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    Post  mudra on Tue May 21, 2019 2:22 pm

    Well Vidya you certainly aren't having  a boring life here on earth Cheerful
    Seems Rodrigo chose resurrection rather than go into the tunnel and reincarnate.
    This is a completely different way to go that I discovered is possible and exists.
    Only your friend fumbled around and missed a few steps I would suppose Nutbar .
    I guess that's how he landed in your own body.
    He should be educated in the proper way to deal with resurrection
    and contact the experts on the matter. Just tell him to do so Wink

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    Post  Vidya Moksha on Wed May 22, 2019 2:26 pm


    I was planning to work with a british shamanic healer, in India, a couple of years later. I wasnt going to tell her about the spirit inside me, just have a 'cold' session with her.

    In the meantime I met this guy I mentioned, and he told me quite a lot about spirits etc. He offered to do a guided session for me.

    He said he placed wards around the room and he asked me to imagine - see in my minds eye -  a series of scenarios. As I explained in my shamanic thread, I dont have mental images! I dream ok, but when i shut my eyes i just see black, i cant conjure  images.. they have given a name to this 'condition' now - aphantasia -

    After an hour or so i gave up, i couldnt conjure the images required.. As we were leaving the session he said "wait', there are some spirits coming in, can you see them?" I couldnt.

    He described the scene. Several buddhist monks in robes came in the room, Rodrigo sat up (I was laying down), climbed out of my body, kissed me on the forehead, placed a flower over my heart and placed 'something' in my solar plexus. He then left with the monks.

    or so i was told, i saw nothing, felt nothing.

    I asked rodrigo if he was there, inside me, and got no response.. he had gone, or at least i couldnt contact him.

    so was i subject to the power of suggestion? Sally ushered the spirit into my mind and this guy ushered it out? .. but Max? my communications? the synchronicities? I couldnt be sure as I didnt see or hear the spirit, but my belief was it was real.

    A couple of weeks later i did work with the shamanic healer. She told me there was something in solar plexus and described it to me.. She said she shouldnt remove it as it was meant to be there, it was protecting me.. (i have always been sensitive to other people's energies)  . What she described was a bell that Rodrigo had hanging from a tree.. the last time I spoke to him (as a person), I asked what he wanted me to bring to him, and he replied - 'My Buddha and my bell'.. the item the shaman was describing was this bell, in 'spirit' form! ?

    Later during shamanic journey work we 'visited' the village of the ancients (or elders, i forget).. she said, say nothing, just show respect. Anyway this time, to her surprise one of the village elders cam forward to greet us. Apparently this isnt normal. She described him when the session ended and I showed her a photo of Rodrigo... "That's him! " she said...

    more confirmation? As weird and as far out as this story goes, it is my experience.  

    So do we maintain our physical form in spirit, what about past lives etc?

    I still have as many questions of my own experience before i even start addressing the further adventures of Morpheus Wink
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    Post  Sanicle on Thu May 23, 2019 7:34 am

    What a wonderful outcome to your story Vidya.  I love you

    Were you ever able to ask Rodrigo (yourself or through one of the shamans) if he joined with you purposely, maybe as some sort of teaching and/or protection for you?  I say protection as you must have been quite 'open' to enable him to join with you without you being aware of it.  If you have aphantasia (wow, never heard of that before either) maybe he knew there was something around you that you couldn't 'see' and he was able to block it, or just give you that protection when he left?  But sounds like he was certainly able to help you on your journey by joining with you like this.  

    I wonder if it's the same or a similar thing that it's said some indian gurus do with their followers/disciples when they pass over so as to pass on special knowledge to them, which is apparently a real honour. Hey, maybe that's how the Dalai Lama continues on -- 'dies' and just goes off and finds another body to join with, waiting there until his followers find him/her and bring him/her home again. I guess it would avoid the 'forgetting' part of reincarnating here to a good degree.

    It certainly all sounds 'real' to me, with all the synchronicities and validations you received along the way from so many sources.  cheers But, as you say, leaves so many more
    questions. Ha. Cheerful
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    Post  Vidya Moksha on Thu May 23, 2019 8:25 am

    When Rodrigo died I was running a small ecological research company and had built a near self sufficient farm in Portugal. He always told me life was short, then he proved it.
    I gave my company to my staff and my farm to my (now ex-) wife and son, and I set off into the world with just the clothes I was wearing. A couple of weeks later I had my 'satori', my first experience of Advaita.. This was only 2 weeks after his death and I kinda assumed that was rodrigo's prompting, but I dont think I ever asked him. (I didnt link my experience with rodrigo at the time, only after my meeting with sally.) It was 2 years after this I met Sally, and a further 2 years when rodrigo's spirit left me. It was a further 4 years before I reached advaita for a second time, this time from 'memory' and 'experience'...

    the spiritual protections are needed, by all of us. I did a lot of reading around this and the shamnic healer and I became friends, and she has taught me a lot.. but i find it easier just to be alone Wink no protections needed.


    mudra wrote:Well Vidya you certainly aren't having  a boring life here on earth Cheerful

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    and now.. 15 years later I aspire to a boring life in nature Wink flower
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu May 23, 2019 2:08 pm

    Vidya, sometimes I wonder if Nature (Plus Nothing) is the Real-Deal?! Not Nature (Plus Nature-Religions). Not Nature (Interpreted by Science). Just travelling through the Beauty of the Earth in some sort of a camper or motorhome (such as a converted ambulance) and living a very simple life (going for long walks in nature every day).


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    Post  Vidya Moksha on Thu May 23, 2019 3:19 pm

    I guess i am lucky not have been subjected to any religious doctrine. Growing up I always thought christianity was rather silly, and quite unbelievable. When I later came to study the esoteric religions I researched many /all but could never find a use for the bible. As a mystical tool it is quite useless... I believe Solomon never existed and I think jesus was created by the roman flavian - piso dynasty for political purposes.. based on the used-before model gods.. basically another form of the sun god.

    My world view, based on experience, based on rational thought and reasoning and based on all my studies .. is largely yogic/buddhist, accepting that we are on samsara / samskara.. we reincarnate.. we endure..

    .. as to the how and why etc, i have no idea and am interested in the experience of such things, so i will get round to my questions at some point Wink
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu May 23, 2019 10:59 pm

    Vidya, in a Historical Science-Fictional Context the Bible actually works quite well as a Bridge to Antiquity, but applying it directly to modernity seems to be highly problematic.


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    Post  Vidya Moksha on Fri May 24, 2019 4:51 am

    Oxy, breathe man! relax... maybe you should spend a few weeks in nature, as you suggested might be a good idea, switch everything off.. relax, unwind and realise how unimportant everything is.. recharged, come back and play again, but for fun..

    I did have a use for my old 'family' bible, a huge volume .. i pressed flowers with it as a kid, maybe this might help too? Wink
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    Post  Vidya Moksha on Fri May 24, 2019 2:18 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote:Vidya, in a Historical Science-Fictional Context the Bible actually works quite well as a Bridge to Antiquity, but applying it directly to modernity seems to be highly problematic.

    your severe post edits have left my christianity giggle out of context.. Wink

    so back onto this thread.. yes, agree with your statement re historical document. Its old even if its not all true, and contains much propaganda of its time which is still relevant today..

    however, in pursuit of the 'higher awarenesses' it is not a useful tool. Yoga and forms of buddhism are a reliable an accurate guide to these 'higher' states of awareness. Part of that 'doctrine' is that we are reborn according to our karma.. and we keep being re-born until we reach the final liberation, moksha...

    which then leads to the question of "are we here for a purpose?" related to this cycle of life and death, do we have to 'learn' or 'unlearn' in order to attain liberation?

    the "parts" between lives would therefore seem worthy of some understanding, if such a thing is possible..and especially if there may a 'trap' awaiting us... do you remember all your past lives in spirit, for example? ok, so you can go anywhere, but where do you know to go? just by mental projection.. i have to hope my spirit doesnt suffer aphantasia too lol!
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    Post  Swanny on Fri May 24, 2019 3:15 pm

    Vidya Moksha wrote:

    the "parts" between lives would therefore seem worthy of some understanding, if such a thing is possible..and especially if there may a 'trap' awaiting us... do you remember all your past lives in spirit, for example? ok, so you can go anywhere, but where do you know to go? just by mental projection.. i have to hope my spirit doesnt suffer aphantasia too lol!
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    IMO there are no parts in between lives. Time is not linear, all of it has happened already. The only people that talk about meeting dead relatives/friends etc on the other side are people that are still here scratch maybe they didn't really go to the other side, only thought they did.

    I'm not saying I don't believe there is another side, just that no one here knows for sure
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    Post  Vidya Moksha on Sat May 25, 2019 3:44 am

    Swanny wrote:
    IMO there are no parts in between lives. Time is not linear, all of it has happened already. The only people that talk about meeting dead relatives/friends etc on the other side are people that are still here scratch maybe they didn't really go to the other side, only thought they did.

    I'm not saying I don't believe there is another side, just that no one here knows for sure

    Your opinion is contrary to my experience.

    I quite agree about time not being linear though..

    I also agree no one knows for sure.. though astral travelling would appear to be a 'real' thing.
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    Post  Swanny on Sat May 25, 2019 4:40 am

    Appearances can be deceiving Wink
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    Post  Sanicle on Sat May 25, 2019 9:04 am

    Swanny wrote:The only people that talk about meeting dead relatives/friends etc on the other side are people that are still here scratch maybe they didn't really go to the other side, only thought they did.

    I'm not saying I don't believe there is another side, just that no one here knows for sure

    Have you read Mellen-Thomas Benedict's story Swanny?  He died of cancer - had no vital signs for 90 minutes - and came back without cancer. Crazy Happy

    Here's an excerpt of his (long) story and a link to continue reading if you choose to.  I hope you enjoy it.  I found, and still find, it fascinating. I love you

    In 1982 I died from terminal cancer. The condition I had was inoperable, and any kind of chemotherapy they could give me would just have made me more of a vegetable. I was given six to eight months to live. I had been an information freak in the 1970's, and I had become increasingly despondent over the nuclear crisis, the ecology crisis, and so forth. So, since I did not have a spiritual basis, I began to believe that nature had made a mistake, and that we were probably a cancerous organism on the planet. I saw no way that we could get out from all the problems we had created for ourselves and the planet. I perceived all humans as cancer, and that is what I got. That is what killed me. Be careful what your world view is. It can feed back on you, especially if it is a negative world view. I had a seriously negative one.



    That is what led me into my death. I tried all sort s of alternative healing methods, but nothing helped. So I determined that this was really just between me and God. I had never really faced God before, or even dealt with God. I was not into any kind of spirituality at the time, but I began a journey into learning about spirituality and alternative healing. I set out to do all the reading I could and bone up on the subject, because I did not want to be surprised on the other side. So I started reading on various religions and philosophies. They were all very interesting, and gave hope that there was something on the other side. I ended up in hospice care.



    I remember waking up one morning at home about 4:30 am and I just knew that this was it. This was the day I was going to die. So I called a few friends and said goodbye. I woke up my hospice caretaker and told her. I had a private agreement with her that she would leave my dead body alone for six hours, since I had read that all kinds of interesting things happen when you die. I went back to sleep. The next thing I remember is the beginning of a typical near death experience. Suddenly I was fully aware and I was standing up, but my body was in the bed. There was this darkness around me. Being out of my body was even more vivid than ordinary experience. It was so vivid that I could see every room in the house, I could see the top of the house, I could see around the house, I could see under the house.



    There was this Light shining. I turned toward the Light. The Light was very similar to what many other people have described in their near-death experiences. It was so magnificent. It is tangible; you can feel it. It is alluring; you want to go to it like you would want to go to your ideal mother's or father's arms. As I began to move toward the Light, I knew intuitively that if I went to the Light, I would be dead. So as I was moving toward the Light I said, "Please wait a minute, just hold on a second here. I want to think about this; I would like to talk to you before I go." To my surprise, the entire experience halted at that point. You are indeed in control of your near-death experience. You are not on a roller coaster ride.



    So my request was honored and I had some conversations with the Light. The Light kept changing into different figures, like Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, mandalas, archetypal images and signs. I asked the Light, "What is going on here? Please, Light, clarify yourself for me. I really want to know the reality of the situation." I cannot really say the exact words, because it was sort of telepathy.


    Continue reading: https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/mellen-thomas-benedict.html
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    Post  Sanicle on Sat May 25, 2019 9:13 am

    Swanny wrote:Appearances can be deceiving Wink

    Ha, you just reminded of what one of my 'guides' told me ie that it's better not to be clairvoyant as people tend to believe what they see, in whatever way.  Hmmm

    Having good intuition is much more desirable so as to wade through it all more safely. sunny
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Sat May 25, 2019 10:29 am

    I maintain that deception has everything to do with religion, the supernatural, and the history of Earth and Humanity (but I'm too deceived to know what the hell is really going on).


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    Post  Swanny on Sat May 25, 2019 2:21 pm

    Thanks Sanicle I'll have a read Double Thumbs Up

    Just for the record. I do believe in life after death. That's more real than what we call life.
    Life is just a fairground ride
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    Post  Morpheus on Sun May 26, 2019 4:03 pm

    Swanny wrote,



    "I'm not saying I don't believe there is another side, just that no one here knows for sure."


    Can I disagree? Cool It's kinda like the UFO movement, where the real question is no longer whether they exist or not, but what are they doing here? Same here in this sector of spirituality. Where the question has already been asked and answered as to whether there is an other side. But again, it depends on the experiencer. You have to prove it out. Get validation. If you can't, then it will sound like someone barking in the wind. What is important here is that you focus on proving it out for yourself. Your intention, will define your path and what gets put on it and how you deal with it.



    Remember that we have had a memory wipe just by incarnating here. You wake up. Starting from scratch. The switches start turning on. They turn on faster when you do the work to find the answers to these new questions that come flying at you. Who am I really? What am I doing here? These are just two questions. So just know that your work is cut out for you. And when you are ready, you will get downloads. You will connect. To earn your validations, you will also be tested. That requires action. Until that action is executed, everything is just BS. Talk the talk or walk the walk.


    Up to this point, I have much less in terms of conclusions. Things always go on. So nothing is ever really concluded in the big picture. But I do differ, with what we have been fed through the years as far as how the big picture is laid out. We forget that the propagating machine has been running for thousands of years. Still running. The more I turtle on, the more I see the discrepancies. Jenneta



    One of these discrepancies occurred in 2003. At that time I lived at a campground called, Harley Piautes Campground. Crescent City, FL. Right along the Saint John's River just North of Lake George. A beautiful place with tons of wildlife moving through it. A paradise of sorts. Huge Live Oaks. It has long since changed hands and is now private. I also worked at this place. Groundskeeper, jack of all trades type work.



    It was Friday evening, mid summer, and I was pretty tired from the work week. I decided to hit the hay just after 10 PM. Then it happened. A dream within a dream. Never had that happen before. The beginning of which, was the entering of an elevator. Then the elevator descended. Then, poof. I was in Billy Meier's house. Billy was standing in front of a table, arranging something on the table. He looks up at me and says, you are going to take a test. All kinds of things crossed my mind when he said that. Like, what kind of test? Multiple choice? And so on. As it turns out, the answer was "D." None of the above.



    The test, was for me to reveal God's light within me. The Divine Spark, if you will. I remember having a sense of relief, because now I knew what the test was about. The long narrow room we were in, was poorly lit. Like a single 40 watt light was the only light in the room. A hallway exited to other rooms and that was very dark, almost black. Then the moment came and I revealed that spark. A brillant golden blueish white light came out and it lit up the room in a blinding fashion. It was then that I saw them. As they shirted swiftly into the shadows of the hallway. Fast too. My little goblin buddies. Billy then says to me that the results will be conveyed to a Pleaidian council and that I passed the test. The test is now over and I am being sent back.


    On the way back, I am stopped. Apparently coming back is different than going to. It's like my spirit was thrown into a wave guide and directed towards a destination. Like a micro wave. Anyways, these goblin guys showed up. Three of them. They said that they wanted to show me something. I said, "ok." It was as though what they wanted to show me was a gift. Kind of like a reward for passing the test. So they show me this image. Strange as this image is not fixed. It's animated, alive. It's also a bunch of flowers, but you don't see the flowers as the energy moving through it desperses any fix point of reference. And yet I knew I was looking at something that was like a flower. A cosmic one. Don't know or have the words to explain it. I said, "Oh , that's nice. And thanked them for the image. Then they sent me on my way.



    It was just after 10 AM when I came to. I got up and went to the bathroom. Did my business and turned to the sink to wash the old mug and hands. Looked into the mirror and about went into shock. I had this racoon effect going on. Both eyes had black rings around them. Like bar room fight eyes. I was worried about showing up to work on Monday with these black eyes. I didn't want any questions as to what happened to you type of thing. So I turned around and made a full pot of coffee and got online to see if I could find what I was shown. I found a crop circle that showed the Flower Of Life. Took me almost 5 hours to find it. It wasn't like I knew about this Flower Of Life. I didn't know anything about it. I had to validate it with the use of resonate frequency. Once I identified it as the Flower Of Life, I found that Drumvalo website. That site doesn't resonate with the Flower Of Life at all. The only thing I found that they got right was the fact that it exists. That's it.


    Well, come to find out, my goblin buddies also played a trick on me. They inserted the Flower Of Life into my auric field. So I carried this Flower Of Life for 7 years, in my auric field, unknowingly. In 2010, I discovered it. It was no accident as to how this all unfolded and why. I spent time with it. Had a few sessions. Amazing! Even pissed off King Anu and about 300 of his Reptilian servants. I learned that Reptilians don't like to have their feet tickled. They also don't like not knowing unknown transmissions. The King got really pissed off, when I deployed the FoL, and it emitted a burst of Love frequencies into our Universe. He sent out about 300 to investigate that transmission. To which, he got no results back, not even a trace that the transmission even occurred. That sent him over the top and off the edge. To make a long story short, I gave the FoL to Gaia in a session. It was the right thing for me to do. Pay it forward.





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    Post  Vidya Moksha on Sun May 26, 2019 4:25 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote:I maintain that deception has everything to do with religion, the supernatural, and the history of Earth and Humanity (but I'm too deceived to know what the hell is really going on).

    Apart from observing the universal law "that which is searched for will not be found"...drop it, you will never know these things through reading... perhaps look into the spiritual options (astral travel).. or mystical ones.. to give yourself better 'tools' to play with, ...see with new eyes.. remove the blinds, the deceptions?...
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    Post  Vidya Moksha on Sun May 26, 2019 4:30 pm

    Morpheus wrote:
    Remember that we have had a memory wipe just by incarnating here. You wake up. Starting from scratch.

    Do you regain the memories of past lives when you return to spirit? or is it a permanent wipe?

    My niece could remember one of her previous lives when she was a young child..she could see 'spirit' (or something, ! ) in the room invisible to others too.. i read that memories are generally wiped around age 4-5? Are you saying this isnt normal, or they wipe more than the previous life?
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    Post  Sanicle on Sun May 26, 2019 8:06 pm

    Morpheus wrote:Even pissed off King Anu and about 300 of his Reptilian servants.

    Ah, so is Anu the white Dragon King you mentioned earlier? Question Naughty
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    Post  Morpheus on Tue May 28, 2019 9:08 am

    Sanicle wrote:
    Morpheus wrote:Even pissed off King Anu and about 300 of his Reptilian servants.

    Ah, so is Anu the white Dragon King you mentioned earlier?  Question  Naughty


    The king Anu I am referring to is the one down below the surface of our Planet. For that matter, I am not sure if that is really his name. Most reptilians that I am aware of have a name that is very difficult to pronounce. Anu just seems to easy. But I digress. He is of royalty and not a good guy. At last report, him and about 75 others are still loose down below. They can't leave because certain forces are preventing that from happening. He is on a most wanted list. Hopefully soon, his capture will release the bonds that bind us all on this Planet. I'm glad you asked that question, Sanicle. Simply because I do not know the name of the King White Dragon in the other Universe. I am terrible when it comes to names, titles, and labels. I can remember a face though. It might be because I have to identify the energy signatures instead. Maybe Mudra can explain it better than I. All I know is that the King White Dragon and I, are great friends. I also feel his influence here, even though he is in another Universe. This may also have played a part in terms of my survival. Also keep in mind that he is a dragon and not reptilian. Big difference, although related genetically I guess you can say.



    The Reptilians, when they put up their grid system around our World, also installed what I call filters. One such filter would make you forget your true identity when you transitioned from the spirit world
    to your physical incarnation. I have been told that this filter has been taken out of the equation. I guess around 10 years now. So that means that the kids being born now have full memory of who they are. As long as they didn't go through that reincarnation loop station operated by the darkside.
    This may also give credence to the Indigo kids.



    Vidya asked another good question. "Do you regain the memories of past lives when you return to spirit? or is it a permanent wipe?" It all depends on the awareness of the individual when they cross over. I mean there's a good chance that when you just lived a lifetime as a religious person, you will probably lean on that programming when you pass over. You'll probably react as to what you think you believe in while you were here. Remember that you haven't been debriefed yet. And if you go by what you believe when you pass, you may even get stuck between plains. Depends on how much you are convicted to your beliefs. But if you are awake, you will command your own spiritual space and if you want to remember your spiritual life, past lives and so on, recall will be instant. Again the key is to command yourself. Once you are out of this flawed body, you will probably be amazed at how limited you were within it. Again, it's a rigged system and it comes down to choices to how you allow yourself what comes next. It's your path so command it as such. Control your own destiny.



    As I get older, I have come to realize that many things are not the truth. Such as the dimensional properties we have been fed. Why is it that we count up in referencing dimensions? As in like things get better as you go up? Maybe things are in reverse. A doctor says to you that through their testing, they found a tumor that is 8 cm. in your lung. Well, 8 cm. doesn't sound that big. Now convert it to inches. 10 cm. is 3.94 inches. 39.4" = 100cm. = 1 meter. 39.4 x .10= 3.94". So 39.4 x .08= 3.15". The .08 is the 8cm. But we didn't learn any of that here in the States when we went to school. So we look at the Doc and nod our heads as though we understand. When we don't.



    I do have one conclusion on dimensions. They all have some sort of boundary. A basic parameter. Some of these boundaries on some of these dimensions even have some kind of membrane. Almost elastic like. You need some good old fashion speed to penetrate them. Another wild thing I witnessed was a dimension that was collapsing. Because of a nuclear detonation. I think this is a more important reason as to why the ETs are very concerned as to how man has terribly played the nuclear thing. Let alone the damage and loss of all life. The spirits that were in this collapsing dimension were trapped. About 300,000 of them. They appeared in orb form and were schooled together and constantly on the move to a neutral position where they could safely be together. The dimensional boundaries were expanding and contracting, creating a violent effect within the dimension. Imagine if you will a collapsed balloon blowing violently in the wind. The good news is that they were extracted out of that dimension. Brook was a major player in that rescue.



    The most common dimension I find is the second one. Creation started in the first dimension. The second dimesnion is the largest according to my filters. The rest of the dimensions are places of space where parameters define it, within the second dimension. Add wormholes that can help you gain access to these other dimensions. Just as in that crop circle where you see the third dimension in a space within a space. As to where this goes, is endless as to the possibilities. IMO, space is more like an ocean. Not just space. Things may not be so linear in our thinking.










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    Post  Swanny on Tue May 28, 2019 3:00 pm

    Vidya Moksha wrote:

    Do you regain the memories of past lives when you return to spirit? or is it a permanent wipe?

    My niece could remember one of her previous lives when she was a young child..she could see 'spirit' (or something, ! ) in the room invisible to others too..  i read that memories are generally wiped around age 4-5? Are you saying this isnt normal, or they wipe more than the previous life?

    When I first met Helen for some reason whenever I spoke to my friends about her I always called her Mary.
    Maybe that was her name from the last time around?
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    Post  Vidya Moksha on Tue May 28, 2019 4:11 pm

    Swanny wrote:
    When I first met Helen for some reason whenever I spoke to my friends about her I always called her Mary.
    Maybe that was her name from the last time around?

    I have always 'assumed' that we have a 'spiritual' family, that is separate from our biological family.. but I have no experience of these things.. there is definitely a 'connection' to some folk that resonates.. whether its just an energy compatibility or a spiritual link, I dont know.  
    If such a spiritual family exists.. when do they all get together? (or perhaps they are together if time is not linear?)... is this rebirth decision ours to take alone? do we have a 'spiritual family' to guide us?
    Do we reincarnate to be with our spiritual family again?... who knows swanny, maybe Helen will be your father next time around? Crazy Happy
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    Post  Vidya Moksha on Tue May 28, 2019 4:59 pm

    Sanicle wrote:OK, let’s play the philosophy game
     Maybe that’s as it should be, as we are instructed to “Know Thyself” BUT if we are “All One” that means we should know ALL life at every level of being – Mineral, Vegetable, Animal, Astral, etc – ie including multidimensionally.  

    I have finally caught up with this thread. I enjoyed your take on this thread Sanicle and I read some of your older posts here in the mists (I have a reliable internet for the first time in several years).. I will look for some more

    a bit of a digression but your quote above is essentially the root of all esoteric / mystical studies.. as above - so below, father and son, microcosm -macrocosm etc..
    in yogic terms "everything", (including: ALL life at every level of being – Mineral, Vegetable, Animal, Astral, multidimensionally) is "brahman".. our soul / spirit (atman) is part of brahman and by knowing ourselves, knowing atman, we can realise brahman. This is the play on words with my name here in the mists, know thyself - vidya - and realise liberation - moksha. The reality is a lot more complicated /involved / bottomless but that's the general direction to head in Wink

    The best example of this I know is easily available, 'Autobiography of a yogi'' by yogananda... essential reading and surely someone who realised the nature of life and death and reincarnation..the wheel of samsara..
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    Post  Swanny on Wed May 29, 2019 10:04 am

    Vidya Moksha wrote:
    Do we reincarnate to be with our spiritual family again?... who knows swanny, maybe Helen will be your father next time around? Crazy Happy [/size]

    I bloody well hope not Shocked
    I want to be closer to her than anything a parent can give Very Happy

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