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    Post  JesterTerrestrial Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:25 pm

    MUST SEE!!! UFO MOTHERSHIP Sighting over Cape Coral Florida

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    Do you think this is a 4D light shadow ET Star Cruiser showing up in the dimensional blend? Posted as is! Verify it for yourself.

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    Post  Micjer Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:50 am

    Linky doesn't work

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    Post  Carol Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:59 am

    It worked for me.

    Try this.

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    What is life?
    It is the flash of a firefly in the night, the breath of a buffalo in the wintertime. It is the little shadow which runs across the grass and loses itself in the sunset.

    With deepest respect ~ Aloha & Mahalo, Carol

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    Post  Micjer Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:45 pm

    Seems to be well below cloud layer. Giant chineese lantern? No comments to go by. Had to be there to know again.

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    Post  Raven Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:55 pm

    Shine Gaia Serpentina Shine and Share your Story of Becoming
    Mother of the Father Creator as his Creation

    The title of the video above and representative for Nabs disinformation and deception is very true, but the surrounding descriptions are disinformation to varying degrees and will cause many personal tragedies following and when the 'personal expectation' of this event, 'closing all cycles of cycles' do not become happenstance as imagined or imaged by the expecteurs and 'new world dreamers'.

    Anyone reading this post, shall become privy to what this 'Earth' becoming a Star shall entail.

    Many of the descriptions of the Nabs presenters above are true in an encompassing sense.

    The earth will become a star, but this star will become a dark star not shining in a light created by the nuclear physics within stellar evolution, but the New Earth aka Gaia Serpentina will Shine a Dark Light into the universe.

    This dark light is a data stream which has accumulated in the 4-dimensional equivalent of the entire planetary structure.

    In 3-dimensional space and so in 4-dimensional spacetime, the Earth has a mass of so 6 trillion trillion kg and a volume of a spheroid say 40,000 km in circumference with a radius of so 6,500 km.

    In 4-dimensional space and so in 5-dimensional spacetime, this mass remains at it is and so encompasses all lifeforms, structures, objects and the history of the consciousness evolution of this planet since its birth so 4.7 billion years ago.

    But the volume of this planet as a data processor will 'shrink' to the size of a golfball so 3 centimetres across. This is technically called a 'Planetary Black Hole' in 4D embedded in its 3-dimensional lower dimensional self-expression or manifestation. The so called 'energy belt' or photon belt as seen in the diagram below reprents the inversion age of planet Earth much older than its geophysical age of 4.7 billion years and coincides with the Birth of the Universe as a 'superorb' so 14.4 billion years before the cosmic orb astrophysically known as the planet earth was born as a densification of the stellar nebula as the precursor of the local star system.

    I shall detail this 'inversion earth' as old as the creation itself and in more technical nomenclature later on in this countdown message from the Creator Monad cosmically entwined with his creation monad as the Dyad of ALL Existence of the I Am That Am I. This message does however represent a kind of 'last chance' or opportunity for the 'would be first harvest' and pioneers of the 'New World' with its new jurisdiction of the 'Old Universe' redefined and recreated. No more 'warnings' or decoding semantics of the encrypted prophetic timelines and codes shall be given, as the birthing process will engage the executive function from its legislative mode.

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    There are a multitude of videos and websites published, which tell of a similar story line as of what this 2012 ascension date is all about.

    All of them have tuned into a real and very natural 'closing of an old time' and the 'beginning of a new time' in a particular context of continuity and contingency engaging many so called 'Et and ascension scenarios'.

    About 52,000 years ago, the mental evolution of a particular cosmic species, namely that of the Homo Sapiens or 'Wisdom Keepers' began.

    This mental evolution followed a very long timeline of evolving a suitable bodyform or morphology for this 'destined wisdom keeper genus' embedded in a subspace of the cosmic superspace and which began at the halfway nexus timemarker so 2,200 million years ago on the planet then known by the universal sentiences as Gaea, the focus of the Cosmic Mother of Baab for the Cosmic Father Abba.

    Baab is the 'Gate' or 'Bridge' for the superuniverse to share information and intercourses of divers kinds with the fractal subuniverse.

    But this is an interwoven and engaging story and shall be shared here on this forum for the one and only physicalizable reality as authorized by the Laws of Nature and the creator-creation monad and under the auspices and jurisprudence of the World Logos aka the 'Word of GodDog or AbbaBaab' themselves.

    So anyone reading this data transmission and finding it relevant to hisher own idea of what this is all about, is free to share and copy this information as shehe finds appropriate.

    There will be no copyright or restrictions, because any attempt to 'edit' or 'change this information' in self-relativity will encounter the Natural Cosmic Lawfulness of this data and from December 21st, 2012 at 11:53UCT; the legislative validity of this information will become subject to the executive function of the supercosmos and the jurisprudence of the creators, authors, producers and directors of this data stream code named the 'Freedom of Thuban' banning the falseness of old mistranslations of proper natural lawfulness enforcable by and in the definitions of the Laws of the Cosmic Nature.

    Addendum about Starplanet Gaia Serpentina

    [2:21:58 PM- Tuesday, January 22nd, 2013 - 11UCT]

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    [2:22:06 PM] julissa279p: Tony did i ever show you this picture?
    [2:23:17 PM] Wyzard97: No
    [2:23:35 PM] Wyzard97: Did you draw this?
    [2:23:36 PM] julissa279p: hmm
    [2:23:41 PM] julissa279p:I jut found it in my phone
    [2:23:43 PM] julissa279p: no
    [2:23:45 PM] julissa279p: Daniel did
    [2:23:51 PM] Wyzard97: Oh I see
    [2:23:58 PM] julissa279p: from a dream he had
    [2:24:09 PM] julissa279p: i asked him to draw what he saw
    [2:24:13 PM] Wyzard97: It is the vesica of course as the vagina and it has a moebius strip besides it
    [2:24:34 PM] Wyzard97: It is a merkabah as related to the starships
    [2:24:48 PM] Wyzard97: its engine or 'warpdrive' is associated
    [2:25:17 PM] Wyzard97: Looks like a diamond shape
    [2:25:22 PM] julissa279p: that black circle on the right is supposed to be the Sun i think
    [2:25:33 PM] Wyzard97: which is rhombus geometry
    [2:25:46 PM] julissa279p: rhombus yes
    [2:26:04 PM] Wyzard97: Oh I just saw this, Daniel called it mothership?
    [2:26:12 PM] julissa279p: yes
    [2:26:14 PM] Wyzard97: Hmm potent then.
    [2:26:34 PM] julissa279p: cuz where he wrote millions....he saw many tiny little ships on there
    [2:26:36 PM] Wyzard97: I did not make the reading connect, but as soon as I saw it I kinda knew it was
    [2:26:40 PM] julissa279p: inside

    [2:26:52 PM] Wyzard97: Sun yes but the black star Gaia Serpentina
    [2:27:09 PM] Wyzard97: This is December 21st in a nutshell
    [2:27:29 PM] Wyzard97: Yes mothership he said
    [2:27:36 PM] Wyzard97: See the connect to you?
    [2:27:53 PM] Wyzard97: 21-12-12 is the end of your mission, when did he have this dream?
    [2:28:21 PM] julissa279p: dreamt it on 26 June 2012 same day he drew this
    [2:28:36 PM] Wyzard97: Ah yes, the date of the pic
    [2:28:41 PM] julissa279p: yes
    [2:29:02 PM] Wyzard97: This was 21 days after the Venus transit
    [2:29:14 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, I recall you mentioning this dream of Daniel's
    [2:30:01 PM] Wyzard97: 2 entrances see?
    [2:30:08 PM] julissa279p: yes 2 hmm
    [2:30:11 PM] Wyzard97: And the geometry is all in symmetry
    [2:30:23 PM] Wyzard97: These are the mirrors in the timeline, this symmetry
    [2:30:33 PM] Wyzard97: 2 Baabs'
    [2:30:44 PM] Wyzard97: 2 Gates
    [2:30:58 PM] Wyzard97: Bab=Gate in arabic and say the bahai faith
    [2:31:07 PM] julissa279p: except the yellow light i guess
    [2:31:28 PM] Wyzard97: The 'shiney thing'?
    [2:32:12 PM] julissa279p: hmm shinny thing seems to be pointing somewhere else tho
    [2:32:56 PM] Wyzard97: I am not sure, but the 'broken symmetry' to the yellow triangle is the dark sunlight flowing INTO the starship, see that?
    [2:33:07 PM] Wyzard97: This is simple data transfer
    [2:33:55 PM] Wyzard97: The dark light of the New starplanet shines into the universe and the ETs are getting this information from the Gaian history and are processing it to let the millions of ufos out
    [2:34:09 PM]Wyzard97: Very easy code this, Daniel did well
    [2:34:30 PM] Wyzard97: This is just what we 'proclaimed'
    [2:34:56 PM] Wyzard97: The yellow light then is the 'processor' being lit up by the Gaian data
    [2:35:21 PM] Wyzard97: Hmm I decoded this very well lol
    [2:35:28 PM] Wyzard97: I know this to be so
    [2:35:30 PM] Wyzard97: iow

    [2:35:48 PM] julissa279p: [2:32 PM] Wyzard97:

    <<< but the 'broken symmetry' to the yellow triangle is the dark sunlight flowing INTO the starship, see that?oh yes now i see

    [2:36:00 PM] Wyzard97: So this means that the ufos are being 'made' from the old earth data
    [2:36:07 PM] Wyzard97: Perhaps even technical stuff
    [2:36:25 PM] Wyzard97: Good Daniel did extra well putting in those details
    [2:36:54 PM] julissa279p: what do you mean with "technical stuff"?
    [2:37:00 PM] julissa279p: mechanical?
    [2:37:17 PM] Wyzard97: I mean how to ADAPT ET technology to human 3D old technologies
    [2:37:36 PM] Wyzard97: Yes so it looks like starships of the scifi etc
    [2:38:05 PM] Wyzard97: The fundamental technology in the universe is like virus geometry
    [2:38:20 PM] Wyzard97: This is why this looks like a rhombus diamond shape
    [2:38:41 PM] julissa279p: i never heard of virus geometry before
    [2:38:42 PM] Wyzard97: The entire universe is ONE starhuman merkabah body
    [2:39:00 PM] julissa279p: yes that concept i do know
    [2:39:07 PM] Wyzard97: Look at a aids virus it is a perfect icosahedron the Dan Winter stuff
    [2:39:16 PM] julissa279p: oh yes
    [2:39:33 PM] julissa279p: i remember he explained it in his video
    [2:39:38 PM] Wyzard97: There are the Platonic Solids in the viruses as the most elementary form of 'life' requiring a host
    [2:40:00 PM] julissa279p: oooh ...omg
    [2:40:02 PM] Wyzard97: After this the next step are microbes and bacteria all geometric too, but not as 'perfect' as the viruses
    [2:40:47 PM] Wyzard97: So the Virus is the basic building block for all life. All life evolved from that
    [2:41:15 PM] Wyzard97: The bacteria are prokaryotic meaning without nucleus
    [2:41:47 PM] julissa279p: all bacteria lack a nucleus?
    [2:41:51 PM] julissa279p: i didn't know that
    [2:42:00 PM] Wyzard97: They engage in endosymbiosis, where the bacteria ancestors 'eats' another bacteria and this eaten one becomes the nucleus in a blending, rather than a digestion
    [2:42:14 PM] julissa279p: aha i see
    [2:42:19 PM] Wyzard97: So are born the first multicellular organisms as eukaryotes'
    [2:43:05 PM] Wyzard97: Bacteria are different from more 'advanced' lifeforms because of having no nucleus yes
    [2:43:28 PM] Wyzard97: Endosymbiosis means 'cooperation'
    [2:43:41 PM] julissa279p: so in essence we are an evolved virus?
    [2:43:45 PM] Wyzard97: Like birds cleaning crocodile teeth without becomingh breakfast
    [2:43:50 PM] Wyzard97: YES
    [2:44:20 PM] Wyzard97: Why so called virus diseases are actually a key to immortality
    [2:44:27 PM] julissa279p: and the planets are our hosts
    [2:44:36 PM] Wyzard97: Well sort of
    [2:44:52 PM] Wyzard97: The planets are like 'viruses' in starsystems you could say
    [2:45:02 PM] julissa279p: so if we beat all viruses we can become immortal
    [2:45:27 PM] Wyzard97: The viruses would become the baseperfect genetic multipier and replicator
    [2:45:51 PM] Wyzard97: Now the trouble with ageing etc is the depletion of telomerase in cellular mitosis
    [2:46:52 PM] Wyzard97: So whenever a bodycell (somatic) divides in mitosis, it loses part of the telomeras and after dividing a few times it cannot divide anymore, because the telomerase 'antenna' or tail is too short
    [2:47:25 PM] Wyzard97: The neurons or braincells have no telomerase but dont divide as is believed
    [2:47:38 PM] Wyzard97: So this is why there are genetic diseases uncurable
    [2:47:52 PM] Wyzard97: But neurons are by nature immortal
    [2:48:25 PM] Wyzard97: The point is, that all cells are derivatives of totipotent stemcells
    [2:48:50 PM] Wyzard97: So the totipotents define the organs and bodyparts in the growing embryo
    [2:49:09 PM] Wyzard97: So put in totipotents into a body and anything can regrow
    [2:49:23 PM] Wyzard97: Genetic experiments relate to that
    [2:49:37 PM] Wyzard97: Totipotents are sexually defined
    [2:50:06 PM] Wyzard97: menstrual blood and placenta, umbilical cord blood and the semen and vaginal juices
    [2:50:13 PM] julissa279p: so there are female and males one who have sex with each other?
    [2:50:55 PM] Wyzard97: This I dont know if this is scientific nous atm
    [2:51:18 PM] Wyzard97: But yes the dna codons are actually polarised in male and female templates
    [2:51:49 PM] Wyzard97: So the new dna is polarised in matching templates of the 64-codex becoming multiplied by 4 to 256
    [2:52:00 PM] julissa279p: does celular memory get stored in this totipotents?
    [2:52:03 PM] Wyzard97: I have a pic of this, you want it?
    [2:52:13 PM] julissa279p: yes please

    [2:52:31 PM] Wyzard97: The totipotents are like babies, that grow into adults and then specialise
    [2:52:55 PM] julissa279p: [2:50 PM] Wyzard97:

    <<< menstrual blood and placenta, umbilical cord blood and the semen and vaginal juicesthese are the most potent in the body energywise

    [2:53:20 PM] julissa279p: they hold a lot of information
    [2:53:58 PM] *** Wyzard97 sent 37.jpg 37.jpg 37.jpg ***

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    [2:54:44 PM] Wyzard97: This might be the wrong pic
    [2:56:15 PM] *** Wyzard97 sent 5.jpg 5.jpg 5.jpg ***

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    [2:56:23 PM] *** Wyzard97 sent 32.jpg 32.jpg 32.jpg ***

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    [2:57:09 PM] Wyzard97: 5 is the one I meant and 32 and 37 are details in an analysis of what this means but you see there the sex between the codons
    [2:57:55 PM] julissa279p: a Matrix within a Matrix...
    [2:58:07 PM] *** Wyzard97 sent 2.jpg 2.jpg 2.jpg ***

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    [2:58:14 PM] Wyzard97: 2 is the start of this
    [2:58:15 PM] julissa279p: Matriz in Spanish means...womb
    [2:58:25 PM] Wyzard97: You can understand this
    [2:58:40 PM] Wyzard97: Yes 64 in 256
    [2:58:51 PM] Wyzard97: 4x4x4 in 4x4x4x4
    [2:59:25 PM] Wyzard97: I am not clever enough to further this work I did in 2000 or so
    [2:59:43 PM] Wyzard97: But it is a description of the new genomatrix ok
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    [3:00:27 PM] Wyzard97: Page 1 has the pic of the 4x4x4
    [3:01:42 PM] Wyzard97: The 12D triple helix is 23
    [3:02:00 PM] Wyzard97: All up there are 37 pages of this published on the forums
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    [3:03:55 PM] Wyzard97: This polarisation of the 64 matrix is not known to the mainstream, but many would suspect something like this
    [3:04:19 PM] Wyzard97: But this answers your questions about totipotent sex
    [3:04:34 PM] Wyzard97: The genome is based on this and so is the New World
    [3:04:54 PM] Wyzard97: Why the polyness becomes data sharing in a galactic-cellular form
    [3:06:03 PM] Wyzard97: So all consentual sex becomes information processing by the new totipotents and as time goes on and the Gaian bubble reaches more and more starsystems the galactic modes will kick in as well
    [3:06:51 PM] Wyzard97: But I am reluctant to talk about this, as the timeframe is yet far too early for this information to be properly understood
    [3:07:53 PM] Wyzard97: But perhaps you can see just WHY the ETs are so interested in human sexuality as seen in the 'experiments' on abductees etc etc
    [3:08:25 PM] Wyzard97: It is their own sexuality and data processing, that depends on understanding the human to starhuman metamorphosis
    [3:09:16 PM] julissa279p: hmm
    [3:09:21 PM] julissa279p: thank you Tony
    [3:09:28 PM] julissa279p: i haveto go for now
    [3:09:37 PM] julissa279p: gotta wake up early tomorrow
    [3:09:48 PM] Wyzard97: No problem. Is it ok to publish Danny's pic on spruz?
    [3:09:57 PM] julissa279p: i hope i ca get online in the afternoon
    [3:10:01 PM] julissa279p: yes sure
    [3:10:31 PM] Wyzard97: Ok thanks I want it and part of this description as a Gaian addendum
    [3:10:59 PM] julissa279p: oh no that's fine
    [3:11:04 PM] Wyzard97: Merci

    [3:32:09 PM] Wyzard97:

    [3:32:38 PM] Wyzard97: I forgot to mention the circle with the 3 little circles in it and as the basis of Daniel's ufos.
    [3:34:42 PM] Wyzard97: This is the actual subatomic quantum geometry in the trisection of the 360 degrees into three 120 degree sectors described in QCD or Quantum-Chromo-Dynamics, the science of the colour charges of the quarks, with those colour charges becoming multidimensional 'magneto charges' in 8 gluon permutations. But we shall not get too technical here. But you can see that the minimum science of life in the viruses becomes even deeper in the minimum science of the quantum physics in the so called smallest constituents of matter in the colour charged quarks and those quarks are BOTH wave and particle as the minimum building block of all matetr and mass - and also geometric like the viruses. This was a very insightful dream of Daniel's indeed in encapsulating and catching the true nature of life and the physical universe in its elementary cosmogenesis of the beginnings.

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    Post  JesterTerrestrial Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:30 pm

    Thank you Raven! Hugs I know you know I got STAR CRUISERS on my mind straight from the heart of the CORE!!!

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    Here is a video that just landed on my IFFW NEWS desk. Some interesting comments you can verify for yourself.


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    Disclosure made by FEDERAL JUDGE DAVID WYNN MILLER who is the speaker in the video. He discusses amazing new technology in China, the Greenland UFO and the UFO captured on video over the opening ceremony of the 2012 Olympics

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    Post  Raven Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:02 pm


    A good webpage devoted to scams is Internet Scambusters.
    Having been involved with the organized "freedom movement" for 20 years, I have seen lots of scams go through our ranks, damaging greatly the people on our side. Because this has been and still is a very serious problem, I wish to relate some of these scams here so that others may learn what has happened and protect themselves. The specific parties and programs discussed below are (A) David Wynn: Miller, (B) Ken Hunter and "William Shepherd" of The Hornet, (C) Richard and Bridget Jones, (D) the "railroad bonds" scam, (E) Phil Marsh, and (F) Leroy Schwietzer.
    What about the "Church of Scientology"?
    Read this.

    Read about T. Bell.

    A. David Wynn Miller
    For several years, I have watched the insanity promoted by that crazy guru, David Miller. He claims that he has a sleeping deficiency and has not slept for many years, thus he can stay up all night and study law. His legal theories, among many other flaky arguments, include an argument that one must avoid use of prepositions in legal motions and documents. Perhaps I do not know precisely his arguments; that's because I cannot understand them as they are utterly crazy.
    Here is a recent note from his "wife":

    <BLOCKQUOTE>----- Original Message -----
    From: Colleen Lloyd <>
    To: .....
    Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:56 PM
    I do this with a prayer that the Lord will do what has to be done and guide our actions, and with great reluctance, but also great resolve. I never thought I would be doing this, but I want to expose the truth about this fraud who teaches the "In the Truth" Law Procedures, David Wynn Miller's deception and I would like to have some press and radio on it, immediately and until he is called to repentance. Another Clinton we don't need. What we need is someone who will follow the Lord's program, not put his program above the Lord and deceive people. David Miller is so convinced that his language procedures are the only way, truth and light, that he told me, "Jesus spoke in fiction."

    Anyone you know who would do a show where David will have to answer for his lies, which I will go into, or where people can bring issues relating to his deceptions forward for him to have to explain, please contact me at once at 435-632-2321 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting MUST SEE!!! UFO MOTHERSHIP Sighting over Cape Coral Florida  Numbers_button_skype_logo435-632-2321 FREE end_of_the_skype_highlighting . He will be in Bellingham, Washington Thursday the 23rd, and have a seminar Saturday and Sunday at the Red Baron Suites. I am planning on being there passing out what I have discovered about him, unless he corrects his mistakes publically. I am doing my investigation there to get certain proof I need, and I already have a lot of evidence.

    If someone can arrange an interview with him for as soon as he gets off the plane, on the radio by phone, or otherwise, and find out when he will get to the airport and what flight he will be on, he can be investigated from the moment he arrives, which is necessary to get to the truth.

    The reason I am contacting you, is that David has consistently trashed and failed to acknowledge Right Way Law, and ALL programs except his, INCLUDING THE LORD'S. He says his procedures disqualify everything else because it is all in fiction. He has made out those like Larry Becroft, Jural Society, who say ANYTHING against him or bring up challenges, etc. to be doing what they are doing because David is taking away their students and income. And now that I see the reality of who he is, and his capacity to confuse and destroy willfully people's lives for his own interests, I think I and the others who have information and who have been hurt by his lies have a right to be heard and people have a right to know so that the wrong can stop. I never thought that I would be called as a witness to discredit him, but I am very sadly, yet very LOUDLY saying that I will do it now.

    I am Colleen-Lloyd-Miller, his wife. It is a "common-law" and unusual thing privately between us, which David insisted upon because at first he was so adamant against marriage and could not ever have anything in writing. Being that we both agree that the state is not a partner in the marriage and don't want a license, I said, I don't need it in writing, then, I want a marriage in our hearts and union of our lives to build it together, like Adam and Eve, no papers necessary then. He said, " I can work with that." And we were supposed to get a house...and he is the king of breaking promises.

    And he would say he didn't want anyone even knowing about it at first, because he concerned someone out to get him would hurt me. But you could not hide it, and I didn't want to because I am so honest and open, and over the years, it has become pretty known to many that we are a couple, and we are openly very romantic and he pays bills and our phone and internet accounts, etc, and we will be addressed as a wife and husband in those often and at hotels, etc. The reason this is significant is because, since I found out that he was lying about emails that showed he was cheating, he has actually tried to deny that there is any relationship between us at all, and attacked Clinton. It is absolutely chilling to me. The pattern of deception is in his work, too.

    And there is more to it, and there were storms like men and women have and wrongs and forgiving and trying again to build a love that lasts. You know how it is. But he would not let me come and be in Milwaukee, because he said I would be unhappy and he was always gone on the seminars and never home, and he would see me more if I was out here, and flew me and had me come to the seminars whenever I could. RIGHT.

    I knew that it was not right, and it caused me doubts and I constantly wondered and asked if he was seeing other women, which he denies TO THIS DAY he ever did in 5 years, in spite of the proof I now have, and even his family, friends and closest students telling me...and I wondered why it was that way, and had all the instincts you have that he was lying.

    But you have to understand that David stands up there and professes to be all about honor and integrity and the truth, and can be very persuasive and manipulative to get what he wants, and you want to believe him and love and support him. You want to believe someone is about fighting to correct the corrupt courts, who is everyone's hope for...a Saviour?

    I just found out, to my great horror, that he had been lying and cheating on me with not just one, but probably many women. I questioned information I got before, but he always denied it. This time I saw emails that proved it, and asked why. I have saved my emails. When I emailed the woman and asked what she meant by her statements, David began his defamation campaign, and still accuses me of being crazy and making it all up.

    He tried to claim that Anthony Rees, the woman's ex-boyfriend, sent all of the emails to assassinate his character, because Anthony was involved in a conspiracy to destroy his program. Anthony has emailed me that he absolutely did not create the emails. Paul Newton's website has been created to show the falseness of the claims that people like Anthony investigated. Anthony suggests I go to the public forum rather than to court. I plan to file a complaint/claim against him and his seminar host, "Debbie Anderson" tomorrow for conspiracy and accessory in the crimes of fraud, malice, defamation, libel, reckless endangerment, criminal and willful negligence and adultery. The maliciousness is scary. I see in him the same pattern as we saw in Clinton, who David claims is "one of my students."

    And that is why I feel that it is relevant, because of the way people follow him like it is a cult and look to him as some kind of leader, or Messiah-like figure, to the point where they are so blind they are willing to lie and attack anyone who brings forth the truth, and sacrifice that person to the cult and justify anything he does, regardless of any sense of moral integrity. I think he has put his program before the Lord's plan, and it is almost like he is the Creator of this sick religion which he calls law. I am their latest prey.

    He is so convinced that his In the Truth language "procedures" are the be all and end all, that last year, when I made a very big step and told him how I wanted to share with him the importance of the Saviour, and my step I made to truly devote my life to the Lord and be willing to place Christ first, all he had to say about Jesus was, "Jesus spoke in fiction."

    The Lord was not following David Miller's law procedures. David's plan was apparently superior to the Lord's. This is the arrogance that Satan had, and his downfall, and it is David's downfall also. I was full of the love for the Saviour and realizing how much the Saviour had done for us, and full of faith. I told him that if you believe in Christ, all things are possible, that if the Lord could raise Lazarus from the dead, the Lord would work other miracles. I wanted to bring the Lord into our relationship because I knew that a man and woman must have the spirit of the Lord between them and that is the central pivot, and that it would make everything all right. I wanted a happy home and marriage and family, which had been a struggle to get him to realize the importance of and honor a commitment to. He would say one thing one day, and act like he never said it the next.

    What I wanted was to have a shared reverence for the Lord first, between us, because whenever two or more are you gathered in His name, he is there, and I could trust that and be happy. David only said that Jesus could have pulled off the Lazurus trick by faking the death. I have prayed so many times in this relationship to have the truth be made known about if David is a truthful, good man, because of all the attacks made on him and the things I see in my life with him.

    I have been David's biggest supporter, and written articles about him every week in the Las Vegas Tribune (one was published on the front page of the American Bulletin) and helped him with seminars and stood by him when students and others brought to me their concerns about his false claims, and when I saw him doing things that I questioned as wrong. I believed he was a good person in spite of the things I heard, and gave him always the benefit of the doubt.

    Now I know that he is a great deceiver, and the damage his deceit did to me and his hypocritical, arrogance and mocking, unrepentant attacks on me for seeking the truth are the reason why I see no other way at this point to combat his crimes but to expose him and call him to repentance. The only thing that he seems to understand is being called on the carpet before everyone publically.

    I have given them every chance, over and over, to admit they are lying in saying that they did not create the emails which show they are involved in the liaison which they denied to me. They will not. She is a Canadian, and Anthony also discovered this liaison by the emails, after smelling a rat when she would not let him (her fiance) attend the seminar. She is the leader of the website which is Citizens Voice for Health Rights, allegedly a non-profit organization. Apparently she has a marijuana addiction problem and cannot go a day without a joint. Which makes you wonder where she is going to get it illegally in this country. She also, he says, has no job, but lives off the money from the seminar/materials/tapes, and lives with her mother in Kelowna Canada. She apparently got into trouble with Revenue Canada and whored her way into David's very busy bed when at a Bellingham seminar last March, to get to his "procedures" to get her out of it, so her silence is to make money and his interest is in keeping people quiet to keep the money coming in, I believe.

    David told me to charge the students who's lawsuits he set me up to correct, $400 and to lie and tell them that I had spent 4 hours at $100/hour, when he would just fax me the paperwork from himself. I refused to do it, and thought, well he is just trying to help. He felt he was justified, since he had spent so much time developing it and they were getting so much. I felt it was fraud. Now I see the reality that he IS a liar.

    The defamation began when he stopped paying my phone and internet -- when I found out he was lying and told people the truth. He and she refused to give me a statement that they did not send the incriminating emails or have an affair, and hassled me when I called for the truth. You would think they would want to know who had done it, wouldn't you, if not them?

    I have not let up calling him (sometimes pretty pissed off) and demanding the truth and an end to the lie. I am a pit bull. His friends call me crazy. He says I am making it all up. His students have brought to me his false claims for years, and now I know.

    He is a liar. He says no one will follow a lie.

    I know the truth and it will set you free.

    : copyright/copyclaim: 02-20-2001:
    </BLOCKQUOTE>Here is a note from Dr. Ron Carlson about Miller:
    <BLOCKQUOTE>Subject: [:David-Wynn-Miller Seminar Feb.24 and 25 in Bellingham WA] "THE BIGGEST CON ON EARTH!"
    Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 10:39:20 +0400
    From: "Ron Carlson" <
    To: ........
    Good day Mr. [....].

    It is important that you know what really happened when I used so-called technology by Miller.

    At my hearing for arraignment and plea February 17, 1998, I used the "flag" issue and the approach that I would not join with the court pursuant to F.R.Civ.P. 12(b)(7). That day I left court having not joined with the court. However, the following day I was arrested by U. S. Marshals and incarcerated at Halawa State Prison with the presumed threat that I would be held as a threat to the state if I did not submit to the court's jurisdiction.

    Prior to my arrest on Friday the 19th of 1998, I filed a "Title 42 Action" that was advocated by Miller. He will say that this is passe' now, but the reason I mention it was the fact that in a subsequent hearing the U. S. Prosecutor noted it and said that it was incomprehensible. Nothing else transpired other than the fact that I let the "42" action time lapse. Reason? Number one I could foresee it being held against me as a identified "tax protestor" as well as an activist for pure water in Hawaii locally, and the fact that I had been involved in many other initiatives regarding the return to Constitutional Rule of Law by the government. [My group was known as the "Phoenix Project Committee of 50 States" and aligned with Joe Stumph out of Utah. Morris Dees, a Khazarian Zionist B'nai B'rith Mosad agent, SUBVERSIVE, of the "Souther Poverty Law Center" (I am sure dedicated to perpetuation of "poverty" using law as a method to insure its existence [READ R. BUCKMINSTER FULLER'S GRUNCH OF GIANTS, ST. MARTIN PRESS, 1983]) identified our "group" as a militia support group in a document regarding what he identified as "terrorist organizations."]. The second reason was that I had seen the irrationality of the idea that I would ever prevail in any of the controlled Zionist courts. It is impossible at this time but may be appropriate as we uncover the lies.

    David Miller has never won in court to my knowledge other than by his own say so. Heresay, I say! Where is the meat? Ask for proof positive regarding the success of his technology. Court cases... Testimony... Documentation, not just his words.

    His tech. did not in fact work for me. He has noted in his seminars that I utilized his work successfully, but this is not so. I was found guilty of five counts of tax evasion, 26 U.S.C., section 7201. I had not filed since 1983 and held the position that a citizen in the U.S. was not subject to income tax nor employment tax (they are different you know) since for the former there must be foreign earned income, and the latter an agreement with the employer pursuant to 26 U.S.C., 3402p(2). My defense was the "condition of the mind."

    A final note. A person I am with at the half-way-house (the place one is held after prison until reaching his or her's mandatory release date) filed a Writ of Habeas Corpus using Miller's most current work. Judge Gillmore said if she persisted in the issue, she would order a psychological assessment of Ms. Ottley and have her committed if necessary. Does not sound good to me. I encouraged her to withdraw the HC and file a more rational action. I don't know what she has done. Nor have I seen here around the half-way-house either. The court may have taken her already.

    David may be correct in many of his ideas, but half truth will only get one in trouble. I may be a testimony of what did not work, ask him for testimony for when it did work. Be persistent. Get the facts.

    Best of luck to you and your fellows.

    Dr. Ronald S. Carlson
    4211 Waialae Avenue
    Suite 400
    Honolulu, Hawaii 9681

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    Post  JesterTerrestrial Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:10 pm

    Raven wrote: The specific parties and programs discussed below are (A) David Wynn: Miller,

    Well, some more interesting information to verify for my self and thank you for sharing.

    That said there still has been some good sightings so far this year. I posted a few a while back but been a bit busy lately working on the next smash... Star Cruisers on my mind!!! I sure hope we see more manifestations soon!


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    Post  Micjer Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:04 am

    I don't think the greenland ufo news is anything new.

    2007 info.

    Also I think it was just a discolourization of the satelite photo.

    This thread was started in 2007 on the David Icke forum.

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