I can relate to a lot of this
greybeard wrote: Identification with thoughts-- my thought-- gives credence to the fallacy that there is an individual person.
Oneness is one without a second--- no person is left when Truth dawns.
Awareness remains and was always present.
Awareness knows there is no this or that only This.
There is no separation anywhere.
Everything is unified.
Sometimes I just want to scream but I `d go against myself if I `d neglect this fire inside me.
Thanks for great words.
greybeard wrote:Having never left the house you are asking for the way home. Get rid of wrong ideas, that is all. Collecting right ideas also will take you nowhere. Just cease imagining. First of all, abandon all self-identification, stop thinking of yourself as such-and-such, so-and-so, this or that. Abandon all self-concern, worry not about your welfare, material or spiritual. Abandon any desire, gross or subtle, stop thinking of achievement of any kind. You are complete here and now, you need absolutely nothing. Leave it all behind you. Forget it. Go forth, unburdened with ideas and beliefs. Abandon all verbal structures, all relative truth, all tangible objectives.
There is no need of a way out of the dream! Don't you see that a way out is also a part of the dream? All you have to do is see the dream as dream. The very idea of going beyond the dream is illusory. Why go anywhere? Just realize that you are dreaming a dream you call the world, and stop looking for ways out. The problem is not the dream. Your problem is that you like one part of your dream and not another. Love all, or none of it, and stop complaining. When you have seen the dream as a dream, you have done all that needs be done.
orthodoxymoron wrote:I haven't been following this thread, but I thought I'd suggest reading the books by Dr. Robert H. Schuller -- regarding the ego and the self. I actually prefered reading his material, as opposed to hearing it. I agreed with 95% of what he said and wrote -- yet there was something very wrong in Garden Grove. I'd like to see what a Positive Response-Ability Based Crystal Cathedral Ministry might look like. Think long and hard about THAT!
Beren wrote:A bit of graphic regarding ego:
Thank-you devakas. A lot of research seems to involve spinning one's wheels -- wherein we are 'always learning, but never achieving a knowledge of the truth'. Nature is extremely important in all of this. Reading 'Move Ahead with Possibility Thinking' by Dr. Schuller, while laying in the sands of Newport Beach was at least as much fun as attending a service at the Crystal Cathedral. Unfortunately I don't think life is fair, and I don't think life cares. We are not born into a nice world and a level playing field, with ethical players and referees. Some of the fans even throw stones and stab us in the back. In this lawless world we live in, I absolutely believe in absolutes!devakas wrote:orthodoxymoron wrote:I haven't been following this thread, but I thought I'd suggest reading the books by Dr. Robert H. Schuller -- regarding the ego and the self. I actually prefered reading his material, as opposed to hearing it. I agreed with 95% of what he said and wrote -- yet there was something very wrong in Garden Grove. I'd like to see what a Positive Response-Ability Based Crystal Cathedral Ministry might look like. Think long and hard about THAT!
if me Ortho, than I would say I do not have time. Also I realized that there is a Book written to every person in this world. Nobody is left without knowledge as it would be not fair, agree? Just we need to find it for ourselves. I believe in absolute truth, some think they create truth. or think that all is random. again look at the flowers...
i think everybody agrees you are most loveble person in mists.
Everything is spiritual, there is nothing else.
greybeard wrote:Align oneself to God's will and then see what happens.