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orthodoxymoron- Posts : 13407
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What if the United States is part of the Roman Empire? What if the Whole World is part of the Roman Empire? What if the Entire Solar System is part of the Roman Empire? What if the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights merely provide the Illusion of a Democracy? What if the United States has always been part of the Roman Empire? What if the Roman Empire is part of the Egyptian Empire (or at least is based upon the Egyptian Empire)? Which empire controls Gizeh Intelligence? What if the Roman New World Order started with the Fall of the Egyptian Old World Order? What if All of the Above are part of the Sirian Galactic Empire? What if my pipe-dream of a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System, and a Sovereign Human Race -- is a Threat to Galactic Security -- which cannot be allowed under any circumstances? What if I am a disempowered and demoted Ancient Reptilian Queen (demoted for defending humanity and promoting freedom -- contrary to orders?) who is attempting a comeback? In the highly unlikely chance that this were the case, would it be better to seek a Theocratic Dictatorship rather than a Representative Republic? Might I be shooting myself in the -- never mind. I don't know which way to jump. I don't know how to absolutely determine what the truth is. I'm trying to help - but I suspect that I might be doing just the opposite - so what should I do?
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newel- Posts : 803
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I knew you would notice my thread ortho. I couldn't help but notice a similarity in styles. :)
I think it's a good rant from the judge nevertheless.
I'm drunk right now, and I'm downloading Melancholia and The Tree of Life. Have you seen any of those?
I think it's a good rant from the judge nevertheless.
I'm drunk right now, and I'm downloading Melancholia and The Tree of Life. Have you seen any of those?
orthodoxymoron- Posts : 13407
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No, I haven't. Also, I've never had a drink in my life, but I'm thinking about becoming an alcoholic. I can't take much more of this. I have no idea what I'm fighting. I probably have a snowball's chance in hell of getting what I think I want. But really, I don't know what I want -- other than a single day of peace. I'm finding it increasingly difficult to become motivated, when few seem to care, there is no financial benefit, and it is tearing me apart - physcially, mentally, and spiritually. Check this out:
Queen of the World? http://rense.com/general91/hail.htm
Hail Caesar! Queen Gives Marching
Orders To The UN
By Joan M. Veon
7-10-10
Regarding the queens speech to the United Nations, we were told by the British Mission to the United Nations that the queen "Will be taking a global perspective. She will touch on progress made since she was last here and challenges that remain."
For a woman who says she is not head of any country-only titular head of state of 16 countries including Australia, Canada and New Zealand and the nominal representative of 54 governments in the British Commonwealth, who is fooling who? Why should be the people of the world listen to a little old lady from Britain? The answer is because her hereditary demands it.
The visit by the queen, which was billed as low key-a five hour visit-was designed to get the global agenda of sustainable development and climate control back on track and to make a statement. Nothing the queen does is low key as every visit, and every word has a meaning and a goal for total control.
First let's take a look at the queen herself. According to Who Owns the World by Kevin Cahill, the queen is the legal owner of 6,600 million acres of land that equals one sixth of the earth's non-ocean surface. She is the only person on earth who owns whole countries and who owns countries that re not her own domestic territory. This land ownership is separate from her role as head of state and is different from other monarchies-like Norway, Belgium, and Denmark, where no such claim is made. The value of her holdings is approximately $33T, more than the estimated value of all of the earth's natural resources which is estimated to be $25T.
Secondly, the physical structure of the United Nations and its agenda represents the completion of the dream and aspirations of British aristocrat Cecil Rhodes to return the United States and the rest of the world back under British rule. He felt that "too little of the globe was British territory and if we had retained America there would be millions more of English living."
In Rhode's 1877 will, it says "the ultimate recovery of the United States of America as an integral part of the British Empire, the consolidation of the whole Empire, the inauguration of a system of colonial Representation in the Imperial Parliament which may tend to weld together the disjointed Members of the Empire," which may well ultimately be achieved, by the Roundtable which "publicized the idea of and the name `British Commonwealth of Nations.'"
The executors of Rhodes' six wills had concerns and fears about what kind of structure all of this should take. According to Dr. Carroll Quigley in his The Anglo-American Establishment published in 1981, they concluded that they would have to transform the British Empire into "a Commonwealth of Nations and then place that system within a League of Nations." The United Nations is the successor to the League of Nations and the Commonwealth is inside the U.N. In other words, we are there. The representatives to the UN should have greeted her, "Hail Caesar"!
It should be noted that from 1946-1989 the British Empire gave "independence" to many of their former colonies. How they did this was to allow them to have their own parliament with representative government and their own prime minister. Lest you think they can do as they please, the queen has her own appointed representative called the Director-General that reports to her everything going on in the country and who reads her instructions after the prime minister provides his report at the opening of their parliament.
As each country obtained independence, they also got a vote at the United Nations. Today the Commonwealth has the potential of 54 votes to America's one vote. You will find if you look at the number of Commonwealth countries that are members of the other UN agencies like the IMF, World Bank, World Health Organization, World Trade Organization, etc., the U.S. is outvoted.
In three separate interviews with representatives from three Commonwealth nations in 2002, I was told by each of them who looked at me with fear and terror when I challenged them to leave the Commonwealth that they could not. In fact the queen made reference to the Commonwealth,
Since I addressed you last, the Commonwealth, too, has grown vigorously To become a group of nations representing nearly two billion people. Last November, when I opened the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in Trinidad and Tobago, I told the delegates that the Commonwealth had the opportunity to lead. Today I offer you the same message.
Do you now see the meaning of the words and how she used words? The queen also made mention to the Millennium Development Goals. The bottom line, these wonderful socialistic humanitarian goals where the rich countries of the world will give a primary education to every child in the world, reduce poverty and starvation, HIV/Aids, and give $50 to every slum dweller to improve their lives will cost rich between $40-$60B a year according to the United Nations. This money is to come from an assessment on every country's Gross Domestic Product called "ODA" to the tune of .07%. In fact, you could call it a global tax. For as long as I have been covering global meetings, this has been a request by the United Nations, wow it is a request by the queen. Does anyone know who will get these monies? No. However, it just so happens that the following ten countries which are "Highly Indebted Poor Countries" are members of the Commonwealth: Cameroon, Gambia, Ghana, Guyana, Malawi, Mozambique, Somalia, Sierra Leone, Uganda and Zambia. Do you see what I see? The civilized word is "transfer of wealth."
That brings us to the environment, Agenda 21, sustainable development, and climate change. While the first pre-United Nations Conference on population was held in 1927 with the assistance of the League of Nations, it was not until 1972 that the United Nations held its own environmental conference in Stockholm. Eleven years before in 1961, Prince Philip the queen's husband and Prince Bernard of the Netherlands started the World Wildlife Fund, considered one of the oldest and largest environmental groups in the world. World Wildlife Fund is responsible for the publication of many studies and reports on how to save the environment. These documents have been used to support and implement Agenda 21.
In 1972 the Club of Rome published Limits to Growth which said the world could not sustain the population and that something would have to be done. Since the dictates of Agenda 21 are based on Limits to Growth assumptions, in a 2006 interview with Maurice Strong who chaired the 1972 and 1992 earth summits, I asked him if in looking back the assumptions and computer models that were used for that report were wrong, given today's data, and he admitted that they should be revised. The bottom line is that most of the environmentalism and ideas for environmentalism are being birthed in England.
It was a British scientist, James Lovelock, who formulated the "Gaia Hypothesis" that the earth is a living organism and that it must be protected from you and me. Prince Charles has been involved in environmentalism since 1970 and is responsible for helping to get Agenda 21 to be approved by 25,000 conference participants and delegates at the 1992 UNCED conference through his Prince of Wales International Business Leaders Forum. When you study Agenda 21, it basically is a return of the earth to feudalism. The idea being that you and I cannot protect the earth's resources so the United Nation's has to do it moves the $25T value of earth's natural resources into the balance sheets of the QUEEN. The cost to implement climate change is estimated to be between $80-$100B a year. British Petroleum which is largely owned by the queen could make up their current oil spill expenses very quickly if the U.S. government is stupid enough to pass "cap and trade."
Lastly, several years ago I raised the question, "Does the Queen of Canada" become the "Queen of America" through the North American Free Trade Agreement? It appears to be so according to my research. Although Cecil Rhodes talked about "world peace", I believe what the queen is talking about is the WHOLE PIECE.
The operation we are discussing here has been 133 years in operation with many actors contributing to its establishment. They include many British and American industrialists and bankers such as the Rockefeller's, Vanderbilt's, the Whitney's, the Morgan's and Schiff's. It includes those that are members of the Royal Institute for International Affairs and America's counterpart: the Council on Foreign Relations, it includes the International Chamber of Commerce, the World Economic Forum, and many other global organizations and NGO's.
For those who still don't understand what happened at the United Nations on July 6, 2010 is that the conquering ruler of the world came and delivered a sharp admonition to the representatives that it is time to act. She ended her speech with,
In my lifetime, the United Nations has moved from being a high-minded aspiration to being a real force for the common good. In tomorrow's world, we must all work together as hard as ever if we are truly to be United Nations.
Do you want to be the United Nations or do you want to be the United States of America?
Queen of the World? http://rense.com/general91/hail.htm
Hail Caesar! Queen Gives Marching
Orders To The UN
By Joan M. Veon
7-10-10
Regarding the queens speech to the United Nations, we were told by the British Mission to the United Nations that the queen "Will be taking a global perspective. She will touch on progress made since she was last here and challenges that remain."
For a woman who says she is not head of any country-only titular head of state of 16 countries including Australia, Canada and New Zealand and the nominal representative of 54 governments in the British Commonwealth, who is fooling who? Why should be the people of the world listen to a little old lady from Britain? The answer is because her hereditary demands it.
The visit by the queen, which was billed as low key-a five hour visit-was designed to get the global agenda of sustainable development and climate control back on track and to make a statement. Nothing the queen does is low key as every visit, and every word has a meaning and a goal for total control.
First let's take a look at the queen herself. According to Who Owns the World by Kevin Cahill, the queen is the legal owner of 6,600 million acres of land that equals one sixth of the earth's non-ocean surface. She is the only person on earth who owns whole countries and who owns countries that re not her own domestic territory. This land ownership is separate from her role as head of state and is different from other monarchies-like Norway, Belgium, and Denmark, where no such claim is made. The value of her holdings is approximately $33T, more than the estimated value of all of the earth's natural resources which is estimated to be $25T.
Secondly, the physical structure of the United Nations and its agenda represents the completion of the dream and aspirations of British aristocrat Cecil Rhodes to return the United States and the rest of the world back under British rule. He felt that "too little of the globe was British territory and if we had retained America there would be millions more of English living."
In Rhode's 1877 will, it says "the ultimate recovery of the United States of America as an integral part of the British Empire, the consolidation of the whole Empire, the inauguration of a system of colonial Representation in the Imperial Parliament which may tend to weld together the disjointed Members of the Empire," which may well ultimately be achieved, by the Roundtable which "publicized the idea of and the name `British Commonwealth of Nations.'"
The executors of Rhodes' six wills had concerns and fears about what kind of structure all of this should take. According to Dr. Carroll Quigley in his The Anglo-American Establishment published in 1981, they concluded that they would have to transform the British Empire into "a Commonwealth of Nations and then place that system within a League of Nations." The United Nations is the successor to the League of Nations and the Commonwealth is inside the U.N. In other words, we are there. The representatives to the UN should have greeted her, "Hail Caesar"!
It should be noted that from 1946-1989 the British Empire gave "independence" to many of their former colonies. How they did this was to allow them to have their own parliament with representative government and their own prime minister. Lest you think they can do as they please, the queen has her own appointed representative called the Director-General that reports to her everything going on in the country and who reads her instructions after the prime minister provides his report at the opening of their parliament.
As each country obtained independence, they also got a vote at the United Nations. Today the Commonwealth has the potential of 54 votes to America's one vote. You will find if you look at the number of Commonwealth countries that are members of the other UN agencies like the IMF, World Bank, World Health Organization, World Trade Organization, etc., the U.S. is outvoted.
In three separate interviews with representatives from three Commonwealth nations in 2002, I was told by each of them who looked at me with fear and terror when I challenged them to leave the Commonwealth that they could not. In fact the queen made reference to the Commonwealth,
Since I addressed you last, the Commonwealth, too, has grown vigorously To become a group of nations representing nearly two billion people. Last November, when I opened the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in Trinidad and Tobago, I told the delegates that the Commonwealth had the opportunity to lead. Today I offer you the same message.
Do you now see the meaning of the words and how she used words? The queen also made mention to the Millennium Development Goals. The bottom line, these wonderful socialistic humanitarian goals where the rich countries of the world will give a primary education to every child in the world, reduce poverty and starvation, HIV/Aids, and give $50 to every slum dweller to improve their lives will cost rich between $40-$60B a year according to the United Nations. This money is to come from an assessment on every country's Gross Domestic Product called "ODA" to the tune of .07%. In fact, you could call it a global tax. For as long as I have been covering global meetings, this has been a request by the United Nations, wow it is a request by the queen. Does anyone know who will get these monies? No. However, it just so happens that the following ten countries which are "Highly Indebted Poor Countries" are members of the Commonwealth: Cameroon, Gambia, Ghana, Guyana, Malawi, Mozambique, Somalia, Sierra Leone, Uganda and Zambia. Do you see what I see? The civilized word is "transfer of wealth."
That brings us to the environment, Agenda 21, sustainable development, and climate change. While the first pre-United Nations Conference on population was held in 1927 with the assistance of the League of Nations, it was not until 1972 that the United Nations held its own environmental conference in Stockholm. Eleven years before in 1961, Prince Philip the queen's husband and Prince Bernard of the Netherlands started the World Wildlife Fund, considered one of the oldest and largest environmental groups in the world. World Wildlife Fund is responsible for the publication of many studies and reports on how to save the environment. These documents have been used to support and implement Agenda 21.
In 1972 the Club of Rome published Limits to Growth which said the world could not sustain the population and that something would have to be done. Since the dictates of Agenda 21 are based on Limits to Growth assumptions, in a 2006 interview with Maurice Strong who chaired the 1972 and 1992 earth summits, I asked him if in looking back the assumptions and computer models that were used for that report were wrong, given today's data, and he admitted that they should be revised. The bottom line is that most of the environmentalism and ideas for environmentalism are being birthed in England.
It was a British scientist, James Lovelock, who formulated the "Gaia Hypothesis" that the earth is a living organism and that it must be protected from you and me. Prince Charles has been involved in environmentalism since 1970 and is responsible for helping to get Agenda 21 to be approved by 25,000 conference participants and delegates at the 1992 UNCED conference through his Prince of Wales International Business Leaders Forum. When you study Agenda 21, it basically is a return of the earth to feudalism. The idea being that you and I cannot protect the earth's resources so the United Nation's has to do it moves the $25T value of earth's natural resources into the balance sheets of the QUEEN. The cost to implement climate change is estimated to be between $80-$100B a year. British Petroleum which is largely owned by the queen could make up their current oil spill expenses very quickly if the U.S. government is stupid enough to pass "cap and trade."
Lastly, several years ago I raised the question, "Does the Queen of Canada" become the "Queen of America" through the North American Free Trade Agreement? It appears to be so according to my research. Although Cecil Rhodes talked about "world peace", I believe what the queen is talking about is the WHOLE PIECE.
The operation we are discussing here has been 133 years in operation with many actors contributing to its establishment. They include many British and American industrialists and bankers such as the Rockefeller's, Vanderbilt's, the Whitney's, the Morgan's and Schiff's. It includes those that are members of the Royal Institute for International Affairs and America's counterpart: the Council on Foreign Relations, it includes the International Chamber of Commerce, the World Economic Forum, and many other global organizations and NGO's.
For those who still don't understand what happened at the United Nations on July 6, 2010 is that the conquering ruler of the world came and delivered a sharp admonition to the representatives that it is time to act. She ended her speech with,
In my lifetime, the United Nations has moved from being a high-minded aspiration to being a real force for the common good. In tomorrow's world, we must all work together as hard as ever if we are truly to be United Nations.
Do you want to be the United Nations or do you want to be the United States of America?
newel- Posts : 803
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You can have a lot of drinks without even getting near alcoholism. I rarely drink myself nowadays, but tonight I felt the need to anesthetize my mind a little. You know, stop trying to figure out stuff.
Personally, I only try to be a witness of whatever is happening on Earth for as long as possible, but I don't try to change it. I find life as a human on Earth in 2011 (the mainstream life) absurd, and I do my best to bear it, because I believe in God (cause/effect), and I'm confident that it will all make sense in the after life, when the veil is lifted.
The Internet is great to share with like-minded people. Accepting that life is absurd, and even finding it funny, is key.
My Melancholia download is completed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_xsm46s2Gg
Personally, I only try to be a witness of whatever is happening on Earth for as long as possible, but I don't try to change it. I find life as a human on Earth in 2011 (the mainstream life) absurd, and I do my best to bear it, because I believe in God (cause/effect), and I'm confident that it will all make sense in the after life, when the veil is lifted.
The Internet is great to share with like-minded people. Accepting that life is absurd, and even finding it funny, is key.
My Melancholia download is completed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_xsm46s2Gg
orthodoxymoron- Posts : 13407
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You make a valid point. I think I need to stop trying to change things. I was educated to 'save souls' -- but theological and philosophical problems have hamstrung my efforts to 'save the world'. Now, I doubt that I can even save myself. I think I need to just let all of this go, and simply be an observer, which will probably drive me insane anyway. Perhaps the sheep should just keep sleeping -- even though they might very well be lambs to the slaughter. There might not be a hell of a lot we can do about it, so why not enjoy the show?
newel- Posts : 803
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We do change things. Our awareness does permeate and influence the ether, even as observers, but awareness is not easily manifested in a physical reality where, for most people, denial is an integral part to "happiness". In these kind of circumstances, awareness is seldom empowered. It's not easy to laugh at this cosmic joke.
mudra- Posts : 23210
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metaw3 wrote:
The Internet is great to share with like-minded people. Accepting that life is absurd, and even finding it funny, is key.
My Melancholia download is completed!
I agree life is absurd metaw and without any sense of humor one misses this completely .
The very fact that everything changes and passes good or bad , blissfull or sad , that there is nothing to hold on to that won't slip through your hands the next moment whenever that moment comes is proof enough of a surrealistic world.
The flow of creation on the screen of our minds as a perpetual motion has no beginning nor end . There is nothing there that is'nt already solved in it's opposite flow . It's a perfect pendulum . Trying to change anything to details is missing the whole picture.
As awareness grows we notice we aren't constantly connected to life's patterns. Between the various notes as in music there are silences - zero time - and although these are present while awake we don't pay attention to those but when night comes and the body is set to sleep or in deep meditation the window of opportunity is greater to completely remove the plug and resource ourselves in the great void. Imagine all perceptions being turned off at once very much like switching off the computer . What is left ?
If I watch Melancholia will it be an uplifting sensation or otherwise ?
Love for You
mudra
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Oxy this is for you .
The elders advised us that as things speed up, you yourself should slow down. The faster things go, the slower you go.
This little perl coming from the Native American elders that I stumbled upon today made my day .
Take it easy brother .
Have you ever listened to Arvo Part's music ?
Arvo Pärt (Paert/Part) - Te Deum / Berliner Messe (Alleluia, Sanctus, Gloria)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbxI1nalsmU
Arvo Pärt - Spiegel im Spiegel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYypmgIYOVQ
There is beauty in this world
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mudra wrote:
If I watch Melancholia will it be an uplifting sensation or otherwise ?
I wouldn't say uplifting, but it was a nice experience overall. I just finished both. The Tree of Life is a work of art. If you liked The Thin Red Line, it's from the same director. It's more uplifting than Melancholia. Both have amazing images, and are very slow paced. The Tree of Life doesn't have a clear plot. They're both poetic.
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metaw3 wrote:
I wouldn't say uplifting, but it was a nice experience overall. I just finished both. The Tree of Life is a work of art. If you liked The Thin Red Line, it's from the same director. It's more uplifting than Melancholia. Both have amazing images, and are very slow paced. The Tree of Life doesn't have a clear plot. They're both poetic.
Thanks metaw.
I haven't seen any of these. I'll keep them in mind for when the time is right .
Love for you
mudra
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This is what Melancholia is about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI6A8EOFAKU
What's interesting is that it's a Lars Von Trier movie (Breaking the Waves, Dogville). It's not your typical Hollywoood movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI6A8EOFAKU
What's interesting is that it's a Lars Von Trier movie (Breaking the Waves, Dogville). It's not your typical Hollywoood movie.
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Thank-you mudra. The music was beautiful. I think it is necessary to speed-up and slow-down -- simultaneously. I think that proper research is a big part of this. One should probably withdraw from the rat race (especially when the rats are winning), and do some heavy-duty research while listening to the type of music you just posted. I'd like to see a modified monastery model -- with monks doing serious research with Cray Supercomputers. Who knows? They might already do this -- when no one is looking. The monks probably rule the solar system!
Regarding the large object at the edge of the solar system. It sounded as though they were saying that this object was not advancing toward the center of the solar system. Some time ago, I suggested the possibility, that if Nibiru (or equivalent) was piloted, that it might take up an orbit safely (1 astronomical unit) beyond the orbit of Pluto -- and become a part of the United States of the Solar System. Who knows? What if piloted objects already within the solar system are responsible for 'hurling' objects toward Earth? I have suggested that all those who intend to harm Earth should defect, and become part of the United States of the Solar System. I don't know if this would be possible or desirable. There might be beings who are 'unredeemable' at this point. I just don't know. Traditional theology teaches that there are demonic beings who have passed the point of no-return. For me, hope springs eternal -- but I don't know the whole story. This whole mess continues to be a big, stupid guessing-game.
Regarding the large object at the edge of the solar system. It sounded as though they were saying that this object was not advancing toward the center of the solar system. Some time ago, I suggested the possibility, that if Nibiru (or equivalent) was piloted, that it might take up an orbit safely (1 astronomical unit) beyond the orbit of Pluto -- and become a part of the United States of the Solar System. Who knows? What if piloted objects already within the solar system are responsible for 'hurling' objects toward Earth? I have suggested that all those who intend to harm Earth should defect, and become part of the United States of the Solar System. I don't know if this would be possible or desirable. There might be beings who are 'unredeemable' at this point. I just don't know. Traditional theology teaches that there are demonic beings who have passed the point of no-return. For me, hope springs eternal -- but I don't know the whole story. This whole mess continues to be a big, stupid guessing-game.
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metaw3 wrote:This is what Melancholia is about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI6A8EOFAKU
What's interesting is that it's a Lars Von Trier movie (Breaking the Waves, Dogville). It's not your typical Hollywoood movie
Thank you metaw I watched it tonight.
The blue star kachina must have crossed Lars Von Trier's mind ...
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Glad you enjoyed Arvo Part's music Oxy .
The future is'nt written in stone but I believe somewhere in the music of the stars.
If there is somewhere this transition leads us I make the wish that everyone will find himself on a vibratory plane and settings that are dear to their Heart.
Love for You
mudra
The future is'nt written in stone but I believe somewhere in the music of the stars.
If there is somewhere this transition leads us I make the wish that everyone will find himself on a vibratory plane and settings that are dear to their Heart.
Love for You
mudra