Floyd wrote:Owlsden lady..do me a favour..drop HS a pm and tell him to get his arse over here if you wouldnt mind. Im not sure he is aware of us. I notice he hasnt posted a thing since I was kicked anyway. waste of talent.
His input would be marvelous.
Tell him I'll buy him a pint.
Thanks in advance.
Seeing as you're having a dialogue about the state of Camelot and the 'truth community' at large, I may as well throw my two cents in and tell people the story from my perspective. As Floyd will know, I am renowned for my extended posts on Camelot as I always feel that if something is worth saying, it's worth saying properly, so I hope folk with bear with me..
As far as I can see, Camelot serves a purpose in diverting newcomers to the 'truth movement', and sending them off into the realm of disinformation and manageable topics which do not threaten the power structure in any tangible way. It was one of the first platforms I encountered in my early forays into the unknown, and it hooked me in with all kinds of sensational stories about aliens and UFO's and cosmic spectacle of all manner. It is obviously very appealing to the newcomer, as it provides an exciting, thrilling narrative that is much more interesting than the dry, mundane pages that one has to pour through in order to find the disparate few quotes that truly betray the global agenda. For these reasons, I feel it was no accident that I stumbled across Camelot in the early days, and I tend to think that they have unofficially been given authorization to do that very job, in catering to a certain personality type (mainly the new-age inclined) and keeping them in the 'safe zone' of speculative, unprovable topics; before they get a chance to look into other, more useful topics which have the potential to affect change in the real world.
As my journey progressed though, I began to 'mature' in my perspective of this whole situation, and realized that most of the 'truth movement' is as contrived and controlled as the mainstream media - some platforms and pundits more controlled than others, but all of them catering to different persuasions and demographics. I began to realize that most of the information out there has been deliberately put out there do disable you in some way; either because the information itself false and misleading, or the context in which it is being presented encourages a predictable and manageable response (Alex Jones etc). Don't get me wrong, there is certainly some truth at the core of the UFO issue, and perhaps other related issues as well, but it seems that Camelot's role in all of this is to keep their audience off in fantasyland, where they are chasing reptiles round the galaxy, looking for stargates, or waiting for a comet to come down and park itself above NYC.. In short, people are sitting around being entertained while they wait for some cosmic third party to come along and affect change for them. What better way to disable people from being critical and active about real issues?
The more I realized this was the case, the more I started suggesting it on the Camelot forum, and others like Floyd joined in to try and tip the balance back toward real issues and encourage people to consider the bigger picture. I think we must have met with some degree of success, because I noticed the narrative start to change over the course of a few months, and people generally became a lot more critical and analytical than they had been before. It was at this point that 'FJCamper' turned up, and started attacking me, Floyd and a few others. He was obviously a disinformation/cointel agent, because he tried to ridicule anything that was serious and legitimate, whilst trying legitimize anything that was ridiculous or speculative. He was obviously trying to tip the balance back towards the fantastic, unprovable topics, and away from the real, important topics. I think that collectively (me, Floyd and a couple of others) had a real impact on the overall narrative of the Camelot forum, and we were guiding it out of the 'safe zone' and into the 'danger zone' of real issues. I think that forums like Camelot are closely monitored to make sure that they are filled with speculation and disinformation, and whenever this changes, someone is sent in to repair the damage and put things back on track, so that a 'ripple effect' does not occur; where the trend catches on and an increasing number of people start questioning the disinformation.
I feel that a great deal hinges on sociological profiling and the management of cultural memes and trends within 'thresholds'; as unpredictable changes in how a society thinks are the most dangerous thing to a control system, and so any 'unauthorized' trends must be nipped in the bud before they can grow and spread beyond the threshold limit. This will be no less true in the various demographics in the truth movement. The calibre of material that Camelot focuses on is no threat whatsoever to the power structure, because none of it can be actively proven or used to affect change, but if the focus in Camelot starts to shift toward real issues, then that would represent a potential threat, as the meticulously balanced sociological landscape could start taking on an unpredictable (and thus unmanageable) trend. We observed this with FJCamper, who virulently attacked my chemtrail thread, claiming it was non-existent conspiracy theory, whilst at the same time unabashedly promoting Andrew Basaigo and his martian dinosaurs - he was trying to tip the balance back toward the 'safe zone', so that a focus on real issues did not become too popular and take on a life of its own.
Some people will choose to stay in la-la land though, because it's easier and more fun, and it saves them from genuine self reflection. For Kerry Cassidy, who may have started out with good intentions, she would be faced with a very dire prospect in considering that most of Camelot's material was bunk, and that the entire narrative she had weaved over the last 5 years was unwittingly part of a government disinformation program to stall and distract truthseekers, and keep them in a wonderland of speculation and fantasy. Anyone else who has held a similarly strong and long held belief in the material would face the same bitter disillusionment, and would probably choose to reject reason and analysis as well. After all, when you're dealing with the core beliefs that someone has built up over a long period, you're talking about a religion, and for people in these areas of interest, it would be absolutely crushing to find out that it was all a lie. The Camelot narrative gives then something to hang onto, and to invest themselves in, where they are told that amazing, wonderful, fascinating things are waiting just around the corner - in many ways like life after death, and so they'd face the same fallout and emotional collapse that a christian would, in finding out there is no 'heaven', per se..
For this reason, I can almost understand their resistance, and their decision to kick Floyd out after he consistently questioned their religion. It's much easier to block and deny than it is to question your own convictions, and unfortunately most 'truthseekers' are not looking for truth at all - they're looking for something which tells them what they want to hear and gives them a guarantee that everything will be OK. This is no doubt what Camelot represents for some people, and so people who go against the grain and encourage them to critique their own beliefs will be expelled as a heretic. It's really no different from any other religion in many ways.
I haven't been kicked out, and I don't know why that is because I have been just as vocal in questioning the Camelot status quo and encouraging people to be critical of the stuff they're fed from Cassidy & Co. Perhaps it's simply a matter of time..
Anyway, I look forward to some productive dialogue on this forum.