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    Post  devakas Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:00 pm

    This is so so sad...

    29 people killed, others injured

    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23CTshooting&src=hash

    imho Woman should be nurturing mother to grow kids mature, pure heart, strong personalities, strong and righteous persons. Woman should not become doctors or lawyers first. the most important job is to grow humans as humans and to dedicate all time to kids.

    However society is not taught properly, humans cannot expect anything better..
    sorry for sad news from Connecticut

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    Post  JesterTerrestrial Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:41 pm

    This is tragic news.

    And there is lots of chatter about this regarding 2 or 1 shooters and weather this was a psy ops attack...

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    Post  devakas Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:36 pm

    the problem is that people are lost, they dont know what they are doing. The values of human life, the values of honesty, goodness in general is not hot topics in society.
    even leaders of counties when they meet they do not talk about spiritual development. about giving, not taking. if they talk about quality of life they end up about economic development no matter what. when humans are happy, they right away are taught to get material things. Krist becomes ho ho ho... and people do not know goodness without material satisfaction.

    frustration what is left for society in ignorance

    btw JT can you describe starhuman?
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    Post  magamud Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:54 pm

    I can tell you the mental illness that is ravaging our planet will cause many more of these horrid consequences. My instincts tell me this killer was schizophrenic. There is an epidemic of young kids getting this sickness and not knowing it or getting treatment. I would presume his motivation was to save the children he killed. That is, he was saving the kids from the torture of life. Its a reflection of the doublethink in our society. The truth movement can easily be used to trigger the mentally ill.
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    Post  devakas Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:26 pm

    magamud wrote:I can tell you the mental illness that is ravaging our planet will cause many more of these horrid consequences. My instincts tell me this killer was schizophrenic. There is an epidemic of young kids getting this sickness and not knowing it or getting treatment. I would presume his motivation was to save the children he killed. That is, he was saving the kids from the torture of life. Its a reflection of the doublethink in our society. The truth movement can easily be used to trigger the mentally ill.

    When mind is stronger than intelligence there is a problem.
    How it works there are consciousness, intelligence and mental speculation platforms.

    when a person who does not control his/her mind, he/she posts something which they would not like to share to their kid or explain to a kid. then it is a red flag.
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    Post  Carol Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:38 am

    I had read that he was austistic but how could an autistic kid or even one who schizophrenic have it together enough to do something like this? There are just too many unanswered questions with regard to this terrible tragedy.


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    Post  enemyofNWO Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:52 am

    JesterTerrestrial wrote:This is tragic news.

    And there is lots of chatter about this regarding 2 or 1 shooters and weather this was a psy ops attack...



    MK ULTRA is still alive and well . In past episodes massacres have been committed by youths who were attending college . I have a feeling that colleges are implicated in MK Ultra programs . It's strange !
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    Post  enemyofNWO Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:56 am

    Carol wrote:I had read that he was austistic but how could an autistic kid or even one who schizophrenic have it together enough to do something like this? There are just too many unanswered questions with regard to this terrible tragedy.



    Carol , read about the Port Arthur massacre In Australia . A scapegoat with intelligence below average was used as the guilty party when in reality a professional assassin was the real criminal . It was a ruse to disarm the population .
    Watch the crocodile tears of the CIA president !
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    Post  magamud Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:50 am

    I had read that he was austistic but how could an autistic kid or even one who schizophrenic have it together enough to do something like this? There are just too many unanswered questions with regard to this terrible tragedy.
    A motivated schizophrenic or even someone with an autism spectrum can do this type of stuff. They are highly and I mean highly intelligent in certain areas. We usually see their deficits in social skills. I suspect the real diversion is from this line of knowledge and narrative. Redirection being its Gun control or its MK ultra type of stuff or its religious. The real discussion should be what is mental illness. Again mental illness is in epidemic proportions. The US govt states around 1 percent of the population has Schizophrenia. From my experience the dangerous type is at 10% with an infected amount being higher then this.

    All this disease is amplified due to the war on our species. You have to just go in your backyard to see this.
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    Post  Brook Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:52 am

    It feels like a ritual murder to me. MKultra....and the whole lot.

    So I spent some time this morning to do some research on the date December 14th

    As I've been seeing a trend to Dates. First off....notice that Wikipedia wasted no time to add this to the "date list".

    Scrolling on down. I wanted to see if there was a Coptic/Anglican connection in the Date as I've noticed a trend....like 9/11 was the "feast of Martyrs".



    Well on the way to the bottom of the list I noticed December is the Saint's day feast of Martyrs for John of the Cross...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_14

    Honored in: Roman Catholic Church; Anglican Communion; Lutheran Church

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_John_of_the_Cross

    John of the Cross, O.C.D., (San Juan de la Cruz) (1542[1] – 14 December 1591), was a major figure of the Counter-Reformation, a Spanish mystic, Roman Catholic saint, Carmelite friar and priest, born at Fontiveros, Old Castile.

    Then I read one of his Literary works on this Coptic Calendar date of Koiak


    Koiak

    Koiak also known as Kiahk is the fourth month of the Coptic calendar. It lies between December 10 and January 8 of the Gregorian calendar. The month of Koiak is also the fourth month of the Season of 'Akhet' (Inundation) in Ancient Egypt, where the Nile floods cover the land of Egypt. The name of the month of Koiak comes from Ka Ha Ka, which means Good of Good, a name of the Ancient Egyptian sacred Apis Bull.
    Correction: Ka Ha Ka means Spirit of Spirit...it does not mean "good of good"





    Dark night of the Soul
    Saint John of the Cross

    On a darkened night,
    Anxious, by love inflamed,
    -- O happy chance! --
    Unnoticed, I took flight,
    My house at last at peace and quiet.

    Safe, disguised by the night,
    By the secret ladder I took flight,
    -- O happy chance! --
    Cloaked by darkness, I scaled the height,
    My house at last at peace and quiet.

    On that blessed night,
    In secret, and seen by none,
    None in sight,
    I saw with no other guide or light,
    But the one burning in my heart bright.

    This guide, this light,
    Brighter than the midday sun,
    Led me to the waiting One
    I knew so well -- my delight!
    To a place with none in sight.

    O night! O guide!
    O night more loving than the dawn!
    O night that joined
    The lover with the Beloved;
    Transformed, the lover into the Beloved drawn!

    Upon my flowered breast,
    For him alone kept fair,
    There he slept
    There I caressed,
    There the cedars gave us air.

    I drank the turret's cool air
    Spreading playfully his hair.
    And his hand, so serene,
    Cut my throat. Drained
    Of senses, I dropped unaware.

    Lost to myself and yet remaining,
    Inclined so only the Beloved I spy.
    All has ceased, all rests,
    Even my cares, even I;
    Lost among the lilies, there I die.


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    Post  Carol Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:43 am

    There is a very interesting thread at GLP with the following data. http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2081996/pg1

    MASSIVE MK-ULTRA Coverup of the PsyOp at Sandy Hook School shooting in Connecticut

    Notes to review:


    1. Is there a record of the purported lone gunman practicing shooting? Local gun range, just off in the woods, what?
    "Chillingly accurate" http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/us-school-shooting-in-connecticut-28-dead-including-killer-305680

    all dead, none wounded?

    Why did they leave the bodies in the school until nightfall to remove them -- for over 12 hours? Is that normal practice?

    2. How many guns were there? Why did the substitute mom have 5 registered guns including tactical weapons? If it was just the two pistols he had with him, how could he get off 'hundreds of shots' within a few minutes.
    http://news.msn.com/us/conn-gunman-recalled-as-intelligent-but-remote and links elsewhere"

    "Authorities say Adam Lanza shot his mother at their home, then drove her car to Sandy Hook Elementary School and — armed with at least two handguns — carried out the massacre.
    A third weapon, a .223-caliber rifle, was found in the car, and more guns were recovered during the investigation."

    conflicting with: http://news.msn.com/us/officials-suspect-had-ties-to-school

    "The official said that a gun used in the attacks is a .223-caliber rifle." How is that possible if the rifle was in the car and he took in to hand-guns. And why would a school teacher have more then one automatic hand-gun?

    Seems State Media MSN rapidly and consistently contradicts itself throughout.
    The rifle was found in the car, but it was used in the attacks. Which is it?

    Why does mom have "Lanza's rifle was similar to a weapon widely used by troops in Afghanistan and Iraq." ?

    3. Head's up for pre-crime gadget implementation:
    http://t.news.msn.com/us/experts-conn-school-could-not-have-prevented-shooting

    "Security experts say prior knowledge is one of the only ways to prevent school shootings.

    U.S. school districts have spent millions of dollars on metal detectors, security cameras and elaborate emergency-response plans since the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School, but almost nothing could have prevented Friday's massacre at a Connecticut elementary school, security experts say. ...

    "The school could not have stopped it without prior knowledge that he was coming," said Bill Bond, a school safety specialist and former high school principal who had a deadly student shooting on his watch."

    IF it couldn't have been prevented, why this?

    "Still, Bond said, there is no way for students and teachers to protect themselves when someone begins shooting with a weapon. He said even a security guard and locked doors could not have stopped the killer.

    Without knowing the school's security system, Kenneth Trump, president of consulting firm National School Safety and Security Services, stresses that schools need to be "looking for these lone wolf actors."

    But he has seen the danger drop at schools in the wake of Columbine. Dozens of shootings have been thwarted by students, teachers and principals sharing information and warning about students with weapons or plans to kill.

    "There was a substantial amount of progress in the months and years after Columbine in prevention, security and emergency preparedness in our schools," said Trump. "A lot of those measures have become part of the school culture." But he worries about maintaining that culture in the future because of budget constraints. As the risk of violence has increased because of the stress inflicted by the struggling economy, the time and funding allocated to these prevention and safety programs have declined."

    4. (from same link above), I also believe it may well be 'the same as what happened in Aurora'

    "This is going to go down as a school shooting, but it's exactly what happened in Aurora," said Bond, referring to the mass shooting by a lone gunman at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo., in July that left 12 dead and 58 wounded. "That was a movie theater, this was a school," he added.

    5. Note RT's coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1c5VnqIdxQ&feature=youtu.be

    6. What's up with the second gunman? Error?:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/038352_school_shooting_lone_gunman_media_cover-up.html
    http://www.ravallirepublic.com/vmix_310426da-3a79-5798-8ae2-aba15d2e5f7d.html

    7. May be off topic, but are there really still 'pocket protectors'? --
    Other than that, the genius thing, another similarity to Aurora/Holmes:
    http://news.msn.com/us/conn-gunman-recalled-as-intelligent-but-remote

    "Adam Lanza attended Newtown High School, and news clippings from recent years show him on the honor roll. Joshua Milas, a classmate who was in the technology club with Lanza, said that he was generally a happy person but that he hadn't seen him in a few years.

    "We would hang out, and he was a good kid. He was smart," said Milas, who graduated in 2009. "He was probably one of the smartest kids I know. He was probably a genius."

    The tech club held "LAN parties" — short for local area network — in which students would gather at a member's home, hook up their computers into a small network and play games. Gloria Milas, Joshua's mother, said Adam Lanza's mother hosted one of the parties.

    She recalled a school meeting in 2008 organized by the gunman's mother to try to save the job of the club's adviser. At the meeting, Milas said, Adam Lanza's brother Ryan said a few words in support of the adviser, who he said had taken his brother under his wing.
    "My brother has always been a nerd," Ryan Lanza said then, according to Milas. "He still wears a pocket protector."

    8. Parents -- dad is tax director for G.E.; saw nothing out of the ordinary. Opinion conflicts with suggestion of 'possible mental disorder' ...? which the other son mentioned.
    msn ... hmm

    http://news.msn.com/us/conn-gunman-recalled-as-intelligent-but-remote

    "Lanza's parents filed for divorce in 2008, according to court records. His father, Peter Lanza, lives in Stamford, Conn., according to public records, and he reportedly works as a tax director for General Electric.

    Lanza's aunt Marsha Lanza, of Crystal Lake, Ill., said her nephew was raised by kind, nurturing parents who would not have hesitated to seek mental help for him if he needed it.

    If her son had needed counseling, "Nancy wasn't one to deny reality," she said Friday. Marsha Lanza said her husband had seen Adam as recently as June and recalled nothing out of the ordinary."

    9. ? the lone gunman either had several connections to the school, or nothing recent, or several. The mom was a substitute teacher, but is not on any staff list or any connection found.

    http://news.msn.com/us/officials-suspect-had-ties-to-school

    vs

    http://news.msn.com/us/conn-gunman-recalled-as-intelligent-but-remote

    "A law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity said investigators believe Adam Lanza attended Sandy Hook school several years ago but appeared to have no recent connection to the place.

    At least one parent said Adam Lanza's mother was a substitute teacher there. But her name did not appear on a staff list. And the law enforcement official said investigators were unable to establish any connection so far between her and the school.

    An official who spoke on condition of anonymity said it was not clear that Adam Lanza had a job, and there was no indication of law enforcement interviews or search warrants at a place of business.

    10. Why did lone gunman have Ryan's, his brother's, ID? Why did Ryan know or suggest this, if he hadn't seen him in a couple of years?

    11. Who admitted the lone gunman?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

    "According to a letter sent to parents at the beginning of the year, the school had recently upgraded its security protocol, requiring visitors to be individually admitted after visual and identification review over a video monitor;"

    "Adam Lanza may have been admitted to the school by the principal because he was recognized as the son of a colleague.[15] He was described as wearing black military-style gear, including a bullet-proof vest[16][17] and a mask during the shootings."

    So ... the principal admitted a guy wearing black military-style gear and -- or at least carrying something bulk enough to be 'military style gear, bullet proof vest, mask, and at least two handguns or a rifle?

    Am I getting this right?


    12. note: it took SIX MINUTES? before anyone called 911?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

    ie, shooting started at 9:35, 911 call was at 9:41.

    13. Did Adam have autism or aspergers, or what? Did he have friends, or not? Friends are quoted as saying he was generally happy and probably 'a genius'. HE had parties; LAN parties -- his mom hosted one.

    14. Were any teachers or students or other staff, who normally would be present that day, not there -- due to interesting circumstances? What are their other connections?


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    Post  Carol Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:27 pm

    Police find "good evidence" on motive for Connecticut school massacre
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/15/us-connecticut-towns-idUSBRE8BD0U120121215

    CONN. POLICE FIND 'VERY GOOD EVIDENCE' ON GUNMAN
    Police shed no light on the motive for the second-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history. The gunman forced his way into the kindergarten-through-fourth-grade school, authorities said. He took three guns into the school - a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both semiautomatic pistols, and a .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle, according to an official who spoke on the condition of anonymity. The weapons were registered to his slain mother. In Newtown, Robert Licata said his 6-year-old son was in class when the gunman burst in and shot the teacher. "That's when my son grabbed a bunch of his friends and ran out the door," he said. "He was very brave. He waited for his friends." He said the shooter didn't say a word. HTTP://HOSTED.AP.ORG/DYNAMIC/STORIES/U/US_CONNECTICUT_SCHOOL_SHOOTING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-12-14-20-56-42


    Connecticut Shooter Adam Lanza: 'Obviously Not Well'
    A Sig Sauer handgun and a Glock handgun were used in the slayings and .223 shell casings – a round used in a semi-automatic military-style rifle -- were also found at the scene. Nancy Lanza had numerous weapons registered to her, including a Glock and a Sig Sauer. She also owned a Bushmaster rifle -- a semi-automatic carbine chambered for a .223 caliber round. However, federal authorities cannot confirm that the handguns or the rifle were the weapons recovered at the school. HTTP://ABCNEWS.GO.COM/BLOTTER/CONNECTICUT-SHOOTER-ADAM-LANZA/STORY?ID=17975673#.UMZGQ6VVNZR


    At least 27 people, including 20 children, shot dead at elementary school in Connecticut
    HTTP://WWW.NYPOST.COM/P/NEWS/LOCAL/POTENTIAL_CONNECTICUT_SCHOOL_SHOOTING_8HMOSBP38TXWSYYSVGKYLO


    School gunman Adam Lanza ‘a loner’ and ‘one of the goths’
    HTTP://WWW.THESUN.CO.UK/SOL/HOMEPAGE/NEWS/4699332/NEWTOWN-SCHOOL-GUNMAN-ADAM-LANZA-A-LONER.HTML


    Real Or Fake? “I’m Going to Kill Myself on Friday and it Will Make the News”
    HTTP://WWW.INFOWARS.COM/IM-GOING-TO-KILL-MYSELF-ON-FRIDAY-AND-IT-WILL-MAKE-THE-NEWS/


    A Gunman, Recalled as Intelligent and Shy, Who Left Few Footprints in Life
    HTTP://WWW.NYTIMES.COM/2012/12/15/NYREGION/ADAM-LANZA-AN-ENIGMA-WHO-IS-NOW-IDENTIFIED-AS-A-MASS-KILLER.HTML?HP&_R=0


    Newtown gunman tried to buy rifle days before shooting
    Adam Lanza, 20, went to a Dick's Sporting Goods store in Danbury, Conn., on Tuesday to buy the weapon, but was turned down because he didn't want to undergo a background check or abide by the state's waiting period for gun sales, the officials said. Still, Lanza was heavily armed when he forced his way into the school Friday morning – after killing his mother at their home in Newtown. Previously, officials had said Lanza was armed with two pistols as he rampaged through the suburban school and that the weapons were legally purchased and registered to his mother, Nancy.Police have also determined Lanza, 20, was not buzzed into Sandy Hook, where he was once a student.The officials said he had four handguns on him as he stormed the 600-student school and shot his victims – clustered in two classrooms – at close range. There was a rifle found in the car he drove to Sandy Hook. “He forced his way into the school,” Vance said. HTTP://USNEWS.NBCNEWS.COM/_NEWS/2012/12/15/15926718-NEWTOWN-GUNMAN-TRIED-TO-BUY-RIFLE-DAYS-BEFORE-SHOOTING?LITE


    Connecticut school shooting: 'Screams were coming over the intercom'
    HTTP://USNEWS.NBCNEWS.COM/_NEWS/2012/12/14/15910703-CONNECTICUT-SCHOOL-SHOOTING-SCREAMS-WERE-COMING-OVER-THE-INTERCOM?LITE


    Principal killed in shooting posted of lifelong learning awaiting ‘Kinders’
    HTTP://WWW.WASHINGTONTIMES.COM/NEWS/2012/DEC/14/PRINCIPAL-KILLED-SHOOTING-POSTED-LIFELONG-LEARNING/


    Connecticut shooting: How it happened
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20738998




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