Yep I confess I'm a big milk drinker here too.............. Got Milk?
+29
Linda
Suriel
giovonni
Micjer
enemyofNWO
devakas
solent
mudra
Carol
Mercuriel
MargueriteBee
starninja
orthodoxymoron
malletzky
Vidya Moksha
Beren
Oliver
SiriArc
Jonah
Instigator
Zedd
Lionhawk
TRANCOSO
tacodog
CetaceousOne
burgundia
lindabaker
Anchor
Brook
33 posters
Egyptian folklore and The Red Pill - Part 1
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
Here is and interesting concept....and there is lots of this reported on the internet....how much of it is true? It is said the the Felines are genetic specialists or referred to as the "geneticists of the universe" .....hmmmmmm here is one version of the story, however there are many just like it...google for yourself, and see what you find in that respect.
Galactic History in a Nutshell
This is only according to my research.
This article is really the nutshell version, so it will be fast and furious. If there is something
you don’t have enough background on I urge you to do an Internet search
or email me with questions.
This universe has a 12 strand blueprint. This is the reason why most of the “ancients” used a number
system based on 12 (not 10 as we do now), why there are 12 primary
Stellar Races that inhabit this universe, 12 libraries linked to each
Stellar Race, and, most significantly, 12 strands in our DNA.
Star Systems and Stellar Races
Note:
Some Sub Stellar Sentient Races evolve from the genetic expansion of
the two Lineages or genetic strain of the Carian Family and Feline
Family and their descendants.
The 12 primary Stellar Races that inhabit this galaxy originate primarily in the following star systems:
Sirius A, B, C
Pleaides
Orion
Andromeda
Lyra
Arcturus
The 2 Stellar Races that seeded this universe are Feline and Carian. From the Feline evolved the Human and
from the Carian evolved the Reptilian. The remaining 8 subspecies
evolved from combinations of these races and consist of the following:
Artificial Intelligence (AI) or BIO Android Beings
Bi pedal Intelligent Cetacean
Crystalline (fractal)
Electrical
Elemental (plants, faeries, devas, elves, sylphs, leprechauns, etc.)
Insectilian Race
Liquidians or Shape-shifting Beings
Orb (etheric) or the Basic Life forms of Balls of Light
........Feline or LION Beings are CREATED By The CREATOR GOD (GREAT SPIRIT) as
an Emotional Being created in the Feminine Energy of GOD (GREAT SPIRIT)
The overall Feline temperament is warm, sanguine and intellectual.
As they mature they take on more of a somber, introspective and
gentle nature. The elders are revered for the wisdom, compassion and insight.
The
Felines are known for their medical expertise are and known Genetics
Engineer of Life. They are gregarious, big hearted or emotional
natured, adventurous spirit, loud, project well, and have good ambition
and drive. They are also impulsive and rash. If you have a Feline for
your guide, they most likely came to teach you to
speak up and/or keep patience. The Felines correspond to strand 1, Courage,
on the DNA Chart.
Interesting view....a perspective of the author. And there are many other views of this nature with different but similar perspectives about the Felines.
Just google for yourself......."Geneticists of the universe felines"...you'll see many with this concept in somewhat different perspectives..but the theme of genetics and Felines are of primary interest by these authors.
Galactic History in a Nutshell
This is only according to my research.
This article is really the nutshell version, so it will be fast and furious. If there is something
you don’t have enough background on I urge you to do an Internet search
or email me with questions.
This universe has a 12 strand blueprint. This is the reason why most of the “ancients” used a number
system based on 12 (not 10 as we do now), why there are 12 primary
Stellar Races that inhabit this universe, 12 libraries linked to each
Stellar Race, and, most significantly, 12 strands in our DNA.
Star Systems and Stellar Races
Note:
Some Sub Stellar Sentient Races evolve from the genetic expansion of
the two Lineages or genetic strain of the Carian Family and Feline
Family and their descendants.
The 12 primary Stellar Races that inhabit this galaxy originate primarily in the following star systems:
Sirius A, B, C
Pleaides
Orion
Andromeda
Lyra
Arcturus
The 2 Stellar Races that seeded this universe are Feline and Carian. From the Feline evolved the Human and
from the Carian evolved the Reptilian. The remaining 8 subspecies
evolved from combinations of these races and consist of the following:
Artificial Intelligence (AI) or BIO Android Beings
Bi pedal Intelligent Cetacean
Crystalline (fractal)
Electrical
Elemental (plants, faeries, devas, elves, sylphs, leprechauns, etc.)
Insectilian Race
Liquidians or Shape-shifting Beings
Orb (etheric) or the Basic Life forms of Balls of Light
........Feline or LION Beings are CREATED By The CREATOR GOD (GREAT SPIRIT) as
an Emotional Being created in the Feminine Energy of GOD (GREAT SPIRIT)
The overall Feline temperament is warm, sanguine and intellectual.
As they mature they take on more of a somber, introspective and
gentle nature. The elders are revered for the wisdom, compassion and insight.
The
Felines are known for their medical expertise are and known Genetics
Engineer of Life. They are gregarious, big hearted or emotional
natured, adventurous spirit, loud, project well, and have good ambition
and drive. They are also impulsive and rash. If you have a Feline for
your guide, they most likely came to teach you to
speak up and/or keep patience. The Felines correspond to strand 1, Courage,
on the DNA Chart.
Interesting view....a perspective of the author. And there are many other views of this nature with different but similar perspectives about the Felines.
Just google for yourself......."Geneticists of the universe felines"...you'll see many with this concept in somewhat different perspectives..but the theme of genetics and Felines are of primary interest by these authors.
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
Lets go back to Thoth for a moment......here you have this guy...likened to a "God" worshiped in all his glory.....spreading all of this "love and light" in the Emerald Tablets
Now ye assemble, my children,
waiting to hear the Secret of Secrets
which shall give ye power to unfold the God-man,
give ye the way to Eternal life.
Plainly shall I speak of the Unveiled Mysteries.
No dark sayings shall I give unto thee.
Open thine ears now, my children.
Hear and obey the words that I give.
First I shall speak of the fetters of darkness
which bind ye in chains to the sphere of the Earth.
Darkness and light are both of one nature,
different only in seeming,
for each arose from the source of all.
Darkness is disorder.
Light is Order.
Telling you Darkness is disorder..and Light is order and in the same set of texts...says this...
Remember and heed my words,
for surely will I return again
and require of thee that which ye guard.
Aye, even from beyond time and
from beyond death will I return,
rewarding or punishing
as ye have requited your truest.
If there is so much love of light and understanding of the Darkness and disorder......that seems like a very "conditional" way of getting the point across...he will "reward or punish"
waiting to hear the Secret of Secrets
which shall give ye power to unfold the God-man,
give ye the way to Eternal life.
Plainly shall I speak of the Unveiled Mysteries.
No dark sayings shall I give unto thee.
Open thine ears now, my children.
Hear and obey the words that I give.
First I shall speak of the fetters of darkness
which bind ye in chains to the sphere of the Earth.
Darkness and light are both of one nature,
different only in seeming,
for each arose from the source of all.
Darkness is disorder.
Light is Order.
Telling you Darkness is disorder..and Light is order and in the same set of texts...says this...
Remember and heed my words,
for surely will I return again
and require of thee that which ye guard.
Aye, even from beyond time and
from beyond death will I return,
rewarding or punishing
as ye have requited your truest.
If there is so much love of light and understanding of the Darkness and disorder......that seems like a very "conditional" way of getting the point across...he will "reward or punish"
Last edited by Brook on Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:49 pm; edited 3 times in total
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
Whoa....wait a minute......did I see somewhere that Kerry Cassidy was channeling Thoth?????????
That's a mind bender....and food for thought
That's a mind bender....and food for thought
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
Lionhawk wrote:I concur with Transoco! Awesome post! (He's an awesome poster too!)
I think the war you are referring to was called the Orion War. Lasted like 650,000 years which is insane. And the only reason why it ended wasn't because one side won over the other. It was because the Draconian faction had factions within it that decided to head to different options. Whether those options were peaceful or for a more personal grab for power. Those choices caused the Draconians to collapse from within their own ranks. Also in that process it caused some of them to go in hiding.
One thing is for sure, is that it always comes down to the Felines vs. Dragons. Look at the Planet today and look at the many statues abound. Many lions and dragons everywhere you look.
I can't say I am an authority on this Egyptian folk lore but you are slinging some dots on the bulls eye. The irony of it all is that they are scampering to cover all this up because people such as yourself are coming forth showing us all the lies that they made everyone swallow.
You can see similar patterns across the whole board as to the techniques used to manipulate the herd. Doesn't matter what frequency domain it came from as it is nothing more but a deceitful manipulation so they could implement their agendas.
Then when you add the facts as to them covering it all up and hiding anything pertinent to the real truth such as artifacts and websites, it makes you wonder what they are afraid of.
From my own being and what I know from within, some of these characters that have been praised to look like they were benevolent to all concerned were actually pieces of "_______". They don't deserve a title higher than that. You talk about some downright evil bastards here. They are not the lighted glorified beings that the media continues to push down your throats. Same thing with Ra. The original Ra was a good guy. Ptah, Thoth, and Osiris were anything but glorious. And Kerry is channeling Thoth. Did I see that somewhere? She isn't channeling the real one. The real one wouldn't allow that to occur for one. Because he has to much to hide. Even now! Osiris was a Joke for a King. He only made it to that position because he was part of that agenda. Damn sure wasn't because he was bright. He was like a retarded George Bush.
Well Brook, you are raising my blood pressure with your thread. Keep it up! I would write more but this editor has programming flaws and is being accessed somehow. Wrote something earlier and it just disappeared when I posted it. Call it my imagination.
Thanks Lionhawk for your input here.....and I'm drawn to your comment "One thing is for sure, is that it always comes down to the Felines vs.
Dragons. Look at the Planet today and look at the many statues abound.
Many lions and dragons everywhere you look. "
This does seem to be the way of it. there are symbols all over the world of fierce dragons and Lions as family crests, and royalty. Statues of great battles fought with the Lion either in defeat or victory.
Guarding the royalty
Dragons guarding a palace
in Battle
So in this Orion war the Draconian split into different factions?
Interesting information.....Thanks
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
Hybrid rulers......
Last edited by Brook on Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:59 pm; edited 2 times in total
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
Ritual sacrifice and ceremony
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
Inconsistent time lines seem to prevail in all of this lore and "History"
When exactly was Atlantis sunk?...when was it developed in the first place? When did Thoth and the Worship of Ra...the "Sun God" start?
If you examine time lines of Ancient Egypt and the development of the Nile...it would appear to be from around 5500 BC
Plato's "myth" of Atlantis, written around 370 BC states that the sinking was 10000 years previous. Wow...That means that this guy Thoth had quite a life span...how did he do that?
Oh yeah.....he was a "GOD"....
Now lets take a look at Greece for a moment.......There is so much connection of the Egyptian Gods and Greek Gods...it's overwhelming....
You have Thoth that was Hermes
Isis was worshiped big time there,
And then you have the original Rosetta Stone....Written in three languages......Egyptian Hyroglyphs, Egyptian demotic, and GREEK.
Here is something not many are aware of...did you know about the "DRACO LAW"???
Draco Law
The first written constitution of Athens. Written around 621 BC
Draco (pronounced /ˈdreɪkoʊ/; from Greek Δράκων, pronounced /ˈdra.kɔːn/) was the first legislator of ancient Athens, Greece, 7th century BC. He replaced the prevailing system of oral law and blood feud by a written code to be enforced only by a court. Because of its harshness, this code also gave rise to the term "draconian".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draco_%28lawgiver%29
The privileged eupatrid(aristocratic) few in Athens had been making all the decisions for long
enough. By 621 B.C. the rest of the people of Athens were no longer
willing to accept arbitrary, oral rules of the eupatrid thesmothetai
'those who lay down the law' and judges. Draco was appointed to write
down the laws. Athens may have been a late-comer to the written law
code since it may already have been done elsewhere in the Hellenic
world.
Problems Introduced by the Law Code of Draco
Whether or not it was intentional, when Draco codified the laws, it brought to public
attention Athens' outrageous and archaic penalties. Part of the excess
was Draco himself.The story goes that when asked about the
harshness of his punishments, Draco said the death penalty was
appropriate for stealing even so much as a cabbage. If there had been a worse penalty than death, Draco would gladly have applied it to greater crimes.As
a result of Draco's strict, unforgiving code, the adjective based on
the name Draco -- draconian -- refers to penalties considered
excessively severe.
"And Draco himself, they say, being asked
why he made death the penalty for most offenses, replied that in his
opinion the lesser ones deserved it, and for the greater ones no
heavier penalty could be found."
Also referred to as the Draconian Law
raditional Athenian law code allegedly introduced by Draco c. 621 bce.
Aristotle, the chief source for knowledge of Draco, claims that his
were the first written Athenian laws and that Draco established a constitution
enfranchising hoplites, the lower class soldiers. The Draconian laws
were most noteworthy for their harshness; they were said to be written
in blood, rather than ink. Death was prescribed for almost all criminal
offenses. Solon, who was the archon (magistrate) in 594 bce, later repealed Draco’s code and published new laws, retaining only Draco’s homicide statutes. Modern scholarship tends to be skeptical of the Draconian
... (100 of 132 words)
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/170684/Draconian-laws
http://www.publicbookshelf.com/public_html/The_Story_of_the_Greatest_Nations_and_the_Worlds_Famous_Events_Vol_1/whatisd_bei.html
What is the connection with Greece? And the inconsistent time lines?
When exactly was Atlantis sunk?...when was it developed in the first place? When did Thoth and the Worship of Ra...the "Sun God" start?
If you examine time lines of Ancient Egypt and the development of the Nile...it would appear to be from around 5500 BC
Plato's "myth" of Atlantis, written around 370 BC states that the sinking was 10000 years previous. Wow...That means that this guy Thoth had quite a life span...how did he do that?
Oh yeah.....he was a "GOD"....
Now lets take a look at Greece for a moment.......There is so much connection of the Egyptian Gods and Greek Gods...it's overwhelming....
You have Thoth that was Hermes
Isis was worshiped big time there,
And then you have the original Rosetta Stone....Written in three languages......Egyptian Hyroglyphs, Egyptian demotic, and GREEK.
Here is something not many are aware of...did you know about the "DRACO LAW"???
Draco Law
The first written constitution of Athens. Written around 621 BC
Draco (pronounced /ˈdreɪkoʊ/; from Greek Δράκων, pronounced /ˈdra.kɔːn/) was the first legislator of ancient Athens, Greece, 7th century BC. He replaced the prevailing system of oral law and blood feud by a written code to be enforced only by a court. Because of its harshness, this code also gave rise to the term "draconian".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draco_%28lawgiver%29
The privileged eupatrid(aristocratic) few in Athens had been making all the decisions for long
enough. By 621 B.C. the rest of the people of Athens were no longer
willing to accept arbitrary, oral rules of the eupatrid thesmothetai
'those who lay down the law' and judges. Draco was appointed to write
down the laws. Athens may have been a late-comer to the written law
code since it may already have been done elsewhere in the Hellenic
world.
Problems Introduced by the Law Code of Draco
Whether or not it was intentional, when Draco codified the laws, it brought to public
attention Athens' outrageous and archaic penalties. Part of the excess
was Draco himself.The story goes that when asked about the
harshness of his punishments, Draco said the death penalty was
appropriate for stealing even so much as a cabbage. If there had been a worse penalty than death, Draco would gladly have applied it to greater crimes.As
a result of Draco's strict, unforgiving code, the adjective based on
the name Draco -- draconian -- refers to penalties considered
excessively severe.
"And Draco himself, they say, being asked
why he made death the penalty for most offenses, replied that in his
opinion the lesser ones deserved it, and for the greater ones no
heavier penalty could be found."
Also referred to as the Draconian Law
raditional Athenian law code allegedly introduced by Draco c. 621 bce.
Aristotle, the chief source for knowledge of Draco, claims that his
were the first written Athenian laws and that Draco established a constitution
enfranchising hoplites, the lower class soldiers. The Draconian laws
were most noteworthy for their harshness; they were said to be written
in blood, rather than ink. Death was prescribed for almost all criminal
offenses. Solon, who was the archon (magistrate) in 594 bce, later repealed Draco’s code and published new laws, retaining only Draco’s homicide statutes. Modern scholarship tends to be skeptical of the Draconian
... (100 of 132 words)
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/170684/Draconian-laws
http://www.publicbookshelf.com/public_html/The_Story_of_the_Greatest_Nations_and_the_Worlds_Famous_Events_Vol_1/whatisd_bei.html
What is the connection with Greece? And the inconsistent time lines?
Last edited by Brook on Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:27 am; edited 2 times in total
Instigator- Posts : 228
Join date : 2010-08-27
Age : 55
Location : Melbourne Australia
Brook wrote:
so lets start off with one of the posts from that thread and look at Ptah....
Ptah
The origin of Ptah's name is unclear, though some believe it to mean 'opener' or 'sculptor'. As a god of craftsmen, the later is probably correct. He was a patron of the arts, protector of stone cutters, sculptors, blacksmiths, architects, boat builders, artists and craftsmen.
It was believed that Ptah created the heavens and the earth.
Ptah created the giant metal plate that was believed to be the floor of heaven and the roof of the sky, he also created the struts that upheld it. He created the universe by speaking words through his Tongue (linked to the god Thoth) and by thoughts coming from his Heart.
There came into being as the heart and there came into being as the tongue ...The mighty Great One is Ptah, who transmitted life to all gods, as well as to their kas... Thus it happened that the heart and tongue gained control over every other member of the body, by teaching that he, Ptah... is in every body and in every mouth of all gods, all men,and every thing that lives, by thinking and commanding everything that he wishes.
Thus the ka-spirits were made... by this speech... Thus were made all work and all crafts, the action of the arms, the movement of the legs, and the activity of every member, in conformance with this command which the heart thought, which came forth through the tongue, and which gives value to everything.
Ptah was a creator god, the third highest god in Egypt. He was the god presiding over the Second Egyptian month. From a local god of craftsmen to the deity who crafted the universe and the other deities, Ptah was only overshadowed by the sun god Ra, and the hidden god Amen. He fashioned the universe through words of power and by thought, as well as creating different parts by hand. He helped the dead on their travels through the afterlife, allowing them to transform into his divine figure, or by building the boats on which they could travel. He was the one who allowed the dead to be like the living after death
Sounds like a pretty powerful guy to me...in all of this legend and metaphor.
What did the Masons know? It is clearly worship of Ptah....but was he really such a good “God”? He is clearly worshiped in Egyptian folklore as a “God of Creation” ….stressing the word “creation”....what exactly did he create that should be worshiped in such “glory” for the Masons to revere? Then you clearly have a statue of Ptah with scales...
Namaste'
Hello there, My first post here, excellent thread got me out from the boom docks to present a possible theory to Ptah and Ptolemy.
Priesthood of Ptolemy may actually be the double cross symbol used throughout time( Chi Ro ) the X with a P through which could be the "Solomon's key".
Could the P be Ptah, as mentioned in your summation pasted as the creator god? Or perhaps the P formation mirrored in the stars indicate a likely origin next to constellation of Orian ?
This "secret" is most likely the one of the most important symbols that all secret society's are based on ..... Even the use to the Chi-Ro on roman head wear during the roman empire, and also the same symbol represented on coins during that era symbolized the worship and the importance of this "secret" knowledge.
This means virtually all secret society's are Ptah /Lucifer worship? , I am linking both as now I believe that they may be linked strongly in some way.
Chi Ro or double cross has been a sacred symbol for the Reptilian/Draconian empires, almost like a flag or badge in respect to their "god" or worship or a symbolic reference honouring the sacred P.
I find it interesting that the P in the double cross could represent Ptah , the self proclaimed creator of life here on earth as mentioned in the emeralds tablets.
The re-writers of history could actually have brainwashed their whole empire into this illusion that's the sad part of all this
One thing for sure, if this is correct these reptilian/draconians will be remembered through out the history of the universe as the dumbest species of all time, who not only mind control every world they come across but also the ultimate mind control and brainwashing of their own kind ....... Sounds like they could be a scared bunch of unimportant beings whom only roll in the entire universe is to control and manipulate an ignorant species into giving them their powers to give them some feeling of importance. The only sad part is that the ignorant species in this case is most of the incarnates on earth, surely this foul stench of Reptilian/Draconian coffee will be noticed by the masses sooner rather than later and humanity can finally reclaim their innate power instead of giving it to others or do we have to sacrifice mother earth for our own ignorance ? Time will tell but I firmly believe humans will compute the aroma in time to drive these unimportant manipulators back to space dust where they belong.
Top thread
Namaste
Lionhawk- Posts : 485
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 66
Location : Prime Creator's Garden
Piezoelectricity is the charge which accumulates in certain solid materials (notably crystals, certain ceramics, and biological matter such as bone, DNA and various proteins)[1] in response to applied mechanical strain. The word piezoelectricity means electricity resulting from pressure. It is derived from the Greek piezo or piezein (πιέζειν), which means to squeeze or press, and electric or electron (ήλεκτρον), which stands for amber – an ancient source of electric charge.[2] Piezoelectricity is the direct result of the piezoelectric effect.
The piezoelectric effect is understood as the linear electromechanical interaction between the mechanical and the electrical state in crystalline materials with no inversion symmetry.[3] The piezoelectric effect is a reversible process in that materials exhibiting the direct piezoelectric effect (the internal generation of electrical charge resulting from an applied mechanical force) also exhibit the reverse piezoelectric effect (the internal generation of a mechanical force resulting from an applied electrical field). For example, lead zirconate titanate crystals will generate measurable piezoelectricity when their static structure is deformed to about 0.1% of the original dimension. Conversely, lead zirconate titanate crystals will change about 0.1% of their static dimension when an external electric field is applied to the material.
Piezoelectricity is found in useful applications such as the production and detection of sound, generation of high voltages, electronic frequency generation, microbalances, and ultra fine focusing of optical assemblies. It is also the basis of a number of scientific instrumental techniques with atomic resolution, the scanning probe microscopies such as STM, AFM, MTA, SNOM, etc., and everyday uses such as acting as the ignition source for cigarette lighters and push-start propane barbecues.
The above quoted from Wikipedia.
As this thread proceeds forward, I would like to remind you that many of the mysteries surrounding this folklore are evident today and can also be tested. To the common peasant along their time line, what they may have witnessed would appear as though it was a form of magic, when in fact it was technology based. What amazes me is how an advance alien civilization could take their technology and embed it in such ways, right in front of your face, and you wouldn't even know it. Whether it look like a rock slab or a pyramid, these aliens used quartz embedded with a certain mix within the objects they used to do their bidding. Right in front of your face and you wouldn't suspect a thing as you look upon a statue or a table. I could go on but you get the jest here as to where this is going. It is also another reason why they are grabbing and hauling off many artifacts, as they also have these piezoelectric properties.
A most interesting thread, Brook.
The piezoelectric effect is understood as the linear electromechanical interaction between the mechanical and the electrical state in crystalline materials with no inversion symmetry.[3] The piezoelectric effect is a reversible process in that materials exhibiting the direct piezoelectric effect (the internal generation of electrical charge resulting from an applied mechanical force) also exhibit the reverse piezoelectric effect (the internal generation of a mechanical force resulting from an applied electrical field). For example, lead zirconate titanate crystals will generate measurable piezoelectricity when their static structure is deformed to about 0.1% of the original dimension. Conversely, lead zirconate titanate crystals will change about 0.1% of their static dimension when an external electric field is applied to the material.
Piezoelectricity is found in useful applications such as the production and detection of sound, generation of high voltages, electronic frequency generation, microbalances, and ultra fine focusing of optical assemblies. It is also the basis of a number of scientific instrumental techniques with atomic resolution, the scanning probe microscopies such as STM, AFM, MTA, SNOM, etc., and everyday uses such as acting as the ignition source for cigarette lighters and push-start propane barbecues.
The above quoted from Wikipedia.
As this thread proceeds forward, I would like to remind you that many of the mysteries surrounding this folklore are evident today and can also be tested. To the common peasant along their time line, what they may have witnessed would appear as though it was a form of magic, when in fact it was technology based. What amazes me is how an advance alien civilization could take their technology and embed it in such ways, right in front of your face, and you wouldn't even know it. Whether it look like a rock slab or a pyramid, these aliens used quartz embedded with a certain mix within the objects they used to do their bidding. Right in front of your face and you wouldn't suspect a thing as you look upon a statue or a table. I could go on but you get the jest here as to where this is going. It is also another reason why they are grabbing and hauling off many artifacts, as they also have these piezoelectric properties.
A most interesting thread, Brook.
Last edited by Lionhawk on Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:59 am; edited 1 time in total
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
Welcome Instigator! Talk about a trigger! That was a great post! As I looked this up I found some interesting facts about it's origins
Chi Rho
The Chi Rho is one of the earliest forms of christogram, and is used by Christians. It is formed by superimposing the first two letters in the Greek spelling of the word Christ ( Greek : "Χριστός" ), chi = ch and rho = r, in such a way to produce the monogram ☧. Although not technically a cross, the Chi Rho invokes the crucifixion of Jesus as well as symbolizing his status as the Christ[1].
The Chi-Rho symbol was also used by pagan Greek scribes to mark, in
the margin, a particularly valuable or relevant passage; the combined
letters Chi and Rho standing for chrēston, meaning "good."[2][3] Some coins of Ptolemy III Euergetes were marked with a Chi-Rho.
though modern representations of the chi-rho sign represent the two
lines crossing at ninety degree angles, the early examples of the
Chi-Rho cross at an angle that is more vividly representative of the chi formed by the solar ecliptic path and the celestial equator.
The use of a wreath around the Chi Rho symbolizes the victory of the Resurrection over death.........
Very interesting post Instigator...thanks for the information 
Chi Rho
The Chi Rho is one of the earliest forms of christogram, and is used by Christians. It is formed by superimposing the first two letters in the Greek spelling of the word Christ ( Greek : "Χριστός" ), chi = ch and rho = r, in such a way to produce the monogram ☧. Although not technically a cross, the Chi Rho invokes the crucifixion of Jesus as well as symbolizing his status as the Christ[1].
The Chi-Rho symbol was also used by pagan Greek scribes to mark, in
the margin, a particularly valuable or relevant passage; the combined
letters Chi and Rho standing for chrēston, meaning "good."[2][3] Some coins of Ptolemy III Euergetes were marked with a Chi-Rho.
though modern representations of the chi-rho sign represent the two
lines crossing at ninety degree angles, the early examples of the
Chi-Rho cross at an angle that is more vividly representative of the chi formed by the solar ecliptic path and the celestial equator.
The use of a wreath around the Chi Rho symbolizes the victory of the Resurrection over death.........
Very interesting post Instigator...thanks for the information
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
Lionhawk wrote:Piezoelectricity is the charge which accumulates in certain solid materials (notably crystals, certain ceramics, and biological matter such as bone, DNA and various proteins)[1] in response to applied mechanical strain. The word piezoelectricity means electricity resulting from pressure. It is derived from the Greek piezo or piezein (πιέζειν), which means to squeeze or press, and electric or electron (ήλεκτρον), which stands for amber – an ancient source of electric charge.[2] Piezoelectricity is the direct result of the piezoelectric effect.
The piezoelectric effect is understood as the linear electromechanical interaction between the mechanical and the electrical state in crystalline materials with no inversion symmetry.[3] The piezoelectric effect is a reversible process in that materials exhibiting the direct piezoelectric effect (the internal generation of electrical charge resulting from an applied mechanical force) also exhibit the reverse piezoelectric effect (the internal generation of a mechanical force resulting from an applied electrical field). For example, lead zirconate titanate crystals will generate measurable piezoelectricity when their static structure is deformed to about 0.1% of the original dimension. Conversely, lead zirconate titanate crystals will change about 0.1% of their static dimension when an external electric field is applied to the material.
Piezoelectricity is found in useful applications such as the production and detection of sound, generation of high voltages, electronic frequency generation, microbalances, and ultra fine focusing of optical assemblies. It is also the basis of a number of scientific instrumental techniques with atomic resolution, the scanning probe microscopies such as STM, AFM, MTA, SNOM, etc., and everyday uses such as acting as the ignition source for cigarette lighters and push-start propane barbecues.
The above quoted from Wikipedia.
As this thread proceeds forward, I would like to remind you that many of the mysteries surrounding this folklore are evident today and can also be tested. To the common peasant along their time line, what they may have witnessed would appear as though it was a form of magic, when in fact it was technology based. What amazes me is how an advance alien civilization could take their technology and embed it in such ways, right in front of your face, and you wouldn't even know it. Whether it look like a rock slab or a pyramid, these aliens used quartz embedded with a certain mix within the objects they used to do their bidding. Right in front of your face and you wouldn't suspect a thing as you look upon a statue or a table. I could go on but you get the jest here as to where this is going. It is also another reason why they are grabbing and hauling off many artifacts, as they also have these piezoelectric properties.
A most interesting thread, Brook.
Thank you Lionhawk for this input...very important information. I will refer you to two interesting videos now....it's a group of five that are quite interesting..but this particular one describes one form of what you are speaking of here in the terms of frequency and harmonics
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
Instigator wrote:
Hello there, My first post here, excellent thread got me out from the boom docks to present a possible theory to Ptah and Ptolemy.
Priesthood of Ptolemy may actually be the double cross symbol used throughout time( Chi Ro ) the X with a P through which could be the "Solomon's key".
Could the P be Ptah, as mentioned in your summation pasted as the creator god? Or perhaps the P formation mirrored in the stars indicate a likely origin next to constellation of Orian ?
This "secret" is most likely the one of the most important symbols that all secret society's are based on ..... Even the use to the Chi-Ro on roman head wear during the roman empire, and also the same symbol represented on coins during that era symbolized the worship and the importance of this "secret" knowledge.
This means virtually all secret society's are Ptah /Lucifer worship? , I am linking both as now I believe that they may be linked strongly in some way.
Chi Ro or double cross has been a sacred symbol for the Reptilian/Draconian empires, almost like a flag or badge in respect to their "god" or worship or a symbolic reference honouring the sacred P.
I find it interesting that the P in the double cross could represent Ptah , the self proclaimed creator of life here on earth as mentioned in the emeralds tablets.
The re-writers of history could actually have brainwashed their whole empire into this illusion that's the sad part of all this
One thing for sure, if this is correct these reptilian/draconians will be remembered through out the history of the universe as the dumbest species of all time, who not only mind control every world they come across but also the ultimate mind control and brainwashing of their own kind ....... Sounds like they could be a scared bunch of unimportant beings whom only roll in the entire universe is to control and manipulate an ignorant species into giving them their powers to give them some feeling of importance. The only sad part is that the ignorant species in this case is most of the incarnates on earth, surely this foul stench of Reptilian/Draconian coffee will be noticed by the masses sooner rather than later and humanity can finally reclaim their innate power instead of giving it to others or do we have to sacrifice mother earth for our own ignorance ? Time will tell but I firmly believe humans will compute the aroma in time to drive these unimportant manipulators back to space dust where they belong.
Top thread
Namaste
Another strange coincidence....the Rosetta Stone was actually a decree written by King Ptolemy V, in Memphis around 196 BCE......interesting
The Rosetta Stone is part of an Ancient Egyptian granodiorite stele with engraved text that provided the key to modern understanding of Egyptian hieroglyphs. The inscription records a decree that was issued at Memphis in 196 BCE on behalf of King Ptolemy V. The decree appears in three texts: the upper one is in ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs, the middle one in Egyptian demotic script, and the lower text in ancient Greek.
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
At the risk of repeating some things I've already posted, in regards to "harmonics" and "frequency"...now is a good time to bring to the table again the
"F sharp"
Experiments conducted in the King's Chamber of
the Great Pyramid and in Chambers above the King's Chamber suggest that
the pyramid was constructed with a sonic purpose.
Identifies four resident frequencies, or notes, that are enhanced by
the structure of the pyramid, and by the materials used in its
construction. The notes from an F Sharp chord, which according to ancient Egyptian texts were the harmonic of our planet.
Moreover, tests show that these frequencies are present in the King's
Chamber seven when no sounds are being produced. They are there in
frequencies that range from 16 Hertz down to 1/2 Hertz, well below the
range of human hearing. These vibrations are caused by the wind blowing
across the ends of the so-called shafts --- in the same way as sounds
are created when one blows across the top of a bottle.
Note: Native
American maker of sacred flutes from Oregon. The flutes, which are made
to serenade Mother Earth, are tuned to the key of F Sharp!
http://web.archive.org/web/200308011...e.com/said.htm
A Neutron Star in F-sharp
Jonathan E. Grindlay1
Millisecond pulsars are extreme examples of what can happen when stars evolve into neutron stars in compact binary systems.
These rotating objects are spun up by accretion of matter from their
binary companions, producing luminous X-ray emission, and later become
detectable as pulsars with periods of a few milliseconds (1). As a
result, these “fast pulsars” may offer some of the best probes to study
matter and space in the relativistic regime of strong gravity. On page
1901, Hessels et al (2) report the discovery of pulsar PSR J1748-2446ad
in the dense globular cluster Terzan 5 (Ter5-ad). This object, detected
with the Green Bank radio Telescope, holds the new record for the
fastest spinning neutron star (or indeed any object of stellar mass or
larger). Its spin period is only 1.396 ms, even shorter than that of
B1937+21 [the first millisecond pulsar discovered (3)] at1.558 ms. With
a rotation frequency of 716 Hz, Ter5-ad reaches a new high note for the
music of the celestial spheres – between F and F sharp
here is more of the paper written...
http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0605/0605117.pdf
1 The author is at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, 60 Garden St., Cambridge, MA 02138. E-mail: josh@cfa.harvard.edu
And here is another reference to "F sharp"
Massive quake leaves neutron star ringing note of “F sharp”
A massive quake in a neutron star left the super-dense star ringing
like a bell, researchers say—and if we could have heard it, it would
have sounded a slightly miss tuned version of the note from a piano’s
22nd key, called F sharp.
scientists say this vibration will let them for the first time
probe what’s inside a neutron star, a super-compact object believed to
be something like a giant atomic nucleus.
NASA also released an animation of an explosion that accompanied the
quake. Researchers said it occurred halfway across our Milky Way galaxy
and was the largest of its type ever recorded.
An international team of astrophysicists described the blast in the
July 20 issue of Astrophysical Journal Letters, a research journal.
They said the burst produced vibrations in the star that generated
quick fluctuations in the X-ray radiation it released into space. These
pulses are emitted during each seven-second rotation of the
fast-spinning star and reveal the frequency, or speed, of the star’s
vibrations.
“This explosion was akin to hitting the neutron star with a gigantic
hammer, causing it to ring like a bell,” said Richard Rothschild, an
astrophysicist at the University of California and one of the authors
of the report.
“Now the question is: what does the frequency of the neutron star’s oscillations—the tone produced by the ringing bell—mean?”
And isn't it interesting that the frequency is also in the Kings chamber in the Great Pyramids...
http://www.world-science.net/otherne..._fsharpfrm.htm
And again........
Fractal Geometry and F Sharp.....
Starting with F
Studying the frequency of natural catastrophes, one of us
(K.J.H.) came to realize an inverse log-log linear relation
between the frequency (F) and a parameter expressing the
intensity of the events (M), be they earthquakes, landslides,
floods, or meteorite impacts (2), and the relation can be stated
by the simple equation
F= c/MD.
Only later did we realize that this relation has been called
fractal by Mandelbrot (3), where c is a constant of proportionality
and D is the fractal dimension. Fractal relations have
commonly a lower and an upper limit. In the case of earthquakes,
for example, Eq. 2 holds only for the interval 3 -AM
c 9, because the smallest earthquakes are not represented by
significant statistics, nor is the energy release of large earthquakes
infinite.
Mandelbrot (3) put together certain geometric shapes
whose "monstrous" forms were very irregular and fragmented;
he coined the term fractal to denote them. Those
"monsters" were considered irrelevant to nature, akin to
modern atonal music (4), until Mandelbrot suggested that the
fractal relation could be the central conceptual tool to understand
the harmony of nature.
We have been searching for a meaning of melody. Is it
tradition or convention, or is it an instinctive expression of a
natural law? Could we find a mathematical relation to describe
a melody? Could the music of Bach be mathematically
distinguished from that of Stockhausen? Could we use mathematics
to describe the evolution of music from the primitive
folk's music to the atonal music of today? If music is an
expression of nature's harmony, could music have a fractal
geometry? Which, the atonal or the classical
http://www.pnas.org/content/87/3/938.full.pdf
Now let's look at the "Sharp" Frequency
The Cycle Spinning-based Sharp Frequency Localized Contourlet Transform
for Image Denoising
Images acquired by sensors are often abrupt by
noise. Since the noise spreads over all the coefficients
while image information concentrates on a few largest
ones in the wavelet transform domain, wavelet
becomes the most successful transform for denoising.
However, traditional two dimension wavelet is hard to
represent sharp image transitions [1] and smoothness
along the contours [2]. Hence, bandelet [1] with
adaptation to the geometric structure and contourlet [2]
with anisotropy scaling law and directionality are
presented to sparsely represent natural images. They
both achieve better denoising performance than
wavelet and also outperform wavelet in image fusion
[3] [4]. However, the computation of geometry in
bandelet is in high complexity thus it is not commonly
used in other image processing tasks except image
denoising, compression [1] and fusion [3].
Contourlet [2] proposed by Minh N. Do and Martin
Vetterli is utilized to capture intrinsic geometrical
structure and offer flexible multiscale and directional
expansion form images. Because of the nearly critical
sampling and fast iterated filter bank algorithm,
contourlet is in lower complexity than bandelet.
However, non-ideal filter are used in the original
contourlet result in significant amount of aliasing
components showing up at location far away from the
desired support [5] and exhibit some fuzzy artifacts
along the main image ridges. Yue Lu [5] proposes a
new construction of the contourlet, called sharp
frequency localization contourlet transform (SFLCT)
and alleviates the non-localization problem even with
the same redundancy of the original contourlet.
Unfortunately, due to the downsamplers and
upsamplers presented in the directional filter banks of
SFLCT, SFLCT is not shift-invariant, which is
important in image denoising by thresholding and
easily causes pseudo-Gibbs phenomena around
singularities [6].In this paper, we apply cycle spinning
[6] to compensate for the lack of translation invariance
property of SFLCT and successfully employed in
image denoising. Experimental results demonstrate that
our proposed method outperforms the original
contourlet (CT), SFLCT and cycle spinning-based
contourlet (CS-CT) in terms of PSNR and visual effect
"F sharp"
Experiments conducted in the King's Chamber of
the Great Pyramid and in Chambers above the King's Chamber suggest that
the pyramid was constructed with a sonic purpose.
Identifies four resident frequencies, or notes, that are enhanced by
the structure of the pyramid, and by the materials used in its
construction. The notes from an F Sharp chord, which according to ancient Egyptian texts were the harmonic of our planet.
Moreover, tests show that these frequencies are present in the King's
Chamber seven when no sounds are being produced. They are there in
frequencies that range from 16 Hertz down to 1/2 Hertz, well below the
range of human hearing. These vibrations are caused by the wind blowing
across the ends of the so-called shafts --- in the same way as sounds
are created when one blows across the top of a bottle.
Note: Native
American maker of sacred flutes from Oregon. The flutes, which are made
to serenade Mother Earth, are tuned to the key of F Sharp!
http://web.archive.org/web/200308011...e.com/said.htm
A Neutron Star in F-sharp
Jonathan E. Grindlay1
Millisecond pulsars are extreme examples of what can happen when stars evolve into neutron stars in compact binary systems.
These rotating objects are spun up by accretion of matter from their
binary companions, producing luminous X-ray emission, and later become
detectable as pulsars with periods of a few milliseconds (1). As a
result, these “fast pulsars” may offer some of the best probes to study
matter and space in the relativistic regime of strong gravity. On page
1901, Hessels et al (2) report the discovery of pulsar PSR J1748-2446ad
in the dense globular cluster Terzan 5 (Ter5-ad). This object, detected
with the Green Bank radio Telescope, holds the new record for the
fastest spinning neutron star (or indeed any object of stellar mass or
larger). Its spin period is only 1.396 ms, even shorter than that of
B1937+21 [the first millisecond pulsar discovered (3)] at1.558 ms. With
a rotation frequency of 716 Hz, Ter5-ad reaches a new high note for the
music of the celestial spheres – between F and F sharp
here is more of the paper written...
http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0605/0605117.pdf
1 The author is at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, 60 Garden St., Cambridge, MA 02138. E-mail: josh@cfa.harvard.edu
And here is another reference to "F sharp"
Massive quake leaves neutron star ringing note of “F sharp”
A massive quake in a neutron star left the super-dense star ringing
like a bell, researchers say—and if we could have heard it, it would
have sounded a slightly miss tuned version of the note from a piano’s
22nd key, called F sharp.
scientists say this vibration will let them for the first time
probe what’s inside a neutron star, a super-compact object believed to
be something like a giant atomic nucleus.
NASA also released an animation of an explosion that accompanied the
quake. Researchers said it occurred halfway across our Milky Way galaxy
and was the largest of its type ever recorded.
An international team of astrophysicists described the blast in the
July 20 issue of Astrophysical Journal Letters, a research journal.
They said the burst produced vibrations in the star that generated
quick fluctuations in the X-ray radiation it released into space. These
pulses are emitted during each seven-second rotation of the
fast-spinning star and reveal the frequency, or speed, of the star’s
vibrations.
“This explosion was akin to hitting the neutron star with a gigantic
hammer, causing it to ring like a bell,” said Richard Rothschild, an
astrophysicist at the University of California and one of the authors
of the report.
“Now the question is: what does the frequency of the neutron star’s oscillations—the tone produced by the ringing bell—mean?”
And isn't it interesting that the frequency is also in the Kings chamber in the Great Pyramids...
http://www.world-science.net/otherne..._fsharpfrm.htm
And again........
Fractal Geometry and F Sharp.....
Starting with F
Studying the frequency of natural catastrophes, one of us
(K.J.H.) came to realize an inverse log-log linear relation
between the frequency (F) and a parameter expressing the
intensity of the events (M), be they earthquakes, landslides,
floods, or meteorite impacts (2), and the relation can be stated
by the simple equation
F= c/MD.
Only later did we realize that this relation has been called
fractal by Mandelbrot (3), where c is a constant of proportionality
and D is the fractal dimension. Fractal relations have
commonly a lower and an upper limit. In the case of earthquakes,
for example, Eq. 2 holds only for the interval 3 -AM
c 9, because the smallest earthquakes are not represented by
significant statistics, nor is the energy release of large earthquakes
infinite.
Mandelbrot (3) put together certain geometric shapes
whose "monstrous" forms were very irregular and fragmented;
he coined the term fractal to denote them. Those
"monsters" were considered irrelevant to nature, akin to
modern atonal music (4), until Mandelbrot suggested that the
fractal relation could be the central conceptual tool to understand
the harmony of nature.
We have been searching for a meaning of melody. Is it
tradition or convention, or is it an instinctive expression of a
natural law? Could we find a mathematical relation to describe
a melody? Could the music of Bach be mathematically
distinguished from that of Stockhausen? Could we use mathematics
to describe the evolution of music from the primitive
folk's music to the atonal music of today? If music is an
expression of nature's harmony, could music have a fractal
geometry? Which, the atonal or the classical
http://www.pnas.org/content/87/3/938.full.pdf
Now let's look at the "Sharp" Frequency
The Cycle Spinning-based Sharp Frequency Localized Contourlet Transform
for Image Denoising
Images acquired by sensors are often abrupt by
noise. Since the noise spreads over all the coefficients
while image information concentrates on a few largest
ones in the wavelet transform domain, wavelet
becomes the most successful transform for denoising.
However, traditional two dimension wavelet is hard to
represent sharp image transitions [1] and smoothness
along the contours [2]. Hence, bandelet [1] with
adaptation to the geometric structure and contourlet [2]
with anisotropy scaling law and directionality are
presented to sparsely represent natural images. They
both achieve better denoising performance than
wavelet and also outperform wavelet in image fusion
[3] [4]. However, the computation of geometry in
bandelet is in high complexity thus it is not commonly
used in other image processing tasks except image
denoising, compression [1] and fusion [3].
Contourlet [2] proposed by Minh N. Do and Martin
Vetterli is utilized to capture intrinsic geometrical
structure and offer flexible multiscale and directional
expansion form images. Because of the nearly critical
sampling and fast iterated filter bank algorithm,
contourlet is in lower complexity than bandelet.
However, non-ideal filter are used in the original
contourlet result in significant amount of aliasing
components showing up at location far away from the
desired support [5] and exhibit some fuzzy artifacts
along the main image ridges. Yue Lu [5] proposes a
new construction of the contourlet, called sharp
frequency localization contourlet transform (SFLCT)
and alleviates the non-localization problem even with
the same redundancy of the original contourlet.
Unfortunately, due to the downsamplers and
upsamplers presented in the directional filter banks of
SFLCT, SFLCT is not shift-invariant, which is
important in image denoising by thresholding and
easily causes pseudo-Gibbs phenomena around
singularities [6].In this paper, we apply cycle spinning
[6] to compensate for the lack of translation invariance
property of SFLCT and successfully employed in
image denoising. Experimental results demonstrate that
our proposed method outperforms the original
contourlet (CT), SFLCT and cycle spinning-based
contourlet (CS-CT) in terms of PSNR and visual effect
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
Now....back to the "disc" Be it sun or not...here is one of Greek origin
Phaistos - also Phaestos and Phaestus - was an ancient city on the
island of Crete. Map of Minoan CretePhaistos was located in the
south-central portion of the island, about 3 1/2 miles from the sea. It
was inhabited from about 4000 BC. A palace, dating from the Middle
Bronze Age, was destroyed by an earthquake during the Late Bronze Age.
Knossos and other Minoan sites were also destroyed at that time. The
palace was later rebuilt toward the end of the Late Bronze Age. The
area upon which Phaistos stood was the site where, in 1908, a curious
clay disk, dating to about 1700 BC, and containing a sophisticated
pictographic writing, was discovered.
The Phaistos Disk is a curious archaeological find, most likely
dating from about 1700 BC. Its purpose and meaning, and even its
original geographical place of manufacture, remain disputed, making it
one of the most famous mysteries of archaeology.
The Phaistos Disc was discovered in the basement of room XL-101
of the Minoan palace-site of Phaistos, near Hagia Triada, on the south
coast of Crete. Italian archaeologist Luigi Pernier recovered this
remarkably intact "dish", about 15 cm in diameter and uniformly just
over 1 cm thick, on July 3, 1908.
Luigi Pernier discovered the disc during his excavation of the
first Minoan palace. It was found in the main cell of an underground
"temple depository". These basement cells, only accessible from above,
were neatly covered with a layer of fine plaster. Their context was
poor in precious artifacts but rich in black earth and ashes, mixed
with burnt bovine bones. In the northern part of the main cell, a few
inches south-east of the disk, and about twenty inches above the floor,
linear A tablet PH-1 was also found. The site apparently collapsed as a
result of an earthquake, possibly linked with the explosive eruption of
the Santorini volcano that affected large parts of the Mediterranean
region ca. 1628 BC.
Found at the same site
Where have I seen those spirals before?
Phaistos - also Phaestos and Phaestus - was an ancient city on the
island of Crete. Map of Minoan CretePhaistos was located in the
south-central portion of the island, about 3 1/2 miles from the sea. It
was inhabited from about 4000 BC. A palace, dating from the Middle
Bronze Age, was destroyed by an earthquake during the Late Bronze Age.
Knossos and other Minoan sites were also destroyed at that time. The
palace was later rebuilt toward the end of the Late Bronze Age. The
area upon which Phaistos stood was the site where, in 1908, a curious
clay disk, dating to about 1700 BC, and containing a sophisticated
pictographic writing, was discovered.
The Phaistos Disk is a curious archaeological find, most likely
dating from about 1700 BC. Its purpose and meaning, and even its
original geographical place of manufacture, remain disputed, making it
one of the most famous mysteries of archaeology.
The Phaistos Disc was discovered in the basement of room XL-101
of the Minoan palace-site of Phaistos, near Hagia Triada, on the south
coast of Crete. Italian archaeologist Luigi Pernier recovered this
remarkably intact "dish", about 15 cm in diameter and uniformly just
over 1 cm thick, on July 3, 1908.
Luigi Pernier discovered the disc during his excavation of the
first Minoan palace. It was found in the main cell of an underground
"temple depository". These basement cells, only accessible from above,
were neatly covered with a layer of fine plaster. Their context was
poor in precious artifacts but rich in black earth and ashes, mixed
with burnt bovine bones. In the northern part of the main cell, a few
inches south-east of the disk, and about twenty inches above the floor,
linear A tablet PH-1 was also found. The site apparently collapsed as a
result of an earthquake, possibly linked with the explosive eruption of
the Santorini volcano that affected large parts of the Mediterranean
region ca. 1628 BC.
Found at the same site
Where have I seen those spirals before?
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
The
Lion Gate at Mycenae
Lion Gate at Mycenae
The twin lions shown here flanking
a pillar were positioned above the main entrance to the citadel of Mycenae.
The gate was about 10 feet wide and 10 feet high; the carved stone with the
lions is about three feet high. It forms what is called a "relieving triangle",
because the carved slab weighs much less than the stones to the right and left;
this reduced pressure on the lintel block below it. That block weighs two tons
or so. The door was made up of two wooden leaves opening inward.
The lions originally had heads
made of metal, but they have long since disappeared. The column the two lions
stand beside perhaps represented the god of the royal house; the lions served
to guard the entrance. Compare the lions in front of some public (and ostentatious
private) buildings today, such as the New
York Public Library Lions.
<blockquote> </blockquote>
<blockquote> Here's a shot of
the lions on a sunny day (Perseus).
Here's a shot of the
approach to the gate (Perseus).
Here a shot of
the gate from the inside (Perseus).
Here's
the main Perseus page on Mycenae. It includes
a detailed site-plan of the citadel and a
large scale plan of the entire site, which includes a nifty segment on
the citadel with linked images.
</blockquote>
The fortifications of Mycenae,
as those of most other Mycenaean palaces, were extensive. The Lion Gate itself
was protectd by a large postern, or outcrop in the wall, to the right of the
gate (as you went in). This meant that attackers had to expose their right,
unshielded side, to missile fire from the defenders. Mycenae also had a small
postern gate to the rear to allow defenders to sally out and attack the attackers,
and a secret tunnel which allowed the defenders access to underground sources
of water outside the circuit of the walls. The stones used to build these fortifications
were so big that later Greeks called them Cyclopean: for only the mythological
Cyclops could have built with such huge stones.
http://languages.siuc.edu/classics/Johnson/Greeks/BArt/Gate.html[/center]
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
The Lion Gate
of Mycenae was the entrance to the city. Atop the gate, two lions rampant
are carved in stone relief. Similar bas-reliefs of two lions rampant facing
each other are found in a number of places in Phrygia in Asia Minor.1
“The resemblance
in idea is complete,” wrote W. M. Ramsay in 1888.2 He considered the scheme “so peculiarly characteristic
of Phrygia, that we can hardly admit it to have been borrowed from any
other country.” He found himself “driven to the conclusion that
the Mycenaean artists either are Phrygians or learned the idea from the
Phrygians.”3 “It is not allowable to separate them [the Phrygian
and Mycenaean monuments] in time by several centuries.”4
“The Phrygian
monuments,” in Ramsay’s view, belong to the ninth and eighth
centuries.5
. . . The end
of the Phrygian kingdom is a fixed date, about 675 B.C.”6 when the invasion of Asia Minor by the Cimmerians put an
end to the Phrygian culture and art. Ramsay went on:
<blockquote> I do not think
it is allowable to place the Mycenaean gateway earlier than the ninth,
and it is more likely to belong to the eighth century.
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
The view
to which I find myself forced is as follows. There was in the eighth
century lively intercourse between Argos and Asia Minor: in this intercourse
the Argives learned . . . to fortify their city in the Phrygian style
with lions over the gate. Historically there is certainly good reason
to assign at least part of the fortifications of Mycenae to the time
when the Argive kings [the tyrants of the eighth century] were the greatest
power in Greece [here follow the names of several authorities among
the historians who hold the same view].8
On the other
hand, the almost universal opinion of archaeologists rejects this hypothesis.
. . .
</blockquote>
of Mycenae was the entrance to the city. Atop the gate, two lions rampant
are carved in stone relief. Similar bas-reliefs of two lions rampant facing
each other are found in a number of places in Phrygia in Asia Minor.1
 |  | |
| The Lion Gate of Mycenae | Arslantas, Rock-cut Phrygian tomb |
“The resemblance
in idea is complete,” wrote W. M. Ramsay in 1888.2 He considered the scheme “so peculiarly characteristic
of Phrygia, that we can hardly admit it to have been borrowed from any
other country.” He found himself “driven to the conclusion that
the Mycenaean artists either are Phrygians or learned the idea from the
Phrygians.”3 “It is not allowable to separate them [the Phrygian
and Mycenaean monuments] in time by several centuries.”4
“The Phrygian
monuments,” in Ramsay’s view, belong to the ninth and eighth
centuries.5
. . . The end
of the Phrygian kingdom is a fixed date, about 675 B.C.”6 when the invasion of Asia Minor by the Cimmerians put an
end to the Phrygian culture and art. Ramsay went on:
<blockquote> I do not think
it is allowable to place the Mycenaean gateway earlier than the ninth,
and it is more likely to belong to the eighth century.
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
The view
to which I find myself forced is as follows. There was in the eighth
century lively intercourse between Argos and Asia Minor: in this intercourse
the Argives learned . . . to fortify their city in the Phrygian style
with lions over the gate. Historically there is certainly good reason
to assign at least part of the fortifications of Mycenae to the time
when the Argive kings [the tyrants of the eighth century] were the greatest
power in Greece [here follow the names of several authorities among
the historians who hold the same view].8
On the other
hand, the almost universal opinion of archaeologists rejects this hypothesis.
. . .
</blockquote>
Oriental influences
found in the remains of Mycenae are “precisely what we should expect
in a kingdom like the Argos of the eighth century,” when this kingdom
had intercourse with Asia Minor, Phoenicia and Egypt. “I wish however
to express no opinion here about the date of the Mycenaean tombs and about
Mycenaean pottery, but only to argue that the fortifications of the Lion
Gate belong to the period 800-700 B.C.”
http://www.varchive.org/dag/lionga.htm
found in the remains of Mycenae are “precisely what we should expect
in a kingdom like the Argos of the eighth century,” when this kingdom
had intercourse with Asia Minor, Phoenicia and Egypt. “I wish however
to express no opinion here about the date of the Mycenaean tombs and about
Mycenaean pottery, but only to argue that the fortifications of the Lion
Gate belong to the period 800-700 B.C.”
http://www.varchive.org/dag/lionga.htm
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
The Dropa Stone Discs
The Dropa (also known as Dropas, Drok-pa or Dzopa) are, according to
certain controversial writers, a race of dwarf-like extraterrestrials
who landed near the Chinese-Tibetan border some twelve thousand years
ago. Skeptics note, however, a number of problems with the case (and a
lack of corroborative evidence), which offers significant doubt as to
the reality of the more sensationalistic Dropa claims. Mainstream
critics argue that the entire affair is a hoax. Alleged Discovery -- Chi Pu Tei, a professor of archaeology at Beijing
University, and his students were on an expedition to explore a series
of caves in the pathless Himalayan mountains of the remote
Bayan-Kara-Ula in Qinghai on the border of China and Tibet. The caves
may have been artificially carved to be a system of tunnels and
underground storerooms. The walls were squared and glazed, as if cut
into the mountain with great heat.
They found many neat rows of tombs with short 4 ft 4 in inch
skeletons buried within. The skeletons had abnormally big heads, and
small, thin, fragile bodies. A member of the team suggested that these
might be the remains of an unknown species of mountain gorilla. Prof.
Chi Pu Tei was said to respond, "Who ever heard of apes burying one
another?"
There were no epitaphs at the graves, but instead hundreds of
one foot wide stone discs ("Dropa Stones") were found having 3/4 inch
wide holes in their centers. On the walls were carved pictures of the
rising sun, moon, stars, the land, mountains, and lines of pea-sized
dots connecting the earth with the sky. Along with the discs, the cave
drawings had been determined to be about 12,000 years old.
Dropa Stones
Each stone disk was reportedly inscribed with two fine grooves
spiraling from the edge to a hole in the disk's center, perhaps not
unlike the Phaistos Disk.
Hmmmmmm........are we starting to see a pattern yet? The relation to Disks.....Lions.......Gods..................
The Dropa (also known as Dropas, Drok-pa or Dzopa) are, according to
certain controversial writers, a race of dwarf-like extraterrestrials
who landed near the Chinese-Tibetan border some twelve thousand years
ago. Skeptics note, however, a number of problems with the case (and a
lack of corroborative evidence), which offers significant doubt as to
the reality of the more sensationalistic Dropa claims. Mainstream
critics argue that the entire affair is a hoax. Alleged Discovery -- Chi Pu Tei, a professor of archaeology at Beijing
University, and his students were on an expedition to explore a series
of caves in the pathless Himalayan mountains of the remote
Bayan-Kara-Ula in Qinghai on the border of China and Tibet. The caves
may have been artificially carved to be a system of tunnels and
underground storerooms. The walls were squared and glazed, as if cut
into the mountain with great heat.
They found many neat rows of tombs with short 4 ft 4 in inch
skeletons buried within. The skeletons had abnormally big heads, and
small, thin, fragile bodies. A member of the team suggested that these
might be the remains of an unknown species of mountain gorilla. Prof.
Chi Pu Tei was said to respond, "Who ever heard of apes burying one
another?"
There were no epitaphs at the graves, but instead hundreds of
one foot wide stone discs ("Dropa Stones") were found having 3/4 inch
wide holes in their centers. On the walls were carved pictures of the
rising sun, moon, stars, the land, mountains, and lines of pea-sized
dots connecting the earth with the sky. Along with the discs, the cave
drawings had been determined to be about 12,000 years old.
Dropa Stones
Each stone disk was reportedly inscribed with two fine grooves
spiraling from the edge to a hole in the disk's center, perhaps not
unlike the Phaistos Disk.
Hmmmmmm........are we starting to see a pattern yet? The relation to Disks.....Lions.......Gods..................
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
lindabaker- Posts : 1385
Join date : 2010-04-15
Location : straight ahead
I vote this the most interesting thread ever, Brook yu rock. Lionhawk, there are present day versions of the sound frequency healing technologies in place right now. Of course, they are "dissed" on the net, made to be under suspicion, because they work and would take down the present medical money machine in the US and elsewhere. Where are the healers? When will they stand up and say: "I must uphold my vow to 'Do No Harm'?" The ability to diagnose by electromagnetics and heal by frequency modulation is here, available, and is so so suppressed. What can we do? I have personally experienced the frequency diagnosis and resultant healing through frequency modulation. It would fix so many many conditions for us. I believe it saved my life by diagnosing a particular bacteria. I took a frequency specific antidote. Otherwise, I would be in a different place right now, I think.
I can put people in touch with the folks distributing the technology if anyone would like to know...
Now is the time for knowledge to come back for us on this planet, and this will be our era for finding the information that has been denied to us for so long. We don't need off planet entities to show us technology aboard their ships. We already have that technology. We just need to let it become mainstream and become "legal."
I can put people in touch with the folks distributing the technology if anyone would like to know...
Now is the time for knowledge to come back for us on this planet, and this will be our era for finding the information that has been denied to us for so long. We don't need off planet entities to show us technology aboard their ships. We already have that technology. We just need to let it become mainstream and become "legal."
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
I vote this the most interesting thread ever, Brook yu rock. Lionhawk,
there are present day versions of the sound frequency healing
technologies in place right now. Of course, they are "dissed" on the
net, made to be under suspicion, because they work and would take down
the present medical money machine in the US and elsewhere. Where are
the healers? When will they stand up and say: "I must uphold my vow to
'Do No Harm'?" The ability to diagnose by electromagnetics and heal by
frequency modulation is here, available, and is so so suppressed. What
can we do? I have personally experienced the frequency diagnosis and
resultant healing through frequency modulation. It would fix so many
many conditions for us. I believe it saved my life by diagnosing a
particular bacteria. I took a frequency specific antidote. Otherwise, I
would be in a different place right now, I think.
I can put people in touch with the folks distributing the technology if anyone would like to know...
Now
is the time for knowledge to come back for us on this planet, and this
will be our era for finding the information that has been denied to us
for so long. We don't need off planet entities to show us technology
aboard their ships. We already have that technology. We just need to
let it become mainstream and become "legal."
Thank you Linda
suppressing of the technology that can free us from many things is the power to enslave us. And that is the mentality of TPTB. We are nothing but slaves to do their work for them. They are at a fork in the road though....as many now have the eyes to see the truth..and many are forging ahead to bring it to light. And as bad as things seem right now.....things are actually getting better if you can believe that...I do. I know they cannot keep a hold on us for very much longer....and that is something to celebrate
Guest- Guest
Thank-you for a terrific thread Brook! I haven't read through all of it yet, but I will do so today. As you mentioned - I was passively upset on Avalon 1 that my Thuban stuff was removed for an extended period of time - and I was moderately upset that Avalon 1 was closed. I still visit AV1 at least once a week - and I notice that more people are using AV1 than AV2. We must have hit a sensitive and powerful nerve! All of this is a game (corrupt vs stupid?)- which must be played properly. I'm interested in the folklore and symbolism - but I am more interested in WHO created them - and more importantly WHY?
I am interested in male/female, human/reptile, black/white, master/slave, historical/contemporary, truth/lies, purity/corruption, sanity/insanity, and the true nature of human, grey, reptilian, and hybrid souls (are they all the same?). I am hypothesizing a central Lucifer/Goddess figure over thousands or tens of thousands of years - which could involve all of the above. Even if such a figure does not exist (if Lucifer/Lilith/Hathor/Isis/Mary did not exist - it would be necessary to invent her!) - it might be helpful to view history through her eyes - thinking Lucifer's thoughts after her - without aspiration or veneration. See a related 'Lucifer' thread - elsewhere on this site. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/universal-lounge-f8/who-is-lucifer-what-are-they-doing-t841.htm?highlight=lucifer
Now I shall proceed to research your thread Brook. You provided the best information on the 'Amen Ra' thread in AV1. Thanks again! Namaste.
I am interested in male/female, human/reptile, black/white, master/slave, historical/contemporary, truth/lies, purity/corruption, sanity/insanity, and the true nature of human, grey, reptilian, and hybrid souls (are they all the same?). I am hypothesizing a central Lucifer/Goddess figure over thousands or tens of thousands of years - which could involve all of the above. Even if such a figure does not exist (if Lucifer/Lilith/Hathor/Isis/Mary did not exist - it would be necessary to invent her!) - it might be helpful to view history through her eyes - thinking Lucifer's thoughts after her - without aspiration or veneration. See a related 'Lucifer' thread - elsewhere on this site. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/universal-lounge-f8/who-is-lucifer-what-are-they-doing-t841.htm?highlight=lucifer
Now I shall proceed to research your thread Brook. You provided the best information on the 'Amen Ra' thread in AV1. Thanks again! Namaste.
Last edited by orthodoxymoron on Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:00 pm; edited 2 times in total
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
but I am more interested in WHO created them - and more importantly WHY?
I
am interested in male/female, human/reptile, black/white, master/slave,
historical/contemporary, truth/lies, purity/corruption,
sanity/insanity, and the true nature of human, grey, reptilian, and
hybrid souls (are they all the same?).
ODM! So glad you made it here.....as this is in fact where we left off on the last thread...and since that time I've had much to share from what we discovered. I'm glad you're finally here to share this with. It would not be the same without you!
Point in fact....the above statement is exactly why I started again....I've discovered much more about this...and am now in the process of painting the picture, so to speak. It's the outcome of the information that matters though...and I'm with you on that ODM!
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
Egyptian Hyroglyph
Shen Ring
The circle represents the concept of eternity - no
beginning or end - and the solar aspect is symbolized by the sun disk in
the centre of the shen sign. The hieroglyph is found in words such as
"encircle" and in its elongated form became the cartouche
that surrounded the Egyptian King's birth and throne names. As the sign
for eternity, the shen ring is frequently associated with Heh, the god
of eternity and often forms the base of the palm
branch symbolizing "years". It is also linked with the
ouroboros, the serpent and with the falcon and various
vulture
goddesses.
http://www.vivart.co.uk/hieroglyphs_s.htm
Alpha Omega symbol
So the sun disc would represent the beginning and the end......creation.
Worshiped by the gods themselves....
to be passed on and worshiped by the Pharaohs.
This "disc" worship did not only pertain to Egypt
What exactly was it about this "disc" that was to be worshiped by the likes of the gods themselves?
Could it really be the worship of the sun? or was it something in and of itself that
was of creation....eternal divinity.....life everlasting?
Shen Ring
The circle represents the concept of eternity - no
beginning or end - and the solar aspect is symbolized by the sun disk in
the centre of the shen sign. The hieroglyph is found in words such as
"encircle" and in its elongated form became the cartouche
that surrounded the Egyptian King's birth and throne names. As the sign
for eternity, the shen ring is frequently associated with Heh, the god
of eternity and often forms the base of the palm
branch symbolizing "years". It is also linked with the
ouroboros, the serpent and with the falcon and various
vulture
goddesses.
http://www.vivart.co.uk/hieroglyphs_s.htm
Alpha Omega symbol
So the sun disc would represent the beginning and the end......creation.
Worshiped by the gods themselves....
to be passed on and worshiped by the Pharaohs.
This "disc" worship did not only pertain to Egypt
What exactly was it about this "disc" that was to be worshiped by the likes of the gods themselves?
Could it really be the worship of the sun? or was it something in and of itself that
was of creation....eternal divinity.....life everlasting?
Brook- Posts : 3469
Join date : 2010-08-21
Age : 71
So what's with all the symbols? Be they religious, esoteric, Used by groups for Agenda to be flaunted right in from of our face......what is the mystery?
Let's look at another one of the Emerald Tablets....written on guess what.......Emerald Discs.
Only one section of number VIII ........
the Key of Mystery
In the form of man they amongst us,
but only to sight were they as are men.
Serpent-headed when the glamor was lifted
but appearing to man as men among men.
Crept they into the Councils,
taking forms that were like unto men.
Slaying by their arts
the chiefs of the kingdoms,
taking their form and ruling o'er man.
Only by magic could they be discovered.
Only by sound could their faces be seen.
Sought they from the Kingdom of shadows
to destroy man and rule in his place.
But, know ye, the Masters were mighty in magic,
able to lift the Veil from the face of the serpent,
able to send him back to his place.
Came they to man and taught him the secret,
the WORD that only a man can pronounce.
Swift then they lifted the Veil from the serpent
and cast him forth from the place among men.
Yet, beware, the serpent still liveth
in a place that is open at times to the world.
Unseen they walk among thee
in places where the rites have been said.
Again as time passes onward
shall they take the semblance of men.
Called may they be by the master
who knows the white or the black,
but only the white master may control
and bind them while in the flesh.
Seek not the kingdom of shadows,
for evil will surely appear.
For only the master of brightness
shall conquer the shadow of fear.
http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald.html
Let's look at another one of the Emerald Tablets....written on guess what.......Emerald Discs.
Only one section of number VIII ........
the Key of Mystery
In the form of man they amongst us,
but only to sight were they as are men.
Serpent-headed when the glamor was lifted
but appearing to man as men among men.
Crept they into the Councils,
taking forms that were like unto men.
Slaying by their arts
the chiefs of the kingdoms,
taking their form and ruling o'er man.
Only by magic could they be discovered.
Only by sound could their faces be seen.
Sought they from the Kingdom of shadows
to destroy man and rule in his place.
But, know ye, the Masters were mighty in magic,
able to lift the Veil from the face of the serpent,
able to send him back to his place.
Came they to man and taught him the secret,
the WORD that only a man can pronounce.
Swift then they lifted the Veil from the serpent
and cast him forth from the place among men.
Yet, beware, the serpent still liveth
in a place that is open at times to the world.
Unseen they walk among thee
in places where the rites have been said.
Again as time passes onward
shall they take the semblance of men.
Called may they be by the master
who knows the white or the black,
but only the white master may control
and bind them while in the flesh.
Seek not the kingdom of shadows,
for evil will surely appear.
For only the master of brightness
shall conquer the shadow of fear.
http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald.html