrival to ensure their rightful place within our history. It's a sham, and a lie. It does not matter at this point if you wish to blame Lucifer for the "serpent" beings. He would most likely be more than happy to take the wrap. But what does matter is that this technology that has effected our very DNA, and the frequency of the planet is about to go down. Now call it whatever you like. Again, it does not matter at this point what you would term it, or who you would blame for the deeds.
What is important is to realize that it's about time we actually have a chance to see our real potential. What we are truly all about. That divine spark that resides in all of us. To awaken to that will be heaven on earth. Make no mistake of that. And it is our divine Creator that will bring that to us. Jesus, one of the greatest prophets, tried to tell us who we truly are. We just did not believe. We did not carry that faith in ourselves or our creator. And rightly so! We had this compression and frequency preventing us from truly seeing who we are. "forgive them for they know not what they do....". Walk on water? We can walk on water? How were we supposed to do that? The answer was clear. We can do greater things? Imagine the possibilities! Imagine KNOWING who you truly are! By going inside and getting the answers that are within. They are there! I have said this for the last year till I'm blue in the face.
So ODM asks, How should this mess properly be resolved? I'll tell you it is not in our hands to question this. The stage is set, and we are the players. It is not a show. It is life giving birth to a new beginning. Maybe the better thing to ask is "How should we proceed?"......And I'll tell you that Jesus told us all the answers. Barring what the "religions" have told you.....His greatest sayings were, and I will ware it out again. "He who would know everything, but fails to know himself misses the knowledge of everything ". Along with simply having "faith" in our Creator!
I will proceed with this thread on my journey of awakening, as it is all about waking up and knowing what you are here for at this present time. But if I can tell anybody one thing for certain....for Gods sake....lose the fear, and strengthen your foundation with faith in the Lord Above!
PS: Fine post Beren!
I'm not in a very trusting mood these days. Whose hands is this important matter residing in? The same hands who have been handling things for thousands of years? I will continue to attempt to think for myself - and second-guess everyone and everything connected with the destiny of humanity. I will continue to be fearful as I survey the wreckage of the past few thousand years - and the current insanity. All has not been well - and all is not well - and I want to know exactly why. I also wish to be absolutely certain that I am placing my faith in the right 'Lord'. Read 'The Gods of Eden' by William Bramley for a genuinely eye-opening experience. What would the Indian monkey-god 'Hanuman' say? http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Delhi/Congressman_Bhama_says_Hanuman_helped_Obama/articleshow/3678612.cms
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Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
orthodoxymoron wrote:Brook wrote:Thank you Tom For that most insightful post.
Not much I can disagree with in it. Maybe a few small points. But for the greater part of the message I agree emphatically. I would absolutely agree with the latest mindset on ancient Egypt. Mostly because it is the root of much of the pain and suffering you see out there today. If you were to actually follow the "historic' part of it, you would not believe what a trap it really is. Devised to suck you into it's evil blissful insights of the words of Thoth. An evil bidder and leader of the biggest lies told. From the beginning to the most present "new age" concepts that are reeling the minds of those that get tagged by it. From his teachings and words came most of the perverted religions of the world. And many can now see that. But to simply blame Lucifer, would let these bastards off the hook. Nope, they do not deserve to be let off so easily.
These guys were around long before Lucifer came on the scene. Lucifer only took the ball of evil and ran with it upon his arrival. They set the stage for him, and this Rockey Horror Show proceeded full fledged.
Much of the writings on these forums are in regard to ET disclosure, while the other half is about human rights stolen by a powerful elite. Call them what ever is deemed necessary. Illuminati is only one faction of a "group" that wants to control the little guy. Keep them down. Keep them in the dark, especially to who they really are. Because when they realize their true potential they will not be able to control any longer. And that day is upon us. For the God I'm aware of is fed up, and gave a deadline to to set things right. As it has not been honored by the 'group", the PTB, and the alien factions that want to dominate this planet, thing are not going to go too well for them. It was written. But in the "teachings" is a trap. Not the "words" mind you...but the "teachings'. Armageddon is upon us. Or so it would seem. But for who is the frightful and most telling part going to be? It's in the words. And quite frankly I'm ready! Bring it on. Get these locusts off this planet and out of our hair. Enough is enough!
Now these Alien "serpents", were invited to the party long before Lucifer even thought about taking an interest in this planet. And they took over with great technology that is evident. They erased all evidence of a time before their arrival to ensure their rightful place within our history. It's a sham, and a lie. It does not matter at this point if you wish to blame Lucifer for the "serpent" beings. He would most likely be more than happy to take the wrap. But what does matter is that this technology that has effected our very DNA, and the frequency of the planet is about to go down. Now call it whatever you like. Again, it does not matter at this point what you would term it, or who you would blame for the deeds.
What is important is to realize that it's about time we actually have a chance to see our real potential. What we are truly all about. That divine spark that resides in all of us. To awaken to that will be heaven on earth. Make no mistake of that. And it is our divine Creator that will bring that to us. Jesus, one of the greatest prophets, tried to tell us who we truly are. We just did not believe. We did not carry that faith in ourselves or our creator. And rightly so! We had this compression and frequency preventing us from truly seeing who we are. "forgive them for they know not what they do....". Walk on water? We can walk on water? How were we supposed to do that? The answer was clear. We can do greater things? Imagine the possibilities! Imagine KNOWING who you truly are! By going inside and getting the answers that are within. They are there! I have said this for the last year till I'm blue in the face.
So ODM asks, How should this mess properly be resolved? I'll tell you it is not in our hands to question this. The stage is set, and we are the players. It is not a show. It is life giving birth to a new beginning. Maybe the better thing to ask is "How should we proceed?"......And I'll tell you that Jesus told us all the answers. Barring what the "religions" have told you.....His greatest sayings were, and I will ware it out again. "He who would know everything, but fails to know himself misses the knowledge of everything ". Along with simply having "faith" in our Creator!
I will proceed with this thread on my journey of awakening, as it is all about waking up and knowing what you are here for at this present time. But if I can tell anybody one thing for certain....for Gods sake....lose the fear, and strengthen your foundation with faith in the Lord Above!
PS: Fine post Beren!
I'm not in a very trusting mood these days. Whose hands is this important matter residing in? The same hands who have been handling things for thousands of years? I will continue to attempt to think for myself - and second-guess everyone and everything connected with the destiny of humanity. I will continue to be fearful as I survey the wreckage of the past few thousand years - and the current insanity. All has not been well - and all is not well - and I want to know exactly why. I also wish to be absolutely certain that I am placing my faith in the right 'Lord'. Read 'The God's of Eden' by William Bramley for a genuinely eye-opening experience.
Well ODM, It still makes no difference who's hands it resides in at this point. What matters most are the choices you make. So to question this is extremely important.
While I will also add, time is only relevant. What seems like thousands of years in this 3D perspective is only in the blink of any eye. But make no mistake in that long time line perspective there has been plenty of chaos to deal with, I'll go along with that. It would surly give one cause to question who is in charge, and who to trust. But never forget, that your freewill gives you the right to question and make whatever choices you choose. Choose wisely my friend
lindabaker- Posts : 1385
Join date : 2010-04-15
Location : straight ahead
Brook, speaking of Thoth...I have met him eye to eye and it wasn't pretty. I was invited by a dear and very intelligent friend to attend a "sound healing" workshop in the ATL. Okay, I'm game, as most of these people are talented musicians, and quite dear, right? Anyway, the lady who was giving the teaching said that sometimes she channels Mary and Michael, and others, and she doesn't know WHO will come in. I'm sitting there looking around, thinking, okayyy this is not what I signed up for. So, she starts to sing, and then Thoth announced that he was there. And there I was, sitting in the front row. Well, a staredown ensued between us. I recognized a very old spirit once the singer lady's spirit was, what, cast aside? I don't know. To be brief, I was not afraid at any time, it was too sudden. I felt I was being read, through and through. I do remember that I sensed that I was being studied, and my spiritual protection, my shield, was my "teflon." His attention moved elsewhere in the room. As soon as it was not a noticeable act, I fled to my car. I didn't even say goodbye to my friend. I have never before seen such strong energy out of anybody, ever. No more sound healing ceremonies for me, nooo.
lindabaker- Posts : 1385
Join date : 2010-04-15
Location : straight ahead
Brook, thanks for the info on the monkeys. Now I know why I dislike them intensely. And don't get me started on the flying monkeys in the old Wizard of Oz movie. I think that's where my baseline fears started, hee hee. Hated those things! Why do they show that to young children, geez. Sometimes children have more "sense" and sensibilities than adults. Having said that, I let my daughter watch Jurrasic Park which was a big mistake as well. All of these animals represent our deepest darkest fears and remembrances of distant past cultures and times. Talk about triggers...let's talk about crocodiles next. I had a chance to go to Egypt a long time ago, no cost, and I turned it down. The whole vibe is so not right for me, and I'm figuring it out, thanks to you.