Burgundia, i agree whit you. Excellent analysis. Best regards, Monique.
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WikiLeaks' Afghan War Diary, 2004-2010
monique- Posts : 101
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Burgundia, i agree whit you. Excellent analysis. Best regards, Monique.
Oliver- Posts : 133
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"State and Terrorist Conspiracies"
By Jullian Assange
(November 10, 2006)
http://cryptome.org/0002/ja-conspiracies.pdf
By Jullian Assange
(November 10, 2006)
http://cryptome.org/0002/ja-conspiracies.pdf
anomalous cowherd- Posts : 611
Join date : 2010-04-14
something strange is happening lately, and quickly too, lots of intended BS is turning out rather different, like the great thing about the food bill going awry is now they are exposed as the bought corrupt moneys grubbers they are.
Hope wiki turns out to be useful any old way you look at it.
Two extra pieces of comment; http://www.maskofzion.com/2010/10/wikileaks-is-zionist-poison.html
and am told this is worth a listen but haven' yet myself ,
http://www.theuglytruth.podbean.com/2010/11/30/the-ugly-truth-podcast-nov-30-2010/
Hope wiki turns out to be useful any old way you look at it.
Two extra pieces of comment; http://www.maskofzion.com/2010/10/wikileaks-is-zionist-poison.html
and am told this is worth a listen but haven' yet myself ,
http://www.theuglytruth.podbean.com/2010/11/30/the-ugly-truth-podcast-nov-30-2010/
dolphin- Posts : 126
Join date : 2010-05-18
anomalous cowherd wrote:something strange is happening lately, and quickly too, lots of intended BS is turning out rather different, like the great thing about the food bill going awry is now they are exposed as the bought corrupt moneys grubbers they are.
Hope wiki turns out to be useful any old way you look at it.
Two extra pieces of comment; http://www.maskofzion.com/2010/10/wikileaks-is-zionist-poison.html
and am told this is worth a listen but haven' yet myself ,
http://www.theuglytruth.podbean.com/2010/11/30/the-ugly-truth-podcast-nov-30-2010/
i have issue w theuglytruth....
1. if this as the guy being interviewed says is an israeali psy ops.... well they actually need america as america does the zionist's bidding. so it makes no sense to discredit america. it doesn't help isreal.
2. the people who believe wikileaks is not legit, come mostly from americans, who don't want their country smeared
Sparks- Posts : 26
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WikiLeaks: Clever PsyOps?
Snip:
"It's early days and much more is sure to emerge from this latest massive dissemination of raw, "secret" data, but from our point of view the Anglosphere, maybe, doesn't have much to worry about. (We could still be wrong.) Here's the narrative – the COINTELPRO promotion (if that is what is) – as we see it. Below we list the "news" as it pertains to the secret data that's been revealed and then the "result" – which is often favorable to the Anglosphere and its "war on terror" in our humble view ...
• Assange provides various mainstream publications with advance information so they can "break" their stories. RESULT: Wonderful anti-establishment credibility for failing mainstream pubs that are seen more and more as mouthpieces for the elite.
• Information bluntly characterizes foreign leaders and often in a snide or patronizing manner. RESULT: This is terrible for the US diplomatic corp? To get their opinions on world leaders out in an open forum while the foreign leaders themselves have no way to respond? If it is a disinformation campaign, it's a brilliant one.
• The US diplo corps is shown as pleading with allies for more responsibility and less support for terrorism. RESULT: A perception that the Americans seem to be fighting a valiant uphill battle. The world is encouraging terrorism and Foggy Bottom is doing its level best to protect the American people.
• The Chinese are suspected of hacking US computers. RESULT: And how exactly is this a black eye from the Anglosphere's standpoint? The Chinese are "bad guys." This is a negative for the Anglo-American axis how exactly?
• The US is using its embassies for spying. RESULT: The perception that the US is pulling out all the stops to keep its citizens safe from terrorism. Diplomacy is an ugly business, but the US is doing what it needs to do.
• Iran seems to be winning in Iraq, and US diplo and military correspondence seems to indicate that. RESULT: Evidence accumulating that it will be necessary to bomb Iran. In fact, bomb now. Before its leaders can do more damage.
• US allies like Saudi Arabia have been pleading with the US to take out Iran by any means necessary. RESULT: Evidence accumulating that even Islamic countries are alarmed by this crazy, out-of-control-nation Iran. Bomb Iran now! – Before its leaders can do more damage.
• The data being released by Assange is dangerous and his methodology is unforgivable. He is jeopardizing many lives. RESULT: The perception is increasingly clarified that the Internet is a dangerous instrument that must be brought under control so that people like Assange don't abuse it.
• Who is this man, Assange? This blond stranger? His actions are questionable to say the least, and he may be a rapist as well, according to Swedish prosecutors ... RESULT: We begin to see that he is in fact quite obviously and evidently a sexual pervert. This is the sort of riffraff that the Internet attracts. Only a pervert would seek to do this kind of damage to the national security of the US. The Internet attracts perverts of this sort, that seek to use the Internet perversely, causing great damage to national security, embarrassing hard-working bureaucrats, making it difficult for soldiers to kill more Taliban and generally threatening the lives and reputations of those who have supported America's serial wars and quasi-genocidal campaigns at great risk to themselves ...
• These revelations are simply out of control. The US intelligence agencies (all 16 of them) are seeking Assange and are constantly releasing "open letters" to Assange asking him to stop it. RESULT: Where is this massive and feared US intel operation? Where is the evidence of its fiercesome power – all the renditions, all the torture. Doesn't seem so terrible after all. Paper tiger? Pussycat. Nothing to fear here. Heck, nothing to see.
• These revelations must stop. The US government in particular has been very lax about security. But from now on the Pentagon in particular is simply not going to release much information pertaining to its operations at home and abroad. RESULT: Can those in leadership positions at the Pentagon be blamed for acting this way? Sure the Pentagon has been virtually transparent all these years, but now, well ... no more Mr. Nice Guy. The walls are going up. What we can't burn, we're gonna shred. And not a morsel is going to be provided to the press. Hey, what else can we do?
These are just some of the points that we have noticed the mainstream media making. The "results" are not being stated in so many words, but of course they don't have to be. The "data dump" speaks for itself. Of course in the days to follow, maybe we shall be proven wrong and there will be revelations that won't be "embarrassing" but that will actually prove detrimental to the US war-making effort, especially in Afghanistan. (Alternatively, there ARE such revelations, but the mainstream press is simply not covering them; this latter possibility makes certainty regarding WikiLeaks' role harder to define. We will be glad to write a followup article if we begin to believe our current analysis is incorrect, as we do believe the US has been waging unjustifiable wars, creating more enemies for the West and contributing to rising military tensions around the globe.)
Conclusion: But for now these leaks seem to: ridicule diplomats and leaders outside the US; show that the US is not an all-powerful global entity but a paper tiger that cannot even track down Assange; show that the Internet is being employed by perverts like Assange to ruin the credibility of the US and Foggy Bottom's ability to protect US citizens from harm; illustrate clearly a need to go to war with Iran; proffer evidence of China's perfidy in attacking US military/Internet facilities; make the point that US and European mainstream media organizations are "where the action is" when it comes to wholesale revelations of the US military-industrial complex. None of this is bad for the US as we see it, or Assange's intelligence handlers, if that is indeed what is going on.
Editor's Note: Regarding our use of the word "pervert" in this article. We have no idea if the charges against Assange are true. We believe him innocent until proven guilty. State monopoly justice, in which the state pays the prosecutor, the legislators, the judge and the penitentiary keepers means that it is almost impossible to get a fair trial in the West. Our use of the word was intended to show how the powers-that-be, in our view, are demonizing Assange (and the Internet) by smearing him sexually. it is an old trick and one the intelligence agencies inevitably use these days, to play on shame-based instincts, etc. We do not call Mr. Assange a pervert. Anyway, we would never use such language, and thus were putting the word in the mouths of others. It is disgusting and dehumanizing. The mainstream media, unfortunately, uses it all the time, especially in the US.
Further Note: Maybe, as a result of all these releases Assange will be proven to be a courageous and committed man. That would be our hope. Perhaps these releases will incite world opinion to turn more strongly against the US's serial wars and endless "collateral damage" (ongoing killings of women and children in various "theatres of war."). Yes, we wish fervently that the wars will end. They are manipulated wars in our opinion. The US needs to return to its founding Jeffersonian principles and reduce its 1,000 overseas military bases. The military industrial complex needs to be pared back. Will Assange actions help in this regard? That is what we are trying to determine as a publication devoted to tracking the promotion of the power elite and money power generallly. That is the reason for this article ..."
http://www.thedailybell.com/1561/WikiLeaks-Clever-PsyOps.html
Snip:
"It's early days and much more is sure to emerge from this latest massive dissemination of raw, "secret" data, but from our point of view the Anglosphere, maybe, doesn't have much to worry about. (We could still be wrong.) Here's the narrative – the COINTELPRO promotion (if that is what is) – as we see it. Below we list the "news" as it pertains to the secret data that's been revealed and then the "result" – which is often favorable to the Anglosphere and its "war on terror" in our humble view ...
• Assange provides various mainstream publications with advance information so they can "break" their stories. RESULT: Wonderful anti-establishment credibility for failing mainstream pubs that are seen more and more as mouthpieces for the elite.
• Information bluntly characterizes foreign leaders and often in a snide or patronizing manner. RESULT: This is terrible for the US diplomatic corp? To get their opinions on world leaders out in an open forum while the foreign leaders themselves have no way to respond? If it is a disinformation campaign, it's a brilliant one.
• The US diplo corps is shown as pleading with allies for more responsibility and less support for terrorism. RESULT: A perception that the Americans seem to be fighting a valiant uphill battle. The world is encouraging terrorism and Foggy Bottom is doing its level best to protect the American people.
• The Chinese are suspected of hacking US computers. RESULT: And how exactly is this a black eye from the Anglosphere's standpoint? The Chinese are "bad guys." This is a negative for the Anglo-American axis how exactly?
• The US is using its embassies for spying. RESULT: The perception that the US is pulling out all the stops to keep its citizens safe from terrorism. Diplomacy is an ugly business, but the US is doing what it needs to do.
• Iran seems to be winning in Iraq, and US diplo and military correspondence seems to indicate that. RESULT: Evidence accumulating that it will be necessary to bomb Iran. In fact, bomb now. Before its leaders can do more damage.
• US allies like Saudi Arabia have been pleading with the US to take out Iran by any means necessary. RESULT: Evidence accumulating that even Islamic countries are alarmed by this crazy, out-of-control-nation Iran. Bomb Iran now! – Before its leaders can do more damage.
• The data being released by Assange is dangerous and his methodology is unforgivable. He is jeopardizing many lives. RESULT: The perception is increasingly clarified that the Internet is a dangerous instrument that must be brought under control so that people like Assange don't abuse it.
• Who is this man, Assange? This blond stranger? His actions are questionable to say the least, and he may be a rapist as well, according to Swedish prosecutors ... RESULT: We begin to see that he is in fact quite obviously and evidently a sexual pervert. This is the sort of riffraff that the Internet attracts. Only a pervert would seek to do this kind of damage to the national security of the US. The Internet attracts perverts of this sort, that seek to use the Internet perversely, causing great damage to national security, embarrassing hard-working bureaucrats, making it difficult for soldiers to kill more Taliban and generally threatening the lives and reputations of those who have supported America's serial wars and quasi-genocidal campaigns at great risk to themselves ...
• These revelations are simply out of control. The US intelligence agencies (all 16 of them) are seeking Assange and are constantly releasing "open letters" to Assange asking him to stop it. RESULT: Where is this massive and feared US intel operation? Where is the evidence of its fiercesome power – all the renditions, all the torture. Doesn't seem so terrible after all. Paper tiger? Pussycat. Nothing to fear here. Heck, nothing to see.
• These revelations must stop. The US government in particular has been very lax about security. But from now on the Pentagon in particular is simply not going to release much information pertaining to its operations at home and abroad. RESULT: Can those in leadership positions at the Pentagon be blamed for acting this way? Sure the Pentagon has been virtually transparent all these years, but now, well ... no more Mr. Nice Guy. The walls are going up. What we can't burn, we're gonna shred. And not a morsel is going to be provided to the press. Hey, what else can we do?
These are just some of the points that we have noticed the mainstream media making. The "results" are not being stated in so many words, but of course they don't have to be. The "data dump" speaks for itself. Of course in the days to follow, maybe we shall be proven wrong and there will be revelations that won't be "embarrassing" but that will actually prove detrimental to the US war-making effort, especially in Afghanistan. (Alternatively, there ARE such revelations, but the mainstream press is simply not covering them; this latter possibility makes certainty regarding WikiLeaks' role harder to define. We will be glad to write a followup article if we begin to believe our current analysis is incorrect, as we do believe the US has been waging unjustifiable wars, creating more enemies for the West and contributing to rising military tensions around the globe.)
Conclusion: But for now these leaks seem to: ridicule diplomats and leaders outside the US; show that the US is not an all-powerful global entity but a paper tiger that cannot even track down Assange; show that the Internet is being employed by perverts like Assange to ruin the credibility of the US and Foggy Bottom's ability to protect US citizens from harm; illustrate clearly a need to go to war with Iran; proffer evidence of China's perfidy in attacking US military/Internet facilities; make the point that US and European mainstream media organizations are "where the action is" when it comes to wholesale revelations of the US military-industrial complex. None of this is bad for the US as we see it, or Assange's intelligence handlers, if that is indeed what is going on.
Editor's Note: Regarding our use of the word "pervert" in this article. We have no idea if the charges against Assange are true. We believe him innocent until proven guilty. State monopoly justice, in which the state pays the prosecutor, the legislators, the judge and the penitentiary keepers means that it is almost impossible to get a fair trial in the West. Our use of the word was intended to show how the powers-that-be, in our view, are demonizing Assange (and the Internet) by smearing him sexually. it is an old trick and one the intelligence agencies inevitably use these days, to play on shame-based instincts, etc. We do not call Mr. Assange a pervert. Anyway, we would never use such language, and thus were putting the word in the mouths of others. It is disgusting and dehumanizing. The mainstream media, unfortunately, uses it all the time, especially in the US.
Further Note: Maybe, as a result of all these releases Assange will be proven to be a courageous and committed man. That would be our hope. Perhaps these releases will incite world opinion to turn more strongly against the US's serial wars and endless "collateral damage" (ongoing killings of women and children in various "theatres of war."). Yes, we wish fervently that the wars will end. They are manipulated wars in our opinion. The US needs to return to its founding Jeffersonian principles and reduce its 1,000 overseas military bases. The military industrial complex needs to be pared back. Will Assange actions help in this regard? That is what we are trying to determine as a publication devoted to tracking the promotion of the power elite and money power generallly. That is the reason for this article ..."
http://www.thedailybell.com/1561/WikiLeaks-Clever-PsyOps.html
dolphin- Posts : 126
Join date : 2010-05-18
• Iran seems to be winning in Iraq, and US diplo and military correspondence seems to indicate that. RESULT: Evidence accumulating that it will be necessary to bomb Iran. In fact, bomb now. Before its leaders can do more damage.
• US allies like Saudi Arabia have been pleading with the US to take out Iran by any means necessary. RESULT: Evidence accumulating that even Islamic countries are alarmed by this crazy, out-of-control-nation Iran. Bomb Iran now! – Before its leaders can do more damage.
i have a problem w the "RESULT"... he/she is assuming that by releasing certain documents it leads to... which is only an interpretation. wikileaks just releases documents. and btw, you can treat these documents and interpret them in OPPOsite ways.
Iran seems to be winning in Irag, you can also INTERPRET that as it's wrong for the usa to trump up war against iran.
"US allies like saudi arabia", can also be interpreted to implicate saudi arabia wants to bomb iran.
• US allies like Saudi Arabia have been pleading with the US to take out Iran by any means necessary. RESULT: Evidence accumulating that even Islamic countries are alarmed by this crazy, out-of-control-nation Iran. Bomb Iran now! – Before its leaders can do more damage.
i have a problem w the "RESULT"... he/she is assuming that by releasing certain documents it leads to... which is only an interpretation. wikileaks just releases documents. and btw, you can treat these documents and interpret them in OPPOsite ways.
Iran seems to be winning in Irag, you can also INTERPRET that as it's wrong for the usa to trump up war against iran.
"US allies like saudi arabia", can also be interpreted to implicate saudi arabia wants to bomb iran.
Sparks- Posts : 26
Join date : 2010-06-06
Location : N. California
Dolphin, I hear you on that--yes, it is just the writer's speculation of the result or effect of the leaks.
But it does seem to me that "leaks" are usually intentional, and you gotta admit it's pretty suspicious that this guy can elude the authorities that are supposedly trying to bring him in. Kinda reminds me of Osama bin Laden.
But it does seem to me that "leaks" are usually intentional, and you gotta admit it's pretty suspicious that this guy can elude the authorities that are supposedly trying to bring him in. Kinda reminds me of Osama bin Laden.
dolphin- Posts : 126
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ2-PRlbvdo&feature=player_embedded
hey, he's seeing these documents and releasing what he feels needs to be disclosed, transparency on BOTH sides, no matter which country is doing the wrongdoing.
that's like saying that reporters who showed the casualty of war in vietnam are "communists" bec. they are making the vietnamese look good.
everyone is making a spin on their interpretation that there is some ultimate agenda. if he leaks info of usa govt is doing something unsavory, well there will also be people saying, "well why doesn't he show the isreali's?" oh then"he must be working for the mossad" how ridiculous is that?
he's "damned" if he does, and damned if he doesn't.
as far as him eluding the authorities: this guy used to hack computers... don't you think he's smarter than the usual joe? perhaps there are those who are helping him.
also there could be intervention from other beings, et... as i've read some et's will protect people from dying of cancer (when the cia try to kill them) or protect them from assassination if that person is high-profile and is important to the elevation of a society's consciousness. of course, i'm just throwing that out there as a possiblity w obviously no evidence. at least i'm hoping he is being protected from a "higher" place.
i would think more people here would be rooting for him. i seem to be the only one, not just on this forum but others. it's pretty surprising and sad i have to say.
hey, he's seeing these documents and releasing what he feels needs to be disclosed, transparency on BOTH sides, no matter which country is doing the wrongdoing.
that's like saying that reporters who showed the casualty of war in vietnam are "communists" bec. they are making the vietnamese look good.
everyone is making a spin on their interpretation that there is some ultimate agenda. if he leaks info of usa govt is doing something unsavory, well there will also be people saying, "well why doesn't he show the isreali's?" oh then"he must be working for the mossad" how ridiculous is that?
he's "damned" if he does, and damned if he doesn't.
as far as him eluding the authorities: this guy used to hack computers... don't you think he's smarter than the usual joe? perhaps there are those who are helping him.
also there could be intervention from other beings, et... as i've read some et's will protect people from dying of cancer (when the cia try to kill them) or protect them from assassination if that person is high-profile and is important to the elevation of a society's consciousness. of course, i'm just throwing that out there as a possiblity w obviously no evidence. at least i'm hoping he is being protected from a "higher" place.
i would think more people here would be rooting for him. i seem to be the only one, not just on this forum but others. it's pretty surprising and sad i have to say.
enemyofNWO- Posts : 1471
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Sparks wrote:Dolphin, I hear you on that--yes, it is just the writer's speculation of the result or effect of the leaks.
But it does seem to me that "leaks" are usually intentional, and you gotta admit it's pretty suspicious that this guy can elude the authorities that are supposedly trying to bring him in. Kinda reminds me of Osama bin Laden.
As somebody else has already said , the authorities knows where every person is at any time if they want to . I found terribly strange that since this saga started many months ago , Assange still gives interviews and attend press conferences and seem to be free to travel .The above point is very important when we consider what happened to Gary McKinnon for revealing much less information . I found also very strange Assange's attitude to the 9/11 terror attack ( he does not think it was an inside job ) and this attitude is really nuts , a person has only to see building 7 falling on his own ......
Without considering the many inaccuracies and disinfo that are being revealed every day . Did you know that a poll of the population of the Middle East revealed that 80% of the people think that the greatest threat to peace are the US and Israel ? Only a tiny number of people think so of IRAN . Also the majority of the ME population approves of Iran nuclear program. I would like to know from Wikileaks where are the diplomatic cables discussing the criminal action of Israel during the attack on the peace flotilla ? If the impression from those diplomatics leaks is that China is bad and Iran is bad or some other country is bad , well I know as a fact that the US and Israel are really bad as they are nations run by warmongers . So far we have noticed demonization of Pakistan , Iran , Cina , Russia and others , but certainly there is no demonization of of the Apartheid state . The leaders of others states appear to be bunglers , corrupt , sex addict etc . But again there is no mention of AIPAC that buys every Congressman and Senator in the US or the bungles of the current administration handling the Gulf of Mexico disaster or the idiots in charge of the diplomatic core ......
burgundia- Posts : 5520
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We are now living in the days, weeks and months that the truth will be surfacing, even if it is not intended by some...they are trying to distract us all possible ways....so many events happening within a very short period o time, difficult to keep track of everything...the time is speeding up or rather the consciousness is expanding creating the illusion of the time speeding up. The negative ones are losing the grip...
lawlessline- Posts : 699
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France are trying to Ban Wikileaks being hosted on French Servers. LOL. They make me laugh.
malletzky- Posts : 562
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Location : on the other side of the mirror
Today on Guardian: Q&A with Julian Assange:
achanth
Mr Assange,
have there ever been documents forwarded to you which deal with the topic of UFOs or extraterrestrials?
Julian Assange small
Julian Assange:
Many weirdos email us about UFOs or how they discovered that they were the anti-christ whilst talking with their ex-wife at a garden party over a pot-plant. However, as yet they have not satisfied two of our publishing rules.
1) that the documents not be self-authored;
2) that they be original.
However, it is worth noting that in yet-to-be-published parts of the cablegate archive there are indeed references to UFOs.:
More here:
Julian Assange answers your questions
The founder of WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, answers readers' questions about the release of more than 250,000 US diplomatic cables.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/dec/03/julian-assange-wikileaks
with respect
mal...
achanth
Mr Assange,
have there ever been documents forwarded to you which deal with the topic of UFOs or extraterrestrials?
Julian Assange small
Julian Assange:
Many weirdos email us about UFOs or how they discovered that they were the anti-christ whilst talking with their ex-wife at a garden party over a pot-plant. However, as yet they have not satisfied two of our publishing rules.
1) that the documents not be self-authored;
2) that they be original.
However, it is worth noting that in yet-to-be-published parts of the cablegate archive there are indeed references to UFOs.:
More here:
Julian Assange answers your questions
The founder of WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, answers readers' questions about the release of more than 250,000 US diplomatic cables.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/dec/03/julian-assange-wikileaks
with respect
mal...
Carol- Admin
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malletzky wrote:Today on Guardian: Q&A with Julian Assange:
achanth
Mr Assange,
have there ever been documents forwarded to you which deal with the topic of UFOs or extraterrestrials?
Julian Assange small
Julian Assange:
Many weirdos email us about UFOs or how they discovered that they were the anti-christ whilst talking with their ex-wife at a garden party over a pot-plant. However, as yet they have not satisfied two of our publishing rules.
1) that the documents not be self-authored;
2) that they be original.
However, it is worth noting that in yet-to-be-published parts of the cablegate archive there are indeed references to UFOs.:
More here:
Julian Assange answers your questions
The founder of WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, answers readers' questions about the release of more than 250,000 US diplomatic cables.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/dec/03/julian-assange-wikileaks
with respect
mal...
This is Paola Harris's link to an interview with eyewitnesses and objects taken from a space craft. http://www.paolaharris.com/remebaca.html
I wonder how he would respond to this given all the credible scientific evidence. That ship was occupied by the praying mantis type aliens whom the witnesses personally saw.
Just imagine. The bugs beat us out into space. Oh my.
It would be nice to have some links here to wikileaks that are still viable.
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anomalous cowherd- Posts : 611
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that's funny Carol, bugs in space
I don't have a lot of respect for JA's powers of perception , or else he must be cointelpro, but who knows?, the truther girls ( & is there another one?I only know this one? ), pretty much sums up how I feel.
and agree also with you Burgundia, lots of revelations right now, pluto in capricorn is the template. exposure exposure exposure, just glad I know a thing or two.
I don't have a lot of respect for JA's powers of perception , or else he must be cointelpro, but who knows?, the truther girls ( & is there another one?I only know this one? ), pretty much sums up how I feel.
and agree also with you Burgundia, lots of revelations right now, pluto in capricorn is the template. exposure exposure exposure, just glad I know a thing or two.
mudra- Posts : 23307
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Wikileaks plans for early 2011
WikiLeaks to Target and Bring Down Major US Financial Institution
By now, most are familiar with Wikileaks, a web site that openly releases confidential documents and videos from businesses and foreign governments (namely the USA).
Next up for the international web site operator Julian Assange, who has been condemned by many as an Enemy of the State: Assange intends to bring down a major financial institution.
If that particular institution deserves it, then we can only hope that it’s true:
he following interview excerpt was conducted by Andy Greenberg of Forbes. The interviewee is Julian Assange, founder of Wikileaks.
Love him or hate him, very few people in this world are willing to take the kind of risks Julian Assange takes by releasing confidential and secret documents from governments, military, and private industry.
Given that Assange has managed to carry through with the release of hundreds of thousands of pages of documents on more than one occasion, we suspect that there are several executives at financial institutions getting ready for the XXXX to seriously hit the fan come first quarter 2011.
Maybe, just maybe, some of those responsible for ripping off the American people will soon be held to account.
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/wikileaks-to-target-and-bring-down-major-us-financial-institution_11292010
Love Always
mudra
WikiLeaks to Target and Bring Down Major US Financial Institution
By now, most are familiar with Wikileaks, a web site that openly releases confidential documents and videos from businesses and foreign governments (namely the USA).
Next up for the international web site operator Julian Assange, who has been condemned by many as an Enemy of the State: Assange intends to bring down a major financial institution.
If that particular institution deserves it, then we can only hope that it’s true:
he following interview excerpt was conducted by Andy Greenberg of Forbes. The interviewee is Julian Assange, founder of Wikileaks.
You’ve been focused on the U.S. military mostly in the last year. Does that mean you have private sector-focused leaks in the works?
Yes. If you think about it, we have a publishing pipeline that’s increasing linearly, and an exponential number of leaks, so we’re in a position where we have to prioritize our resources so that the biggest impact stuff gets released first.
So do you have very high impact corporate stuff to release then?
Yes, but maybe not as high impact…I mean, it could take down a bank or two.
That sounds like high impact.
But not as big an impact as the history of a whole war. But it depends on how you measure these things.
These megaleaks, as you call them that, we haven’t seen any of those from the private sector.
No, not at the same scale for the military.
Will we?
Yes. We have one related to a bank coming up, that’s a megaleak. It’s not as big a scale as the Iraq material, but it’s either tens or hundreds of thousands of documents depending on how you define it.
Is it a U.S. bank?
Yes, it’s a U.S. bank.
One that still exists?
Yes, a big U.S. bank.
The biggest U.S. bank?
No comment.
When will it happen?
Early next year. I won’t say more.
What do you want to be the result of this release?
[Pauses] I’m not sure.
It will give a true and representative insight into how banks behave at the executive level in a way that will stimulate investigations and reforms, I presume.
Usually when you get leaks at this level, it’s about one particular case or one particular violation. For this, there’s only one similar example. It’s like the Enron emails. Why were these so valuable? When Enron collapsed, through court processes, thousands and thousands of emails came out that were internal, and it provided a window into how the whole company was managed. It was all the little decisions that supported the flagrant violations.
This will be like that. Yes, there will be some flagrant violations, unethical practices that will be revealed, but it will also be all the supporting decision-making structures and the internal executive ethos that cames out, and that’s tremendously valuable. Like the Iraq War Logs, yes there were mass casualty incidents that were very newsworthy, but the great value is seeing the full spectrum of the war.
You could call it the ecosystem of corruption. But it’s also all the regular decision making that turns a blind eye to and supports unethical practices: the oversight that’s not done, the priorities of executives, how they think they’re fulfilling their own self-interest. The way they talk about it.
full interview transcript here : http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
Love him or hate him, very few people in this world are willing to take the kind of risks Julian Assange takes by releasing confidential and secret documents from governments, military, and private industry.
Given that Assange has managed to carry through with the release of hundreds of thousands of pages of documents on more than one occasion, we suspect that there are several executives at financial institutions getting ready for the XXXX to seriously hit the fan come first quarter 2011.
Maybe, just maybe, some of those responsible for ripping off the American people will soon be held to account.
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/wikileaks-to-target-and-bring-down-major-us-financial-institution_11292010
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Love him or hate him, very few people in this world are willing to take the kind of risks Julian Assange takes by releasing confidential and secret documents from governments, military, and private industry.
Given that Assange has managed to carry through with the release of hundreds of thousands of pages of documents on more than one occasion, we suspect that there are several executives at financial institutions getting ready for the XXXX to seriously hit the fan come first quarter 2011.
Maybe, just maybe, some of those responsible for ripping off the American people will soon be held to account.
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/wikileaks-to-target-and-bring-down-major-us-financial-institution_11292010
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mudra, so well said. i just wish he didn't let on about the bank documents and just let them out w out forwarning. i'm sure this is one of the main reasons for going after him. he's been doing this for 4 yrs. and now all of the sudden w the banking documents about to be released, they're wanting his head on a platter.
... hope he's able to release these before they catch him!
Given that Assange has managed to carry through with the release of hundreds of thousands of pages of documents on more than one occasion, we suspect that there are several executives at financial institutions getting ready for the XXXX to seriously hit the fan come first quarter 2011.
Maybe, just maybe, some of those responsible for ripping off the American people will soon be held to account.
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/wikileaks-to-target-and-bring-down-major-us-financial-institution_11292010
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mudra, so well said. i just wish he didn't let on about the bank documents and just let them out w out forwarning. i'm sure this is one of the main reasons for going after him. he's been doing this for 4 yrs. and now all of the sudden w the banking documents about to be released, they're wanting his head on a platter.
... hope he's able to release these before they catch him!
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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread636006/pg1
Soros sets up a website called wikileaks
to obtain information on ALL governments,
not just the US.
Unsuspecting whistleblowers go to the
site and graciously give up their
data to an unknown entity.
That info is then used as blackmail
against enemies of Soros, such as
competing partners, Banks not aligned
with the Soros line, Corporations,
Politicians, Governments of every make
and model. The agenda is NOT money.
It is power and control. If you have
the power to control everyone, then
you can rule the world. Soros doesn't want
your money, he wants your soul.
So Soros can't get the PR campaign going
to get his blackmail evidence without a
public face that everybody trusts. In comes
a wandering genuis by the name of Julian Assange
who has a baby face that everybody will
love and trust. Julian becomes the public role
model of wikileaks to gain the public trust.
More blackmail data is shared and Soros
increases his ability to mainipulate
world governments by blackmailing them
into submission.
Soros sets up a website called wikileaks
to obtain information on ALL governments,
not just the US.
Unsuspecting whistleblowers go to the
site and graciously give up their
data to an unknown entity.
That info is then used as blackmail
against enemies of Soros, such as
competing partners, Banks not aligned
with the Soros line, Corporations,
Politicians, Governments of every make
and model. The agenda is NOT money.
It is power and control. If you have
the power to control everyone, then
you can rule the world. Soros doesn't want
your money, he wants your soul.
So Soros can't get the PR campaign going
to get his blackmail evidence without a
public face that everybody trusts. In comes
a wandering genuis by the name of Julian Assange
who has a baby face that everybody will
love and trust. Julian becomes the public role
model of wikileaks to gain the public trust.
More blackmail data is shared and Soros
increases his ability to mainipulate
world governments by blackmailing them
into submission.
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Lieberman Introduces Anti-WikiLeaks Legislation
December 3, 2010
Senator Joseph Lieberman and other lawmakers on Thursday introduced legislation that would make it a federal crime for anyone to publish the name of a U.S. intelligence source, in a direct swipe at the secret-spilling website WikiLeaks.
“The recent dissemination by Wikileaks of thousands of State Department cables and other documents is just the latest example of how our national security interests, the interests of our allies, and the safety of government employees and countless other individuals are jeopardized by the illegal release of classified and sensitive information,” said Lieberman in a written statement.
“This legislation will help hold people criminally accountable who endanger these sources of information that are vital to protecting our national security interests,” he continued.
The so-called SHIELD Act (Securing Human Intelligence and Enforcing Lawful Dissemination) would amend a section of the Espionage Act that already forbids publishing classified information on U.S. cryptographic secrets or overseas communications intelligence — i.e., wiretapping. The bill would extend that prohibition to information on HUMINT, human intelligence, making it a crime to publish information “concerning the identity of a classified source or informant of an element of the intelligence community of the United States,” or “concerning the human intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government” if such publication is prejudicial to U.S. interests.
read on: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/shield/
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December 3, 2010
Senator Joseph Lieberman and other lawmakers on Thursday introduced legislation that would make it a federal crime for anyone to publish the name of a U.S. intelligence source, in a direct swipe at the secret-spilling website WikiLeaks.
“The recent dissemination by Wikileaks of thousands of State Department cables and other documents is just the latest example of how our national security interests, the interests of our allies, and the safety of government employees and countless other individuals are jeopardized by the illegal release of classified and sensitive information,” said Lieberman in a written statement.
“This legislation will help hold people criminally accountable who endanger these sources of information that are vital to protecting our national security interests,” he continued.
The so-called SHIELD Act (Securing Human Intelligence and Enforcing Lawful Dissemination) would amend a section of the Espionage Act that already forbids publishing classified information on U.S. cryptographic secrets or overseas communications intelligence — i.e., wiretapping. The bill would extend that prohibition to information on HUMINT, human intelligence, making it a crime to publish information “concerning the identity of a classified source or informant of an element of the intelligence community of the United States,” or “concerning the human intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government” if such publication is prejudicial to U.S. interests.
read on: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/shield/
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i've been reading more posts and info from other forums and one on ats. yes the sorous thread. looks all very dubious and have already seen that video burgundia just posted.
doesn't look like JA is the knight in shining armor nor robin hood.
conspiracy w in a conspiracy.
they seem to use the same method, problem- reaction- solution
doesn't look like JA is the knight in shining armor nor robin hood.
conspiracy w in a conspiracy.
they seem to use the same method, problem- reaction- solution
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No apparently wikileaks is on the verge of bankrupcy as PayPal refused to transfer all donations to Wikileaks account. what is really going on here???
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burgundia wrote:No apparently wikileaks is on the verge of bankrupcy as PayPal refused to transfer all donations to Wikileaks account. what is really going on here???
yes I noticed this .
JA certainly is scaring a few people around .
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burgundia wrote:No apparently wikileaks is on the verge of bankrupcy as PayPal refused to transfer all donations to Wikileaks account. what is really going on here???
But that won't affect their financial situaion much...as it is obvious now that a large donation company from Germany finance(d) Wikileaks with aprox. 1 mio euro p.Year. They even made a statement on their website now regarding this, which I find quite amusement.
http://www.wauland.de/english.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqtIafdoH_g&feature=player_embedded
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In a shockingly flippant comment to a Canadian television news anchor Evan Solomon of the CBC News Network on live TV, Tom Flanagan, a senior advisor and strategist to the Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper today called for the assassination of Wikileaks director Julian Assange . It is believed to be the first ever televised "fatwa" since the edict by the Iranian leadership of the late Ayatollah Khomeini against British writer Salman Rushdie in February 1989. Amazingly, although news anchor Solomon afforded Flanagan the opportunity to retract his statement, Flanagan balked at doing so and instead reiterated that U.S. President should put out a "contract" on Assange or use "a drone" and that he would not be unhappy if Assange "disappeared." Flanagan who is a trusted member of PM Harper's inner circle of Tory strategists joins Sarah Palin in calling for the death of the Wikileaks director as retribution for the website's release of confidential diplomatic and intelligence "chatter" this week.
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