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    Do You Really Want To Live in a Physical Body Forever?

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    Post  Carol Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:09 am

    Do You Really Want To Live in a Physical Body Forever? ?m=02&d=20110704&t=2&i=452004540&w=460&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=2011-07-04T131029Z_01_BTRE76310LV00_RTROPTP_0_GERMANY
    Who wants to live forever? Scientist sees aging cured
    (Reuters) - If Aubrey de Grey's predictions are right, the first person who will live to see their 150th birthday has already been born. And the first person to live for 1,000 years could be less than 20 years younger.

    A biomedical gerontologist and chief scientist of a foundation dedicated to longevity research, de Grey reckons that within his own lifetime doctors could have all the tools they need to "cure" aging -- banishing diseases that come with it and extending life indefinitely.

    "I'd say we have a 50/50 chance of bringing aging under what I'd call a decisive level of medical control within the next 25 years or so," de Grey said in an interview before delivering a lecture at Britain's Royal Institution academy of science.

    "And what I mean by decisive is the same sort of medical control that we have over most infectious diseases today."

    De Grey sees a time when people will go to their doctors for regular "maintenance," which by then will include gene therapies, stem cell therapies, immune stimulation and a range of other advanced medical techniques to keep them in good shape.

    De Grey lives near Cambridge University where he won his doctorate in 2000 and is chief scientific officer of the non-profit California-based SENS (Strategies for Engineered Negligible Senescence) Foundation, which he co-founded in 2009.

    He describes aging as the lifelong accumulation of various types of molecular and cellular damage throughout the body.

    "The idea is to engage in what you might call preventative geriatrics, where you go in to periodically repair that molecular and cellular damage before it gets to the level of abundance that is pathogenic," he explained.

    CHALLENGE

    Exactly how far and how fast life expectancy will increase in the future is a subject of some debate, but the trend is clear. An average of three months is being added to life expectancy every year at the moment and experts estimate there could be a million centenarians across the world by 2030.

    To date, the world's longest-living person on record lived to 122 and in Japan alone there were more than 44,000 centenarians in 2010.

    Some researchers say, however, that the trend toward longer lifespan may falter due to an epidemic of obesity now spilling over from rich nations into the developing world.

    De Grey's ideas may seem far-fetched, but $20,000 offered in 2005 by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) Technology Review journal for any molecular biologist who showed that de Grey's SENS theory was "so wrong that it was unworthy of learned debate" was never won.

    The judges on that panel were prompted into action by an angry put-down of de Grey from a group of nine leading scientists who dismissed his work as "pseudo science."

    They concluded that this label was not fair, arguing instead that SENS "exists in a middle ground of yet-to-be-tested ideas that some people may find intriguing but which others are free to doubt."

    CELL THERAPY

    For some, the prospect of living for hundreds of years is not particularly attractive, either, as it conjures up an image of generations of sick, weak old people and societies increasingly less able to cope.

    But de Grey says that's not what he's working for. Keeping the killer diseases of old age at bay is the primary focus.

    "This is absolutely not a matter of keeping people alive in a bad state of health," he told Reuters. "This is about preventing people from getting sick as a result of old age. The particular therapies that we are working on will only deliver long life as a side effect of delivering better health."

    De Grey divides the damage caused by aging into seven main categories for which repair techniques need to be developed if his prediction for continual maintenance is to come true.

    He notes that while for some categories, the science is still in its earliest stages, there are others where it's already almost there.

    "Stem cell therapy is a big part of this. It's designed to reverse one type of damage, namely the loss of cells when cells die and are not automatically replaced, and it's already in clinical trials (in humans)," he said.

    Stem cell therapies are currently being trialed in people with spinal cord injuries, and de Grey and others say they may one day be used to find ways to repair disease-damaged brains and hearts.

    NO AGE LIMIT

    Cardiovascular diseases are the world's biggest age-related killers and de Grey says there is a long way to go on these though researchers have figured out the path to follow.

    Heart diseases that cause heart failure, heart attacks and strokes are brought about by the accumulation of certain types of what de Grey calls "molecular garbage" -- byproducts of the body's metabolic processes -- which our bodies are not able to break down or excrete.

    "The garbage accumulates inside the cell, and eventually it gets in the way of the cell's workings," he said.

    De Grey is working with colleagues in the United States to identify enzymes in other species that can break down the garbage and clean out the cells -- and the aim then is to devise genetic therapies to give this capability to humans.

    "If we could do that in the case of certain modified forms of cholesterol which accumulate in cells of the artery wall, then we simply would not get cardiovascular disease," he said.

    De Grey is reluctant to make firm predictions about how long people will be able to live in future, but he does say that with each major advance in longevity, scientists will buy more time to make yet more scientific progress.

    In his view, this means that the first person who will live to 1,000 is likely to be born less than 20 years after the first person to reach 150.

    "I call it longevity escape velocity -- where we have a sufficiently comprehensive panel of therapies to enable us to push back the ill health of old age faster than time is passing. And that way, we buy ourselves enough time to develop more therapies further as time goes on," he said.

    "What we can actually predict in terms of how long people will live is absolutely nothing, because it will be determined by the risk of death from other causes like accidents," he said.

    "But there really shouldn't be any limit imposed by how long ago you were born. The whole point of maintenance is that it works indefinitely."

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/04/us-ageing-cure-idUSTRE7632ID20110704


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    Post  Sanicle Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:18 am

    If that physical body can be transmuted it would be OK, but not as it is.....plain old 3D.
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    Post  Carol Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:58 am

    I'm more for transfiguration Sanicle. Then your form can cross dimensions, space and time. I've read of the following from a contactee a number of years ago where some time travelers showed up at the local bar near area 51 and spoke of this. Perhaps if one were in perfect health something like this may be desirable. However, having experience inter-dimensional travel sans physical form -the beauty there literally outshines here. Besides, who wants to live in a world or universe where there is constant conflict and war? We call death - the optimal escape plan.

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    A chilling recipe for eternal life
    What if it takes one single pill to rewind your clock of life? No more health issues, you are no longer getting old… Impossible? According to KrioRus, not in the future. And as the Russian cryonics firm insists, they have the way of taking you there.

    Panacea pill
    Speaking in an out-of-town, somewhat shabby storage facility that belongs to KrioRus, Danila Medvedev, the head of the company’s board of directors, was putting all his effort into trying to assure me that rejuvenation is not going to be a problem in the future.

    “Aging is a problem of today, because we don’t know how it works,” Dr. Medvedev begins. “In 100 years or so it will only take one single pill to alter the epigenetic regulation in all cells of your body in accordance with a required program.”

    For someone with a degree in economics, Medvedev, who also introduced himself as a futurologist and a member of the co-ordination board of the Russian Transhumanist Movement, seemed to feel, perhaps, too comfortable going deep into such details of various molecular processes occurring in our organism. Being a molecular geneticist myself, I was truly impressed.

    “In other words,” he continued, “the smart pill, depending on how exactly you are aging, will make, for instance, liver cells increase the expression of a particular gene three-fold, while nanocapsules with necessary proteins will do their job and activate the required genes. If you have excess fat deposits in your body, the cells of fat will be instructed to dedifferentiate into stem cells and creep away to where they are needed to increase regeneration processes, and so on.”
    Any person who takes such a pill, Dr. Medvedev predicts, will become young again in a week’s time.

    “Your bones will regenerate, your skin will regenerate – it will start producing collagen again, and your wrinkles will disappear. The brain will become more powerful, as it will now be producing all sorts of useful, necessary chemicals – so, you’ll be even cleverer than before. And all this – even without any physical manipulations,” the head of KrioRus concluded.

    Getting to the future
    Disputes over the potential of future technologies may last as long as it takes to create a technology itself. For this reason, let us save ourselves some time and imagine that everything is going to be exactly as Dr. Medvedev predicts. After all, could Swiss physician Friedrich Miescher have dreamt of anything like genetic engineering or gene therapy when, back in1869, he discovered in a pus sample what later became known as DNA?

    And yet, no matter how happy we can be for our future generations, it would be even better to find yourself among the lucky ones – those with the Magic Pill in a prescription from their family doctor. However, with the time machine being out of the question for another… well, perhaps, forever, what other ways of getting into this glorious future can we count on?

    Read more at http://rt.com/news/future-kriorus-medvedev-cryonics/


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    Post  Carol Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:08 am

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    Operation Phoenix: science fiction or science fact?
    With the rapid progress of biotechnology and with more genomes being deciphered in full, scientists begin to speculate that someday we may be able to help bring extinct species back into existence.

    Any text can be written with the use of the same limited number of letters of the alphabet – from a cookbook to a novel. In this way, the letters of the alphabet can be formed into words, and words have meaning…

    In a similar manner, all information about any organism is “written” into its DNA in the form of a universal genetic code – a combination of certain molecules (or “letters”) making up the “words” and “sentences” of a chain-like DNA molecule.

    Therefore, one may suggest that knowing the entire genetic code of some creature would automatically provide a recipe for making it. Unfortunately, things appear to be more complicated in the real world…

    Since November 2008, when a joint team of American and Russian scientists published the near-complete DNA sequence of the extinct woolly mammoth in the Nature scientific journal, there has been a lot of speculation as to whether this astonishing creature, along with many others, could be brought back to life.

    The New Scientist magazine went further, providing the potential “recipe” for reviving species from the dead.

    The sad truth, though, is that creating a living creature from a virtual genome sequence is not possible right now…

    However, the rapid progress in biotechnology gives hope, and the tempting idea of reviving some of those stunning beasts that once walked the Earth will certainly find its pioneers. After all, a few decades ago, cloning mammals or the possibility of sequencing entire genomes would have seemed science fiction.

    Read more at http://rt.com/news/sci-tech/operation-phoenix-science-fiction-or-science-fact/


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