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    Post  Carol on Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:10 pm

    I tend to look at the NASA photos first and make decisions about Nibiru based on emphirical science (physical evidence) before making decisions involved with any channeling. Having done a lot of channeling in my 20s and 30s I learned that the data gathered was sometimes false, so gave it up due to the reality that sources of info when channeling can involved trickster entities. So how would one know if it really was the planet answering back or an imposter (for example ego)? Honestly, self-deception is a key element to take into considertion here. What I have learned to say, more often then not... is that I just don't know until it happens.

    And just to be out in the open here, I can enter into an altered state of consciousness at will and channel, which I do - do when sensing into short term future events. Long term future events are so way out there with all of the external varible factors unfolding it's pretty much a waste of energy and effort for me to even look.

    I also mean no disrespect to my friends who channel and get data that is helpful to them or others. I just prefer putting my energy into lending a helping hand on a "different" type of practical level to those in need. All matter is consciousness just vibrating at different frequencies. Learning how to tune into the different frequencies is an art that several on this forum have mastered. I did learn how to do this in the 70s and have since moved onto other areas of interest.


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    Post  ClearWater on Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:38 pm

    Thank you Brook, for the wonderful thread! Excellent information you've shared with us.
    I was just pondering the discussion on first hand experience/knowledge. I decided I was going to chime in.
    I opened the thread...only to see that Carol has just essentially expressed my perspective.

    First hand does not equal accurate/trustworthy. A clear heart is necessary to determine this.
    A clear heart can easily determine whether information is accurate and trustworthy regardless of whether that information is obtained first hand, second hand, or four hundred and twenty-third hand. But, I am not suggesting that anyone should be dependent upon others to gather information for them.

    To me, it is simple...
    With a clear heart, truth can be detected regardless of where that truth comes from.
    Without a clear heart, truth cannot be detected regardless of how it is obtained.

    The heart is like a mirror. If it is clean, it will accurately reflect anything put before it. If it is blurry, it will distort anything put in front of it...for better or worse.
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    Post  Lionhawk on Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:50 pm

    My apologies for not being responsive to the "what if" posting I had made. There has been a lot of things to consider since that posting or more to the point, the session I had.

    I asked if I should reveal this information. I was told "BY ALL MEANS." But I was also shown 3 stages to present it. If it was well received, then I was to proceed to stage two. And if that was well received, then on to stage three. Well, the responses received about summed up where it went from there. This morning after several days of contemplation concerning this, I have decided to give a better picture of that session but first I would like to point out a couple of basic things that should be considered before one takes on what I experienced.

    I had a session with SOL. Brook was also a witness to this session. For that matter she was upset for not recording it. Instead of using my own philosophy to define what I have been preaching to the choir, I will use what Sol had said concerning it. He stated that there needed to be a cooperation with Earth and the True Earthlings in order to phase out the Planet. Now what did he mean by True Earthlings? He wasn't talking about everyone on the Planet. Just because someone is here doesn't make them true now does it? What he was referring to were the Earthlings that are truly connected to the Planet. He didn't speak in racial tones either. Such as favoring the Native Americans or being prejudicial to many lower frequency beings hiding here whether alien or otherwise. The key word here is CONNECTED.

    Now if you look at the numbers in terms of who are connected, the number is very low indeed. Granted there are those who are trying to connect, those that choose not to connect, those that don't have a clue, and so on. Some choose to ask all the questions and entertain probable solutions but will be spinning their wheels because they deny themselves the inner work that needs to be done to achieve that connection. Without this connection, the power you wield will not manifest the results you desire. I didn't make this up. It is simple stuff that gets ignored, overlooked, or treated with an arrogant response.

    The comets that Sol mentioned, were not from some debris field in space. These comets are already being sent by this faction. The thinking behind sending those comets is to change the codes in the Sun body. Their thinking is if they destroy the Sun, everything in the system will die. So let me get to the meat and potatoes here concerning this faction. Why would they be doing this? Sol showed me that this faction came from the opposite side of our Galaxy. Because of the galactic wave that is going through our galaxy, this faction decided not to get upgraded. They wanted to keep what they had built up. They are a highly technological race that is more mechanical in nature with a hive mind. If you combine the Replicators of SG-1 and the Borg from the Star Trek series, you will start to see what they are about. They left our Galaxy and went to the Andromeda Galaxy just to hold up for awhile as it were. Now why are they coming here? Sol said, they know what is about to happen in this Universe and they know the trigger point of that is here in this Solar system. They have determined that if they take me out, that the new birthing of our Universe will be avoided and that they will be able to maintain their status quo.

    Another thing is that they are behind in terms of location but will be approaching here before that 2012 date. Sol was not worried about this. He said they will be dealt with in such a way that they won't know what hit them. I would also like to point out that Sol is not here to fry any Planet in our system. He has been taking these comets and transmuting the energy into CMEs. Another side note is that he showed me the size of this faction. All I can say is the numbers are staggering. It is also the very reason why the Draconians will leave. They don't have the numbers or the resources to put up a fight with this faction. It is also another reason why the Annunaki are coming here to retrieve what they consider is theirs. They will do the retrieval under guidance and then leave before this faction shows up. The name of this faction is unknown at this time because I didn't ask the question. My bad there. I was in awe as to what I was seeing.

    Another thing I would like to share is that when I visited Sol, it was unlike anything I had ever experienced before when it comes to contact. With Sol, his consciousness surrounded me. When I first got there, I was perceived as a threat. Only because I was an unknown. I was met by 3 flame beings who escorted me from a coronal hole to a sunspot. I was on the surface is the best I can explain it. Sol also said that these flame beings were also his daughters. And when I finally got to where I was escorted to, he said it was about time I got there in a joyful tone.

    Was this information channeled? It was not. It was a conversation with Sol. If one leaves their body and goes to the location to have that conversation, is that the same thing as channeling? I'll just leave that question to the "know it alls" to answer. And if you think I came here to just write a bunch of crap just to draw attention, I suggest you think about that in your mind. We all know it takes an effort to write a post and I have better things to do than to just deceive anyone. It takes energy to do this type of work and my intentions have always been sincere. If you think otherwise, then it is on you. You can psychoanalyze all you want and label all of archetypes, aspects, etc. and include further separation of a soul by stating something of the higher self of that soul. It's your paint brush and your perception. One size shoe doesn't fit all. Case and point as to why I harp about second hand information vs.first hand. If you ever experienced being blown apart by a nuclear explosion in one of your past lives, it might make you see it all from a different view point. That view point is a place of knowing and not remembering because your soul body was ripped to shreds, leaving you emotionally missing pieces of you. Let's just say for conversation that I was exempt from the shoe size everyone likes to wear or the one that "some know it all people" think you should be wearing, based on their own filtering mechanisms. When are we going to agree everyone is unique? I will leave it at that.

    So take this information as second hand. Because it is. But you can also do the do and get connected and seek validation if you so choose. Personally I have nothing to prove to anyone here. I am only sharing. My first hand vs the second hand was a lesson learned from the Angelic realm. If you have a problem with that, then may I suggest you go to them and learn that lesson for yourself. It would appear that many didn't receive such a lesson just by what responses I have seen. Let me be clear when I say, if you are not connected, you will not be going anywhere with the Planet. You'll end up as a second hand statistic. I am only pointing that out because people still persist in the thinking that the answers are out there in the second hand world. Where that world is never in the now moment for one. It is always in the past somewhere in time. First hand is always in the now for the individual. PROVE THAT WRONG WILL YA!

    I'm not playing the BULLY here. You do what you will and it all comes down to free agency. Whether you exercise it or not. And if you think you are all that with all the second hand information under your belt, when it comes to test time you will be weighed and measured by your own heart. Your foundation will be handed right back to you. You choose whether you want it rock solid or like what Instigator said, Paper Mache'. All I have ever done is to encourage folks to do the work within. Get it in the first hand. Because in the end it is that first hand experience that you will take with you no matter where you go, even after you die. If you consider that egotistical, then I'm not in the right place. That being said, I have said enough. I only wanted to share what I discovered since the question was raised why are these ships around the Sun in the first place? I took that question seriously and decided to inquire about it. Yet at the same time, why did I get that AV1 not worthy feeling after several responses were posted? It's not worth answering. The reaction of this thread coming to a complete stop was the real answer. On that note, you decide or don't decide by whatever means suites you.

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    Post  Carol on Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:00 pm

    Thank you Lionhawk. I sense total truth is what you shared and appreciate your taking the time to post your experience.


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    Post  burgundia on Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:16 pm

    Draconians and Annunaki are scared of that faction...in what sense is that faction a threat to them? What about the earth people? The new faction is coming to destroy the sun..where are they now? How far from the sun? if they are not based in the solar system (or are they?) how are the coming changes going to be a threat to their civilization? Are the Draconians and Annunaki afraid of the changes too?
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    Post  ClearWater on Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:48 pm

    Thank you for sharing this information Lionhawk. Everything you say makes perfect sense.
    The question I have (and I am asking this question of myself, but if anyone feels they have an answer then feel free to share it...) If we have nothing to worry about...this incoming faction will be dealt with...all the currently residing 'baddies' will go away... Then why put any effort/time/energy towards finding out what is going on with them from this point forward? Isn't that energy better spent in developing a 'connection' and in helping other people learn to 'connect', since that is what is important right now? Doesn't even 'the truth' become a distraction and a detriment when one continually searches for it? At what point do we set aside knowledge (which is always of the past, as you say) and put all our energies towards 'being' (which is always of the present moment)? Isn't NOW the time?
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    Post  Lionhawk on Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:33 pm

    The question that was posed was what are these ships doing around our Sun? Also, who are they? All the information that I have presented came from asking those questions. I wasn't expecting anything else when this session went down. It just led from one thing to another. Instigator and I spent several hours that night to digest what came from that session and what we concluded was it all fit. We tried various angles to try and debunk it. At the same time using our gifts and talents to scan the data.

    It is also not to assume that because the Dracs and Repts are leaving, we are not out of harm's way. That action if they go through with it, will only open a door for others to try and take their place. Again, if you didn't catch it all as I wrote it down, the Dracs or Reptilians would not necessarily be fearful of this other faction. It's just they don't have the numbers or resources to take this other faction on.

    In my mind, this is all about awareness. Awareness of what is going on, on your turf. If you are connected to the Planet, then you also know you are connected to this Solar system. Everyone speaks of DNA but don't bother repairing it. It is repairable. What the Reps did to create an open circuit between the strands is repairable. And you don't need any fancy equipment to do the repairs. It only takes a couple of minutes to do it. Once you do, a whole set of chakras will open up to you. Those chakras connect you to the Universe. More importantly, this Solar system and beyond.

    I have pretty much laid it out there as to what the score is from what I was informed of and one must figure out for themselves what they should do. I am no longer here to wake up anyone, save the world mumbo jumbo, in a 3D mode. I am passed peak with all that. But the connection is what is key and it only takes an hour or less to do it. You don't need anything special in the way of books, tapes, cds, or any other horizontal media. All you need is a willing sincere heart. The rest I leave to you. Of course now is the time!

    Also mind you I only shared a small piece as to what is out there. I don't have all the answers. I just take it day by day. I try to make the best of it and that is all I can do. Hope that answered everyone's questions and hopefully no one takes offense as to not acknowledging everyone who has posted or commented. Just know that the ones that did have been on my mind ever since I posted the original posting on this subject. And if anyone thinks this is not related to this thread, think again, because the ships you are looking at around the Sun, were also involved back in the days of Egypt back to Atlantis.

    Again, Happy Holidays

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    Post  burgundia on Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:49 pm

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    Post  ClearWater on Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:21 pm

    I certainly wasn't questioning why you undertook this particular session. I understand the reason for it, and appreciate the sharing of it very much. Thank you for the honest, direct response.
    Once again, everything you say makes perfect sense.
    Lionhawk wrote:I have pretty much laid it out there as to what the score is from what I was informed of and one must figure out for themselves what they should do. I am no longer here to wake up anyone, save the world mumbo jumbo, in a 3D mode. I am passed peak with all that. But the connection is what is key and it only takes an hour or less to do it. You don't need anything special in the way of books, tapes, cds, or any other horizontal media. All you need is a willing sincere heart. The rest I leave to you. Of course now is the time!
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    Post  Brook on Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:23 pm

    the question is, are they coming or going..............

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    Post  Micjer on Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:28 pm


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    I was just about to post link. lol
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    Post  Micjer on Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:34 pm

    Brook wrote:the question is, are they coming or going..............


    That was today!!!

    Look at the time!

    December 09, 2010 | filmed in Saratoga County 11:11 AM 12/09/2010 UFO Armada of Light Ships
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    Post  lindabaker on Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:38 pm

    Micjer wrote:
    Brook wrote:the question is, are they coming or going..............


    That was today!!!

    Look at the time!

    December 09, 2010 | filmed in Saratoga County 11:11 AM 12/09/2010 UFO Armada of Light Ships

    Holy, Crap, Batman! Is that just mind blowing? It's too much to take in right now. Later. LB
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    Post  burgundia on Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:20 am

    These are birds...at a certain moment I saw their wings flapping....Canadian geese quite possible.
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    Post  Micjer on Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:21 am

    burgundia wrote:These are birds...at a certain moment I saw their wings flapping....Canadian geese quite possible.

    I thought about this possibility, because of the V formation. If they are birds I would say they are more likely seagulls.

    The odd thing is surely the camera lady should be able to distinguish between ufo's and birds! I mean when I look up and see something like this it is quite obvious. Once again wish I had seen it myself!

    I am curious what the black objects are that are seen moving about. Suspect
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    Post  Micjer on Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:52 am

    Thank you Brook for starting and contributing to this thread. There are many gems packed into this one area.

    @Lionhawk. Thanks for sharing your information. Sure it is second hand to us, but it was first hand to you, which is the most important. We are all like family here, and if my child or wife were to tell me of their obe, I would believe them also.
    Your experience is nothing like channelling at all. Channelling is allowing an entity to transmit messages through you. Where this info comes from is likely not from where it says it is. You on the other hand have gone there and know who you are getting the info from. You are not selling books or profiting from your experience. People that do immediately are red flagged in my opinion.


    @Beren. Thanks go to you also. It is very important to have the input from Jesus' perspective at this time also. Living in Love not fear is the key. The twisting of Jesus's messages into religious dogma is so frustrating.


    @To everyone else. Thanks for keeping this very important thread going. I look forward to more input!!!



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    Post  Guest on Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:33 am

    Carol wrote:I tend to look at the NASA photos first and make decisions about Nibiru based on emphirical science (physical evidence) before making decisions involved with any channeling. Having done a lot of channeling in my 20s and 30s I learned that the data gathered was sometimes false, so gave it up due to the reality that sources of info when channeling can involved trickster entities. So how would one know if it really was the planet answering back or an imposter (for example ego)? Honestly, self-deception is a key element to take into considertion here. What I have learned to say, more often then not... is that I just don't know until it happens.

    And just to be out in the open here, I can enter into an altered state of consciousness at will and channel, which I do - do when sensing into short term future events. Long term future events are so way out there with all of the external varible factors unfolding it's pretty much a waste of energy and effort for me to even look.

    I also mean no disrespect to my friends who channel and get data that is helpful to them or others. I just prefer putting my energy into lending a helping hand on a "different" type of practical level to those in need. All matter is consciousness just vibrating at different frequencies. Learning how to tune into the different frequencies is an art that several on this forum have mastered. I did learn how to do this in the 70s and have since moved onto other areas of interest.

    I don't do channeling Carol, never have done. I direct cognite with creation, that is the planet, plants, crystals. They are consciousness too

    I don't believe a thing of what NASA says to be honest, is all a pack of lies

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    Post  Carol on Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:19 am

    Well it's nice to see the whole channeling issue cleared up. Direct experience works best for most.

    To totally discount scientific fact is a bit out there A. I had a personal friend who was at the Vatican Observatory in Arizona share with me he actually say Nibiru and this was at least 4 or 5 years ago before any of the NASA photos were released. And there are others whom I trust who have RVed it as well. Whether one chooses to accept Nibiru as a reality or not is a personal choice. Yet, from my perspective, when I see a storm approaching I take the appropriate action to prepare for it.


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    Post  Micjer on Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:21 am

    Since we have been discussing the sun and the ufo's around it, I have included this vid for discussion. What is going on??

    UFO Shoots Lazers Close To The Sun




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    Post  Carol on Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:32 am

    I've heard and read from several sources that they are protecting earth. That's why I've not been too concerned with the CMEs because of ETs presence and that none of the CMEs that would have been snaking out earth's direction in the past haven't hit earth and instead are diverted.

    They also protect us against astroids and comets (not all but some of the more dangerous objects).



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    Post  Micjer on Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:41 pm

    Brook wrote:
    It doesn't work that way ODM...,we are born to this planet...,our frequency is meshed if you will to her. We are created in these bodies to her. We are children of EARTH.

    The right question to ask is...where did our soul body come from?....that is the right question to ask...... Cool


    I know where my home planet is...but I'm here now. I'm from this earth, born of this earth. As such, this is where I anchor my energy.

    Thanks Brook


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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:41 pm

    What if the Asteroid Belt, the Kuiper Belt, and the Oort Cloud are mostly spaceships? What if most of the planets and moons in this solar system are spaceships (including Earth and its Moon)? I continue to lean toward the practice of multidisciplinary research, accompanied by classical sacred music, lots of exercise in nature, lots of rest and sleep, interaction with other researchers, and lots of independent thinking and speculation. I am wary of being-assisted far journeys - in whatever state or dimension. I really wish to convert the whole damn universe to the concept of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. I wish for it to be implemented here - but if there are really b@d@$$ beings (who scare the stuffings out of the Dracs) who are on their way to beat us into reverent submission - then we may need the assistance of other benevolent beings throughout the universe - to decisively deal with those who would do us harm. What if the Annunaki, the Greys, and the Dracs are Human/Reptile Hybrid Supersoldiers created by Lucifer in Underground Base Genetics Laboratories throughout the solar system? What if the really b@d@$$ incoming bunch originated in these same labs - and are travelling throughout the universe - engaging in heartless and cruel conquest? What if this solar system is a staging area for universal conquest - establishing a truly Universal Chruch Theocracy? I hope I didn't spoil anyone's day - but shouldn't we consider all of the possibilities? What would Lucifer say? I might not have to wait very long for an answer. Lucifer - can we cut the crap - and get to the point? I know I'm just a "commoner" - but I do have valid questions - which continue to go unanswered...
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    Post  Instigator on Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:38 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote:What if the Asteroid Belt, the Kuiper Belt, and the Oort Cloud are mostly spaceships? What if most of the planets and moons in this solar system are spaceships (including Earth and its Moon)? I continue to lean toward the practice of multidisciplinary research, accompanied by classical sacred music, lots of exercise in nature, lots of rest and sleep, interaction with other researchers, and lots of independent thinking and speculation. I am wary of being-assisted far journeys - in whatever state or dimension. I really wish to convert the whole damn universe to the concept of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. I wish for it to be implemented here - but if there are really b@d@$$ beings (who scare the stuffings out of the Dracs) who are on their way to beat us into reverent submission - then we may need the assistance of other benevolent beings throughout the universe - to decisively deal with those who would do us harm. What if the Annunaki, the Greys, and the Dracs are Human/Reptile Hybrid Supersoldiers created by Lucifer in Underground Base Genetics Laboratories throughout the solar system? What if the really b@d@$$ incoming bunch originated in these same labs - and are travelling throughout the universe - engaging in heartless and cruel conquest? What if this solar system is a staging area for universal conquest - establishing a truly Universal Chruch Theocracy? I hope I didn't spoil anyone's day - but shouldn't we consider all of the possibilities? What would Lucifer say? I might not have to wait very long for an answer. Lucifer - can we cut the crap - and get to the point? I know I'm just a "commoner" - but I do have valid questions - which continue to go unanswered...

    why do we continue to ask questions outside oneself, the only answers are contained with-in ...... connect and the answers will come, dont connect and continue seeking for gurus and 4th hand information. those who are unable to obtain 1st hand information need to get to work or the party will come and you wont be invited as you failed to reserve your seats.

    Namaste'
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    Post  Lionhawk on Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:33 pm

    ODM,

    Have you ever heard of the expression, "You need to get laid," ? Well with that same type of energy, "You need to get into a sweat lodge."

    I remember the conversation we had months ago and what was said still stands and you continue to validate that conversation.

    You are not finding your answers to your questions in the way you would like to have them laid in your lap. A lot of your questions are based in 3D and a lot of them are also based in 4D. Well if you never go into 4D, how do you expect to find 4D answers in 3D. Your constitution is basically based on conditional energies and since we are moving away from that into an unconditional place of knowing, your constitution will not be applicable. Maybe if you did this 100 years ago. I am sure others have attempted to answer your questions. I have seen this occur and yet you continue to ask them over and over again. Are you stuck? If you are, then find out what is making you stuck, so that you can "FREE YOUR MIND."

    There is no such thing as a stupid question except for the one that never gets asked. But you know what they say about insanity, and if you are asking the same questions over and over and not getting the answers you seek, that only means you need to figure a different way to get those answers. What is also beyond insane is when you do get the answers but refuse yourself the opportunity to really prove it out for yourself. When are you going to start trusting what you are made of? If you continue on this path, you will find yourself in a deep place of inner frustration with no questions answered. The only change I can see is just more questions. But still no answers. And then again that might be your only mission. To get folks to think out of the box asking the questions that they might entertain. Maybe a huge blessing in disguise.

    My only wish for you is your own happiness. If this is what makes you tick and that is your mission and your happy doing it, then so be it. But if not, then find whatever it is to FREE YOUR MIND!

    Please take this constructively. I have already answered your Lucifer question months ago. I think Mercuriel can also validate that for you. So if you can't accept that since it is second hand to you, then find out in the first hand. If you keep seeking outside yourself for the answers, expect to keep chasing those answers and entertaining us with your questions that you never get answers for.

    Personally I think you are a genius/madman in disguise.
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    Post  Instigator on Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:43 am

    time for a journey

    Namaste'




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