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    Post  lawlessline Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:56 am

    I have not seen anything yet that say the cap has not worked. Are we second guessing that it hasn't work? The live shots show the second valve pipe chucking stuff out but apparantly that has to happen before they shut it off and move onto the third valve, where they can cap it totally.

    Does anyone have any statements from offical sources saying the thing hasn't worked??

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    Post  mudra Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:47 am

    BP Macondo well: More evidence of damage: BP stops drilling relief wells, delays pressure test
    Maryann Tobin July 14,


    http://www.examiner.com/x-33986-Political-Spin-Examiner~y2010m7d14-BP-Macondo-well-More-evidence-of-damage-BP-stops-drilling-relief-wells-delays-pressure-test

    Back in June, Florida Senator Bill Nelson told NBC’s Andrea Mitchell he had gotten reports that the Macondo well BP has been trying to plug for months was damaged and leaking through the sea floor. By all accounts, Nelson’s statement was of major significance.

    “If Senator Nelson is correct about the breach of fundamental well integrity, the game is close to over for the Gulf of Mexico,” Firedog lake reported. “In fact, I have confirmed with Senator Nelson’s office that they are fully aware of the breaking news and significance of what the Senator said to Andrea Mitchell.”

    After BP announced a delay in performing a pressure test on the well, now under their newest containment cap, a comment on Nola.com validates Nelson's statement.

    “ I think they started to see the pressure drop meaning the well has given way below the surface. Reports are that oil and gas are escaping from fissures in the sea floor many miles away from the damaged riser....NOT GOOD...I think BP is holding back info again so we just don't know how bad this really is. “

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    Post  mudra Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:23 pm

    That is the letter from Thad Allen to BP giving them 24hours to comply with his demands dated 8th july 2010

    http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BP_letter_8_July.pdf

    This is the official response by BP to Thad Allen — both the demand letter and the response are now public:


    http://media.mcclatchydc.com/smedia/2010/07/09/19/dudley.source.prod_affiliate.91.pdf

    Transcript of Thad Allen's Friday briefing on the BP oil leak

    McClatchy Newspapers

    This is the transcript of National Incident Commander Thad Allen's briefing on the Deepwater Horizon BP oil catastrophe for Friday, July 9. The transcript was provided by the Deepwater Horizon Incident Joint Information Center. Allen briefed from New Orleans.

    Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/07/09/v-fullstory/1723440/transcript-of-thad-allens-friday.html#ixzz0tlyHIp2f

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    Post  mudra Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:32 pm

    Tar mats ‘size of school buses’
    Long Beach, Hancock County beaches hit by most oil ever
    By GEOFF PENDER, MELISSA SCALLAN and DONNA MELTON - Sun Herald


    Thursday, Jul. 08, 2010

    LONG BEACH — What appeared to be the largest amount of oily tar to hit the Mississippi Coast at one time was washing in from west of the Long Beach Harbor into the edge of Pass Christian late Wednesday night.

    Crews also were removing large amounts of tar balls and patties that washed ashore Wednesday morning on a stretch of Hancock County beach from Nicholson Avenue to Lakeshore Drive.

    Harrison County Emergency Manager Rupert Lacy said the material in Harrison County was “tar mats and patties … kind of the consistency of liver.” It was coming in over a 5- to 6-mile stretch from about a mile west of the harbor to the eastern edge of Pass Christian. He said the material was in large mats, floating near the bottom, and breaking up and washing onto the beach in smaller pieces.

    Read more: http://www.sunherald.com/2010/07/07/2315960/tar-mats-size-of-school-buses.html#ixzz0tm0M1Uoa


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    Post  mudra Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:47 pm

    lawlessline wrote:I have not seen anything yet that say the cap has not worked. Are we second guessing that it hasn't work? The live shots show the second valve pipe chucking stuff out but apparantly that has to happen before they shut it off and move onto the third valve, where they can cap it totally.

    Does anyone have any statements from offical sources saying the thing hasn't worked??


    This is where we are at Tom .. When the tests are over and found positive than we will know the thing worked .

    CAP TESTING BEGINS
    By TOM BREEN and HARRY R. WEBER - Associated Press

    Wednesday, Jul. 14, 2010

    NEW ORLEANS — BP allayed last-minute government fears of making the disaster worse and began testing the new, tighter-fitting cap Wednesday that could finally choke off the oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico.

    Retired Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the Obama administration’s point man on the disaster, said the government gave the go-ahead after carefully reviewing the risks.

    “What we didn’t want to do is compound that problem by making an irreversible mistake,” he said at the end of a 24-hour roller-coaster of hopes raised, dashed and raised again along the Gulf Coast.

    The cap — a 75-ton metal stack of pipes and valves — was lowered onto the well Monday in hopes of either bottling up the oil inside the well machinery, or capturing it and funneling it to the surface. But before BP could test the equipment the government intervened because of second thoughts about whether the buildup of pressure from the gushing oil could rupture the walls of the well and make the leak worse.

    “We sat long and hard about delaying the tests,” Allen said. He said the pause was necessary in the interest of the public, the environment and safety, and that officials were convinced the test could go forward.

    Read more: http://www.sunherald.com/2010/07/14/2332372/cap-testing-begins.html#ixzz0tm46Ik59

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    Post  mudra Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:05 pm

    Are We to Believe Gulf Doomsday Talk?

    by Rick Ackerman on June 21, 201

    http://www.rickackerman.com/2010/06/are-we-to-believe-gulf-doomsday-talk/

    Will the oil gusher in the Gulf eventually destroy all marine life, as oilman Matthew Simmons asserts, or will the disaster instead be contained once BP’s relief well comes online sometime in July or August? Simmons, a peak-oil proponent and no stranger to controversy, has been warning that a second well cannot alleviate the problem because most of the oil, now estimated to flow at around 60,000 barrels per day, is coming not from the well bore but from innumerable ruptures in the sea bed around the Deepwater Horizon site. Because of this, he says, there are only two possible options: allowing the well to run dry — a process that would take 30 years and destroy the Gulf of Mexico and the ocean; or nuking the site, melting the fissured seabed into a glassy cap.

    We have been attempting to verify his claims using our own sources. One of them is Dave Patterson, a petroleum reservoir and operations engineer who works for Moyes Co., a Houston-based energy consulting firm with no direct involvement in the BP project. In contrast to Simmons’ end-of-the-world talk, Patterson says he has “absolute confidence” that the relief well will work. Based on everything he has read, seen and heard, Patterson, a Moyes director, says there’s little evidence to support Simmons’ worst-case scenario. “Yes, it is a delicate operation, “ he notes. “Hitting a target 17 inches wide at 18,000 feet is always going to be difficult. But the people who are doing it have a 100% track record,” and there are two wells being drilled for redundancy. Patterson says that all the evidence he’s seen indicates that the main leakage is straight up the well-head and not through fissures. And although capping the gusher posed a risk of rupturing the casing and losing control of the shutdown, that’s why BP wasn’t more aggressive about it to begin with, he explained. Patterson also noted that the increased flow over time is attributable, not to a widening network of fissures, as Simmons has claimed, but to the severing of a bent “riser” pipe that had restricted output.

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    Post  burgundia Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:26 pm

    BP: the oil spill has been stopped...
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    Post  mudra Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:10 pm

    July 15, 2010

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_07/024746.php

    OIL WELL SEALED (FOR NOW).... As of an hour ago, the wellhead gushing oil since the Deepwater Horizon explosion was fully contained.

    BP said Thursday that it has stopped oil from leaking out of its blown-out well in the Gulf of Mexico. The gusher has been throttled for the first time since the April 20 blowout on the drilling rig Deepwater Horizon.

    Kent Wells, BP's senior vice president of exploration and production, told reporters that a new capping mechanism shut off the flow of crude from the Macondo well at 3:25 p.m. EDT. He made the announcement after engineers gradually shut off valves to test the pressure. The engineers are monitoring the pressure to see whether the new cap and the well bore hold.

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    Post  mudra Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:34 pm

    New seismic survey still to be performed

    BP stops Gulf oil flow for first time since April
    15 july 2010

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usoilenvironmentpollution

    ...after 48 hours the engineers would open up the system again and begin capturing the oil through two surface vessels hooked up to the ruptured pipe and carry out a new seismic survey.

    "That will tell us, as a result of that testing at high pressure for 48 hours, was there a change in the wellbore, did we have oil leak into the formation and form a pocket that could be a precursor for a breach in the ocean floor, is there methane gas coming up, which could be a precursor as well," Allen said.

    The two container vessels, the Q4000 and the Helix Producer, at the site capturing the spilling crude from two lines connected to the blow-out preventer device below the capping stack, were shut down before the test started.

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    Post  lawlessline Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:46 pm

    you caan see the seismic testing on the live feed http://spillcam.110mb.com/

    tends to give a good multiview thing.

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    Post  Carol Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:03 pm


    This is from GLP. Has it been verified?


    ALERT!!! GULF STREAM SHUTTING DOWN BECAUSE OF OIL SPILL!!! AND IT'S HAPPENING FAST!!

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    For the first time a direct evidence with data processed by CCAR (Colorado Center for Astrodynamics Research) and images from
    satellite (Jason, Topex/Poseidon, GeosatFollow-On, ERS-2, Envisat) ) of the rapid breaking of The Gulf Stream!

    In
    a recent research called "RISK OF GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE BY BP OIL
    SPILL" from Italian scientists of Frascati National Laboratories (LNF)
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    National Institute of Nuclear Physics (INFN) - AGI (Geophisical Italian
    Association) and CNR (National Council of Research) it show the
    evidence of a rapid Breaking of the Gulf Stream.

    As
    well as in surface, the satellite images have shown "serpents" of oil
    under the oceanic depths, whit beyond 15 Km length and 5 Km wide ,
    that
    they have generated a physic-chemical pressure on the flow of the
    currents with the consequent one to generate itself of a gigantic
    vortex,
    part of a Loop Current by now broken, as well with direct catastrophic
    and immediate consequence for the flora, the fauna and the
    populations
    of the Gulf of Mexico damaged in the health, for Fall-out of chemical
    dispersing toxics, like Corexit 9527 and other poisons.

    As
    of today the situation has deteriorated up to the point in which the
    eddy has detached itself completely from the main stream therefore
    destroying completely the Loop Current.

    www.associazionegeofisica.it




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    Post  newel Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:29 pm

    Oil leak is blackmail? "As explained for months...Congress passes financial BS..Leak suddenly disappears"

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/15/AR2010071500464.html

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE66E0MK20100716

    http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=179818.msg1064991

    Interesting. I can see that.
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    Post  anomalous cowherd Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:37 am

    I don't know carol on the GLP dead gulf thread, Ive been trying to figure out whether this is legitimate info. That site has the most brilliant people who can surface at times but also the most dazzling spin and downright deception, hard to stay in the middle and wait to see what emerges as credible. It looked like that data was collected sometime rather earlier on in this mess , making me think this is panic inducing spin. In any case, the situation IS dire just as it is , so who knows?
    I found it interesting thet Whitley Streiber was the writer of "The Day After Tomorrow". Which is about the sudden shift after the Gulf stream being diverted or something, havent seen the film though. I think WS lies, or at least embelishes , about some of his stuff and yet I know a contactee who says he has information he could not have without genuine experiences of his own. I dont take anybody per se as an authority, not even some random poster on GLP Gulf Oil Platform Explosion and Spill - Page 3 Icon_albino mini lol.

    This is of course one scenario that could happen and there is some oceanographic science to back this up , but we just don't know ,do we? I really don't understand why there seem to be so little protest about ANY of it in the states, people just don't seem to understand this effects EVERYONE on the planet, and will become increasingly difficult to turn a blind mind to.

    Meanwhile Carol, you may want to take a look at this on GLP regarding Camelot, Bill and what seems like A Nueman, a post saying it is from carol and family in hawaii, it all looks a bit odd and threatening , I somehow don't think you would write a capslock post, but who knows? http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1002300/pg8
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    Post  Floyd Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:20 am

    Deacon like 90% of the people B and K get involved with is a nut job. The rest of that 90 are deluded or agents. Its chronic.
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    Post  anomalous cowherd Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:46 am

    OH I do love the word chronic! The thing is, if there wasn't some truth to what those camelot peeps said it would never have had the success it did. So lets see, in my mind the really SUPER bs guys were, and not in order of ridiculousness, Dan Rubisch, Dr Dill Beagle, Wilcock ,the crotch grabbing Obamatard /egotard, and oh my people prolly STILL love him, also I heard on one interview Hoagland say thank god HAARP was out to help us, what's up with that???

    I never watched arthur weirdo. Miriam Bluestar looked deluded to me, but probably sincere enough. I hear Bob Dean is a fine actor and his wife is a business woman, I dunno.

    So, I liked John Lear, and............um...... Aaron mc C is doing some good work in the truth collective he has started. Actions speak, and he has no money, funny how that goes...
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    Post  spiritwarrior Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:59 am

    metaw3 wrote:Oil leak is blackmail? "As explained for months...Congress passes financial BS..Leak suddenly disappears"

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/15/AR2010071500464.html

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE66E0MK20100716

    http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=179818.msg1064991

    Interesting. I can see that.

    me too. makes the most sense so far imo
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    Post  mudra Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:00 am

    "Carol"
    This is from GLP. Has it been verified?


    ALERT!!! GULF STREAM SHUTTING DOWN BECAUSE OF OIL SPILL!!! AND IT'S HAPPENING FAST!!


    Here is the original Italian site " Associazione Geofisica Italiana "

    http://www.associazionegeofisica.it/Home.html

    The pdf re BP's Oil spill and how it may have affected the gulf stream is to be found on this page on their site :

    http://www.associazionegeofisica.it/Notiziario.html

    It seems completely genuine to me as the site is the official one.

    Scroll down the page you 'll find it just under : AGI- NEWS

    When you type the URL in Google you can click on the link next to the title to have the site translated in English.

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    Post  spiritwarrior Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:02 am

    anomalous cowherd wrote:

    Meanwhile Carol, you may want to take a look at this on GLP regarding Camelot, Bill and what seems like A Nueman, a post saying it is from carol and family in hawaii, it all looks a bit odd and threatening , I somehow don't think you would write a capslock post, but who knows? http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1002300/pg8

    i've tried to get into glp but was refused , SAYING MY IP HAS BEEN BANNED . FOR STALKING.
    only been in it twice. Gulf Oil Platform Explosion and Spill - Page 3 775723 Gulf Oil Platform Explosion and Spill - Page 3 Icon_scratch Gulf Oil Platform Explosion and Spill - Page 3 Lol

    will try later
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    Post  Carol Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:12 am

    Thanks AC. I didn't write that post, It appears that Art Neumann did and he also took photos, made videos and recorded us in our home while staying with us without our knowledge and permission. I never made any personal agreement with him and given his outrageous behavior (he got into a huge fight with my husband who kicked him out of our home) he has no rights at all when it comes to our family. My husband did mention that Art wanted an agreement from us never to mention his name anywhere but he didn't agree to that either. I suspect Art thinks thinks someone else is me, posting info on him, yet as we all know I only go by my real name and don't use an avatar name. We are not afraid of him or his threats. He is a real nut case and very possibly possessed. Art is very paranoid and seems to think his threats towards Bill and myself will stop us from exposing the truth about his behavior. He stiffed the doctor he saw while staying with us and I do have his address and personal info which can easily be posted on the net if he gets nasty.


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    Post  spiritwarrior Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:23 am

    mundra, all i can get from AGE NEWS is quote [Your search - ALERT!!! GULF STREAM SHUTTING DOWN BECAUSE OF OIL
    SPILL!!! AND IT'S ...
    - did not match any documents.]

    do you trust this report????
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    Post  spiritwarrior Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:31 am

    chrome 2010-07-16
    06-19-18-16_mpeg2video.mpg


    BP Live feeds for 07/16/10 6:19am
    EST. #2
    <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="https://www.youtube.com/v/y4w3CEZfJBE&hl=en_GB&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="https://www.youtube.com/v/y4w3CEZfJBE&hl=en_GB&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

    doesn't seem to have stopped

    http://www.wkrg.com/gulf_oil_spill/spill_cam/watch-the-oil-leak-live/888518/
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    Post  spiritwarrior Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:56 am

    http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:45685.asx?bkup=49182

    anyone any idea of what this white light is?
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    Post  mudra Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:22 am

    spiritwarrior wrote:mundra, all i can get from AGE NEWS is quote [Your search - ALERT!!! GULF STREAM SHUTTING DOWN BECAUSE OF OIL
    SPILL!!! AND IT'S ...
    - did not match any documents.]

    do you trust this report????

    Hello spiritwarrior,

    All I can say is that the link to the pdf as posted by Carol above (1053) www.associazionegeofisica.it : and that appears on God Like Production forum (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1133522/pg1) goes back to an official Italian geophysics site where that pdf appears as well:
    http://www.associazionegeofisica.it/Notiziario.html.

    I would then conclude that the pdf is'nt a New age made up one.

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    Post  spiritwarrior Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:35 am

    thanks MUNDRA,

    have you seen the cams yet? what do you think? esp the one with what looks like "earth guts"

    blessings
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