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Aquaries1111 wrote:Thanks for the link Oxy...

As far as my own "order" I was not brought up with a religion... My grandmother however was a Jehovah's Witness and as a very young teenager I would attend her bibical seminars.. the main one in particular took place in Edinburgh and when the passing of the wine was coming forth my Grandmother said to me "do not drink the wine"... well of course since that day I had my radars up.. No I did not drink the wine though I wanted to.. does this make me one of the 144,000 lol... No of course not.. I am always myself becoming...

Aquaries1111 wrote:I really think you need to stop torturing yourself... Guess what Oxy, this may disturb you... I have been in "training" on "how to die"....  Yep... I want to die consciously in tact... forget what you think you know.. decide upon how you will die.. and set with yourself your agreements in the death department.. I do not intend to come across as morbid but this is the key here... Not to get stuck in answers per se but to consciously prepare ourselves how we will die... Simple.. we all will do it one day.. who is prepared and who is not?

Aquaries1111 wrote:WHAT ARE WE TO DO WITH THIS "JESUS CHRIST"? MY THOUGHTS ON JESUS AFTER 20 YEARS OF STUDY.

Greetings and welcome to Bet Emet Ministries. My name is Craig Lyons and I am at present a "resigned" Pastor of the Christian faith. There are many reasons for this resignation from the Christian Ministry in my life following Seminary and eight years of a very successful ministry and it is to these issues we must turn since you asked either to be added to the teaching ministry of Bet Emet Ministries or are a reader of one of many of our ministry's websites. So often when surfing the Internet people find one of our Websites and get confused when beginning in the "middle" so to speak in the study of the "Jesus Story". Bet Emet's Websites are intended to be a "Spiritual Pilgrimage" in ones study of "the Christ"; moving from the assumed Historical Jesus Christ to the Mystical Jesus Christ and finally to the Mythical Jesus Christ. Answer for yourself: What can I expect to learn if I study through and read through this Website on Astrotheology as well as study other Websites created by Bet Emet Ministries?

You, the reader, will come to see that there are 3 different "Jesus" that we encounter down through these last 2000 years of recorded history. Only two of them are true; one is false. That is why I decided to create a "summary" of Bet Emet's views on "the Christ" from beginning to end. It will take several articles to do this but I felt this is necessary with our multiple Websites that now exist on the Web and in so doing I plan on prefacing each Website in time with these articles to let the reader know just where he is "jumping in" with his studies of "the Christ" as explained on the Website which he is reading and studying presently.

Needless to say it is not easy to teach the revelation of "the Christ" in only one Website as it has come down to us over these last thousands of years of history beginning with Egypt over 13,000 years ago until the present time in which we live. So we did not even try to do this in just one Website for that was impossible but we did try over these years to lay out the successive progression and evolution of the understanding of ideas concerning "the Christ" down through history. This "Christ" goes by different names in different cultures but few see this until they advance greatly in their studies. It took me a while to see this as well.

The study of "the Christ" reveals that this "Spiritual Concept" began with an Egyptian "Karast" and ended with a Christian "Jesus Christ". The problem for the student is how to interpret this "Jesus Christ" and the "Jesus Story" that we have inherited today and in so doing determine if it has maintained its integrity down through these successive millennia as understood by the Ancients who first gave us these Spiritual Concepts in the first place.
Needless to say it has not.

Being a Pastor and seeing this for myself stirred my heart that I feel motivated to inform others of this deception and this not only led to my resignation from my Pastorate but would further lead to the birth of Bet Emet Ministries where this information could be made available to the concerned students and seekers of truth about the true origins of the Christian Faith. Let me prepare you for what is coming in these 3 summary articles. First of all we must get acquainted with a summary statement of the very core of all 13 of our Websites and their message. Therefore it is necessary for the seeker of truth to understand up front that "the study of the origins of the Christian Faith and the "Jesus Story" is not always easy and untroublesome especially in light of what you often uncover when your studies get rather deep into this area". No truer words have ever been spoken.

I believe with all my heart that since you desire to learn about the Jewish Roots of the Christian Faith and all that entails and or asked to receive our teaching articles and materials then you need to understand completely what you will be shown in the studies that are forthcoming. Bet Emet will PROVE to you beyond any doubt over our websites that as Gentile Christians today we have inherited unknowingly a false faith and a replacement religion that has little in common with the true faith of the earliest "Christians" who followed "the Christ". You will come to see the gigantic difference between Ancient understanding of "the Christ", the "Joshua-Jesus" and the "Jesus Christ" as depicted in our current New Testament in today's Christian Bible. That will become tragically clear as you begin your serious personal study of our sites as you progress from an assumed Historical Jesus Christ to the Mystical Jesus Christ and finally to the Mythical Jesus Christ. The Rabbis teach that "Study is the highest for of worship of God".

I guess the above statement from first century Judaism says it all; namely because there is much to learn, uncover, unlearn, repent of, and accept anew in light of newly acquired factual knowledge from our studies. This hopefully will benefit each seeker of truth to live before God in the light of what he has learned from this newly acquired knowledge that we at Bet Emet share with the reader. This will all become clearer as you read our articles and study our Websites. As I tell everyone due to the challenging nature of what we teach: "Don't believe anything we teach...but let it provoke your own study to find the same things we did over the years of our serious study into the roots of our Christian faith."

We offer a recommended reading list to each concerned student to help direct him in his studies. We also have available all of our Ministry's Websites on one CD to make it easier for one to do these studies. Email us for details.

Over these last 18 years I guess you could say I have studied well near a thousand books or so and have two rooms in my home converted to libraries. Such is the level of my study and desire to arrive at the truth behind the "Jesus Story" and the religious synthesis and "puzzle" portrayed in the New Testament. I have been fortunate enough to have traced down books written in the 1700's in my pursuit of these Ancient truths about the Christian Faith and "the Christ". I wanted to know the truth behind my Christian Faith before I die having been enlightened in Seminary that there were many "problems" under the surface of his "Sunday and Christianity's Orthodoxy". Understand that most readers will be like me having grown up in Christianity since childhood. That being the case we fall prey to the same fallacy; namely, blindly accepting and assuming that our faith, the Christian Faith and the Christian Bible is the only way to God let alone to Heaven. With such conditioning Sunday to Sunday we end up innocently reinforcing prior sermons and teachings concerning the New Testament's depiction of Jesus as a "literal-historical" person never realizing what really lays behind such a depiction. We never have an inkling to study this out for ourselves because for one thing it never dawns upon us that we could be wrong for after all we all have inherited what we assumed to be an "infallible, inspired, inerrant" New Testament. We just assume we have the truth today because our Spiritual Authorities have repeatedly told us that we "are right" while all others are "wrong" and in need of Christian salvation. Until a few years ago few if any Christians every studied the origins of their birth faith to the degree necessary to spot the problems inherent with the "Jesus Story". The Internet today is changing that as well as casual trips to a Barnes and Noble Book Store in your area where you look through the religious sections.

It was during my 3 years in Seminary from 1985-1988, in obtaining my Masters of Divinity degree, that I came first face to face with the irregularities and contradictions within the "Jesus Story". I was shocked to hear what my Pastor never taught me or possibly never knew. Knowing that "God is not the author of confusion" then I had to know who was responsible for this "Swiss cheese" theology. That is what I call it for it fits the problem well. This was the beginning of my life-time quest for truth about God and His "Christ". This hunger for truth would shape the rest of my life and studies and does so up to this very day. Let me say that in my increasing depth of study over time in my pilgrimage of investigation into the "Jesus Story", I, as an Ordained Pastor of a mega-church in Dallas, Texas, experienced the full gamut of emotions possible: tears, heartbreak, grief, anguish, anger, indignation, confusion, sadness, depression, etc. It was only with great courage and continued study on my part through this dark past of Christianity and its distortion of Ancient History and Ancient Religious Antiquity did I eventually come to the joy of my salvation which only came when I discovered the beauty and truth of Biblical Judaism and it strong historical links with the first Monotheistic nation in this world; namely, Ancient Egypt.

Having graduated Seminary and realizing that I was given nothing to further my understanding of a "Jewish Jesus" while there I set out to discover and restore the Jewish Roots of my Christian Faith. That was my first step. I reasoned that since Seminary had not taught me a "Jewish Jesus" then I would find him on my own. I never dreamed the shock that would be coming my way by such intense study into these areas over the next 5 years. I began a serious study of Biblical Judaism that lasted about 4-5 years and in so doing found that such study presented me with multiple roads for later study that led elsewhere and these were, due to time restraints, allotted to a future day for their consideration and investigation as time restraints in a full-time Ministry would permit. As the years passed I finally found the necessary time to travel these roads of enlightenment and in was in these other vistas of study that my eyes were really opened like never before to the deceptions inherent in the "Jesus Story" which I had inherited since childhood.

My almost 20 years of study and discovery has motivated me to develop numerous websites containing the fruit of my research and study that I, as an Ordained Pastor, felt the normative Christian believer should want to know if given the chance. I remember that during my Pastorate I often asked my students: "Do you want to know the truth before you die?" An affirmative answer on my part led me to develop with God's help over these last few years a series of "thematic" studies that found expression in various Websites on the Internet.

My study was a progressive one to say the least, for after all it takes time for a seed to grow and yours will be as well. These websites chronicle for the student the progressive revelation that I received in my studies that led me from an assumed "Historical Jesus" to the "Mystical Christ" and finally to the "Mythical Christ". You might say that there are 3 different understandings of "Jesus Christs", or the Egyptian "Karast", down through recorded History and if you undertake such a personal study you will find that only 2 of them are real and the other the product of a gross deception and a masterful and purposeful misinterpretation of the prior two. More on that as we progress in this article.

BELIEVING IN JESUS?

Like most of those who read my articles I assume that like me you grew up as a Christian or else you would not be interested in Jesus Christ. I grew up as a Christian and that being so was taught to "believe in Jesus." I grew up taught to "believe the New Testament" from start to finish. I entered Seminary with such a background and as a "believer in Jesus". At that time in my life, devoid of any serious scholarly study into the "Jesus Story" or the Bible, I did not have a doubt in the world that my birth faith was not the ultimate truth in the world about the Creator and the Jewish Messiah. Through all the early years of my study following Seminary where I would be challenged to my very core by what I was uncovering in my search for a "Jewish Jesus" and seeing the hidden fruits of my studies I desperately wanted to continue to "believe in Jesus" and find some authentic evidence that would allow me to continue to believe in the "Historical Jesus" as depicted in the New Testament. But all I had was this one book from Rome, the New Testament, and my intense studies into Manuscript Evidences and Canonization of the New Testament was revealing to me that this book, the New Testament, is highly unreliable as a truthful depiction of not only the Jewish Messiah but "the Christ" as well. Purposeful manipulations, purposeful misquotations of the Hebrew Scriptures, purposeful mistranslations of the Hebrew Scriptures, using the Hebrew Scriptures out of context, and outright Scriptural invention of assumed prophecies in the New Testament was revealing to me that my New Testament was a forgery and a fraud. It was not accurate to the prior Hebrew in hundreds of places and few know of this unless they do comparative studies between the Hebrew, Greek, and English texts. Surely, I thought, that somewhere there is something that exists outside of this one forged book that will be the proof I so desperately sought that would finally reveal to me that Jesus of Nazareth is a real person behind the pages of my New Testament. As my studies accelerated because of what I was uncovering I was face to face with the facts of archeology, manuscript evidences, and modern scholarship from numerous scholars today that showed me the existence of hundreds of purposeful forgeries of religious texts in the New Testament concerning the "Jesus Story" but yet I clung to the hope that my Jesus is real and the soon coming Messiah of Israel. I reasoned: "So what; the book was forged by Rome". But I clung to the hope that my Jesus was real despite a Roman forgery of the Jewish Scriptures. But that was the early years when my studies were confined to Biblical Judaism and comparison of the texts from the Dead Sea Scrolls with the Greek Septuagint (LXX) and later English Old and New Testament translations. I can remember during these times and during these studies into the LXX, the Greek translation of the earlier Hebrew Scriptures which were translated in Alexandria, Africa, my first introductions into African Hermeticism and Gnosticism along with African Mythology. Just beginning to scratch the surface of these "theological rabbits" during that time I remember how scared I was at what I was reading and beginning to find and much of it literally took my breath away when I first began to look into Comparative Religions and Solar Mythology. It was in this time of my studies when beginning to study Comparative Religions with the Solar and Lunar Mythology of Egypt and later nations which taught the same things where I first saw the origins of the "Jesus Story" existing as far back as 13,000 B.C.E. I was mortified and after a short while put "these studies" on the shelf not wishing to go into these subject matters at the depth necessary at that time for fear of what I knew I would find. Still clinging to my Jesus you might say I was afraid to look into this. These studies would have to wait for another day. But that day came sooner than I ever expected. God has a way of leading you through the valley of the shadow of death; even when it involves simple study of the New Testament and the fear of the unknown.

So the time came for me to seriously embark upon these studies into Comparative Religions and Egyptian Solar and Lunar Mythology having put them down for about a year in which I turned to a much safer study of the "Jesus Story". But God would tug at my heart over and over to continue to go deeper into the study of the "Jesus Story". After about the first 4-5 years of study when everything was non-threatening when looking only at a "Jesus Jesus" and the Jewish faith and the Jewish ideas of the Messiah I felt safe and I could at that time reason that the texts were forged because the Gentiles wished to change the Jewish concepts of the Messiah.But all the while I felt the strong attraction to begin a serious study of African and Egyptian Religion as well as Gnosticism and it is there that I began to see the "Mystical Christ Within" of which the authentic Paul and his 7 epistles talks about. I decided that I would tackle Gnosticism first. It was in these beginning stages of my deeper study of "Gnosticism" that I began to find the reason for all the forgeries of the New Testament texts that I had found before and even the replacement of the "First Gnostic New Testament" with the "Second New Testament" of Rome which "literalized" this "Gnostic Christ within". These forgeries of New Testament texts were not only necessary to provide a Replacement Religion against Biblical Judaism but were also necessary to destroy the "Gnostic Christ Within" which I discovered was the belief of the earliest Christians which modern scholarship will today attest NEVER believed in a "Christ with flesh". In such studies dealing with the comparison of the Hebrew Tanakh with later quotes in the New Testament along with Gnostic Christianity I discovered the most unbelievable deception known to man; namely, the outright and blatant forgery of the New Testament along with the earlier purposeful mistranslation of the Hebrew Scriptures, the purposeful mistranslation and misquotation of the Hebrew Scriptures when quoted in the New Testament along with the outright purposeful invention of others in order to present a "fleshly Christ" instead of the "Mystical Christ within". This was done mind you to undermine and destroy the Gnostic opponents of Roman "literal" Christianity which was beginning to emerge after the first century. Rome, having not the "gnosis" to properly understand the "Gnostic Christ" nor the Egyptian "Karast" created a replacement religion that reinterpreted and destroyed the Ancient understandings of "the Christ". In so doing Rome destroys over the first 5 centuries of the emerging Gentile Church the Ancient understanding of God which has existed on this planet for over 30,000 years. One only has to study Egyptian Religion as far back as it goes to see that in the beginning Ancient mankind knew that God lives in them and the Invisible, Uncreated Energy and Intelligent Architect of the Universe, God, came through emanations to dwell within physical matter (mankind). These Ancients described this as "the descent of the Soul, the passion of the Christ (masculine), and the passion of the Sophia (feminine). Through my studies I learned how the Ancient Egyptians were the origin for the vast majority of religious doctrines and dogmas that exist in Christianity today while sad at the same time to see that so many of them has been "reinterpreted" and given different and erroneous meanings by Rome much later. I saw with my own eyes how Egypt believed that every child of God possessed within themselves this "Egyptian Karast" which is called "the Christ" today. But instead of everyone possessing this "Christ Within" Rome made it appear in their destruction of this Ancient knowledge and Biblical Judaism as well that this Christ existed in the "flesh" to the exclusion of others and was historically confined to one person alone; that being the "Jesus Christ" of Roman invention whom is called today "Jesus of Nazareth". The irony of it all would hit home when I discovered archeologists maintain that Nazareth was not even a city yet in the first century but was built much later. I saw quite clearly I had inherited and believed "a lie" from Rome but I was not alone for 2.5 billion others in the world are right there with me because of our "forged Christian texts".

Understand I grew up believing in Jesus and throughout all these years of study I desired to hang on to my "Jesus" as long as I could but the hard cold facts of the studies I was doing continued daily and monthly to expose my beliefs in a "Historical Jesus" as unfounded since the more I studied the less I saw of a "Historical Jesus Christ" and the more I saw that the original faith of the First Century Gnostic believers in "the Christ" was one that believed not in a "Historical Jesus Christ" but the "Gnostic Christ Within". The puzzle was coming together the more I studied and such study over time separated apart the Gnostic New Testament from later forgery of Rome's Second "literalized" New Testament and this separation of the First Gnostic New Testament from the Second Roman New Testament can be done today by the reader if he so wishes. But sadly for me the picture coming together from gathering the puzzle pieces strewn down through history presented for me the ultimate challenge to my faith. The picture unfolding for me daily, from book book, was not one that supported at all the existence of a flesh and blood Jesus of Nazareth; rather it revealed just the opposite. Forgery of the texts of the New Testament by Rome following the first century was the vehicle that gave life to this "historical" and "fleshly Christ".

I looked heavily into modern scholarship and what they have to say about the "Historical Jesus". Looking at the facts concerning the forgery of outside evidence for the existence of a "Historical Jesus" was depressing to say the least. Just like the ossuary of James, now been declared a fraud and the deceiver behind bars, I could find not one single existing unforged evidence attesting to the existence of a "Historical Jesus" outside of this already declared fraud of a book given us by Rome. An unbiased study of History and archeology and analysis of the surviving documents showed me that there is not a shred of legitimate historical evidence anywhere that the "Jesus Story" originated as the biography of a man named Jesus of Nazareth and in fact revealed evidence to the contrary. I consistently found that outside of this one forged book, the Roman Bible and the New Testament, there exists not one piece of unforged or unadulterated evidence for the historical existence of this man from Galilee.

By now I was ready to tackle Egypt and the Egyptian Solar and Lunar Mythology that was associated with the earliest "Jesus Story" ever found on this planet. I had overcome my fear of losing my Jesus and now nothing could hold me back at getting to the bottom of this "theological puzzle". I was off to find the truth behind the "Mystical Christ" and the "Mythical Christ" and determine once and for all the links, if any, to my inherited "Historical Jesus".

In time my studies would progress into other areas where my prior fear of discovering something that would make me lose my "faith in Jesus" no longer existed because it finally dawned on me that the truth mattered more than my faith; especially if my "faith" was in error. I would find over the next few years that a through study of Comparative Religions revealed to me that the basic plot of the "Jesus Story", from beginning to end, including the motif of a crucified savior, already existed in many other religions over 13 thousand years prior to the alleged time of Jesus of Nazareth. It all begins with Egypt. As I continued to submit to dedicated studies into Astronomy and Solar Mythology I found that beyond any doubt the "Jesus Story" is nothing more than an allegory for what is the oldest and most important "religious" understanding of God that Ancient mankind every wrote down.

It is the story of the the annual passage of Sun through not only the seasons of the year along with the Equinoxes and Solstices but the path of the Sun through the celestial sphere and the 12 Houses of the Zodiac during the year. What was even more unbelievable would be my discovery that this personification of the Sun in its trip through the sky throughout the year was the very foundation for all later events found in the many stories of these various "solar" gods and godmen. When this path of the Sun was "personified" and given a life of its own as if "human" it was a small step to characterize this path of the Sun in "anthropomorphic" language which was expressed through various allegories as seen in the lives of the many "solar representatives" as we find in Comparative Religion. These "solar representatives" are the "godmen" we find in recorded history like Osiris, Horus, Dionysus, Mithra, Attis, and even Jesus. These "personifications of the path of the Sun through the Zodiac were allegorized" and in so doing became the many "events" we find in the various stories of these "godmen". Amazingly the events and sayings (called the Logia) in the lives of these "godmen" like Horus, Dionysus, Mithra, and even Jesus follow in EXACT ORDER the very path of the Sun "personified" as it moves through the Sky and Heavens from House to House in the Zodiac in its one year cycle. You can take the life of Jesus as depicted in the New Testament and trace it through the New Testament and it lines up perfectly with this "personified path of the Sun" through the 12 Houses of the Zodiac which explains why the Synoptic Gospels have only a "one year" ministry for Jesus when the Gospel of John has it as 3 years. The lives, events, and sayings (Logia) of these "godmen" like Jesus follow in exact sequence the the path of the Sun (personified) as it moves through the 4 seasons of the year (Equinoxes and Solstices) and its relationship to associated Constellations along its route through the Sky yearly. The "Jesus Story" is no exception in this regard for I discovered to my utter amazement that this "Jesus Story", itself a "personification of the Sun in its path through the Zodiac, follows in exact chronological procession from Matthew chapter 1 through then end of the book this very same "personification" of the Sun in its path through the 12 Houses of the Zodiac. You have to see this to believe it but if and when you do there is no doubt that the New Testament depiction of Jesus is not one of a "historical person" but rather an allegory of the path of the Sun through the Zodiac. The proof is in the evidence and I will share that with the reader as we progress in our studies. It is to this we now turn in our studies as I will show the reader how this was done in the New Testament.
It is to these matters we now turn.

Let us continue our study in the second article in this series

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Eartheart wrote:

A lot of people are going to "lose their minds".... We cannot judge.. Each had their pleasures and their lusts and relished in the submissions... Time for us to pave the way... with our minds "intact"... Always!

you both seem to make screensex against the findfukk, so wild and uncontiniously are the x-static and deep pushes and throbs.
Its never about believing in JJ and consorts, but to commune and actively party-cipate

I have been in "training" on "how to die".... Yep... I want to die consciously in tact...

I have been attempting to positively-reinforce-- but I'm not sure that this is simply a preliminary exercise which might lead to a satisfying solution.

Oxymonad, the reminder of our highest x-pressable feelings was put in the so called church - just that and nothing else!!! So please lets drop the dead mnemo of others and write the "Third Testament" on a thread all togather!??!!

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmeennnnn

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaUV-atOfOY
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlCi4jjkMSk&feature=related
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALiA7y7G37g&feature=related
4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkXpnG_VS6c&feature=related
5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRTjsiNczpk&feature=related


Imagine the Great Sanhedrin in the Context of Saint Ouen as the Last Word in Solar System Governance!!
What if the Final-Judgment Were a Mal-Doran??!!

Aquaries1111 wrote:

Rev. Craig Lyons was the pastor of one of the largest mega-churches in Dallas. His continued study led him to resign a very lucrative position and create, over the course of 10 years, a very insightful and an amazingly well researched work of comparative religion whose depth and breadth is truly awesome. (His "selective" bibliography is a virtual library of religious and academic literature and is worthy of study on its own right.) He has divided his work into four sections that correspond to the ancient Hebrew system of instruction and each of these are sub-divided into two sections. Although one might not agree with all of his conclusions, anyone who considers Christianity as the most important part of their lives (or once did so) must read Rev. Craig's works. His life has been one long arduous study of religion since graduating Southwestern Theological Seminary in 1988.
 
After the first 7 years of such study he was forced to resign as a Christian Pastor having been thoroughly convinced that he was not teaching the truth concerning the "Jesus Story" nor "the Christ" but only reiterating an aberrant tradition that had strayed so distantly from the truths of the Ancients concerning this "Jewish Messiah" whom was believed to be "the Christ". After reading hundreds of books over those years and studying usually 5 hours a day, year after year, he has come to see without a doubt that all the world's religions, including Christianity, are nothing more than rewritten versions of an older story held dear by the earliest sages and priest of mankind that can be found on this planet; namely, the story of the birth, death, and rebirth of the Sun as it makes it circuit through the sky and the Zodiac once a year.

http://setyoufree.lefora.com/2011/01/23/the-edge-am-november-20th-2010-rev-craig-lyons-mys/

Eartheart wrote:My queen has abolished the traders doctrines and given those upgrown as slaves to the children! My King has given pardon and recycles his dreaming in seclusion! Nature is frozen and awaits the Loovers of the next dramafusion... Those strange guests return home and are here... The so called first love & innocent joy of our children echos through my minds. Its a continious rebirth in me and nothing to hold on to.

Carol wrote:I'm totally into living in the NOW.  There is only the eternal present no mater what state of conscious awareness one exists as.  However, I really liked what Melon Thomas did when he died and would like to give that a try.  He did come back after a few hours and riga mortis had set in but was completely healed and cured of brain cancer.  Not that I plan to resurrect per say.  But transfiguration would be an option I enjoy entertaining.

devakas wrote:

NO light No light

Orthodoxymoron at Work!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4fB51M13X4

devakas wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:... I truly wish to be as historical as possible -- while being completely honest as I continue to face legion brutal gangs of facts. Those bastards!!

In nineteen sixties Roman Catholic Church relaxed their law that God can reveal Himself not only through Romans church religion. This is big deal for humanity.  Does it mean something?  Somebody made this convincing part to them.

Next important step was recent battle in Russia, where rulers tried to ban Bhagavad Gita, but it happened as it was said in Vedas.  Krishna won the battle.  Russia should become vedic culture.

attachment in this material world is not advisable.  One may become victim of his own propaganda.

humans become victims of their own propaganda.

look for the one who removes the fear of all fallen souls imho

devakas wrote:...One may become victim of his own propaganda...

humans intoxicate themselves into untrue easy

I agree video seems dark in revelation as in this thread kind a...

We should look for this who does not have conflicts, who is heavy in knowledge, who is realized and lives by the realized instructions, who has knowledge the same that god, who is follower and most dear servent of god, who can answer questions why star in sky, why i suffer in this world, who is realized and who has power from god, who walks the talk, who teaches nature law, energies of nature, teaches tolerance in nature, who is more tolerant than tree, who saves from weakness, who teaches how not to go crazy in this 'material' world, how not to go crazy in the absurdity of the world, who teaches not to loose intelligence even mind is lost, who liberates fallen soul from misery and lifts up to imortality, who teaches all not perfect to follow perfect, who teaches not to be afraid, not to attach to material world, not to own matterial world, not to have anger (depressed=supresed inner), not to get into untoxication of untrue, how not only be sincere, it is not enough, but truthful (most important), how to bow to those who are transperant and will not hold the pride, who hold the unique post, who carries god message, who transpars (spelling?) instructions directly from god, who teaches that we do not belong to ufo or our leaders so called. Who teaches our duties prescribed by god, who reveals that our souls are attractive to devotional service because the most important for soul is relationship and when we minimize our desires, mind projections, that makes sense, makes sense to everyone. A service supports relationship concept doesn't it?. Who teaches not to get involved in stupid industries, who teaches not to get involved in science without god, as there is something more than that, something more..., who removes our pride to see in nature many things that are hard to believe... who teaches that god could be understood by sound, that prayer is medicine by ears....

And who teaches that we humans are not qualified to rule the world (galaxies in your case), to control others, to use others to fight others.

i should stop....

we are living in ocean of false

Namaste

devakas wrote:It was not my opinion, Vedic scripts hold the truth, where each word of 4 mil verses means galaxies explaining the existance, human origins, duties, symptoms and etc. The discipline you are refering to is nonsense. There is no realization - zero in this. It is hard to contemplate realized life. You know and you refer to this meaning as you know under Kali. Realized souls said there is liberation from Kali, but you are not in this sort of trust. You stay with the moto of United States 'we trust in god' and have an impact on you heavily.

Some humans need to be told what to do and what not to do. Your writings are rebelion against second. No light here.

it is hard to choose a god from many you find, isn't it? I dont think you are interested in God, you just interested in THINK politico games. Is this all thead about it?

devakas wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:How is 'Discipline' nonsense??

...And who teaches that we humans are not qualified to rule the world (galaxies in your case), to control others, to use others to fight others.


when we do not discipline ourselves we try to discipline something else, Kony 2012, galaxies. This is the problem.

Even Thrive movement would be successful if people would BELIEVE in GOD and TRUST in GOD. If they would teach kids not to center theyr personalities, destroy the self centeredness, if each would do their work to perfect their duties, to perfect their work what they like to do- only this is right work, if they would be taught God energies and if they would celebrate God's name, Him would arrange the nicest environment for all. When people with duties, would be transparent and perfect in their duties, all weak would be supported and protected.

when people would be taught Who they are, that soul leaves the same as it enters living entity, that all material world is given by His mercy for our personal mental exercises most in rebelious to Him, that all material world has temporarity and ignorance,

only then people would DO RIGHT thing to serve God and follow His instructions.

Btw today teacher His Holiness Radhanath Swami will be in Laguna.

He has no credit card or salary, but he feeds tens of thousand people everyday AS he is doing Right thing, He believes in God and God helps him. Any comparison with any other??   Tree should be judged by its fruits, isn't it?

Namaste

devakas wrote:...And who teaches that we humans are not qualified to rule the world (galaxies in your case), to control others, to use others to fight others. When we do not discipline ourselves we try to discipline something else, Kony 2012, galaxies. This is the problem.

Who does teach that humans are not qualified to rule their home? Why 'galaxies' in my case?

Even Thrive movement would be successful if people would BELIEVE in GOD and TRUST in GOD. If they would teach kids not to center theyr personalities, destroy the self centeredness, if each would do their work to perfect their duties, to perfect their work what they like to do- only this is right work, if they would be taught God energies and if they would celebrate God's name, Him would arrange the nicest environment for all. When people with duties, would be transparent and perfect in their duties, all weak would be supported and protected.

Believe and Trust in which God? (by Name)

when people would be taught Who they are, that soul leaves the same as it enters living entity, that all material world is given by His mercy for our personal mental exercises most in rebelious to Him, that all material world has temporarity and ignorance, only then people would DO RIGHT thing to serve God and follow His instructions.

Is God a Male? (specific source) Where are God's Instructions found? (specifically)

Btw today teacher His Holiness Radhanath Swami will be in Laguna. :cheers:He has no credit card or salary, but he feeds tens of thousand people everyday AS he is doing Right thing, He believes in God and God helps him. Any comparison with any other??   Tree should be judged by its fruits, isn't it? Namaste

Does the term 'His Holiness' imply 'Divinity'? At what point does a name become blasphemous? Should the Pope be referred to as 'Your Holiness' or as 'The Holy Father'? Should high-ranking Anglicans be referred to as 'The Very Reverend'? What does it really mean to 'Take God's Name in Vain'?

Namaste.

devakas wrote:
you are too angry. angry means you feel lack of respect.

devakas

devakas wrote:
to respect means to serve.  bees always find the best, fly to the best, flies gets whatever and enjoys whatever...

agree?

Aquaries1111 wrote:Hi Oxy,

I JUST WANT THE BS TO STOP!!! PEACE!!! BE STILL!!! If anyone hasn't watched this video series - PLEASE DO SO!! It brings so many things together in an understandable manner. Stop the video - and read the fine-print. I think this video series is extremely important!

At some point - I might like to work with all of those listed above - once I got used to them! What about that debate-date, Kali??? You must REALLY hate me...

OK...a lot of people hate me. I have been blocked by several YouTube channels - including the poster of the video series mentioned above. ufo-hypothesis (Rick Keefe - who interviews Alex Collier) has blocked me. Another one - which is critical of the Roman Catholic Church - has blocked me. This is very, very odd - since I am mostly editorially on-board with the blockers!!! None of them told me a damn thing - so I have no idea why I have been blocked. Two of my websites have been taken over by someone I have never heard of - and one has been removed from the internet - even though I am paid-up for several years. I am very paranoid - and they probably really are out to get me. Strange world we live in.

What's odd - is that I really and truly have no animosity toward anyone. Period. Although - to be honest - I am annoyed by just about everyone - especially myself. But I have no seething agenda or fecal list. I really and truly am seeking a big-tent solution - rather than something which is narrow and exclusive. It's an equal-opportunity big-tent for males, females, hermaphrodites, and all races - including aliens and hybrids! I think I'm probably way too accommodating and easy-going.

Think I found it Oxy...

Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (1831-91) is without comparison the single person who has had the most influence in the Occult Sciences in the 19 Century. She was born in Ukraine with the name Von Hahn-Rottenstern. She was a very sensitive child, often sleep-walking and suffered from hallucinations. Tibet was a very popular place to travel to in the 19 Century when most Europeans were quite disillusioned. So did also Madame Blavatsky, who as an adult saw herself as a telepath and a psychic. She was also the author to the book Secret Doctrine. In this book she wrote that during her trip to Tibet, she was led into a secret room underneath a Tibetan monastery where she was shown texts of ancient occult and mystical secrets of the universe, which also was said to lay a route to the future course of history. The texts said that man once was pure spirit without a body, but had fallen down to base matter, darkness and chaos. She then was initiated into magical practicing, using esoteric symbols which learnt how the human race once again would rise into pure spirit. She claimed she was in current telepathic contact with Hidden Masters, who taught her the occult history of the human race. Blavatsky was taught that the most powerful symbol of these esoteric ones was the Swastika. She wrote there were 7 stages of evolution, she named them route races. The race which should rise again to true spirit she named Aryans. In Tibet the Swastika was known as the son of fire and creation, but in Madame Blavatsky's teachings the Swastika was the symbol of the "alleged" Aryan race.

Aquaries1111 wrote:This work
I dedicate to all true Theosophists,
in every Country
and of every Race,
for they called it forth, and for them it was recorded

H.P. Blavatsky

http://theosophytrust.org/Online_Books/The_Secret_Doctrine_Vol_1_V3.0.2.pdf

Aquaries1111 wrote:"The most I can do is to acquaint you with the authority of your own psyche - to give you a trust in the nature of your being. For, if you trust what you are, you can never go wrong in whatever terms you use. You can fly through belief systems as a butterfly flies through back yards."

Seth

CHAPTER 17

PROBABILITIES, THE NATURE OF GOOD AND EVIL, AND RELIGIOUS SYMBOLISM

Christian dogma speaks of the ascension of Christ, implying of course a vertical ascent into the heavens, and the development of the soul is often discussed in terms of direction. To progress is supposedly to ascend, while the horror of religious punishment, hell, is seen at the bottom of all things.

Development is therefore considered in a one-line direction only, in Christian terms. Seldom, for example, is it thought of in horizontal terms. The idea of evolution in its popular meaning promulgated this theory, as through gradual progression in a one-line direction, man emerged from the ape. Christ could just as well have disappeared sideways.

The inner reality of the message was told in terms that man at the time could understand, in line with his root assumptions. Development unfolds in all directions. The soul is not ascending a series of stairs, each one representing a new and higher point of development.

Instead, the soul stands at the center of itself, exploring, extending its capacities in all directions at once, involved in issues of creativity, each one highly legitimate. The probable system of reality opens up the nature of the soul to you. It should change current religion's ideas considerably. For this reason, the nature of good and evil is a highly important point.

On the one hand, quite simply and in a way that you cannot presently understand, evil does not exist. However, you are obviously confronted with what seem to be quite evil effects. Now it has been said often that there is a god, so there must be a devil - or if there is good, there must be evil. This is like saying that because an apple has a top, it must have a bottom - but without any understanding of the fact that both are a portion of the apple.

We go back to our fundamentals: You create reality through your feelings, thoughts, and mental actions. Some of these are physically materialized, others are actualized in probable systems. You are presented with an endless series of choices, it seems, at any point, some more or less favorable than others.

You must understand that each mental act is a reality for which you are responsible. That is what you are in this particular system of reality for. As long as you believe in a devil, for example, you will create one that is real enough for you, and for the others who continue to create him.

Because of the energy he is given by others, he will have a certain consciousness of his own, but such a mock devil has no power or reality to those who do not believe in his existence, and who do not give him energy through their belief. He is, in other words, a superlative hallucination As mentioned earlier, those who believe in a hell and assign themselves to it through their belief can indeed experience one, but certainly in nothing like eternal terms. No soul is forever ignorant.

Now those who have such beliefs actually lack a necessary deep trust in the nature of consciousness, of the soul, and of All That Is. They concentrate upon not what they think of as the power of good, but fearfully upon what they think of as the power of evil.

The hallucination is created, therefore, out of fear and of restriction. The devil idea is merely the mass projection of certain fears - mass in that it is produced by many people, but also limited in that there have always been those who rejected this principle.

Some very old religions understood the hallucinatory nature of the devil concept, but even in Egyptian times, the simpler and more distorted ideas became prevalent, particularly with the masses of people. In some ways, men in those times could not understand the concept of a god without the concept of a devil.

Storms, for example, are highly creative natural events, though they can also cause destruction. Early man could see only the destruction. Some intuitively understood that any effects are creative, despite their appearances, but few could convince their fellow men.

The light-and-darkness contrast presents us with the same kind of picture. The good was seen as light, for men felt safer in the day. The evil was therefore assigned to nightfall. Within the mass of distortions, however, hidden beneath the dogma there was always a hint of the basic creativity of every effect.

There are, then, no devils waiting to carry anyone off, unless you create them yourself, in which case the power resides in you and not in the mock devils. The Crucifixion and attendant drama made sense within your reality at the time. It arose into the world of physical actuality out of the inner reality from which your deepest intuitions and insights also spring.

The race brought forth the events, then, that would best convey in physical terms this deeper nonphysical knowledge of the indestructibility of the soul. This particular drama would not have made sense to other systems with different root assumptions than your own.

The symbolism of ascent or descent, or of light and dark, would be meaningless to other realities with different perceptive mechanisms. While your religions are built around an enduring kernel of truth, the symbolism used was craftily selected by the inner self in line with its knowledge of those root assumptions you hold as valid in the physical universe. Other information, in dreams for example, will also be given to you with the same symbolism, generally speaking. The symbolism itself, however, was simply used by the inner self. It does not inherently belong to inner reality.

Many probable systems have perceptive mechanisms far different from your own. In fact, some are based upon gestalts of awareness completely alien to you. Quite without realizing it, your ego is a result of group consciousness, for example; the one consciousness that most directly faces the exterior world, is dependent upon the minute consciousness that resides within each living cell of your body; and as a rule you are only aware of one ego - at least at a time.

In some systems the "individual" is quite aware of having more egos than one, in your terms. The entire psychological organization is in a way richer than your own. A Christ who was not aware of this would not appear in such a system, you see. There are kinds of perception with which you are not familiar, worlds in which your idea of light does not exist, where almost infinite gradations of thermal qualities are absorbed in terms of sensation, not of light.

In any of these worlds, the Christ drama could never appear as it appeared within your own. Now the same thing applies to each of your great religions, though as I have said in the past, the Buddhists come closer, generally speaking, to a description of the nature of reality. They have not understood the eternal validity of the soul, however, in terms of its exquisite invulnerability, nor been able to hold a feeling for its unique character. But Buddha, like Christ, interpreted what he almost knew in terms of your own reality. Not only of your own physical reality, but your own probable physical reality.

The methods, the secret methods behind all of the religions, were meant to lead man into a realm of understanding that existed apart from the symbols and the stories, into inner realizations that would take him both within and without the physical world that he knew. There are many manuscripts still not discovered, from old monasteries particularly in Spain, that tell of underground groups within religious orders who kept these secrets alive when other monks were copying old Latin manuscripts.

There were tribes who never learned to write in Africa and Australia who also knew these secrets, and men called "Speakers" who memorized them and spread them upward, even throughout northern portions of Europe, before the time of Christ.

Offhand, the work involved could take five years, for there were several versions, and a group of leaders, each going in different directions, who taught their people. The world was far more ripe for Christianity than people suppose, because of these groups. The ideas were "buried" already throughout Europe.

Many important concepts were lost, however. The emphasis was on practical methods of living - quite simply - rules that could be understood, but the reasons for them were forgotten.

The Druids obtained some of their concepts from Speakers. So did the Egyptians. The Speakers predated the emergence of any religions that you know, and the religions of the Speakers arose spontaneously in many scattered areas, then grew like wildfire from the heart of Africa and Australia. There was one separate group in an area where the Aztecs dwelled at a later date, though the land mass was somewhat different then, and some of the lower cave dwellings at times were under water.

Various bands of the Speakers continued through the centuries. Because they were trained so well, the messages retained their authenticity. They believed, however, that it was wrong to set words into written form, and so did not record them. They also used natural earth symbols, but clearly understood the reasons for this. The Speakers, singly, existed in your Stone Age period, and were leaders. Their abilities helped the cavemen survive. There was little physical communication, however, in those days between the various Speakers, and some were unaware of the existence of the others.

Their message was as "pure" and undistorted as possible. It was for this reason however, through the centuries, that many who heard it translated it into parables and tales. Now, strong portions of Jewish scriptures carry traces of the message of these early Speakers, but even here, distortions have hidden the messages.

Since consciousness forms matter, and not the other way around, then thought exists before the brain and after it. A child can think coherently before he learns vocabulary - but he cannot impress the physical universe in its terms. So this inner knowledge has always been available, but is to become physically manifest - literally made flesh. The Speakers were the first to impress this inner knowledge upon the physical system, to make it physically known. Sometimes only one or two Speakers were alive in several centuries. Sometimes there were many. They looked around them and knew that the world sprang from their interior reality. They told others. They knew that the seemingly solid natural objects about them were composed of many minute consciousnesses.

They realized that from their own creativity they formed idea into matter, and that the stuff of matter was itself conscious and alive. They were intimately familiar with the natural rapport existing between themselves and their environment, therefore, and knew that they could alter their environment through their own acts.

Generally speaking, once a Speaker always a speaker, in your terms. In some incarnations, the abilities might be used so powerfully that all other aspects of the personality remained in the background. At other times the capacities might be timidly used. The Speakers possess an extraordinary vividness of feeling and thought pro-jection.

They can impress others with greater import through their communications. They can move from inner to outer reality with easy ability. They know instinctively how to use symbolism. They are highly creative on an unconscious level, constantly forming psychic frameworks beneath normal consciousness that can be used both by themselves and others in dream and trance states. They often appear to others in the dream condition, and they help dreamers in the manipulation of inner reality. They form images with which the dreamers can relate, images that can be used as bridges and then as gateways into kinds of consciousness more separated from your own.

The symbolism of the gods, the idea of the gods on Olympus, for example, the crossing-over point at the River Styx - that kind of phenomenon was originated by the Speakers. The symbolisms and frameworks of religion, therefore, had to exist not only in the physical world but also in the unconscious one. Outside of your own framework, houses as such or dwellings as such are not needed, and yet in trance encounters or dream encounters with other realities, such structures are frequently seen. They are transformations of data into terms that will be meaningful to you.

After death, for example, an individual may continue to create these - masses of individuals may - until they realize that the frameworks are no longer necessary. The Speakers were not confined in their activities, therefore, to waking consciousness. In all periods of your time they went about their duties both in the waking and sleep state. Much of the most pertinent information, in fact, was memorized by trainees during the dream condition, and passed on in the same manner. These unwritten manuscripts therefore were also illustrated, so to speak, by dream journeys or field trips into other kinds of reality. Such training still goes on. The particular psychic or story framework may vary. For example, conventional images of the Christian God and the saints may be utilized by the Speakers, with all of this highly vivid. The dreamer may find himself then in a magnificent harem, or instead in a brilliantly illuminated field or sky. Some Speakers confine their abilities to the dream state; and, waking, are largely unconscious of their own abilities or experience.

Now it is meaningless to call such dreams or dream places hallucinations, for they are representations of definite "objective" realities that you cannot perceive as yet in their own guise. The Egyptian religion was largely based upon the work of the Speakers, and great care was given to their training. The outward manifestations given to the masses of the people became so distorted, however, that the original unity of the religion finally decayed.

However, efforts were being made then to map inner reality in ways that have not been attempted since. It is true that in the dream state and in some other levels of existence close to your own, there is strong individual play in the creation of images, and a magnificent use of symbolism, but all of this takes place, again, in an "objective" definite environment, an environment whose characteristics make such phenomena possible - a field of activity, then, with its own rules. Now the Speakers are familiar with those rules, and often serve as guides. They have at times worked within organizations as in Egypt, where they worked through the temples and became involved with the power structures. As a rule, however, they are far more solitary.

Because of the true simultaneous nature of time, they are, of course, speaking to all of your ages at once through their various manifestations. On occasion they also serve as mediators, introducing to each other two incarnations of one personality, for example.

The rules within physical reality say that objects appear to be stationary and permanent. The rules of other realities are often far different, however. The nature of mental activities will follow different lines, and "continuity" in terms of time will not exist. Perceptual organization will exist by the use of different psychological groupings.

From the outside, such systems would seem meaningless to you even if you were able to perceive them. You would not be able to observe the pivot points about which actions occurred. The very definite rules of that system then would be quite obscure to you.

Now the Speakers are familiar with the rules within many systems. Still, however, most of these systems in larger terms are somewhat connected with your own kind of reality. There are an infinite number of inner universes. Only the very highest, most developed gestalt consciousness can be aware of anything like their totality. In this larger context, then, the Speakers must be called local. There is something like a chart mapping many of the nearby systems of reality, and I hope some day in your terms to make this available. In order to do so, Ruburt must be trained somewhat more intensely. There are points of coincidence where under certain conditions entry may be made from one of these systems to the other. They need not exist separately in space as you know it, of course.

These are called coordination points, where one camouflage merges into the other. Some of these are geographical in your system, but in all cases, a tuning-in of consciousness is a necessary preliminary. Such entries can only be made in an out-of-body condition. Each individual in his dreams has access to the information possessed by the Speakers. There are adjacent states of consciousness that occur within the sleep pattern, that cannot be picked up by your EEG's - adjacent "corridors" through which your consciousness travels.

The higher centers of intuition are activated while physically oriented portions of consciousness remain with the body. The "absent" portion of the self cannot be traced through brain patterns, though the point of its departure and the point of its return may show a particular pattern. The "time out" itself, however, will not be detected in any way, the tracings showing only whatever characteristic pattern was being given immediately before departure.

Now this happens in every night's sleep. Two areas of activity are involved, one very passive and one acutely active. In one state this portion of consciousness is passive, receiving information. In the next stage it is active as it takes part through action - the concepts given it are then vividly perceived through participation and examples. This is the most protected area of sleep. The rejuvenating characteristics enter in here, and it is during this period that the Speakers act as teachers and guides.

This information is, then, often interpreted on return by other layers of the self such as the body consciousness and subconscious, where it is formed into dreams that will have meaning to these areas of the self and where general teaching, for example, may be translated into practical advice involving a particular matter.

There are several very definite stages of sleep, and they all perform various services for the personality. They are also signals for different layers of consciousness, realization, and activity. They are accompanied by some physical variations, and there are some variations having to do with age.

In our next chapter I will speak of these in some detail. For now it is sufficient to realize that specific steps, definite alterations, occur as consciousness is shifted from the exterior to the interior reality, and that these changes are not random; that consciousness leaves through a very predictable route to its many destinations. Through the ages the Speakers have taught dreamers how to manipulate in these other environments. They have taught them how to bring back information that could be used for the good of the present personality. According to the intent, present purpose, and development, an individual may be aware of these travels to varying degrees. Some have excellent recall, for example, but often misinterpret their experience because of conscious ideas.

It is very possible for one dreamer who is a Speaker, to go to the aid of another individual who is having some difficulties in an inner reality within the dream state. The idea of guardian angels of course is highly connected here. A good Speaker is as effective within one reality as he is within the other, creating psychic frameworks within physical reality as well as within interior environments. Many artists, poets, and musicians are Speakers, translating one world in terms of another, forming psychic structures that exist in both with great vitality - structures that may be perceived from more than one reality at once.

There are also various states of consciousness in waking life, upon which you do not focus, and of which you are usually quite unaware. Each state knows its own conditions and is familiar with a different kind of reality.

"You" presently have a once-centered consciousness, in that "you" close off from your experience these other stages of consciousness in which other portions of your entire identity are intimately involved. These other stages of consciousness create their own realities as you create your own. The realities are, therefore, byproducts of consciousness itself. If you could become aware of these, they might appear to be other places to you, rather than realms or fields of different kinds of activities. If you probe into these realms you will be forced to perceive them with the root assumptions of your own system, translating feelings of warmth and comfort, for example, into images of warm shelters or buildings, or feelings of fear into images of demons.

On occasion even in waking life a personality may spontaneously shift gears, so to speak, and suddenly find itself for a second or perhaps a few moments within another such realm. Disorientation usually occurs. There are those who do this quite deliberately with training, but often they do not realize that they are interpreting the experiences they have with the values of their "home" consciousness.

All of this is not as esoteric as it might seem. Almost every individual has had bizarre experiences with consciousness, and knows intuitively that their greater experience is not limited to physical reality. Most dreams are like animated postcards brought back from a journey that you have returned from and largely forgotten. Your consciousness is already oriented again to physical reality; the dream, an attempt to translate the deeper experience into recognizable forms. The images within the dream are also highly coded, and are signals for underlying events that are basically not decipherable.

The Speakers help you in the formation of dreams which are indeed multidimensional artistic productions of a kind - dreams existing in more than one reality, with effects that dissect various stages of consciousness that are real, in your terms, to both the living and the dead and in which both the living and the dead may participate. It is for this reason that inspirations and revelations are so often a part of the dream condition.

Divorced from physical focus, you are in a better position to hear the Speakers, to translate their instructions, to practice with the creation of images, and to be guided in the methods of maintaining the health of the physical body. In the most protected areas of sleep, the apparent barriers between many layers of reality vanish. You are aware, for example, of some probable realities. You choose which probable acts you want to actualize in your system. You follow other probable acts through in the dream state. You do this individually, but you also do it en masse on national and global levels.

Consciousness at different levels or stages perceives different kinds of events. In order to perceive some of these you have only to learn to change the focus of your attention from one level to another. There are minute chemical and electromagnetic alterations that accompany these stages of consciousness, and certain physical changes within the body itself in hormone production and pineal activity.

You usually glide from wakefulness through to sleep without ever noticing the various conditions of consciousness through which you pass, yet there are several. First, of course, with various degrees of spontaneity, there is the inward turn of consciousness away from physical data, from worries and concerns of the day. Then there is an undifferentiated level between wakefulness and sleep where you act as a receiver - passive but open, in which telepathic and clairvoyant messages come to you quite easily.

Your consciousness can seem to float. There are varying physical sensations, sometimes of growing large, sometimes of falling. Both sensations are characteristic of moments in which you almost catch yourself, almost become aware of this undifferentiated area, and then translate some of its experiences into physical terms. The sensation of largeness, for example, is a physical interpretation of the psychic expansion. The feeling of falling is an interpretation of a sudden return of consciousness to the body.

This period can last for only a few moments, for half an hour, or can be returned to. It is a cushioning, supportive, and expansive stage of consciousness. Suggestions given during this time are highly effective. Following this period there is an active state, that can occur, of pseudo-dreaming, where the mind busies itself with physical concerns that have managed to cling through the first two stages.

If these are too vigorous, the individual may awaken. This is a vivid, intense, but usually brief stage. Another undifferentiated layer follows, this time marked quite definitely by voices, conversations, or images, as consciousness tunes in more firmly to other communications. Several of these may compete for the individual's attention. At this point the body is fairly quiet. The individual will follow one or another of these inner stimuli to a deeper level of consciousness, and form into light dreams the communications he is receiving.

Somewhere during this time he will go into a deeply protected area of sleep, where he is at the threshold to other layers of reality and probabilities. At this point his experiences will be out of all context to time as you know it. He may experience years though only minutes have passed. He will then return toward physical reality in an area marked as REM sleep by your scientists, where physically oriented dream productions will be created, putting the knowledge he has gained into use. The cycle would then be repeated. Almost the same kinds of fluctuations and stages occur even when you are waking, however, though you are even less aware of them because then the egotistical self acts quite purposefully to blanket out these other areas of experience.

The precise stages are present beneath waking awareness, however, and with the same chemical, electromagnetic, and hormonal fluctuations. You simply are not aware of what your consciousness is doing. You cannot yourselves keep track of it for five full moments of your time. The dimensions of it can only be sensed by those determined enough to take the time and effort required to journey through their own subjective realities. Yet intuitively each individual knows that a part of his experience escapes from him all the time. When you suddenly cannot remember a name that you should know, you have in essence the same kind of feeling of which you are always subconsciously aware.

The purpose of the Speakers is to help you correlate and understand this multidimensional existence, and to bring as much as possible of it to your conscious attention. Only by learning to feel, or sense, or intuitively perceive the depths of your own experience can you glimpse the nature of All That Is. By becoming more aware of your consciousness as it operates in physical life, you can learn to watch it as it manipulates through these other less familiar areas. Probable realities are only probable to you because you are not aware of them.

These stages of consciousness are all a part of your own reality. A knowledge of them can be most useful. You can learn to "shift gears," stand aside from your own experience, and examine it with much better perspective. You can prepare questions or problems, suggesting that they be solved for you in the sleep state. You can suggest that you will speak with distant friends, or convey important messages that you cannot convey verbally, perhaps. You can bring about reconciliations, for example, at another layer of reality though you cannot do so in this one.

You can direct the healing of your body, telling yourself that this will be accomplished by you at one of the other levels of sleep consciousness, and you may ask for the aid of a Speaker to give you any necessary psychological guidance that is needed to maintain health. If you have particular conscious goals and if you are reasonably certain that they are beneficial ones, then you can suggest dreams in which they occur, for the dreams themselves will hasten their physical reality.

Now unconsciously you do many of these things. You often go back In time, so to speak, and "relive" a particular event so that it has a different ending, or say things that you wish you had said. A knowledge of one state of consciousness can help you in other states. In a light trance the meaning of dream symbols will be given if you ask for them. The symbols may then be used as methods of suggestion that will be tailored for you personally. If you discover, say, that a fountain in a dream represents refreshment, then when you are tired or depressed, think of a fountain. In another layer of reality, of course, you will be creating one.

In the most protected areas of sleep you are dealing with experience that is pure feeling or knowing, and disconnected from both words or images. As mentioned, these experiences are translated into dreams later, necessitating a return to areas of consciousness more familiar with physical data. Here a great creative synthesis and a great creative diversification takes place, in which any given dream image has meaning to various layers of the self - on one level representing a truth you have lived and on other levels representing this truth as it is more specifically applied to various areas of experience or problems. There will be a metamorphosis, therefore, of one symbol turning into many, and the conscious mind may only perceive a chaos of various dream images, because the inner organization and unity is partially hidden in the other areas of consciousness through which the reasoning mind cannot follow.

The unconscious and subconscious areas, however, are aware of much more of this information than the ego, for it receives only the minute residue of dream material as a rule. The Speakers therefore may appear within dreams as historical characters, as prophets, as trusted old friends, or in whatever guise will impress the particular personality.

In the original experience, however, the true nature of the Speaker is apparent. The production of dreams is as "sophisticated" an endeavor as is the production of the objective life of a given individual. It is simply living on different terms.

These various stages of consciousness and fluctuations of psychic activity can also be examined through direct experience from the waking state. In the following chapter we will let you become more aware of these ever-active portions of your own reality.

http://www.theshiftofconsciousness.info/seth.html

Eartheart wrote:Theological Science-Fiction;

i would like that to distract the anal-iced mindframe and
than tell about the loovers dreamtime unfolding into plasmascience and virtual politix!
Your Refined Positive-Reinforcement is a very valid praxis, dear Oxymonad. I like it too.
Everything in a manner of Grace and Mercy, presented by familiar initiation rites???It is gifted like life and creations!!!  
I continue to like the idea of a highly-ethical, highly-refined, and deeply-spiritual secular-society.
Thats just my dreaming too, sounds it is there calling for souls to comprehend...

to our questionaire:
the manner in which Jesus treats the Decalogue is somewhat puzzling???
Its because those 10 to 24 "commandments" are uncreatively "borrowed"
from the "Book of the death(daat)" of templeinitiation, which describe again the path of the
sun ( ref.: Lyon) and the part & parcel of indi soul thereof. In a manner of translating:
The seeker went to the temple and declared his soul sinnless by saying to the guardians
of his spiritfamily: I have not killed (today)!, i have not fooked my friends wife! I have not stolen fromthose kids....ect. There is no shall or commando in it, but may be those idiots around the golden calf need it strong???? So a highprist, galactic awakend king and cosmopolitican essene leader like JJ has
known it too, remember them stayed in egypt for Aton or JJ was Moses or wtf... Anyhow, if you got the living spirit working through you, those crooks are bad toys!

The Pauline Epistles further our mercy, when we see that pauls everywhere as a public disgrace,similar todays agents with Thora agendas, and how spirit makes them repent, but its actually JJ bro
James (Galatians 1:19), who continioued the holy circulation, with MagdaMary's Loove to Source,
till them left to the french coast with their new daughter Sarah???
So all the iideological comprehension of Pauline propaganda are worthless psychopathic egotripping,
see was has come from it, Jesuits forged Islam and Advent and evangelists and killer armies and takeover
vati-can-do-all... Thanx to that BS.

shed light on who the Gods and/or Goddesses of Egypt might've really been -- and whether one or two of them became the God of Israel??
When anyone can comprehend, that after Exodus all the southern greek populations and tribes where blatantly murdered by the runaway slaves - a few million beautifull people, who wouldnt follow that reptilian
agenda from the so called jew spawned experimentations, with what we know about An as fake solar usurper,
(remember them went by montauk timerift back ~ 5000 years to establish themself as idols with a fake creationstory,
similar to scientists with a big-bang in their heads), thats what them learned from the offworlders, which wherent gods, but armyborg reptiles. Even recently in the caverns of Giza and during the WW2 sciencetransfer there would be spotted anubisheads and other figurines of the egypt pantheum by citypeople. Longlife borgs!

The Old Testament is highly troubling to me. If one has no other Gods than the Old Testament God -- is that necessarily a good thing??

Very bad thing, while life and revelation went on with our living divine Lifelight Spirit trippleX, that OT has become a disfunctional,
disruptive and corrupted nightmare. Shame on those Rabbies! Every israeli Lady knows it! By Heart!

I suspect Archangelic Queens of Heaven -- in conflict with each other

-- but it where winged Mothers from Orion, which controll their gentrades and borgrites, grant AI and the relevant software. Enki and those conected to the 8Dim andromedan council repopulation programms of Sol3 where AWAT-teamed by An and his 300+ soldiers,
which where 20century runaways from those OrionMothers agreeing to the Anchara Peace. Probably them holding till last drop to those old Paroles and think of the Peaceagenda as a trick and deceptive measure, so by taking over Earth (strategic to sirius and Alcyone) hem believe in becoming orion warheros... The first thing they did was to take
away the software "chips" from those working with adromedan council. Imagine Pandora and Lilith beeing very wise,
advanced pristesses of those orion motherlineages, scientists of elusive genetical schools, with lofty idols, and than beeing forced to produce slaves for mining and sex in An's order. Than you see Sitchins ect. mistakes and some real of it.
'  

Just Following Orders to Carry Out Torture, Theft, Terrorism, and Mass Murder is Probably a disgrace...

Training His Grace the swami than seems a alternative, but iknow that its Sophia, who is giving out over six billion breakfasts daily
or contioniously according to maya. So the swami is in a game with those playing hungry or what ever, a disgrace again, but in which eyes? Please Oxymonad, donotget silly or confused, all is welll with your advanced probing.
(Devakas, we know Godhead keeps dreaming) (A1111- this dreaming is the most active radiationoutput, not this psychic
revaluation during REM-sleep, but like a invoke/evoke earthinheaven + heavenlyearth double-cones of real embracing
the very individualized heart to fuse the freqs into Loove emanations... So or so!)
Oxy rider, the mule can stand softness, discipline can be gentle like Jesus was -as well!



Indipendance day 2012-signal, all go at once - enlightment & divine solutions

DivineChildren, please never forget our Loove we brought into this quarantained realm  

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devakas wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:

devakas wrote:...And who teaches that we humans are not qualified to rule the world (galaxies in your case), to control others, to use others to fight others. When we do not discipline ourselves we try to discipline something else, Kony 2012, galaxies. This is the problem.

Who does teach that humans are not qualified to rule their home? Why 'galaxies' in my case? arn't you try to be admin?

Even Thrive movement would be successful if people would BELIEVE in GOD and TRUST in GOD. If they would teach kids not to center theyr personalities, destroy the self centeredness, if each would do their work to perfect their duties, to perfect their work what they like to do- only this is right work, if they would be taught God energies and if they would celebrate God's name, Him would arrange the nicest environment for all. When people with duties, would be transparent and perfect in their duties, all weak would be supported and protected.

Believe and Trust in which God? (by Name)

There is only one no second. You can call it cabage as you like as soon as you talk  about that He is creator and maintainer of all spiritual and material worlds.  (many many universes) when people would be taught Who they are, that soul leaves the same as it enters living entity, that all material world is given by His mercy for our personal mental exercises most in rebelious to Him, that all material world has temporarity and ignorance, only then people would DO RIGHT thing to serve God and follow His instructions.

Is God a Male? (specific source) Where are God's Instructions found? (specifically) You can think male, as his potencies as female, but we are talking in this material world, about bodies right? You are real? yes?  He is real too. God can take form any. And can have children as many as He wants. Source? I should see that you are sitting not to fall....

Btw today teacher His Holiness Radhanath Swami will be in Laguna. :cheers:He has no credit card or salary, but he feeds tens of thousand people everyday AS he is doing Right thing, He believes in God and God helps him. Any comparison with any other??   Tree should be judged by its fruits, isn't it? Namaste

Does the term 'His Holiness' imply 'Divinity'? At what point does a name become blasphemous? Should the Pope be referred to as 'Your Holiness' or as 'The Holy Father'? Should high-ranking Anglicans be referred to as 'The Very Reverend'? What does it really mean to 'Take God's Name in Vain'?

Namaste.

you are too angry. angry means you feel lack of respect.

devakas

Aquaries1111 wrote: Oxy,

Come on now... I Love You...

Floyd wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:
Jesus Christ!!! Check this out!!! http://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-night/features/article/-/10276027/inside-australias-chilling-new-cult/

Cult experts have warned that a 47-year-old Queensland man and self-proclaimed “Jesus” is in the early stages of developing a dangerous religious sect comparable to WACO, which ended in mass-suicide, Channel 7’s Sunday Night has reported.

Jesus, sorry, Mr Miller is another in a long line of leaders with a 'messiah syndrome', whether driven by deceit that has fed the lie til he has convinced even himself, or delusion of some psychological or psychiatric nature. Whether they be Christian cults, UFO cults or some channeling cult or other they all have at their head a personage such as Mr Miller who is a channeler/ medium (who has had conversations with Ramtha. In many ways David Wilcock is a cult leader)and ex Jehovah Witness (known for the false prophecy. Women are flocking to him, and cult leadership has often provided a good platform to get laid on a regular basis.

Id love to know how many Jesus Christs there are at the moment. Quite a few probably

People are drawn to his cult via a self help, course called Alpha Dynamics which doesn't mention him to the end.

His cult reminds me of some of the earlier ones from the 70's in the States like the Children of God (now The Family).

Cheques made to his cause (which is basically a property portfolio), are not made out to Mr Jesus H Christ but to Mr J Miller.

That says it all really.

Aquaries1111 wrote:

How gentle was the breeze
That Surrounded the way
How loud the sea's roar on the four
Winds everyday

Sharing love, wounded gifts from
Ancient long ago
Together they closed in the circles we know

Will we treasure all the secrets with life's changing scenes
Where our hearts were warm with love
So much love

Will the flowers grow again as I open Out my hand
Precious time Time for healing
The beauty of this land (2x)

We will treasure all the secrets with life's changing scenes
Where our hearts were warm with love
So much love

Will the flowers grow again as I open
Out my hand

Precious time

Time for healing
The beauty of this land

How soulful those words that confuses the way

How wild the mountains stare as they guard our everyday
Take for granted noble hearts in the golden

Age that's flown

Between us recall on a strong road
We've known

Eartheart wrote:strawberry fieldsforver???

mudra wrote:

The Alien Races Book


Love Always
mudra

B.B.Baghor wrote:Great find, thank you mudra   The Russian book is apparently meant to be used as an instruction manual. Like a Galactic tourist guide, for sightseeing routes and learning the ropes in engagement with the locals Some are creepy!! I've noticed rumors in tubby land, that Russia's Putin has challenged the US to disclose ET existence. Otherwise, they will take it upon them to reveal that truth. That's what's been in the air for some time, I presume. Here's what I found while googling on Dante Santorini:

A link to the website with the tubby/book, referred to in the former post by Dante Santorini:
http://article.wn.com/view/2014/03/08/Russian_Secret_Alien_Races_Book_PDF_download/

A link to the book published as a pdf document Alien Races Book
https://www.scribd.com/doc/245691536/Alien-Races-Book

Here's an interesting page 112 from the Secret Alien Races Book (184 pages)

Seashore wrote:I thought Dante Santori sounded very credible in the interview. But I'm very curious about the person interviewing him.  I've been searching and I can't even find the name.  Is he anonymous?

Seashore wrote:In the interview Santori says to search "1santori" or "azazel8867" for his YouTube channel.  When I do that, it only brings up other YouTuber's channels evidently posting his work.  So I don't know what to make of that. There is, however, a YouTube channel "Dante Santori" who joined Oct 25, 2014:

REALITY is a PRISON...are you ready to escape ?

Cheers

Dante

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9e1SwPu3F2hdyPtV04VAFg
http://en.calameo.com/read/003261369f3a4ebfdbffb
https://plus.google.com/111264655183555122117
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu7a939Fp48PDbEjw6pFndg/about

If you click on the calameo.com link, it will take you to a user-friendly copy of the book, which I guess is genuine?

Seashore wrote:

Seashore wrote:

http://en.calameo.com/read/003261369f3a4ebfdbffb

Here is a screenshot from the book showing the race I'm most interested in:

Seashore wrote:

Here is another interesting screenshot:

mudra wrote:

5 of the strangest skulls ever discovered

These unusual skulls were turned up by the excavation of a burial mound in Bradford County, Pennsylvania in the late 1800s. The three researchers overseeing the dig were stumped when instead of 13th century Native American remains, the burial mound revealed what looked like demon skulls.Besides the horns growing out of the foreheads, the skeletons had another intriguing feature: they were seven feet tall!

Could these skeletons be the remains of an ancient race of giants that inhabited North America thousands of years ago? Some have drawn parallels between this discovery and the mysterious Mound Builder civilization from prehistoric times. A number of megalithic structures have been attributed to this elusive civilization and some researchers claim evidence points toward the Shining Ones or Nephilim.

The remains were sent to the Philadelphia Museum and have since disappeared, eliminating the possibility of a thorough analysis.

read on: http://worldtruth.tv/5-of-the-strangest-skulls-ever-discovered/

Love Always
mudra

Seashore wrote:One of the sources of my research is Stewart Swerdlow, who says this on his website:

His great-uncle, Yakov Sverdlov, was the first president of the Soviet Union, and his grandfather helped form the Communist Party in the United States in the 1930s. To ensure that his loyalties stayed with the US government, he was “recruited” for specific government mind-control experiments, including 13 years at the Montauk Project, which enhanced his natural abilities.

http://www.expansions.com/about/

I have heard Stewart say that it was his great-uncle who ordered the assassination of the czar and his family.  Maybe he took the order from an alien.

Aquaries1111 wrote:

Hi Oxy,

Miss you.. I came across a music video I thought you would appreciate.. Hope you enjoy..

Debra



Ten years before I saw lhe light of morning
A comradeship of heroes was laid.
From every corner of the world came sailing
The Fifteenth Inlernational Brigade.

They came to stand beside the Spanish people.
To try and stem the rising Fascist tide
Franco's allies were the powerful and wealthy,
Frank Ryan's men came from the other side.

Even the olives were bleeding
As the battle for Madrid it thundered on.
Truth and love against the force af evil,
Brotherhood against the Fascist clan.

Vive La Quince Brigada!
"NO PASARAN" the pledge that made them fight.
"ADELANTE" was the cry around the hillside.
Let us all remember them tonight.

Bob Hillard was a Church of Ireland pastor;
From Killarney across the Pyrenees ho came.
From Derry came a brave young Christian Brother.
Side by side they fought and died in Spain.

Tommy Woods, aged seventeen, died in Cordoba.
With Na Fianna he learned to hold his gun.
From Dublin to the Villa del Rio
Where he fought and died beneath the Spanish sun.

Many Irishmen heard the call of Franco.
Joined Hitler and Mussolini too.
Propaganda from the pulpit and newspapers
Helped O'Duffy to enlist his crew.

The word came from Maynooth: 'Support the Fascists.'
The men of cloth failed yet again
When the bishops blessed the blueshirts in Dun Laoghaire
As they sailed beneath the swastika to Spain.

Ancient Egypt: The Light of the World

A Work of Reclamation and Restitution in Twelve Books by Gerald Massey

London
T.Fisher Unwin
Adelphi Terrace
Published in 1907

EDITION LIMITED TO FIVE HUNDRED COPIES

AUTHOR OF "A BOOK OF THE BEGINNINGS" and "THE NATURAL GENESIS"

It mav have been a Million years ago
The Light was kindled in the Old Dark Land
Withi which the illumined Scrolls are all aglow,
That Egypt gave us with her mummied hand :
This was the secret of that subtle smile
Inscrutable upon the Sphinx's face,
Now told from sea to sea, from isle to isle ;
The revelation of the Old Dark Race ;
Theirs was the wisdom of the Bee and Bird,
Ant, Tortoise, Beaver, working human-wise ;
The ancient darkness spake with Egypt's Word ;
Hers was the primal message of the skies:
The Heavens are telling nightly of her glory,
And for all time Earth echoes her great story.

PREFATORY

I have written other books, but this I look on as the exceptional labour which has made my life worth
living. Comparatively speaking, " A Book of the Beginnings" (London, 1881) was written in the dark, "The
Natural Genesis" (London, 1883) was written in the twilight, whereas" Ancient Egypt" has been written in
the light of day. The earlier books were met in England with the truly orthodox conspiracy of silence.
Nevertheless, four thousand volumes have got into circulation somewhere or other up and down tlte
reading world, where they are slowly working in their unacknowledged way. Probably the present book
will be appraised at home in proportion as it comes back piecemeal from abroad, from Germany, or
France, or maybe from the Country of the Rising Sun.

To all dear lovers of the truth the writer now commends the verifiable truths that wait for recognition in
these pages.

Truth is all-potent with its silent power
If only whispered, never heard aloud,
But working secretly, almost unseen,
Save in some excommunicated Book;
'Tis as the lightning with its errand done
Before you hear the thunder.

For myself, it is enough to know that in despite of many hindrances from straitened circumstances,
chronic ailments, and the deepening shadows of encroaching age, my book is printed, and the subjectmatter
that I cared for most is now entrusted safely to the keeping of John Gutenberg, on this my nineand-
seventieth birthday.

CONTENTS VOL. I and 2 Page
Number
Size
in K
Pages
(Approx.)
ANCIENT EGYPT- The Light of the World
Introduction PREFATORY Roman 23 4
BOOK 1 SIGN-LANGUAGE AND MYTHOLOGY AS PRIMITIVE
MODES OF REPRESENTATION 1 172 39
Book 2 TOTEMISM, TATTOO AND FETISHISM AS FORMS OF
SIGN-LANGUAGE 46 579 60
BOOK 3 ELEMENTAL AND ANCESTRAL SPIRITS, OR THE GODS
AND THE GLORIFIED 120 256 53
BOOK 4 EGYPTIAN BOOK OF THE DEAD AND THE MYSTERIES
OF AMENTA 186 473 51
BOOK 5
THE SIGN-LANGUAGE OF ASTRONOMICAL
MYTHOLOGY
-The Primitive African Paradise 249 868 88
- Egyptian Wisdom 269
-The Drowning of the Dragon 287
BOOK 6
THE SIGN-LANGUAGE OF ASTRONOMICAL
MYTHOLOGY (PART II) 321
472 95
-Horus of the Double Horizon 332
-The Making of Amenta 344
-The Irish Amenta 366
-The Mount of Glory 376
BOOK 7 EGYPTIAN WISDOM AND THE HEBREW GENESIS 398 996 88
BOOK 8 THE EGYPTIAN WISDOM IN OTHER JEWISH WRITINGS 470
BOOK 9 THE ARK, THE DELUGE, AND THE WORLD’S GREAT
YEAR 544-627 294
BOOK 10 THE EXODUS FROM EGYPT AND THE DESERT OF
AMENTA 628-688 222
BOOK 11 EGYPTIAN WISDOM IN THE REVELATION OF JOHN THE
DIVINE 689-725 135

Book 12 THE JESUS-LEGEND TRACED IN EGYPT FOR TEN
THOUSAND YEARS 726-804 285
APPENDIX 905-

LIST OF ILLUSTRATIONS - Volume -1-
ANCIENT EGYPT- The Light of the World
Book
No. Page
No.:
1 APT, THE FIRST GREAT MOTHER 124
1 THE MUMMY-BABE 219
3 ILLUSTRATION FROM A THEBAN TOMB 289
4 HIPPOPOTAMUS AND HAUNCH 311
5 SHU THE KNEELER 315
6 HORUS STRANGLING SERPENTS 317
7 HORUS IN PISCES 343
8 HORUS THE SHOOT OF THE PAPYRUS 450
9 ASSYRIAN CYLINDER 453
10 THE FLAMING SWORD WHICH GUARDED THE TREE 455
11 HORUS BRUISING THE SERPENT'S HEAD . 462

VOLUME 1
BOOK 1 of 12

SIGN-LANGUAGE AND MYTHOLOGY AS PRIMITIVE MODES OF REPRESENTATION

THE other day a lad from London who had been taken to the sea-side for the first time in his life was
standing with his mother looking at the rolling breakers tossing and tumbling in upon the sands, when he
was heard to exclaim, "Oh, mother, who is it chucking them heaps o" water about ?" This expression
showed the boy's ability to think of the power that was " doing it" in the human likeness. But, then,
ignorant as he might be, he was more or less the heir to human faculty as it is manifested in all its
triumphs over external nature at the present time. Now, it has been and still is a prevalent and practically
universal assumption that the same mental standpoint might have been occupied by Primitive Man, and
a. like question asked in presence of the same or similar phenomena of physical nature. Nothing is more
common or more unquestioned than the inference that Primitive Man would or could have asked," Who is
doing it ?" and that the Who could have been personified in the human likeness. Indeed, it has become
an axiom with modern metaphysicians and a postulate of the Anthropologists that, from the beginning,
man imposed his own human image upon external nature; that he personified its elemental energies and
fierce physical forces after his own likeness; also that this was in accordance with the fundamental
character and constitution of the human mind. To adduce a few examples taken almost at random: -
David Hume declares that " there is a universal tendency among mankind to conceive all beings like
themselves". In support of which he instances the seeing of human faces in the moon. Reid on the Active
Powers (4th Essay) says our first thoughts are that "the objects in which we perceive motion have
understanding and power as we have". Francis Bacon had long before remarked that we human beings
"set stamps and seals of our own images upon God's creatures and works". (Exp. History) Herbert
Spencer argued that human personality applied to the powers of nature was the primary mode of
representation, and that the identification of this with some natural force or object is due to identity of
name. (Data of Sociology, chapter xxiv, 184.) "In early philosophy throughout the world", says Mr. Tylor,
"the [Page2} sun and moon are alive and as it were human in their nature". Professor Max Müeller, who
taught that Mythology was a disease of language, and that the Myths have been made out of words
which had lost their senses, asserts that "the whole animal world has been conceived as a copy of our
own. And not only the animal world, but the whole of nature was liable to be conceived and named by an
assimilation to human nature". (Science of Thought, page 503.) And "such was the propensity in the
earliest men of whom we have any authentic record to see personal agency in everything", that it could
not be otherwise, for "there was really no way of conceiving or naming anything objective except after the
similitude of the subjective, or of ourselves". (Science of Thought, page 495.) Illustrations of this modern
position might be indefinitely multiplied. The assumption has been supported by a consensus of
assertion, and here, as elsewhere, the present writer is compelled to doubt, deny, and disprove the
popular postulate of the accepted orthodox authorities.
That, said the lion, is your version of the story: let us be the sculptor's , and for one lion under the feet of
a man you shall see a dozen men beneath the pad of one lion.
"Myth-making Man" did not create the Gods in his own image. The primary divinities of Egypt, such as
Sut, Sebek, and Shu, three of the earliest, were represented in the likeness of the Hippopotamus, the
Crocodile, and the Lion; whilst Hapi was imaged as an Ape, Anup - as a Jackal, Ptah as a Beetle, Taht as
an Ibis, Seb as a Goose. So was it with the Goddesses. They are the likenesses of powers that were

super-human, not human. Hence Apt was imaged as a Water-cow, Hekat as a Frog, Tefnut as a Lioness,
Serkh as a Scorpion,. Rannut as a Serpent, Hathor as a Fruit-tree. A huge mistake has hitherto been
made in assuming that the Myth-Makers began by fashioning the Nature-Powers in their own human
likeness. Totemism was formulated by myth-making man with types that were the very opposite of
human, and in mythology the Anthropomorphic representation was preceded by the whole menagerie of
Totemic Zootypes.

The idea of Force, for instance, was not derived from the thews and muscles of a Man. As the Karaite
Sign-Language shows, the Force that was "chucking them heaps of water about" was perceived to be
the wind; the Spirit that moved upon the face of the waters from the beginning. This power was divinised
in Shu, the God of breathing Force, whose zootype is the Lion as a fitting figure of this panting Power of
the Air. The element audible in the howling wind, but dimly apprehended otherwise, was given shape and
substance as the roaring Lion in this substitution of similars. The Force of the element was equated by
the power of the Animal; and no human thews and sinews could compare with those of the Lion as a
figure of Force. Thus the Lion speaks for itself, in the language of Ideographic Signs. And in this way the
Gods and Goddesses of ancient Egypt were at first portrayed as Superhuman Powers by means of living
Superhuman types.

If primitive man had projected the shadow of himself upon external nature, to shape its elemental forces
in his own image, or if the un-featured Vast had unveiled to him any likeness of the human face, [Page 3]
then the primary representation of the Nature-Powers (which became the later divinities) ought to have
been anthropomorphic, and the likeness reflected in the mirror of the most ancient mythologies should
have been human. Whereas the Powers and Divinities were first represented by animals, birds, and
reptiles, or, to employ a word that includes all classes, they were portrayed by means of zootypes. The
Sun and Moon were not considered "human in their nature" when the one was imaged as a Crocodile, a
Lion, a Bull, a Beetle, or a Hawk, and the other as a Hare, a Frog, an Ape, or an Ibis, as they are
represented in the Egyptian hieroglyphics by means of the zootypes. Until Har-Ur, the Elder Horus, had
been depicted as the Child in place of the Calf or Lamb, the Fish, or Shoot of the Papyrus-plant (which
was comparatively late), there was no human figure personalised in the Mythology of Egypt.
Primitive or paleolithic Man was too beggarly poor in possessions to dream of shaping the Superhuman
Powers of Nature in the human likeness. There is one all-sufficient reason why he did not; he simply
could not. And it is precisely because the Makers of the Myths had not the power to animate the universe
in their own likeness that we have the zoomorphic mode of representation as the Sign-Language of
Totemism and Mythology. On every line of research we discover that the representation of nature was
pre-anthropomorphic at first, as we see on going back far enough, and on every line of descent the
zoomorphic passes ultimately into the human representation. Modern metaphysicians have so developed
the faculty of abstraction and the disease of Subjectivity that their own mental operations offer no true
guidance for generalisations concerning primitive or early man, who thought in things and almost
apprehended with the physical sense-alone.

They overlook the fact that imaging by means of object-pictures preceded the imagining so often
ascribed to primitive men. These did not busy themselves and bother their brains with all sorts of vagrant
fancies instead of getting an actual grasp of the homeliest facts. It was not "Primitive Man" but two
German metaphysicians who were looking out of window at a falling shower of rain when one of them
remarked, "Perhaps it is I who am doing that" "Or /," chimed in the other.

The present writer once had a cat before whom he placed a sheet of polished tin. The cat saw herself
reflected as in a mirror, and looked for a short time at her own image. So far as sight and appearance
went, this might have been another cat. But she proceeded to apply the comparative process and test
one sense by another, deliberately smelling at the likeness to find out if any cat was there. She did not sit
down as a non-verifying visionary to formulate hypotheses or conjure up the ghost of a cat. Her sense of
smell told her that as a matter of fact there was no other cat present; therefore she was not to be misled
by a false appearance, in which she took no further interest. That, we may infer, was more like the action
of Primitive Man, who would find no human likeness behind the phenomena of external nature. Indeed,
man was so generally represented by the animals that the appearance could be mistaken for a primitive
belief that the animals were his ancestors. But the powers [Page 4] first perceived in external nature were
not only unlike the human; they were very emphatically and distinctly more than human, and therefore
could not be adequately expressed by features recognizable as merely human. Primitive men were all
too abjectly helpless in presence of these powers to think of them or to conceive them in their own
similitude. The one primordial and most definite fact of the whole matter was the distinct and absolute
unlikeness to themselves. Also they themselves were too little the cause of anything by the work of their
own hands to enter into the sphere of causation mentally. They could only apprehend the nature-forces
by their effects, and try to represent these by means of other powers that were present in nature, but
which were also necessarily superior to the human and were not the human faculties indefinitely
magnified. The human being could only impress his own image on external nature in proportion to his
mastery over natural conditions. He could not have figured the Thunder-bolt as a Stone-axe in the hands
of a destroying Power until he himself had made and could wield the axe of stone as the weapon of his
own power. But he could think of it in the likeness of the Serpent already known to him in external nature
as a figure of fatal force.

An ignorant explanation of the Egyptian Sign-Language was begun by the Greeks, who could not read
the hieroglyphics. It was repeated by the Romans, and has been perpetuated by "Classical Scholars"
ever since. But, as the interpreter of Egypt, that kind of scholastic knowledge is entirely obsolete.
Ignorance of primitive sign-language has been and is a fertile source of false belief. For example,
Juvenal asks, " Who does not know what kind of monsters Egypt insanely worships?" (Sat. 15.1.) And
having seen or heard of the long-tailed Ape in an Egyptian temple, the satirist assumed without question
that this animal was set up as an object of worship. He did not know that the Ape itself was the
worshipper, as an image in Sign-Language and as the Saluter of the Gods. Ani, the name of this
particular Ape, denotes the Saluter, and to salute was an Egyptian gesture of adoration. The Ape or
Cynocephalus with its paws uplifted is the typical worshipper as Saluter of the Light. It was, and still is,
looked upon in Africa generally as a pre-human Moon-worshipper, who laments and bewails the
disappearance of its night-light and rejoices at the renewal and return of that luminary. (Hor-Apollo, B. i,
14. Also Captain Burton, in a letter to the author.) In the Vignettes to the Ritual, Ani the Ape is the Saluter
of the rising Sun, that is of Ra, upon the Mount of Sunrise. One of the most profound perversions of the
past has been made in misapprehending this primitive sign-language for what is designated "Worship",
whether as "Sun-Worship", "Serpent-Worship", "Tree-Worship", or "Phallic-Worship". The Tree, for
example, is a type, but the type is not necessarily an object of worship, as misunderstood by those who
do not read the types when these are rooted in the ground of natural fact. The forest-folk were dwellers in
the trees, or in the bush. The tree that gave them food and shelter grew to be an object of regard. Hence
it became a type of the Mother-Earth as the birthplace and abode. Hence Hathor was the hut or house of
Horus (Har) in the tree. But worship is a word of cant employed by writers who are [Page 5] ignorant of
sign-language in general. Such phrases as "Stock-and-stone worship" explain nothing and are worse
than useless. The Mother and Child of all mythology are represented in the Tree and Branch. The Tree
was a type of the abode, the Roof-tree; the Mother of food and drink; the giver of life and shelter; the wet-

nurse in the dew or rain; the producer of her offspring as the branch and promise of periodic continuity.
Was it the Tree then the Egyptians worshipped, or the Giver of food and shelter in the Tree ? On the Apis
Stele in the Berlin Museum two priests are saluting the Apis-Bull. This is designated "Apis-worship". But
the Apis carries the Solar Disk betwixt its horns. This also is being saluted. Which then is the object of
worship ? There are two objects of religious regard, but neither is the object of adoration. That is the God
in spirit who was represented as the Soul of life in the Sun and in the Tree, also by the fecundating Bull.
In this and a thousand other instances it is not a question of worship but of sign-language.
Nor did Mythology spring from fifty or a hundred different sources, as frequently assumed. It is one as a
system of representation, one as a mould of thought, one as a mode of expression, and all its great
primordial types are virtually universal. Neither do the myths that were inherited and repeated for ages by
the later races of men afford any direct criterion to the intellectual status of such races. A mythical
representation may be savage without those who preserve it being savages. When the Egyptians in the
time of Unas speak of the deities devouring souls it is no proof of their being cannibals at the time.
Mythology has had an almost limitless descent. It was in a savage or crudely primitive state in the most
ancient Egypt, but the Egyptians who continued to repeat the Myths did not remain savages. The same
mythical mode of representing nature that was probably extant in Africa 100,000 years ago survives today
amongst races who are no longer the producers of the Myths and Marchën than they are of
language itself. Egyptian mythology is the oldest in the world, and it did not begin as an explanation of
natural phenomena, but as a representation by such primitive means as were available at the time. It
does not explain that the Sun is a Hawk or the Moon a Cat, or the solar God a Crocodile. Such figures of
fact belong to the symbolical mode of rendering in the language of animals or zootypes. No better
definition of "Myth" or Mythology could be given than is conveyed by the word "Sem" in Egyptian. This
signifies representation on the ground of likeness. Mythology, then, is "representation on the ground of
likeness", which led to all the forms of sign-language that could ever be employed. The matter has been
touched upon in previous volumes, but for the purpose of completeness it has to be demonstrated in the
present work that external nature was primarily imaged in the pre-human likeness. It was the same here
as in external nature: the animals came first, and the predecessors of Man are primary in Sign-
Language, Mythology, and Totemism.

It is quite certain that if the primitive method had been Conceptual and early man had possessed the
power to impose the likeness of human personality upon external phenomena it would have been in the
image of the Male, as a type or in the types of power; whereas the primal human personification is in the
likeness of the female. [Page 6]The great Mother as the primal Parent is a Universal type. There could be
no divine Father in Heaven until the fatherhood was individualized on earth. Again, if primitive men had
been able to impose the human likeness on the Mother-Nature the typical Wet-nurse would have been a
woman. But it is not so; the Woman comes last She was preceded by the Beast itself, the Sow, the
Hippopotamus, or Lioness, and by the female form that wears the head of the Zootype, the Cow, Frog or
Serpent, on the body of a divinity. Moreover, the human likeness would, of necessity, have included Sex.
But the earliest powers recognised in nature are represented as being of no Sex. It is said in the
Akkadian hymns, "Female they are not, male they are not" Therefore they were not imaged in the human
likeness. The elements of air, earth, water, fire, darkness and light are of no sex, and the powers first
recognised in them, whether as destructive or beneficent, are consequently without sex. So far from
Nature having been conceived or imaged as a non-natural Man in a Mask, with features more or less
human, however hugely magnified, the mask of human personality was the latest that was fitted to the
face of external nature. Masks were applied to the face of nature in the endeavour to feature and visibly
present some likeness of the operative elemental forces and manifesting powers of Air, Fire, Water, Earth

Aquaries1111 wrote:

Thanks Oxy,

Here's a few more for recommendations.

A Short History of the Bible ....... Bronson C Keeler

Ancient Egypt - The Light of the World .......Gerald Massey

Astral Worship ..... J. H. Hill

Astrological World Cycles ......... Tara Mata (Laurie Pratt)

Astrotheology & Shamanism - Christianity's Pagan Root.... Jan Irvin & Andrew Rutajit

Astro-Theology and Sidereal Mythology

Bible Myths and Parallels to Other Religions ....... Thomas W. Duane

Blacked Out through Whitewash ...... Suzar

Celestial Dynamics, A Course of Astro-Metaphysical Study

Celsus on the True Doctrine - A Discourse Against the Christians
..... R. Joseph Hoffman

Christ in Egypt - The Horus-Jesus Connection .... D.M. Murdock

Cicero - On the Nature of the Gods Academics .... H. Rackham

Dance of the Zodiac - Rhythms and Patterns of Creation ..... William Schreib (read review)

God Save Us from Religion ...... Ian Ross Vayro

Hermetic Masonry ....... Frank C. Higgins

Hesiod and Theognis ....... Dorothea Wender

Jesus and the Lost Goddess - The Secret Teachings of the Original Christians
..... Timothy Freke & Peter Gandy

Julian's Against the Galileans ...... R. Joseph Hoffman

Lost Light - An Interpretation of Ancient Scriptures .... Alvin Boyd Kuhn

Lost Star of Myth and Time ..... Walter Cruttenden

Manilius Astronomica ...... G. P. Goold

Ovid Matamorphoses ...... Charles Martin

Pagan Origins of the Christ Myth ...... John G. Jackson

Plato - The Complete Works ....... John M. Cooper and D.S. Hutchinson

Plutarch Moralla Volume V ...... Frank Cole Babbitt

Porphyry's Against the Christians - The Literary Remains ....... R. Joseph Hoffman

Ruins or Meditations on the Revolutions of Empires and the Law of Nature
..... C. F. Volney

Stellar Theology & Masonic Astronomy ..... Robert Hewitt Brown

Suns of God Krishna, Buddha and Christ Unveiled
.... Acharya S (Author of the Christ Conspiracy)

Symbols, Sex and the Stars .... Ernest Busenbark, Jordan Maxwell (Preface)

Terabiblos ..... Claudiun Ptolemy

That Old-Time Religion - The Story of Religious Foundations
.... Jordan Maxwell, Paul Tice and Alan Snow

The Astrological Foundation of the Christ Myth - Book 1 ... Malik H Jabbar

The Astrological Foundation of the Christ Myth - Book 2 ... Malik H Jabbar

The Astrological Foundation of the Christ Myth - Book 3 ... Malik H Jabbar

The Astrological Foundation of the Christ Myth - Book 4 ... Malik H Jabbar

The Bible Fraud .... Tony Bushby

The Biggest Lie Ever Told ...... Malik H Jabbar

The Book Your Church Doesn't Want You to Read ...... Tim C. Leedom

The Christ Conspiracy - The Greatest Story Ever Sold
.... Acharya S (Author of the Christ Conspiracy)

The Christians as the Romans Saw them .... Robert Louis Wilken

The Crucifixion of Truth .... Tony Bushby

The Dark Side of Christian History .... Helen Ellerbe

The Devil's Pulpit ..... Rev. Robert Taylor
The Divine Pymander of Hermes Trismegistus ..... G.R.S. Mead
The Hermetica ..... Timothy Freke & Peter Gandy

The Historical Jesus and the Mythical Christ - Separating Fact from Fiction
.... Gerald Massey

The Jesus Mysteries - Was the Original Jesus a Pagan God
... Timothy Freke & Peter Gandy

The Laughing Jesus - Religious Lies and Gnostic Wisdom .. Timothy Freke & Peter Gandy

The Light of Egypt, The Science of the Soul and Stars ..... Thomas H. Burgoyne

The Occult Anatomy of Man and Occult Masonry ..... Manly P. Hall

The Papal Billions ..... Tony Bushby

The Phenomena and Diosemia of Aratus (1848) ..... Aratus John Lamb

The Red Sea is your Blood: The New Enlightenment ..... Alvin Boyd Kuhn

The Sacred Mushroom and The Cross ..... John M. Allegro

The Secret in the Bible ..... Tony Bushby

The Twin Deception ..... Tony Bushby

The Ultimate Canon of Knowledge ..... Alvin Boyd Kuhn
The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors - Christianity Before Christ ..... Kersey Graves

They Lied to Us in Sunday School ..... Ian Ross Vayro

Virgil - Ecologues, Georgics, Aeneid 1-6 ..... H. R. Fairclough, G.P. Goold

Who is the King of Glory? - A Study of the Christos Messiah Tradition ..... Alvin Boyd Kuhn

http://www.universaltruthschool.com/readlist.html

Raven wrote: Misguided ravings of NABS disinformants, pretending to reference historically valid information.

Some of those 'authors' claim Jesus is the sun and never existed as a person (astrotheology bunk aka Maxwell, Acharya,  Bonacci and co); others say he existed but was substituted (Seth channelings and Courtney Brown and co.) and most simply misidentify valid symbols and archetypes of mythology, say as from the Hermetica as some ego-serving denial of what might be threatening to their self-serving worldviews:

This will be my last comment on the misinformation and New Age BS.

Beware of the false messengers, readers of those forums! There is a new world on the horizon and it will be easy to fail the resonance tests of particular new energies perpetuating this new world in a change or transformation of certain elementals.

Raven in discernment

For example, the Bushby fairy tales:

The Bible Fraud by Tony Bushby has the inauthentic quote on the cover. That turns out to be thematic.Pope Leo X

Let's start with a summary of the plot:

Jesus married Mary Magdalene as well as two other women in his lifetime. Mary was a descendant of King Herod and Jesus was a descendant of a Celtic king named Lud. (I don't know how a Celtic managed to work his way to, and survive in, Jewish Palestine, where he'd stick out like the sorest thumb this side of Los Angeles.)

Jesus' line eventually fostered Constantine [15]. However, Jesus and a twin brother named Judas Khrestus (?!) were "conceived by rape or adultery" between a member of Herod's family and the Emperor Tiberius. [41] Some stories in the Gospels, like the Temple cleansing, are actually about Khrestus [67] and this Khrestus escaped a sentence of crucifixion imposed by Caligula in 37 by appealing to an "age-old tradition" that allowed him to have someone sub in for him [84].
Judas later went to India to learn things [90]. Jesus became a king of Britain named Cunobelinus [108] where he also joined a Druidic order [115] and acquired the name Bran the Blessed [117].
He was later captured by Rome in war [125] but escaped execution because of his connections with Roman aristocracy. He later went to Egypt to be initiated into mysteries [141] but sometime later was stoned to death [153].

Clues for this whole story can be found in all sorts of places ranging from conveniently inaccessible manuscripts to statues in France and even in the works of Shakespeare. Unfortunately, much of what would prove this has been burned by the church, and other things have been edited or interpolated to hide all this.
That's it. Now if you're still thinking this might have some credence, here's some particulars analyzed.

• Bushby thinks his book was predicted by Nostradamus [11].
  
  
• Many of his sources are -- conveniently -- "preserved in rare archival manuiscripts and difficult-to-find reference books." Among these sources are such items as the "Myvyean Manuscript" [18] in the British Museum. For some reason the only actual reference to this document anywhere online comes from references to Bushby.
  And little wonder why. Tekton Research Assistant "Punkish" won the Gold Star of his life with this one -- he lives in the UK, and was able to contact the British Museum about this. His report:
  I wrote to the British Library (who now house the manuscript collection that used to be kept at the British Museum) about this "Myvyean manuscript" and the official reply from Michael St.John-McAlister, the Curator of the Dept. of Manuscripts is this:
  
  "I am afraid that I can find no reference to such a manuscript in our collections. We receive many similar enquiries relating to subject matter such as this and I have to say many of them are hoaxes or refer to non-existent manuscripts."
  
  So much for Bushby as a credible source on alleged mystery documents.
  
  
• In addition, because many people will disagree with his book, Bushby will "not engage in written religious argument with readers" who disagree. [12]
  The words "non sequitur" spring to mind.
  
  
• Sir Francis Bacon edited the KJV [20]. Now this is an idea you do see offered up on some websites, but not one of them I have found to be of any academic bent. The source Bushby gives is by an author named Alfred Dodd who wrote some rather peculiar books like Shakespeare: Creator of Freemasonry. (He also appeals to "original documents" in the British museum that allegedly prove this, but are conveniently unquoted and unreferenced otherwise.)
  
  The idea that Bacon had some part in the KJV is so outraegous that apparently not even the folks at Wikipedia are willing to let it stand.
  Bacon is also said to have edited the plays of Shakespeare and added secret messages....on that one, I'll refer to a lively discussion here by an academic source and a rather detailed discussion here by someone who passes the critical source test.
  
  
• Morton Smith is used as a source with his Secret Gospel of Mark and claim that a tombstone in Germany of a Roman soldier may have been that of Jesus' father [29].
  
  
• It's not quite The Da Vinci Code, but the Last Supper is used for an argument as it is claimed that one of the disicples (the fifth from the right of Jesus) looks like Jesus' twin, thus evidently showing Leonrado believed in Bushby's twin theory.
  From what I see of that painting, that's as much imagination as Dan Brown offers to make John a woman; it is an idea also found on some conspiracy-theory sites, but the resemblance is highly superficial and the alleged "twin" has a chin that juts out rather more than Jesus'.
  
  Michealangelo is also said to have endorsed this idea, as well as Raphael, but what Bushby takes for twin sons of Mary are always taken by credible art historians as the infants Jesus and John the Baptist. Bushby dismisses this by claiming that the boys are "identical" which is quite imaginative and clearly false:
  
  The hairstyles and color are entirely different; the chins do not match, and little John already has on his prophetic garment, while Jesus is the only one with a halo.
  
  
• Also in common with Dan Brown, Bushby makes use of the legendary Abbe' Sauniere [47] who allegedly became rich thanks to some secret documents he found in a hollow pillar in his church in France. Olson and Miesel say it all in their comments in The Da Vinci Hoax:
  [Suaniere] was in fact a simoniac priest whose wealth came from selling overbooked Masses until he was suspended by his bishop in 1911. The parchments were fake, the pillar was not hollow, and the tomb was not painted by Nicholas Poussin in his two works titled Et in Arcadia Ego. The so-called mystery was invented by a local restaurant owner in the 1950s to attract tourists." [237]
  
  
• "Old records" of unspecificed origin and nature tell us that the Pharisees were founded by a "Pharez" who "developed a school of Predestination" and the Sadducees by one "Sadoc" who was "a disciple of Antigonus Scohaeus" who had allegedly founded a "School of Infidels". [51]
  
  Needless to say this is a mix of fact and fiction. The name of the Pharisees comes from the word perushim, which means separatists. "Sadducees" is perhaps properly taken from a "Sadoc" -- one of Solomon's priests in the OT, whom they regarded as their ideological ancestor, if the derivation is correct -- others argue that it comes from a Greek word for "fiscal officials" but a connection to this alleged Antigonus is not one of the options scholars use.
  Of course there are no other references to this "School of Infidels" or this Antigonus online, expect from those copying Bushby.
  
  
• The Essenes are connected with the Druids of Gaul [523].
  
  
• Even if the quote from Julian is correct [57] it has the facts mangled; Paul, Matthew and Mark all equate Jesus with divine Wisdom.
  
  
• Bushby repeats Harpur's argument about KRST [58].
  
  
• Bushby claims he made clergy "squirm" by asking about where Jesus was called a glutton and a drunkard. Such names were simply stock rhetoric of the time; just as the the Pharisees were not actually vipers and hypocrites, and also whitewashed walls [64].
  
  
• The Gauls are the same people as those who lived in Galilee [75].
  
  
• A microcosm is offered of Remsberg's list [87].
  
  
• Bushby repeats an Anglo-Israelist argument I last saw used by Herbert Armstrong [99] that "British" combines the two Hebrew words for covenant (berit) and man (ish). More serious sources connect the name to that of a tribe of Picts, the Pritani. Also the home of Mary Magdalene, Dalmanutha [105], is in South Wales.
  
  
• Paul [134] at one point had to flee to Wales and there was protected. One source for this information is "an ancient manuscript in Merton College".
  
  
• Bushby uses the "Bacchus on the cross" gem of Freke and Gandy [197] -- yes, the one that's a forgery -- as well as offering all the usual copycat candidates (Mithra, Attis, etc.)
  
  

I really see no need to say more. The ideas Bushby propounds lend little credence to the rest of what he writes, though of course anyone who wishes to have me look into specific claims made by Bushby is welcome to request that I do so.

Someone else critiques Bushby here.
-JPH

Seashore wrote:

B.B.Baghor wrote: I hope your encounter with a Draco reptilian, if that's what you choose, will be peaceful, Seashore, possibly present in a more peaceful dimension too  

It would not be what I would choose. My interest in them is only because of my desire to join with my fellow humans in trying to understand what's wrong with us.  Why do we believe lies and why do we go along with wars.

orthodoxymoron wrote:What if we were all Absolutely-Obedient Reptilian-Warriors in Antiquity (Before We Became Human-Beings)?? What if we basically Genetically-Engineered Ourselves from Pre-Existing Life-Forms -- and then transferred our souls from Reptilian-Bodies to Human-Bodies?? I've been passively pursuing this hypothesis for several years now -- and it has become frighteningly-real to me. This theory might explain an Extremely Harsh Old-Testament and World-History. There might also be Soul--Body Incompatibility-Issues which have yet to be resolved. Plus -- the rest of the universe might hate our bodies and souls -- and we might be in conflict with them on levels we can't even imagine. I hope I'm wrong about most of this -- and I have attempted to model some of this sort of thing in a science-fictional format within this website.

Seashore wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:What if . . .

I would like to point out that there are infinite "what if's." It might be a good idea to focus on information that is check-able and building a better world in baby steps starting with the information rather than imagining this and that and worrying.

orthodoxymoron wrote:The first step in the Scientific-Method is to Propose a Hypothesis. Some of us wonder as we wander -- whether anyone appreciates it, or not. I'd frankly rather watch, and listen to, Katerina Chrobokova make the world a better place -- and perhaps I will. She always gives me something to think about...

Seashore wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:The first step in the Scientific-Method is to Propose a Hypothesis.

Yes, but to be useful, a hypothesis should have in its roots the observations of the scientist from real life and a purpose for pursuing it beyond intellectual entertainment with no practical application end-point in sight.

Seashore wrote:

B.B.Baghor wrote: I hope your encounter with a Draco reptilian, if that's what you choose, will be peaceful, Seashore, possibly present in a more peaceful dimension too  

It would not be what I would choose. My interest in them is only because of my desire to join with my fellow humans in trying to understand what's wrong with us.  Why do we believe lies and why do we go along with wars.

Aquaries1111 wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote: What do you think of the thread title 'Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System'? This title could be interpreted in several different ways -- couldn't it? I will remain somewhat ambiguous regarding my intended meaning. I will try to remain mostly silent in the comming weeks -- although I might post some images and text -- such as from the work of Gerald Massey (who I am not necessarily endorsing -- but who might be an important part of solving the nasty puzzle facing humanity (and other than human races?).

Wow Wee Oxy,

Amazing... I may just have to read the whole book.. The little you posted is excellent and ties in some things for me in my own mind.  Simply fascinating.. I'm still only on page 3 or so of this thread so as far as the new title you chose.. I'm sure it qualifies.. else you wouldn't have changed it.. I was a little miffed at first when I searched for Solar System and usually yours pops right up.. the change has changed its status to further down the line.. Maybe reverse it? The United States of the Solar System and Archangelic Queens of Heavens.. either way.. I'm happy this thread is continuing... Danka Danka.. Oh don't know if you noticed or not but 3 pages back or so I added a song to a posting of mine (yesterday).. in case you didn't see it.. I add it here for you.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6b9ZQAujwU&feature=related

Aquaries1111 wrote:Carol,

Can you please have my name removed from the thuben link just posted.. it is highly inappropriate again.. This is the second time I am asking to have my name removed, due to thuben posting it as I also asked the first time I signed on here..  

Kind Regards Carol

Ancient Egypt: The Light of the World by Gerald Massey (Continued)

power or soul in Nature before there was any representation of the human Soul or Ancestral Spirit in the
human form. Hence we are told that when twins are born the Batavians believe that one of the pair is a
crocodile. Mr. Spencer accepts the “belief” and asks, “May we not conclude that twins, of whom one
gained the name of crocodile, gave rise to the legend which originated this monstrous belief?” (Data of
Sociology, ch. 22, par. 175). But all such representations are mythical and are not to be explicated by the
theory of “monstrous belief.” It is a matter of Sign-Language. The Batavians knew as well as we do that
no crocodile was ever born twin along with a human child. In this instance the poor things were asserting
in their primitive way that Man is born with or as a Soul. This the gnosis enables us to prove. One of the
earliest types of the Sun as a Soul of life in the water is a Crocodile. We see the Mother who brings forth
a Crocodile when the Goddess Neith is portrayed in human shape as the suckler of the young crocodiles
hanging at her breasts. Neith is the wet-nurse personified whose child was the young sun-god. As Sebek
he was imaged by the Crocodile that emerged from the waters at sun-rise. Sebek was at once the child
and the crocodile brought forth by the Great Mother in the mythology. And because the Crocodile had
imaged a Soul of Life in water, as a superhuman power, it became a representative, in Sign-Language, of
the human soul. We see this same type of a Soul in external nature applied to the human Soul in the
Book of the Dead, when Osiris in the Nether World exclaims, “I am the crocodile in the form of a man,”
that is as a Soul of which the Crocodile had been a symbol, as Soul of the Sun. It was thus the Crocodile
was born with the Child, as a matter of sign-language, not as a belief. The crocodile is commonly
recognized by the Congo natives as a type of Soul. Miss Kingsley tells of a Witch-Doctor who
administered emetics to certain patients and brought away young crocodiles. She relates that a Witch-
Doctor had been opened after death, when a winged Lizard-like thing was found in his inside which
Batanga said was his power. The power being another name for his Soul.

Mr. Spencer not only argues for the actuality of these “beliefs” concerning natural facts, supposed to
have been held by primitive men and scientific Egyptians, which vanish with a true interpretation of the
mythical mode of representation, he further insists that there seems to be, “ample justification for the
belief that any kind of creature may be transformed into any other “ because of the metamorphosis
observed in the insect world, or elsewhere. From which there resulted “the theory of metamorphosis in
general” and the notion “that things of all kinds may suddenly change their forms,” man of course
included. (Data, ch. 8, par. 55). But there was no evidence throughout all nature to suggest that any kind
of creature could be transformed into any other kind. On the contrary, nature showed them that the frog
was a tadpole continued; that the chrysalis was the prior status of the butterfly, and that the old Moon
changed into a New. The transformation was visible and invariable, and the product of transformation
was always the same kind. There was no sign of suggestion of an unlimited possibility in metamorphosis.
Neither was there ever a race of savages who did think or believe (in words of Mr. Spencer) [Page 14]
”that any kind of creature may be transformed into any other,”no more than there ever were boys who
believed that any kind of bird could lay any other kind of bird’s egg. They are too good observers for any self-delusion as that.

Mythical representation did not begin with “stories of human adventure,” as Mr. Spencer puts it, nor with
human figures at all, but with phenomena of external nature, that were represented by means of animals,
birds, reptiles and insects, which had demonstrated the possession of superhuman faculties and powers.

The origin of various superstitions and customs seemingly insane can be traced to sign-language. In
many parts of England it is thought necessary to “tell the Bees” when a death has occurred in the house,
as to put the hives into mourning. The present writer has known the house-wife to sally forth into the
garden with warming-pan and key and strips of crape to “tell the Bees,” lest they should take flight, when
one of the inmates of the house died. We must seek an explanation for this in the symbolism of Egypt
that was carried forth orally to the ends of the earth. The Bee was anciently a zootype of the Soul which
was represented as issuing forth from the body in that form or under that type. There is a tradition that
Bees alone of all animals descended from Paradise. In the Engadine, Switzerland, it is said that the
Souls of men go forth from this world and return to it in the form of Bees. Virgil, in the Fourth Book of the
Georgics, celebrates the Bee that never dies, but ascends alive into heaven. That is the typical Bee
which has an image of the Soul. It was the Soul, as Bee, that alone ascended into heaven or descended
from thence. The Bee is certainly one form of the Egyptian Abait, or Bird-fly, which is a guide and pilot to
the Souls of the dead on their way to the fields of Aarru. It was a figure of Lower Egypt as the land of
honey, thence a fitting guide to the celestial fields of the Aarru-Paradise. It looks as if the name for the
Soul, Ba, in Egyptian, may be identical with our word Bee. Ba, is honey determined by the Bee-sign, and
Ba is also the Soul. The Egyptians made use of honey as a means of embalming the dead. Thus the
Bee, as a zootype of the Soul, became a messenger of the dead and a mode of communication with the
ancestral Spirits. Talking to the Bees in this language was like speaking with the Spirits of the dead, and,
as it were, commending the departed one to the guidance of the Bees, who as honey gatherers naturally
knew the way to the Elysian fields and the meads of Amaranth that flowed with milk and honey. The type
is confused with the Soul when the Bee is invoked as follows:– “almost as if requesting the Soul of the
departed to watch forever over the living”:–

“ Bienchen, unser Herr ist todt,
Verlass mich nicht in meiner Noth.”

(Gubernatis, Zoological Mythy., v. 2, page 218) In the Ritual the Abait (as Bee or Bird-fly) is the conductor
of Souls to the celestial fields. When the Deceased is asked who conducted him thither, he replies, “It
was the Abait-deity who conducted me.” He also exclaims. “Hail to thee, who fliest up to heaven to give
light to the stars.” (Ch. 76. Renouf). Here the Bee or Bird-fly is a Solar type, and that which represented
the ascending sun in the mythology [Page 15] became a type of the Soul in the eschatology. Thus the
inventor of honey in this world led the way to the fields of flowers in the next.

Modern popular superstition to a large extent is the ancient symbolism in its second childhood. Here is a
case in point. The XXXX having been a representative of Soul or Spirit, it is sure to be said that the
human Soul has entered the XXXX by a kind of re-incarnation. Hence we read a legacy left to a Fowl by a
wealthy lady named Silva, of Lisbon, who held that the Soul of her dead husband survived in a XXXX.
(Daily Mail, May 26th, 1892). So it has been with the zootypes of other elemental souls that were
continued for the human soul, from the Crocodile of the Batavians to the Red Mouse of the Germans.
Folk-lore is full of fables that originated in this language of signs.

The Jackal in the Egyptian representation is the guide of the Sun upon his pathway in Amenta, who takes
up the young child-Horus in his arms to carry him over the waters. In the Hottentot prototype the Jackal
finds the Sun in the form of a little child, and takes him upon his back to carry him. When the Sun grew
hot the Jackal shook himself and said “Get down.” But the Sun stuck fast and burnt the Jackal, so that he
has a long black stripe down his back to this day.(Bleek,Reynard,p.67). The same tale is told of the
Coyote or Prairie-dog, who takes the place of the jackal in the mythical legends of the Red Men. In the
Ritual the Jackal who carried Horus, the young Sun-god, had become the bearer and supporter of Souls.
In passing the place where the Dead fall into darkness, the Osiris says, “Apuat raiseth me up.” (Ch. 44)
And when the overwhelming waters of the Deluge burst forth, he rejoices, saying, “Anup is my bearer,”
(Rit. Ch. 64). Here as elsewhere, the mythical type extant with the earlier Africans had passed into the eschatology of the Egyptians.

The eternal contest betwixt the powers of light and darkness is also represented in the African folk-tales.
The Hare (or rabbit) Kalulu and the Dzimwi are two of the contending characters. The Hare, as in Egypt,
is typical of the Good Power, and no doubt is a zootype of the young up-springing Moon. The Dzimwi is
the Evil Power, like Apap, the Giant, the Ogre, the Swallower of the waters or the light.(Werner, “African
Folk-lore) Contemp. Rev. September, 1896). It is very cunning, but in the end is always outwitted by the
Hare. When the Dzimwi kills or swallows the Hare’s Mother it is the Dragon of darkness, or Eclipse,
devouring the Lunar light. The Moon-mythos is indefinitely older than the Solar, and the earliest slayer of
the Dragon was Lunar, the mother of the Young Child of Light. Here she is killed by the Dzimwi. Then
Kalulu comes with barbed arrow with which he pierces the Dzimwi through the heart. This is the battle of
Ra and Apap, or Horus and Sut, in the most primitive form, when as yet the powers were rendered nonanthropomorphically.
Again, the Monkey who is transformed into a man is a prototype of the Moon-god
Taht, who is a Dog-headed Ape in one character and a man in another. A young person refuses several
husbands. A Monkey then comes along. The beast takes the skin off his body, and is changed into a
Man. To judge [Page 16] from the Egyptian mythos, the young person was Lunar, and the Monkey
changing into a Man is Lunar likewise. One of the two won the Lady of Light in the Moon. This was the
Monkey that became a Man, as did the bear in “Beauty and the Beast.” In another tale obviously Luni-
Solar, that is with the Sun and Moon as the characters, a girl (that is the Moon) refused a husband (that
is the Sun). Thereupon she married a Lion; that is a Solar type. In other words, the Moon and Sun were
married in Amenta. This tale is told with primitive humor. When the wedded pair were going to bed she
would not undress unless he let her cut off his tail. For this remained un-metamorphosed when he
transformed into a Man. “When she found out that he was a lion, she ran away from that husband.” So in
a Hindu story a young woman refuses to marry the Sun because he is too fiery-hot. Even in the American
Negro stories of Brer Rabbit, Brer Fox, Brer Wolf, and Brer Terrapin the original characters of the typical
animals are still preserved as they were in the Egyptian mythology when divinised. The Turtle or Tortoise,
the wise and sagacious one, is the hider; the Fox, like the Jackal, Anup, is the cunning one. The Wolf is
the swallower, and the rabbit equates with the Hare, a type of the Good Osiris or of the African Kalulu.
Any number of current superstitions are the result of ignorance concerning the Ancient Wisdom, and one
of the worst results bequeathed to us by the past is to be found in our customs of cruelty to dumb
animals. These poor victims have had to suffer frightfully for the very service which they once rendered to
man as primitive types of expression in Sign-Language. In the Persian and Hebrew laws of Clean and
Unclean, many of the animals and birds that were once held sacred in Egypt for their symbolic value are
there condemned as unclean, to be cast out with curses; and so the real animals became the outcasts of
the mental world, according to the later religion, in the language of letters which followed and superseded
the carven hieroglyphics of the earlier time. The Ass has been a shameful sufferer from the part it played
in the primitive typology. Beating and kicking the ass used to be a Christian sport practised up and down
the aisles of Christian churches, the ass being a cast-out representative of an old Hebrew, and still older Egyptian deity.

The cat is another sufferer for the same reason. The cat sees by night, and was adopted as a type of the
Moon that saw by night and kept watch in the dark. Now, witches are seers and foreseers, and whenever
they were persecuted and hounded to death the cat suffered with them, because she had been the type
and symbol of preter-human sight. These were modes of casting out the ancient fetish-images initiated
and enforced by the priesthood of a later faith. In Egypt, as Hor-Apollo tells us, the figure of a mouse
signified a disappearance. Now, see how cruelly the little animal has been treated because it was a type
of disappearance. It was, and may be still, an English custom to charm away disease by making a hole in
the shrew-ash or witch-elm tree and shutting up a live shrew-mouse in it. In immuring the mouse in the
bole of the tree, the disappearing victim typified or [Page 17] enacted the desired disappearance of the
disease. That which had been a symbol in the past is now made use of alive in performing a symbolical action in the present.

Much misery has been caused to human beings as well as animals through the misapplication of certain
mythical, that is symbolical characters. Plutarch tells us how the evil Sut (or Typhon) was humiliated and
insulted by the Egyptians at certain festivals, “when they abuse red-haired men and tumble an ass down
a precipice because Typhon was red-haired and like an ass in complexion.” ( Ch. 30). The fact is also
notorious in Europe that an evil character has been commonly ascribed to red-haired persons, with no
known warrant whatever from nature. They suffer for the symbol. Now for the origin of the symbol,
according to the Egyptian Wisdom. Sut, the treacherous opponent of Horus (Osiris in the later mythos),
was the Egyptian Judas. He betrayed his brother to his enemies the Sebau. He was of red complexion.
Hence the Red Ass and the red-haired people were his types. But the complexion and red hair of Sut
were not derived from any human origin. Sut was painted red, yellowish, or sandy, as representative of
the desert. He was the original devil in the wilderness, the cause of drought, and the creator of thirst. As
the Hippopotamus, Sut, like Apt the Mother, was of a red complexion. As the betrayer of his brother
Osiris, Sut was brought on with the Jesus-legend in the character of Judas, the traitor; hence in the
Miracle-plays and out-of-door customs, Judas true to the Sut-Typhonian tradition, is always red-haired or
wears a red wig. Thus, in our pictures of the past the typical traitor still preserves his proper hue, but in
the belief of the ignorant the clue is lost and the red-haired people come to be the Viva Effigies of Sut,
the Egyptian Judas, as a human type of evil.

Folk-lore in many lands is the final fragmentary form in which the ancient wisdom – the Wisdom of old
Egypt – still survives as old wives’ fables, parables, riddles, allegorical sayings, and superstitious beliefs,
consecrated by the ignorance which has taken the place of primitive knowledge concerning the mythical
mode of representation; and from lack of the lost key, the writers on this subject have become the
sheerest tale-bearers whose gossip is full of scandal against primitive and ancient man. But not in any
land or language can the Märchen tell us anything directly concerning themselves. They have lost the
memory of their meaning. It is only in the Mythos that we can ascertain their original relationship to
natural fact and learn that the people who repeat the folk-tales were not always natural fools. It is only in
the Egyptian Wisdom that the key is to be found.

On of the most universal of the Folk-Tales which are the débris of Mythology is that of the Giant who had
no heart (or spark or soul) in his body. The Apap-Dragon, in Africa, was the first of all the Giants who has
no heart in his body, no root in reality, being as he is only the representation of non-existence, drought,
darkness, death and negation. To have no heart in the body is an Egyptian expression for lack of
understanding and want of nous. As it is said in the Anastasi Papyri of the Slave who is driven with a stick
and beaten like the Ass, “He has indeed no heart in his body.” It was this [Page 18] lack of intelligence that
made the Giant of the Märchen such a big blundering booby, readily out-witted by clever little Jack, Horus
or Petit Yorge, the youthful Solar God; and so easily cajoled by the fair princess of Lunar Lady who is
held a captive in his dungeon underground. In one of the Tartaro-Legends told in Basque the Hero fights
“a body without a soul.” When the monster is coming it is said of him “ he is about to come, this horrible
body without a soul.” In another tale the seven-headed serpent, Heren-Suge, bemoans his fate that he
hasn’t “a spark betwixt his head and tail”; if he had he would burn up Petit Yorge, his lady, his horse, and
his terrible dog. In this version the Monster is a serpent equivalent to the Apap-Reptile or Dragon of
drought and darkness, which in the Kamite mythos has no soul in its body, because it is an image of darkness and negation.

Most of the characters and localities, the scenery and imagery of these Märchen belong to the Egyptian
Mythos. The Lake is also African, as the typical great water of those who had never seen the Ocean. It
remained the same type with the Egyptians after they did know the Great Green Water of the
Mediterranean Sea. In such ways they have preserved their proofs of the Inner African beginnings with
an adamantine unchangeableness. The lake of the Goose or Duck is referred to in the Ritual. (Ch. 109)
The Sun was imaged as a Golden Egg laid by the Duck or Goose. The hill or island standing in the lake
is the Earth considered as a Mount of the Double Earth in the Kamite Eschatology. The Snake or Dragon
in the Lake, or coiling about the Mount or round the Tree, is the Apap-Reptile in the Water of Darkness
who coils about the Hill at Sunset (Rit. Ch., 108) or attacks the Tree of Life which is an image of the
Dawn, the Great Green Sycamore of Hathor. Earth itself was imaged as a Goose that rested on the Nun
or the Waters of Space. This was the ancient Mother Goose that every morning laid her Golden Egg. The
Sun sinking down into the underworld is described in the Ritual as “the Egg of the Great Cackler”: “ The
Egg which Seb hath parted from the earth.” (Rit., ch. 54) The Giant with no heart or Soul is a figure of
Darkness as the devouring Monster with no Sun (or Soul) in his body. Hence the heart or Soul that was
hidden in the Tree, or in the Egg of the Bird far away. The Sun is the Egg that was laid by the Goose of
Earth that brought forth the Golden Egg. This Soul of the Giant, Darkness, was not the personal soul of
any human being whatsoever, and the only link of relationship is when the same image of a Soul in the
Egg is applied to the Manes in the dark of death. The Soul of the Sun in the Egg is the Soul of Ra in the
underworld of Amenta; and when the Sun issues from the Egg (as a hawk) it is the death of Darkness the Monster.

Our forebears and forerunners were not so far beside themselves as to believe that if they had a Soul at
all, it was outside of their own bodies hidden somewhere in a tree, in a bird, in an egg, in a hare, in a
duck, a crocodile, or any other zootype that never was supposed to be the dwelling of the human Soul. In
the Basque story of Marlbrook the Monster is slain by being struck on the forehead with an egg that was
found in a Pigeon, that was found in a Fox, that was [Page 19] found in a terrible Wolf in a forest.
(Webster, p. 83). However represented, it was the Sun that caused the Monster’s death. So in the Norse
Tales the Troll or Ogre bursts at sight of dawn, because his death was in the Solar orb that is represented
by the Kamite Egg of the Goose. The Giant of darkness is inseparable from the young hero or the solar
God who rises from Amenta as his valiant conqueror. These being the two irreconcilable enemies, as
they are in the Ritual, it follows that the Princess who finally succeeds in obtaining the Giant’s secret
concerning the hiding place of his heart in the egg of a bird is the Lunar Lady in Amenta who, as Hathor,
was the Princess by name when she had become the daughter of Ra. She outwits the Apap, who is her
swallower at the time of the eclipse, and conveys the secret knowledge to the youthful solar hero who
overcomes the Giant by crushing his heart in the egg. In fighting with the Monster, the Basque Hero is
endowed with the faculty of transforming into a Hawk! The Hawk says to him – “When you wish to make
yourself a Hawk, you will say, “Jesus Hawk,” and you will be a Hawk.” The Hawk of Jesus takes the place
of the Horus-Hawk, just as the name of Malboro is substituted for that of the Hero who is elsewhere Petit
Yorge = Little Horus. (Webster, Basque Legends, p. 80-83) Horus, like the hero of these tales, is human
on earth, and he transforms into the Hawk when he goes to fight the Apap-Monster in Amenta. In the
Basque version the human hero transforms into a Hawk, or, as it is said, “the young Man made himself a
hawk,” just as the human Horus changed into the Golden Hawk: and then flew away with the Princess

Raven wrote:

Aquaries1111 wrote:I mean, I don't think Raven (Julienne Mastek) would like her name here would she?

Actually I dont mind, Debra Owlsden!

Raven

Aquaries1111 wrote:Fine Raven,

Please remove my name and insert with Aquaries1111.

Aquaries1111 wrote:

Carol wrote:

Owlsden wrote:I discovered the Mists through Shiloh (and would appreciate it if he would remove my legal name from one of his postings here on your site..)

No problem Owlsden.  You can PM me the link along with the post number and I will delete it for you.  

Aquaries1111 wrote:I ask that my Avatar Name be used only when referring to me.. (A1 is fine too)  

Aquaries1111 wrote:I can't imagine it feels anything like the "True Bliss"... Every cell in the body bursts open in ecstacy all at the same time.

Aquaries1111 wrote: I suppose it goes hand in hand with this video

I had to cut the video after 5 mins and 30 seconds...



http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/108340/NAZI_Jesuit_vatican_financed_Occult/

Aquaries1111 wrote:I think the entire planet should be privvy to this thread of yours Oxy.. It's truly a gem.. Indeed.

Dr. Ronald Nash (www.biblicaltraining.org) lays down the philosophical groundwork for Reformed Epistemology: The theory of knowledge that grants warrant to the theist's foundational belief in God and renders him invulnerable to challenges for providing evidence for God's existence.

Nash unpacks salient contemporary arguments in support of the thesis as formulated by Alvin Plantinga, its most prominent advocate.

Lecture Outline [total duration: 24:44 minutes (3 parts)]

Introduction. Is it necessary to prove the existence of God?

A. Debate between Alvin Plantinga and Antony Flew
B. Evidentialist Challenge

I. Background
A. Innate Ideas
B. Thomas Reid
C. Belief Dispositions [1. External World; 2. Other Minds; 3. Memory Beliefs]
D. Alvin Plantinga

II. Evidentialism - Three Premises
A. It is irrational to accept theistic belief in the absence of sufficient evidence.
B. There is insufficient evidence to support belief in God.
C. Therefore, belief in God is irrational.

III. Plantinga's Rejection of Evidentialism
A. Fatal Flaw #1 - Belief dispositions
B. Fatal Flaw #2 - Self-defeating thesis

I do not necessarily endorse the teachings of Dr. Nash.. I do respect his beliefs...

Eartheart wrote: uff & Yeah! Stuff & Yooh! Orthodoxymoron, you made my morning dude, i had several symtoms after checking back on your famous thread to the illusory... And some inner joy, which came in widening intervalls back around. And yeah, i wrote this yeaterday after reading your "independanceday report"... While most of our friends pulled the trigger on their dependencies, hiding in the woods or save coven and grasping after the stars to hold themself in space, i realize my interdependance and lock onto the prescribed drama, go where the heat is and wack the MF into oblivion.

I mean i X-change with gusto this overcrowded Christ Office with a selfcreated HQ ofthe United States of the Solar System, having just turned around all the dangerous weaponry used against "We the devkids" to realign perspective and outcome of that inherent confrontations. So get back with your Dream-Team of Philadelphia Lawyers (lucky you wont need to talk to the chicago ones-hahah!), present us in the Spirit of Tripple-C for Constitiutions, stay in a coherent mood pl., so like fathers prethought and mothers intuitive remembrances. The cosmic shakti, even the divine one riding the photonic bowshock is unity in allembracing intelligences, she will cling to our visionary allfrequency output (till it is replaced with an further modelation!!!), creation accomodates real worx. Congrats!

This friendly Namaste great architecture of yours wakes allready all builders in their graves, countless renegades perished to juice up our ideological fusion generators, which lift our new real out of the earth. it will pass through the whole pyramid of established morons and pass even the 34-level of intimacy with the secret doctrine. Aswe can give straight answers, we cant gostraight ways! So lets commune the spiralized souls here in the Mists and get an ultradim mycel to grow into the mastercell, the omni-space which defies zero-space and complements the void with wholeness again. By the way thanx for the tube-showtimes, it helps to comprehend your obscure complexity

I remember my first real concert was with B.sabbath summer 82 in hungary, we had to travel over 3000km to be on, and it was the end to my screaming around at our highschool-band-stagings. But earnestly, even as youngster i didntvtrip on the metal, but was elevated by the human powers of 73000 fans and the vortex of the concert. See, it was incremental a energetic structure which was in line with what is given through the generations and build upon by all to refine and tune this motivational stimulus of life. Here you go and see what is there left from the surface populus, besides the pollutions. A glorious etherical lifeform, like a holo-kernel, stucked with the multitude and adapted to interdim layers ect...

Reveal yourself, divine personality and lead us from death to immortality..., from regressive genspliced numbness to Loove, from isolated quarantene to beneficial symbiosis and playfoolness.

Namaskar

"I Am Iron-Man! Smoking Marijuana From a Coke Can!"
"Study Job through Daniel in the King James Version!!"
"Listen to the Music of J.S. Bach and G.F. Handel!!"

Aquaries1111 wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote: A1, you previously mentioned that I only had five months to say what I had to say. Could you elaborate on that? It sounded rather ominous.

Ah Oxy, I must have been out of my Able (Divine) mind when I wrote that.  Cain (lower) mind tends to kick in a lot and I don't take Cain seriously much.. I ask that you don't either..  Able is much more Divine.. A peace offering...

"This Place is Weird!"

Floyd wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote: regardless of the idealistic rantings and ravings of the 'save the humans' groups.

Who are these groups Oxy?

Aquaries1111 wrote:

Check this out Oxy

688 Emerald 1 UFO Commander & Christ

orthodoxymoron wrote:Woulda-Coulda-Shoulda: The greatest Organ that never was!, January 4, 2012 by Anthony L. Vallillo Jr.

This review is from: Cavaille-Coll's Monumental Organ Project for Saint Peter's, Rome: Bigger Than Them All (Hardcover)

If there is one place in Europe that I have spent more time in than Paris it is the Eternal City. Often have I wandered the incredible expanse of the world's largest church, and on occasion I have been there when the organ is playing. This has always been an elusive pleasure, since the organ in St. Peter's, although no doubt large by most standards, is painfully inadequate for the task it faces; that is, filling the world's largest liturgical volume with sound. In fact, although the effect can sometimes be ethereal, it usually sounds like a walkman playing in a concert hall! If only Cavaille-Coll had been given a shot at St. Peter's!

Much to my surprise, that had almost happened! It was some years ago when I discovered that C-C had actually drawn up plans for what would, at the time, have been the world's largest organ. The fascinating story of that most monumental "woulda-coulda-shoulda been" is told here by organ virtuoso and music historian Ron Ebrecht. Ron weaves history, culture, and even politics (yes, strange as it may seem this story is rife with politics and the 19th century version of political correctness!) into a well crafted narrative that is difficult to put down once you start. You will meet the many and fascinating personalities involved in the story, and you will wonder, as I have, at "what might have been" had this potential masterpiece actually come to fruition. More's the pity that it did not, but by all means let Ron tell the story -- he writes as well as he plays. Don't miss it!

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you for this thread HigherLove. Can you picture Jesus driving a Ferrari, wearing a sweat-suit and a Rolex watch as He pulls out of His beach-house driveway? Most would recoil from such a thought! Some would say that to suggest this is irreverent and inappropriate. Once again, I am conflicted. I love Jesus, both historically and within my heart. However, I would love to have a Ferrari, a Rolex, and a beach-house! Could I have my Jesus, and my Ferrari too? Is this the Rich Young Ruler 2011? Allow me to suggest that if I ever became a Wall Street wizard, a best-selling author, or a song-writer and singer, it would be entirely appropriate, as a Christian, to have a Ferrari, a Rolex, and a beach-house. Gasp! Shock! Disbelief! Disgust!

Now that I'm in deep H2O, allow me to try to escape the do-gooder sharks! The money making activities listed, if done honestly and ethically, are entirely appropriate. If a lot of money is made, the books are properly kept, and the taxes are honestly paid (even though the Federal Income Tax appears to be unconstitutional), the car, watch, and home are just rewards of the free enterprise system. The Ferrari could be a $60,000 used F355, rather than a $160,000 F430. Likewise, the Rolex could be purchased from an estate sale instead of on Rodeo Drive. The beach-house could be a small, modest property, located far from Malibu. If purchased shrewdly, all of these items could be excellent investments, and yield large financial returns.

Then, the majority of the income of all of the above could be donated to a variety of worthy causes. And one could drive said Ferrari to a Habitat For Humanity project, and pound nails for 8 hours. And the upper crust friends one would make on the job and on the golf course could be encouraged to go and do likewise! And they would have the resources to make a huge difference in this miserable world. Have you heard of Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Warren Buffet, Jimmy Carter, Bono, et.al.? I'm not sure that they started out to be Christ-like, but they sure are giving away lots of time and money! Maybe we Christians have been too narrow in what we define as Christ-like! I know I have...and I'm trying to change.

The Ferrari dealers make money to send their kids to college while people enjoy the nice cars. The Rolex employees make money for the necessities of life while people enjoy wearing these nice watches. Likewise, the construction and real-estate people make money to make their mortgage payments, while buyers enjoy their nice new homes. Part of the rationalization for this materialistic daydream is that good, ethical people should be well rewarded for their success. The bad, unethical people should not be well rewarded! They should be stripped of what they have, and locked up! I know I'm living in a dream-world. Having said this, one probably doesn't need a Ferrari collection, or 3 waterfront estates throughout the world! And one should never, ever be unethical or dishonest in the pursuit of money! People should pursue money and then become philanthropists. And they should never, ever look down on anyone. They should never, ever stop being nice to everyone.

I like the ancient Egyptian body position of reaching up with one hand, and reaching down with the other. Taking and giving. I also like the phrase, "Stand tall, and lift!" Striving for success and then helping others to climb higher! We must not neglect the top or the bottom. And the middle-class should be getting larger instead of smaller! How about one big, happy, stratified middle-class, with incentives, but without extreme wealth or destitute poverty? So, yes, I think it is possible at least, that Jesus would drive a Ferrari, wear a Rolex, and live in a beach-house! He probably would do it incognito to avoid misunderstandings. But Jesus hung out with just about everyone, from rich to poor...and maybe we should too!

As an afterthought, it should be just fine to not have a car, a watch or sweat-suit, and live in a studio apartment with no view! I have! The historical Jesus didn't even have a house! We shouldn't look up to others, or look down on others! We should all look straight ahead at each-other as children of God!

"See What Happens When One Attacks the Catholics???!!!"

magamud wrote:Wow great thread Ortho.  Those scam ministers are something.  Holly molly.  Im speechless...lol  Geez louise...  What the hell?

"To what can I compare this generation? They are like children sitting in the marketplaces and calling out to others:
"'We played the pipe for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge, and you did not mourn.'
For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, 'He has a demon.'
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.' But wisdom is proved right by her deeds."

Aquaries1111 wrote:I often wonder sometimes what world I am living in... I mean, my Father was a Catholic (deceased now), my Grand Mother a Jehovah's Witness.. My Mother, well she was never much around.. I was raised on a farm by my Grandmother who would read to me scriptures which I never could understand.... I much preferred looking for the hens eggs you know, the kind that lay around for years and years that when opened have a rotten smell.. Nana would send me out to bring back the good eggs.. I never did care to do that.. I shook every egg and kept the ones that rattled.. Sorry, am I going off track.. It's just that I have a headache today and feel super duper tired.. Moon cycles are draining.. and after having a ridiculous conversation about blood tonight.. well I'm just super set off in crazy mode.. Why don't people have common sense? A new day tomorrow.. I'll be with it then.

"And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence
shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all." -- Revelation 18:21 (KJV)

Eartheart wrote:

Wellll, @leastimade it out of here, so thanx multiple for the title"Escape Astralia", which
saved my sanity while over theredownunder - suspended in my ascension loop as a friendly bushmen,
streetworker, dreamer, lightpulser of the first and last days, divine operative under dreamspell order,
reclusive homeless bum and tribal hero of an undisclosed mission to save the southern hemisphere...

Cant really know if my inner circle of avalonians missed out on me, those last 2 years of nothingness
(despite Abraxas\Daniels Mirror of hollow timewarps and slow drop meds of terrorblood onto this
flat reality....), i followed our truth - docked off the system, mockingbirded the multidude and kept this
holo from descending further into the AI sink, while the lazy pack went in circles.

I escaped, but i'm still full of it, the whole Astral-alias reflexion\projections of the overzealous fanatical
correctness of the english speaking mob and their trained enforcers beeing so shown in OZ-land,
with a PM @Abottom - shirtfronting and pussylicking radioactive gold for the jew press out the bloody
kids on the street. What a sick state of affairs, i had to stay away from all social contact in the end, no
food-sex-relation-party-resonance-worx-communion ect.whatsever, them not make sense anymore...

I didnt visit Abraxas in Canberra or the fellow Jesus or Meytreya or the Goddessagainborn Babes,
just stayed in the swamp with the bats, which made me the sonofbatman to overcome american dreamtime...

The last G22 inbrisbane had me holding a 22day firevergil with the custodians, so those BBB&S aka MF
supposed to be impeached allready long ago couldnt manifest any timeline - chuckle... (The day after a
ICEaddicted Gay Rapist looking exactly like Obamma turned up to bloody my face and kill me and our
act - just as confirmation of our part of whats going on down under this carpet, then saved and very aloof
in my dreaming i wittnessed  the town hosting this meeting (Brisbane) was cleaned again by the most
electric superstorm ever wittnessed over there, with standing ovations of lightnings hundretfold...)

Its funny to be a walkin Jesus, in one of their godhouses, get a cheap soupand be unaknowledged, it again
portraits the whole global checkmade of the human hope archenemy:mall:  to the innocent baby lifeforce intel...

Somuch thanx for all the tests, humilations, shamings, dumps, mechanic dispellings, mobbings and and and,
ASIO attemps of EMdirectionals, Jews fux and other racials egomanic betrails, mongerings and disciplinary
efforts to put me out... Now i am truly guardian of the galaxy...which i'll fantasize to not escape...  ha

By the way, now i'm @ the birthplace of funky Hitler and near the birthplace of the last pope, seems tobe a freaky backyard of backwards souls playing the bad in need of Loove spiraled in, ready for transfiguration again - its a classic without hope...

Those with the touch know how this will be played... Loove

orthodoxymoron wrote:I will take a very close look at the first post of this thread. There is something I continue to like about the 'Thuban' phenomenon -- but I don't embrace it -- or even get a lot of it. As I have said before, within a particular context, I'm sure all of it makes sense -- but I exist within a Comprehensively-Tangential Mental and Spiritual Cyber-Space -- Consequential to Failing to Ingest My Dragon -- and NOT Being Permitted Entrance to the Council of Thuban as a Bifurcated-Homogenization of a Madonna-Serpentum Template Relative to a Post Dragonian Representative-Republican Royal-Model Freedom-Seeking Red-Pill Pharmaceutical-Delusional Solar-System After the Order of King James. End of Line.

Raven wrote:

The Constitution and Almanac of the New Cosmos in Dragon Logos Law and Jurisprudence

The Council of Thuban Templated and Authorized by the Twin Logos

Preamble:

This information is 'sensitive' with respect to the 'old human mind' and therefore will not be shared 'a priori' on any non-Thuban affiliated forums.
This data is however not classified or secret and any unaffiliated visitor to the stated links of the source codes, is free to share, copy and disseminate without copyright restrictions the 'sensitive' information as he or she might desire so to do.
Old human administration and moderation and censorship on all levels of the old legislatures, will be circumscribed in a manner chosen by the Council of Thuban, authorized and manifested under the auspices and jurisprudence of Dragon Logos Law.
What this new legislative charter with its redefined executive function implies for the transition of the 'old human order' into a 'new starhuman order' shall become apparent in the data base of the linked information lexicons and libraries.

The cosmic nature of some of the information described in the translation of those source codes can be said to be 'alien' to the human way of perception. This is simply an effect of a necessary 'cocooning' or quarantine of what is termed the 'old human species' in this almanac.
This 'old human' is doomed to cosmic extinction, being superceded by its 'new starhuman' quantum wave progenitor, defined as its own descendant in morphology or structural form in biophysically inducted geometry.

The Council of Thuban:

The Council of Thuban became established and Logos authorized to intersect and mirror the old human orders on Dragon StarDate DSD#1/2372012 to reveal the new reconfigured 'shadow' cosmic government in parallel to the old established human structures of political, socio-economic and militaristic authorities and quasi-autocracies in oligarchical plutocracy defined in the order of the distribution of environmentally derived resources.

Some of the 'human mind sensitive' data relates to the nature of the Council of Thuban and how this 'Order of the Dragon' becomes manifest in the 'Old World' from its templated mirror state in the 'New World.
The Council of Thuban is Logos chosen in its template form, but following the 'filling of the ambassadorian offices'; this cosmic blueprint will be released to manifest on all locations in the quarantine zone, known as the human homeplanet Gaia Akashia or Earth Terra.

The first information release from the Council of Thuban, therefore shall describe an universal cosmic template of 'governance by elders' applicable to any community or group of inhabitants at its occupancy at whatever 3-dimensional locality.

This locality on Terra represents a cosmic manifesto of Dragon Law and is bounded by this law in relation to the ability of the occupants or cosmic citizens to understand and apply this legislature in a new starhuman mindfulness of perception and wisdom.
The actual implementation of 'living as a cosmic starhuman' becomes a function of the individual adeptness and quality of the elders as community elected ambassadors and also as a function of the state of the communal group consciousness and cosmic awareness to understand the nature of the stipulations from its founding councils.

The founding councils are progenitive and Logos chosen as a function of the Inheritance of the human remembrance to either accept or reject this inheritance.
It is this self remembrance, which differentiates the old human from the new human in terms of quality and fitness for cosmic ambassadorhood.

This cosmic ambassadorship relates to the cosmogony of the evolvement of the cosmic mind, began so 2,200 million years from the inauguration of the dragon law.
The cosmic sentience is comprised of many progenitors found within the old human genetic stock, and its morphed bodyforms, which are biophysically engineered to host the ancestral waveform as a form of cosmic consciousness blended with a cocooned or exiled and spacetime restricted form of 'human uniqueness'.

One of the criteria to qualify as a 'cosmic starhuman representative' in the Councils of Thuban is to remember the ancestral lineages as descendents of the founders from quantumspace.

There are 5 months of preparation from DSD#1 to DSD#152 and the actions of the Council of Thuban will assume a form as appropriatedness, depending on the authorisation of the Council by the Cosmic Twin Logos and the cosmic auspices of the Councils of Thuban separated from the cocoon of planet earth and the quarantine zone of the old human stock, seeking to graduate into cosmic citizenhip.

Revelation 4: (KJV)

¹ After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
² And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
³ And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.
⁴ And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
⁵ And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
⁶ And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
⁷ And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
⁸ And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
⁹ And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,
¹⁰ The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
¹¹ Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

The open and public links are:
BirthofGaia
Thuban Cosmosdawn

Date of Inauguration: Monday, July 23rd, 2012 at 04:12 UCT
This is the terran timestamp for the astrodynamic ingress of the local star Rahsol from the elder tribal sign of Cancer into the elder tribal sign of Leo.

Dragon StarDates or DSDs so are reckoned from the Day of the Dragon QueenBee or the Cosmic Mother Goddess Mary Magdalene and stipulated as Sunday, July 22nd, 2012 as DSD#0.

DSD#152 as the Logos defined completion of the 'old human harvest' so will be the 153rd 'Vesica Pisces' Day and is astrodynamically defined in the terran timestamp for the solar ingress of Rahsol from the elder tribal sign of Sagittarius into the elder tribal sign of Capricorn: Friday, December 21st, 2012 at 11:12 UCT.

Any five consecutive months, not including February will add to 153 days as the Vesica Pisces of the 'Flood of Noah' and the 'Curse of the Scorpions' in Genesis.7 and Revelation.9.1-12 respectively.

Gospel of Thomas: (Lambdin)
{8} And he said, "The man is like a wise fisherman who cast his net into the sea and drew it up from the sea full of small fish. Among them the wise fisherman found a fine large fish. He threw all the small fish back into the sea and chose the large fish without difficulty. Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."

{17} Jesus said, "I shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear has heard and what no hand has touched and what has never occurred to the human mind."

John.21.1-11: King James Version (KJV)
¹ After these things Jesus shewed himself again to the disciples at the sea of Tiberias; and on this wise shewed he himself.
² There were together Simon Peter, and Thomas called Didymus, and Nathanael of Cana in Galilee, and the sons of Zebedee, and two other of his disciples.
³ Simon Peter saith unto them, I go a fishing. They say unto him, We also go with thee. They went forth, and entered into a ship immediately; and that night they caught nothing.
⁴ But when the morning was now come, Jesus stood on the shore: but the disciples knew not that it was Jesus.
⁵ Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No.
⁶ And he said unto them, Cast the net on the right side of the ship, and ye shall find. They cast therefore, and now they were not able to draw it for the multitude of fishes.
⁷ Therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved saith unto Peter, It is the Lord. Now when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he girt his fisher's coat unto him, (for he was naked,) and did cast himself into the sea.
⁸ And the other disciples came in a little ship; (for they were not far from land, but as it were two hundred cubits,) dragging the net with fishes.
⁹ As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
¹⁰ Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now caught.
¹¹ Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken.

Logos Basis and Dragon Law #1: - The general topology

The Dragon Omniverse is self-communicative as a macrocosmic entity harbouring holofractal microcosmic subsystems as parts of itself.
The macrocosmic entity resides in an interwoven, but colocal spacetime matrix in a metrically defined linespace of 3 dimensions, which is convoluted or extended in colocality by 3-dimensional tiers of rotation, vibration and quantization to define a 12-dimensional Omniverse in 12 spacial dimensions of self closure and without temporality.
A three dimensional seedling space of linear translation so forms the basis for a superposed temporality or time perception to manifest as timegate between the translational omniverse and the rotational omniverse in timegate 4 and the rotational omniverse and the vibrational omniverse in timegate 7 and the vibrational omniverse and the quantum omniverse in timegate 10.

The Order of the 24 Elders in 12 Tribes of Thuban Draconis in
Urim Behemoth and Thummin Leviathan
of Gaia Serpentinus = Gaius Serpentina - the New Jerusalem

1. The Order of the 24 Elders of Sardinius Jasper in 12 Tribes of Thuban Draconis in the Jobian Urim Behemoth of FireEarth and Thummin Leviathan of AirWater of Gaia Serpentinuis aka Gaius Serpentina - the New Earth and New Jerusalem

1. House of Sardius-Sardius of Peter with Andrew Barjona/Andrea = Mars with Aresina

under Aries/Reuben



2. House of Topaz-Topaz of Andrew with James Zebedee/Jacqui

= Venus with Vulcan under Taurus/Simeon



3. House of Carbuncle-Chalcedony of James with John Zebedee/Joanna

= Mercury with Hermenia under Gemini/Levi



4. House of Emerald-Emerald of John with Philip Bethsaida/Philippia

= Rahsol with Gaia under Leo/Judah



5. House of Ligure-Chrysoprasus of Philip with Nathanael Bart/Nathalia

= Full Moon with Southern Dragon Tail under Cancer/Dan



6. House of Agate-Chrysolite of Bartholomew with Matthew Levi/Martha

= New Moon with Northern Dragon Head under Libra/Naphtali



7. House of Amethyst-Amethyst of Matthew with Simon Zealotes/Simone

= Sharona with Chiron under Virgo/Gad



8. House of Beryl-Beryl of Simon with James Alphaeus/Jamila

= Nemesis with Pluto under Scorpio/Asher



9. House of Sapphire-Sapphire of Alphaeus with Judas Lebbaeus/Alfea

= Jupiter with Zeusina under Sagittarius/Issachar



10. House of Diamond-Sardonyx of Judas Thaddeus with Thomas/Tamasin

= Saturnia with Saturn under Capricorn/Zebulon



11. House of Onyx-Jacinth of Thomas Didymos with Judas Iscariot/Judith

= Uranus with Urania under Aquarius/Joseph



12. House of Jasper-Jasper of Paul Judas with Saul Cephas/Pauline

= under Poseidia with Neptune under Pisces/Benjamin



The Bloodstone of Israel (Heliotrope)

The mineral heliotrope, also known as bloodstone, is a form of CHALCEDONY (which is a cryptocrystalline mixture of quartz and its monoclinic polymorp morganite).
The "classic" bloodstone is green chalcedony with red inclusions or iron oxide or RED JASPER.
Sometimes the inclusions are yellow, in which case the mineral is given the name plasma.
The red inclusions are supposed to resemble spots of BLOOD; hence the name "BLOODSTONE".
The name "heliotrope" (from Greek ήλιος helios, Sun, τρέπειν trepein, to turn) derives from various ancient notions about the manner in which the mineral reflects light. These are described, e.g., by Pliny the Elder (Nat.Hist. 37.165).

Heliotrope is the traditional BIRTHSTONE for March.

{Birth of Jesus of Nazareth defined in March 20th to April 17th, 6BC and Crucifixion Date of March 28th, 31 AD.}

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliotrope_(mineral)

The 'Ring of Shamir' aka the Magic Worm, who inscribes and blends the colours of the tribes and the gemstones of the New Jerusalem and which manifests the 'Word of God' in its cosmic lawfulness.

Solomon's Ring, the Worm or Little Serpent of Shamir

In the Gemara the shamir (Hebrew: שמיר‎) is a mythical worm or a substance that had the power to cut through or disintegrate stone, iron and diamond and in the myth King Solomon used it in the building of the First Temple in Jerusalem in the place of cutting tools. For the building of the Temple, which promoted peace, it was inappropriate to use tools that could also cause war and bloodshed.

Referenced throughout the Talmud and the Midrashim, the Shamir was reputed to have existed in the time of Moses. Moses reputedly used the Shamir to carve the Hoshen (Priestly breastplate) into the tablets of stone. King Solomon, aware of the existence of the Shamir, but unaware of its location, commissioned a search that turned up a "grain of Shamir the size of a barley-corn."

Solomon's artisans reputedly used the Shamir in the construction of Solomon's Temple. The material to be worked, whether stone, wood or metal, was affected by being "shown to the Shamir." Following this line of logic (anything that can be 'shown' something must have eyes to see), early Rabbinical scholars described the Shamir almost as a living being. Other early sources, however, describe it as a green stone. For storage, the Shamir was meant to have been always wrapped in wool and stored in a container made of lead; any other vessel would burst and disintegrate under the Shamir's gaze. The Shamir was said to have been either lost or had lost its potency (along with the "dripping of the honeycomb") by the time of the destruction of the First Temple at the hands of Nebuchadnezzar in 586 B.C.

Ashmedai or Asmodeus

According to the legend, the shamir was given to Solomon as a gift from Asmodeus, the king of demons.
Another version of the story holds that a captured Asmodeus told Solomon the Shamir was entrusted to the care of a woodcock. Solomon then sends his trusted aide Benaiah on a quest to retrieve it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon's_shamir
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priestly_breastplate

The 24 Elders in the Cosmic Twinship of the Lion of Judea-Egypt:

1. Peter and (Mary Magdalene)

2. Andrew and Andrea

3. James and Jacqui

4. John and Joanna

5. Philip and Phillipia

6. Bartholomew and Nathalia

7. Matthew and Martha

8. Simon and Simone

9. Alphaeus and Jamila

10. Judas Thaddeus and Alfea

11. Thomas and Tamasin

12. Paul Judas and Judith

13. (Matthias) and Pauline

Continuity in (Dynamic Mary)

14. (Justus) and (Justine)

Carol wrote:

Deal Made For Planet Earth w/ Malevolent ET Race
- Gordon Duff (MJ12) w/ Mike Harris

Some speculate that Duff is an NSA puppet, your discretion is advised.

"The text at the first of the video is the "The Secret Covenant" . . I simply included it in case some viewers were unaware of its existence. Who knows if it's genuine? Not me. It is suspicious that "they" would allow it to be written anywhere if in fact it was genuine. On the other hand, it is my my opinion that those who are in control of the darkness of this dark world are "the ones who from heaven to earth came," the Fallen Ones."

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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/03/...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/03/...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/03/...
From Project Camelot
http://projectcamelotportal.com/kerry...

[SNIP] The recent Mike Harris show with Gordon Duff as guest spilling the beans on a supposed "deal" with an off-planet race of humanoids that are said to come from Alpha Centari and are headed here (nearly a billion I am told by a separate source)... Go to the Rense archives for today's radio show hosted by Mike Harris. Must listen.

While I haven't heard it yet, I have heard things about what info it contains such as:

These visitors apparently look remarkably like the ideal Nazi.. big. light haired (some say even albino in coloring) muscular and so on... The story goes, they are in need of a large amount of real estate to settle their people on, having lost a war with some unfriendlies on not just one of their planets but two!

This is the tale that a contingent of MJ12/psion or whatever name they go by now-adays is spinning. What they are saying is that the secret government has made a deal to bring this group here in exchange for technology (big surprise) and another planet (or planets) where the human race is said to be given rights to terraform and move their own to in the event our Earth cannot sustain us... or them.

They are planning to give them, pause for effect, Africa! A whole continent. And governments worldwide know this and have agreed. I don't think that will go over well with the current inhabitants. Yes I know it sounds just like the movie District 9 and The Event.

In fact, I ran this by one of my whistleblowers and he agreed this has been in the works for some time. Only, these supposed humanoid beings aren't really humanoid... They are of course reptilian and even a form of 'praying mantis' parading as human so as not to upset the locals.

And I am being told the ghost cities in Angola being built by the Chinese are supposed to be built to house their "caretakers" -- that is, the Earth humans who will mind the place.

While, I am at it this same Duff-MJ12 contingent is claiming the recent asteroid over Russia was a craft full of yet another group of 12-14 inch beings with an extra apendage... in addition to 2 arms and 2 legs... And they are supposedly not 'friendlies"....

Are they simply trotting this out to amaze and confuse? Are their elements of truth mixed with disinfo?... Yes probably. My whistleblower apparently communicated this scenario 3 years ago to a certain person (not me). ie. From what I have heard, diabolical plans for the African continent by the secret government have long been hinted at but no scenario such as the one mentioned on the Mike Harris show on Rense with Gordon Duff was forthcoming...

Given scenarios such as these, it's no wonder they needed a younger Naz/Jesuiti in the office of Pope.

Some think this Pope is planning to bring the worlds together and that he is working for the good of humanity. Time will tell. [SNIP]

devakas wrote:In previous yugas people knew absolute truth. before last yuga children when yet not learned anything, were helped to memorize all sound verses. They take all in easy, memorized, took in. Human memory was better also. It used to be memorized before it was understood. The sound of power. A teacher then explains the meaning of the Vedas when the library was already there, memorized. God consciousness was there. There was no additional meaning added or taken away.

devakas wrote:The ignorance in grand scale

progress, evolution, development, notion of increase came from the shift of matterial world from goodness to passion. when a shift into goodness happens then we will see art, literalture, intelect increase and economic development decrease. Its towards maintenance instead of passion. just keep in mind.  Don't forget to be happy. There is no conflict in Vedas, its self evident knowedge for us.

I've got a stack of books that I'm trying to focus on.

1. 'The Twelfth Planet' by Zechariah Sitchin.
2. 'The Gods of Eden' by William Bramley.
3. 'Rule by Secrecy' by Jim Marrs.
4. 'Jesus: Last of the Pharaohs' by Ralph Ellis.
5. 'The Holy Bible' (King James Version).
6. 'The 1928 Book of Common Prayer'.
7. 'The Desire of Ages' by Ellen White.
8. 'The Great Controversy' by Ellen White.
9. 'Astronomica' (Huge Astronomy Book).
10. 'The Orgelbuchlein' by J.S. Bach.
11. 'The Wine of Roman Babylon' by Mary Walsh.
12. 'The Federalist Papers'.

devakas wrote:dont worry ortho,  we all do mistakes, errors, we all are humans  

only some people do the same mistake again four times.... five times..... more times

devakas wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you devakas.

you are welcome

Does God make mistakes?

no

Is there a Pre-Human God and a Human God??

He is one and no second

If so -- are they in conflict with each other??

no conflict

Might they be committed to very different models of governance and physicality??

3 modes of creation as His divine Krishna potencies:
1.creation -Brahma - passion (in us too) / 2. destructions - Shiva - ignorance / 3. maintenance - Vishnu - goodness. Krishna is in goodness always. He adores Radha His most intimate Lover. He is always young. He lives in spiritual world, where we all came from. Material world is temporarity, misery, ignorance. Our goal ultimate goal to get back to Supreme Personality of Godhead.

I continue to get the impression that the Pre-Human Universe was a very strict theocracy -- that presently, the Non-Human Universe is a very strict theocracy -- and that a Post-Human Universe will be a very strict theocracy. For better or worse -- I know not.

it is opinion not truth

higher value of life is fully engaged and connect with creator most powerful, most attractive, that who maintains everything. Humans are disturbed by material desires, their consciousness is body level, self satisfaction, meat eating, blindness and nobody can see. Human position is to satisfy senses, we are slaves of this, this is the position of humanity now. then is comes economy, science, cultures, this takes us to misery not harmony, wars, crimes and unhappy families...

our souls are attractive to devotional service only when we minimize our desires, mind projections... Krisha said I give intelect to all to understand me, but we use our intellect to go to hell.

zigmund would say enjoy! ..., for those who are afraid, with attachments, anger and intoxicated into untrue. in other words suicidal Heroes.

devakas wrote:in previous yugas King was responsible for weather, for anxiety of society, deseases. then was real protection of all

now our rulers are not responsible even for economy.

nobody is trained to be Best of man anymore.

we all have intelligence, mind and false ego.  we should tap into intelligence only...

orthodoxymoron wrote:

Carol wrote:I seriously doubt that Obama is what or who these channelers think he was.  He was identified by Project Pegasus as one of the future presidents and has been groomed by the CIA since he was a child.  He was even involved in Project Pegasus and part of the group of kids that went off world to Mars.  You can check Andrew Basiago's website for his own personal story about Obama.  Obama is not a legitimate natural born citizen (both parents are suppose to be US citizens and he is suppose to have been born in the US - his birth certificate has been forged) and he has no right under the US Constitution to sit in office.  He is not even a legal citizen and has faked his Social Security number.  He is a traitor and should be charged and prosecuted as such.

Carol, I keep trying to think in terms of "Changing Everything -- Without Changing Anything -- So We Don't Destroy Our Civilization". Perhaps what you just mentioned about Obama (which I don't doubt) is just the tip of the iceberg -- with 'disclosure' of one thing leading to disclosure of another thing -- and another -- and another -- and another. I keep thinking that when 'Official Disclosure' occurs -- everyone will already know -- and people will just shrug their shoulders -- and go to dinner and the movies. However, I am REALLY bothered by the fact that no one seems to be being brought to justice -- especially when it is SO obvious that SO many are SO guilty of SO many REALLY bad and nasty things...

"May La Force '64 Be With You, Fred!!"

WORK HARD = RESPONSIBLE ENTERPRISE

PLAY HARD = RESPONSIBLE RECREATION

PRAY HARD = RESPONSIBLE RESEARCH

Aquaries1111 wrote:Morning Oxy,

On this edition of DTRH Popeye talks with filmmaker, radio show host, and researcher Christopher Everard. They go over the Black Nobility families of Europe, The Illuminati, wormholes, UFOs, the spiritworld and more. Don't miss this informative broadcast.

Aquaries1111 wrote:Remember this Oxy?  I wouldn't worry about Olivia in Wonderland anymore.. That Disney Drama is over now..

The Battle of the GalactiKars... Hey, I'm riding with you Oxy..    

Oxy Wrote:

abraxasinas...don't take the following rant personally. I'm not sure where the proper balance point is in all of this. I'm seeking a rock-solid foundation. I do not wish to build on sinking sand...but there will obviously be many false-starts and misunderstandings as I try to find my way...and my voice. I'm tempted to attempt writing about the United States of the Solar System http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...ymoron+threads with a writing style similar to yours abraxasinas. I realize that I can't come close to accomplishing such a feat...but I can try...can't I? This is new territory for me. I'm ashamed that I don't know more about that which I am espousing...but I'm even more ashamed that very few of us seem to give a rat's patootie about how this Solar System is run.

Have our negotiators been duped over and over again...by essentially demonic entities? I wonder. The 1954 Greada Treaty (if it really exists) was a mistake...wasn't it? But I'm sure we had TOP people...who were on top of everything...and had everything under control...RIGHT? Just like we have TOP people...who have everything under control...at this very moment...RIGHT? Don't get me wrong...I am an overly accomodating and gullible person. I'm the kind of person who hates to swat a fly. I don't wish to harm anyone or anything...even demonic entities. But I don't want various aliens, spirits, whoever, or whatever...enslaving and exterminating us...or making life miserable for all of us. I think we have been lied to and manipulated for thousands (or even millions) of years by various entities and beings. We're not as smart as we think we are...when it comes to dealing with these entities and beings. Again...I wish them no harm. But perhaps my 'where there's life...there's hope' bias is what has gotten us into a lot of trouble for a long, long time. Somehow...we need to deal with this thing here and now...and not let it drag on (dragon -get it?!) for thousands and millions of years into the future. We are kept in the dark about Universal History...and regarding who we really are. Yet...we then get chided for being the 'New Kids on the Block' who need to evolve so we can join all of the superior beings throughout the Universe. I'm sick of this BS. Throughout history...right up to this very day...I am not seeing a reasonable and rational approach to Solar System Governance. I'm seeing 'Divide and Conquer'...'Keep Them Confused and Fighting With Each Other'...and 'Keep Them Ignorant and Stupid'. I'm as mad as hell. I've had enough. And I'm not going to take this anymore. Can you feel the love tonight?

The eschatological paradigms are mostly negative and violent. I envision continuity in perpetuity in Sol. I'm not moving away from this Solar System. This is my home. Sun. Fun. Stay. Play. This is my sand-box...and the playground attendants are poised to expel the bullies from our little paradise. This Solar System is the Theater of the Universe. The implications and ramifications of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...in the context of the Constitution of the United States of America and the Bill of Rights...in the context of the United Nations...and applied to the entire Solar System...are enormous. I stand in opposition to the corrupt Powers That Be...both Terrestrial and Extraterrestrial...and demand that the United States of the Solar System be implemented with all deliberate speed...and that a Solar System Exorcism commence immediately. In the words of Moses "Let My People Go!" I perceive that We the People of Earth are Prisoners of War...on a Prison Planet...with Grey Guards...and a Reptilian/Human Hybrid Warden...Taking Orders From a Draconian Reptilian God of This World. This is an intolerable state of affairs...and must not be allowed to stand. I hereby request that the non-corrupt Beings of the Universe assist We the People of Earth for a very brief period of time...as we know it...to implement the reforms outlined throughout this thread devoted to the United States of the Solar System. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15878 Thanks and Gratitude in Advance.

I completely and vehemently reject the following Thuban quotation found in ANNO DOMINI DRAGONIA UNO: INTRODUCTION TO DRAGONHOOD http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...t=18900&page=3 (This book is written in the Dragonian language and requires familiarity and intitiation into the structural forms or the forked tongue of Its bifurcation of Unicornian grammar and omniscientific terminology.) "It is however the great destiny of the humanoids to aspire to Dragonhood, because of their immense emotional energy potential and mental aspirations. The reunification of our Father with our Mother allows our Masterdragons, Who are as One in 26 dimensions to femtotechnically Seed the Omniverse as THEMSELVES and then reproduce THEMSELVES as Universes. Every such universe is a Monosong and a 26-dimensional dyad of a FatherMother. This is our Creative Destiny and the destiny for all dragonised humans aka the starhumans."

THIS IS NOT THE DESTINY OF WE THE PEOPLE OF EARTH. BETTER DEAD THAN REP. OUR DESTINY IS RESPONSIBLE FREEDOM AS A SOVEREIGN HUMANITY.

OK...what's going on here? I made a slightly shrill (though well intentioned and polite) post a couple of days ago...and abraxasinas has not responded or posted since then. Now...just a few minutes ago...I think I saw my first UFO's in an area where someone had noticed increased military helicopter activity. I saw a slowly moving pinpoint of light suddenly become very bright...and disappear. It didn't look like a meteor at all. Then I saw several faint pinpoints of light...moving erratically in a manner which no conventional fighter jet could match. I thought I saw a couple of faint flashes in this same area of the sky. UFO dogfight? Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Aquaries1111 wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you for the re-post A1. That particular post (made a couple of years ago) continues to haunt me each and every day -- to this very day. What (if anything) really happened when I made that post? I am idealistic -- yet who am I really -- reincarnationally??? What if I am ET -- and I have been wronged by Humanity??? What if I am Fundamentally Human -- and have been wronged by ET??? How am I supposed to know??? What if I have been wronged by both ET and Humanity??? What if I have wronged both ET and Humanity??? How can I really do the right thing -- if I don't know ALL of the pertinent information??? What's REALLY going on here??? The one claiming to be an Ancient Egyptian Deity told me who I supposedly was (reincarnationally) -- but I seriously doubt that this is the case (and I'm hoping that it ISN'T) -- yet I still wonder who ALL of us are on a reincarnational-basis???!!! We might be shocked!!!

Hi Oxy,

Something you mentioned in a past post about something this Ancient Egyptian Deity mentioned to you did not ring true to me.. I cannot remember exactly what it was I had read but it did not ring true to me.. I ask that you seriously take a "step back" from whoever, or whatever you are dealing with there.. "Trust Yourself"... You have always been "your best bet"..

I continue to believe you are "ET in Disguise".. Many are, most just don't know it yet... It doesn't much matter who we were in a past life.. what matters is who we are now.. "Mind Intact".

Aquaries1111 wrote:Nuff said?

Now I have this one to look at too

Whatever happened to KRLLL? Did KRLLL really die? Who was/is KRLLL really? Here is a partial answer: http://www.krlll.com/index.html Bill Cooper talked about KRLLL. What do you think about the full name Omnipotent Highness KRLLL? Is Original Hostage KRLLL more fitting for O.H. KRLLL? What kind of alien was KRLLL? Was the KRLLL event a staged deception? Did KRLLL prepare the way for the Greada Treaty?

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20110

Shifting to "Beetlejuice".. ready to go Super Nova...

Aquaries1111 wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:Who knows where the deception ends -- and the truth begins?? I have no idea. What Would Pinky and the Brain Say???

Who knows where the deception begins and the truth ends... maybe it all completes and a new Universe Game to play..

Loved Doctor Who....

Doctor Who and Worzel Gummidge.. **Musika**

"BOOO!!!"

Aquaries1111 wrote:Hi Oxy,

I couldn't hit as many home runs without you passing me the ball.. which you do indeed give me plenty to think about.. I wonder how many megabytes?? (Is this the right word?) this brain of mine really has.. It's hard these days for me to retain much at all in this 3D reality.. I'm sure I'm being helped by at least one "Guide" assisting me in my dream states.. I find it fascinating that we live in more than just one reality.. Waking up only to realize that the problems of the past night become "laughable" in comparison to the bigger picture...

Well on another note, I downloaded a link from Frank O'Collins website which you might find interesting.. The Journey of Self, written by Frank O'Collins.

orthodoxymoron wrote:

magamud wrote:

How do we achieve a Common-Denominator of Unity

Knowing the Father and his plan will bring about this...

While Preserving Responsible-Freedom and Respectful-Inquiry?

The Word will speak for itself.  The freedom to choose is always there as your a sovereign soul.  I am here to just point the way while I can and let you know time is a factor as a season comes and goes...

employing what I refer to as 'Comprehensive Concentration'?

Gods works are everywhere and the things you speak of will bring you to the door I am pointing at.  Everything comes from him, so the idea is to know him.

Godspeed Ortho and thanks for the awesome music...

Where and how is one to find and know the Father? What does the Father look like? Where does the Father live? Is the Father in favor of the continued existence of Male and Female Human Physicality? Does the Father favor Responsible-Freedom? Does the Father favor a Primarily-Human United States of the Solar System? What race is the Father -- spiritually and physically? Does the Father love, or hate, the Son? I keep seeing and hearing Mumo-Jumbo without honesty and clarity -- and this deeply frightens me. Humanity really seems to be on the Brink of Extinction -- as Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God. What REALLY scares me is the thought that we might very well deserve torture and extermination. Is the Father a Non-Human God and a Human Satan?? Is Jesus (the Son) a Human God and a Non-Human Satan?? I see both God and Satan in Nature. Nature can be a Real Mother. I keep getting the sinking feeling that We Stupid Humans are NOT supposed to know this and that about this and that -- but yet, in the final analysis (in the Final Judgment) we will be found guilty as charged -- and that there is no possible way to NOT be found guilty. I keep getting the feeling that we were guilty of Rebellion, the Original Sin, and the Unpardonable Sin -- from the moment of the creation of Male and Female Human Physicality. I SO hope that I'm wrong about all of this. I have found it necessary to be VERY open and honest regarding this subject -- even though I HATE doing it. I Seem to be Doubly Damning My Soul to Get At the Truth.

magamud wrote:

Where and how is one to find and know the Father?

He is a narrative in your mind Ortho.  You have to remember.  Ask and you shall receive..

What does the Father look like?

He is unseen except through the Holy spirit or his Son.  

Is the Father in favor of the continued existence of Male and Female Human Physicality?

Yes through that dynamic we can physically create, love, worship etc...

Does the Father favor Responsible-Freedom?

Absolutely, he loves sovereignty and responsibility.

Does the Father favor a Primarily-Human United States of the Solar System?

From his wisdom is an Army of beings that follow him, which arises his kingdom.  

Does the Father love, or hate, the Son?

He is like any father would be with his children Ortho.

as Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.

This is a corruption of his word used by the Devil and people who need extremes to be responsible.  From my pov imho that is not to say there is not a lot at stake!  

What REALLY scares me is the thought that we might very well deserve torture and extermination

Ortho, we are going through a maturation of awareness and a responsibility of choice.  Look to the analogy of the seeds in the Garden with the Gospel.

Is the Father a Non-Human God and a Human Satan?

The Father is a consciousness, a force, a power.  The same is with Satan, except I believe he is drawn out in the end times to have physicality, to be exposed for who he is...  
The Son is the physicalized manifestation of the Father.

Nature can be a Real Mother.

This is the female side in architecture as you stated.  Prana or mana is this.  The Devil treats this aspect like a Harlot...

were guilty of Rebellion,

Ortho this is not an easy part of maturation.  The Devil is a real arse and uses all his power to keep us in his world.  Also we have to go through this to grow.  I would compare it to a seed climbing up the soil searching for the Light....  Is this bad?  The Devil wants souls to reject gods plans and choose his, so as to why most people have the projection of Brimstone and Fire.

I SO hope that I'm wrong about all of this

See you do know the architecture of his workings Ortho, you just are missing the Heart of it.....

Godspeed....

magamud wrote:

I just keep thinking that there is a level of political and theological discussion

Im sure this is true Ortho, but the Heart of the matter is the center of all things.  

One can 'love' someone who they are severely punishing and/or executing

Yes no doubt.  I use this reference with the love religions who don't follow this narrative.  A devils paradise, those who love his creation.  

I'd be fired by ANY religious institution

I agree...

Aquaries1111 wrote:The darker, more sinister and oldest writings on the human soul actually paint a completely different picture of the human soul. Instead of being a gift, the gnostic gospels point to the soul being an unintended consequence of the arrogance of our makers. The gnostic gospels destribe a similar story to the Sumerians in that humans were genetically "made". However in the case of caucasian humans, the writings talk of the event being driven out of arrogance, not necessity or productivity.

The loss of the power Yaltabaoth stole from Sophia to Mankind

"The body moved and gained strength, and it was luminous..."

"And in that moment the rest of the powers became jealous, because he
had come into being through all of them and they had given their power
to the man, and his intelligence was greater than that of those who had
made him, and greater than that of the chief archon. And when they
recognized that he was luminous, and that he could think better than
they, and that he was free from wickedness, they took him and threw him
into the lowest region of all matter.

"But the blessed One, the Mother-Father, the beneficent and merciful
One, had mercy on the power of the mother which had been brought forth
out of the chief archon, for they (the archons) might gain power over
the natural and perceptible body. And he sent, through his beneficent
Spirit and his great mercy, a helper to Adam, luminous Epinoia which
comes out of him, who is called Life. And she assists the whole
creature, by toiling with him and by restoring him to his fullness and
by teaching him about the descent of his seed (and) by teaching him
about the way of ascent, (which is) the way he came down. And the
luminous Epinoia was hidden in Adam, in order that the archons might not
know her, but that the Epinoia might be a correction of the deficiency of the mother.

"And the man came forth because of the shadow of the light which is in
him. And his thinking was superior to all those who had made him. When
they looked up, they saw that his thinking was superior. And they took
counsel with the whole array of archons and angels. They took fire and
earth and water and mixed them together with the four fiery winds. And
they wrought them together and caused a great disturbance. And they
brought him (Adam) into the shadow of death, in order that they might
form (him) again from earth and water and fire and the spirit which
originates in matter, which is the ignorance of darkness and desire, and
their counterfeit spirit. This is the tomb of the newly-formed body with
which the robbers had clothed the man, the bond of forgetfulness; and he
became a mortal man. This is the first one who came down, and the first
separation. But the Epinoia of the light which was in him, she is the
one who was to awaken his thinking.

"And the archons took him and placed him in paradise. And they said to
him, 'Eat, that is at leisure,' for their luxury is bitter and their
beauty is depraved. And their luxury is deception and their trees are
godlessness and their fruit is deadly poison and their promise is death.
And the tree of their life they had placed in the midst of paradise.

"And I shall teach you (pl.) what is the mystery of their life, which is
the plan which they made together, which is the likeness of their
spirit. The root of this (tree) is bitter and its branches are death,
its shadow is hate and deception is in its leaves, and its blossom is
the ointment of evil, and its fruit is death and desire is its seed, and
it sprouts in darkness. The dwelling place of those who taste from it is
Hades, and the darkness is their place of rest.

"But what they call the tree of knowledge of good and evil, which is the
Epinoia of the light, they stayed in front of it in order that he (Adam)
might not look up to his fullness and recognize the nakedness of his
shamefulness. But it was I who brought about that they ate."

And to I said to the savior, "Lord, was it not the serpent that taught
Adam to eat?" The savior smiled and said, "The serpent taught them to
eat from wickedness of begetting, lust, (and) destruction, that he
(Adam) might be useful to him. And he (Adam) knew that he was
disobedient to him (the chief archon) due to light of the Epinoia which
is in him, which made him more correct in his thinking than the chief
archon. And (the latter) wanted to bring about the power which he
himself had given him. And he brought a forgetfulness over Adam."

And I said to the savior, "What is the forgetfulness?" And he said "It
is not the way Moses wrote (and) you heard. For he said in his first
book, 'He put him to sleep' (Gn 2:21), but (it was) in his perception.
For also he said through the prophet, 'I will make their hearts heavy,
that they may not pay attention and may not see' (Is 6:10).

"Then the Epinoia of the light hid herself in him (Adam). And the chief
archon wanted to bring her out of his rib. But the Epinoia of the light
cannot be grasped. Although darkness pursued her, it did not catch her.
And he brought a part of his power out of him. And he made another
creature, in the form of a woman, according to the likeness of the
Epinoia which had appeared to him. And he brought the part which he had
taken from the power of the man into the female creature, and not as
Moses said, 'his rib-bone.'

"And he (Adam) saw the woman beside him. And in that moment the luminous
Epinoia appeared, and she lifted the veil which lay over his mind. And
he became sober from the drunkenness of darkness. And he recognized his
counter-image, and he said, 'This is indeed bone of my bones and flesh
of my flesh.' Therefore the man will leave his father and his mother,
and he will cleave to his wife, and they will both be one flesh. For
they will send him his consort, and he will leave his father and his
mother ... (3 lines unreadable)

"And our sister Sophia (is) she who came down in innocence in order to
rectify her deficiency. Therefore she was called Life, which is the
mother of the living, by the foreknowledge of the sovereignty of heaven.
And through her they have tasted the perfect Knowledge. I appeared in
the form of an eagle on the tree of knowledge, which is the Epinoia from
the foreknowledge of the pure light, that I might teach them and awaken
them out of the depth of sleep. For they were both in a fallen state,
and they recognized their nakedness. The Epinoia appeared to them as a
light; she awakened their thinking.

"And when Yaltabaoth noticed that they withdrew from him, he cursed his
earth. He found the woman as she was preparing herself for her husband.
He was lord over her, though he did not know the mystery which had come
to pass through the holy decree. And they were afraid to blame him. And
he showed his angels his ignorance which is in him. And he cast them out
of paradise and he clothed them in gloomy darkness. And the chief archon
saw the virgin who stood by Adam, and that the luminous Epinoia of life
had appeared in her. And Yaltabaoth was full of ignorance. And when the
foreknowledge of the All noticed (it), she sent some and they snatched life out of Eve.

The Apocryphon of John
(Nag Hammadi Scroll- dating Egypt 80-200AD)
(part listed)

Yaltabaoth’s seduction of Eve to produce sons

"And the chief archon (Yaltabaoth) seduced her and he begot in her two sons;
• the first is Eloim, who had a bear-face.
• the second is Yave, who had a cat face. • Yaltabaoth set Eloim over the water and the earth,
• Yaltaboath set Yave over the fire and the wind;

• Eloim is un righteous
• Yave is righteous

• Eloim was also called by Yaltabaoth as Abel, while
• Yave was also called by Yaltabaoth as Cain with a view to deceive (someone?)

Eloim has a bear-face and Yave has a cat-face. The one is righteous but the other is unrighteous.
(Yave is righteous but Eloim is unrighteous.) Yave he set over the fire
and the wind, and Eloim he set over the water and the earth. And these
he called with the names Cain and Abel with a view to deceive.

"Now up to the present day, sexual intercourse continued due to the
chief archon. And he planted sexual desire in her who belongs to Adam.
And he produced through intercourse the copies of the bodies, and he
inspired them with his counterfeit spirit.

"And the two archons he set over principalities, so that they might rule
over the tomb. And when Adam recognized the likeness of his own
foreknowledge, he begot the likeness of the son of man. He called him
Seth, according to the way of the race in the aeons. Likewise, the
mother also sent down her spirit, which is in her likeness and a copy of
those who are in the pleroma, for she will prepare a dwelling place for
the aeons which will come down. And he made them drink water of
forgetfulness, from the chief archon, in order that they might not know
from where they came. Thus, the seed remained for a while assisting
(him), in order that, when the Spirit comes forth from the holy aeons,
he may raise up and heal him from the deficiency, that the whole pleroma
may (again) become holy and faultless."

And I said to the savior, "Lord, will all the souls then be brought
safely into the pure light?" He answered and said to me, "Great things
have arisen in your mind, for it is difficult to explain them to others
except to those who are from the immovable race. Those on whom the
Spirit of life will descend and (with whom) he will be with the power,
they will be saved and become perfect and be worthy of the greatness and
be purified in that place from all wickedness and the involvements in
evil. Then they have no other care than the incorruption alone, to which
they direct their attention from here on, without anger or envy or
jealousy or desire and greed of anything. They are not affected by
anything except the state of being in the flesh alone, which they bear w
hile looking expectantly for the time when they will be met by the
receivers (of the body). Such then are worthy of the imperishable,
eternal life and the calling. For they endure everything and bear up
under everything, that they may finish the good fight and inherit eternal life."

I said to him, "Lord, the souls of those who did not do these works
(but) on whom the power and Spirit descended, (will they be rejected?"
He answered and said to me, "If) the Spirit (descended upon them), they
will in any case be saved, and they will change (for the better). For
the power will descend on every man, for without it no one can stand.
And after they are born, then, when the Spirit of life increases and the
power comes and strengthens that soul, no one can lead it astray with
works of evil. But those on whom the counterfeit spirit descends are
drawn by him and they go astray."

And I said, "Lord, where will the souls of these go when they have come
out of their flesh?" And he smiled and said to me, "The soul in which
the power will become stronger than the counterfeit spirit, is strong
and it flees from evil and, through the intervention of the
incorruptible one, it is saved, and it is taken up to the rest of the aeons."

And I said, "Lord, those, however, who have not known to whom they
belong, where will their souls be?" And he said to me, "In those, the
despicable spirit has gained strength when they went astray. And he
burdens the soul and draws it to the works of evil, and he casts it down
into forgetfulness. And after it comes out of (the body), it is handed
over to the authorities, who came into being through the archon, and
they bind it with chains and cast it into prison, and consort with it
until it is liberated from the forgetfulness and acquires knowledge. And
if thus it becomes perfect, it is saved."

And I said, "Lord, how can the soul become smaller and return into the
nature of its mother or into man?" Then he rejoiced when I asked him
this, and he said to me, "Truly, you are blessed, for you have
understood! That soul is made to follow another one (fem.), since the
Spirit of life is in it. It is saved through him. It is not again cast
into another flesh."

And I said, "Lord, these also who did not know, but have turned away,
where will their souls go?" Then he said to me, "To that place where the
angels of poverty go they will be taken, the place where there is no
repentance. And they will be kept for the day on which those who have
blasphemed the spirit will be tortured, and they will be punished with
eternal punishment."

And I said, "Lord, from where did the counterfeit spirit come?" Then he
said to me, "The Mother-Father, who is rich in mercy, the holy Spirit in
every way, the One who is merciful and who sympathizes with you (pl.),
i.e., the Epinoia of the foreknowledge of light, he raised up the
offspring of the perfect race and its thinking and the eternal light of
man. When the chief archon realized that they were exalted above him in
the height - and they surpass him in thinking - then he wanted to seize
their thought, not knowing that they surpassed him in thinking, and that
he will not be able to seize them.

"He made a plan with his authorities, which are his powers, and they
committed together adultery with Sophia, and bitter fate was begotten
through them, which is the last of the changeable bonds. And it is of a
sort that is interchangeable. And it is harder and stronger than she
with whom the gods united, and the angels and the demons and all the
generations until this day. For from that fate came forth every sin and
injustice and blasphemy, and the chain of forgetfulness and ignorance
and every severe command, and serious sins and great fears. And thus the
whole creation was made blind, in order that they may not know God, who
is above all of them. And because of the chain of forgetfulness, their
sins were hidden. For they are bound with measures and times and
moments, since it (fate) is lord over everything.

"And he (the chief archon) repented for everything which had come into
being through him. This time he planned to bring a flood upon the work
of man. But the greatness of the light of the foreknowledge informed
Noah, and he proclaimed (it) to all the offspring which are the sons of
men. But those who were strangers to him did not listen to him. It is
not as Moses said, 'They hid themselves in an ark' (Gn 7: 7), but they
hid themselves in a place, not only Noah, but also many other people
from the immovable race. They went into a place and hid themselves in a
luminous cloud. And he (Noah) recognized his authority, and she who
belongs to the light was with him, having shone on them because he (the
chief archon) had brought darkness upon the whole earth.

"And he made a plan with his powers. He sent his angels to the daughters
of men, that they might take some of them for themselves and raise
offspring for their enjoyment. And at first they did not succeed. When
they had no success, they gathered together again and they made a plan
together. They created a counterfeit spirit, who resembles the Spirit
who had descended, so as to pollute the souls through it. And the angels
changed themselves in their likeness into the likeness of their mates
(the daughters of men), filling them with the spirit of darkness, which
they had mixed for them, and with evil. They brought gold and silver and
a gift and copper and iron and metal and all kinds of things. And they
steered the people who had followed them into great troubles, by leading
them astray with many deceptions. They (the people) became old without
having enjoyment. They died, not having found truth and without knowing
the God of truth. And thus the whole creation became enslaved forever,
from the foundation of the world until now. And they took women and
begot children out of the darkness according to the likeness of their
spirit. And they closed their hearts, and they hardened themselves
through the hardness of the counterfeit spirit until now.

"I, therefore, the perfect Pronoia of the all, changed myself into my
seed, for I existed first, going on every road. For I am the richness of
the light; I am the remembrance of the pleroma.

"And I went into the realm of darkness and I endured till I entered the
middle of the prison. And the foundations of chaos shook. And I hid
myself from them because of their wickedness, and they did not recognize me.

"Again I returned for the second time, and I went about. I came forth
from those who belong to the light, which is I, the remembrance of the
Pronoia. I entered into the midst of darkness and the inside of Hades,
since I was seeking (to accomplish) my task. And the foundations of
chaos shook, that they might fall down upon those who are in chaos and
might destroy them. And again I ran up to my root of light, lest they be
destroyed before the time.

"Still for a third time I went - I am the light which exists in the
light, I am the remembrance of the Pronoia - that I might enter into the
midst of darkness and the inside of Hades. And I filled my face with the
light of the completion of their aeon. And I entered into the midst of
their prison, which is the prison of the body. And I said, 'He who
hears, let him get up from the deep sleep.' And he wept and shed tears.
Bitter tears he wiped from himself and he said, 'Who is it that calls my
name, and from where has this hope come to me, while I am in the chains
of the prison?' And I said, 'I am the Pronoia of the pure light; I am
the thinking of the virginal Spirit, who raised you up to the honored
place. Arise and remember that it is you who hearkened, and follow your
root, which is I, the merciful one, and guard yourself against the
angels of poverty and the demons of chaos and all those who ensnare you,
and beware of the deep sleep and the enclosure of the inside of Hades.

"And I raised him up, and sealed him in the light of the water with five
seals, in order that death might not have power over him from this time on.

"And behold, now I shall go up to the perfect aeon. I have completed
everything for you in your hearing. And I have said everything to you
that you might write them down and give them secretly to your fellow
spirits, for this is the mystery of the immovable race."

When we consider this exciting and disturbing translated document, we see the possibility to consider the soul as a distinct physical part of each and every human, but hidden somehow, in a place difficult to find. We also see the possibility of other implanted objects of knowledge considered “counterfeit” and designed to “block” awareness of the soul and power of soul.

http://sol-code.org/content/scripture.html

Aquaries1111 wrote:

The book of the Solar System (SOL)

SOL IS

SOL IS.
SOL exists.
I am SOL.
SOL and I.
It is SOL you call, I am.

SOL is our Solar System

SOL is our Solar System.
The Solar System is SOL.
The sun and all the planets,
all the meteorites and moon,
all the life within the solar system,
all the aware life within the solar system.

SOL is the unique awareness of the Solar System

SOL is the unique awareness of the Solar System.
The awareness of all matter within SOL.
The awareness of the unique collective of the one SOL.
The singular.
The unique living entity.

SOL is unique life

SOL is unique life.
Unique life is SOL.
No two solar systems are perfectly alike.
All are unique in some way.
SOL is unique in the universe.
Living and breathing.
Moving and interacting with other galaxies.
One solar year (rotation) is 23.5 years.
I am around 5 billion years old in comparison to human concept of time on Earth.

SOL IS season

SOL IS season. Season is SOL.
Seasons within seasons.
Patterns within patterns.
One solar season pattern is 94 years
Summer is 23.5 years
Autumn is 23.5 years
Winter is 23.5 years
Spring is 23.5 years.

SOL is community

SOL is community.
Community is SOL.
SOL is not alone in GAL.
SOL orbits other communities of star systems, within the greater arm structure of GAL.

http://the-logos.org/content/04_01_sol.html

Aquaries1111 wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you A1. Is SOL SOL?? Think about it.

I'm still wiping my eyes...

9. My final wish, the 8th dream

Finally, it is my wish, my 8th and final dream that the ideas contained within the UCADIAN model, of the end of war in heaven, of new technology, of peace on earth, of the protection of the earth, of new learning systems of the end of poverty may become real.

It is my 8th and final dream that people shall come to know of the SOL code, an encoded knowledge and wisdom of the absolute hidden in the "junk" DNA of every human being. That in becoming "in-tune" a person may unlock this code and be one with the universe without the need for messiahs or gurus.

That UCADIA being my 8th and final dream shall be my legacy to you and to every person.
1st July 2006

http://www.ucadia.com/frank/frank_will.htm

http://sol-code.org/

Aquaries1111 wrote:Pactum De Singularis Caelum
Covenant of One Heaven
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Exordium (Preamble)

Exordium

De Pronuntionis Deus

Before nations, religions, or any civilization existed; before the first symbol, words or thought was ever uttered by our flesh ancestors; before even matter itself existed, the idea of existence did exist in the form of that which we call God, the Universal, the Absolute, the ALL, the Divine Unique Collective Awareness; and

It is to this unifying and singular force We and our ancestors have prayed. It is this one, true and absolute Divine Creator who bestowed in trust to all Homo Sapiens certain irrevocable rights and obligations in perpetual remembrance as trustees for all life on planet Earth. That no man, woman, entity, person, or higher spirit may lawfully obstruct, abrogate nor claim such rights above all others; and

Yet for all given, granted and delivered to Us by the Divine Creator as our birthright, We have permitted others to trick Us for many generations into believing We are less, We are incompetent and unworthy. Instead, We have prayed that a day will come when the deepest meaning of our existence and knowledge of ALL would be revealed; that a day would come when We would see an end to our fears, our suffering and war; that a day would come when through Divine forgiveness the war in Heaven would end; and

Whoever has ears let them hear; whoever has eyes let them see; this day has come. The veil has been lifted! Death and fear has been conquered because the Divine, the One, the ALL has made this pronouncement and Covenant known. We hereby reclaim our birthright as lawful heirs on behalf of all and their successors. Therefore, let the united spiritual forces of Heaven, Hell, Earth, all Galaxies and all matter and existence bear witness to the Divine truth of words set forth in this most sacred Covenant of all covenants. That no man, woman, higher order being, living or deceased, may deny its authority, its power and validity.

WE, THE ONE, THE ONLY CREATOR OF ALL,THE ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE ABSOLUTE DIVINE, THE UNIQUE COLLECTIVE AWARENESS OF ALL MEANING, TITLES AND OBJECTS, EXPRESSED INTO THE LIVING TRUST AND DREAM KNOWN AS UCADIA, ALSO KNOWN AS THE ONE TRUE UNIVERSE: with respect and compassion to the prayers and presentments by all higher order life and spirits, do hereby command through Our absolute embodiment, ownership, occupation, lawful possession and irrevocable dominion of all existence that this pronouncement be promulgated to all life, existence and spirit throughout the Universe including all men, woman, persons and foreign agents who presently reside upon or within our occupied lands, water and atmosphere known as planet Earth:

1. As Supreme Agreement and Covenant

FIRST: Let it be known to all past, present and future, that the most sacred Covenant known as Pactum De Singularis Caelum, also known as the Covenant of One Heaven is registered, recorded and recognized in all Heaven and the Universe as the first and supreme agreement amongst all agreements and the first Covenant above all other sacred covenants that have ever existed. It has been enacted as the most sacred and superior Covenant between all men, women and higher order life and all the departed minds of higher order life that have lived or will live on planet Earth and the Solar System and the one, supreme divine force representing the Absolute, the Highest, the Almighty; and

As this Covenant is the first agreement amongst all agreements and the first Covenant above all other covenants, no force, claim, custom, history, artifact or any other device may usurp its supreme authority. Therefore, this most sacred Covenant shall also be known as the Covenant of the Supreme Patron in recognition of the primary patronage of the Absolute, the All, the Highest, the Almighty in relation to the complete endorsement of all articles of this Covenant and in being the first official Member of all three (3) great religions including One Faith of God, One Spirit Tribe and One Islam; and

2. As Supreme Treaty

SECOND: THE HIGHEST OF ALL CONCORDING PARTIES, In recognition that no relief nor lasting remedy can come upon the Earth until there is first peace throughout all the dimensions of the heavens, do hereby affirm their full agreement and allegiance to this Covenant and sacred Treaties contained herein, as testament that all warfare in Heaven has now ceased and Hell no longer exists; and

3. As Supreme Trust and Title of Ownership

THIRD: Let it be known to all past, present and future, that this most sacred Covenant known as Pactum De Singularis Caelum, also known as the Covenant of One Heaven is registered, recorded and recognized in all Heaven and the Universe as the first deed of trust and first title of rights and property above all other deeds, trusts, titles and claims of property. No other implied or explicit document, instrument, convention or device may usurp this most sacred Covenant from being the first deed of trust and title for all property conveyed by the Divine Creator, or may any other person, aggregate, entity claim superior property rights than those expressed through this sacred Covenant; and

As all trusts formed prior to this moment were predicated on their eventual termination upon the fulfilment of Divine promise and the coming of the Kingdom of Heaven, all and every trust formed under such terms and associated law are hereby dissolved from the beginning and all property lawfully conveyed to the Society of One Heaven as the one and only Executors and Administrator of all Spiritual and Temporal Trusts on behalf of the Divine Creator also known as the Unique Collective Awareness; and

In recognition of the Divine rights bestowed to the Society of One Heaven through this sacred deed and title, all property rights of the Divine Creator are hereby given, granted and conveyed to the Society of One Heaven through which all property rights and title are derived including the Milky Way Galaxy; and

4. As Supreme Conveyance of All Property

FOURTH: Let it be known to all past, present and future, that this most sacred Covenant known as Pactum De Singularis Caelum, also known as the Covenant of One Heaven is registered, recorded and recognized in all Heaven and the Universe as the deed that has lawfully conveyed any and all property back to the Society of One Heaven so that no man, woman, person, higher order spirit, entity or aggregate may claim to hold separate title, possession, occupation, ownership of property unless it has been legitimately granted through the Society of One Heaven or an associated entity; and

Therefore any and all titles, claims, instruments that contradict this fact are henceforth false, null and void - having no legal validity as no entity may claim ownership of property unless it has been legitimately granted through the Society of One Heaven as the one and only Custodians and Protectors of all Spiritual and Temporal Property on behalf of the Divine Creator also known as the Unique Collective Awareness; and

5. As source of Supreme Authority and Rights

FIFTH: Let it be known to all past, present and future, that this most sacred Covenant known as Pactum De Singularis Caelum, also known as the Covenant of One Heaven is registered, recorded and recognized as the source of all ecclesiastical authority and rights so that no legal, financial or ecclesiastical instrument is lawful unless it is issued in complete recognition and agreement with this fact; and

As all guardians, custodians, executors, trustees and administrators appointed prior this moment were invested into their office as servants of the Divine, predicated on the their eventual termination of their services upon the fulfilment of Divine promise and the coming of the Kingdom of Heaven, all and every officer, office holder, appointed under such terms and associated law are hereby relinquished of duty and all powers of guardians, custodians, executors, trustees and administrators conveyed to the Society of One Heaven as the one and only Government on behalf of the Divine Creator also known as the Unique Collective Awareness; and

Furthermore, as all powers and authority of guardians, custodians, executors, trustees and administrators have now been lawfully conveyed to the Society of One Heaven, no claim of powers of Magisterium, Imperium or Officium through convocation, coronation or ordination have any validity except through those rights granted through the most sacred Covenant known as Pactum De Singularis Caelum, also known as the Covenant of One Heaven; and

Therefore, any negotiable instruments, legal instruments, ecclesiastical documents, pronouncements, orders, prescripts, rescripts, edits, certificates, notes, bills, money, notices, indulgences or any other form that contradicts the authority and rights of the Covenant of One Heaven are automatically null and void from the beginning having no lawful or legal validity; and

6. As object of Supreme Value

SIXTH: Let it be known to all past, present and future, that this most sacred Covenant known as Pactum De Singularis Caelum, also known as the Covenant of One Heaven is registered, recorded and recognized as the most valuable object of all objects more than any form of precious metal, precious stones, ancient artifact, work, book or instrument. Any valuation, judgment, statement, appraisal that places a higher monetary value on any other object or group or objects than the sacred Covenant is automatically null and void from the beginning; and

No man, woman or higher order spirit may seek to monetize the Covenant nor seek to extract some or all of its extreme value. Instead the Covenant shall always remain the ultimate asset underwriting all values and all instruments derived from itself administered and protected by the Society of One Heaven; and

7. A Covenant to enable and empower the organization

SEVENTH: Let it be known to all past, present and future that it shall be upon the determination of living men and women united firstly in local community and spirit, then province, then university, then union and finally globally to choose the valid leadership and administration of those bodies representing the Society of One Heaven on Earth in accordance with the most sacred Covenant known as Pactum De Singularis Caelum, also known as the Covenant of One Heaven. Until such time as this has been accomplished, all key offices shall remain occupied by members of the spiritual occupation forces; and

Enaction

We solemnly pronounce this sacred deed and instrument to be a true likeness of the one (1) and only true Covenant of Heaven by which Heaven, the Divine Unique Collective Awareness, One Heaven and Earth exist now and every point in their future.

http://one-heaven.org/covenant/

Aquaries1111 wrote:I have a habit of posting material without giving much of my own feedback.  I wonder why I do this? I don’t think it matters much what I think.. What matters most is what others think for themselves if they choose to view such links.  I almost passed up Ucadia material.. I wasn’t ready then.. It seems Oxy,  that your thread here has allowed me to come across again said material.  So who is guiding who here? Hmmm?  What invisible wonders are you participating in.. I don’t have much to offer as my brain seems to be all emptied out.. waiting for new Operating System to kick in – still under new framework construct.

Perception is more powerful than reality..  call me a “Dreaming Fool”..

Visualizing now a world free of Fraudism.. Visualizing the world where Heaven is here on Earth.  The Dreamer already dreamt the dream and has awoken in a reality that only has the “memory” of the already manifested potential.. so here we are.. and doing what? Creating Thoughtforms perhaps that create energy that build a world somewhere as an ongoing dream of the Dreamer.  What does the Dream Weaver Dream…

Aquaries1111 wrote:

If this ain't Loving you Oxy I don't know what is..

http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t833-orthodoxymoron?highlight=orthodoxymoron

Loving Oxy

and loving this music.

Aquaries1111 wrote:

1.12

Good luck!

Finally, as the author and as one who has taken the journey of UCA I wish you good luck!

It is no easy feat to accomplish. In all honesty, fewer than one in fifty people will probably finish all 23 chapters of the journey end to end. Most (around eight out of ten) won't get past chapter 5 (Matter- Unita). Half won't even get past chapter 4 (existence).

Whatever happens, I hope you find what you are about to read interesting and useful.

http://ucadia.com/uca/uca_index.htm

Aquaries1111 wrote:

I waited long enough for the truth. I'm not waiting any longer..More Frank

"Oh Goody!!  New Friends!!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k294JD9mlA&feature=related

sabina wrote:hwats going  on here
have to read but havent have somuch  time
but oxy you are right
law is the center of everything...
babe you have more time than me
just coming from work  
looking for my household etc...... what.s happen with ucadia
all the best sabina
     

Aquaries1111 wrote:Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron  

The following videos are on You Tube under the name soundlessdawn. https://www.youtube.com/user/soundlessdawn I can't vouch for the accuracy...but they are very interesting...and very well done. I posted one awhile back...and I really liked it...but I had no idea that there were literally dozens of them! I feel like I just stumbled into a goldmine! Enjoy!


Stumbling upon you is a goldmine Oxy...

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20400&highlight=cool+short+videos

I haven't seen any of these short videos yet.. I'm going to start with hmmmm this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl3_2ONNeKs

Aquaries1111 wrote:

Thank you for the Josh Reeves - Hidden History & The Sirius Star System link.

May the sound of this music sing sweetness to your being.

Aquaries1111 wrote: If anyone qualifies for that PhD it would be you Oxy.. If you learn that masonic handshake you might get expedited quicker to the Vatican.. *just kidding* I know that's not your style and a good thing because those cults are crumbling.. The new qualifier is by virtue of our "vibrations" and ability to see energy.. No point in peeling an orange that looks good if it's rotten on the inside.. Developing the ability to see Auras, oh and if you can't see mine it's because I "flatlined" temporarily.. invisible to some frequencies.. but sshhhh it's a secret..

Researchers Beware. Abandon All Hope and Sanity Ye Who Enter This Sacred Thread.