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    Post  Carol Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:15 am

    The ET Agenda This thread deals with various Contactees, Abductees and Professionals in the Uflology field reports on the ET AGENDA. It includes the good, the bad and the ugly.


    James Casbold, reports on Mind Control, genetic engineering and negative ET control over governments and citizens
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/7476175/James-Casbolt-MI6Agent-Buried-Alive-Chaptgers-17

    Coast to Coast 12-14-10 - Host: George Noory - Guests: Len Kasten
    During the middle two hours, researcher Len Kasten discussed his research into UFOs and the alien agenda. Kasten said his interest in UFOs began at Eglin Air Force Base, where one night he witnessed a glowing green and gold craft moving swiftly and silently over the Gulf of Mexico. The sighting was confirmed the next day by radar operators and reported to a superior in the aptly titled 'UFO Office', he noted. Some years after Kasten's initial encounter, he began looking into the extraterrestrial presence on our planet.

    According to Kasten, a malevolent alien race with whom Hitler had allied himself, and perhaps themselves bent on world domination, helped the Nazis develop flying saucer technology during World War II. After the war, in 1946, the U.S. launched a covert military action against an alleged secret underground Nazi base in Antarctica, where the troops were greeted by flying saucers from the ocean, he continued. The extraterrestrials warned American forces to never again return to Antarctica with weapons, Kasten added.

    In 1954, shortly after rejecting a deal with a benevolent race known as the Pleiadians, President Eisenhower made his own arrangement with less kind aliens, Kasten revealed. Under the Treaty of Graeda, the Grays promised to help advance technology and weapons development in America in exchange for freedom to abduct the country's citizen, Kasten said. The ETs used these human abductees in a Hybrid Project, he asserted, noting that the aliens were part of a dying race.

    Kasten believes several subsequent presidents were made aware of the government’s dealings with aliens, and even suggested a possible connection between Project Serpo and the Kennedy assassination. Despite so much ET interaction over the decades, Kasten does not think the U.S. government will ever disclose their existence to the public -- which is a shame, as an alignment with good aliens could bring about paradise on Earth, he said.


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    Post  TRANCOSO Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:07 pm

    No offence, but this is 'old' news.
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    Post  Carol Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:39 am

    His message is old news for a number of us and for others perhaps it is new info for them.

    ET Hybrids / Ultraterrestrials
    The following is from Coast 12/19/10
    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2010/12/19

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    In the first half of the show, alien abduction researcher Dr. David Jacobs joined George Knapp for a discussion on ET hybrids
    as well as the recent attacks on his work. He made the case that, based on the evolution of what has been learned about abductions, the purpose of the phenomena is ultimately for ET hybrids to be integrated into our society. Jacobs noted that the timetable for this integration had seemed nebulous until around 2003, when he began hearing from abductees that "they were here." So cumulative were these reports that Jacobs concluded that "not only is it happening soon, it's happening now." While he admitted that the agenda behind the hybrid integration remains a mystery, Jacobs was suspicious of it because of the ETs' clandestine nature and that, given their apparent abilities to control human minds, this hybridization has the potential to "make us a second class species."

    Regarding the recent criticisms of his work by a former research subject, Jacobs said that "I'm not embroiled in a fight, I'm just sitting back and watching this thing swirl around." He responded to the critique that, as a historian, he is not qualified to use hypnosis on potential abductees by contending that the abduction phenomenon is so unique and specialized that "regular hypnotists cannot do this." To that end, he said that hypnotists and people in the mental health field often "throw up their hands and don't know what to do" with potential abductees and, in turn, refer them to him. As such, he asserted that one person's criticism of his methods should "absolutely not" call into question the legitimacy of hypnosis being used in abduction research. Despite that, he lamented that the "diabolical aspect" of these recent criticisms is that they do indeed threaten to "sully all of hypnosis and all of abductions."

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    In the latter half of the program, Ufologist Philip Imbrogno talked about his theory of ultraterrestrials and how it constitutes a radical new quantum approach to understanding the contact phenomenon. In contrast to "extraterrestrial," which he said has become synonymous with simply aliens from another planet, Imbrogno defined "ultraterrestrial" as "anything outside of our physical reality" and, thus, encompasses entities from other dimensions and parallel worlds. He explained that his work aims to "combine string theory and quantum physics into the paranormal." By doing this, Imbrogno said, the enigmatic nature of the paranormal becomes more palatable as it can be viewed in the context of these emerging sciences.

    As an example of the ultraterrestrials, Imbrogno shared the story of famed explorer Henry Hudson's encounter with little gnome-like entities in 1609. While exploring the river that would eventually bear his name, Hudson was warned by Native Americans to avoid the "little men" in the nearby mountains. One night during the expedition, he heard music and saw flashes of light coming from a mountain top. Deciding to investigate, Hudson and his men climbed the mountain and discovered a party of gnomes that were dancing around the fire and playing games. Welcomed by the little people, Hudson was told that they were from "somewhere else" and that they come into our world every twenty years. Though this may seem like simple folklore, Imbrogno observed that similar stories of celebratory gnomes in the region seem to resurface every twenty years and there were even reports as recently as 2009.



    The Threat in PDF format (all 189 pages): https://www.dmt-nexus.com/Files/Books/General/David%20Jacobs%20-%20The%20Threat.pdf
    http://www.ufoabduction.com/

    On a personal note based on inside info about Dr. Jacobs I seriously suspect he has been compromised on a number of levels and his source of funding is suspect. However, The Threat (based on abductee hypnosis sessions) is still a good read and has been validated by a number of other abductee/contactees. This pertains primarily to the Grays and their hybridization project with intentions to take over the planet after global earth changes. On one timeline they are successful and will do this.

    Links for articles by Philip J. Imbrogno are here: http://www.llewellyn.com/author.php?author_id=1324


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    Post  Carol Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:49 am

    Another ET Coast show The ET Agenda
    Date: 12-14-10 - Host: George Noory - Guest: Len Kasten

    During the middle two hours, researcher Len Kasten discussed his research into UFOs and the alien agenda. Kasten said his interest in UFOs began at Eglin Air Force Base, where one night he witnessed a glowing green and gold craft moving swiftly and silently over the Gulf of Mexico. The sighting was confirmed the next day by radar operators and reported to a superior in the aptly titled 'UFO Office', he noted. Some years after Kasten's initial encounter, he began looking into the extraterrestrial presence on our planet.

    According to Kasten, a malevolent alien race with whom Hitler had allied himself, and perhaps themselves bent on world domination, helped the Nazis develop flying saucer technology during World War II. After the war, in 1946, the U.S. launched a covert military action against an alleged secret underground Nazi base in Antarctica, where the troops were greeted by flying saucers from the ocean, he continued. The extraterrestrials warned American forces to never again return to Antarctica with weapons, Kasten added.

    In 1954, shortly after rejecting a deal with a benevolent race known as the Pleiadians, President Eisenhower made his own arrangement with less kind aliens, Kasten revealed. Under the Treaty of Graeda, the Grays promised to help advance technology and weapons development in America in exchange for freedom to abduct the country's citizen, Kasten said. The ETs used these human abductees in a Hybrid Project, he asserted, noting that the aliens were part of a dying race.


    Kasten believes several subsequent presidents were made aware of the government’s dealings with aliens, and even suggested a possible connection between Project Serpo and the Kennedy assassination. Despite so much ET interaction over the decades, Kasten does not think the U.S. government will ever disclose their existence to the public -- which is a shame, as an alignment with good aliens could bring about paradise on Earth, he said.

    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2010/12/14
    http://www.et-secrethistory.com/

    http://www.et-secrethistory.com/about.html

    Chapter 19 "The Hybrid Project"
    The aliens evidently fertilize the egg in their laboratory, and somehow splice into the egg the alien genetic component. According to Colonel Donald Ware, they apparently can choose from a “menu” of alien genetic materials to produce hybrid children with more or less alien characteristics and the precise combination they are seeking. According to Dr. Mack they have now perfected their procedures after years of experimentation. Thus they know in advance exactly how “strange” the hybrid child will appear in human society. They then abduct the female from whom they have taken the egg, a second time. This time they implant the fertilized embryo into her uterus. According to Dr. Jacobs in Secret Life, “Usually the woman knows that something is being inserted into her and left there. She receives the impression that she is now pregnant. She does not want to be pregnant, and she certainly does not want to be pregnant under those circumstances. The Beings ignore her objections.” The final step in this reproductive process is the removal of the fetus. This procedure is sometimes painful. Dr. Jacobs’ subject, Lynn Miller, says the taller “doctor-type” alien poked her in the side and said, “It’s time to take it.” Then he inserted a long black instrument with a cup on the end, which seemed to cause suction. She says, “It feels like he’s tearing something inside at first...they’re not too gentle. I keep on telling them that it hurts.” Dr. Jacobs asked, “Does he try to make it stop hurting?” She said, “No.”

    From reading the excerpts of Len Kasten's book, it appears to have a good overview of information currently in the field.


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    Post  Carol Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:12 am

    Alien Abduction
    Date: 11-28-10 Host: George Knapp - Guests: Budd Hopkins

    Joining George Knapp in the first half of the show, legendary ufologist Budd Hopkins talked about his life and his pioneering investigation into the alien abduction phenomenon. Although he has been researching abductions over 30 years ago, Hopkins noted that he is still getting new cases and hearing from new abductees. "The abduction phenomenon is not dropping off or anything like that," he observed, ." "it's still, unfortunately, very activeOn how best to unlock the mystery of UFOs, Hopkins opined that, rather than a strictly scientific or spiritual examination of the issue, "this is so complex a phenomenon that any way we can get at it is worth trying." Beyond just the enigmatic nature of UFOs, Hopkins contended that the abduction phenomenon is so troubling that "we're in a situation where we need every single thing we can get and every person with good ideas."

    Reflecting on the nature of abductions, as a whole, Hopkins lamented that "the whole thing is a lot more ominous than I allow myself to think, when my thoughts go in that direction." Based on his extensive research into the UFO phenomenon and abductions in particular, he declared that "there's no way to say that 'they' have done good." Regarding the concept of disclosure, Hopkins theorized that acceptance of the UFO phenomenon will happen on a grassroots level and grow until the government is forced to say something about it. "Although, I don't know what that statement could be," he mused, since "the cards are all in the hands of the UFO occupants." Expressing hope for some "simple" solution to defending the human race against these nefarious visitors, Hopkins ultimately conceded that "this is not some sort of competition we're going to win." Over the course of his appearance, Hopkins also talked about famous abduction cases, his response to skeptics, and his experiences working with a variety of media outlets.

    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2010/11/28
    http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/

    Personal note: Bud Hopkins IMPO has also been compromised with respect to his report and/or info on some of the people who were actaully on the scene as I have first hand audio transcripts and DVD of some of the notables he attempts to discredit in some of his other reports.



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    Post  Carol Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:27 am

    Planet X & Pole Shift

    Date: 11-18-10 Host: George Noory Guests: Gordon James Gianninoto
    Attorney, contractor, and ET contactee Gordon James Gianninoto discussed what he knows about Planet X and the coming pole shift and how the government is covering up an imminent global catastrophe. NASA, he said, has known for decades about the rogue body (known as Nibiru or Planet X) and it has shown up in photos taken by their SOHO satellite cameras over the last 7 years. It's in the plane of the ecliptic (Earth's orbit around the Sun), is four times the size of Earth, has hundreds of moons, and is occupied by "selfish extraterrestrials" (the ones Zecharia Sitchin wrote about), he claimed.

    Planet X can be seen "to the left of the sun at sunrise, and to the lower right of the sun at sunset," he continued. The incoming planet will cause a pole shift, with the Pacific narrowing, the Atlantic widening, and South America rotating around, submerging the Caribbean, said Gianninoto. The western side of Australia, Indonesia, Southeast Asia, and all of India will also be submerged, and in America, the Mississippi River will grow as wide as 100 to 200 miles across, he added.

    Citing the writings of alien contactee, Nancy Lieder, he warned there would be a precursor event to the pole shift that would likely occur before the end of the year, possibly huge earthquakes in Japan or along the New Madrid fault in the US. According to Gianninoto, there are more than six billion alien hybrids in "invisible 4th dimensional domed cities, under oceans, and in motherships," waiting to emerge after the pole shift.
    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2010/11/18

    THE ET AGENDA Gianninoto-Images-I

    THE ET AGENDA Gianninoto-Images-II
    The globe in the second image depicts where the new North Pole will be (off of Brazil) after the Pole Shift.


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    Post  Carol Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:34 am

    Time Travel & Teleportation
    Date: 11-11-10 Host: George Noory - Guests: Andrew D. Basiago

    Part of DARPA’s Project Pegasus as a young child, and now a practicing attorney, Andrew D. Basiago seeks to end the U.S. government's time travel cover-up. He claims to be one of America's early time-space explorers, and revealed his experiences with time travel research and development. As one of 140 American children involved with experiments with teleportation, during the late 1960s, he said the government was interested in developing a technology to transport the President and his family in urgent situations, and wanted to test the mental and physical effects. The teleporter consisted of "two parentheses-shaped objects about 8 ft. tall," around 10 ft. apart from each other, and inside the interior of the armatures were "tiny little ports that were generating a blue-green light." Between the armatures was a tuned-in field of radiant energy that the subjects leaped through, he detailed.

    Via a device called a chronovisor, which generates a hologram, Basiago claimed he was sent back to around 1 million BC, a hot red-earth environment, where huge dinosaurs roamed. Later, he was teleported to the year 2045, to pick up intelligence data on the years between the 1970s and the 2040s, he said. Interestingly, the year 2045 was a time of peace and environmental stability, he noted. He referred to another type of technology to time travel to the past called Plasma Confinement, which allowed him to visit Gettysburg in 1863 to see Lincoln's speech (see article below).

    We need to adopt teleportation in the 21st century "as our principle means of long distance transport, simply to survive as a planetary civilization," he commented. Basiago will be presenting a lecture in Port Townsend, WA on November 20th. More of his intriguing story is recapped in his C2C appearance from last year.
    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2010/11/11
    http://www.projectpegasus.net/


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    Post  MargueriteBee Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:12 pm

    Thank you for posting these Carol, very interesting. Glad I'm not on their timeline. cheers
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    Post  TRANCOSO Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:22 pm

    TRANCOSO wrote:No offence, but this is 'old' news.
    Carol wrote:His message is old news for a number of us and for others perhaps it is new info for them.
    You are 100.000% right.
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    Post  TRANCOSO Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:25 pm

    MargueriteBee wrote:Thank you for posting these Carol, very interesting. Glad I'm not on their timeline. cheers
    Beautiful avatar Margue.
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    Post  Carol Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:24 pm

    Time Traveler Andrew D. Basiago, the founder and president of MARS and team leader of Project Pegasus, is a lawyer, writer, scholar, and 21st century visionary. Andy is an emerging figure in the Truth Movement leading a campaign to lobby the US government to disclose such controversial truths as the fact that Mars harbors life and that the US has achieved “quantum access” to past and future events. He has been identified as the first of two "planetary whistle blowers" predicted by the Web Bot, which analyzes the content of the World Wide Web to discern global trends. Andy’s writings place him at the forefront of contemporary Mars anomaly research. His paper "The Discovery of Life on Mars," published in 2008, was the first work to prove that Mars is an inhabited planet. After publishing this landmark paper, Andy founded the Mars Anomaly Research Society (MARS), which continues to make breathtaking discoveries of life forms and ancient artifacts on Mars. Andy is also one of America’s early time-space explorers. In the late 1960s and early 1970s, he was a child participant in the time-space exploration program of the US defense-technical community, "Project Pegasus."

    link to show: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/mz-mugzzi/2010/12/21/time-traveler-andrew-basiago-shares-experiences-of

    website: http://www.projectpegasus.net/



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    Post  Carol Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:25 pm

    Italy’s Disclosure of Human Looking Aliens - “The Timing is the Thing” & “Exclusive Interview with Maurizio Cavallo” by Paola Leopizzi Harris, M.Ed.
    http://www.exopoliticsjournal.com/vol-2/vol-2-2-Harris.pdf

    This is the story o Maruizio Cavallo in Italy and pictures of his alien human-looking contacts. Maruizio was also taken to an underwater alien base and has a very interesting story.




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    Post  Carol Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:22 pm

    Space Wars with ET. It was during this time that HD was saying there were space wars overhead. When questioned as to who he said it was the Annunaki fighting over who will have control over humankind. Gary McKinnon, a hacker who was merely looking for evidence of free energy suppression and a cover-up of UFO activity stumbled upon something quite interesting. In his interview with the BBC he also claimed of "The Disclosure Project" that "they are some very credible, relied-upon people, all saying yes, there is UFO technology, there's anti-gravity, there's free energy, and it's extraterrestrial in origin and [they've] captured spacecraft and reverse engineered it." He said he investigated a NASA photographic expert's claim that at the Johnson Space Center's Building 8, images were regularly cleaned of evidence of UFO craft, and confirmed this, comparing the raw originals with the "processed" images. He claimed to have viewed a detailed image of "something not man-made" and "cigar shaped" floating above the northern hemisphere, and assuming his viewing would be undisrupted owing to the hour, he did not think of capturing the image because he was "bedazzled", and therefore did not think of securing it with the screen capture function in the software at the point when his connection was interrupted.[40] McKinnon stated the image was approximately 256 megabytes in size, yet that the craft's details were still distinct in the greatly inferior 4-bit color and low resolution he had to reduce the viewing image to appear across his mere 56k modem connection (approximate transfer rate 5.4 KB/s). Basically he discovered evidence of the US secret space program its space fleet. "McKinnon said he was eventually able to access the US’ Space Command network, where he found evidence of an extra terrestrial mission.

    “I found a list of officers’ names,” he claims, “under the heading ‘Non-Terrestrial Officers’… What I think it means is not earth-based. I found a list of ‘fleet-to-fleet transfers’ and a list of ship names. I looked them up. They weren’t U.S. Navy ships. What I saw made me believe they have some kind of spaceship, off-planet.”


    This is a thread at AV1 from 2/20/09 http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11397

    BIZARRE EVENTS - all within a week
    Within the last week or so, there have been several extremely odd things happen. Individually, they're pretty astounding - all happening within such a short amount of time is even more noteworthy.

    A few days ago I watched/listened to a Coast to Coast broadcast posted on February 13th (not sure when it was actually recorded) interviewing Ed Grimsley. He's been focusing his attention to the night sky, and with the use of night vision goggles he's seeing and documenting what appears to be a war taking place between many vehicles of varying sizes. Shots can be detected between the crafts and this interview is giving you a little one on one time with what he's been doing.

    On February 10th two satellites collided. Russian, U.S. satellites collide in space
    On February 16th two Submarines collide in Atlantic

    On February 15th , some kind of 'fireball' was seen in the Texas skies.
    In the following video you'll hear CNN report that while a fireball was reported, that nothing actually hit the ground: Texas fireball caught on video

    But in this video, you'll hear something a little different. The initial reports said that it was in fact an unidentified flying object in that the FAA could not say what it was and that many reported seeing . . whatever it was "slam into the earth."

    On February 18th a metal object the size of a brick crashes through the roof of a business in New Jersey. This article reports that the metal was too hot to touch for about thirty minutes after landing. This article shows you a pic of the object and gives the explanation offered elsewhere now, as well - that the piece is from a wood chipper. I can't find the initial report that I read, but it was definitely white hot. Subsequent articles are referring to it as "warm" while only a few might mention that it was too hot to handle for 30 minutes.

    I've got a really hard time swallowing the idea that a wood chipper, no matter how strong, has got what it takes to launch something that far into our atmosphere. In order to achieve that kind of heat ("couldn't touch it for 30 minutes")? Is it possible for a machine to catapult something of that size and weight, without a propulsion system that high? I don't think so, but I'm open to being wrong. Anyone with a physics background want to address this one?

    And finally - On February 19, Huge gamma-ray blast spotted 12.2 bln light-years from earth


    What's going on?

    I expect the media to lie. What's more interesting to me is the contradictions and intentional misdirection of what experts say is happening. All paid puppets, as far as I'm concerned. I think something is going on. And I think those collisions were done to us, not a freak accident. Any thoughts? I'm dying to have someone show me what that piece is from a wood chipper, btw - or confirm or dismiss the catapulting dilema.


    So, if one accepts that the US and very likely other nations really do have anti-gravity back engineered space craft where are they? Is it possible that they are already in space and active? Is it possible that a space war is already going on?

    Those who have night vision goggles claim to see some night sky action. So who are they really? And what is that all about?


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    Post  Carol Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:40 pm

    THE ET AGENDA Bettywithbust
    Bust of Betty Hill's Alien Astronaut
    Contactee Sept. 19, 1961


    http://www.ufocasebook.com/hillabduction.html

    The Hills’ story was documented (Portsmouth, New Hampshire?) in John Fuller’s best-selling book Interrupted Journey. Fuller learned of the Hills while researching his book Incident in Exeter, about Norman Muscarello, who saw a UFO in Exeter in 1965. Muscarello, an Exeter resident, passed away this past week. Betty said she didn’t know him well, but was sorry to hear of his death. The pair were kindred members of a galactic club.

    Interrupted Journey became a made-for-TV movie in 1975. James Earl Jones played Barney and Betty was played by Estelle Parsons. Film critic Leonard Maltin rated the film as above-average and called it "absorbing" and "fact-based." He did say it lacked action though. Barney passed away in 1969. Betty, who turns 84 in June, has told their story across the world: from the Soviet Union to England, to the United States and Canada. The tale remains something out of this world.

    The Hills were returning from vacation in Canada on Sept. 19, 1961. They headed toward Portsmouth on Highway 3 through Lancaster in the state’s western panhandle. They saw a moving light in the sky as they approached Indian Head. Barney stopped the car but left the engine running and got out to look at the object with binoculars. He saw "5 to 11 figures moving behind a double row of windows" of some kind of craft.

    As the object closed, Barney ran back to the car exclaiming, "They are going to capture us!" The couple fled in the car at breakneck speed. Betty said the object moved directly over the car and they heard a loud noise ~ like the sound of a tuning fork ~ and then they were drowsy.

    They awoke some two hours later and found themselves driving near Ashland, about 35 miles south of Indian Head and about a 30-minute drive from Lancaster. Betty said they continued their drive, feeling uneasy and unsure. The Hills reported their experience to officials at Pease Air Force Base the day after. They were later interviewed by the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena.

    Soon after, Betty began having nightmares about that night. Anxiety led the Hills to seek help from Dr. Benjamin Simon, a Boston psychiatrist who specialized in treating amnesia through hypnotherapy. Simon’s help revealed many details of Barney and Betty's encounter that matched each other’s closely as well as Betty’s nightmares. From their hypnosis sessions Betty learned that a group of "men" stood in the middle of the road and stopped their car. Betty and Barney were taken aboard a disk-shaped craft and examined through hair and skin samples. Betty says the aliens did not all look alike. They were 4½- to 5-feet tall. "I’m not too accurate on their height, but they’re rugged. They’re not skinny guys."

    The Lost Betty Hill Interview
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g93YoWsHjU...player_embedded
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g93YoWsHjU

    From Betty Hill's Interview:

    On September 19, 1961, Betty and Barney Hill were driving down the highway from Canada heading south and crossed over the boarder into New Hampshire when they thought they saw this light following them at around 10:30 at night. When Betty saw a bright light in the sky she thought she was discovering a new planet, that is until it moved.

    They stopped the car to get out and look at what they thought was a plane and that is when it changed changed direction and came in towards them. It was flying in a very erratic manner which was very puzzling to them. According to Betty, they weren’t afraid, just curious trying to identify this craft. In the Indian Head area Betty was trying to attract attention of this UFO by leaning out the car window yelling up to them, “Come on down. Who are you…?"

    When the craft started to follow them they got frightened and for the next 20-30 minutes speeded away. The craft followed them for about 30 miles pacing their car. Frightened, Barney pulled off to the side of the road where they saw, what appeared to be a group men standing in the middle of the road.

    Betty said the alien astronauts verbally spoke and did not use telepathy. They didn’t all look alike as they had individual differences. No hair, larger eyes, no protruding ears, pronounced eyebrow ridge. Betty also said that this was how humans would look like in 25,000 years from now. These alien/astronauts invited Barney and Betty to come into their craft. Barney was under mind-control and followed complacently. However, Betty fought them off not wanting to enter the doorway to their craft. The alien/astronauts told Betty that they wanted to take some tests (basically perform a non-sexual medical exam).

    Dr. Simon used medical hypnosis, which is the type of hypnosis he used in surgery to help both Barney and Betty recall the blocked memories of the event. Betty never considered herself as an abductee and described the event as a meeting. She said she had a great time and was joking with her alien/astronaut contacts.

    Betty subsequently drew a star map of where her alien astronauts said they were from, which was later identified via an astrological investigation as Zeta Reticuli.

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    Post  Carol Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:44 pm

    THE ET AGENDA 48-NordicAliensI
    Nordics most human looking slightly taller, extremely athletic in build females well endowed,
    men look very handsome and are identified as the nordic/arian race forefathers.


    William McDonald ~ forensic reconstruction artist
    http://www.alienufoart.com/ForensicFaces.htm
    http://www.alienufoart.com/AlienArt1.htm
    http://www.alienufoart.com/AlienArt2.htm

    Nordic aliens (Aryan aliens) are said to be a group of humanoid extraterrestrials. They are so named because they are said to resemble Nordic, Scandinavian, or Aryan racial images.[1]

    Nordic aliens form a notable part of UFO/abduction belief and the contactee movement in European and Latin American nations, but are not commonly found in accounts from the US.[2][3] Owing to the writings of self-professed Ufologist and contactee Billy Meier, they are sometimes known as Pleiadeans or Errans, and are said to be from the Pleiades star cluster in the constellation of Taurus,[4] although they have been known by other names, and were originally said to come from Venus or other planets within the Solar System because of the claims of George Adamski.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_aliens

    There is an on-world presence of humanoid races that have historically assisted humanity in its evolutionary development. Such a race has been the remnants of the ancient Lemurian and Atlantean civilizations that established large crystalline cities inside the Earth's crust after abandoning their cities/civilizations established on the Earth's surface. They are a tall Nordic-looking race living in a subterranean city under the North Pole. Strictly speaking, this group is not extra-terrestrial in origin but simply a sub-terrestrial humanoid race that is genetically linked to humanity.

    Another group of extraterrestrials are off-world ETs that intervene to assist humanity in dealing with off-world ET races. This category is commonly described as 'Nordics' and 'Semites' that come from Altair Alpha Centauri, who are humanoid in appearance, between 7-8 feet in height. Altair's fourth and fifth planets are inhabited. In fact, the people from Altair colonized the Pleiades system long ago. The human-looking Pleiadean extraterrestrials are actually ancestrally Altairians. There are two variants, the Semitic-looking ones and the Nordic-looking ones.

    George Adamski
    George Adamski was one of the first contactees to report a description of UFO occupants. On 20 November 1952 he reportedly met and spoke with a being called Orthon, after seeing a UFO in Arizona. Adamski described him as looking human, with long, wavy, blond hair, and that "the beauty of his form surpassed anything I had ever seen." However, Orthon was not entirely human in appearance, having slightly slanted eyes. According to Adamski, Orthon said that he was from Venus.[9]

    Billy Meier
    Beginning in 1975, Billy Meier allegedly began his official contacts ("official" in that evidence was to be provided publicly, unlike earlier contacts), communicating both directly (face-to-face) and by telepathy with a core group of Nordic aliens called the Pleiadeans/Plejaren, or Errans as he also refers to them (Erra being their home planet), who gave their names as Ptaah, Semjase, Quetzal, and Pleija, among numerous others. According to Meier himself in the video documentary 'Contact', he says that his first contact with extraterrestrials began on January 28, 1975.[10]

    Howard Menger
    Howard Menger also claimed to have met Nordic aliens although his statements are controversial, as he retracted his story - then recanted his retraction.[11] Orfeo Angelucci and Elizabeth Klarer also described similar beings in their contact stories.

    Michael E. Salla (lives in Kona, Hawaii)
    In an interview with The Washington Post, Michael E. Salla suggested the possibility that in February 1954, at Edwards Air Force Base, United States President Dwight D. Eisenhower had met with some Nordics in an attempt to formulate an agreement over technology exchange, and the elimination of the American nuclear arsenal.[5]

    Cynthia Appleton
    British contactees included Cynthia Appleton in the late 1950s, who claimed that her son Matthew was fathered by a Venusian visitor, and Mollie Thompson a few years later, who also claimed a meeting with blond Venusians, and was sufficiently inspired by the experience to record several songs about it.[12][dead link]

    Jonathan Manner
    One of the few residents of the United States to have reportedly have gotten contact with the Nordic Aliens, he stated in an interview that, "The Veusians created the majority of Earth's species', and while trying to genetically engineer a super-race, accidentally replaced one of the growth hormones with some form of Nordic fecal matter and created the Jewish race. Jonathan is an active member of the Aryan Brotherhood and has also been arrested several times on battery charges related to antisemitism.[13]

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    The W56s - The story of “Friendship”

    Nikola Duper


    Sometimes life surprises us with unexpected developments. Many of you have known me as a humble researcher who studied the crop circle phenomenon. I have always taken a great interest in ufology, but I have never studied it in detail, and I could never be considered an expert. But thanks to the crop circles I got to know many people who study ufology, both in Italy and abroad. Maybe it was because of my activity in the field of mystery, and because of my knowledge of the UFO environment that some events with unpredictable aspects happened to me.

    In October 2008 a person got in touch with me who, having learned that I was interested in crop circles, wanted to make my acquaintance. I went to meet him, we talked for more than an hour and then this person asked me if I could help him divulge a very important story in an objective way. This person could not, for some reasons, come out in the open himself, thus he needed an intermediary. I answered I would be glad to do what I could and we agreed to meet again after a couple of months. Indeed we did meet in January 2009 and he told me he was one of the people directly involved in the so-called “Friendship” for a long part of his life. Once I got back home I checked the veracity of this story with some experts who confirmed that, as far as they could tell, it was true. At that point I had enough elements to take the story the person told me seriously, and, since I also was positively impressed by this person, I decided to help divulge this fascinating and important story.

    I am perfectly aware of the fact that I am risking the reputation I built up in years of work, but I'm doing it gladly. Sometimes you have to trust a person when you feel they deserve it.
    The following text has been given to me by the person who asked me to be his intermediary. He also asked me to respect his wish to remain anonymous for now, and to assure him that the text would not be inserted into a frame which would change its meaning, thus following the golden rule of good journalism. I accepted these two requests, and I will send the text to interested editors without any further comment.

    Enjoy your reading, and if this seems an interesting testimony to you, please spread the word.


    The story of “Friendship” -or simply “the story”, as we always called it- is a true one. It involved a group of Italian and non-Italian people for many years, between 1956 and 1990. Some of these people, including myself, are still alive. We had direct, face-to-face meetings with the Friends (also called W56), who are extraterrestrials coming both from planets in our own Galaxy (at a distance of one hundred thousand light years) and from other Galaxies. Here on the Earth they reached the maximum number of two hundred, living inside underground and undersea bases, some of them along the Adriatic coast, at a depth of about 20 km/12 miles. The first, “historical” base was located under the area of Ascoli Piceno, a small town in central Italy.

    Now, I shall briefly refer things that derive exclusively from what I was involved in personally, during an extensive part of my life, and from our direct conversations with the Friends. I have viva voce recordings of these, with the Friends’ own voices.

    “Friendship” gathers together various extraterrestrial populations that are different from each other, both as regards physical characteristics (there are tall, small and giant Friends, etc.) and provenance (there are Friends from other Universes and dimensions). However, all of them share a fundamental choice towards Good. “Friendship” is a sort of transversal confederation on the basis of a common ideal of life and thought, though great diversifications remain between populations and individuals and between personal choices. This is the very opposite of ideological standardization.


    The population whom we personally interacted with is composed of individuals (men and women, like us) who are physically very beautiful, some about three meters (ten feet) tall, while others are tiny. However, these are secondary aspects only. What is important is what they represent, beyond the various typologies and endless “folkloristic” singularities.

    The Friends are our elder brothers. They are human. Indeed, in comparison it’s we terrestrials who are less than human. They are much more human than we are, and that is why they do not show themselves. They are “too” human… For us it is easy to flatter them, but envying them is even easier, due to their perfect humaneness…

    Other populations in the Universes have chosen Evil, which is often represented by the adoration of Energy and Knowledge-Science. This dualism between Good and Evil is fundamental in order to understand both the still ongoing Struggle and why it is so hard for truth to be disclosed to the inhabitants of our planet.

    The Struggle between Good and Evil has always existed and is real, not an invention or a stage effect. (The wicked are not the result of a failed scientific experiment, but can freely choose to change and follow Good).

    This Struggle between Good and Evil also entered the life of the terrestrials in our group, and transformed them into “particular” beings.

    We had various types of experiences, both mental and moral and phenomenal (face-to-face encounters with some of the Friends, conversations with them, sightings of saucers and other flying objects with different shapes, very close sightings of materializations and dematerializations, visits and even long stays inside the underground bases, etc.). These marked our personal lives deeply and indelibly and caused us to become particularly vulnerable to the laws, regulations and conventions of our own reality and society where we continued to live and work -with the exception of a few of us who chose to spend the rest of their lives together with the Friends. What we experienced with the Friends goes beyond any imagination. As a consequence, absolute silence with other people has been the most normal reaction from us, together with our continuous thinking about our experiences over the decades. It was, and still is, a kind of “mental mulling” and constantly growing awareness of what happened, together with the realization that it cannot easily be put into words. Some of us paid a very high price for our being “singled out”, and abandoned established work and social life patterns.

    Some of us kept it a total or almost total secret, only opening up to a very few people. Others told the “story”, but gave a partial or modified version of it on purpose. Why? There are many reasons and they are complex because there are things one just cannot say even when one has decided to speak out. Furthermore, much of the information has been heavily distorted, trivialized, manipulated and interpreted in arbitrary ways. There has also been contradictory information given, so that a thing has been said and immediately afterwards contradicted -thus generating doubts and, in the end, incredulity on the part of the readers or listeners. This has also touched the fundamental aspects and reasons for the Friends’ presence among us, and that is why it is now necessary to intervene, rectifying and above all giving the essential points that have not yet been told and denouncing where the opposite has been claimed.

    The point is that this “story” and its implications are very complex, where ambiguity, voluntary or involuntary disinformation and a mixture of true and false play a highly important role. Inserting just one obviously unreliable element -for instance, something self-contradictory or ridiculous- into a story which is true makes the whole thing look unreliable (which may indeed well be the conscious or unconscious aim of the person who relates the story). This is not accidental, and does not solely depend upon the “bad intention” of the person who writes or speaks out or “reveals” or pretends to be a protagonist while he/she merely has second or third-hand knowledge of the subject. On the contrary, this is the consequence of one of the laws that regulate the hidden presence of the Friends on Earth. And this is how it has always been, in the past as well as now. The presence of the Friends among us is subordinated to certain laws that depend on factors that are hard to explain in words for they belong to the subtle levels -that is, the non-physical levels of reality. Among these there is the law of ambiguity, duplicity and deception since this characterizes the condition of terrestrial humans. Thus, all these “negative” elements are not secondary, but are a crucial part of the rules of the game, and can come into play at any moment, including the moment when an attempt towards disclosure is being made -such as at this present moment.

    The Friends are not the only extraterrestrials who have come to the Earth. Individuals from various other populations are among us, because the Earth is a very particular planet inside the economy of this part of the Universe. The aim of the Friends’ presence is not to study us (they know us quite well, better than we do ourselves!), but to help us. In fact, the Friends are unhappy about the very high level of hate, violence and injustice on the Earth, and about the anti-humanistic trend of our science and technology. Being able to see our thoughts and feelings, the Friends see what we hide behind our masks, words and smiles…

    Other populations are here for other reasons, and the abduction by extraterrestrials of terrestrials, as well as the creation of hybrids, is a reality which the Friends told us about as far back as the ’60s. I mention this because today there is talk in the media about it, and I remember what the Friends said so many years ago. However, I know nothing about many of the other things I hear about, and I have no opinion to give, because the Friends did not mention them. For instance, I know nothing about the crop circles. The Friends told us a lot and yet they told us only a very small part of what they knew, including what they knew about the activities of other populations among us. Actually, I find it hard enough to understand and “digest” the events I saw and those the Friends spoke about, let alone all the rest they could have told us… However, I believe they gave me the essentials in order to understand and orient myself, things that are true and not just “information”.

    I say that these things are true because I had a personal relationship with the Friends and had the strong feeling that they were telling me the truth -such as when you feel that your best friend or your lover is telling you the truth. This has been the luck in my life: thanks to that personal relationship, I was and am able to trust, in a field where trusting is quite difficult. Today, so-called “objective” evidence (pictures, etc.) can be altered or created by means of technology, so the factor of personal reliable witness is even more important than in the past.

    Compared with all the other populations visiting the Earth, the Friends have a quite peculiar and precious characteristic to offer us: they have a very special and close connection with the subtle levels that regulate the destiny of the Earth and with what they call the Soul of the Universe, beyond the physical or phenomenal level. Thus, the Friends have a sort of general control over everything that occurs, but they are only allowed to intervene under particular conditions. Everything happens as in an extremely elaborate chess game, with rules that I cannot even touch upon here.

    The Friends refer to themselves not as belonging to the world of the Spirit, but as those who <<come just after the world of the Spirit>>. They also say they are the <<forerunners of the world of the Spirit>>. In other words, they place themselves as intermediaries between us and the world of the Spirit.

    Compared with the science and technology of the other extraterrestrial populations, the Friends’ science and technology is quite different and singular, because it is shaped upon the laws of the world of the Spirit. It is a science and technology that has no connection at all with ours, including the most innovative aspects of our quantum physics. Yet, the Friends also have another -and more “usual”- science and technology, which they tried partially to share with us, especially in the field of electromagnetism. But this aroused feelings of avidity, possession, competition and omnipotence in us, so the Friends retired from this sharing project.

    The Friends have won a great war in the Universe against the Evil populations, but the game on the Earth is still completely open. Both the minds of us terrestrials in the group, forever linked to the Friends by an ancient pact, and the minds of the terrestrials whom we address -as is happening now- are involved in this war. In fact, this war also takes place in our most intimate spheres and on levels that we are unaware of, which makes the whole matter very difficult and hard to express.

    Rationality is essential, but it is not enough to explain phenomena, interactions and consequences that are beyond all that society and knowledge-science have accustomed and conditioned us to. Indeed, the rationality which is needed in order to cope with this “story” and its implications is by far richer and more elaborate than the rationality that our scientists normally use. It is also by far richer and more elaborate than the rationality which is involved in philosophical systems such as Buddhism with its cause-effect law. Indeed, the latter only represents one piece of an overall explanation that is enormously more complex and articulated.

    The “teachings” of the Friends have not yet been divulged, but when they are they will allow us to deal with this intricate conceptual and experiential muddle with a new awareness.

    TRASCENDENCE of what we also call “God” is at the very core of the teachings of the Friends. This should not be confused with the Soul of the Universe mentioned above. Here, we have the very opposite of pantheism. For now, however, I am obliged to stop here, though this is by far the most important point and the main reason for the Friends’ presence among us, as they themselves told us.

    The picture shown here was made with a Polaroid in the ’60s. It represents the fundamental aspect of the relationship between our group and the Friends. The picture reproduces the projection of a giant’s subtle body. What is significant is the emphasis of the heart area as the central part, which means that Love is the most important thing for human beings, both terrestrial and extraterrestrial.

    UREDDA -in one of the Friends’ languages- is the energy that is produced by the Love between people, particularly between the Friends and our group, following a pact between them and us and the many events that brought us together.

    UREDDA is a kind of energy, but the Friends are not the worshippers of Energy, as other populations are. The Friends follow Love, which is also the source of good energies such as UREDDA, but is itself beyond any energy.

    Thanks to special instruments that work on the subtle levels (there are tens of subtle levels), the Friends transform UREDDA into other energies and objects, even the oxygen they breathe in their underground and undersea bases. If UREDDA is lacking, the Friends die for they have chosen to be vulnerable out of Love. Moreover, the Friends chose to be dependent upon material help (food, mainly fruits and vegetables) that we provided for them. This occurred by means of remote control dematerializations, that I personally saw and was involved in so many times over the years. We called them “the Friends’ pick-ups”. Even tons of food at a time were dematerialized, at a distance of one meter (three feet) from our eyes and immediately afterwards were rematerialized inside the Friends’ bases. In other cases, using the same system the Friends would send us large or small objects, that were materialized under our very eyes.

    In order to be allowed to stay here with us, the Friends were obliged to accept the law of Time and especially the law of Having that regulate the destiny of our planet.

    If one ignores or does not fully understand THE FRIENDS’ VOLUNTARY LOVING DEPENDENCE UPON THE LAW OF HAVING (upon our thoughts and actions in the end), one cannot grasp the true meaning of the “story” as it occurred, and will not be prepared if the “story” occurs again -perhaps even in a more widespread form.

    Today, the new so-called “post-modern” paradigms of terrestrial knowledge, adding to the paradoxes of quantum physics, open people’s minds to accept that reality may not be what it appears to be, or not just what it appears to be. The idea that we may be like children who are playing inside a room and are unaware of all the events that are occurring around them, even unaware of all the other contents of the room itself, except the toys, today may appear less absurd than it did in the past. However, the true acceptation -not just at a playful or virtual level, but at a level of real awareness- of an extraterrestrial world among us still represents a mind-blowing anthropological and cognitive revolution -much more so than the Copernican revolution. Just as an example, in the past, hundreds of millions of years ago, on the Earth there were six civilizations, which were even more advanced than ours and which disappeared, due to their own fault. This is also a threat to us today. The Friends, who saw our self-destructive past with sorrow, don’t want it to be repeated again. They are able to help us and do so, but they are obliged to operate within restrictions and conditions that are imposed by the subtle levels of the Earth and of our Universe. Incidentally, all of us completely ignore the existence of these restrictions and conditions.

    Such is the complexity of the variables involved, that the Friends never predicted anything about “disclosure day”. I never heard them speak about 2012, that so many people mention. Instead, they said they would come back again among us. Those like myself (one of the very few of us still alive) made a special agreement with the Friends, swearing a solemn oath of reciprocal allegiance which still binds us though so many years have passed since then. But I do not know if and when they will be back. Or, maybe, they are already back and are at work with other terrestrials in some other part of the world. I do not know if they will contact me. I do not believe so. I think that my only task -which incidentally, the Friends themselves told me a long time ago- is to recount these things that I have now begun to tell Mr. Nikola Duper.

    At the end of the ’40s, the Friends offered their collaboration to the head of the USA Administration. In exchange, they asked that the nuclear weaponry program be given up. But their offer and request were rejected, and other extraterrestrial populations have been collaborating with the USA and other Powers. The results of this have been highly negative, and still weigh heavily on our collective destiny. One of the reasons -there are others- which delay disclosure is the fact that the USA Administration should assume responsibility before the whole planet for having refused a vital collaboration and for having activated another highly negative one, exclusively for the sake of power and domination, lying to citizens and covering up for decades.

    Following the American politico-military refusal, the Friends undertook the strategy consisting in confidential contacts with small groups of terrestrials, trying to emphasize the quality of human personal relationships, the value of Love and UREDDA, rather than quantity and visibility.

    However, even these qualitative contacts failed to give the expected fruits, so today it is necessary to start again. With the Friends, however, there is never a definitive defeat, because their resources are quite extraordinary. When the Friends lose a battle, the reason is that we lost it, and they have to lose it with us and pay with us and for us, submitting to the laws of our subtle levels. In November 1978 our lack of UREDDA towards the Friends caused the death of many of them, and their momentary defeat by the enemy population called CTR -a defeat that the Friends had predicted and considered a foregone event. However, the situation is still reversible.

    The adventure of the Friends with us is an extraordinary hidden drama, with unforeseeable events -partially unforeseeable for the Friends too, due to the incredible complexity of the variables involved and to the imponderability of free choice. The Friends have an infinite respect for people’s free will.

    Everyday, terrestrial collaborators of the Friends and terrestrial collaborators of populations who are enemies of the Friends (and thus are our own enemies) silently fight with each other. The enemies are trying to conquer our planet in a very gradual and seemingly painless way, most of all working over our minds. Unfortunately, this is not science-fiction. If only it were so! Unfortunately, this is not paranoia. If only it were so!

    However, just hinting at these subjects leads to the discrediting of the person who says or writes them; and this is a powerful weapon in the hands of those who want to harm us. Mental and social conditionings in this field are extremely strong. It is easy to discredit anyone, whatever their social or cultural position, if one has strong motivations to do so. If someone has had highly secret experiences, such as this with the Friends, and then “strangely” obtained an important position within society and is respected as a reliable person, they fear to be discredited, if they reveal their secret. Moreover, they fear that speaking out will discredit the thing itself. They know that those conditionings will be stronger anyway than their social or cultural position and the esteem they have gained over a whole life time. So, they keep silent, while they would desire to speak only the truth, without wanting anything for themselves. But others speak -others who do not know the truth or do not want the truth to be known. They speak out of self-promotion or for profit, and they do not risk being discredited, because they have nothing to be discredited for. Today this happens in every country, and is fully exploited by all the people and institutions that do not want disclosure to occur. What actually happens is that people either tend not to really believe “revelations”, or else they fool themselves into believing, or at most they suspend their judgment, knowing that those “revelations” come from people who aim at self-promotion or profit and do not fear being discredited.

    I shall try to provide a systematic and point-articulated exposition, as soon as possible. The global scenario is extremely complex, as it also includes the presence and activities of the other extraterrestrial populations among us. However, if we consider this scenario under the perspective that the Friends offer us, at least we have a connecting thread and a general sense. This is possible because the Friends’ perspective is a privileged one, because of their very special relationship with the subtle levels and the Soul of the Universe. Under any other perspective the scenario would not just be too complex -it would even be undecipherable, and, in the end, one of despair.


    One of the Sworn Ones (incognito for now)

    ~~~

    Paola Harris: These are the protocols of which I speak in my new book: Exopolitics: How Does One Speak To A Ball Of Light - Exopolitical challenges and protocols for future contact.

    This year in Italy, two important books surfaced talking about aliens among us. The first book was written by Stefano Breccia. Italian engineer and computer graphics expert and telecommunications who is considered a very credible source. The book is called Contattismi di Massa (Nexus Edizioni) which literally means Mass Contacts. It deals with two opposing groups of Aliens situated near the Adriatic coast near Pescara who mingled among the residents and especially who communicated with several important political figures in 1956.


    Their liaison contactee was a man called Bruno Sammaciccia, a credible figure who held four University degrees among them psychology and psychiatry and amazingly enough was nominated man of the year by UNESCO in 1982 for his cultural background. He was first contacted telepathically by these very tall (8-foot) humanoid aliens who had a base in the Adriatic sea.

    In the Chapter called “Amicizia” at the end of the book he talks about their habits, intentions and their interaction with humans among them, such prestigious figures as a Brazilian Cardinal, a famous painter, a general of the carabinieri (Italian Military Police) but in particular, they contacted the much noted (Italian Consul) Console Perego who had the sighting over St. Peter’s December 1st 1953, and who spoke about UFOs to many Italian Officials in the 50’s much like Adamski.

    Contacted telepathically was also, journalist/photographer Bruno Ghibaudi who took the amazing photos of these distinct craft coming out of the water near Pescara on the Adriatic coast. The book includes many photos of this plus the dignitaries mentioned plus one photo of an 8-foot tall Alien who said he was part of a confederation from a “blue” galaxy which means probably a blue nebula. One message given to Planet Earth was “most extraterrestrial life was humanoid in Nature!” They look like us!

    The second book that I researched is called Beyond Heaven or Oltre il Cielo by Maurizio Cavallo. This second book details the agony and the ecstasy of Maurizio’s contact with a group from Clarion from the star system of Aquila (the Eagle). The problems with conflicting realities and dimensional travel which almost led him to insanity.

    Cavallo’s contact happened in 1981 and in an effort to stabilize himself in this reality, he took many photographs, and many Polaroids of different aliens, of this what he also calls the “confederation!" These Clarions asked him not to release them for 10 years to test his commitment to them. Most every photograph portrait has a name and is very particular. He explained to me that his Clarion Contacts absorb light when photographed so there are many flashes of light as in the picture of Suell.

    I have been working on the Maurizio Cavallo story since October 2006 and find him very stable, logical, calm and credible. He simply lives his story. It is very difficult to evaluate this type of case that has films, photographs and artifacts. Although I visited him four times always staying in his town for days, I became very anxious to involve Jaime Maussan from Mexico in this particular case especially since he was doing the “Antonio Urzzi” case only 40 kilometers away.

    The Urzi footage of daylight UFOs matches that of Mauizio Cavallo and in one film, it seems like the same UFO. Antonio Urzi is in Milano, Cavallo lives one hour away near Torino and his contacts come about in Val D’Aosta as well as the French Alps. Jaime Maussan flew to Milano the 11th of May 2007 and he filmed interviews for two days.

    Both these contactees are summoned to film these craft plus they are sensitive to the presence of their extraterrestrial friends. They are chosen.

    Paola's interview at this link http://maya12-21-2012.com/2012forum/reptilians-greys-and-other-ets/w56-ctrclones-~-contactee-stefano-breccia/


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    Post  giovonni Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:29 pm

    thanks Carol for posting!
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    Post  Carol Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:56 am

    yw gio... my pleasure

    Here is the link to AV1 on Human looking alien clones are a reality and live among us thread. http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19456

    The interview between Paola Harris and Stefano Braccia with photographs is at this link: http://www.paolaharris.com/masscontactinterview.html


    Paola: 1. This book Mass Contacts is a " milestone” in Ufology. Why did you decide to publish it, more importantly why now? Is the time for disclosing this better?

    Steano: Well, actually I was told to publish this book; I wrote it as a favor to my old friend Bruno Sammaciccia, . I sent it to the Italian Nexus publishing house following the pressing requests by researcher Roberto Pinotti. Now I have been encouraged to present it America, following your request so the English-speaking world can read it. There is no particular meaning to the " timing" of release. People can find it on Amazon.com

    Paola: 2. What do you think are the most important parts of this book?

    Stefano: The book relates histories of mass contacts in the world and in the Pescara region of Italy, but of course the one I’ve been involved with is the last one, Amicizia meaning Friendship; therefore it has been, to me, the most important one; and, among the pages devoted to Amicizia, probably the most interesting is the last one, “Maieutics”, where I present the reader with excerpts from their way of thinking. I believe that everything I wrote is important, otherwise I wouldn’t have made the effort to write it.


    Paola: 3. How does the reader find this story credible. Do the photographs of the actuprotagonists help?

    Stefano: I do not intent that anybody believes what I’ve written. I’ve stated this many times, within the text. It’s up to the reader to decide whether I am a fool or not. About photos, I am the first one to state that pictures are meaningless; I even present a fake, done my myself. I’ve included a lot of pictures simply because most of them are totally unknown, up to now. Think of the scout craft formation, seen from above! Or the many pictures shot during a landing. I’ve never seen anything like that in any UFO book, therefore I believe that “Contattismi di massa” has been the first one to show such things. There are even two pictures of W56 people. The one on the cover is actually composed by two half-pictures, that have been put together, but they come from two different images, otherwise our Friend would show three arms at the same time!

    Paola: 4. Have you been warned about disclosing too much?Have you yourself met these people?

    Stefano: No. I am not disclosing to much and yes, I have seen them.

    Paola: 5. Do you think that the fact that there a human looking aliens that live among us more dangerous than taking about the EBE or the Grey? Where did they live? Did they use " Italian words" or telepathy?

    Stefano: Sorry, but here I do not understand fully your question. Our W56’s were speaking plain Italian, and other languages; their Italian was often corrupted with Abruzzo’s vernacular, but they were able to speak even Latin and Sanskrit, as I have written in my book. They were making contacts typically using radio sets as receivers, or using telephones, or video sets, which, if off, usually were turning on by themselves, just to shut off when the communication was over. Very seldom telepathy or other “unusual” media were taken into account. Our Friends are living inside small bases, or plainly within our environment.

    Paola: 6. Discuss the unacquainted reader the two separate groups of human type aliens. What were their names and why did we give them a " name"? How long did they live? Give a physical description, please

    Stefano: The problem about names is really difficult to be afforded in a few lines. What I may say here is that almost all of the names of the characters involved have been invented here on Earth. Physical descriptions, and the like, may be found inside the book. There are many different groups of aliens interacting with our day-to-day life. Aside the W56’s and the CTR’s, my book quotes also the Elta V’s, the UTI’s, the Ummites, and obviously nobody may know how many others were (and are) around us. As far as I know, all of them are human-like, with only minor differences, height among them.

    Paola: 7. Why were these two groups fighting.

    Stefano: You’ll find several, different, motivations about this war, this quarrel, or whatever you’d like to name it, within the book. The main reason is the rage between human and not human beings. The W56s are among our ancestors, while the CTRs are an artificial offspring, generated by the W56s themselves.

    Paola: 8. Did you ever personally interact with them to your knowledge?

    Stefano: Yes.

    Paola: 9. What impression did they give you?

    Stefano: A very friendly one, whence the name “Amicizia” (“Friendship”) came from.

    Paola: 10. Describe their Underwater bases near Pescara in the Adriatic Coast. How did they live there undetected?

    Stefano: Sorry, but you may understand that describing such things, with a lot of technology beyond our actual knowledge, is too difficult to be condensed in a few lines. I may just recall that (as I have written) there are no fixed entries into: when necessary, a passageway is open, then closed, and everything gets back to the “status quo ante”. The “big base” had a ceiling 300 meters high, so that, at times, it was even raining inside it! Any way, I may state, if anybody may be willing to believe me, that a lot of our Friends are living among us, interacting at ease with our society, having Earth identities.

    Paola: 11. Did they do a " technology exchange" with anyone and were the Americans aware of them. We know they contacted the Vatican through certain cardinals.

    Stefano: Of course I believe that the ultimate goal was a technology exchange, but also, may be more importantly, let’s say, exchange in topics relating to morality. You’ll find in my book some statements that may look preposterous, at a first sight, such as, for instance, that killing a man is not inherently to be condemned, that our system of laws, lawyers, judges and the like is all but foolish. Such statements are discussed and justified. Aside from a quotation of an American president within the English version of this book (please let me joke a bit on it!), I know very little about Vatican implications. I may only underline that one pope has signed a dedication to a book by Sammaciccia.

    Paola: 12. Did they give humanity any future predictions? Will they disclose their presence in the Future?

    Stefano: No, as far as I know.

    Paola: 13. We are waiting for the debut of this important book. What do you think are the most important passages that you wrote?

    Stefano: I already answered this question before: I do not intend to be the champion of aliens of any kind. I have written what I, honestly and without any peculiar aim, believe could be written.

    Mass Contacts in English is also available At Arcturus books and www.amazon.com


    A tentative study on the strange picture at the end of “Contattismi di massa” pictures at follow link http://www.paolaharris.com/masscontactinterview.html
    Teresa Barbatelli


    The lucky readers of “Contattismi di massa”, by Prof. Stefano Breccia, are going from a coup de theatre to another, while reading the appealing reconstruc-tion of the contact cases with supposed aliens, not from the part of single earth-lings, as we are used to be told by the most of the literature, but by groups of people who, usually, have preferred to conceal their experiences. He starts from a group of scientists who, in past centu-ries, have shown intuitions and inventions well in advance of their age, then presents the well known “Ummo case”, with many details unknown up to date, then, in the third chapter, he presents the most aston-ishing part of his book, the “Amicizia case”. At the end of his very detailed story about Amicizia, that went on for more than 30 years, a tale with many details that may be verified even today, mostly focused on the character Bruno Sammaciccia, the the author presents us with the picture of a supposed W56.

    The picture is clear and bright (it’s incred-ible to scholars, who have been used to see blurred and out of focus pictures, bad-ly lighted and disputable, when supposed aliens are concerned); it shows us a young man in a garden, smiling. He doesn’t show anything that might make us think of a being from an-other world; he looks to be very tall, and the only strangeness consists in his head, a bit too small with respect to his body.

    As Prof. Breccia tells about aliens like us, but 2 or even 3 meters tall (Sammaciccia speaks of beings even 6 meters tall), I have been immediately urged to verify whether the boy of the picture was as tall as that; such a discovery would have definitively demonstrated that aliens do exist. It was necessary to go to work.

    Unfortunately the picture, although very clear, does not look to show measurable details, therefore no perspective-based computations may be conducted. The plants present in it look to be very young (the lemon plant in the foreground is kept by a small rod), therefore they might have been not too tall, when the picture has been taken.

    I was already disappointed in my hope to evaluate how tall the man was, when I noticed, just over his head, what in all evidence were pine-needles; making use of Photoshop, I have taken one nee-dle, and replicated it as many times as to equating the height of the man. This is the result:

    It’s evident that 20 to 21 needles are required to do the job; moreover, the man is slightly bent to one side.

    Now the problem is: how long is a pine-needle?

    I must admit I have started looking at all the pine plants that I was meeting along the streets of Rome (I believe there must be millions of them), hoping to meet a plant sufficiently low to permit me to take some needles (contrary to the man of the picture, I’m very short), but I never found one, because they were all very high, outside my possibilities.

    Hopefully, one day a strong wind blow has thrown a whole branch just to the en-trance of my house; under the perplexed look of my house-keeper, I’ve collected the branch, and taken it home; making use of a photo camera as a witness, I made my measurements.

    As it may be seen in my picture, pine-needles are 15-16 cm long, therefore the man should have been 3 meters tall (if we consider only 20 needles, each 15 cm long), or 3.36 (21 needles, 16 cm long).
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    From 3 to 3.36 meters tall? I must admit that I had a shock! Further en-quiries were needed, hopefully with a more detailed copy of the picture. My friend Eng. Carlo Bolla has been able to supply me with a higher resolution copy, so I started to work on my Mac trying to find out details that might be of some help.

    My search found out some railings, almost in-visible in the dark, that surround the garden where the picture had been taken.

    At the end I had an object, whose dimensions are known, at least with some approximation: railings typically have bars 10 to 15 cm away from each other, and, from these figures, a simple (so to say) geometric projection could have led to the height of the man.

    Perspective laws have allowed painters from the past to rendering three dimensions scenes over a bi-dimensional support; this was made making use of an horizon, and a set of straight lines.

    They have been generating scenes making use of perspective, I was to do the inverse process, may be roughly.

    Once having taken railings into account, I decided to take the main character away from the picture, in order to better understand the geometry of the railings:

    As it may be seen, railings are now more evident, but another problem appears: the picture is not vertical: in all evidence, whoever has taken it has not kept the camera in an horizontal attitude, there-fore the whole scene looks a bit slanted. In order to make use of perspective laws, the picture was to be straightened up.

    After having straightened the picture, whatever horizontal line could have been used as an horizon. In my case, as I was unaware of the height and the reciprocal distance of the bars, I was believing that it should have been sufficient to project the bars unto the ground, so that, estimating a distance be-tween each couple, an unit of measure could be derived, able to allow to compute the di-mensions of the other objects present in the picture.

    Then, I stylized the railing, therefore en-hancing it. I started supposing a 10 cm dis-tance between each couple of bars, making use of ten of them, therefore over a length of 1 meter. We must obviously remember that usually such distances may be anything between 10 and 15 cm.

    I’ve taken again the character away from the picture, have chosen at random a focal point and an horizon line. The result (10 cm distance between bars) is that the guy is 2.40 meter tall (of course, 12 cm distance would give 2.88 meters, 13 cm 3.12 meters, and so on).

    Indeed such absurd figures were disconcerting, they could not be true, and, in the CICAP style (a group of supposed scientists, indeed just debunkers – translator) I started wandering where I was going wrong. I found out that, according to the infinity point I had chosen on the horizon, dimensions could vary considerably.

    Therefore it was silly to base oneself on a random horizon line and an infinity point. It was necessary to establish, at least roughly, the point of view of whom had shot the picture, and, above all, it was necessary to find on the ground a grid of lines with two different origins.

    Looking at the picture, it seems that who has shot it was, roughly, at the height of the hips of the man. That doesn’t mean that the shooter was smaller, because may be he was kneeling, or may be the man was on the top of a bounce, and so on.

    I was now aware that it was not possible to go on by suppositions, and therefore I started computing the grid, basing myself on an horizon at the height of the man’s hips, and on two origins.

    In order to find the second origin, I’ve been forced to extend the railings, again supposing 10 cm of distance between their bars, supposing that they were encircling the garden, and therefore generating a set of squares on the ground, whose sides were 1 meter long by assumption.

    One again, supposing bars 1 meter high, and 10 cm distant from one another, the man results to be 2.40 meters tall (the mark is slightly higher, because the man’s head is slightly tilted). His height would reach 3.60 meters supposing a 15 cm distance between bars!

    According to the point of view of debunkers (if it doesn’t look possible, it is impossible) the problem was absurd. Therefore I sought the help of a friend of mine, an architect, without telling him that my goal was to compute the height of a supposed alien. I just asked him: I have a picture of a garden, where some railings are present; how may I compute its planimetry? My friend sighed, and told me that it was a difficult operation, with logarithm-based projections, and I got into despair, because I’m not acquainted with logarithms, after my humanistic studies.

    Having tried three different approaches to the problem, I was on the point of giving away, because of my ignorance in mathematics, when I remembered that a very useful software packet exists, Google Sketch Up.

    Google Sketch Up may be downloaded from the Internet free of charge; it is able to reconstruct three-dimensional structures and to look at them from every possible point of view, rotating and translating them, and so on. It’s a software packet that allows three-dimensional architectural de-signs, similar to the ones obtainable from technical experts in this subject.

    An interesting feature is that it presents the user with a set of pre-defined objects, for instance sofas, pipes, pianos, and… railings!

    Therefore I decided to make a fourth approach: making use of Google Sketch Up, I was to define a plane whatever, put standard railings over it, put the picture from “Contattismi di massa” on the scene, moving it until the result would match the picture itself. Then, I was only to measure the man’s height, making use of the instruments offered by Google Sketch Up.

    That’s an example of a standard rail-ing, given by Google Sketch Up; after the object has been inserted, the whole scene may be rotated, so that one may look at it from every possi-ble point of view.

    Then, I inserted the picture from “Con-tattismi di massa” into the three-dimensional scene-ry generated by Google Sketch up.

    Then, it was necessary to move the objects, so that the distance among the bars of the real railing could match that of the virtual object; that’s the result:

    I rotate this image, to better overlap the railings:

    When I finished it has been possible to establish that the distance between the man and the railings has been about 9.85 cm.

    At this point it was possible to measure the man’s height, and I have been shocked to verify that it was 3.07 meters:

    Just to be sure, I’ve made use of another possibility offered by Google Sketch Up: it presents its user with a model of a normal man, 1.77 meters tall; I put this object into the scene, near to the supposed alien, and this is the unbelievable result:
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    In short, a man 1.77 meters tall would have looked this way, near to the man from our picture:


    What could I say?

    Of course someone could counteract: “Roger, this guy is very tall but what’s strange? Since ever there are men very tall. That man may well be from this earth”.

    I too grabbed this idea (or, at least, the CICAP-like portion of my mind did so), therefore I started searching the Internet, looking for the tallest men on Earth, and that’s what I’ve found:
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    Robert Pershing Wadlow, 2.72 meters tall (Alton, Feb 22, 1918 – Manistee, July 15, 1940); he has been the tallest man over Earth whose height has been officially measured.

    He started to over-grow after he underwent an operation on his hypophysis. Has been the major character in an advertising champaign in the USA for a shoe company. When he died, he was still growing.

    He has been surnamed the “weak giant”, because he was very fragile and subject to infections, due to his height; his death has been due to an infection derived from a device designed to help his ankles to support his weight. His coffin was 3.28 meters long, 0.86 wide, and 0.74 high.

    Leonid Stadnik: the last time he has been measured, he resulted to be 2.57 meters tall. He now lives with his mother in a village in Ukraina, named Podolyantsy. Leonid started to grow after having undergone an operation to remove a tumor from his hypophysis. It’s very difficult to him to walk, or just to move, because he has problems in controlling his legs. When he walks, he has to clutch nearby trees. He is still growing.

    His muscular system doesn’t work well, because of his height, and he needs pe-culiar orthopaedic devices.

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    Bao Xi Shun, 2.36 meters tall, is supposed to be the tallest man on Earth, because of problems with measuring Mr. Stadnik; his height resulted after six different measure-ments, taken at the Chifeng Hospital, in Mongolia. He won, for only 2 millimeters, over Radhouane Charbib, another contestant to the title. He tells that he has been normal up to 16, when, for unknown reasons, he started to grow in height. Strangely enough, the physicians who examined him in 2005 did not find any trace of acromegaly, or gigantism.

    Mr. Radhouane Charbib, from Tunisia, who is “only” 2.36 meters high.

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    Ijaz Ahmed, from Pakistan, 24 years old, is 2.54 meters tall. The picture shows him in front of the Petronas Twin Towers in Kuala Lumpur. He has been born in Punjab, was normal up to 15 years of age, then he started to grow. He pretends to be the tallest man on Earth.


    Sultan Kose is a Turkish basket-ball player, 2.42 meters tall. He is supposed to be the tallest basket-player in the world; he is going to undergo an operation on his knees, after he will be 2.27 meter tall. He had been born in a small village, near to Iraqi border. He had been noted by a talent scout from Galatasaray, who enrolled him, although he had never played basket-ball.


    Another basket-ball player, and actor, has been Suleiman Ali Nashnush, born in Tripoli in 1943, dead in February 25, 1991. He he supposed to have been the tallest basket-ball player, as he was 2.45 meters. In 1960 he underwent an operation, in Rome, aimed to reduce his growing rate. In 1962 he played within the Libyan national team; he also staged in Fellini’s “Satyricon”.

    Gabriel Estêvão Monjane (1944÷1990) has been one among the 12 people recorded in the history of medicine, for having been taller than 2.40 meters. He had been born in Manjacaze, Mozambique, and he started to grow abnormally, proba-bly because of a problem with his glands. When he was officially measured, he re-sulted to be 2.43 meters. He suffered serious prob-lems at his legs, and became lame, after having fallen at home, breaking his hip. In 1988 he has been credited the title of tallest man on Earth.

    Väinö Myllyrinne (Helsinky, 1909 ÷ Järvenpää, Finland, 1963) has been the acromegalic giant who won the title of tallest man in the world from 1961 to 1963. When 21 he was 2.22 meters tall, but after 30 years old he started to grow again, reaching 2.42 meters.

    It looks that the rare cases of terrestrial “giants” are often due to an illness named “acromegaly”. It affectes people, making them grow continuously, but, as far as it is known, they never exceed 2.72 meters (Robert Pershing Wadlow). Any way, when a person exceeds 2.2 meters, he starts suffering a lot of different physical pathologies, and statistics tell us that they face a short life. That’s because they endure their bones weigh, their hearth is forced to pump blood stronger than usual, blood pres-sure goes mad, and all the internal organs are subjected to unusual stresses. In short, over this planet, a 2.20 meters high biped is due to a short life (if he is not a grizzly).

    Does that mean anything? I do not know.

    I must say that, looking at the pictures of the tallest men in the world, I’ve found all of them awkward (either legs too long, feet too big, heads malformed), while, looking at the picture at the end of “Contattismi di massa”, I see a man with an harmonious structure (may be just his head is a bit too little), with slim legs, small feet wearing “espadrillas”, a relaxed and smiling face, and a general impression of energy and dynamism. Nothing to do with the pictures of the unholy “tallest men in the world”, almost always forced to resort to crutches.

    Of course personal sensations have no objective value, then the possibility exists that the person who appears in “Contattismi di massa” is no giant at all.

    Conclusions

    This has been an amateur analysis, made by a person without great mathematical skills. A part within myself hopes strongly that I’ve been mistaken (at least because the idea that “giants” walk among ourselves generates an ancestral anguish feeling), another part within myself hopes that I’m right, it would be great if what written in the third part of “Contattismi di massa” were true, it would mean that to men just a little step is required.

    I hope that my modest work may induce people better qualified than myself to scientifically analize that picture.



    (Translation by Stefano Breccia)





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    Post  Carol Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:13 am

    Reptilian Experiencers revisited http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17026

    This is the 13 page thread at AV1 on Reptilians.

    Wilcock recently said that really struck me as right on target. He said we are in a frequency war. This makes a lot of sense to me as there are those forces which strive to create chaos, fear and anger to feed off and/or manipulate. And then there are those individuals who refuse to go into those lower frequencies and are resonating at a higher vibration.

    But if we all take a breath and remember the future time travel visit of 2047, Andrew Basiago was in a beautiful place and the earth was in a good place. So it would appear there are some difficult transitions for some and not so difficult transitions for others.

    We all know we never die and that our consciousness continues in one form or another. So what is it we are afraid of? Is it death? Is it about what negative aliens can do to us? Is it about earth changes we supposedly have no control over? What is it? We all will also experience a physical death... meaning we have to leave our 3rd dimensional body behind in order to move onward in this never ending cycle of experience.

    Andrew Basiago also said something that stuck with me and it was about how the future was mutable. It is not set in cement because we affect the future by our intention. We affect the future by our desires and the images we hold in our minds. If this is indeed true this would also mean we do not have to buy into current realities others are projecting for the future. Instead, we can be co-creators and participate in designing the future we want to see.

    Has anyone here thought that perhaps by divine design this forum is a collection of many different personalities that vibrate at different frequencies. There are some here who may be ready to transition out of this galaxy and into another multi-verse. There are those who have chosen to stay behind to help others that are left behind and then there are those who are completely clueless, but looking. Reality for each individual is a mystery to the person standing next to him or her. Yet when we take that leap of faith, which is described by some of the most brilliant minds with respect to quantum physics, we know that we are the breath of god made from the stuff of the stars. We all hold a place in space which is defined by our unique individual consciousness.

    Seeking wholeness is innate. Some just take longer then others and that is okay. We truly have all of the time in the multi-verse to do our work as souls who are evolving and we continue to evolve through the experience of many lives in many forms, in many dimensions. This is reality as I understand it.

    For example, if one were to think of concentric circles one understands and knows the circle one dwells within. Yet like a snake that sheds it skin when the form no longer fits, the next circle is larger and there is more to learn in order to understand and know it. We humans are growing in our understanding of what was, what is, and what is possible. Some of us perhaps are stuck with what was.. while others are focused on what is and then our dream makers are focused on what is possible.

    When I was reading Lou Baldwin (Sleepers) book I had a good laugh. He was taken to a place, a city in space located, I believe not far from the sun. In this place he was recalling another life as a resident there and there was a conversation regarding his partners decision to go help out a friend on earth by incarnating as her friend's baby daughter and that she had, I believe, committed to a life span of 62 earth years.

    Think about this for a moment. What is it we don't have? For most of us we don't have our memories of our previous lives. Yet these memories exist and are encoded in our cellular structure which has been scientifically proven by some docs who have been doing some intriguing research. Irrespective of this reality, some can see how it is all to easy to become myopic and lose site of the bigger picture, the galactic picture, the multi-universe picture and instead get stuck in the day-to-day drama of finances, jobs, relationships and basic human survival.

    If indeed Andrew, Sleeper and Wilcock are correct... how do you suppose that alters one's inner perspective regarding the reptilian element? I still maintain we are all spiritual beings on different levels/rungs of the spiritual ladder. It truly serves no one to attack one another as in essence this is just a reflection of our own vibrational frequency that we are working with at an internal level. If indeed David is right about this being a frequency war then at what frequency would each person aspire too?

    For myself, I've still got miles and miles to go at an internal level just to keep focused on the end point while dealing with the day-to-day realities. I just think we need to remember not to give up on ourselves or each other. We can always send prayers to those we are in discord with and wish them the best, wish them their own continued spiritual evolution.. To me this is good intent and when we make that effort at an individual level we help raise the vibrational frequency of the whole. It is my hope that we all keep adding to the collective and go for the 100th monkey. Let's work on being forgiving of ourselves and our fellow souls who are on this journey with us. And most importantly let us remember to be kind.

    Admit: Re-posted from the closed thread.

    Ok this is not a theory of mine as I am not going to put it up yet.
    But here is some of the things I found out from other sources on the net...

    It may be more than coincidence that the Roswell Crash was in 1947 and Nassim Haramein has valid reason to believe that Latitude 19.47 is an extremely important number.

    Cydonia and the pyramids, rests at 19.47' from the equator. On Earth, pyramids are exact at 19.47' north of the equator on the Yucatan peninsula in Mexico. Hawaian pyramids are at 19.47' north of the equator as well.

    The earth is 21,600 nautical miles around. This measurement is based on the ratio of 360 x 60 first used by the Phoenicians and still in use by modern ocean and flight navigators.

    The number 6,480 is exactly 1/4th of the total 25,920 years it takes earth to complete one circuit through the signs of the zodiac. 6,480 years is unique because it marks the duration between a series of global cataclysms left in earth's historic and geologic record.

    When the earth's circumference, 21,600 is divided by 33.33 the number 6,480 appears in a variation:

    21,600 / 33.33 = 648.06480648064...

    648.06480648064..divided by 19.47, the number suggested by the year of the Roswell crash itself (1947)...produces a modification of 33.33:

    648.064806480 / 19.47 = 33.28

    ...Latitude 33.28°

    This latitude, 33.28° multiplied by PI (3.141592653589...) results in a longitude 104.56° ... pinpointing the exact coordinates of the disc impact site near Roswell NM.

    Additionally the number 2012 can be calculated with a form of the number of the exact Roswell crash site latitude, 33.28° and the year of the Roswell event itself, 1947:

    19.47 x 3.328 = 64.80

    Between July 1947 and March 2012 there are 64.80 years.

    More stuff here.

    A three dimentional sphere with a 3D pyramid inside it with it's tip aligned to North or South (both ways would create The Star of David) where the base of the pyramid touches the sphere this is latitude 19.47.
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    Post  Carol Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:32 pm

    Metaphysics, Contacts, & Cetaceans
    Date: 01-10-11
    Host: George Noory
    Guests: Patricia Cori, John R. Lott
    Author, contactee, and international speaker Patricia Cori shared her metaphysical interpretations about the universe, cetaceans such as dolphins and whales, Atlantis, and humanity's path. "My perception is the life that we're in now, this physical reality, is like a tube, and we come in as light beings, like full spirits...we go through this tube of 3D illusion...and then we pass back out [upon death] and return to light...source," she explained, adding that as spirit becomes more evolved, it becomes less dense.

    Humans are multidimensional beings, she said, citing as an example the dream state, in which we experience another plane of reality. In addition to ongoing ET disclosure, she interestingly suggested that cetaceans "are going to be recognized as conscious people," and have higher levels of consciousness and compassion than humans, and communicate with ETs who are in underwater craft. Regarding ancient Atlantis (which she said part of is now in the Azores), the 13 original crystal skulls were united to form a galactic computer there.

    She also touched on her channeled communications with Sirian beings on the "6th dimension," who shared a message for humanity with her-- that we are galactic citizens and our time of being alone is coming to an end. Cori also expounded on such topics as immortality, crop circles, and 2012 (which she does not believe is an Armageddon scenario).

    http://www.patriciacori.com/
    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2011/01/10

    http://www.northatlanticbooks.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9781556438936
    Her much awaited new book, Before We Leave You: Messages from the Great Whales and the Dolphin Beings, will be released in April, 2011. It is a call from the Cetacean world to the human race to rise up to our capacity to heal the oceans and bring harmony back to the planet – at a time when the plight of the seas and the whales and dolphins has come full center in our consciousness.



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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:28 pm

    Wow! What a really cool thread! I'll have to spend some serious time and attention here! But for now, consider the possibility of:

    (Extraterrestrial Humans + Extraterrestrial Hybrids) vs (Terrestrial Humans + Terrestrial Hybrids)

    Unfortunately, I get the impression that everyone hates the Terrestrial Humans (Us). As I keep posting on the Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System thread - I keep feeling that I am fighting for the survival of the best aspects of the Human Race - or simply for survival. Period. What was the Original Sin? What is the solution for the Original Sin and Karmic Debt - other than Slavery and Death???

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    Post  Carol Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:23 pm

    It's not that they hate humans OXY, it's more like wanting to control them or use them in biological experiments and some of their own hybrid programs. For example the Annunaki want control over humans (more like slave labor). The greys want them for they human-alien hybrid program. The reptilians want humans for human hybrid program, slaves and as a food source.

    Then there is Author and Healer Chris Thomas"who is unique in his data about a VELON ET presence on earth, and has detailed their history in his recent books.
    He details the right Human Plot, and Humanity’s vital role in the universe, and the involvement with many other ETs over many years. The latest, Project for Human Extinction, details how the Eliite and Illuminiati were taken over by a small number of Annunaki and Hathor Velon ETs about 300 years ago. He discusses this and other matters, in this the 1st of 2 detailed hour long interviews. His comments are highly controversial, as he slams many Channelors as being specifically “conned” by these Velon ETs.

    Highly controversial, and unique data.
    He was severely weaked some years ago, when he wok up with a hypodermic injection of lethal poison, which he managed to fight against, so he could write his books, and discuss with us on this very rare intervew.

    Therealworldno.blogspot.com
    http://www.getxnews.com/2010/08/chris-thomas-velon-et-threat-to-humanity/

    This is an interesting link as well http://www.getxnews.com/category/latest-news/


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    Post  Carol Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:36 pm

    A SPOOF OR WHAT?

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    ALIEN SPACESHIPS TO ATTACK EARTH IN 2011
    “Three giant spaceships are heading towards Earth
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    Three giant alien spaceships are heading for Earth! Scientists predict they will arrive in early 2011.

    UFO encounters continue to increase – as documented on WWN. And today scientists at SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence), an independent non-commercial organization, made a major announcement:

    “Three giant spaceships are heading towards Earth. The largest one of them is 200 miles wide. Two others are slightly smaller. At present, the objects are just moving past Jupiter. Judging by their speed, they should be on Earth by early 2011,” said John Malley, the lead extraterrestrial expert at SETI.

    The spaceships were detected by HAARP search system. The system, based in Alaska, was designed to study the phenomenon of northern lights. According to SETI researchers, the objects are extraterrestrial spaceships. They will be visible in optical telescopes as soon as they reach Mars’s orbit – sometime in March of 2011. The US government has been reportedly informed about the event SETI researchers have spent fifty years monitoring space. Professor Malley said that they have conclusively proven that “we are just newcomers in this huge and unexplored world. Many believe that there are many other civilizations in space beside our own civilization.”

    Wikileaks recenlty released many classified documents that prove that NASA and high-level U.S. official are aware of the three spaceships and are making plans to battle the spaceships. They have been concealing information from the U.S. public for decades. Wikileaks also confirms that the UFO sightings over the last three months prove that the alien invasions (long predicted by SETI) has begun. The three spaceships will mark the official beginning of the alien invasion.

    Malley said that recently a Chinese official, Mao Kan, had obtained over than 1,000 secret NASA photographs depicting not only human footprints, but even a human carcass on the surface of the Moon. Some of the bones in the carcass were missing, the official said. The human corpse must have been dropped on the Moon from an alien spaceship, whereas the extraterrestrials kept some tissue samples for research.

    Dr. Ken Johnston, former Manager of the Data and Photo Control Department at NASA’s Lunar Receiving Laboratory, said that US astronauts had found and photographed ancient ruins of artificial origin on the Moon. US astronauts had seen large unknown mechanisms on the Moon.

    Both Johnston and Mao Kan agree that the alien spaceships are heading for Earth.

    Beginning in February of 2011 the U.N. will begin preparing citizens of the world for the attack of the three spaceships – which are believed to come from Planet Zeeba.

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    THE PLANET ZEEBA? THERE IS A PLANET CALLED ZEEBA? ARE WE SURE THIS ISN'T ANOTHER PRESS RELEASE FOR A NEW HOLLYWOOD MOVIE? THIS POST IS FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY. SHOULD AN ALIEN WAR START, DON'T WORRY. NO ONE WILL WARN US ABOUT IT, IT WILL JUST HAPPEN. BIRDS WILL FALL FROM THE SKY & FISH WILL DIE OFF FOR NO EXPLAINABLE REASON. THERE WILL BE MASS WEATHER UPSETS, HURRICANES, FLOODS, ERUPTING VOLCANOES, THE NORTHEAST END OF AUSTRALIA WILL START SINKING, THE POLES WILL BEGIN TO SHIFT AND THERE WILL BE SIGNS IN THE SKIES ~ LOTS OF LIGHTENING, HIGH WINDS, HUGE WAVES, QUAKES IN UNEXPECTED PLACES. THAT SORT OF THING. MEANWHILE, SHOULD ANYONE BE INTERESTED, HEAD HELMETS CAN BE OBTAINED AT HOME DEPOT. BE SURE TO LINE IT WITH TIN FOIL. geek

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    I cannot find any mention of this on the official SETI website, SETI.org.

    Now this is certainly an interesting article, but before I comment further I'd just like to run this by you .

    Not long ago a Russian Mars probe photographed an object fitting this description just before it was destroyed for unknown reasons. Later, an American Mars probe was destroyed just before it reached that planet.

    Oh and I do think this topic has been discussed before I do recall reading something about three large objects.

    I can see it now...huge motherships hovering high in our atmosphere. The alien species will send out scout ships, there will no longer be any denying that we are not alone. The governments of the world will convene and choose "ambassadors" to meet with this new species. People will flock to their places of worship for some explanation as to what this means regarding their belief in God. Richard C. Hoagland will no doubt claim that they are from Mars and that it was he who first discovered them and their tetrahedral pyramids on the surface of Mars, and that he therefore claims the rights to any new technology we may garner from this contact.

    Then, after months of observing us, they will decide to send down a landing party to meet with the people of planet Earth. Human beings will be glued to their televisions as live coverage is beamed to every household of the ETs disembarking and setting foot onto the surface of our planet. Then as the first one steps out of the craft he is greeted by the representative for all humankind. This representative will no doubt have on standard issue blue medical gloves and his first words will be, "We need you guys to step over here, remove your shoes and anything you may have in your pockets. You can either choose the full body scan or the pat-down. If you cooperate..."


    PDF from the Royal Society
    http://rsta.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/369/1936/499.full.pdf+html

    Another's NOTE: Craig Kasnoff was in the conversation that ultimately resulted in SETI@home, but he's not an astrophysicist. His name was misspelled Kasnov because the original hoaxer stole his name from this website where it was also misspelled: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/classic.php

    In other words, the hoaxer lied about his source to try to gain credibility.

    Furthermore, the "spaceships" in question are film emulsion scratches and problems on photographic plates that were taken some 20 years ago and then digitally scanned (a process which can also result in additional artifacts caused by fibers or other debris on the plates at the time of scanning). These images have since been used to construct stitched mosaics in secondary sources such as google sky and others. The problems only occur in single plates for a given set of coordinates, not in the other plates for the same coordinates. Each plate corresponded to a specific color of light, that's how the color images were made for google sky and others, so a problem specific to one plate shows up as a vivid colored object in google sky. A real object, even one with a vivid color, would show up in multiple plates as it will reflect some degree of light in the other colors. Only a line emission would be completely specific to one color, in which case it would be some strange mono-element nebula, not a physical object.


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    Post  Carol Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:54 pm

    Back to James Casbolt. This is a small excerpt from Jame's book Project Mannequin, Part 7 Convergence of the Star Chidren

    Chapter 7

    In August 2006, I made the following prediction on the Edge AM radio broadcast. I stated we are close to a worldwide stock market collapse followed by an Arab-backed Russian military invasion of the U.S. and U.K. The global stock market collapse has now occurred, and it is time to ask yourself this question: Why are masses of Russian and Polish immigrants being let into the U.K? If a Russian invasion were being planned, would there be less resistance if the population were mixed together?

    We were told years ago that the U.K. and U.S. would become training grounds for Russian Special Forces, such as Spetsnaz (Russian Special Purpose Regiments) working together with private security firms such as Wackenhut.

    I’ve nothing against the Russian KGB/FSB, as I’m friends with ex-KGB agents such as John Symons.Most of these guys are just puppets because again we have a group of 33rd degree and above masons working together and controlling the Russian, American, and British governments. These people are now playing out a “Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse” scenario. This will cause religious uproar amongst Christian, Muslim, etc. fundamentalists. This is all planned to do just that, of course.

    The four stages, or horsemen, of the New World Order are as follows (and it all begins with the global stock market collapse):

    1) Worldwide stock market breakdown - First major attack on the world’s population

    2) Arab-backed Russian invasion of U.S and U.K. - World War 3

    3) Large scale bio-warfare attack on world’s population - “Return of the Plague” situation

    4) Topped off by a false flag Alien invasion with Illuminati and ETs working together - Possibly staged over 2012 Olympic games in London while eyes of the world focused on the event On September 8th, I received this email from "X3" (33rd degree of Zion/Illuminati member):


    Dear James

    The Committee of the Majority (MAJIC) have elected out of the Illuminati (top 300, 33rd degree masons). Now putting final plans in place for fake Armageddon scenario. Watch Iran and Pakistan. Plan is for theater of war to break out in the Middle East- IE Armageddon.

    Meanwhile Lord Jacob Rothschild and his lodge, through the BIS are attacking the U.S financial system. The plan as I understand it is a simultaneous financial attack, then a war with Russia through Iran and Israel, then a Bird Avian virus attack throughout the USA. The microchips of course are in the innoculants manufactured in Switzerland by Rockefeller's company. If the Lightworkers turn up (Author’s note - Plieadians), which is expected, Project Blue Beam will be initiated- Fake ET invasion.

    Yours in service
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


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