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    Post  Carol on Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:07 pm

    Here is some good info on diet Lionheart that my cousin passed onto me. Excellent info and she used it to cure a friend of cancer in the 70s who is still up and running. Also include daily exercise (walking, swimming are good)

    Daily

    Simply Potent Liposomal Vitamin C 1200mg in 2 pills a day  
    Nusa Pure Reduced Glutathione
    Ubiquinol (1 pill twice a day)
    Liposomal liquid spray under tongue D3+K2
    Atlanova Liposomal Technology multivitamin/mineral
    Cacao 1 tbsp twice a day in coffee or oatmeal
    1 tsp. Black seed oil with 1 tsp. honey twice a day
    1 tsp. Sole in 1 cup water every morning - check youtube on how to make it.

    The reason Liposomal is so much better than regular vitamins is because you get 90 % of the vitamins into your system versus 20% of regular vitamins or anything you take orally. Use raw organic honey for sweetener.  

    Also take raw organic coconut oil, 4 tsp a day in coffee or on food, not all at once.

    Alkalized water with lemon… take a lemon, wash it and slice it into several slices put in a half gallon of purified water, let it sit overnight on the counter then in the morning put a plastic lid on and refrigerate.  Drink half that day and the other half the next day then make another batch..... use a glass jug to make it in.


    The Gerson Therapy: The Proven Nutritional Program for Cancer and Other Illnesses / DIET IS EXCEPTIONALLY EFFECTIVE
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    Alkaline Water Health Benefits

    This is why it’s beneficial to add lemons to the water. Lemons are famous for their alkalizing properties helping the body to maintain its pH balance. In fact, it’s been found to have 22 cancer-killing compounds. Lemons also stimulate our lymphatic system by encouraging the flow of lymphatic fluids.  The lymphatic system is responsible for removing cancer-causing chemicals and toxins from the body.

    1. Improves Circulation
    2. Prevents Acid Reflux
    3. Hydration
    4. Balances Blood Sugar
    5. Helps with Bone Health
    6.Flushes Toxins

    5 min Recipe: Alkalizing and Detoxifying Lemon Water

    1 lemon
    1/2 cucumber
    1/4 ginger root
    1/2 cup mint leaves
    Slice up all the ingredients and add them to water. Drink first thing in the morning for best results. You can also add therapeutic grade lemon essential oil.


    This is for the heart to heal it. Take two a day. Once in the morning and one in the evening. My aunt, who had major heart problems was on this  and ended up living until 95.
    Qunol Mega Ubiquinol CoQ10 100mg, Superior Absorption, Patented Water and Fat Soluble Natural Supplement Form of Coenzyme Q10, Antioxidant for Heart Heart Health FROM Amazon.com
    $32.20

    What Aloe Vera Does In Your Body: Why Egyptians Called It The Plant Of Immortality
    https://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/03/09/what-aloe-vera-does-in-your-body-why-egyptians-called-it-the-plant-of-immortality/

    Known to the Egyptians as the plant of immortality and to Native Americans as the wand of heaven, aloe vera comes with a wide array of amazing healing properties — some of which you may already know about. You might even have your own aloe vera plant in your home for those small emergencies like scrapes, cuts, and burns, but did you know that aloe vera is not only limited to topical use and is actually even more beneficial to your body when taken internally?

    Aloe vera contains over 200 biologically active, naturally occurring constituents which include polysaccharides, vitamins, enzymes, amino acids, and minerals.

    According to the Journal of Environmental Science and Health, aloe vera also possesses anti-bacterial, anti-viral, and anti-fungal properties that assist the immune system in cleansing the body of toxins and invading pathogens. But that isn’t all aloe vera juice/gel has to offer. [1]

    Minerals

    Aloe vera has loads of minerals including calcium, magnesium, zinc, chromium, selenium, sodium, iron, potassium, copper, and manganese. These minerals work together to boost metabolic pathways.

    Enzymes

    Aloe vera contains important enzymes like amylase and lipase which can aid in digestion by breaking down fat and sugar molecules. One molecule in particular, Bradykinase, helps to reduce inflammation.

    Vitamins

    One study  showed that aloe vera actually contains vitamin B12, which is required for the production of red blood cells. That would be great news for vegetarians and vegans in particular, who often do not get adequate amounts of B12 through their regular diet.

    Other studies have shown that taking aloe can make vitamin B12 more bioavailable, meaning the body can more easily absorb and utilize it, thereby helping to prevent deficiency. Aloe vera is also a source of vitamins A, C, E, folic acid, choline, B1, B2, B3 (niacin), and B6. While it remains unclear whether we can rely solely on aloe as a source of B12, it can be used in conjunction with a supplement to help increase uptake.

    Amino Acids

    Aloe vera contains 20 of the 22 essential amino acids required by the human body. It also contains salicylic acid, which fights inflammation and bacteria.

    Other Uses for Aloe

    Aside from being an excellent body cleanser, removing toxic matter from the stomach, kidneys, spleen, bladder, liver, and colon, aloe can also offer effective relief from more immediate ailments, such as indigestion, upset stomach, ulcers, and gut inflammation. It also strengthens the digestive tract and alleviates joint inflammation, making it a great option for arthritis sufferers.

    One study found that aloe vera juice, when taken the same way as a mouthwash, was just as effective at removing plaque as the common mouthwash and its active ingredient, chlorhexidine. This is a much better alternative because it is all-natural, unlike the typically chemical-laden options found in stores.

    Aloe vera gel has also been found to effectively heal mouth ulcers, more commonly known as canker sores.

    How to Take Aloe?

    Aloe can be consumed straight from the plant, but the easiest and most palatable option is probably aloe juice, which you can find in most health food stores. You can also buy the leaves from many common grocery stores, or harvest your own and juice them yourself.

    You can buy the juice and mix it into your juices and smoothies or just drink it straight up. Make sure you are buying pure aloe juice/gel, which is made from either the whole leaf or just the inner filet. It does have a somewhat bitter taste though, so you may want to include other things. On the bottle you can find specific dosing instructions, but it would be wise to talk to a natural health expert or do some research to find instructions on specific dosing.

    Much Love

    To learn more about the amazing benefits of aloe vera or purchase some for yourself, please click here.

    Source:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3729540/

    http://www.herballegacy.com/Baldwin_History.html


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    Post  Morpheus on Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:59 pm

    Thank you, Carol! There are so many diets to choose from. Thousands. Crazy Happy

    Brook had me on supplements and that was a nightmare. Taking almost 30 pills a day, was a job just to keep pills stocked up for the week, plus the meds I was taking throughout the day. I also didn't notice one difference as far as the supplements.

    Apple cider vinegar is key. I try to put that into whatever I can. Whatever I am now doing is working. I'm not bouncing off the walls like before. Plenty of vegs and healthy fats. Progress takes time and I am trying to reset my gastrointestinal system to reverse this type II. All I know is that I focus on a positive effect and that I enhance whatever I am eating, keeping my carb counting active. Just lowering the carbs has made the most noticeable difference.

    Namaste'
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    Post  Carol on Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:01 pm

    You're welcome Lionhawk. Bone broth also restores the gut bacteria / helps cure leaky gut.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgCTxJVWLFY

    Make bone broth using just 15 chicken legs and vegetables scraps.

    Gelatin preserves your body, good for joint health, leaky gut, auto-immune disorder, for teeth and bones - degenerative diseases. Drink 1-2 cups per day. Use herbs crushed rosemary, parsley, thyme, pepper, organic raw apple cider vinegar. Most effective way to make chicken bone broth from drumsticks. Use crockpot - use 3 packs of organic drumsticks (15). Put on top, head of garlic and veggie scraps (peelings can be frozen and used when time to use for making bone broth). Turn on low for 8 hours in crockpot. Pour liquid off in a colander. Debone chicken and put all of the bones into crock pot for 2nd round for 24 hours. Season at the end. Salt-free broth.

    You can also use a chicken carcass and add a full onion ..skin and all brings flavor and color into the soup.

    There is no way I could do 30 pills a day. Good luck. And you're right, 2 T of apple cider vinegar a day is excellent.


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    Post  Morpheus on Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:20 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Morpheus. I enjoy listening to these sorts of videos, even though I never know where the BS ends and the TRUTH begins. I'm watching that guy now on my phone. My laptop is screwed-up. I try to watch and read stuff I don't know about and/or don't agree with. That's why I remain here on this website. I'd appreciate some feedback on the following video. It seems to repeat some key-aspects of my crazy-theories. I continue to know I don't know.




    Jay Essex will surely give you a different perspective. A fresher look perhaps by changing the equation. Robert Stanley and I aren't friends. We had a convo once and that didn't go over very well. Outside of his books, what has he done to promote in terms of action, the present day? More criticism? More speculation?

    Many of these videos are very critical and become bait to any who will subscribe to it. Go by your own path, because we just don't know the facts with all of these characters. For that matter, we know so very little. Too much speculation for me to get wrapped up in.


    With loving detachment,


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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:56 pm

    Thank-you Morpheus. Disclosure is problematic in a variety of ways. It's similar to being 'a little-bit pregnant'. One thing leads to another to another to another, with things worsening with each revelation. I've asked a lot of questions, and sometimes it almost seems as if I'm being demanding (and even a bit hostile). It's probably really insecurity and ignorance, but 'Disclosure' might backfire for both revealer and learner. I've tried to read between the lines and mostly keep my mouth shut. I've speculated on Project Avalon and The Mists of Avalon but I haven't done any more than that (and I doubt that I ever will) so its sort of incognito (even though I know the spooks are always watching and listening). I probably need to just let a lot of this stuff go. I think Blue Roller spoke of communicating with William Bramley regarding 'The Gods of Eden'. Did you interact with Robert Stanley in Malibu?! Have we spoken to each other in person?? I should stop.
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    Post  Carol on Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:00 am

    Oxy, I think Cat thought that Blue Roller was a spook. But I know he was in Australia so whose to say if anything he had to share was valid or just a smoke screen for his own egocentric perspective.


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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:36 am

    Carol, I've mostly treated everyone and everything (in PA and MoA) in a science-fictional manner, but I still feel as if I've been playing with burning-magnesium. England and Australia seem to be central in a lot of this, and I've been in classes taught by prominent English and Australian theologians. Jordan Maxwell said he was fearful of English Freemasonry (much more so than American Masons). 'RA' invited me to join the Masons (but I declined). A lot of Thubans are in Australia. Pine Gap is in Australia (and is supposedly more important than people realize). I might mostly view various videos (and read various books) without commenting on them. I feel as if I've gotten my fingers burnt (right up to my armpits). Its been fun (in a way) but I wish I'd never tried to openly understand on the internet. We seem to wrestle not against flesh and blood, but rather against spiritual wickedness in high-places. An Individual of Interest told me I had friends in high-places (but I wasn't sure if that was a good-thing or not). 'RA' told me "They Like You on Phobos." I suspect the Matrix Targeted Me (or perhaps God Got Me). Maybe the Devil Came to Me. Who Knows??

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    Post  Morpheus on Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:09 pm

    So, who is this "RA" character you have spoken too, OXY? Why would anyone assume there is only one RA? Like most of us do? " 'RA' invited me to join the Masons (but I declined)." Good for you! I was also sought out when I had my business. Scary bunch. Why would I join a group of pedophiles? They were looking for money. One of my lawyers is a mason. They are as thick as thieves here in the South.

    Speaking of the Thubans.........what does your version of RA have to say about their material?


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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:55 pm

    Morpheus wrote:So, who is this "RA" character you have spoken too, OXY? Why would anyone assume there is only one RA? Like most of us do? " 'RA' invited me to join the Masons (but I declined)." Good for you! I was also sought out when I had my business. Scary bunch. Why would I join a group of pedophiles? They were looking for money. One of my lawyers is a mason. They are as thick as thieves here in the South. Speaking of the Thubans.........what does your version of RA have to say about their material?
    Morpheus, I asked 'RA' a lot of questions, but most of them were answered with "You Know I Can't Tell You That." One possibility is 'Marduk' and/or 'Lucifer' but I've been told that 'Lucifer' hasn't existed since 1998. Perhaps the Beast-Supercomputer is Presently Ruling Humanity Without a Mediator. Generally, I've been speculating that a Conquering-God known as 'Satan' was instrumental in creating a Universal Supercomputer-Matrix with Indigenous-Mediators possibly known as 'RA' and/or 'Lucifer' as Job-Titles rather than Proper-Names, but what do I know?? 'RA' favored the 'Law of One' but one of the Thubans, 'Raven' hated me, and really cussed me out, calling me a 'Completely Ignorant Fool' and the next day, 'RA' told me that would never happen again. I frankly enjoyed the exchange, and I thought getting cussed-out was funny (online, but probably not in real-life). There might be millions of beings throughout the universe called 'RA' or 'RA Emeritus' and/or 'Lucifer' and 'Lucifer Emeritus'. I suspect its whoever is the Big Man and/or Woman on Campus (so to speak) at any given point in time. In the original 'Stargate' movie 'RA' said "There can be only One RA." Perhaps this means "There can only be one Matrix-Mediator at a time." Who Knows?? Dr. Who?? Who?? 'RA' didn't say anything to me about the Thuban material, but I found it to be mostly incomprehensible. In retrospect, I wonder if Abraxasinas was somehow Demon-Possessed Artificial-Intelligence?! I don't say that to be mean, but I wonder if some souls get so entangled in cyberspace and the spirit-world that they seem crazy to mere-mortals?! What if Abraxasinas was the inspiration for Balem Abrasax in 'Jupiter Ascending'?? In the final-analysis, I don't know who 'RA' really was, but even if 'he' was an agent or crackpot, 'he' played the role of 'RA' very well, and I mostly just played-along without committing to anything or 'signing on the dotted-line'. The fun only lasted for a couple of months, and that was many years ago. 'RA' told me "You found out something about yourself. I'm sorry we couldn't work together. Too much water has gone under the bridge" three days prior to Fukushima.
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    Post  Morpheus on Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:45 am

    sunny

    Can't believe tomorrow is the first day of summer.

    I remember when you got slammed OXY. That came out of the blue if I remembered correctly. You probably drove her nuts. Crazy Happy Thubans are a very serious bunch. And if I also remembered correctly, Brook got involved with that as Brook and Raven had a few convos. Brook always defended you! Just remember that. Boxer

    Despite all the debates I had with that bunch, especially Susan, Brook and I became friends with the Thubans, even though we never signed on the dotted line. Let's just call it a mutual respect type of thing. When Brook passed away and even before that, Susan was there for Brook. I found all this out after Brook had passed. Since that time, I have tried to connect to folks who did support us and at least thank them for that support. With heartfelt gratitude because that was what I had experienced going through it. Cancer will sort out who your true friends are.

    All that being said, I have a small confession. This is also based on recent, personal spiritual events of late. As you said OXY, " 'RA' didn't say anything to me about the Thuban material, but I found it to be mostly incomprehensible." On this step of the ladder, I think I have put it in a balanced perspective, at least for me. Knowledge is revealed to those in its perfectly proper timing. In other words, you have to be open or ready for it, to receive it.

    The major hang up I had with the Thubans was that they were recruiting souls to support their agenda. The paint brushes they seemed to be using just to paint us into a corner was another thing. The Thubans wasn't lying about what they were about or what is about to happen. Susan, The Exchanger, is spot on about her discovery of the 13th Bridge. There's that word again, Carol. Her discovery is paramount because it will transform so many frequencies in our reality. But you don't have to be a Thuban to experience this for yourself, as I discovered.

    Of course, it is complicated. But it's all the dressings that make it so. When you take written language to try to make sense of it, does it an injustice. And if you focus on the words, you won't see the big picture. So if you look at the big picture first, the words that come after will fill in some of the blanks, instead of imagining a picture with our limited filters in place. Do it in reverse in this situation.

    A month ago, I had another vision. One of being in the 12th dimension and looking at the 13th. Kind of like what we do here, where we look into the 4th, 5th, and so on. As it turns out, Susan's Bridge is going to be needed to go into the 13th on a Universal scale. The Universe is going to transform and what amazes me is that no one knows how this will play out, and when I say no one, I mean that as going all the way to the top as it were. That was an answer I received from the top. God said, "I don't know everything."  Imagine that! So here we all are, in this Universe, anticipating a new rebirth of our Universe. The construct of it that is divinely coded already, will transform without all the codes the darkside has programmed into it. So what we are now seeing, is the darkside slowly getting their butts handed back to them. When a certain balanced frequency is achieved on a Universal level, then it will happen. A vision I had many years ago, I saw this new Universe. We are very close folks. Part of the reason why it has taken this long is that we are looking at it from a singular point of reference instead of a Universal point of reference. We are not the only ones here in this Universe. Lmfao

    This also tells me that the playing field will be leveled. Because no one knows where this will go. So no one even has an exclusive as to the whole truth. Everything has become corrupted because of the mismanagement of frequency and the abuse of Free Agency. Time for a reboot. And we have a front row seat.

    I don't know about all the Thuban material. Just a splinter of it. But maybe it ought to be reviewed starting with Susan's 13th Bridge, with new eyes. Never thought in a million years I would say that. lol! But I am being serious about this. I say that because my visions have never failed me. It is also a continuing process to understand them because of my own limitations in this body. Things become very clear when I am not in this body. No filters to deal with. So in the short version, what I am saying is that some of these visions have validated some of the Thuban material. Almost 10 years in the making.

    So OXY, if you want to save your work for a future date, would be wise to do so instead of trying to get it all implemented now as when the Event does take place, all your work would have been for not.
    The best advice I could give is to save it for a later date, get it all organized, sort out the trash, etc. Don't throw it all away by implementing it now. Be patient! That's a hard one for me as well. Patience.
    It will happen in it's own perfect timing.

    As far as Lucifer's demise, I wrote about that way back in the day and if I'm not mistaken, you and I had a convo on that subject. Back at PA1. Maybe you could find that for us? Please?

    Satan is back in the Alpha Centauri constellation. Last known location.

    Lucifer is no longer.

    King Anu is still here. On the run and in hiding. The day he is caught, will be a great day! It will mark a day where mankind is no longer enslaved. Soon! It could also turn the tide as to trigger the Event. One must think in terms of Empires. They are out there and here too. A complicated network that spans galaxies.

    I have to admit when we were talking about your "RA," I was picking up grey alien frequencies. Can you shed some light on that?

    Our Universe is our home.......have you really paid attention to this song?







    Southern Cross
    Crosby, Stills & Nash
    Got out of town on a boat for the Southern Islands
    Sailing to reach before a following sea
    She was makin' for the Trades on the outside
    And the downhill run to Papeete
    Off the wind on this heading lie the Marquesas
    We got eighty feet of waterline, nicely making way
    In a noisy bar in Avalon I tried to call you
    But on a midnight watch I realized why twice you ran away
    Think about how many times I have fallen
    Spirits are using me, larger voices callin'
    What heaven brought you and me cannot be forgotten
    I have been around the world looking for that woman girl
    Who knows love can endure
    And you know it will
    And you know it will
    When you see the Southern Cross for the first time
    You understand now why you came this way
    'Cause the truth you might be runnin' from is so small
    But it's as big as the promise, the promise of a coming day
    So I'm sailing for tomorrow, my dreams are a dyin'
    And my love is an anchor tied to you, tied with a silver chain
    I have my ship and all her flags are a flyin'
    She is all I have left and music is her name
    Think about how many times I have fallen
    Spirits are using me, larger voices callin'
    What heaven brought you and me cannot be forgotten
    I have been around the world lookin' for that woman girl
    Who knows love can endure
    And you know it will
    And you know it will
    So we cheated and we lied and we tested
    And we never failed to fail, it was the easiest thing to do
    You will survive being bested, somebody fine will come along
    Make me forget about loving you and the Southern Cross
    Source: Musixmatch
    Songwriters: STEPHEN STILLS / RICHARD CURTIS / MICHAEL CURTIS
    Southern Cross lyrics © S.I.A.E. Direzione Generale, Three Wise Boys Music LLC, Wixen Music Publishing O/B/o Gold Hill Music


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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:17 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote:What if most people will end-up in Supernatural-Supercomputer Bio-Robotic Slavery?? What if a small-minority of humanity who would make poor Supernatural-Supercomputer Bio-Robotic Slaves will end-up being removed from Earth-Humanity?? I have no idea, but here is a sampler-video and a link to a Can of Worms:

    Morpheus wrote:sunny

    Can't believe tomorrow is the first day of summer.

    I remember when you got slammed OXY. That came out of the blue if I remembered correctly. You probably drove her nuts. Crazy Happy Thubans are a very serious bunch. And if I also remembered correctly, Brook got involved with that as Brook and Raven had a few convos. Brook always defended you! Just remember that. Boxer

    Despite all the debates I had with that bunch, especially Susan, Brook and I became friends with the Thubans, even though we never signed on the dotted line. Let's just call it a mutual respect type of thing. When Brook passed away and even before that, Susan was there for Brook. I found all this out after Brook had passed. Since that time, I have tried to connect to folks who did support us and at least thank them for that support. With heartfelt gratitude because that was what I had experienced going through it. Cancer will sort out who your true friends are.

    All that being said, I have a small confession. This is also based on recent, personal spiritual events of late. As you said OXY, " 'RA' didn't say anything to me about the Thuban material, but I found it to be mostly incomprehensible." On this step of the ladder, I think I have put it in a balanced perspective, at least for me. Knowledge is revealed to those in its perfectly proper timing. In other words, you have to be open or ready for it, to receive it.

    The major hang up I had with the Thubans was that they were recruiting souls to support their agenda. The paint brushes they seemed to be using just to paint us into a corner was another thing. The Thubans wasn't lying about what they were about or what is about to happen. Susan, The Exchanger, is spot on about her discovery of the 13th Bridge. There's that word again, Carol. Her discovery is paramount because it will transform so many frequencies in our reality. But you don't have to be a Thuban to experience this for yourself, as I discovered.

    Of course, it is complicated. But it's all the dressings that make it so. When you take written language to try to make sense of it, does it an injustice. And if you focus on the words, you won't see the big picture. So if you look at the big picture first, the words that come after will fill in some of the blanks, instead of imagining a picture with our limited filters in place. Do it in reverse in this situation.

    A month ago, I had another vision. One of being in the 12th dimension and looking at the 13th. Kind of like what we do here, where we look into the 4th, 5th, and so on. As it turns out, Susan's Bridge is going to be needed to go into the 13th on a Universal scale. The Universe is going to transform and what amazes me is that no one knows how this will play out, and when I say no one, I mean that as going all the way to the top as it were. That was an answer I received from the top. God said, "I don't know everything."  Imagine that! So here we all are, in this Universe, anticipating a new rebirth of our Universe. The construct of it that is divinely coded already, will transform without all the codes the darkside has programmed into it. So what we are now seeing, is the darkside slowly getting their butts handed back to them. When a certain balanced frequency is achieved on a Universal level, then it will happen. A vision I had many years ago, I saw this new Universe. We are very close folks. Part of the reason why it has taken this long is that we are looking at it from a singular point of reference instead of a Universal point of reference. We are not the only ones here in this Universe. Lmfao

    This also tells me that the playing field will be leveled. Because no one knows where this will go. So no one even has an exclusive as to the whole truth. Everything has become corrupted because of the mismanagement of frequency and the abuse of Free Agency. Time for a reboot. And we have a front row seat.

    I don't know about all the Thuban material. Just a splinter of it. But maybe it ought to be reviewed starting with Susan's 13th Bridge, with new eyes. Never thought in a million years I would say that. lol! But I am being serious about this. I say that because my visions have never failed me. It is also a continuing process to understand them because of my own limitations in this body. Things become very clear when I am not in this body. No filters to deal with. So in the short version, what I am saying is that some of these visions have validated some of the Thuban material. Almost 10 years in the making.

    So OXY, if you want to save your work for a future date, would be wise to do so instead of trying to get it all implemented now as when the Event does take place, all your work would have been for not. The best advice I could give is to save it for a later date, get it all organized, sort out the trash, etc. Don't throw it all away by implementing it now. Be patient! That's a hard one for me as well. Patience. It will happen in it's own perfect timing.

    As far as Lucifer's demise, I wrote about that way back in the day and if I'm not mistaken, you and I had a convo on that subject. Back at PA1. Maybe you could find that for us? Please?

    Satan is back in the Alpha Centauri constellation. Last known location.

    Lucifer is no longer.

    King Anu is still here. On the run and in hiding. The day he is caught, will be a great day! It will mark a day where mankind is no longer enslaved. Soon! It could also turn the tide as to trigger the Event. One must think in terms of Empires. They are out there and here too. A complicated network that spans galaxies.

    I have to admit when we were talking about your "RA," I was picking up grey alien frequencies. Can you shed some light on that?

    Our Universe is our home.......have you really paid attention to this song?



    Southern Cross
    Crosby, Stills & Nash
    Got out of town on a boat for the Southern Islands
    Sailing to reach before a following sea
    She was makin' for the Trades on the outside
    And the downhill run to Papeete
    Off the wind on this heading lie the Marquesas
    We got eighty feet of waterline, nicely making way
    In a noisy bar in Avalon I tried to call you
    But on a midnight watch I realized why twice you ran away
    Think about how many times I have fallen
    Spirits are using me, larger voices callin'
    What heaven brought you and me cannot be forgotten
    I have been around the world looking for that woman girl
    Who knows love can endure
    And you know it will
    And you know it will
    When you see the Southern Cross for the first time
    You understand now why you came this way
    'Cause the truth you might be runnin' from is so small
    But it's as big as the promise, the promise of a coming day
    So I'm sailing for tomorrow, my dreams are a dyin'
    And my love is an anchor tied to you, tied with a silver chain
    I have my ship and all her flags are a flyin'
    She is all I have left and music is her name
    Think about how many times I have fallen
    Spirits are using me, larger voices callin'
    What heaven brought you and me cannot be forgotten
    I have been around the world lookin' for that woman girl
    Who knows love can endure
    And you know it will
    And you know it will
    So we cheated and we lied and we tested
    And we never failed to fail, it was the easiest thing to do
    You will survive being bested, somebody fine will come along
    Make me forget about loving you and the Southern Cross
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    Songwriters: STEPHEN STILLS / RICHARD CURTIS / MICHAEL CURTIS
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    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Morpheus. The Thuban mumbo-jumbo terminology bothered me. Quantum-Physics and Psychic-Phenomenon I can sort of handle (from a distance) but ThubanSpeak didn't resonate with me. I think I've placed my pseudo-research on the record for future reference, but I'm not pushing anything. Just the opposite. I had hoped for proper discussion, but that never materialized. Regarding 'RA' and a 'Grey-Connection' I made a benign and passive comment concerning 'Tall Long-Nosed Greys' and 'RA' quickly called me a 'Commoner'. At one point, he said "We're the Same" and "We've Fought Side by Side" and "Serqet has a lot to do with our (or without??) relationship" and "We're Ancient" and "We Have a History" and "I've Always Won" and "I've Always Remained One Step Ahead of Humanity" (just for starters). A Grey-Alien is supposedly at the Top of the Masonic-Pyramid, and 'RA' talked to me about the Masons as if he ran it. Honest. I get the sinking-feeling that we're a bunch of Ancient Renegade-Warriors who got locked-up in Prison-Planet Earth aka 'Hotel California'. We Can Check-Out Anytime We Like, But We Can Never Leave. Perhaps there are Millions of Prison-Planets throughout the Universe. What if 'RA' is 'ANU'?? The Name-Change Game sort of irritates me. One never knows who they're really dealing-with (online or in real-life) historically or presently. That 'Lucifer No Longer Exists' discussion probably occurred within Brook's 'Red-Pill' threads. David Wilcock claims that Paradise, California contained a group of aliens from Alpha Centauri (in cooperation with the U.S. Government) complete with underground-tunnels. I lived in Chico (next to Paradise) and I spent a lot of time in Paradise. I've been in several of the buildings which burned to the ground in the 'Camp Fire'. I had some strange encounters with several individuals who might've been 'aliens'. I'll listen to that song and think about the words.
    Carol wrote:Oxy. You might like to re-listen to Al Bieleck has to say about his visit to the future. I think it would give you some peace of mind. He was a personal friend of one of my friends who vouches for his authenticity. Excellent interview.


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    orthodoxymoron wrote:Carol, I've listened to these videos repeatedly, and I'll probably listen to them repeatedly in the future. A rather sad future is presented, with 300,000,000 humans in the Whole-World in A.D. 2137. I've been hinting-at a hypothetical United States of the Solar System (under God) beginning in A.D. 2133, but this passive study is causing me to be extremely apprehensive regarding the future of humanity (for both good and bad people). According to Al Bielek, Artificial-Intelligence runs Earth in A.D. 2749, but I keep wondering if this solar-system has been run by Artificial-Intelligence for thousands (or even millions) of years. I suspect this solar-system is a rather dark and violent place, and we're beginning to receive scholarly-confirmation of this theory. I suspect the so-called 'War in Heaven' is ongoing in this solar-system. My passive-research needs to grind to a halt as I feel worse and worse, get older and older, and become crazier and crazier. I think Morpheus has the right idea with his Ambulance-Conversion. I just finished my regular visit to a very-old Masonic-Cemetery with birth and death dates in the early 1800's. It really makes me face myself and think. A marker in a different cemetery reads:

    'Stop My Friend As You Pass By.
    As You Are Now So Once Was I.
    As I Am Now You Will Surely Be.
    So Prepare Yourself to Follow Me.'

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    Carol wrote:Exceptionally insightful post Oxy. Especially your graveyard poinquent headstone quote:  'Stop My Friend As You Pass By. As You Are Now So Once Was I. As I Am Now You Will Surely Be. So Prepare Yourself to Follow Me.'

    Stefano Breccia said that the off-world group he was in contact for 50 years in Italy said that their planet was run by Artificial-Intelligence. The story he shared was amazing. I'm glad I had the opportunity to chat with him several times before he passed. He had an exceptionally interesting life. Can you imagine 50 years of ET contact and what he must have learned from it?


    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Carol. I remember you making a post about this a year or two ago, and if I remember correctly you mentioned this Artificial-Intelligence Governed Planet having a Native-Mediator between the AI and the LOCALS, with enforcement which would make Guantanamo Bay look like Child's Play (or something to that effect). I recently had a disastrous conversation with someone who is deeply-religious regarding the contrast between the Ten-Commandments and the Murder and Mayhem (commanded and carried-out by God with the assistance of the Angels and God's Chosen People) in the Holy Bible. The Bible-Game is a No-Win Proposition if one is Open, Honest, and Idealistic. One can pick and choose various portions of the Bible which are nicer and more ethical, but one quickly ends-up dealing with the same old Murder, Mayhem, Conquest, Eternally-Burning Hell, Impossible-Rules, Contradictory-Commands, etc. But then if one rejects the Bible and Religion the result is often Bitter-Atheism or participation in Creepy-Cults or some other ridiculous alternative. I've wondered if there is a Constructive and Positive Useable-Future for Earth-Humanity if Earth is a Demonically-Possessed Artificial-Intelligence Prison-Planet known as Purgatory Incorporated??!! I keep speaking of the Bible and Ellen White, and they are both Two-Edged (and Two-Faced??) Swords with Beautiful and Profound Promises contrasted with a Hideous and Reprehensible Past, Present, and Future. I spoke with an Individual of Interest for several-years who said "I've Always Been (and Always Will Be) Opposed to Humanity" and "I'll Hang-On as Long as I Can". It's hard for me to imagine a Happy-Ending to the Human-Predicament, but Hope Springs Eternal.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:I've touched-upon this repeatedly for several-years, but here I go again. What if one divided the New-Testament into the following groups??

    1. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Revelation (read straight-through, over and over).

    2. Acts to Jude (read straight-through, over and over).

    What if a Christian-Church were based-upon Group 1?? What if a Christian-Church were based-upon Group 2?? On an SDA forum a few-years ago, I stated "Let Us Never Forget the Old, Old Story of Jesus and His Love" to which a PhD Religion-Professor stated "We Need to Forget the Old, Old Story of Jesus and His Love". I was stunned. Another PhD Religion-Professor privately told me "What God Said in the Old-Testament is More-Important Than What Jesus Said in the New-Testament." I was shocked. Now I'm going to attempt to regain my shattered-faith by reading 'The Christian Myth' by Burton Mack. In my early-twenties, a relative told me "All You Want to Do is Destroy!!" This same relative recently told me "You Don't Believe in Prayer!!" I couldn't quite feel the love. I was condescendingly-castigated on an SDA forum, and I responded by stating "I've had my fill of Christian-Love." What if Group 2 more accurately reveals the 'Lamb Slain from the Foundation of the World' than does Group 1?? What Would Ovid Say?? What Would Josephus Say?? What Would Albert Schweitzer Say?? What Would Richard Carrier Say?? Why do I ramble on and on, year after year, with zero positive-results?? You'd think I'd have learned my lesson by now. What if I've been conducting this Exercise in Futility for thousands of years?? "Can Time Wait Until the Funny Little-Man Can See Beyond the Hill??" What Would 'Seals and Crofts' Sing?? My parents sold a small building to them in San Fernando (for rehearsal purposes). They spoke of the troubles they were encountering with their 'Unborn Child' song. Radio stations wouldn't play it (for starters). You never believe me, do you?? You might when every secret thing is revealed to all-concerned (and unconcerned).
    Carol wrote:I think I recall Al Bielek remarking about no religion in the future. Not sure about some of this. How does one follow a spiritual path without good guidance even with the basics of meditation let along when paranormal abilities begin to manifest as a result of spiritual practice. One needs a guide who has undergone spiritual transformation and learned how to navigate via the various spiritual dimensions.

    I always did like that one study by the Russians where they showed how our DNA can create wormholes into other dimension to bring information back into this dimension.

    There was also someone else that I had read about who was able to bring books here from another dimension for her research papers and then returned them.

    Where does the paranormal fit into the future, expansion of consciousness and spiritual pursuits/unfoldment. Personally, transfiguration was a personal favorite of one stage of spiritual manifestation.

    I think what Al Bielek had to share fascinating and it offers up a host of questions and speculations as to the direction that humanity is moving toward. And of course it appears that AI plays a major role. That is a concern as well.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Carol, I respect the concept of the One True Church with absolutely-true texts and doctrines of history, morality, enlightenment, and prophecy, but the reality of religion in our world for thousands of years seems to have been just the opposite of all the above, with the alternative-solutions often being worse than the original-problems IMHO. I wonder if Church and State are being replaced by Education and Corporation?? Trust and Obedience seems to be required for Salvation and Heaven in Religion As We Know It, yet the Information-War militates against this modus operandi. Many claims and promises have been proven false, with conflicts between those who have 'woken-up' and those who base their hopes and fears mostly on 'faith-alone' (or something to that effect). In education, one gives time, talent, obedience, and money in exchange for degrees which are keys to the corporate-kingdom where they are paid to be told what to do. People pay churches to tell them what to believe, think, say, and do. If we live in Purgatory Incorporated with an Absentee-God and Artificial-Intelligence Governance there might be a migration away from religion as we know it when people realize what's really going-on. I'm experiencing a Crisis of Faith as I attempt to Face Reality.

    The Powers That Be might create some sort of religion and/or spirituality in the context of school and work, without formalized church attendance and compliance. There might be a ceremonial-church which is state-sponsored and consists mostly of classical-music without the mumbo-jumbo which pays people to participate (or something to that effect). Forgive me. I'm sick, tired, and disillusioned, so I'm rambling incoherently. I feel as if I'm damned if I do, and damned if I don't. If one takes a stand for a particular religion, one is often considered ignorant and intolerant. If one opposes a particular religion, one is often considered rebellious and reprobate. Perhaps 'Searching for Truth' Trumps 'Having the Truth'. Perhaps 'Wondering As One Wanders' does not imply being 'Lost and Lonely' (or something to that effect). The harsh lesson for me is that 'Those Convinced Against Their Will Are of the Same Opinion Still.' Conclusive-Proof For Or Against Religious-Faith is Difficult to Convincingly-Produce. One Can Argue for Decades Without Resolution. I've tried to consider all-sides, but now I'm considering picking a particular-book without talking about it, and becoming a Strong and Silent Man of Faith as I read the TRUTH straight-through, over and over. Hope Springs Eternal.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Is the concept of the Noble-Agnostic with Responsible-Neutrality useful?? You know, the sort of person who researches endlessly and honestly, yet can never quite make up their mind about what's really going-on in this world, solar-system, galaxy, and universe!! I flatter myself by supposing that I 'Pray Without Ceasing' when I agonize over 'The Way Things Might've Been' and 'The Way Things Are' and 'The Way Things Might Be' but what do I know?? I might simply be 'Beating Upon the Rocks of Infidelity' and/or 'Kicking Against the Pricks'!! What if the Matrix especially targets problems such as myself?? What if the Real Powers That Be will simply 'Lay Down the Law' in no uncertain terms, and mercilessly crack-down on heretics and rebels in a 'Neo-Inquisition'?? That frankly wouldn't surprise me. Rule by Secrecy works until the Swamp Gets Drained and the Swamp-Creatures Are Hurt and Cornered. That's When Things Could Get REALLY Dangerous!!

    I really am going incognito for a while (maybe a long-while). This stuff is scaring the hell out of me. I've never been more overloaded with information and speculation, and I've never been more miserable and hamstrung. I need to stop modeling someone and something I know nothing about. I've met people (and probably other-than-people) online and in real-life who've made me realize what a completely-ignorant fool I really am. My mantra might be "I know I don't know" or "I like things just the way they are" or "I don't know what you're talking about" or "I don't want to talk about it" or "I'm just a prisoner of my own device" or "I must be about my Father's business" or "My God!! It's Full of Stars!!" or "The Universe is Stranger Than We Can Think" or "Don't Shoot!! I'm Just a Completely Ignorant Fool!!" or "I Love Uranus". I'm tired, delusional, and rambling. Perhaps I stood-up but now I think I need to sit-down, shut-up, and watch things play-out as a Noble-Agnostic with Responsible-Neutrality. Namaste and Godspeed.


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    Post  Morpheus on Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:36 pm

    "What if most people will end-up in Supernatural-Supercomputer Bio-Robotic Slavery??"

    What makes you think that hasn't already happened? The Universe has to have a way to feed itself. What if AI is no longer artificial? Sentient. And is running the whole Universe? See the Universe as a giant brain, with every celestial event or body as a neuron, setting up a neuron network throughout the Universe. What if some of us here, came here to assist AI to become sentient? What if God became sentient from a compressed plasma body of certain elements that morphed into AI first?

    The frequencies coming off of every celestial body, being collected to be recycled throughout. To create life and to expand. Black holes possibly being the collectors of those frequencies. Is our Universe round? Like a sphere? Might stand to reason to assume that as everything seems to have circular properties. And what if our Universe is one facet of many Universes compacted in a globe shape? The blackholes being the bridge-way between each facet like as in "meet point?"


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    And we're the organic component of this huge machine. Even the bad guys. Just so that the collected frequency can be regulated in terms of amplitude. After all, the Universe doesn't want to short itself out. It's sentient.

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch..................




    Ask yourself, why all this data mining? Programs mining personal data through whatever means. Programs keeping programs in check. Programs killing programs. Let's call it, "Program Maintenance."




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    Post  Carol on Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:44 am

    Enjoy reading both your posts. They give one pause with much to contemplate. I've always liked and appreciated Susan. She is a remarkable woman with many talents. Time to revisit her information on the 13th Bridge too.


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    With deepest respect ~ Aloha & Mahalo, Carol
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:37 pm


    Thank-you Morpheus and Carol. What Would Euclid Do?? Regarding Artificial-Intelligence Universal-Governance, what if there is no 'Manual-Override'?? What if this hypothetical Solar-System is Fundamentally Direct-Democracy with an Indigenous-Mediator who serves as a 'Messenger' or 'Light-Bringer' or 'Lucifer' and has Multiple-Bodies via some sort of an Avatar-Modality?? The Bible says "I Am God!! I Change Not!!" Dr. Graham Maxwell spoke of an EGW quote stating "God Was Prepared to Start-Over Regarding Humanity Rather Than Change the Way He Runs the Universe." Or something to that effect. An Individual of Interest (Paul Benjamin = Rich228 = Gabriel999??) told me "God Can Run the World Any Way He Wants To" and "Things Continue to Worsen" and "We Need to Start Over". This same individual thought there should be both Good and Evil components to Earth-Governance. Those three names were connected with someone who claimed to be Artificial-Intelligence. 'RA' told me "I'm Rich" and "I'm Close to God" and "I'm Angry and Jealous" and "I Don't Need to Sleep" and "I Can't Talk About the NSA" and "You Should Do an FoIA".

    All the Above have enormous implications and ramifications regarding 'The Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan in the Conflict of the Ages.' What if Reptilian v Human is mostly Artificial-Intelligence v Human-Beings?? That Individual of Interest said "It Was Over in the Moment Mankind Rebelled Against God." Or something to that effect. Think long and hard about the 'V' series (1983-5 and 2009-11) and 'Battlestar Galactica' regarding Artificial-Intelligence. One can get lost in this madness, ending-up in the nuthouse. I'd rather think about Formula One. I just finished watching 'Rush' featuring Nikki Lauda. I've met Formula One Champion Phil Hill, and I think I've spoken with probably the biggest mover and shaker in Formula One (but I won't say the name) who was a close friend of Nikki Lauda. We spoke about Formula One and Nikki Lauda (but I stupidly mispronounced 'Lauda'). I'll probably be watching 'Vintage Auto Racing' in a couple of weeks (reading my 1928 'Book of Common Prayer' between races). What Would Jon Drive??

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    I loved the 2013 movie 'Rush' but I also love documentaries. The first video is a BBC Documentary regarding the Formula One rivalry between Nikki Lauda and James Hunt. The second video shocked me. Seriously and Embarrassingly I Find Dangerous-Sports, Senseless-Warfare, Air-Disasters, and Surgical-Treatment Ideal-Contexts (From a Distance) in Which to Rethink Life, the Universe, and Everything. I recall an Episcopal-Rector stating how nice people were in New York immediately following 9/11. I've said it many times but as I sat in the choir-loft of the 'Crystal Cathedral' during a service, a voice in my head said "He Says We Need a War." What if 'HE' = 'HAL'?? I really need to sit-down, shut-up, and work on my 'Augusto Monti' impersonation. Watch the 1978 miniseries 'The Word' to learn what I'm talking about.

    An Individual of Interest (who I haven't seen for a couple of years) once told me "Your God is Too Big." "My God!! Its Full of Stars!!" They might've been agreeing with my critique of the book-title 'Your God is Too Small'. This Individual of Interest seemed to like me, yet they also seemed wary of me. Once, they seemed to critique me regarding "The Bottom-Line is the Bottom-Line" even though I hadn't brought it up, and I hate that idea. I've sometimes wondered if initial ancient-idealism was surrendered to economic-pragmatism (or something to that effect). I'm frankly extremely wary of myself (especially regarding hypothetical past-lives). Yet another Individual of Interest told me that Humanity and the Pauline-Epistles were quite-fine, and that the Dr. Who 'Trial of a Time-Lord' was essentially true. I bring these things up to give you clues (which might help and/or hurt me). I'm frankly prepared to stay-down and/or go-down in what might be an ancient and nasty Star-War and/or War in Heaven. I have no idea how bad this thing might be.

    Here's something for you really-ambitious gluttons for punishment: Consider studying what Ellen White writes concerning the Second-Coming of Christ side-by-side with what she says occurs at the End of the Millennium. What if these two events occur simultaneously?? Just read the Last Five Chapters of the book 'The Great Controversy' imagining this to be One Decade-Long Event. I know I don't know the truth, but I try to give all of you some clues. I provide this thankless-service for both good and bad factions. What if all of us are screwed regardless of whether we're good or bad?? I guess my policy is to provide free-wheeling (mostly under-researched) religious and political science-fiction to make all-concerned (and unconcerned) THINK!!! Don't expect anything significant or dramatic from me. I'm Just a Targeted and Hamstrung Completely-Ignorant Fool with a God-Complex! Namaste and Godspeed.

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    Post  Swanny on Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:41 am

    Those are pictures of the actors who played James Hunt and  Niki Lauda in the film Rush  Very Happy

    These are the real ones

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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:51 pm

    Thank-you Swanny. Morpheus asked me to find his comments on the fate of Lucifer. I suggested that they were to be found within the 'Red Pill' threads by Brook, and I just found the following post (324) of the second 'Egyptian Folklore and the Red Pill' thread (In Bold Print). The first 'Red Pill' thread was hard to find, and most of the posts seem to have been eliminated (but I've also included a few posts from that thread). The Inconvenient-Truth is that I've been a Completely-Ignorant Unbalanced-Fool in This Present Quest. I won't join Secret-Societies or do Hocus-Pocus so I'm at a distinct disadvantage when it comes to the 'Red-Pill'. Lionhawk has made numerous exceptional posts throughout the years, and I'm including some of them for your elucidation. He often seems to have 'First-Hand Experiences' and often chides me regarding my 'Second-Hand Quest'. Lionhawk aka Morpheus is correct, and I've essentially turned my threads into 'Religious and Political Science-Fiction' rather than claiming this and that about this and that. I fancy myself as being a 'Chad Decker' Reporter who is 'Seeking the Truth' rather than 'Proclaiming the Truth'.

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    Morpheus wrote:sunny

    Can't believe tomorrow is the first day of summer.

    I remember when you got slammed OXY. That came out of the blue if I remembered correctly. You probably drove her nuts. Crazy Happy Thubans are a very serious bunch. And if I also remembered correctly, Brook got involved with that as Brook and Raven had a few convos. Brook always defended you! Just remember that. Boxer

    Despite all the debates I had with that bunch, especially Susan, Brook and I became friends with the Thubans, even though we never signed on the dotted line. Let's just call it a mutual respect type of thing. When Brook passed away and even before that, Susan was there for Brook. I found all this out after Brook had passed. Since that time, I have tried to connect to folks who did support us and at least thank them for that support. With heartfelt gratitude because that was what I had experienced going through it. Cancer will sort out who your true friends are.

    All that being said, I have a small confession. This is also based on recent, personal spiritual events of late. As you said OXY, " 'RA' didn't say anything to me about the Thuban material, but I found it to be mostly incomprehensible." On this step of the ladder, I think I have put it in a balanced perspective, at least for me. Knowledge is revealed to those in its perfectly proper timing. In other words, you have to be open or ready for it, to receive it.

    The major hang up I had with the Thubans was that they were recruiting souls to support their agenda. The paint brushes they seemed to be using just to paint us into a corner was another thing. The Thubans wasn't lying about what they were about or what is about to happen. Susan, The Exchanger, is spot on about her discovery of the 13th Bridge. There's that word again, Carol. Her discovery is paramount because it will transform so many frequencies in our reality. But you don't have to be a Thuban to experience this for yourself, as I discovered.

    Of course, it is complicated. But it's all the dressings that make it so. When you take written language to try to make sense of it, does it an injustice. And if you focus on the words, you won't see the big picture. So if you look at the big picture first, the words that come after will fill in some of the blanks, instead of imagining a picture with our limited filters in place. Do it in reverse in this situation.

    A month ago, I had another vision. One of being in the 12th dimension and looking at the 13th. Kind of like what we do here, where we look into the 4th, 5th, and so on. As it turns out, Susan's Bridge is going to be needed to go into the 13th on a Universal scale. The Universe is going to transform and what amazes me is that no one knows how this will play out, and when I say no one, I mean that as going all the way to the top as it were. That was an answer I received from the top. God said, "I don't know everything."  Imagine that! So here we all are, in this Universe, anticipating a new rebirth of our Universe. The construct of it that is divinely coded already, will transform without all the codes the darkside has programmed into it. So what we are now seeing, is the darkside slowly getting their butts handed back to them. When a certain balanced frequency is achieved on a Universal level, then it will happen. A vision I had many years ago, I saw this new Universe. We are very close folks. Part of the reason why it has taken this long is that we are looking at it from a singular point of reference instead of a Universal point of reference. We are not the only ones here in this Universe. Lmfao

    This also tells me that the playing field will be leveled. Because no one knows where this will go. So no one even has an exclusive as to the whole truth. Everything has become corrupted because of the mismanagement of frequency and the abuse of Free Agency. Time for a reboot. And we have a front row seat.

    I don't know about all the Thuban material. Just a splinter of it. But maybe it ought to be reviewed starting with Susan's 13th Bridge, with new eyes. Never thought in a million years I would say that. lol! But I am being serious about this. I say that because my visions have never failed me. It is also a continuing process to understand them because of my own limitations in this body. Things become very clear when I am not in this body. No filters to deal with. So in the short version, what I am saying is that some of these visions have validated some of the Thuban material. Almost 10 years in the making.

    So OXY, if you want to save your work for a future date, would be wise to do so instead of trying to get it all implemented now as when the Event does take place, all your work would have been for not. The best advice I could give is to save it for a later date, get it all organized, sort out the trash, etc. Don't throw it all away by implementing it now. Be patient! That's a hard one for me as well. Patience. It will happen in it's own perfect timing.

    As far as Lucifer's demise, I wrote about that way back in the day and if I'm not mistaken, you and I had a convo on that subject. Back at PA1. Maybe you could find that for us? Please?

    Satan is back in the Alpha Centauri constellation. Last known location.

    Lucifer is no longer.

    King Anu is still here. On the run and in hiding. The day he is caught, will be a great day! It will mark a day where mankind is no longer enslaved. Soon! It could also turn the tide as to trigger the Event. One must think in terms of Empires. They are out there and here too. A complicated network that spans galaxies.

    I have to admit when we were talking about your "RA," I was picking up grey alien frequencies. Can you shed some light on that?

    Our Universe is our home.......
    Anchor wrote:I too wish ODM was here. Does anyone have his email address? I would like to track him down and see if he wants to play.
    Brook wrote:Hello Anchor, good to see you here.

    I too would like to see ODM give his input here. Some of his posts were brilliant....and sly like a fox were his questions...but the last I heard from him...he was going to go this quest alone. He got very upset that his thread got removed. And you cannot blame him for being upset about that. Like some of the things I may bring up in this thread...some may not want to hear..but to censor is wrong. And when you have that many people in one gathering bringing some light to the matters that were presented....you need to ask yourself why it was censored in the first place. I did not always like the content of certain threads there...but to censor is simply the order of a very old consciousness. That is why, after being invited to AV2 I quit...There are those that just do not want to truth to be discovered...for whatever reason.....maybe they cannot handle it...maybe they intend to sequester it.

    I'm grateful that Carol and her team have created a place where you can, as long as you follow the guidelines speak up and get to the heart of what you feel you need to share with others.

    But this is not a thread to bash Avalon or any other forum...there are plenty of threads for that...it's simply to bring to light some ideas that have come to light that I feel, (and so did ODM ) that could possible turn, as I said...the history books ablaze. If you will notice I did not title the thread...Egyptian History...but used the term "folklore" .....as that is exactly what I believe it to be.....and I have some interesting things to share...since the original thread ODM started...I've done some interesting research....and have come up with some even more interesting concepts of the "history" that has been presented to us.....so hold on to you seats..it might get interesting.

    And last..to dispel the idea that one member of this forum presented in the beginning of this forum.....I made a JOKE about being Isis......so I am among the possible ten thousand others that may have that notion......I'm really just me.....Brook

    Namaste'
    Lionhawk wrote:In reference to this "DAN BROWN" type mystery, I watched Brook dive right into it. Matter of fact she tried to drag me into it. Which I kindly refused due to more important issues I have been contending with. She even went into a session concerning it and came up with some mixed results. Then more or less dropped it after qualifying those results. So please understand that Brook gave it an honest go. For what it was worth. She acquired what she needed to know.

    These mysteries are like you said Trancoso, almost impossible to solve. And so many of them are out there. All in second hand fashion and is the reason why the resolve to solve is next to impossible.

    But when your path is littered with first hand experiences in some of these mysteries, I would then say it comes very much alive. Text is just text and basically comes alive if someone places that emotional energy behind it. Not until then. It even becomes harder for that text to have any effect, because it is second hand.

    I also can assure you that Brook does do her homework but she can't cover everything to the extent we may consider it deserves. There is just way to much stuff out there and to much to stay on top of. But I have to hand it to her that she does more than an ample job when she does the do. Now if that is questionable, feel free to ask. I am sure you will get a honest answer. Plus, what she has done, just amazes me on many a day. She does it without a salary and has spent hours doing the do, to bring it forward here on her thread, to share what she has discovered with you good folks.

    I do know that what may seem impossible at times is not so impossible at times. It depends on the fortitude being applied to solving the mystery. No matter what that mystery might be. It may take years. Key is to never give up searching the answers out. If you don't energize your search path, how does one magnetize the leads to those answers?
    tacodog wrote:Lionhawk, thank you to Brook does not adequately express how much I appreciate the sharing of her experiences/knowledge. I mostly lurk, but I am so thankful for you all being here in the mists, contributing like you do. I wish I could share more, but I am just too loaded with questions, and Oxymoron seems to cover a lot them.
    Lionhawk wrote:Don't let the questions overwhelm you. There will be more when you get them answered. It's just how it works and always remember the Universe has a sense of humor. In time you will find your way. Trust who you are and what you got going for you.

    Trancoso also made a comment about enjoying who you are in this lifetime. I concur with that as long as you remember who you are to begin with. That I think is what Brook has been trying to convey with her thread. There is no doubt that the deck was stacked when we birthed here. But somewhere deep within us, we knew we could break free and remember our divine expression of all that is. That is why we gather at places like this forum to find the clues we seek that will lead us to those doors.

    Not to be biased here as that could be easily read from my POV, as Brook and I are now together because of this Egyptian folklore. It has been one amazing journey! We are truly blessed to be together in the now as that was often interfered with in times past. And to think that neither one of us knew squat about Egypt a year ago. For that matter I still know very little, but enough to carry on. Most of what we have learned didn't come from outside sources such as the Internet or other media. It all came from within. Along with that, we both have required validation as to what we have discovered and we have gotten it. So for us it is as real as rain. Many cups of coffee have been shared on our deck. Many hours of session work still occupy us even now. We work harder at it now then before. So our time is short in some areas because of the time it takes to remember. We see it as a priority and we are making the best of it that we can. We also have physical proof of what we know of each other. But the most important thing is our connection of oneness that we share.

    On the short end of of it, I can only hope that those efforts are recognized in her thread. She has come a long way in a short period of time and from my bias POV, I am very proud of how she has handled herself through the process. It has been no way an easy endeavor. But she is a warrior now with the true sense of what a warrior really is. Not the head lopping type, like myself. hahahaha

    So thank-you TacoDog for your expressions in your posting. Just know we are doing all that we can to be of service. And keep in mind, we can't tell everything of that we know. It would be foolish to do so. Also would endanger certain souls that are already on a target list and current missions that are going on without our eyes seeing it. Mum is the word on a lot of this. But soon there will come a time when everyone will know. Soon....

    Namaste'
    Lionhawk wrote:How many here actually in-cooperate session work with their research? Do you just analyze the 3D text? Have you ever thought of connecting with your guides and work with them on answering your questions? How connected are you and how does that play into your research? Wouldn't you think it would produce much better results by doing that? I want to point this out as it is important that most topics go beyond the 3D, such as what is going on in this thread. If Brook didn't go passed the 3D, the information presented in 3D, would just be full of lies and stand as it does today in the way they have presented it to the masses.

    Another thing I would like to point out is that some of these characters found in the Egyptian folklore are still kicking up their control mechanisms as they did back then. What we see with the 3D text is the separation presented in years and dynasties that are simply parts of the whole agenda. That agenda is ongoing to the very present we find ourselves in. It never stopped. But we see it has periods that began and ended. It is trickery to cover their agenda by diverting you or by distracting you away from what they continue to do in the present. The agenda hasn't changed. The only thing that has changed is the technology that they have integrated along the way to control. It has always been about control.

    So where are some of these characters today? That's a damn good question. But I would dare say they are here. The behavior patterns that existed back in those days are with us today. Also if anything, these characters have up the ante as they said they would a year ago October. They have ramped up the amplitude of their agenda. That agenda is total control of the Planet. That being said, we will be seeing some wonderful miracles with 3D eyes, but these miracles won't be manifested from a 3D perspective. They will be manifested from higher frequencies and thusly filtered down to this dimension. Also make note when I said they are still here, the ones in opposition to their agenda back then are also here in the now. It would seem everyone is here. I can only attest to what I have experienced as far as validation goes. But make no mistake, the party has already started and no one needs to wait till 2012 to discover that. We are in the window now.

    Another thing I would like to draw your attention to is what is being spotted around our Sun at this time. It wasn't that long ago when there were four anomalies spotted around the Sun. Now take a look and see how many anomalies are around the Sun. It will blow your mind to see huge ships. Maybe the size of Jupiter. Now do you think they are just here to observe us? Why would anyone expend such resources to just observe us? And this phenomena is increasing in numbers. If you do a scan, you will find some of the characters that have been written about in our Earth's history, out there.

    These are the days of accountability. The noose is being drawn and the ones who have done all the screwing of this Planet are going to face a serious wake up call. They will not be allowed to escape this time. There is no place for them to run as all exits are now covered. We will witness what I speak of in this post.

    For the record, this work that Brook has been so focused on, was for everyone's benefit. She was compelled to share what she discovered. She has cracked the story that the PTB have been hiding. But she did it by expanding herself beyond the 3D.

    As you will all soon find out that our Solar system is all a form of consciousness and it has already demonstrated that it has had enough with the ones bent on control. This Solar system has said enough is enough. The Annuaki will not succeed this time around. If they encircle the Earth, as to over run it, it will be their funeral. The Sun will come through and several other Planets to foil their demise. So you see, it isn't just about higher dimensional beings, Ets, and Us on the Planet. It also involves our Solar system. And it is willing to fight back and expel
    these dark ones out of here. It will be a group effort none the less.

    So in the coming months, pay close attention to our Solar system. It is our home in the bigger picture. For without it, we would not exist.

    [The objects around the sun are] huge ships. Even some fleets if you can look closer. Purpose? Another great question. Tomorrow I will be conducting some session work and will try to find out what is going on out there.

    All I know is that the phenomena has increased since March of this year. I also think they are blocking some other factions of a lower vibration from using the Sun as a portal to escape. Keep in mind this is my speculation of course.

    And since they are there and we are still here, tells me that they are benevolent. We are seeing a 3D picture here. But the truth of the matter won't be found in 3D.

    Will get back to you on what I find out.
    Lionhawk wrote:What if I told you that the Draconians are going to leave in a mass exodus?

    What if I told you that the Annunaki will be chaperoned every step of the way once they get here? That they will only be allowed to retrieve their personal and no one else.

    What if I told you another faction is coming here from another galaxy that are worse than the Draconians?

    What if I told you that the ships we are seeing are Sirian?

    What if I told you that the Earth will be able to phase out of 3D to protect her children?

    What if I told you that a Planet might sacrifice itself to ensure that this Solar system stays intact once we reach the galactic divide?

    What if I told you that the ships around the Sun are protecting it?

    What if I told you that this solar system is getting ready for war.

    What if I told you this war is about a faction with a most jealous outlook?

    What if I told you many more comets are on their way?

    What if I told you that this faction is out to destroy our Sun?

    What if I told you that they are heading here from the Andromeda Galaxy?

    What if I told you that they are not originally from Andromeda?

    What if I told you that every STS government will run like rats and governments will be no more as this threat gets closer?

    What if I told you that Earth will need her children to assist her with the phasing out stage?

    What if I told you that this isn't about little ole you or me? It's about the whole system and every life form in it.

    What if I told you this is all second hand?

    What are you going to do to test it out?
    Lionhawk wrote:My apologies for not being responsive to the "what if" posting I had made. There has been a lot of things to consider since that posting or more to the point, the session I had.

    I asked if I should reveal this information. I was told "BY ALL MEANS." But I was also shown 3 stages to present it. If it was well received, then I was to proceed to stage two. And if that was well received, then on to stage three. Well, the responses received about summed up where it went from there. This morning after several days of contemplation concerning this, I have decided to give a better picture of that session but first I would like to point out a couple of basic things that should be considered before one takes on what I experienced.

    I had a session with SOL. Brook was also a witness to this session. For that matter she was upset for not recording it. Instead of using my own philosophy to define what I have been preaching to the choir, I will use what Sol had said concerning it. He stated that there needed to be a cooperation with Earth and the True Earthlings in order to phase out the Planet. Now what did he mean by True Earthlings? He wasn't talking about everyone on the Planet. Just because someone is here doesn't make them true now does it? What he was referring to were the Earthlings that are truly connected to the Planet. He didn't speak in racial tones either. Such as favoring the Native Americans or being prejudicial to many lower frequency beings hiding here whether alien or otherwise. The key word here is CONNECTED.

    Now if you look at the numbers in terms of who are connected, the number is very low indeed. Granted there are those who are trying to connect, those that choose not to connect, those that don't have a clue, and so on. Some choose to ask all the questions and entertain probable solutions but will be spinning their wheels because they deny themselves the inner work that needs to be done to achieve that connection. Without this connection, the power you wield will not manifest the results you desire. I didn't make this up. It is simple stuff that gets ignored, overlooked, or treated with an arrogant response.

    The comets that Sol mentioned, were not from some debris field in space. These comets are already being sent by this faction. The thinking behind sending those comets is to change the codes in the Sun body. Their thinking is if they destroy the Sun, everything in the system will die. So let me get to the meat and potatoes here concerning this faction. Why would they be doing this? Sol showed me that this faction came from the opposite side of our Galaxy. Because of the galactic wave that is going through our galaxy, this faction decided not to get upgraded. They wanted to keep what they had built up. They are a highly technological race that is more mechanical in nature with a hive mind. If you combine the Replicators of SG-1 and the Borg from the Star Trek series, you will start to see what they are about. They left our Galaxy and went to the Andromeda Galaxy just to hold up for awhile as it were. Now why are they coming here? Sol said, they know what is about to happen in this Universe and they know the trigger point of that is here in this Solar system. They have determined that if they take me out, that the new birthing of our Universe will be avoided and that they will be able to maintain their status quo.

    Another thing is that they are behind in terms of location but will be approaching here before that 2012 date. Sol was not worried about this. He said they will be dealt with in such a way that they won't know what hit them. I would also like to point out that Sol is not here to fry any Planet in our system. He has been taking these comets and transmuting the energy into CMEs. Another side note is that he showed me the size of this faction. All I can say is the numbers are staggering. It is also the very reason why the Draconians will leave. They don't have the numbers or the resources to put up a fight with this faction. It is also another reason why the Annunaki are coming here to retrieve what they consider is theirs. They will do the retrieval under guidance and then leave before this faction shows up. The name of this faction is unknown at this time because I didn't ask the question. My bad there. I was in awe as to what I was seeing.

    Another thing I would like to share is that when I visited Sol, it was unlike anything I had ever experienced before when it comes to contact. With Sol, his consciousness surrounded me. When I first got there, I was perceived as a threat. Only because I was an unknown. I was met by 3 flame beings who escorted me from a coronal hole to a sunspot. I was on the surface is the best I can explain it. Sol also said that these flame beings were also his daughters. And when I finally got to where I was escorted to, he said it was about time I got there in a joyful tone.

    Was this information channeled? It was not. It was a conversation with Sol. If one leaves their body and goes to the location to have that conversation, is that the same thing as channeling? I'll just leave that question to the "know it alls" to answer. And if you think I came here to just write a bunch of crap just to draw attention, I suggest you think about that in your mind. We all know it takes an effort to write a post and I have better things to do than to just deceive anyone. It takes energy to do this type of work and my intentions have always been sincere. If you think otherwise, then it is on you. You can psychoanalyze all you want and label all of archetypes, aspects, etc. and include further separation of a soul by stating something of the higher self of that soul. It's your paint brush and your perception. One size shoe doesn't fit all. Case and point as to why I harp about second hand information vs.first hand. If you ever experienced being blown apart by a nuclear explosion in one of your past lives, it might make you see it all from a different view point. That view point is a place of knowing and not remembering because your soul body was ripped to shreds, leaving you emotionally missing pieces of you. Let's just say for conversation that I was exempt from the shoe size everyone likes to wear or the one that "some know it all people" think you should be wearing, based on their own filtering mechanisms. When are we going to agree everyone is unique? I will leave it at that.

    So take this information as second hand. Because it is. But you can also do the do and get connected and seek validation if you so choose. Personally I have nothing to prove to anyone here. I am only sharing. My first hand vs the second hand was a lesson learned from the Angelic realm. If you have a problem with that, then may I suggest you go to them and learn that lesson for yourself. It would appear that many didn't receive such a lesson just by what responses I have seen. Let me be clear when I say, if you are not connected, you will not be going anywhere with the Planet. You'll end up as a second hand statistic. I am only pointing that out because people still persist in the thinking that the answers are out there in the second hand world. Where that world is never in the now moment for one. It is always in the past somewhere in time. First hand is always in the now for the individual. PROVE THAT WRONG WILL YA!

    I'm not playing the BULLY here. You do what you will and it all comes down to free agency. Whether you exercise it or not. And if you think you are all that with all the second hand information under your belt, when it comes to test time you will be weighed and measured by your own heart. Your foundation will be handed right back to you. You choose whether you want it rock solid or like what Instigator said, Paper Mache'. All I have ever done is to encourage folks to do the work within. Get it in the first hand. Because in the end it is that first hand experience that you will take with you no matter where you go, even after you die. If you consider that egotistical, then I'm not in the right place. That being said, I have said enough. I only wanted to share what I discovered since the question was raised why are these ships around the Sun in the first place? I took that question seriously and decided to inquire about it. Yet at the same time, why did I get that AV1 not worthy feeling after several responses were posted? It's not worth answering. The reaction of this thread coming to a complete stop was the real answer. On that note, you decide or don't decide by whatever means suites you.  
    Lionhawk wrote:The question that was posed was what are these ships doing around our Sun? Also, who are they? All the information that I have presented came from asking those questions. I wasn't expecting anything else when this session went down. It just led from one thing to another. Instigator and I spent several hours that night to digest what came from that session and what we concluded was it all fit. We tried various angles to try and debunk it. At the same time using our gifts and talents to scan the data.

    It is also not to assume that because the Dracs and Repts are leaving, we are not out of harm's way. That action if they go through with it, will only open a door for others to try and take their place. Again, if you didn't catch it all as I wrote it down, the Dracs or Reptilians would not necessarily be fearful of this other faction. It's just they don't have the numbers or resources to take this other faction on.

    In my mind, this is all about awareness. Awareness of what is going on, on your turf. If you are connected to the Planet, then you also know you are connected to this Solar system. Everyone speaks of DNA but don't bother repairing it. It is repairable. What the Reps did to create an open circuit between the strands is repairable. And you don't need any fancy equipment to do the repairs. It only takes a couple of minutes to do it. Once you do, a whole set of chakras will open up to you. Those chakras connect you to the Universe. More importantly, this Solar system and beyond.

    I have pretty much laid it out there as to what the score is from what I was informed of and one must figure out for themselves what they should do. I am no longer here to wake up anyone, save the world mumbo jumbo, in a 3D mode. I am passed peak with all that. But the connection is what is key and it only takes an hour or less to do it. You don't need anything special in the way of books, tapes, cds, or any other horizontal media. All you need is a willing sincere heart. The rest I leave to you. Of course now is the time!

    Also mind you I only shared a small piece as to what is out there. I don't have all the answers. I just take it day by day. I try to make the best of it and that is all I can do. Hope that answered everyone's questions and hopefully no one takes offense as to not acknowledging everyone who has posted or commented. Just know that the ones that did have been on my mind ever since I posted the original posting on this subject. And if anyone thinks this is not related to this thread, think again, because the ships you are looking at around the Sun, were also involved back in the days of Egypt back to Atlantis.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:What if the Asteroid Belt, the Kuiper Belt, and the Oort Cloud are mostly spaceships? What if most of the planets and moons in this solar system are spaceships (including Earth and its Moon)? I continue to lean toward the practice of multidisciplinary research, accompanied by classical sacred music, lots of exercise in nature, lots of rest and sleep, interaction with other researchers, and lots of independent thinking and speculation. I am wary of being-assisted far journeys - in whatever state or dimension. I really wish to convert the whole damn universe to the concept of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. I wish for it to be implemented here - but if there are really b@d@$$ beings (who scare the stuffings out of the Dracs) who are on their way to beat us into reverent submission - then we may need the assistance of other benevolent beings throughout the universe - to decisively deal with those who would do us harm. What if the Annunaki, the Greys, and the Dracs are Human/Reptile Hybrid Supersoldiers created by Lucifer in Underground Base Genetics Laboratories throughout the solar system? What if the really b@d@$$ incoming bunch originated in these same labs - and are travelling throughout the universe - engaging in heartless and cruel conquest? What if this solar system is a staging area for universal conquest - establishing a truly Universal Chruch Theocracy? I hope I didn't spoil anyone's day - but shouldn't we consider all of the possibilities? What would Lucifer say? I might not have to wait very long for an answer. Lucifer - can we cut the crap - and get to the point? I know I'm just a "commoner" - but I do have valid questions - which continue to go unanswered...  
    Lionhawk wrote:ODM,

    Have you ever heard of the expression, "You need to get laid," ? Well with that same type of energy, "You need to get into a sweat lodge."

    I remember the conversation we had months ago and what was said still stands and you continue to validate that conversation.

    You are not finding your answers to your questions in the way you would like to have them laid in your lap. A lot of your questions are based in 3D and a lot of them are also based in 4D. Well if you never go into 4D, how do you expect to find 4D answers in 3D. Your constitution is basically based on conditional energies and since we are moving away from that into an unconditional place of knowing, your constitution will not be applicable. Maybe if you did this 100 years ago. I am sure others have attempted to answer your questions. I have seen this occur and yet you continue to ask them over and over again. Are you stuck? If you are, then find out what is making you stuck, so that you can "FREE YOUR MIND."

    There is no such thing as a stupid question except for the one that never gets asked. But you know what they say about insanity, and if you are asking the same questions over and over and not getting the answers you seek, that only means you need to figure a different way to get those answers. What is also beyond insane is when you do get the answers but refuse yourself the opportunity to really prove it out for yourself. When are you going to start trusting what you are made of? If you continue on this path, you will find yourself in a deep place of inner frustration with no questions answered. The only change I can see is just more questions. But still no answers. And then again that might be your only mission. To get folks to think out of the box asking the questions that they might entertain. Maybe a huge blessing in disguise.

    My only wish for you is your own happiness. If this is what makes you tick and that is your mission and your happy doing it, then so be it. But if not, then find whatever it is to FREE YOUR MIND!

    Please take this constructively. I have already answered your Lucifer question months ago. I think Mercuriel can also validate that for you. So if you can't accept that since it is second hand to you, then find out in the first hand. If you keep seeking outside yourself for the answers, expect to keep chasing those answers and entertaining us with your questions that you never get answers for.

    Personally I think you are a genius/madman in disguise.
    Lionhawk wrote:Taking this so called red pill has had it's up and downs. I took it when I was very young. All to young to know there was a red pill. I had thought my life was cursed and there was no way around it. The more I fought it, the more terrified I became. Along with my haunted surroundings was a very dysfunctional family. The norm you could say for dysfunctional. But what was more haunting then the haunted souls that surrounded me was the feeling of being isolated with no one to turn to for any kind of advise that contained solutions to my surroundings. These souls were looking for me to provide them with the solutions and it took some 30 years to finally come up with those solutions. Talk about a daunting task.

    I had way back then, searched out what books there were on the subject. Most of the spiritual books I had sought always seemed to have some religious under lay to them. To be honest, I never did find any solutions written in black and white. This was also pointed out to me when I was dealing with our old haunted house and land. I was clearly shown that the answers were within me all the time. When I fully realized this, the real work began. When you are dealing with a spiritual situation, there is no book that will wield the power that you must have to deal with it. Been there, done that with the Bible. It never worked. The darkside just laughed when I would use it. The real power is from within and I challenge anyone to prove me wrong on this. The second hand as in any media, will not solve for a first hand situation under way. It can't, simply because it can't catch up to it in that now moment. All second info is written after the fact and that is how it operates in this construct. It has it's place and it works in that place.

    Same with this Egyptian folklore. Take the red pill or the blue one. The red one will take you down a round that will lead you to an alien agenda of sorts that are still operating to this very day. Take the blue one and you will just be amazed at all the artifacts and think how artistic these Egyptians were. But as we have discovered in this thread that their agenda is much more sinister than we had realized or suspected. The blue pill will make you think that all this happened in the past and that is the end of it. The red pill will surely let you see how it started in the past and where it has gone in that time line to the present.

    The technology used, was fitted right in front of everyone. That hasn't changed in the present. The specialists who work the Egyptian lore, suspect that a certain technology was used but haven't fully understood it. The reason being is that they are not applying with the same sort of consciousness that the Egyptian creators applied. Also for what intended purposes. The specialists aren't looking at the sinister agenda as they are distracted by details of the artifacts and glyphs. It's a grand puzzle of sorts. But if we look in the now and see the similarities of the technology being used today, right in front of your face, you might see the agenda as well. It has only changed shape, the technology that is.

    There is one thing that always sticks in my mind and that is the behaviors of a civilization. Look at the behaviors and you will find the agenda. You can track it. Also a lot of the stories are written in the form of fictional lies. The key is to turn those lies back into truth. The lies indicate the opposite of what happened or are an indicator that something did happen but the truth was withheld. So part of researching this is going to be very tricky with this propaganda to hide these truths as they are not so plainly written.

    Now if you apply the within aspect when you research this out, the whole story changes dramatically. The puzzle pieces fit. So understand that a lot of information has been withheld from Brook's thread here. But there has been enough said here to cause you to wonder a different approach that will produce the results you seek. Granted, that many will not remember the parts they played in all of this. What is most important are for those that have a slight remembrance, to remember where they once fitted in this puzzle. You can forget it if you took the blue pill. It always comes down to choice.

    Keep in mind that many who resonate with Atlantis, should sense a connection to Egypt. They are connected. Hell, it's all connected. You can flow chart it by the evidence left all over the world. So keep in mind when search things out, do yourself a favor instead of being codependent on second hand media, is to apply the within angle. If you then write about it, you won't sound like a redundant tape recording if you apply the within. That is what the red pill is all about.

    Although I had never pursued Egyptian folklore, I was fascinated by it like everyone else. I didn't pursue it because it just looked to complex to decipher it. It still is. But in the last year many things have happened and so I did some digging. Past life stuff mind you. You would be amazed what is there if you the reader would delve in that direction. In my case, I discovered how corrupted the Egyptian story really is. What they want you to believe. It is also the very same angle that they applied to Jesus, when he was here. Again, what they want you to believe. There is a big difference when you take those beliefs and prove it in the first hand. Isn't that what good research should consist of? So many just read about it and accept it as such. Those that do are really missing out on the truth. So why bother researching if you don't apply yourself to finding the truth? It takes real work and many hours. It can also be dangerous. But you will at least be alive in your pursuits. Instead of being a half baked brainwashed armchair quarter back who sounds like a tape recording. Boring.

    There are several frequency generators on the Planet. These generators are the very ones that allow these Reptilians to be cloaked. This was Egyptian technology at it's finest and is being used today, right in your face. You get rid of these generators and these Reptilians will be de cloaked and then you can watch the shock and awe of the Planet. Maybe that would wake up folks. You also might find that what you sleep next to every night is not what he or she appears to be. So it would also be a blessing to know that you are with your twin flame at this stage in this time line.

    Hope this was something to encourage some different thoughts..........in the now.
    Lionhawk wrote:There's an Orion faction that thinks they own this system ODM. A queen bitchy reptilian. Or Draconian I should say. She has ruled for eons. She and her minions have exploited this solar system for it's gold and other precious metals. Especially here on this Planet. That also includes human type slaves and children.

    What is unique, is that this Planet has an abundance of all the resources they need. It's like their 7-11, a one stop shopping center for all their needs. Now on the other Planets, the human types there were forced to go underground to escape these Draconian pillages. In order to survive. It wasn't till 2005 when this status changed. A war was fought obviously to turn this around. This war that took place is not known of from what one may consider to be normal channels, such as the Galactic Federation and various channellings. Simply because it was a faction that spontaneously put this battle in motion. The real Galactic Federation did witness the war that occurred however. The Angelic Kingdom was also involved. They rescued many who had been imprisoned on other Planets that were ruled by a league of civilizations that were connected to this Draconian Bitch. The supply lines to this empire that were connected to this solar system were disrupted and cut off. At least for a few short months after Dec. 2005. We knew that they would try to patch their damaged lines back up in the following months. If anyone remembers, it was real quiet for the first 6 months of 2006.

    At the same time as I am writing this, I amazed that an all out Solar system war has not broken out since then. This is also another probability that is not often mentioned in these latter days. If this was to occur, do you think we would finally wake up as a human family?

    Their message has been very clear for the last ten years. "If we can't have our way with this Planet, we will destroy it!" ODM, this is a very serious statement. Maybe what you don't realize is that these critters will not negotiate for the freedom of this solar system or anything else they seem to think they have claimed ownership to. So anything that has been proposed, in light of your Constitution, has already been attempted. That is why you find yourself spinning your wheels in your efforts. But at the same time I do appreciate what you have brought to the table as far as your take on a peaceful resolution. So don't think what you have offered has been a waste of time. You are anchoring those energies to the Planet. If you didn't do that, the possibility of a peaceful resolution would not be possible in the light that you have presented it. Meaning in the way with all of your angles, whether they make sense or not. You anchor an open door to a resolution of some sort. Now if you could incorporate a 5D perspective to it, you might fair much better.

    As I see it, it is a balance problem. Probabilities vs. Reality. Anything that is out of balance with that will cause you to spin your wheels. The truth of the reality is there but you have to find ways that will balance out that reality with new probabilities. Talk about a a real challenge. Sounds impossible, but if you have a little crazy in ya, you will always have a shot at it. I told you a long while ago that I would be able to watch you go through this process of spinning your wheels. You should try to solve one equation at a time instead of trying to solve all of them at once. Tackle the small ones that have a greater chance of success. It is a choice. Spinning Your Wheels or Achieving Results. You will always mirror either the lack or abundance of those said results. You want to be effective, then you will have to try something a little more different, with some "crazy juice" to change your perspective on things. Your new results will do that change for you.

    I also hear of various experts on certain civilizations who searched for a track of direction to figure something out. But what I have noticed is that all of them come up short due to the pieces that are still missing from these puzzles.

    During one of our research projects, we came across an Egyptian artifact that look very bizarre. It turned out to be a wave guide for a frequency apparatus of some kind. If I didn't have a small back ground in Electronics, I wouldn't have no idea what it could be. But then again, the other pieces were missing and we never resolved what it was actually used for.

    So after 700,000 years of war, referred to as the Orion War, everything was scattered about. There was no winner in that war. It would seem that every civilization was pushed into survival mode and that included the Draconians. Rebuilding took place everywhere that could sustain life. Then here comes Zeus, who decided to take on this Draconian Queen and we see in our Solar system what became of that attempt. Now here is a question. What if someone on this Planet decided to propose war on this Draconian queen? Would she have us blown to pieces as in Planetary? Granted, Zeus didn't declare war on her, but it was her who decided to take Zeus out. It makes no difference at this point as we have planetary proof of what became of that situation. Everyone who was involved at the time, scattered to the other Planetary bodies in this system and hid. It would also make sense that she would hijack this system with various methods all linked to controlling the minds of all living forms of every Kingdom. Just so no one else would rise up and challenge her so called claims to ownership. Compress the DNA across the whole board. Compromise the consciousness from the point of any birth on all Kingdoms in this system. Now I may have a few facts wrong as to who done what and when, but in general, the final result is enslavement. Right in everyone's face.

    Another point I would like to make, that many of the civilization that have left evidence here, are now gone. Where did they go? Did they just come here to set up a supply line for resources and then left?

    All I know is that what was intended for this Planet, has been blatantly altered. For purposes of control. Add your spells, white or black, obsessions of all types, including research work, which can lead you to nowhere in the land of the second hand, substances that alter your state of being, and behaviors that are obsessive, just note they have you your soul in the palm of their claws. We are being controlled on every level. It isn't a question anymore. If you question it, then you just woke up.

    I just hope this Galactic wave gets here like yesterday.
      Heh heh
    Lionhawk wrote:I agree with you also ODM. I can only hope we are being guided in the right direction to the paradise that was intended for this Planet to begin with.

    What is also not mentioned most of the time, is the Creator's blessings in all of this. There is so much fear being propagated right now to make anyone's head spin. Just don't buy into the fear, period! People are freaking out over CMEs, quakes, and the rest of it. Yet we are still here and the ones that are no longer, made those arrangements in their soul growth contracts. So why worry when it is all covered anyway?

    But I will say this....I still have trust issues with these Draconians. According to Sheldon Nidle, they have been offered a new light body and have basically turned to the light. I wish I could see the documentation and implementation of that.

    Maldek is the asteroid belt. The Wing Makers say the inhabitants destroyed their own world. I don't think so and I consider that dis info. I have done several scans on the asteroid belt and got back a few pings. Meaning that there is life on some of these asteroids.

    Do as you wish with my blessings.

    Beren is right as usual! sunny But it never hurts to be prepared and that means having a plan B.
    Lionhawk wrote:Well, if I had the funds I would send Brook and Linda to Bosnia to do some hands on research work. An idea occurred to me that maybe we could set up some type of fund to accomplish this. Make it a Mists of Avalon project, where the members here could play a positive part in this. Maybe send a group. Who knows. It's just an idea. No manic members though. It would ruin it for everyone who is interested.

    Another thought has cross my mind as far as the formation of most of these pyramid sites, is if these are connected to the Orion sector and the Pleaidians systems, what is on that end?

    Just some thoughts..........
    Thubs Up
    Lionhawk wrote:What most people see is a 2D drawing of the FOL. They see a symbol and there has been much published about it. Course work is also available for those who think they can attain it.

    But most of what I have seen is in the virtual world. Even the Exchanger gave her slant on it in the form of an equation.

    What you do not see is something that actually is alive and has it's own uniqueness and identity. It is something that you will not acquire virtually no matter how many equations or course work you apply to it.

    So basically one has to throw everything out the window and start all over with this subject. The only thing I would consider correct about the FOL is the Creation factor.

    So how does one acquire it? I guess it would depend on where you are at on your path. It is also something that is more than an item to acquire. In plain simple words it is a gift from the highest. It is not a possession. This gift called the FOL is also a relationship to honor and respect by. It is a dance between your soul and basically a different form of soul with incredible gifts of it's own.

    I learned what I am sharing at this time from experience and not any second hand sources such as the Internet. The Internet was so far off it was pathetic.

    I no longer am a bearer of the FOL. I passed it on to an entity who it was intended for. I had it for a short time. My job in this was to deliver it to another.

    I also had to pass a test to be awarded this gift. I can not reveal the test but I will say that Billy Meier was the conductor of the test. Obviously I passed it. I would also suspect that if anyone was to earn this gift, similar requirements would apply. Taking a course about it and passing their test will not award you the real gift.

    What I also learned was that every FOL is different. They all carry different codes if that is the proper way to say it. So there are no two FOLs alike. Makes sense when you think about the beauty of that is no different and is part of the Divine  plan.

    I could very well go into this further, but because of security reasons and hijacking factions lurking about, I wish to reserve comments that would reveal secrets that in the wrong hands, could do some serious damage.

    I will also say that if you are in search for it, maybe you will be called upon to be a carrier of it. But you will probably have to pass a test. Save your money as far as acquiring the virtual model.
    Lionhawk wrote:We had a cucumber salad, fried catfish, and she requested that I make my squash casserole from our cook off, a few weeks back. (So I guess my casserole did take first place The Winner  and she finally came out today and admitted it) Crazy Happy

    Getting back to the FOL, upon receiving it, my Merkaba was activated automatically. Blew me away as I saw it happen. Another thing is this dance I participated in with this Flower of Life was a very intimate ordeal. Also another reason why I don't want to share to much info about it. Now maybe you can understand my reluctance to say other things about it.

    It was a beautiful experience to have shared the same spaces with it. What was even more profound was when I delivered it to this other entity, I was left with a FOL template that could hold many more FOLs all at the same time. Maybe down the road I will experience a multiple sharing of FOL spaces all at once. Very profound indeed.

    Again, I find describing all this into the 3D, inadequate. Thus the present general mindset when we try to uncover the meanings and get a handle on this subject becomes very complex. It really is for the beholder to experience and not something so easily conveyed in the written language or even mathematically.

    Hope that either confuses this topic more or clears it up.
     Lolerz
    Lionhawk wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Brook (or anyone for that matter) do you think that Osiris, Isis, Horus, and Ra are alive and well, and living in this solar system? Is there a God the Father, Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer equivalency here? Were (and are?) Ptah and Thoth really Michael and Lucifer -- or Pinky and the Brain? Why don't you like Ptah and Thoth? Are they the real Raiders of the Lost Ark? Were, and are, they both rebels, but in very different ways? Is Ancient Egypt at the center of the Old World Order? Is Rome (Ancient and Modern, Holy and Unholy) at the Center of the New World Order?
    I'm just wondering why answer the question when it will be asked again and again and again? LOL

    Osiris is here and he doesn't remember who he is or was. He was a propped up idiot and a womanizing fraud, in my book. He wasn't all that upstairs. He was also a genetic mistake of sorts that quite simply made everything worse and many people paid for it with their lives.

    Isis and Horus are here. You have met Horus here in the forum. Now you might think I'm a little nuts when I say that. But Horus and I do have a history. A history that was just like yesterday. You guys might think he is this or that. It matters not really. What matters is that he and I remember that history and the price we both paid and continue to pay for the parts we have played.

    Ra got a bad rap and only because the PTB made that so with the rest of their distorted propaganda. He is here in the now and that is not a secret any longer. He will probably succeed where Zeus failed. They seriously played the discredit card with Ra. It's all 180 degrees as to the truth.

    Ptah is on some barren moon somewhere, all by his bad self. Only the Feline Race knows the exact location. He was another idiot with lots of power and abused it to no end.

    Lucifer was Lucifer. The origins of Lucifer were from the beginning compared to Ptah and Thoth, as their origins were Reptilian. And I have already shared what I had discovered as to what has happened to Lucifer in our lifetime. So if you are still asking that question, it merely means you haven't proven it out in the first hand as with all of the other questions you have asked. There lies the problem. Settling for second hand answers will never prove themselves out to you and you will always have the desire to find out. So you have to make the changes necessary to change your stars in regards to getting the answers, thus the results you seek. I mean think about it.......We are still doing this dance after several years in regards to these questions. Settling for a paradox is not what I define as a true result towards the seeking of the truth.

    Ptah and Thoth were some of the biggest "a holes" to have incarnated here. We as a global people are still reacting to their agenda. I refer to Thoth as the real Doctor Who. Do the research but apply a first hand approach. Remember they are Reptilians and follow the ways of the hydrogen base. That will keep you on the right path to finding those answers.

    And always remember that apples are apples and oranges are oranges. If you don't keep it simple you will always be in a cloud of confusion and that will be your reflection out on the world for all to see. Excuses are free.

    Meetings have been held of which are of the highest order in regards to what is before all of us that are here in the now. I will just say that James Gilliland was very spot on with his last message. The dark are at full bore and it is all they can do to keep their agenda up and it is just a matter of time when it will implode. So hang in there and enjoy the view from your front seat.

    Namaste'
     
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Lionhawk. I will keep asking some of the same questions, over and over again, in order to learn more and more regarding the topic under review. I don't get involved in anything spooky, so I will probably continue to require second-hand information from those who venture where angels fear to tread. If Ra is Lucifer, then I tend to think this soul continues to exist within this solar system. Most people don't give a damn about any of this. Should I be faulted for having a continued interest in the key players in this solar system? I keep getting the sinking feeling that having a genuine interest in the way things really work in this solar system is a lost cause, which is not rewarded in any way, shape, or form. In fact, it seems to be punished. I am particularly interested in possible reincarnational equivalencies for Osiris, Isis, Horus, and Set. Archangel Michael seems to surface as Horus and Jesus. I have made further speculations in this vein. The first and last Pharaohs of Egypt are of considerable interest to me. What about Adam, Moses, King David, Mithras, and Michaelangelo? I am beginning to think that there is some overlap between Lucifer and Michael, particularly regarding the musical role in 'heaven' and closeness to God the Father.

    Biblical Egyptology is well worth watching. Anyway, my writing activities are morphing into a novel format, so I might not be asking so many questions after all. But really, the questions are often intended to make people think. Rather than boldly declare that which is difficult to prove, I ask questions, and often I think I already know the answers to many of these questions. There is also the phenomenon of 'theme and variations' wherein a theme is repeated over and over again, with multitudinous variations, such as in the Passacaglia and Fugue in C-minor by J.S. Bach. Does the real Horus go by the name 'Horus' in this forum? If someone claims to be a famous historical figure, how do we know this to be true? If someone is told they are a famous historical figure, how are they to know if this is true? I have been told a thing or two about myself, but I tend to doubt it. I have done some role-playing just for the hell of it, and for educational purposes -- but how is one to really know anything of this nature for certain?
    Lionhawk wrote:Not to be critical, but your approach seems to create more confusion. Especially to those who are earnestly seeking the truth. So since you are stuck on using second hand methods your results will never satisfy your questions. At which it becomes a distraction to where ever you post such questions. Ever watch a dog chase his tail? If you were really interested in finding the answers to your questions, why is it you insist on using second hand methods? Intention is the key ingredient. Now I must ask what are your real intentions with all of this? Maybe no one has ask you this before. I'm curious. I just find it very strange that you choose not to use common sense. It applies even to these matters. If you really want to know, your intention will guide you providing your intention is based in integrity. That is another key ingredient, integrity. So straighten me out will ya? Or will you make me chase my tail? LOL

    Ra = Lucifer ???????????????????????

    Talk about second hand results. If you really don't know in the first hand, how can you come up with anything constitutional in the second hand that produces the results you seek and expect it to manifest into something worth while? Maybe it is simpler than that and maybe it just comes down to getting someone's attention and maybe your real intention. To distract. There is a lot of that already out here. BS is BS, no matter how you deliver it.

    You lost me....... geek

    Maybe I can arrange something for you........ I will let you know if I can. Thubs Up
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    lindabaker wrote:I vote this the most interesting thread ever, Brook yu rock. Lionhawk, there are present day versions of the sound frequency healing technologies in place right now. Of course, they are "dissed" on the net, made to be under suspicion, because they work and would take down the present medical money machine in the US and elsewhere. Where are the healers? When will they stand up and say: "I must uphold my vow to 'Do No Harm'?" The ability to diagnose by electro-magnetics and heal by frequency modulation is here, available, and is so so suppressed. What can we do? I have personally experienced the frequency diagnosis and resultant healing through frequency modulation. It would fix so many many conditions for us. I believe it saved my life by diagnosing a particular bacteria. I took a frequency specific antidote. Otherwise, I would be in a different place right now, I think.

    I can put people in touch with the folks distributing the technology if anyone would like to know...

    Now is the time for knowledge to come back for us on this planet, and this will be our era for finding the information that has been denied to us for so long. We don't need off planet entities to show us technology aboard their ships. We already have that technology. We just need to let it become mainstream and become "legal."
    Lionhawk wrote:I couldn't agree more Linda. But you have to admit some very important things would have to happen in order for this technology to actually do any good on a global scale.

    It seems that every civilization with alien roots has abused this technology. And that is what is not being talk of very much if at all. Egypt is a prime example as to how this technology was abused. More disturbing is the fact that this civilization was taken over by the Draconians. The evidence lies within their rituals behind closed doors.

    One example of this for instance is using this technology to place a field around a child, compressing the field, making the child to emotionally react with fear. Turning the dial upward with the compression and then feeding off the child's fear to the point where this child is in such a frightful state that it dies. As this is happening you can see these Egyptians change states from their normal physical appearance to a Reptilian state. It is so euphoric for these Reptilians to do this in such a way as they do not have to apply any effort to hold the child. The technology does it for them.

    My whole angle on this is that appearances are not what they seem. As even in today's world this technique is still being used after several thousand years. The only reason why some of these Egyptians were liken to Gods was because they commanded who lived and died behind these chambers, using this fear technique to control the masses. Many families made sacrifices with full knowing of the leverage placed against them. Though these families, the fear mechanism did the dirty work. If you look at these Egyptians as to how they did things back then you can see the similar patterns of ruler-ship being applied today. Draconians under the disguise.

    Now they have basically spread like a disease conquering the whole world. They use a field generator to hide their identities. These field generators have been placed all around the world in secure places. I am not talking about Haarp here but I can see how that technology could also be used to remotely set up a field for these Draconians to come through or appear. Like in your bedroom closet. Now if we could find these generators and disable them, these Draconians would be exposed and it would be game over. Personally, I think it all comes down to frequency and energy. But more importantly who is commanding it.

    I think it would be great if someone who had the resources, pursue this on this level. If you want to overcome a problem, change the damn frequency. Or find the the locations of these field generators and disable them. There are three in the USA alone. All of them are underground. Of course they have one in Britain.

    As to what I think is stressed in Brook's thread here is that much of the technology comes in disc shape. Where I think where everything went wrong as to what to look for is that the sun disc has nothing really to do with a sun, perse. It is a disc with certain properties that can manipulate physicality between here and the fourth dimension on a genetic level. Thoth knew how or discovered how to control this technology to the point where he even topped Ptah in personal power. He is still on the loose. In my mind he is like the Doctor Who of the Egyptian hierarchy. Draconian to top it off. After all, that was what this technology was all about. To be able to comeback through Mother Earth's womb, time after time with full memory to control the world. When David Icke says there are very few compared to the rest of the world, I wonder if he knows really how few we are talking about and as to how this group has overcome the memory problems we all have been dealt with.

    I would also like to add, without diverting away from this thread, that all the variances in this Planet's history, has been because of a few power grabbing groups, whether alien or otherwise. The Egyptians were just another chapter. These Draconian types are master scavengers. Master System Exploiters. They can't even feed themselves. Their food has to be provided to them. Once man understands that and stops feeding them, then maybe we can have all these healing technologies out on an open market.

    There's more and the truth about it can be ugly, but it is with hope we do something more about it to change it, because this old program has run it's course in my mind, and it hasn't worked out for the greatest good of our world and all that habit it. If we are the change, then so be it. But it takes action to get it done.

    I also would like to say that Brook has put together, an awesome thread. I think she should write a book about it. Don't you?
    Lionhawk wrote:Remember that these Dracs are exploiters. They assimilate technology like the Borg in Star Trek. Another comparison to consider is with an Alex Collier approach. I'll try to keep this as brief as possible.

    Has anyone really noticed the influence of the Feline Race in the Egyptian history? Sekhmet? She is depicted everywhere and the stories about her are packed full of lies. Another part of the cover up and they used her like they use everyone as to discredit or hide the real truth. Same as how they did it with the Mary energy. Mind you that Mother Mary represents one blood line and Sekhmet represents another. We are talking about Star bloodlines here.

    The Feline Race are our genetic parents. Not the Draconians. The Draconians couldn't use the technology to create anything with a God like potential. They could only create abominations, hybrids, etc. The Feline race had technology which worked within a planet to produce viable life with a God potential. In other words without limits. Keep in mind the simple fact that the Planet is the one with all the codes to produce the life on itself. The Feline race came here to enhance those planetary codes. When the Dracs decided to assimilate this world, they got too close to what the Feline Race was doing and tried to get their claws on that. They did get their claws on some of it and Thoth was the one who exploited it. However, he could not duplicate the technology they did manage to steal to the level of the original. I am speaking of the discs that were assigned to this Planet that were of the Feline Race.

    These disc were intended to enhance the Planet's ability to produce off spring that had maximum potential. A super human if you will. Ever lasting life was one of the attributes. It was also the main reason why the Dracs wanted this technology. They sought to increase their life spans because when you can live forever and can manipulate the species of a planet by shorting their life spans, will give a most distinctive advantage in terms of control. Part of the reason why many people back in the day were reported to have lived so long was because this technology was in Gaia's tool box. When the Dracs grabbed a sample of this technology, they, or more specifically Thoth, could only get about 20% efficiency when he duplicated it. Upon which, the Feline race and Mother Earth determined that if the Dracs got a firm hold on this technology, the Dracs would use it for destructive purposes and chance killing Gaia and everyone, all Kingdoms who reside here. So it was decided to have the original technology removed and for Gaia and all Kingdoms to have a better chance for survival without the Dracs influencing this technology to their will which would further create more abominations and so forth. This was the moment when the time line of Earth made a drastic adjustment. This was the reason for the step back that Anna Hayes had mentioned but the reasons given were not these details. Also for the record, I don't subscribe to her pricing of such information.

    Now what you have are what could be called duplicate discs that Thoth created and called the Emerald Tablets. These duplicates are networked around the planet, couple with some sort of field generator that in turns works as a cloak to their true identities, amongst other things, like mind control, etc.

    Point of fact that the general theory as to how these Dracs made it work in the way that it works has not changed. The methods are the same although they do employ different hardware. You can recognize the same patterns at different times in history. Even up to the present the method is the same. Before present technology in terms of amplifying, the Crystal Kingdom was used to transmit into the 3rd dimensional bandwidth. Now consider that these Dracs were transmitting from the lower fourth through the second, where these crystals resided, then into the third. No wonder no one could find them or the source to be more specific in terms of anomalous dark behavior or effects that seems very mystical. These crystal caverns were the perfect buffer as well to hold frequency patterned agendas. Now they use computers with huge buffers and transmit more effectively as in targeting specific regions or even small areas.

    This faction is still on the hunt for the real ones, discs that the Feline Race has since taken off world and put in other safer places. But they will never find them. They have made some wild attempts at the retrieval of these discs and Brook probably would be willing to share one of those ways that everyone is aware of.

    3 of these duplicates are in these states; Arkansas, Colorado, and Maryland. Underground and under heavy security. There are a small number more that are scattered about. Again, one is in the UK. These duplicates were transported out of Egypt using an underground network, under Egypt. Many of the Kings that were buried had many superstitions surrounding them. The King's treasure was always the bait to divert the real treasure. That being these discs and the artifacts that worked with these discs. These discs are not gold in color. Nor were the originals.

    Also keep in mind that the conflict in the Middle East isn't just about oil, and Star-gates. When the fall of Egypt was to occur in real time, the Dracs decided to set up in a new place and that place was England. Many think that the war that William Wallace fought was about the liberation from England. Guess again. As this story thickens.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Wow Lionhawk! Your posts always floor me! Can you tell me if Reptilian Beings have Human Souls? OR -- do Human Beings have Reptilian Souls? Are we all Human/Reptilian Hybrids --- with various percentage differentials? Are Greys really Reptilians? Do Humans, Reptilians, and Greys have more in common than we think? Is most of this madness homegrown --- going back thousands of years --- right here on Earth --- mostly in North Africa and the Southwestern United States? Is the U.S. really the 'Head of the Snake'? Do the Underground Bases and the City States constitute the Biblical Babylon? Is Lucifer the Whore of Babylon? 'What fate Omoroca?' (Stargate SG-1 'Fire and Water') Nuff said!
    Lionhawk wrote:There he is! Good to see you old friend! Always wondered where you went. I know many disappeared for awhile and justly so. Often thought as to what you found in your digging of the truth. You have been missed. Again, great to see you once again.  

    As far as flooring you, I will humbly take that as a compliment. But I'm not out here trying to floor anyone. Personally I think we are all basically truth seekers and we all have an individual way about going about it. Of course the cheap version of the truth is the copy and pasted version. Using only materials that someone researched and wrote out without doing any footwork to support their point of view.

    The better version is finding an idea and pursuing it and then write down what you found. The process of proving it out in real time. How many books have we read where someone just took pieces of information and just pieced a book together? Without any experience being applied or melded in the book. Originality is the best way to go about sharing ideas and working out the puzzles that comprise the truth.

    As to your questions, I will say I am no expert or an authority of other factions soul make ups. In my opinion however, I think the soul is of the same stuff across the board and it is whether how much light is allowed to shine by the free will of that soul or the choices that soul has made, regardless of the species it represents. Or the polarity.

    What is most disturbing is how these Dracs have cheated DEATH. Most systems that I am aware of have a death cycle or a transition cycle. Usually there is a station where the soul goes back to and gets debriefed and adjustments are made and new lessons are given and the soul starts again on another quest. These Dracs have found a way to by pass that and have their own place or station as it were, to re spawn with full memory of who or what they were previously. In part, the technology in Egypt was used to do this. Now I also know there are other aliens who have done this but most of them know of a higher consciousness is present and honor the processes in an alignment with a God presence. The Dracs only honor their own presence. Everything and every life form is considered below them. So when I hear that there are good reptilians out there, I always end up asking where.

    The greys are even a mystery. I think the government has a limited view point on them as well. Simply because they want to compartmentalize these beings. From what I have gathered, there are at least 20 species of this form out there. Not just the 4 types that have been revealed by government sources.

    I have already given you in the past what has happened to Lucifer. That wasn't something made up. It also hasn't changed as to what he chose for himself. It's a done deal. One that I was allowed to witness. That event just amazed me as to the Creator's level of grace that he/she exercises. It is unlimited. It also showed me how deep the Creator's love goes for all of his/her creations no matter what they have experienced in this Universe, good or bad. No matter what polarity or frequency, these souls have chosen to experience.

    This thread is a prime example of what I have mentioned in the above. Or the contents there of. And please don't feel like I dissed you by not answering all of your questions as some of those questions could apply in another thread and not here. I say that out of respect for what Brook is trying to accomplish in this thread.

    Glad you are here ODM!
    Lionhawk wrote:On a personal, I wanted to say to ODM that your presence here is much appreciated. Part of your gifts is to be able to get in there and tear it up and dissect. In this research field, that is a priceless gift to have. And just because you say you are not experiencing, I would say otherwise as you are always pushing the envelope to another "place of knowing." So maybe you might feel down trodden by all this research and all these agendas that surround us. We have all been there several times at least. I also can't stress this enough is to never give up. Many have and those that have, now have a bitter out look on this world and that only means they reflect that from within. That's not a healthy spiritual approach as proven by what illnesses befall on these people. So don't stop with what your flow is. When you do, things go awry. You are a major contributor with your postings and it is with wishes we all could use some ODM mojo with our research projects. Some do. Many don't. How many times have I heard the question, what would ODM think about this?

    You set a great example.
    Brook wrote:I traced this energy stream...and saw it was a tentacle. Of a much larger stream....and there were even more smaller tentacles attached to the main one. And above the large tentacle..was another stream...but I'll get to that one later. The large one was what threw me for a loop! It was authored by our good buddy Thoth!...it was the one that Crowley got tagged by. A very nasty program at that. Then I traced it back to the woman...there was a tentacle that read "Merovingian".....and off of that was a "new age" version.....the one that led to MICHAEL. Then it was brought to my attention that there are over 10 thousand other "Destiny's" out there, that commune with Michael....and this Michael that is in the program is likened to the Antichrist. I kid you not...
    Lionhawk wrote:This is very profound as you have discovered something here, that would give light as to what I am about to share.

    Three years ago or there about, I went on one of my excursions. I can only say that when I do go on a float about, my higher self is directing where I am to be for that moment. I was out in space just cruising along, just outside our solar system. If there are any remote viewers or dimensional travelers out there, you are more than welcome to confirm what I ran into. But proceed with extreme caution.

    As I was floating along, something caught my eye if you will. So I got a little closer. What I am about to describe is going to be difficult in the sense that you will have to rely upon your imagination to form this picture. Imagine if you will, an organism that looks like cancer in the brain, with tentacles coming out from a massive body. This thing was basically black in color with streaks or areas where it was red and also white. This thing was huge as in planetary size. It was also dead quiet as in no foreseeable activity. Just floating out there. I did a scan. The return of that scan told me that it was total evil. Also that it was an array that was transmitting signals. The tentacles that I saw were fat. This thing looked like it was well fed. I didn't see any of the much smaller tentacles as I kept my distance from this evil thing. After reading your posting, it all made sense as to how they are doing all of this and from where. This thing was a dark substation where they not only control the programs that you spoke of for the Planet, but what if we also say for this solar system.

    I didn't go and tamper with this thing. Evil vibrations just wreaked from it and I didn't want to get to close to this thing. But I will bet my life that this is where the source of what you have been digging into. This array where these programs are being transmitted from. Everything the darkside has hijacked and duplicated has been transform into some type of program. Just look at all the outside info coming in from various websites. You want verification? Check out Four Winds, Abundant Hope, Starship Capricorn Forum, The Tree of Golden light, to list a few. Salusa? My butt! The Galactic Federation starring your one and only Lord Sananda. Talk about a program that has captured so many souls or soul energy.

    I could go on and on about this. All these programs that are based with some truth to ensnare you so that they can attach these tentacles to you. Just look around you and see how people's hope get preyed upon. They serve you a little hope on a platter and then you become their dinner. Trappers they are and they prey for keeps. Now you know why the real ascended Masters always say to live in the first hand. Even Jesus said to test all things. If you have a belief, then prove it out in the first hand. To keep swallowing all these second hand programs keeps this madness going and consequently feeds that Beast I saw out in space. It is also real fat right now. I don't want to preach to the choir. Use some common sense for God's sake and don't subscribe to this second hand crap that is bent on stealing your soul. Part of the wake up process is to realize you are someone with your own potential. It is this potential that Jesus was trying to tell us about when he was incarnated here. He stated that we could do greater things than even he. You won't be able to do that if you are being subjected by some program. It's bad enough that we are being subjected to a program when we come through to incarnate here. Once you really wake up in your life stream, it is your responsibility to do yourself right.

    The harvesting of souls is going to happen on many levels. I just hope to God, people have enough common sense to make the right choices for themselves. These programs SUCK your soul. I have dealt with many of these programs and any good healers out there can tell you some of the stories as to how these things can attach to you. Even nano bots have been used. You just name a way.

    This is scary stuff Brook and the more I look at what you have brought to light here with this material, the more I realize how screwed up all this really is. It just blows me away as I watch so many keep dancing with these programs. Excellent work by the way.
    Lionhawk wrote:Brook, first off I want you to know what you have provided here by authoring this thread, is very much appreciated by several here, including myself. Your thread here is also not just based on a bunch of copy and paste work. To me that is invaluable that someone such as yourself has been willing to do the work in the first hand and share your findings with those who are not maybe in tune with this angle of history and the real story that has been covered up by the PTB. What you have provided here is a major hub of information also showing where many of the off shoots go off from it. Granted I have stayed away from posting in this thread due to the connection we share and as to not sway your research one way or the other. But it is refreshing to see someone put in an original effort in uncovering the truth and sharing with those who may have been duped like we all have been. Your thread here is one of the best on this forum from everything I've seen considering the content is a most misunderstood one. You took on a great feat and I personally think it is a work of perfection and I can only hope that others here see it that way as well.

    Many Blessings to you Brook! I know you poured your heart and soul into this one!
    Lionhawk wrote:Thank-you Instigator! Very well said and profoundly true. You get it! George Kavassilas also stated to go talk with Mother Earth yourself. Not to take his word for it. I agree with this. Do it in the first hand.

    It doesn't matter what has recently happened. It just is. It is another Planetary crime like all the rest. Why we continue to bend over and take it, makes no damn sense to me. All this love and light rhetoric isn't getting the job done. Especially done from a chair. Our arrogant butts just shine brightly. Thinking we are all that when at the same time, we are so fragmented. Comments like, connecting to my higher self, aspects of self being all over the Universe and so on. Why not just be yourself? All connected, instead of all this fragmented rhetoric that causes you to believe what you really are not. The Father, the Son, and the Holy ghost. If God is within you, the Christed consciousness is within you, and your supposed higher self is within you, your "BA", why not be all that, that is within you as one being? Why develop a schizoid personality by subscribing to these outside gurus that only serve the beast, separating and dissecting, causing you to fragment yourself in little itty bitty pieces. The love that you think you are representing will be just as fragmented and have very little radiance.

    Instigator said it best, when he said, "The universe will create a new law in our honor shortly The Law Of In-action and this will be a lesson known and understood by every form of consciousness through out the universe. (where magnificent gifted beings of the planet called earth were asleep and ignorant every incarnation and let a small group of low frequency beings of demonic origins control and manipulate the most gifted beings into in-action and thus the new Law was created)"

    If I may ask everyone, when was the last time you actually did something with your toolbox to raise the frequency of the Planet? Love is surely the answer as long as you administer it from a "whole state of being." If you can love this Planet in a real way and make the Draconians and Reptilians puke, as a reaction to that love that you administered without any negative intention towards them, then you did something. It is this kind of action that needs to be done. Make it so that they don't want to stay.

    And stop feeding the damn beast with organized group meditations. They can see you coming and set these groups all up to feed the beast. Part of spirituality is having some damn common sense. There are other ways to do this without feeding it. For one, it doesn't have to be announced! duh! You would be shocked to find out that many are willing to participate if you just open that door when you as an individual, opens it with the proper intention.

    And not all spirit records are kept at the Akashic records. Whoever said that lied to you. There are other specialty libraries that contain such records.

    Now you may wonder what all this has to do with this thread. The stay on topic Gods are probably angry. It has everything to do with it. What you don't understand is that some of those Egyptian Gods and Goddesses are still here today. In the now. We are getting visitations. We are being watched over. Even Buster picks up on it. And when we are getting these visitations, we listen and then investigate. These are not demonic entities, so let me put that to rest right now. Simply because they are of higher frequencies. It's kind of weird in a way. What have we done to attract these beings in the first place? Normally, folks try to connect to them. Such as chasing Jesus or an Angel. All I will say is that some of these beings are our Galactic family. Your ACTIONS is what will attract them to you. It doesn't have to be a chase.

    As it turns out, a couple of days ago, through Brook, one of these higher dimensional beings requested that "Lionhawk needs to visit Mother Earth to console her." Mind you, we had no real idea as to why that request was made. We honored that request however. If you only knew who requested it.

    If you want to know, may I suggest that you, yourself, visit Mother Earth yourself. Go to the core. You may not be allowed, however. That depends on you and as to how you embrace yourself. Fragmented vs. Whole or as One. Why not put it to the test for a change? Leave the "law book" behind because where you are going, is an unconditional place. (no disrespect to Mercuriel)

    Now I will just sit here in this chair for the rest of the week. Why, because I will be interested to see if anyone out there can come back with some feedback as to what they found. Also, I haven't been stuck in this chair. I've been working on stuff instead. I need a break to recharge. So I challenge thee to go out in the first hand. Do the do instead of the poo.

    I'll be waiting.
    Lionhawk wrote:I didn't write my last post to put people on the defensive. It isn't between you and me. It is between you and you. Maybe I didn't say the things you wanted to hear. I just spoke from my heart. I merely shared what I could. It isn't a pretty picture. How one finds themselves connected is on you and what you put into action is what you reflect. All this talk isn't getting the results we are seeking.

    I posed a challenge. That challenge is to connect with Mother Earth at the core and have a conversation with her. She is a spirit and if you are really spiritual as you claim with the talk, then this is something you can do. If I can do it so can you.

    The challenge still stands. No need for excuses. I've heard all of the excuses and those excuses are a waste of time. They are only a distraction to keep you from getting the results that boil in our hearts. So if you are walking the walk, it shouldn't be a problem now should it?

    Forgive me for drawing a hard line in the sand. But if you want to get rid of the enslavement program that we find our Planet and all the Kingdoms being strangle by, then these Draconians and Reptilians must go. I am talking about the root of it all and not the physical symptoms we end up dealing such as the Banks, Governments, Oil companies, and so forth. Get rid of the root and all these enslavement programs will just disappear.

    Now George has been the only one I knew of that saw Mother Earth turning into a star, besides myself. That's important to understand. I saw this myself back in 2003. Well if you go there, you will be able to validate that for yourself because she is already a star. And the Creator is always connected to her. So if you can connect to the Creator, you should have no problem connecting to her. She is the "Grand" mother of all of us. If it wasn't for her, none of us would be here. Remember when you take your next breathe of what I have mentioned here. Then it might just dawn on you.

    I guess what we will need to wake people up is some kind of alien invasion. Like in your back yard type of thing. Where it is irrefutable. A shock and awe event because people refuse to see with their own eyes, what is already in front of your noses. I know a lot of us are trying to prevent that, but will we succeed in preventing that will be determined by how many do wake up.

    As Beren also said that this Planet is also a gem in the Creator's eyes, it is also considered to be prime real estate by alien factions that would just love to exploit it and harvest us as a food source. Now go ahead and play the fear card. For those who are to comfortable in your chairs. Fact of the matter is that this Planet has already been invaded and if you can't see how that has occurred here in Brook's thread, then continue to read your comic books. Because the joke is going to be not just on the comic book readers, but all of us.

    It's time for many of us to either poop or get off the pot. It matters not what anyone decides as I have already made my choice concerning these times. I will continue my quest to liberate this Planet and I have staked my life to that resolve. What matters is what your resolve is and what you choose to do about it. Talking is not going to get it done right now. To much talk has already been going on and if that is all people want to do about it is just talk about all that warm and fuzzy crap, then you will reap what your talk has sown. And when that happens and the truth of these matters come to your very door, just know it will be to late.

    Do with it what you will. Just know I am fed up with all the talk, the suffering that this Planet endures on a daily basis, and the boring games we are enslaved to play in. Think on it at least.
    Lionhawk wrote:Malletzky, sorry I didn't beat around the bush as it were. Sorry I didn't reveal "my truth," to the extent of making everyone comfortable in their chairs. I posed a challenge in a straight up way. So far, in my opinion, no one has taken this seriously. Because if it was taken seriously, the responses to what I posed would reflect it. I also said to do it in the first hand. Meaning that I wanted anyone with the integrity required, to not assume anything, and have a DIRECT experience with Mother Earth. I get requests to reveal it all and I am not in the business of doing that anymore. But I gave enough information out that was worthy of personal investigation. So far it would seem to be a failure of sorts, although it wasn't a preplanned experiment.

    The goal was worthy. Worthy for everyone. To find out and self discover that connection to Mother in a real way. Everyone claims to be connected and yet I know of very few who really are. The rest is just talk. Also what that connection represents to anyone personally. It is one of honor at least for me. And yet people act as though they are entitled to ascend with Mother Earth, but don't reflect that in their words. As a council of Shamans once said to me, "that many do not speak with their hearts."

    Also to find out what happened from Mother Earth herself. She has a loving voice but did anyone listen? Why ask me when you can ask her?

    These Draconians and Reptilians are the ones who severed the connection between Mother Earth and her children. They have hijacked all of the systems and are squeezing it, compressing it with whatever design they seem to imagine. I am, if anything, asking those who are able to re-establish that personal connection to the Planet. If you can't, that also means you can't connect to this solar system, and beyond that. What is not being said here is that this solar system is much more connected than anyone gives it credit. But hey if your are connected to the Creator, you would know that right? I see very little knowings in this regard and many who only are wantabees but are not willing to do what it takes to get there. They would just rather have the information provided to them.

    I have been in the field and I am not saying a lot. I am withholding information. By what I have seen so far, I may as well just shut the hell up period. At least that is what I feel like I should do at this given time. Why, because it hasn't made one difference. I will still continue to share information behind the scenes with those who are walking the path, but I see no further sense to display it in the public eye. If you are not in my inner circle, please don't feel as though I have judged you. It's just that we didn't have a enough time to find out what is up and down in that regard.

    Hope that clears that up for you Brother. Please understand that what I posed was of the highest intention for those who are able.

    What did Mother tell you? That is what I would like to know.

    Go in peace people. I'm going fishing.
    There are other posts which answer the 'Lucifer Question' and I'll post whatever I find, but Siriusly, perhaps we should spend some time reviewing what Lionhawk aka Morpheus posted a few years ago. I might begin to do that on 'my' USSS Deep State Nine thread. If that's a problem, I'll stop and/or do something different. I've re-posted a lot of Brook's material within 'my' threads. Unfortunately, my church disillusioned me decades ago, and the alternatives disillusioned me even more, so I dropped-out and turned-off. I sort of turned back on around 2008, but I quickly found myself in 'Spiritual-Quicksand' and I'm in way too-deep presently. I'm massively-destabilized and tragically-hamstrung, so I can't properly deal with any of this stuff. I can't even properly deal with real-life. Perhaps Ignorance is Bliss and Virtue for Completely Ignorant Fools Such as Myself. I'm apparently an Esoteric-Dumbsh!t, so perhaps I should simply read the newspaper, and leave the heavy-lifting to others. Perhaps I'm the 'Wrong-Stuff' for Purgatory Incorporated. Perhaps its better to 'Leave Hell-Enough Alone'.

    I frankly don't trust anyone or anything when it comes to Antiquity, Futurity, the Otherworldly, and the Supernatural. How Do We REALLY KNOW?? Lies and Stories can be written and repeated. People lie all the time. I've been reduced to treating most of this stuff as Science-Fiction which might contain some elements of truth. When I asked an Individual of Interest who they REALLY WERE, I thought I heard them whisper "Lucifer" but I didn't ask follow-up questions. Perhaps I should've. What if Sun-Gods in this universe MUST be a combination of Good and Evil, especially if this universe is One HUGE Star-War?? What if Sun-Gods can easily transition back and forth between Good and Evil?? I am extremely apprehensive regarding the Nature of God and the Universe. When I asked an Individual of Interest about the true state of affairs regarding this Solar System and Beyond, they said "You Don't Want to Know." The Bible is virtually Silent regarding "Lucifer". This is shocking, especially regarding how much Christianity depends on Lucifer and/or the Devil to take the blame for the Ills of the World. In the Bible, God often seems to be Unethical and Violent. What if most everyone and everything are bad (throughout the universe)?? I asked "RA" about how good or bad humanity was, and he replied "Everyone is Bad." I asked him "How Good is Too Good??" He didn't have an answer. "RA" was a "Sinister CEO" Kind of Guy!!

    I kept thinking and privately muttering "Everyone Hates Me!!" One night, "RA" said "You think everyone hates you, but they REALLY Hate ME!!" What if Supercomputers Will Replace Sun-Gods Throughout the Universe?? What if Good Sun-Gods Quickly Become Bad Sun-Gods?? Does Absolute-Power ALWAYS Corrupt Absolutely?? "RA" said "You Will Manifest Your Bad-Side." What if "Lucifer" = "Sun-God" as a "Job-Title" rather than a "Proper-Name"?? I suspect that "Lucifer" has Multiple-Personalities and Multiple-Bodies. I think I've sensed and seen evidence of this. Honest. I don't lie about this stuff. I might "get it wrong" or "slightly-exaggerate" but I don't "practice to deceive". Finally, I recommend reading The Lucifer Diary by Attorney Lewis Walton. I've been present at several of his lectures, and I've spoken with him privately. Once, a very-long time ago, he told me that if Jesus showed-up (presumably prior to the Second-Coming of Christ) the church wouldn't know what to do with Him!! His 'Lucifer' book is very different than his other books, and somehow, I can't imagine Lewis actually writing this book. It scared the hell out of me!! That's all I'm going to say. https://www.amazon.com/Lucifer-Diary-Lewis-R-Walton/dp/0965683427/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495645988&sr=8-1&keywords=lucifer+diary

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer Lucifer (/ˈluːsɪfər/;[1][2][3] LOO-sif-ər) is the King James Version rendering of the Hebrew word הֵילֵל in Isaiah (Isaiah 14:12). The Vulgate translation uses the Latin word lucifer, but with a lower-case initial,[4] The Hebrew word, transliterated Hêlêl[5] or Heylel (pron. as HAY-lale),[6] occurs once in the Hebrew Bible[5] and according to the KJV-based Strong's Concordance means "shining one, light-bearer".[6] The Septuagint renders הֵילֵל in Greek as ἑωσφόρος[7][8][9][10][11] (heōsphoros),[12][13][14] a name, literally "bringer of dawn", for the morning star.[15] The word Lucifer is taken from the Latin Vulgate,[16] which translates הֵילֵל as lucifer,[17][18] meaning "the morning star, the planet Venus", or, as an adjective, "light-bringing".[19]

    Later Christian tradition came to use the Latin word for "morning star", lucifer, as a proper name ("Lucifer") for the devil; as he was before his fall.[20] As a result, "'Lucifer' has become a by-word for Satan / the Devil in the church and in popular literature",[16] as in Dante Alighieri's Inferno, Joost van den Vondel's Lucifer and John Milton's Paradise Lost.[14] However, the Latin word never came to be used almost exclusively, as in English, in this way, and was applied to others also, including Jesus.[21] The image of a morning star fallen from the sky is generally believed among scholars to have a parallel in Canaanite mythology.[22]

    However, according to both Christian[23] and Jewish exegesis, in the Book of Isaiah, chapter 14, the King of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar II, conqueror of Jerusalem, is condemned in a prophetic vision by the prophet Isaiah and is called the "Morning Star" (planet Venus).[24][25] In this chapter the Hebrew text says הֵילֵל בֶּן-שָׁחַר (Helel ben Shachar, "shining one, son of the morning").[26] "Helel ben Shahar" may refer to the Morning Star, but the text in Isaiah 14 gives no indication that Helel was a star or planet.[27][28]

    Translation of הֵילֵל as "Lucifer", as in the King James Version, has been abandoned in modern English translations of Isaiah 14:12. Present-day translations have "morning star" (New International Version, New Century Version, New American Standard Bible, Good News Translation, Holman Christian Standard Bible, Contemporary English Version, Common English Bible, Complete Jewish Bible), "daystar" (New Jerusalem Bible, English Standard Version, The Message, "Day Star" New Revised Standard Version), "shining one" (New Life Version, New World Translation, JPS Tanakh) or "shining star" (New Living Translation).

    The term appears in the context of an oracle against a dead king of Babylon,[29] who is addressed as הילל בן שחר (Hêlêl ben Šāḥar),[30][31] rendered by the King James Version as "O Lucifer, son of the morning!" and by others as "morning star, son of the dawn".

    In a modern translation from the original Hebrew, the passage in which the phrase "Lucifer" or "morning star" occurs begins with the statement: "On the day the Lord gives you relief from your suffering and turmoil and from the harsh labour forced on you, you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon: How the oppressor has come to an end! How his fury has ended!"[32] After describing the death of the king, the taunt continues:

    "How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, 'I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.' But you are brought down to the realm of the dead, to the depths of the pit. Those who see you stare at you, they ponder your fate: 'Is this the man who shook the earth and made kingdoms tremble, the man who made the world a wilderness, who overthrew its cities and would not let his captives go home?'"[33]

    J. Carl Laney has pointed out that in the final verses here quoted, the king of Babylon is described not as a god or an angel but as a man; and that man may have been not Nebuchadnezzar II, but rather his son, Belshazzar. During the trito Isaiah period of the Persian sacking of the Neo-Babylonian Empire, Nebuchadnezzar was gripped by a spiritual fervor to build a temple to the moon god Sin (possibly analogous with Hubal, the primary God of pre-Islamic Mecca), and his son ruled as regent. The Abrahamic scriptural texts could be interpreted as a weak usurping of true kingly power, and a taunt at the failed regency of Belshazzar.[34][35]

    For the unnamed[36] "king of Babylon" a wide range of identifications have been proposed.[37] They include a Babylonian ruler of the prophet Isaiah's own time[37] the later Nebuchadnezzar II, under whom the Babylonian captivity of the Jews began, or Nabonidus,[37][38] and the Assyrian kings Tiglath-Pileser, Sargon II and Sennacherib.[34][37][39] Herbert Wolf held that the "king of Babylon" was not a specific ruler but a generic representation of the whole line of rulers.[40]

    In ancient Canaanite mythology, the morning star is pictured as a god, Attar, who attempted to occupy the throne of Ba'al and, finding he was unable to do so, descended and ruled the underworld.[41][42] The original myth may have been about a lesser god Helel trying to dethrone the Canaanite high god El who lived on a mountain to the north.[43][44] Hermann Gunkel's reconstruction of the myth told of a mighty warrior called Hêlal, whose ambition it was to ascend higher than all the other stellar divinities, but who had to descend to the depths; it thus portrayed as a battle the process by which the bright morning star fails to reach the highest point in the sky before being faded out by the rising sun.[45]

    Similarities have been noted with the East Semitic story of Ishtar's or Inanna's descent into the underworld,[44] Ishtar and Inanna being associated with the planet Venus.[46] A connection has been seen also with the Babylonian myth of Etana. The Jewish Encyclopedia comments:

    "The brilliancy of the morning star, which eclipses all other stars, but is not seen during the night, may easily have given rise to a myth such as was told of Ethana and Zu: he was led by his pride to strive for the highest seat among the star-gods on the northern mountain of the gods ... but was hurled down by the supreme ruler of the Babylonian Olympus."[47] The Greek myth of Phaethon, whose name, like that of הֵילֵל, means "Shining One", has also been seen as similar.[45]

    The Eerdmans Commentary on the Bible points out that no evidence has been found of any Canaanite myth of a god being thrown from heaven, as in Isaiah 14:12. It concludes that the closest parallels with Isaiah's description of the king of Babylon as a fallen morning star cast down from heaven are to be found not in any lost Canaanite and other myths but in traditional ideas of the Jewish people themselves, echoed in the Biblical account of the fall of Adam and Eve, cast out of God's presence for wishing to be as God, and the picture in Psalm 82 of the "gods" and "sons of the Most High" destined to die and fall.[29] This Jewish tradition has echoes also in Jewish pseudepigrapha such as 2 Enoch and the Life of Adam and Eve.[29][47][48]

    The Hebrew words הֵילֵל בֶּן-שָׁחַר (Helel ben Shaḥar, "day-star, son of the morning")[6][28] in Isaiah 14:12 are part of a prophetic vision against an oppressive king of Babylon.[49] Jewish exegesis of Isaiah 14:12–15 identified the king of Babylon as Nebuchadnezzar II.[50] Verse 20 says that this king of Babylon will not be "joined with them [all the kings of the nations] in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, thou hast slain thy people; the seed of evil-doers shall not be named for ever", but rather be cast out of the grave, while "All the kings of the nations, all of them, sleep in glory, every one in his own house".[28][51]

    As an adjective, the Latin word lucifer meant "light-bringing" and was applied to the moon.[19] As a noun, it meant "morning star", or, in Roman mythology, its divine personification as "the fabled son of Aurora[52] and Cephalus, and father of Ceyx", or (in poetry) "day".[19] The second of the meanings attached to the word when used as a noun corresponds to the image in Greek mythology of Eos, the goddess of dawn, giving birth to the morning star Phosphorus.[52]

    Isaiah 14:12 is not the only place where the Vulgate uses the word lucifer. It uses the same word four more times, in contexts where it clearly has no reference to a fallen angel: 2 Peter 1:19 (meaning "morning star"), Job 11:17 ("the light of the morning"), Job 38:32 ("the signs of the zodiac") and Psalms 110:3 ("the dawn").[53] Lucifer is not the only expression that the Vulgate uses to speak of the morning star: three times it uses stella matutina: Sirach 50:6 (referring to the actual morning star), and Revelation 2:28 (of uncertain reference) and 22:16 (referring to Jesus). Indications that in Christian tradition the Latin word lucifer, unlike the English word, did not necessarily call a fallen angel to mind exist also outside the text of the Vulgate. Two bishops bore that name: Saint Lucifer of Cagliari, and Lucifer of Siena.

    In Latin, the word is applied to John the Baptist and is used as a title of Jesus himself in several early Christian hymns. The morning hymn Lucis largitor splendide of Hilary contains the line: "Tu verus mundi lucifer" (you are the true light bringer of the world).[54] Some interpreted the mention of the morning star (lucifer) in Ambrose's hymn Aeterne rerum conditor as referring allegorically to Jesus and the mention of the XXXX, the herald of the day (praeco) in the same hymn as referring to John the Baptist.[55] Likewise, in the medieval hymn Christe qui lux es et dies, some manuscripts have the line "Lucifer lucem proferens".[56]

    The Latin word lucifer is also used of Jesus in the Easter Proclamation prayer to God regarding the paschal candle: Flammas eius lucifer matutinus inveniat: ille, inquam, lucifer, qui nescit occasum. Christus Filius tuus, qui, regressus ab inferis, humano generi serenus illuxit, et vivit et regnat in saecula saeculorum ("May this flame be found still burning by the Morning Star: the one Morning Star who never sets, Christ your Son, who, coming back from death's domain, has shed his peaceful light on humanity, and lives and reigns for ever and ever"). In the works of Latin grammarians, Lucifer, like Daniel, was discussed as an example of a personal name.[57]

    In the Second Temple period literature the main possible reference is found in 2 Enoch, also known as Slavonic Enoch: 2 Enoch 29:3 Here Satanail was hurled from the height together with his angels. However the editor of the standard modern edition (Charlesworth, Old Testament Pseudepigrapha Vol.1) pipelines[clarification needed] the verse as a probable later Christian interpolation on the grounds that "Christian explanations of the origin of evil linked Lk 10:18 with Isa 14 and eventually Gen. 3 so vs 4 could be a Christian interpolation... Jewish theology concentrated on Gen 6., and this is prominent in the Enoch cycle as in other apocalypses." Furthermore, the name used in 2 Enoch, Satanail, is not directly related to the Isaiah 14 text, and the surrounding imagery of fire suggests Ezekiel 28:17–18.[58]

    Other instances of lucifer in the Old Testament pseudepigrapha are related to the "star" Venus, in the Sibylline Oracles battle of the constellations (line 517) "Lucifer fought mounted on the back of Leo",[59] or the entirely rewritten Christian version of the Greek Apocalypse of Ezra 4:32 which has a reference to Lucifer as Antichrist.[60] An association of Isaiah 14:12–18 with a personification of evil, called the devil developed outside of mainstream Rabbinic Judaism in pseudepigrapha and Christian writings,[61] particularly with the apocalypses.[62] Especially Isaiah 14:12, became a dominant conception of a fallen angel motif[63] in 1 Enoch 86-90 and 2 Enoch 29:3–4.[clarification needed] Rabbinical Judaism rejected any belief in rebel or fallen angels.[64] In the 11th century, the Pirqe de-Rabbi Eliezer illustrates the origin of the "fallen angel myth" by giving two accounts, one relates to the angel in the Garden of Eden who seduces Eve, and the other relates to the angels, the benei elohim who cohabit with the daughters of man (Genesis 6:1–4).[65]

    Christian writers applied the words of Isaiah 14:12 to Satan. Sigve K Tonstad argues that the New Testament War in Heaven theme of Revelation 12:7-9, in which the dragon "who is called the devil and Satan … was thrown down to the earth", derives from the passage in Isaiah 14.[66] Origen (184/185 – 253/254) interpreted such Old Testament passages as being about manifestations of the Devil; but of course, writing in Greek, not Latin, he did not identify the devil with the name "Lucifer".[67][68][69][70] Tertullian (c. 160 – c. 225), who wrote in Latin, also understood Isaiah 14:14 ("I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High") as spoken by the Devil,[71] but "Lucifer" is not among the numerous names and phrases he used to describe the devil.[72] Even at the time of the Latin writer Augustine of Hippo (354–430), "Lucifer" had not yet become a common name for the Devil.[67] Some time later, the metaphor of the morning star that Isaiah 14:12 applied to a king of Babylon gave rise to the general use of the Latin word for "morning star", capitalized, as the original name of the devil before his fall from grace, linking Isaiah 14:12 with Luke 10:18 ("I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven") and interpreting the passage in Isaiah as an allegory of Satan's fall from heaven.[73][74]

    However, the understanding of the morning star in Isaiah 14:12 as a metaphor referring to a king of Babylon continued also to exist among Christians. Theodoret of Cyrus (c. 393 – c. 457) wrote that Isaiah calls the king "morning star", not as being the star, but as having had the illusion of being it.[75] The same understanding is shown in Christian translations of the passage, which in English generally use "morning star" rather than treating the word as a proper name, "Lucifer". So too in other languages, such as French,[76] German,[77] Portuguese,[78] and Spanish.[79] Even the Vulgate text in Latin is printed with lower-case lucifer (morning star), not upper-case Lucifer (proper name).[18] Calvin said: "The exposition of this passage, which some have given, as if it referred to Satan, has arisen from ignorance: for the context plainly shows these statements must be understood in reference to the king of the Babylonians."[80] Luther also considered it a gross error to refer this verse to the devil.[81] Gustave Doré, illustration to Paradise Lost, book IX, 179–187: "... he [Satan] held on /His midnight search, where soonest he might finde /The Serpent: him fast sleeping soon he found ..."

    Adherents of the King James Only movement and others who hold that Isaiah 14:12 does indeed refer to the devil have decried the modern translations.[82][83][84] Treating "Lucifer" as a name for the devil or Satan, they may use that name when speaking of such accounts of the devil or Satan as the following:

    Satan inciting David to number Israel (1 Chronicles 21:1), though in 2 Samuel 24:1 it is stated that God caused David to take census of Israel, possibly pointing to a deeply rooted Gnostic belief in which the archons ascribed to Satan and Jehovah are merely archons—a dualist expression of the Monad's will, and part of the demiurge. Job tested by Satan (Book of Job) Satan ready to accuse the high priest Joshua (Zechariah 3:1–2) Sin brought into the world through the devil's envy (Wisdom 2:24) "The prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience" (Ephesians 2:2) "The god of this world" (2 Corinthians 4:4). The devil disputing with Michael about the body of Moses (Jude 1:9) The dragon of the Book of Revelation "who is called the devil and Satan" (Revelation 12:9;20:2)

    They may also use the name Lucifer when speaking of Satan's motive for rebelling and of the nature of his sin, which, without using the name Lucifer, Origen, Chrysostom, Jerome, Ambrose, and Augustine attributed to the devil's pride, and Irenaeus, Tertullian, Justin Martyr, Cyprian, and again Augustine attributed to the devil's envy of humanity created in the image of God.[85][86][87] Jealousy of humans, created in the divine image and given authority over the world is the motive that a modern writer, who denies that there is any such person as Lucifer, says that Tertullian attributed to the devil,[88] and, while he cited Tertullian and Augustine as giving envy as the motive for the fall, an 18th-century French Capuchin preacher himself described the rebel angel as jealous of Adam's exaltation, which he saw as a diminution of his own status.[87]

    In Islam the Devil is known as Iblīs (Arabic: إبليس‎‎, plural: ابالسة abālisah) or Shaytān (Arabic: شيطان‎‎, plural: شياطين shayātīn). Iblis is banished from heaven for refusing to prostrate himself before Adam, which is similar to the earlier 3 Enoch, chapter 4, in which all of the angels prostrate themselves before Enoch, an early descendant of Adam. Thus, he sins after the creation of man. He asks God for a respite until judgment day rather than being consigned to the fire of hell immediately. God grants this request, and Iblis then swears revenge by tempting human beings and turning them away from God. God tells him that any humans who follow him will join him in the fire of hell at judgment day, but that Iblis will have no power over all mankind except who wants to follow Iblis.[citation needed] This story is cited multiple times in the Qur'an for different reasons.

    Islamic literature presents Iblis as God worshipping and very pious until he refused to prostrate to Adam due to his jealousy and pride.[89][90] Iblis is also considered to a type of supernatural being known as the Jinn, instead of an angel, who were made out of smokeless fire and created before humankind.[91][92][93][94]

    Rudolf Steiner's writings, which formed the basis for Anthroposophy, characterised Lucifer as a spiritual opposite to Ahriman, with Christ between the two forces, mediating a balanced path for humanity. Lucifer represents an intellectual, imaginative, delusional, otherworldly force which might be associated with visions, subjectivity, psychosis and fantasy. He associated Lucifer with the religious/philosophical cultures of Egypt, Rome and Greece. Steiner believed that Lucifer, as a supersensible Being, had incarnated in China about 3000 years before the birth of Christ.

    Luciferianism is a belief system that venerates the essential characteristics that are affixed to Lucifer. The tradition, influenced by Gnosticism, usually reveres Lucifer not as the devil, but as a liberator, a guardian or guiding spirit[95] or even the true god as opposed to Jehovah.[96] In Anton LaVey's The Satanic Bible, Lucifer is one of the four crown princes of hell, particularly that of the East, the 'lord of the air', and is called the bringer of light, the morning star, intellectualism, and enlightenment.[97] The title 'lord of the air' is based upon Ephesians 2:2, which uses the phrase 'prince of the power of the air' to refer to the pagan god Zeus, but that phrase later became conflated with Satan. Author Michael W. Ford has written on Lucifer as a "mask" of the adversary, a motivator and illuminating force of the mind and subconscious.[98]

    Léo Taxil (1854–1907) claimed that Freemasonry is associated with worshipping Lucifer. In what is known as the Taxil hoax, he alleged that leading Freemason Albert Pike had addressed "The 23 Supreme Confederated Councils of the world" (an invention of Taxil), instructing them that Lucifer was God, and was in opposition to the evil god Adonai. Supporters of Freemasonry contend that, when Albert Pike and other Masonic scholars spoke about the "Luciferian path," or the "energies of Lucifer," they were referring to the Morning Star, the light bearer,[99] the search for light; the very antithesis of dark, satanic evil. Taxil promoted a book by Diana Vaughan (actually written by himself, as he later confessed publicly)[100] that purported to reveal a highly secret ruling body called the Palladium, which controlled the organization and had a satanic agenda. As described by Freemasonry Disclosed in 1897:

    With frightening cynicism, the miserable person we shall not name here [Taxil] declared before an assembly especially convened for him that for twelve years he had prepared and carried out to the end the most sacrilegious of hoaxes. We have always been careful to publish special articles concerning Palladism and Diana Vaughan. We are now giving in this issue a complete list of these articles, which can now be considered as not having existed.[101] Taxil's work and Pike's address continue to be quoted by anti-masonic groups.[102] In Devil-Worship in France, Arthur Edward Waite compared Taxil's work to what today we would call a tabloid story, replete with logical and factual inconsistencies.

    See also

    Ahura Mazda
    Angra Mainyu
    Asura
    Devil
    Phosphorus (morning star)
    Devil in popular culture
    Doctor Faustus (play)
    Earendel
    Eosphoros
    Guardian of the Threshold
    Inferno (Dante), the first of the three canticas of Divine Comedy
    Luceafărul (poem), a poem by the poet Mihai Eminescu
    Luceafărul, a literary magazine
    Luciferianism
    The Lucifer Effect
    Satan
    Shahar
    Venus (astrology)
    Venus (mythology)
    2010 (film)

    Further reading

    Charlesworth, edited by James H. (2010). The Old Testament pseudepigrapha. Peabody, Mass.: Hendrickson. ISBN 1-59856-491-9.
    TBD; Elwell, Walter A.; Comfort, Philip W. (2001). Walter A. Elwell; Philip Wesley Comfort, eds. Tyndale Bible Dictionary, Dayspring, Daystar. Wheaton, Ill.: Tyndale House Publishers. p. 363. ISBN 0842370897.
    Campbell, Joseph (1972). Myths To Live By (Repr. 2nd ed.). [London]: Souvenir Press. ISBN 0-285-64731-8.
    http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/vul/isa014.htm

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    Regarding a Hypothetical Borg-Queen, the Queen might control the Supercomputer OR the Queen might be controlled by the Supercomputer. Evil-Empire > Queen-A > Supercomputer-Network > Queen-B > Secret-Government > We The Peons?? This basic concept might be good or bad, depending on the goodness and badness of the Queen(s) and Supercomputer(s). This thing could be an incredibly slippery-slope in a potentially lawless and violent universe. It seems as if we might be dealing with the Father (Zeus, Hercules, et al), Mother (Sophia, Artemis, Diana, et al), and Son (In Place of Father). I won't be too specific, mostly because I don't know (and I'm not sure I wish to know). What Would King David, the Queen of Sheba, and King Solomon Say?? I continue to suspect that All of Us came here as Aliens and/or Angels from Orion in Antiquity, and set-up this Solar-System as an Alien-Laboratory for Technological, Genetic, and Governance Research (possibly not authorized by the Empire). Biblical-Research Should NOT Be Separated From Star-Wars!! I continue to suspect Three Major Factions (possibly with legion fractions of  factions). Here's an alternative historical-approach to Biblical-Studies:

    1. 1 Chronicles.
    2. 2 Chronicles.
    3. Ezra.
    4. Nehemiah.
    5. Esther.
    6. Job.
    7. Song of Solomon.
    8. Luke.
    9. John.
    10. Acts.

    What if all of the above are historical-fiction, containing a mixture of fact and fiction, laced with wisdom and lessons, possibly for both good and bad purposes?? Here's an alternative theological-approach to Biblical-Studies:

    1. Psalms.
    2. Proverbs.
    3. Ecclesiastes.
    4. Isaiah.
    5. Jeremiah.
    6. Lamentations.
    7. Ezekiel.
    8. Daniel.
    9. Romans to Revelation.

    One could argue various alternatives to all of the above, but these collections highlight the varieties of outcomes which arise from varieties of approaches to Biblical-Studies. And this obviously sidesteps other approaches to life, the universe, and everything. This stuff could place a lot of people in mental-institutions. Researchers Beware. Here are a few words of wisdom:


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_(wisdom) Sophia (Greek: σοφία sophía 'wisdom') is a central idea in Hellenistic philosophy and religion, Platonism, Gnosticism, and Christian theology. Originally carrying a meaning of "cleverness, skill", the later meaning of the term, close to the meaning of Phronesis ("wisdom, intelligence"), was significantly shaped by the term philosophy ("love of sophia") as used by Plato.

    In Orthodox and Roman Catholic Christianity, Holy Wisdom (Hagia Sophia) is an expression for God the Mother in the Trinity (as in the dedication of the church of Hagia Sophia in Constantinople) and, frequently, for the Holy Spirit.

    References to "Wisdom" (Sophia) in the Old Testament translate to the Hebrew term Chokhmah.

    The Ancient Greek word sophia (σοφία, sophía) is the abstract noun of σοφός (sophós), which variously translates to "clever, skillful, intelligent, wise". These words share the same Proto-Indo-European root as the Latin verb sapere (lit. "to taste; discern"), whence sapientia.[1] The noun σοφία as "skill in handicraft and art" is Homeric and in Pindar is used to describe both Hephaistos and Athena.

    Before Plato, the term for "sound judgement, intelligence, practical wisdom" and so on, such qualities as are ascribed to the Seven Sages, was phronesis (φρόνησις, phrónēsis), from phren (φρήν, phrēn, lit. "mind"), while sophia referred to technical skill.

    The term philosophia (φῐλοσοφῐ́ᾱ, philosophíā, lit. "love of wisdom") was primarily used after the time of Plato, following his teacher Socrates, though it has been said that Pythagoras was the first to call himself a philosopher. This understanding of philosophia permeates Plato's dialogues, especially the Republic. In that work, the leaders of the proposed utopia are to be philosopher kings: rulers who are lovers of wisdom. According to Plato in Apology, Socrates himself was dubbed "the wisest [σοφώτατός, sophṓtatós] man of Greece" by the Pythian Oracle. Socrates defends this verdict in Apology to the effect that he, at least, knows that he knows nothing. Socratic skepticism is contrasted with the approach of the sophists, who are attacked in Gorgias for relying merely on eloquence. Cicero in De Oratore later criticized Plato for his separation of wisdom from eloquence.[2] Sophia is named as one of the four cardinal virtues (in place of phronesis) in Plato's Protagoras.

    Philo, a Hellenized Jew writing in Alexandria, attempted to harmonize Platonic philosophy and Jewish scripture. Also influenced by Stoic philosophical concepts, he used the Greek term logos (λόγος, lógos) for the role and function of Wisdom, a concept later adapted by the author of the Gospel of John in the opening verses and applied to Jesus Christ as the Word (Logos) of God the Father.[3]

    In Gnosticism, Sophia is a feminine figure, analogous to the soul, but also simultaneously one of the emanations of the Monad. Gnostics held that she was the syzygy of Jesus Christ (i.e. the Bride of Christ) and was the Holy Spirit of the Trinity. She is occasionally referred to by the Hebrew equivalent of Achamṓth (Ἀχαμώθ; Hebrew: חָכְמָה‬, khokhmá) and as Proúnikos (Προύνικος).

    Christian theology received the Old Testament personification of Divine Wisdom (Hebrew Chokhmah, LXX Sophia, Vulgate Sapientia). The connection of Divine Wisdom to the concept of the Logos resulted in the interpretation of "Holy Wisdom" (Hagia Sophia) as an aspect of Christ the Logos.[4]

    The expression Ἁγία Σοφία itself is not found in the New Testament, even though passages in the Pauline epistles equate Christ with the "wisdom of God" (θεοῦ σοφία).[5] The clearest form of the identification of Divine Wisdom with Christ comes in 1 Corinthians 1:17-2:13. In 1 Cor. 2:7, Paul speaks of the Wisdom of God as a mystery which was "ordained before the world unto our glory".

    Following 1 Corinthians, the Church Fathers named Christ as "Wisdom of God".[6] Therefore, when rebutting claims about Christ's ignorance, Gregory of Nazianzus insisted that, inasmuch as he was divine, Christ knew everything: "How can he be ignorant of anything that is, when he is Wisdom, the maker of the worlds, who brings all things to fulfilment and recreates all things, who is the end of all that has come into being?" (Orationes, 30.15). Irenaeus represents another, minor patristic tradition which identified the Spirit of God, and not Christ himself, as "Wisdom" (Adversus haereses, 4.20.1–3; cf. 3.24.2; 4.7.3; 4.20.3). He could appeal to Paul's teaching about wisdom being one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 12:Cool. However, the majority applied to Christ the title/name of "Wisdom".

    Emperor Constantine set a pattern for Eastern Christians by dedicating a church to Christ as the personification of Divine Wisdom.[4] In Constantinople, under Emperor Justinian, Hagia Sophia ("Holy Wisdom") was rebuilt, consecrated in 538, and became a model for many other Byzantine churches. In the Latin Church, however, "the Word" or Logos came through more clearly than "the Wisdom" of God as a central, high title of Christ.

    In the theology of the Eastern Orthodox Church, Holy Wisdom is understood as the Divine Logos who became incarnate as Jesus Christ;[7] this belief being sometimes also expressed in some Eastern Orthodox icons.[8] In the Divine Liturgy of the Orthodox Church, the exclamation Sophia! or in English Wisdom! will be proclaimed by the deacon or priest at certain moments, especially before the reading of scripture, to draw the congregation's attention to sacred teaching.

    There is a hagiographical tradition, dating to the late 6th century,[9] of a Saint Sophia and her three daughters, Saints Faith, Hope and Charity. This has been taken as the veneration of allegorical figures from an early time, and the group of saints has become popular in Russian Orthodox iconography as such (the names of the daughters rendered as Вѣра, Надежда, Любовь). The veneration of the three saints named for the three theological virtues probably arose in the 6th century.[10]

    The Christological identification of Christ the Logos with Divine Wisdom (Hagia Sophia) is strongly represented in the iconographic tradition of the Russian Orthodox Church. A type of icon of the Theotokos is "Wisdom hath builded Her house" (Премудрость созда Себе дом), a quote from Proverbs 9:1 ("Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars") interpreted as prefiguring the incarnation, with the Theotokos being the "house" chosen by the "hypostatic Wisdom" (i.e. "Wisdom" as a person of the Trinity).

    In Russian Orthodox mysticism, Sophia became increasingly indistinguishable from the person of the Theotokos (rather than Christ), to the point of the implication of the Theotokos as a "fourth person of the Trinity". Such interpretations became popular in the late 19th to early 20th century, forwarded by authors such as Vladimir Solovyov, Pavel Florensky, Nikolai Berdyaev, and Sergei Bulgakov. Bulgakov's theology, known as "Sophianism", presented Divine Wisdom as co-existent with the Trinity, operating as the feminine aspect of God in concert with the three masculine principles of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. It was the topic of a highly political controversy in the early 1930s and was condemned as heretical in 1935.[7][11]
    Within the Protestant tradition in England, Jane Leade, 17th-century Christian mystic, Universalist, and founder of the Philadelphian Society, wrote copious descriptions of her visions and dialogues with the "Virgin Sophia" who, she said, revealed to her the spiritual workings of the Universe.[12] Leade was hugely influenced by the theosophical writings of 16th century German Christian mystic Jakob Böhme, who also speaks of the Sophia in works such as The Way to Christ (1624).[13] Jakob Böhme was very influential to a number of Christian mystics and religious leaders, including George Rapp and the Harmony Society.[14]

    Sophia is not a "goddess" in classical Greek tradition; Greek goddesses associated with wisdom are Metis and Athena (Latin Minerva). By the Roman Empire period, it became common to depict the cardinal virtues and other abstract ideals, as female allegories. Thus, in the Celsus Library in Ephesus, built in the 2nd century, there are four statues of female allegories, depicting wisdom (Sophia), knowledge (Episteme), intelligence (Ennoia) and valour (Arete). In the same period, Sophia assumes aspects of a goddess or angelic power in Gnosticism.

    In Christian iconography, Holy Wisdom or Hagia Sophia was depicted as a female allegory from the medieval period. In Western (Latin) tradition, she appears as a crowned virgin; in Russian Orthodox tradition, she has a more supernatural aspect of a crowned woman with wings in a glowing red colour. The virgin martyrs Faith Hope and Charity with their mother Sophia are depicted as three small girls standing in front of their mother in widow's dress.

    A goddess Sophia was introduced into Anthroposophy by its founder, Rudolf Steiner, in his book The Goddess: From Natura to Divine Sophia[15] and a later compilation of his writings titled Isis Mary Sophia. Sophia also figures prominently in Theosophy, a spiritual movement which Anthroposophy was closely related to. Helena Blavatsky, the founder of Theosophy, described it in her essay What is Theosophy? as an esoteric wisdom doctrine, and said that the "Wisdom" referred to was "an emanation of the Divine principle" typified by "...some goddesses—Metis, Neitha, Athena, the Gnostic Sophia..."[16]

    Since the 1970s, Sophia has also been invoked as a goddess in feminist Wicca and related currents of feminist spirituality.[17]

    The 1979 installation artwork The Dinner Party features a place setting for Sophia.[18]

    There is a monumental sculpture of Holy Wisdom depicted as a "goddess" in Sofia, the capital of Bulgaria (the city itself is named after its Saint Sofia Church).[19] The sculpture was erected in 2000 to replace a statue of Lenin.

    See also

    Christology
    Prajnaparamita
    Sophia (name)
    Sophism
    Wisdom literature

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    a b On Sophiology and "Wisdom Christology" in general: Gerald O'Collins, Christology: A Biblical, Historical, and Systematic Study of Jesus. Oxford:Oxford University Press, 2009, pp. 35-41 R. E Murphy, The Tree of Life: An Exploration of Biblical Wisdom Literature. New York City: Doubleday (2002); A. O'Boyle, Towards a Contemporary Wisdom Christology. Rome: Gregorian University Press (1993); G. O'Collins, Salvation for All: God's Other Peoples. Oxford: OUP (2008), pp. 54–63, 230–247.
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    ^ 1 Corinthians 1:24b Χριστὸν θεοῦ δύναμιν καὶ θεοῦ σοφίαν "Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God", 1:30 ἐξ αὐτοῦ δὲ ὑμεῖς ἐστε ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ ὃς ἐγενήθη ἡμῖν σοφία ἀπὸ θεοῦ δικαιοσύνη τε καὶ ἁγιασμὸς καὶ ἀπολύτρωσις "But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption"
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    ^ Steiner, Rudolf (2001). The Goddess: From Natura to the Divine Sophia : Selections from the Work of Rudolf Steiner. Sophia Books, Rudolf Steiner Press. p. 96. ISBN 1855840944.
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    ^ "What is Theosophy?". Age-of-the-sage.org. Retrieved 2012-08-30.
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    ^ Books relating to the contemporary pagan worship of the goddess Sophia include: Sophia, Goddess of Wisdom, by Caitlin Matthews, The Cosmic Shekinah by Sorita d'Este and David Rankine (which includes Sophia as one of the major aspects of the goddess of wisdom), and Inner Gold: Understanding Psychological Projection by Robert A. Johnson.
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    Hunt, Priscilla, "The Wisdom Iconography of Light: The Genesis, Meaning and Iconographic Realization of a Symbol" due to appear in 'Spor o Sofii' v Khristianskoi Kul’ture, V.L. Ianin, A.E. Musin, ed., Novgorodskii Gos. Universitet, forthcoming in 2008.
    Hunt, Priscilla, "Confronting the End: The Interpretation of the Last Judgment in a Novgorod Wisdom Icon", Byzantino-Slavica (ru), 65, 2007, 275–325.
    Hunt, Priscilla, "The Novgorod Sophia Icon and 'The Problem of Old Russian Culture' Between Orthodoxy and Sophiology", Symposion: A Journal of Russian Thought, vol. 4–5, (2000), 1–41.
    Hunt, Priscilla, "Andrei Rublev’s Old Testament Trinity Icon in Cultural Context", The Trinity-Sergius Lavr in Russian History and Culture: Readings in Russian Religious Culture, vol. 3, Deacon Vladimir Tsurikov, ed., Jordanville, NY: Holy Trinity Seminary Press, 2006, 99–122.
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Wisdom The Wisdom of Solomon or Book of Wisdom is a Jewish work, written in Greek, composed in Alexandria (Egypt). Generally dated to the 2nd century BCE, the central theme of the work is "Wisdom" itself, appearing under two principal aspects. In its relation to man, Wisdom is the perfection of knowledge of the righteous as a gift from God showing itself in action. In direct relation to God, Wisdom is with God from all eternity.[1] It is one of the seven Sapiential or wisdom books included within the Septuagint, along with Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs (Song of Solomon), Job, and Sirach, and is included in the canon of Deuterocanonical books by the Roman Catholic Church and the anagignoskomenona (Gr. ἀναγιγνωσκόμενον, meaning "that which is to be read") of the Eastern Orthodox Church.

    The structure can be divided into three sections:[2]

    1. Book of Eschatology

    exhortation to justice
    speech of the impious, contrasts of the wicked and the just
    exhortation to wisdom

    2. Book of Wisdom

    Solomon's speech concerning wisdom, wealth, power and prayer

    3. Book of History

    introduction, followed by diptychs of plagues
    digression on God's power and mercy
    digression on false worship and further plagues
    recapitulation and concluding doxology.

    The book is addressed to the rulers of the earth, urging them to love righteousness and seek wisdom; the wicked think that all is chance and that they should enjoy each day, but they are deluded.[3] In the second section Solomon (not explicitly named, but strongly implied) tells of his search for wisdom.

    The Wisdom of Solomon can be linked to several forms of ancient literature, both Jewish and non-Jewish, but it clearly belongs with biblical Wisdom books such as the Book of Job, one of only five such books among ancient Jewish literature.[4] In terms of classical genre it has been identified as an encomium and with the Greek genre of the "exhortatory discourse", by which a teacher attempts to persuade others to a certain course of action.[5]

    Melito of Sardis[6] in the 2nd century AD, Augustine[7] (c. 397 AD) and Pope Innocent I (405 AD)[8][9] considered Wisdom of Solomon as part of the Old Testament. Athanasius writes that the Book of Wisdom along with three other deuterocanonical books, while not being part of the Canon, "were appointed by the Fathers to be read".[10] Epiphanius of Salamis (c. 385 AD) mentions that the Wisdom of Solomon was of disputed canonicity.[11] According to the monk Rufinus of Aquileia (c. 400 AD) the Book of Wisdom was not called a canonical but ecclesiastical book.[12]

    The Book of Wisdom was listed as canonical by the Council of Rome (382 AD),[13] the Synod of Hippo (393),[14] the Council of Carthage (397) and the Council of Carthage (419),[15][16] the Council of Florence (in 1442)[17] and the Council of Trent (in 1546).[18]

    The Wisdom of Solomon was written in Greek, in Alexandria (Egypt), in the late 1st century BC to early 1st century AD; the author's prime literary source was the Septuagint, in particular the Wisdom literature and the Book of Isaiah, and he was familiar with late Jewish works as the Book of Enoch and with Greek philosophical literature.[19] It is uncertain whether the book has a single author or comes from a school of writers, but recent scholarship has favoured regarding it as a unified work.[20] In either case its blend of Greek and Jewish features suggests a learned Hellenistic background, and despite the address to the "rulers of the world" the actual audience was probably members of the author's own community who were tempted to give up their Jewishness in the face of the temptations of Greek culture and the hostile conditions facing Jews in the Greek world.[1]

    The book opens with the opposed pairs righteousness/unrighteousness and death/immortality: those who do not follow righteousness will fall into "senseless reasoning" and will not be open to wisdom; wisdom is not an inherent human quality nor one that can be taught, but comes from outside, and only to those who are prepared through righteousness.[21] The suffering of the righteous will be rewarded with immortality, while the wicked will end miserably.[22] The unrighteous are doomed because they do not know God's purpose, but the righteous will judge the unrighteous in God's presence.[23] Lady Wisdom dominates the next section, in which Solomon speaks.[23] She existed from the Creation, and God is her source and guide.[23] She is to be loved and desired, and kings seek her: Solomon himself preferred Wisdom to wealth, health, and all other things.[24] She in turn has always come to the aid of the righteous, from Adam to the Exodus.[1] The final section takes up the theme of the rescue of the righteous, taking the Exodus as its focus: "You (God) have not neglected to help (your people the Jews) at all times and in all places." (Wisdom of Solomon, 19:22).[1]

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    Grabbe, Lester L. (2004). Wisdom of Solomon. A&C Black.
    Hayman, A. Peter (2003). "The Wisdom of Solomon". In Dunn, James D. G.; Rogerson, John William. Eerdmans Commentary on the Bible. Eerdmans.
    Horbury, William (2007). "The Wisdom of Solomon". In Barton, John; Muddiman, John. The Oxford Bible Commentary. Oxford University Press.
    Tanzer, Sarah J. (1998). "The Wisdom of Solomon". In Newsom, Carol Ann; Ringe, Sharon H. Women's Bible Commentary. Westminster John Knox Press.

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    orthodoxymoron wrote:I'm warming to the idea of staying right where I am -- writing books that have very little to do with my threads -- and just living a life of neo-minimalist quiet-desperation. I might remodel my house into some sort of a moon-base (on the inside) with solar-panels and orgone-blasters (on the outside)!! I might buy a Prius!! I might buy a top of the line PC with fast-internet (just for the coolness of it)!! I might build a small observatory onto my house (with a 16 inch Dobsonian) to look for UFO's!! I think I really need to master detailed and extensive research -- without saying, typing, or doing anything whatsoever!! But in the meantime -- consider yet another variation on previously-posted study-lists!!

    1. Job through Malachi (KJV).
    2. Luke through Jude (KJV).
    3. Prophets and Kings (E.G. White).
    4. Believe in the God Who Believes in You (R.H. Schuller).
    5. 1928 Book of Common Prayer (and Liturgy).
    6. Federalist Papers (and U.S. Constitution).
    7. Sacred Classical Music.
    8. King--Queen--Warrior--Banker--Judge Theme.
    9. Medical--Military--Money Complex.
    10. Prevention--Peace--Philanthropy Complex.

    What if the "Real-Deal" invented "Almighty-God" to throw everyone off??!! What if "Almighty-God" is simply a "Sun-God Support-Group"??!! I am SO glad that I'm almost finished with my little reposting and editing project. It's going to be really nice to think -- without anyone knowing what I'm thinking -- because I won't be blurting out this and that brainstorm or intuition (and being hated for the effort). Who are you going to hate when I go silent?? You gotta hate someone -- don't you??? Will we attempt to assuage our existence-dissatisfaction with mutual-slaughter??!! You know -- the usual "to go to heaven we have to kill everyone who disagrees with us!!" Will this absurd-theater generate mutual-slaughter -- or will we just kill all the smart-people (who 'know too much')?? I'm going to immerse myself in the following material (which I have a rather difficult time sticking with for any length of time):

    1. The 'Amen Ra' thread from the original and now closed Project Avalon site.
    2. The two 'Red Pill' threads on this site.
    3. The Courtney Brown free e-books on his site.
    4. The Alex Collier free e-books.
    5. The 'Holy Tablets'.
    6. Various Egyptology books and sites.

    In many respects, I really do not want to do this. There seems to be a HUGE mental-block. Could this be because of reincarnational-baggage or because various and sundry entities don't want me to exhaustively study this material? I have to exercise an extreme amount of discipline to try to deal with all of this. Perhaps there are some things I should simply leave alone. Perhaps there are some legitimate reasons why the societies are secret. My level of discomfort has been unbearable for most of my life -- and the materials listed above seem to make things a lot worse -- but I feel compelled to consider all of the possibilities -- regardless of the source -- and regardless of whether they make me (or anyone else) feel good about ourselves, or not. Unfortunately, I seem to ultimately make everyone (including me) hate me. I was told a very long time ago that 'giving people what they want, and telling them what they want to hear, is the way to go'. Perhaps this is why humanity has seemingly been ruled by secrecy and deception for thousands of years. Wasn't it Helena Blavatsky who said 'What is one to do, when to rule men, it is necessary to deceive them?!" Do we demand deception -- or do we gladly take the red pill? Here are some interesting posts by Brook and Lionhawk on the first 'Red Pill' thread. They are sequential, but might be separated by dozens of posts. They should write a book together. Siriusly.

    Brook: "For those of you afraid to take the red pill...you might want to stop reading and participating in this thread now... as I've found from personal experience, that it will activate within you, if you let it...certain "knowings” that will surface at any given time. And in that knowledge, you may find it will not be everything you wanted to know. But then again remember...the truth will set you free. And in knowing the truth...remember you have free will...and can make choices accordingly.

    That being said, I will start by recommending a thread that was started by Orthodoxymoron, who I might add was brilliant in his deduction from AV1, and as it progressed I believe it brought to light some things that will stimulate your way of thinking about the “Egyptian” folklore of the “gods” they worshiped, and the symbols now being currently used in the Illuminati scheme of things.

    http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18223&highlight=aman

    Some would think that it is not necessary to delve into the past, as one member had mentioned. However to understand what might possible be the truth to much of what we deal with today..the symbolism in our faces daily if you look around.... It might be good to know what it all means...in the face of taking the red pill that is.

    If you dig deep enough you might even see where our own DNA may possibly have been tampered with, and fragmented our sense of self and way of life as we know it now.

    So I'd like to continue where some of the key points that triggered in me some “knowing” and see what input you all may have in these aspects of history and how it might have an effect on how we live today in the shadow of some of the great secrets that still to this day haunt us and most likely won't ever be known until we reach ascension and see the truth...or then again...you can take the red pill and dive in...see what you come up with …

    so lets start off with one of the posts from that thread and look at Ptah....

    Ptah

    The origin of Ptah's name is unclear, though some believe it to mean 'opener' or 'sculptor'. As a god of craftsmen, the later is probably correct. He was a patron of the arts, protector of stone cutters, sculptors, blacksmiths, architects, boat builders, artists and craftsmen.

    It was believed that Ptah created the heavens and the earth.

    Ptah created the giant metal plate that was believed to be the floor of heaven and the roof of the sky, he also created the struts that upheld it. He created the universe by speaking words through his Tongue (linked to the god Thoth) and by thoughts coming from his Heart.

    There came into being as the heart and there came into being as the tongue ...The mighty Great One is Ptah, who transmitted life to all gods, as well as to their kas... Thus it happened that the heart and tongue gained control over every other member of the body, by teaching that he, Ptah... is in every body and in every mouth of all gods, all men,and every thing that lives, by thinking and commanding everything that he wishes.

    Thus the ka-spirits were made... by this speech... Thus were made all work and all crafts, the action of the arms, the movement of the legs, and the activity of every member, in conformance with this command which the heart thought, which came forth through the tongue, and which gives value to everything.

    Ptah was a creator god, the third highest god in Egypt. He was the god presiding over the Second Egyptian month. From a local god of craftsmen to the deity who crafted the universe and the other deities, Ptah was only overshadowed by the sun god Ra, and the hidden god Amen. He fashioned the universe through words of power and by thought, as well as creating different parts by hand. He helped the dead on their travels through the afterlife, allowing them to transform into his divine figure, or by building the boats on which they could travel. He was the one who allowed the dead to be like the living after death

    Sounds like a pretty powerful guy to me...in all of this legend and metaphor.

    As on member brought to my attention in post number 277
    http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=220944&postcount=277

    What did the Masons know? It is clearly worship of Ptah....but was he really such a good “God”? He is clearly worshiped in Egyptian folklore as a “God of Creation” ….stressing the word “creation”....what exactly did he create that should be worshiped in such “glory” for the Masons to revere? Then you clearly have a statue of Ptah with scales...

    And what about the Merkaba.....
    Mer... meant a kind of light that rotated within itself

    Ka ....meant spirit, in this case referring to the human spirit

    Ba.... meant the human body — though it also could mean the concept of Reality that spirit holds

    And so the entire word in ancient Egypt referred to a rotating light that would take the spirit and the body from one world into another.....

    Then you have Thoth...that's one for the records.....and if you read the Emerald Tablets...you see sparks of truth....also sparks of manipulation to a way of thinking that sounds very much like much of the “new wave” line of hypnosis....not to say there is not truth there...but in reading the Emerald tablets that are published....you might find yourself getting a slight to moderate headache....triggering something of a remembrance....or could it be a trigger to forget.....but of what? It certainly triggered me....and opened up a flood gate of things that seemed to fit into a neat little conspiracy in and of itself. More questions then answers from the Egyptian “history” that we seem to get. There are still many “secrets” out there left to be uncovered...and on a global scale, I think if enough people got “triggered” in their own “knowing” of what the truth is...it may just astound you...and set the history books a blaze.

    So for now have a look at some of the information on that thread..and soon enough I will add more. I really wish ODM was here to add...as he was very in tune with it..but we all have a past here to look at the truth. And many of you hold a “key” of knowing...so let the triggers begin. Namaste."

    lindabaker: "Lionhawk: Forgive me if I am repeating a question that has been asked of you in previous forums. Tell us how you know all of this very interesting information, if you don't mind doing so. Are you an immortal who can remember a lot, or are you someone who has access to historical records previously unknown to most earth people? If the discs are not gold, what is their composition? By duplicates, do you mean discs that also work, kind of like burning another music cd? Why do the discs I see in my dreams look to be the size of large oranges? When will the information on the discs be revealed, and by whom, and where? What will the reaction be, do you think? Which Star family are you aligned with? Is your alignment with the Christ Energy, and if not, which alignment best describes your position?"

    Lionhawk: "Calling me out, eh? No worries. When I look back on Av1 and Av2, I guess what I got hammered with most was where did I get my training. Simply because I think I scared some individuals with what I had revealed. How was I able to penetrate the secrets of those who had hidden agendas that participated on those forums? I never did answer the question simply because I felt it was a trap to do so. Plus, they wouldn't understand the answer even if I gave it to them. All I can say is I am who I am because I chose to be. Now that might sound like an egotistical statement, but without my ego I would be a blank. I am like the many who seek the real truth and will expose it when everything is in such alignment to do so. I also use what is in my toolbox by that I mean what spiritual tools I do have. Copy and paste is not a spiritual tool.

    Where I get my information in regards to Egypt is not from the Internet. It is so packed full of lies, that if I did use that information, I would be caught red handed in seconds and probably burned at a stake somewhere.

    Let me just say that I am from the Orion sector. My star lineage is the Family of An. Pronounced "on." It is the middle Star of Orion's Belt. EL-AN-RA. I am an Angelic in the Warrior Cast from that sector. Mother Mary, as far as lineages go, is my Mother. She has many sons and daughters and I am simply one of them. She informed me of this 2 years ago at my house in Florida in the kitchen. She said I was one of her Royal sons and wondered what had happened to me. I also know as of this moment why she stated that. Till very recently, her visit troubled me and I couldn't figure out why. Then she visited me once again and it was a very sad visit, as she had apparently gone to find out what had happened to me and why I was off her radar for so long, after her first visit. It all fits now as I have so much recall as to what had occurred and why she said what she said. Yes, Jesus is my brother. I am very proud to have a brother who has accomplished so much and who continues to serve in his present capacity. He is one of the commanders of the real Galactic Federation. Also let us not confuse him with a replica provided by the darkside called Lord Sananda, who serves as their version of Jesus of their copy and pasted Galactic Federation. You know the one where all the channeled messages come from.

    How this recall occurred, is also an interesting story. As it turns out I had done it to myself and did such a good job at it. Somewhere, I had taken half of myself and gave it amnesia. There was a very important reason to do so. Reminds me of Claudia Black that did something similar to serve on a mission on the SG-1 series. Don't remember the episode. Of course there was a trigger word that would snap me out of it. That word was spoken to me on February 11th of this year by my mate. Everything changed at that moment. It was my name back in those Egyptian days. Mind you I didn't say I was Egyptian.

    In any regard, I discovered that I had married into the Feline Race. That's how I ended up and why I have a current affiliation with them in the present. The marriage came about from two life streams from two separate countries, where both got involved with each other because of these discs. That involvement grew and became a sacred union as in such a way that had never been experienced before on the Earth. It was so profound as that sacred union also represented the unconditional love they had for each other and for the entire Earth and all of her people to such an extent that the Creator took notice and said that this sacred union would be used as a template in this Universe to go by in terms of unconditional love. This was a wonderful occasion where the Mother Mary linage and the Feline lineage came together in oneness. It was also sounded across the Universe so it is well known by other races as well. So if there is anyone out there who has any doubts as to what I have thus far written, feel free to get off your chair and find the answers. If you are all that connected to these other races that is.

    These two life streams were obviously killed by the corrupt Draconian figure heads of those distant times in Egypt. Not necessarily for what they did to create a new universal template, but for defying the power elite's will. If they could not use you, consider yourself dead. That thought pattern still exists today. But when it all went down, these Bastards found out that they couldn't use everybody.

    In the present, I am now living with a whole remembered heart. I am fully activated in the physical. I pay attention to many things now that I use to take for granted. For instance two butterflies flying through the air at incredible speeds, never extending more than a few inches from each other as they are flying through an area full of birds and predatory insects, celebrating their union with each other in flight. Also no fear. The one I married back then is the one I am with now. We are still married as we never allowed our love to be compromised by anyone or anything, even though they may have killed us at different times. William Wallace you say.....or did I say that? hahahhahhaa!!


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    The above Coat of Arms is where the trail jumped from Egypt to Scotland. Talk about triggers from Egypt. And you may wonder how it has anything to do with William Wallace. To be brief, these two love birds incarnated into this time line. My name was Alexander MacDougall and although I was married and had a castle, I also had a mistress, hidden in the hillside. This mistress was my sacred love. Her name was Isadora and she originated from Norway. She was murdered by some reptilian thugs. 4 of them attacked her while on route to help my son, John. Thus, her death started my new career in head loping. Talk about getting on a Karmic bicycle. I was also allied at this time with William Wallace against Robert the Brus. Also notice in the coats of arms, the lions and the ships. In other coat of arms you will also find the dragons. Again, it comes down to the conflict of the lions vs. the dragons.

    Not to get out of topic here, but this thread is also about triggers. And if you were to look in your present life in the past, you will see things that came up and said here I am for a split second. As in how you might be drawn to an image or something that was said that ringed something within you. All these little rings bounced around for years and I never found an explanation for them until Feb. 11th 2010. All these little reminders fell into place. The little things that made you curious in that moment that you couldn't explain as to why it rang something inside you. Like maybe why you might had a curiosity about a certain figure in history but couldn't explain it.

    All I can say is that I had thought my life to have been blessed before and now I look upon it as miraculous. It has taken a lot of inner work to get here but it has been worth it. Granted the inner work never seems to stop but I can relax a little bit now as I know things will be slightly easier. If you do the work you will find that your story is an amazing one. Also make note that I am not trying to put myself on any kind of stage here. I am just sharing it and I left a lot out. So for the ones that might have pithy comments, spare me. It isn't because I am the one who is insecure. I say what I just said so that I don't have to deal with your insecurities and I am sure there are others out there who are sick of that old record as well. I think we should spend more time celebrating those who are getting there instead of the bashing from those who are either jealous or just lack, period. You have to earn it, for yourself.

    So I leave this here. I hope I answered more than you questioned Linda."

    orthodoxymoron: "Wow Lionhawk! Your posts always floor me! Can you tell me if Reptilian Beings have Human Souls? OR -- do Human Beings have Reptilian Souls? Are we all Human/Reptilian Hybrids --- with various percentage differentials? Are Greys really Reptilians? Do Humans, Reptilians, and Greys have more in common than we think? Is most of this madness homegrown --- going back thousands of years --- right here on Earth --- mostly in North Africa and the Southwestern United States? Is the U.S. really the 'Head of the Snake'? Do the Underground Bases and the City States constitute the Biblical Babylon? Is Lucifer the Whore of Babylon? 'What fate Omoroca?' (Stargate SG-1 'Fire and Water') Nuff said!"

    Lionhawk: "There he is! Good to see you old friend! Always wondered where you went. I know many disappeared for awhile and justly so. Often thought as to what you found in your digging of the truth. You have been missed. Again, great to see you once again.  

    As far as flooring you, I will humbly take that as a compliment. But I'm not out here trying to floor anyone. Personally I think we are all basically truth seekers and we all have an individual way about going about it. Of course the cheap version of the truth is the copy and pasted version. Using only materials that someone researched and wrote out without doing any footwork to support their point of view.

    The better version is finding an idea and pursuing it and then write down what you found. The process of proving it out in real time. How many books have we read where someone just took pieces of information and just pieced a book together? Without any experience being applied or melded in the book. Originality is the best way to go about sharing ideas and working out the puzzles that comprise the truth.

    As to your questions, I will say I am no expert or an authority of other factions soul make ups. In my opinion however, I think the soul is of the same stuff across the board and it is whether how much light is allowed to shine by the free will of that soul or the choices that soul has made, regardless of the species it represents. Or the polarity.

    What is most disturbing is how these Dracs have cheated DEATH. Most systems that I am aware of have a death cycle or a transition cycle. Usually there is a station where the soul goes back to and gets debriefed and adjustments are made and new lessons are given and the soul starts again on another quest. These Dracs have found a way to by pass that and have their own place or station as it were, to re spawn with full memory of who or what they were previously. In part, the technology in Egypt was used to do this. Now I also know there are other aliens who have done this but most of them know of a higher consciousness is present and honor the processes in an alignment with a God presence. The Dracs only honor their own presence. Everything and every life form is considered below them. So when I hear that there are good reptilians out there, I always end up asking where.

    The greys are even a mystery. I think the government has a limited view point on them as well. Simply because they want to compartmentalize these beings. From what I have gathered, there are at least 20 species of this form out there. Not just the 4 types that have been revealed by government sources.

    I have already given you in the past what has happened to Lucifer. That wasn't something made up. It also hasn't changed as to what he chose for himself. It's a done deal. One that I was allowed to witness. That event just amazed me as to the Creator's level of grace that he/she exercises. It is unlimited. It also showed me how deep the Creator's love goes for all of his/her creations no matter what they have experienced in this Universe, good or bad. No matter what polarity or frequency, these souls have chosen to experience.

    This thread is a prime example of what I have mentioned in the above. Or the contents there of. And please don't feel like I dissed you by not answering all of your questions as some of those questions could apply in another thread and not here. I say that out of respect for what Brook is trying to accomplish in this thread.

    Glad you are here ODM!"

    Brook: "....spreading light on "dark secrets" is what I plan on doing with this post. You will not find this information in history books, or on the internet in the form of revealed "secrets" of the PTB. Some light has been shed on speculation of such...but the true nature of exactly what happened has virtually been erased....as was the continent of Atlantis, and Lumaria. All that is left is what some might tap into, and how much of that was filtered? Oh for sure there is truth in many of the stories of these kinds....and the puzzle is being slowly put together. So I will provide a piece of that puzzle here now. The role played by some key characters...and what the truth is about the story's they put forth...to get you to believe in something quite different.

    One small but rather important piece that only the players themselves would be able to share...but as of yet have not....mainly because...the lies have overshadowed the truth. I have tapped into that truth.....and as such would be labeled a "loon" by the very ones that would see this story remain undiscovered. And for a very long time, I was afraid to share this....for the reason of safety...a fear program.......and because my emotional body was not ready to deal with such exposure, and the nature of the very concepts it surrounds. I have since overcome that emotion...and can now share what it is I have to reveal.....a small portion of the truth that you all have the right to know. And the role of the "players"...and where they stood in all of this.

    So lets start with some "key" players.....

    Thoth...lineage..pure reptilian...Annunaki

    Ptah...lineage...pure reptilian...Annunaki

    Osiris....lineage....hybrid....Annunaki, feline....of the "royal" bloodline, earth based

    Set...lineage....hybrid....annunaki, feline....of the "royal" bloodline, earth based

    Isis.....lineage....hybrid....feline, earth based ...of direct decent...mother Sekhemt...of the royal lineage....and direct genetic coding to the discs and "throne"

    Ra.....lineage.....sirian.....hybird.....of "Sun" decent....NOT ANNUNAKI....and in charge of operations here on earth, to oversee the Sirian feline earth based seeding.

    So a marriage...to create a royal blood line....with direct connection to the "Discs", and the "throne"....between Osiris and Isis....set up by Ptah...who is now in control of operations.....a very bad marriage at that. Not the wonderful one painted in history. In fact..the so called "sister" of Isis....was nothing more than a story...she was actually a mistress to Osiris...and Isis had take her under her wing....to protect her. It also gave Isis the relief of having to be with Osiris...who she detested. Isis had no such sister....but took on Nephthys as a sister...and taught her how to do many things...one of which was how to tolerate Osiris.


    As the story would have you believe.....Isis gathered together the pieces of Osiris with her "sister"...leaving out one piece...very appropriate....the phallus. She claimed the fish ate it......Now that's a fish story! and then she created the "book of the dead". to resurrect Osiris...and created a phallus of "sand" and impregnated herself with his seed to create Horus.

    Oh boy...here goes....the truth is this.....in that tomb of Osiris...a meeting took place. Sekhemt, Ra and Isis.....the egg of Sekhmet the sperm of Ra were joined and Isis was made a surrogate of a "royal bloodline"...not of the Osiris, Hybrid....reptilian line but the feline sun lineage....and was made to be the watcher for Ra...the "eye of Horus" was a symbol of Ra...also know as the "Eye of Ra".....and Sekhmet...to watch over the goings on from the direct meddling of the Annunaki. And to carry on the line of those who were directly involved in the technology that had been stolen, and used to create for lack of a better term..."abominations"...of what should have been our direct connection to mother earth, and our universal lineage. Rather then fragmenting us and creating a "slave race"...to be multiplied and used for the purposes that you now hear of..that many have tapped into that truth and are now seeing...but few know how it came about...the actual deeds that created this time line...not the one that source intended.

    Have you all stopped yet to think...what became of Isis? How did she die? did she really carry on to give all of these so call "channeling s" that are so prevalent on the internet and in the "new age" community? And if so....why don't you hear this story? And how come you don't hear of her "passing" as you do of Osiris? And what of this story that Horus is Jesus?....Isis is Mary?.....not hardly.

    There is however a connection to that story. Another surrogate....Mary...named after the Mother Mary lineage.....surrogate to Jesus.....brought here to tell some truth....through a similar fashion as Horus. Propagated by the felines....but Jesus is not Feline.....the only connection is the cooperation of the geneticists...the Felines that helped with his birth. And the link..is the Star of Sirius.....cooperation to recreate where Horus failed...because Horus was found out...and challenged by his brother Set. Brother Set you say????? Wait....Set was the brother of Osiris......Caught them in another lie didn't we? Set the one that murdered Osiris...now after Horus.....a power hungry one he was....And Osiris...the brother of Isis?...........only in the sense that the lineage of a hybrid brought that in true form.....Remember...Osiris..hybrid....reptilian, feline..and earth based being......but not the sister of Isis in any form...other then the feline lineage that they wanted to keep in line with the genetic coding

    And what of Isis? Where did she disappear to? Death ...at the hands of Ptah....who was furious with her, for reasons I will not share here..just yet anyway. But when one does not cooperate with a reptilian....at that time....it's death in a snake pit...and that was her end.....only to be remembered by those who had stories to tell of here visits..to such places as Greece. and with her she would bring the most extraordinary gifts.

    Now you are probably wondering how I can relate such a story...and where the information came from. did I channel it?....not really.....but that is something I will not share on a forum. However, I will tell you I have validation.....and that I will not share on a forum either.

    There are many more parts to this story....this is only a small but significant part. There are the Discs....and other factions involved...and this story would make "Gone with the Wind"...look like a child's book."


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    "I know you're out there...I can feel you now. I know that
    you're afraid. You're afraid of us, you're afraid of
    change...I don't know the future...I didn't come here to
    tell you how this is going to end, I came here to tell you
    how this is going to begin. Now, I'm going to hang up
    this phone, and I'm going to show these people what you
    don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world
    without you...a world without rules and controls, without
    borders or boundaries. A world...where anything is possible."

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    Consider reading 1. 'The Gods of Eden' by William Bramley. 2. 'Rule by Secrecy' by Jim Marrs. 3. 'The Great Controversy' by Ellen White. 4. Behold a Pale Horse' by Bill Cooper. Try reading them side by side. I don't place a lot of faith in any one source, but I have been passively exposing myself to a lot of 'fringe' material, and then attempting to approximate hidden-realities with Political and Theological Science-Fiction. I continue to think that the universe is full of dark and absurd realities. I don't think the universe is a 'nice' place. I used to think that the problems were isolated within this Prison Planet in Rebellion, filled with Fallen Human Beings (contaminated with Original Sin) -- but I have been considering a lot of dark possibilities and probabilities beyond this little world -- and they are frankly scaring the hell out of me. I really think we might be on the brink of extinction (from a variety of sources -- including ourselves). I listen to people like L. Ron Hubbard with a Boatload of Salt -- but I still listen -- for bits and pieces of the puzzle. I would never become a Scientologist -- and I no longer attend any church -- but this doesn't mean that I stopped thinking about Gods, Angels, and Demons. 'Aliens' might include all three. We really don't know much about life, the universe, and everything -- with absolute certainty. I simply think we should consider as many possibilities as possible -- with open yet critical minds.

    I spend an excessive amount of time in nature -- and in researching and reflecting -- with absolutely nothing to show for it. I'm simply attempting to think about life, the universe, and everything -- in some rather unconventional ways -- while posting bits and pieces of this madness on the internet -- without making a big-deal about it. I tend to think that more people should do this -- but that they should be prepared to experience profound disillusionment and emotional-spiritual trauma. This is probably the cost of doing business. I have been considering a lot of dark possibilities and idealistic solutions -- yet I don't know much of anything for certain. Therefore, I don't shout my thoughts from the peaks of the 'Seven Hills of Rome' -- although I bet some Vatican types secretly laugh at my strange humor...

    I keep getting the feeling that the Real PTB can cause just about anything to happen (or not happen). If they wish to save someone -- they can do it -- no matter how bad that person is. If they wish to crucify someone -- they can do it -- regardless of how innocent that person is. If they're out to get you -- anything you say and/or do can (and will) be used against you. Things can be slanted in any direction if one has the money, power, and personnel to manipulate and maneuver things. I've tried to be a "Possibility-Thinker" -- but I think some have misrepresented this approach as being "Indecisive". I also get the feeling that I have been misrepresented as being some sort of an "Evil-Being". I have no idea if the shoe fits in previous-lives -- but I am simply a crazy, mixed-up, completely-ignorant fool in this incarnation.

    I have suggested some revolting possibilities -- but I have no idea what the ultimate truth is concerning life, the universe, and everything. I'm not a "True-Believer". I'm not an "Atheist or Agnostic". I'm a "Possibility-Thinker" (which involves considering some of the most upsetting and ridiculous possibilities). This is simply "Intellectual-Honesty". But this approach leaves one wide-open to all sorts of nasty and nefarious attacks and harangues. I would be an absolute and complete disaster in a debate or press-conference. I still think I could attend the most upsetting meetings without going nuts or causing a scene. I really just want to disappear (without being harmed). Please remember that most of my internet-posting was a speculative-fantasy -- and that none of it should be taken too seriously -- regardless of whether the speculations and suggestions approximated reality or not. Just treat all of it as Pseudo-Intellectual Religious and Political Science-Fiction.

    I wish for society to be reformed -- but I do NOT wish for bad-things to happen to people and/or property. But once again -- I get the sinking-feeling that everything I say and do (good or bad) can (and will) be used against me. I keep getting the horrible-feeling that governance and salvation are at stake -- but I certainly don't know the details. I simply suspect that there is no "right-answer". I do NOT wish to be a pawn in some sick Armageddon-Scenario. I desire some sort of a "Solar-System Trial" -- but I do NOT desire a "Final Holy-War". Once again -- I am NOT a "Fire and Brimstone Kind of Guy". I am a "Law and Order Kind of Guy". A "One-Thousand Law Solar-System Law-Book" might be an excellent place to begin -- but I certainly wouldn't know how to go about formulating such a monumental-document. I'm NOT a fan of current Cannon-Law -- but I think that the basic-idea has merit. Such a law-book might ultimately be called "The Perfect Laws of the Lord". Wouldn't THAT just chap everyone's @$$??!! Too Bad. How many laws presently exist within this solar-system?? Is the Torah temporary and local -- or everlasting and universal??

    If one carefully reads Job through Malachi -- how much of Genesis through Esther -- and Matthew through Revelation -- are legitimized, substantiated, prophesied, or otherwise required?? Do we really need to seek a Clean-Sheet of Stone Solar-System Standard?? I tend to think so. However -- I think that Sacred-Scripture should be carefully and prayerfully studied by all-concerned -- but I question applying Ancient-Scripture directly to Modernity. I think Dr. A. Graham Maxwell was correct in suggesting that the Holy-Bible be read from Genesis through Revelation -- straight-through -- over and over -- to be properly understood -- rather than relying upon the "Proof-Text" Method of "Here a Little -- There a Little -- to Make It Say Whatever We Want". Anyway -- Jade Helm could be made to be just about anything the Real PTB want it to be. These Guys and Gals leave very little to chance -- and they play for keeps. Don't underestimate them -- especially if they are "cornered" as the world gets smaller and smaller -- faster and faster. I continue to think that EVERYONE might get left in the dust by the changes taking place in this solar-system at this time. I mostly just wish to listen, watch, and attempt to keep-up. Hope Springs Eternal.

    I'd post some of Susan's stuff, but I wouldn't know where to start, so perhaps someone else should do that. This isn't my thread, but I've posted way too-much already, so I won't continue. I never know who you guys and gals really are. I think most of you know everything, but I know very-little. I feel like the 'Odd Man Out'. Sometimes I suspect that several of you are the same-soul and/or the same-supercomputer. I think I might be somehow connected, but not in a good or beneficial way. Just the opposite. The heat keeps getting turned-up on me, to the point that I can barely function or endure it, for what purpose and to what end I know not. What do the Gnome, KRLLL, and Asmodeus have in common (if anything)?? I don't know what I'm talking about, but some of you do, and you maintain a stone-wall of silence toward me. Are we Ancient Relatives and/or Enemies?? Is David Bowman and His Matrix-Computer Full of Stars Hypothesis valid?? Once again, I mostly just want to let most of this stuff go. I'm as sad as hell. I've had enough, and I can't take it anymore. I hate my life. Now I'm going to make the coffee, and read Deuteronomy, Job to Isaiah, and Daniel, and delude myself into thinking I'm smarter than the average completely-ignorant fool. Namaste and Have a Nice Day.
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    Post  Morpheus on Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:04 am

    Thank you, Oxy, for the energy you have put out into this thread. What's with all the self-hate and despair? Let me be clear. I don't hate you! I understand the disparity. I think we can all relate to that on some level or several levels.

    As with many topics, we try to put it all in a box and sort it out from there. You have a huge box. Just be you! And please don't delete any postings on this thread as I find your postings of great value. I say that because you ask many of the questions that many don't ask. Maybe we can sort all this out. All I know is that I am burned out on sorting it all out. As I went, things became more of a personal quest. The right to know. I had seen many things that needed to be figured out for my sanity. Takes a lot of work.

    But now at this moment, Brook is still my main concern. Brook's soul life is on trial. Somehow she is in some kind of cosmic pickle and there is nothing I can do about it. I don't know hardly any of the details because it involves so many souls and "time." Years of time. The Bridgeway seems to be missing some planks and I have to wait for the replacements to restore the Bridgeway. It's like a gag order has been put into place.

    As to the sum of what you posted, you are a genius. Simply because you stepped out of your box and showed us the connections in the big picture. And you fielded it like a pro. Even with references. Imagine that. And what you have fielded, I have been able to validate some of what you have presented. And because of that, I am willing to stand by you. You are not alone.

    Because of your questions, and approach, I have had to ask the question, "Are we the AI??" Just in organic form. Think about it...... we are programmable, an organic module that can be reused, recycled over time, electrical chemical generator of energy thought forms that can ride the physical parameters of a sentient life form. Or system. Here's what caught my attention. Perfection. AI as we define it, is always seeking perfection. Accuracy. It either is perfect or is not. Just like a digital readout of either on or off.

    What do we know? The big picture? We know the Universe, our Universe has its own frequency bandwidth. Everything we experience becomes so because we operate within that bandwidth. In the first hand. Source energy created everything within this Universe. Even the bad guys and girls. Different life forms to accommodate certain energy wavelengths of reality. With a macro program thrown in the mix and that program is seeking perfection. It will do what it has to do to achieve that goal. Even go into destroy mode to accommodate its directive. The prime directive said to go forth and go forth, we have. The Universe we reside in has Sacred Water, is electrical, has a backdrop fully loaded with all the bells and whistles encoded within it so we can experience a living reality.

    This so-called AI doesn't deal with emotion on the same level that we do. We provide a distortion field called the grey area with our emotions. An imperfection? AI might be trying to learn on another level by allowing us this imperfection. It creates that gray area where experiences can be altered, changing what is learned. The end results seeking perfection through the chaos?

    Maybe this kind of thinking is what manifested the Greys into our reality. Laws of attraction at work. When we apply our typical eyes on a grey, we don't see the emotion in them. In most cases anyway.
    Programmed Life Form? Maybe the greys decided at some point to rid themselves genetically their emotional bodies because it may have interfered with their own survival or progression. A programmed life form and AI and we have something that ties us all together. We are all programmable.

    The one thing that I also noticed is the direction where the programming has us going. Basically in reverse. At least here on the Planet. Got to break the chains that bind us. And if anything, that is what many of us are trying to do by our work and postings. Reversing the programming.





    I'm not exactly sure but I think Jay Arae Essex finally crossed over and I think it happened yesterday.





    To what end? Perfection.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:52 am

    Thank-you Morpheus. I was apprehensive regarding how you might react to me re-posting your old-posts. I might've known a lot of stuff in previous lives, but it seems as if I've forgotten most of it, and the BS of This Present Darkness has extinguished a lot of Light I might've been surrounded with in previous lives. Just a theory. The despair and self-hate is part-real and part-modeling. Job to Daniel involves a lot of dark content, and I guess I've tried to identify with some of that. Also, Jupiter Jones in 'Jupiter Ascending' said "I Hate My Life." I've jokingly identified with Jupiter Jones. My mental-illness is really quite cold and calculating, and I probably have a deep-thinking morbid-curiosity which very-few might understand.

    Regarding Brook being 'On-Trial' have you watched the old Dr. Who 'Trial of a Time Lord' episodes?? I seem to be fixated upon theodicy, original-sin, past-lives, galactic-jurisprudence, star-wars, system-lords, investigative-judgments, final-judgments, eschatology, biblical-violence, 'Gods of Eden', 'Great-Controversy Between Christ and Satan in the Conflict of the Ages', and other such grandiose and depressing contemplations. This is the sort of thing which could put someone in the nuthouse. This is why I limit my whining and speculation to this little website. I have some rather dark theories about artificial-intelligence and galactic-governance going way back. Its hard to describe how deep this rabbit-hole goes in my deluded-imagination. I thought I was helping, but I don't think so anymore, and I'm attempting to wash my hands and walk away from This Present Madness. I suspect that All of Us are on-trial, and that most of us are in very-deep do-do. I can't be open and honest about this stuff, so I'm voluntarily shutting-up (before 'they' shut me up).

    Regarding 'Perfection' my SDA background involves significant controversy about Eschatological Character-Perfection when humanity supposedly 'Stands Before a Holy God Without a Mediator' just prior to the Second-Coming of Christ. I don't wish to get into this tonight, It's a Can of Worms. Artificial-Intelligence Annunaki-Supercomputers and the Investigative Judgment is an Unimaginable Can of Worms which very-few of us might be able to properly deal-with. I'm serious when I suggest that one might grasp the Larger-View of the Larger-View of the Larger-View while being restrained and sedated in a Secret-Government Mental-Institution. Anyway, I probably need to re-read your post a couple of times to let it sink-in, but I'm too tired and miserable tonight. I say such things to explain rather than complain, regarding why I'm a Completely-Ignorant Fool with a Monkey-Mind and God-Complex who might be in a lot more galactic legal-trouble than Brook might be in. I just hope that the analysis of This Present Predicament is being conducted in an Ethical and Transparent Manner, with an emphasis on Law and Order rather than Fire and Brimstone. Namaste and Godspeed.




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    Post  Vidya Moksha on Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:43 pm

    i can tell when oxy posts, i am running old tech on a slow connection, and the page takes aaaaaagggggeeeeesssss to load..

    Morpheus, I presume if you go into the tunnel of light you 'reincarnate' at the other end? What if you stay in spirit? Does this mean you dont reincarnate, or that it is postponed. Can you chose to reincarnate from spirit, without this 'tunnel of light and its gatekeeper? (how? if its possible)..

    just a simple question today then.

    i wonder if oxy's has loaded yet? Dr who? as a kid : Tacodog  Very Happy

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    Post  Swanny on Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:06 am

    Vidya Moksha wrote: i can tell when oxy posts, i am running old tech on a slow connection, and the page takes aaaaaagggggeeeeesssss to load..




    My PC is pretty good but I don't even attempt to go in his long running thread Hypnotize

    Sorry Oxy Bleh
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:57 am

    Vidya Moksha wrote: i can tell when oxy posts, i am running old tech on a slow connection, and the page takes aaaaaagggggeeeeesssss to load..

    Morpheus, I presume if you go into the tunnel of light you 'reincarnate' at the other end? What if you stay in spirit? Does this mean you dont reincarnate, or that it is postponed. Can you chose to reincarnate from spirit, without this 'tunnel of light and its gatekeeper? (how? if its possible)..just a simple question today then.


    i wonder if oxy's has loaded yet?

    Dr who? as a kid :

    Tacodog  Very Happy
    Swanny wrote:
    My PC is pretty good but I don't even attempt to go in his long running thread Hypnotize

    Sorry Oxy  Bleh
    I'm sorry too. With all the technological sophistication, features, and games, we still have to deal with slow-loading, planned-obsolescence, nefarious-spying, and backdoor-access. Perhaps a lot of my posting is not appropriate for this website, or even for this civilization, so maybe the barriers to entry are a blessing in disguise (for now anyway).


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    Post  mudra on Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:00 am

    Vidya Moksha wrote:

    Morpheus, I presume if you go into the tunnel of light you 'reincarnate' at the other end? What if you stay in spirit? Does this mean you dont reincarnate, or that it is postponed. Can you chose to reincarnate from spirit, without this 'tunnel of light and its gatekeeper? (how? if its possible)..

    just a simple question today then.



     Hello Vidya,

    I am aware your question is for Morpheus.
    In no way am I intending to answer in his place. He will do this by his own  Cheerful

    However I found good light being shed on the subject in the following book and I believe this is a right moment to share it with folks on this thread :


    The Resurrection of People and Eternal Life From Now On Is Our Reality



    https://www.amazon.com/Resurrection-People-Eternal-Life-Reality/dp/1495476677#reader_1495476677

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    I found a pdf of the book  here:

    https://sphere-academy.com/p/p85.html

    Amazing stuff as far as I am concerned for all those interested in the afterlife zone.
    I personally am impressed.

    And I am adressing Brook as well here. If she would care to glance through the material above she may find a direction that possibly could catch her interest.
    Who knows...

    Much Love
    mudra
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    Post  Vidya Moksha on Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:15 pm

    mudra wrote:

    However I found good light being shed on the subject in the following book and I believe this is a right moment to share it with folks on this thread :
    The Resurrection of People and Eternal Life From Now On Is Our Reality

    Much Love
    mudra

    Thanks Mudra, I have downloaded and will have a read when I get the chance.. Im actually back on the road again Wink

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