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    Post  Carol Sat May 02, 2015 10:42 am


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=49&v=yKORsrlN-2k
    Elon Musk Debuts the Tesla Powerwall
    Published on May 1, 2015
    Tesla Powerwall Keynote by Elon Musk "The Missing Piece"

    Tesla introduces a battery system to store solar-wind energy to enable everyone to go off-grid. The cost of the Powerwall battery system for homes is $3500 for a 10kWh unit. The system works in grid-connected, grid-interactive or off-grid scenarios. Many people will go directly off-grid, without the ugly EMF pollution producing electricity lines. For utilities, they have the bigger scalable Powerpack. One utility can use the Powerpack to create a 10 GW storage system. With 1 billion Powerpacks we can move to 100% solar power for the planet. With 2 billion Powerpacks all heating, electric transportation, power can be solar with battery storage. Clean safe cheap solar energy for all. :) All electric cars, ships, trains, airplanes, trucks. some reasons for buying your next car electric, installing solar panels and supporting 100% renewable energy in all nations:

    1. help humanity since you no longer generate carcinogenic exhaust, otherwise known as smog, which kills millions of people each year ► http://goo.gl/jDj0hI and leads to lower IQ ► http://goo.gl/alNQIk and autism ► http://goo.gl/66nqwr. Also, note that http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/2007/08/pollution-causes-40-percent-deaths-worldwide-study-finds explains that 40% of deaths due to pollution. Smog kills billions earlier than their normal time.

    2. save lives since you reduce heart attacks caused by traffic noise ► http://goo.gl/Fuhvn. Electric cars are much quieter.

    3. save humanity from oil wars that destroy the environment and kill countless civilians. Iraq war trillions could have powered all US with solar/wind ► http://goo.gl/ZqN47.

    4. you no longer have to change oil (because there is no oil to change) or spark plugs; no more smog check either; electric cars have 60% less parts, so you will go for repairs much less. Combustion engines are noisy and only 15% efficient; electric motors are 90% efficient.

    5. reduce heat and AC costs, because electric cars produce 5 times less heat than combustion engine cars per mile, reducing the heat-island effect in cities ► http://www.nature.com/srep/2015/150319/srep09213/full/srep09213.html

    6. bring the end of gas stations that poison the water wells with MTBE or other compounds leading to billions of dollars wasted in cleaning up the well water (example: $0.4 billion settlement ► http://goo.gl/eKasZD)

    7. save money as you spend 4-8 times less money on "fuel" depending what area of the globe at the current low prices of oil. If you have enough solar panels, you get free CLEAN fuel for life, since you charge at home and utilities pay you for energy you put on the grid. Likewise, Tesla Motors offers free solar ☼ charging for life ► https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgk5-eB9oTY?

    8. save money for noble purposes because electric cars are cheaper than many oil cars after the federal and state rebates: in Colorado, you can buy a Nissan Leaf for only 15, 000, while in most other states for 18-21, 000. A Smart EV costs only $12, 000 in Colorado, see http://smartusa.com. Mitsubishi i-MieV is only $13, 000 in California and $10, 000 in Colorado ► http://www.evworld.com/news.cfm?rssid=31881.

    9. Save money since it is cheaper to buy solar panels over 5-12 years than to pay the electric bill without panels - so you save MONEY and the environment - just choose the best deal, they got 12 year loans for 2-3% interest rate - plus after 12 years you get free electricity for the next 30 years or longer if panels last 50 years.

    10. Electric car batteries and solar panels are far greener than alternatives. Battery recycling for today's oil car lead batteries is happening at a 97% rate globally. It will be even better for the far safer lithium car batteries. Lithium Ion batteries are classified by the federal government as non-hazardous waste. Lithium ion batteries are made from nontoxic lithium carbonate (used in ovenware), nontoxic cobalt oxide (in pottery glaze), nontoxic graphite (in pencils), and a polymer (plastic) membrane. The most toxic components are the electrolyte and lithium cobalt oxide, neither of which are persistent in the environment and both of which are increasingly being replaced by safer compounds. Wang Chuan-Fu, CEO of BYD, demonstrated the safety of the electrolyte in their lithium ion batteries by drinking it. Zero Motorcycles founder Neal Saiki said that the Lithium Ion batteries they use are safe to eat. Solar is way better than coal, oil or natural gas which spew 100-1000 times more carcinogens in the environment per unit of energy produced, besides far more CO2. How long does a solar panel system have to operate to recover the energy used for making the panel? Energy payback for rooftop panels is 1-4 years depending on type. Assuming a life of 30 years for a panel, that means that most energy produced will be free from pollution of any sort ► http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy04osti/35489.pdf.

    11. save time, thus money, since you are allowed to use the carpool lanes to avoid traffic if you drive an electric car, in many countries, even if there is only 1 person in the car.

    12. Natural gas and Coal can be replaced with solar-wind immediately:) as a public health priority, especially since they are cheaper in many areas than fossil fuels and storage eliminates the need for sun-wind 24-7 ► https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjNKz8qXRmk. In China's worst areas, smog makes people live only 4 decades ► https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1DNjJd2YfA. Coal-fired plants lead to birth defects in China, see the 2 min video ► https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wImJC6xEoU. In all nations, including USA, people near coal-fired plants often die of cancer at 45 or so, see the 10 min video ► https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZWAQ_3yoj8. Coal pollution leads to cancer, asthma, autism (mercury), etc. Clean coal doesn't exist ► https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l0iqdfFyC0.

    13. Germany increased its solar capacity 16000 times between 1990 and 2012 ► https://plus.google.com/110265788529286523789/posts/2K5Ln8zyrqH. It's possible. In 2014, Denmark generated 39% electricity from wind ► https://plus.google.com/110265788529286523789/posts/1FraSFPpWBv. For comparison, the current renewables percentage in the US is 17%, India & China 15%, Germany 31%, Paraguay & Norway & Lesotho & Bhutan 100% (hydro), All Africa 32% (hydro), Japan 11%, Russia 15% (hydro), Mexico 26%, Indonesia & UK 19%, Canada 60% (hydro), Portugal 60% (hydro+wind), Brazil 90% (hydro), Iceland 100% (hydro+geothermal), Ghana 75% (hydro), Spain 45% (wind-solar-hydro), New Zealand 80% (hydro+geoth+wind).

    Roy Deng 1 hour ago (edited)
    +Mikhail Lukyanau Mikhail, to your point, a family of 4 would use 200KW per person per month, meaning 6.6 KW per day. If this battery stores 10KW of energy, it will last you 1.5 days. During those 1.5 days, that battery will be continuously charging from the grid or a solar panel (which can easily charge more than 10KW per day). Given that your battery will continue have access to the solar energy, you will never have to rely on the grid with one unit of the battery. Or if you rely on the grid, if electricity cost at peak times is twice as expensive, reduce your bills by charging during inexpensive times and using energy from the batteries during more expensive times.
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    Pamela Zuppo 20 hours ago
    And who else would grab onto Tesla's good start? Amazon, of course. Well, Amazon Web Services in their effort for their data centers to be 100% renewable:: AWS plans to roll out a 4.8-megawatt hour pilot of Tesla's energy storage batteries, starting with its US West (Northern California) Region. AWS has four regions stateside (including one dedicated to government applications) with half a dozen more scattered around the globe. Hamilton promised that the soft launch fits in with Amazon's long-term strategy to eventually achieve a 100 percent renewable energy tech deployment rate across its global infrastructure. http://www.zdnet.com/article/amazon-web-services-test-driving-tesla-batteries-in-data-centers/?tag=nl.e232&s_cid=e232&ttag=e232&ftag=TRE6a12a91


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    Post  bobhardee Sat May 02, 2015 5:46 pm

    5/2/2015
    The above video is without question, the most important announcement that has been made in my lifetime and probably yours.
    This is a GAME CHANGER. It is BIG beyond belief. If ever there was a reason to celebrate for joy, this announcement is it.

    Thank you Jesus. We needed this one and to think that it has finally come is m a r v e l o u s.

    Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
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    Post  mudra Sun May 03, 2015 4:25 am

    Love to see you happy Bob and dancing around with a smile on your face.

    Good news indeed cheers

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    Post  bobhardee Sun May 03, 2015 9:11 am

    Still dancing. Oh yeah.

    Now to the skeptics:
    Okay so I agree this is not the end all to end all. It's a battery pack. So what's the big deal you say?
    I see this similar to when Apple released their first Mac. It's impact was not immediate but it set the standard for others to follow. It established that computers could be user friendly. The solar industry (which has never received the total incentives that the oil industry has received for decades) has struggled to be affordable and user friendly. Over the last 20 years, it has become more affordable and now you can pick up starter packages at places like Harbor Freight. The problem is what battery and how long will it last. With the exception of the lithium battery, no new battery technology has arisen in 75 years and it has forced one to use golf cart batteries or other combinations which were not pretty. This battery pack makes it clean, easy, and usable. Other groups will now jump on that same band wagon and it will be become a foot race to who establishes the brand that people will buy. The more people buy, the more affordable solar becomes. The more affordable, the more it will be used. The more it will be used, the more we will move away from fossil fuels. Now say amen.

    Amen.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon May 04, 2015 9:03 am

    Let's see -- if I sell my house -- buy a buried 40 foot container filled with food and supplies -- and get one of these new-fangled Tesla Powerwalls -- I might be able to survive the End of the World!!


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    Post  mudra Mon May 04, 2015 10:39 am

    orthodoxymoron wrote:Let's see -- if I sell my house -- buy a buried 40 foot container filled with food and supplies -- and get one of these new-fangled Tesla Powerwalls -- I might be able to survive the End of the World!!

    When the World ends would you want to survive it Oxy ?

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    Post  Carol Mon May 04, 2015 1:10 pm

    Who would you play with afterwards Oxy? There is a lot to be said for compatible companionship. Cow


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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon May 04, 2015 4:27 pm

    I obviously wish for all to survive and thrive -- but if the gods and goddesses decreed the end of humanity -- I doubt that anyone would ultimately survive. My comment was sort of a "dark-joke". As far as companionship, I wouldn't wish to ruin anyone's life. I am not a fit companion, at this point, and probably not for the remainder of this incarnation. I have joked about hiring a sexy and smart research-assistant -- and it would require a substantial salary to properly compensate such an individual. Being paid to work with me might be somewhat satisfactory. Living with me would not be desirable to anyone. I'd probably be like Russell Crowe in A Beautiful Mind. I just thought about Bill Gates asking potential dates to reveal their IQ!! Bill supposedly called kids a "subset"!! When Melinda saw the mansion-plans, she reportedly said "I wouldn't live in THAT!!" I knew someone who lived in Medina. They lived in a very high-priced home -- and drove an old beat-up mini-pickup truck!! We even talked about aliens. I knew a very smart and sexy former Microsoft employee (who lived in a very nice waterfront home -- and drove a Mercedes). We discussed the future of computers -- and I expressed my bias toward small and wearable computing devices. She told me that Bill thought otherwise. This was in the late 1990's. I knew an attorney around that time who thought that Bill was evil. A person who had done writing for Robert Schuller told me that I reminded him of Bill Gates. As a child, I was actually working on a simple personal-computer design (using a TV) before Apple was founded. I think I've even talked to one of the original Microsoft people -- about coconut-water. Sherry Shriner says that Satan and Bill are Best-Buddies. Strange. How come I turned out to be such a reprehensible dud. People honestly avoid me -- and say nasty things behind my back. I even found an image of the demon Azazel which looks a lot like I did as a child. So much for dating. One more thing. Start watching the first video at 2:20:00 for the final part of my response. Notice that Africa was not destroyed. Egypt is in Africa. Russell Crowe reminds me of me. Ben Affleck reminds me of the Ancient Egyptian Deity. Interesting.




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    Post  B.B.Baghor Tue May 05, 2015 3:39 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote:I obviously wish for all to survive and thrive -- but if the gods and goddesses decreed the end of humanity -- I doubt that anyone would ultimately survive.

    I knew someone who lived in Medina. They lived in a very high-priced home -- and drove an old beat-up mini-pickup truck!! We even talked about aliens. I knew a very smart and sexy former Microsoft employee (who lived in a very nice waterfront home -- and drove a Mercedes). We discussed the future of computers -- and I expressed my bias toward small and wearable computing devices. She told me that Bill thought otherwise. This was in the late 1990's. I knew an attorney around that time who thought that Bill was evil. A person who had done writing for Robert Schuller told me that I reminded him of Bill Gates. As a child, I was actually working on a simple personal-computer design (using a TV) before Apple was founded. I think I've even talked to one of the original Microsoft people -- about coconut-water. Sherry Shriner says that Satan and Bill are Best-Buddies. Strange. How come I turned out to be such a reprehensible dud. People honestly avoid me -- and say nasty things behind my back. I even found an image of the demon Azazel which looks a lot like I did as a child. So much for dating.

    I think you've had and still do or can have an interesting life, ortho with your unique sense of humor. Also you've had a peculiar couple of meetings with others, after having read the above part of your post. scratch Wonder what you think goes on in that head of the young man in
    blue satin costume, the feathered hat in his hands and his Louis 14th shoes. What does his face, his eyes, reveal of his thoughts, you think, ortho?


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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue May 05, 2015 8:07 pm

    Thank-you B.B. All I know is that when I was probably six years old -- my mom and I went to the Huntington Library in San Marino, California -- and I stood transfixed in front of the original Blue Boy by Thomas Gainsborough -- for probably twenty minutes. Thomas Gainsborough was mentioned in a fifth-season Dr. Who episode -- but I can't remember which one. It might've been the one featuring Van Gough. I've repeatedly joked about imagining being a Renegade French Jesuit Organist -- and the Blue Boy seems to fit that general description. I've tried to somehow identify with that Dr. Who / Blue Boy image -- but I'm not sure why -- exactly. B.B. = Blue-Boy??!! Think about it B.B. The image exudes a "Knowing-Innocence". Different from the other kids. BTW -- there's a genuine Guttenberg Bible at the Huntington Library. There's also been a lot of activity there relative to the Dead Sea Scrolls. Robert Eisenman has had some involvement there as well. There's something cool about religion at the artistic and scholarly level. This seems to be diluted and deadened when one attends church -- week after week after week -- board-meeting after board-meeting after board-meeting. In some cases, I'd almost rather see someone leave the church -- yet continue to study and contemplate religion -- without following a guru, or joining a cult. If You Know Who runs all the religions and churches -- this might explain why the Spirit Behind the Church often seems problematic to careful-observers. But I don't know what to do. Perhaps we need You Know Who to run this Prison-Planet in Rebellion!! A genuinely Good-Guy might not be up to the nasty-task!! They might not be able to pass the Empathy-Test!! I keep wondering if there is a very-real Anna (as portrayed in the "V" series) who runs this solar system with a titanium-fist??!! What if things MUST be that way??!! I scare myself 24/7. I really do. It never ends. I really like Elizabeth Heil. How can you argue with her testimony?? My problem is with the Dark-Side of the Vatican. I heard Kerry Cassidy use that term. But once again -- what if we somehow require the Dark-Side of the Vatican to run what seems to be a Prison-Planet in Rebellion. I attended a Marie Claire Alain master-class at a United Methodist church in Glendale, California. Those were the "good old days" -- even though I didn't think so at the time.








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    Post  Mercuriel Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:09 pm

    This is a repost of an apparent article by a person named John Hawthorne Who contacted Me VIA Email and asked Me to link the article to this Thread...

    I have therefore done that. Please give the Linky a read if Ya'll would be so kind...

    The issue of the environment is as current as it has ever been. And while global warming seems to occupy the news and the public imagination more than anything else, there are other environmental concerns which still have a critical impact on our lives – concerns we can’t afford to ignore.

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:05 am

    What if the PTB have done whatever the hell they've wanted to for thousands of years, and will continue to do so for thousands of years, regardless of what We the Peons want or don't want?? If Purgatory Incorporated is a better business-model than Heaven Incorporated or Hell Incorporated, then guess what we'll be stuck with for thousands, millions, billions, or trillions of years??!! I've wasted ten years of my life reading this and that, viewing this and that, thinking about this and that, posting this and that, with only negative results. A forum-member recently predicted that the Alternative-Media would self-implode (sooner rather than later) and I predict that the Nut-Cases of the Past Ten Years will become the Mainstream of the Next Ten Years, but that the Net Predicament-Level won't change much. It will simply be different, for the continued generation of Fame, Fortune, and Power for Those Who've Signed On the Dotted-Line with You-Know-Who. Some Things Never Change.

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