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    Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

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     Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System - Page 6 Empty Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:43 pm

    The following is a composite of previous posts, which I wished to focus upon. Is Greed Good? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vscG3k91s58&feature=related Greed may be good - but Responsibility Rocks! Here is a thread on "Healthy Competition?" from AV1: http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13299 This thread is sort of related to my 'Lucifer' thread, and my 'Tibet, Kali, and the Trinity Goddess' thread. If one was in a perfect Garden of Eden or a Harmonious Heaven - with a Kind and Loving God in charge - what more could one want? But what if one wished to exercise their creativity, curiosity, and ambition - in forbidden ways? Something has been bothering me a lot for a long time. It has to do with why we seem to be killing ourselves with industrialization, high-technology surveillance and warfare, designer diseases, massive pollution, bitter science vs religion battles, acute-care drugs and surgery medicine instead of prevention, and running around like chickens with our heads cut off instead of smelling the roses and savoring the creation. There's a lot more to it than what I just said - and I will try to elaborate on this in subsequent posts. I'm really trying to get at why Lucifer rebelled against God (assuming that this actually did occur in some way, shape, or form). I seem to be enamored with Lucifer - to an unhealthy degree. My speculations are causing me a significant amount of mental anguish - but I'm beginning to think that a Lucifer Centered Search for Truth - might yield the clearest view of the way things really are. I have no particular animosity toward Lucifer (assuming that Lucifer actually exists) - and I simply want to try to figure things out - and eventually try to find some peace of mind. I have very little presently - and I feel a bit like Elvis Presley - who wished for a single day of peace. Sometimes I wonder if I might even be Lucifer with amnesia - or a potential Lucifer of the future. Thinking about Lucifer related subjects and issues is scaring the hell out of me. I love it in one way - but I seem to keep sliding down the slippery slope - into I know not what. The horror.

    If you can - get DVD's of 'Contact' and 'Avatar' - and watch them several times - noting especially the philosophical and theological aspects. Also - Google 'The Lucifer Effect - MIT Lecture'. This is just a start. I continue to think that unconventional and heretical theological pursuits will provide many solutions - possibly even disclosure. I continue to contemplate a harmonization of the Teachings of Jesus, the U.S. Constitution, and the Latin Mass. This may be a dead-end, and we may need to move way beyond such a historical approach, but I think there is merit in exploring this possibility - as a mental and spiritual exercise - if nothing else. I'm just rambling now. I'm concerned that society may be on the verge of getting a lot meaner and nastier. If half of what I have speculated about is true - this could cause a lot of societal problems - some of them possibly violent. Waking people up could backfire - if we're not very careful. Are we creating mass-hysteria? Should maybe 10% of the key people of the world be properly woken-up? I think I might be trying to do this in my various postings and threads. I wonder who really reads them? I do not wish to yell 'FIRE!!!' in a crowded theater. I continue to seek a top-down non-revolution - to make the world and solar system a better place. I'm too lazy, stupid, and squeamish to run in the streets with torches and pitchforks. I much prefer armchair blogging. Born to blog. The incredible blog.

    Has technology and industrialization made us better and happier people? Have any wars in the history of the universe really done anyone any real good? Why do we compete with each other? What if we stopped competing with each other? Would we have a greater or lesser chance of survival? Would the breed improve if we ceased to compete? Was it John D. Rockefeller who said 'Competition is a Sin'? Why do we need jets, trains, busses, nukes, cities, cathedrals, mansions, space-travel, etc, etc? Why can't we live in teepees or grass huts? We seem to be killing ourselves in very sophisticated and clever ways. If we destroy ourselves - then what?

    Are love and pity really signs of weakness? Are positive-thinking and self-esteem really delusions? Would a focus on responsibility result in appropriate levels of love, pity, positive-thinking, and self-esteem? A long, long time ago - I proposed a Religion of Responsibility to a well-known theologian - and he liked the idea - but I never followed-through - until now, that is. This general subject may be more important than you can imagine. How did a pristine solar system get so screwed-up? How do we make this solar system pristine again? How do we keep it that way? This gets right at the core of Solar System Governance and my pet Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System aka The United States of the Solar System. Once again, I don't really know if this is the correct approach, but I do know that the subject needs to be discussed extensively - rather than gravitating to the latest fad, sensation, guru, or freak-show.

    "In that vast throng are multitudes of the long-lived race that existed before the Flood; men of lofty stature and giant intellect, who, yielding to the control of fallen angels, devoted all their skill and knowledge to the exaltation of themselves; men whose wonderful works of art led the world to idolize their genius, but whose cruelty and evil inventions, defiling the earth and defacing the image of God, caused Him to blot them from the face of His creation."- 'The Great Controversy' by Ellen White.

    Did these beings, spoken of above, survive the Deluge (in Tibet perhaps?) and proceed to rule over us? Think of Ancient Babylon, Ancient Egypt, Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, Papal Rome, the Nazi Party, and the New World Order - as being ruled over by this race. Does the shoe fit? If so - what can be constructively done? Might they be sort of like the Ori and the Goa'uld in Stargate SG-1? Could they be the equivalent of the Reptilians which Alex Collier describes? Or could they be in league with the Reptilians? Or did they CREATE the Reptilians in a Hybridization Program? Might Reptilians be the Ultimate Human/Reptile Super-Soldiers? Hallowed Be the Ori? How Much Philosophical, Spiritual, and Technological Trouble Might We Really Be In? Talk to Me Lucifer.

    Where should I post this sort of thing? Should I post this sort of thing? There is a fleeting window of opportunity to get this thing right - and I'm just not seeing it happen. Is there a site somewhere on the internet with tens of thousands of regular posters - who are interested in what we discuss? I'm thinking that Kali, the Jesuits, and the Alphabet Agents have me all figured out (knowing more about me than I know about myself) - and on the proper lists (probably including the Red-List) - but that very few others really notice - in a world of seven billion human beings - and goddess knows how many hybrid humanoids. The subjects are driving me crazy - but the lack of interest and response is driving me even crazier. The cumulative effect is not positive - and there really does not seem to be a bright future in whipping a dead horse (or whipping a live Whore of Babylon). I wonder if Kali is into that sort of thing? Sticks and stones may break my bones - but whips and chains excite me! What about that debate-date Kali? You bring the whips - and I'll bring the chains!

    I just keep imagining what it might be like to be a fly on the wall when people who REALLY know what's going on are deep into a several hour long discussion/debate regarding the most sensitive issues in the solar system - which is completely off the record - with no recordings or minutes kept. THAT would be completely different than anything we have been exposed to (I think). This might sound hokey - but I'm trying to look at things through the hypothetical eyes of the goddess who I think MIGHT have been at the center of things in this solar system - going back tens of thousands of years - with complete reincarnational recall - and massive learning. It's easy to get very lost in the process of doing this - and I don't necessarily recommend it. I think theology is central - but that the sacred texts, visions, preachers, scholars, gurus, and channeling cannot be trusted. If I wasn't so afraid of them - I would love to study with renegade Jesuits and Alphabet Agents - who I think - know more than just about anyone else. But I really don't want to venture away from the illusory security of my own home and my spyware laden PC. I once attended a lecture given by a black Jesuit from San Francisco. He was a very eloquent scholar. I just think these people are ultimately working for the wrong boss. Unfortunately, this boss may really be in the driver's seat in this solar system - whether anyone likes it or not. I used to be Christocentric - but I am toying with the possibility that a goddess created virtually all of the sacred texts and religions. This is just more speculation, of course - but thinking this way might provide insights, unobtainable in any other way. Obviously, I don't worship or venerate this hypothetical minor deity. In fact, I am down-right irreverent. I keep asking this hypothetical goddess out on a debate-date - but so far, I have received no response - and I doubt that I ever will - even if they do actually exist.

    Back to the subject at hand - the words in the title of this thread are so central and far-reaching - but It takes a lot of hard mental work to really get some productive thought processes going which involve all of these words. I think that RESPONSIBILITY tempers and qualifies each word - such that they all become constructive in nature. Art Bell has said a lot about 'The Quickening'. IRRESPONSIBILITY seems to be the major culprit in the melt-down and destruction of our civilization. Once again - the movie 'Contact' contains a lot of food for thought regarding the words under consideration.

    I think we may have to be hard-driving Illuminati-types - but without the corruption and creepy ritual rubbish. Are touchy-feely types going to save the world? I've been way, way too easy-going, accomodating, and gullible in my life - and I have paid a terrible price for not being more aggressive. If we sing kumbaya - the rich and powerful are going to keep right on observing the golden-rule (He who has the gold - RULES). How do we achieve a proper balance of exoteric/esoteric, cooperation/competition, etc/etc?

    I'm just casting my pearls into the nether worlds of cyberspace. Who knows, a Pluto-Dude might be using them on a local website called plutocrat.plu! Your experiences are quite interesting. I remain conflicted regarding visions and supernatural experiences. I tend to be wary, and to distrust my own. I just add them to all of the other data. Your fondness for Kali is fascinating. I know someone who studies this sort of thing, and they also have a fondness for Kali. They had no idea that Kali is known as a goddess of destruction - which is often depicted in the artwork devoted to Kali. I am thinking of Kali as being a mixture of good and evil. I think this of all of the gods and goddesses. All of the gods and goddesses might be various expressions of a single minor deity. This is my theory - and I'm sticking to it - for now.

    PAPER 53: THE LUCIFER REBELLION - from The Urantia Book http://www.urantia.org/en/urantia-book-standardized/paper-53-lucifer-rebellion

    53:0.1 Lucifer was a brilliant primary Lanonandek Son of Nebadon. He had experienced service in many systems, had been a high counselor of his group, and was distinguished for wisdom, sagacity, and efficiency. Lucifer was number 37 of his order, and when commissioned by the Melchizedeks, he was designated as one of the one hundred most able and brilliant personalities in more than seven hundred thousand of his kind. From such a magnificent beginning, through evil and error, he embraced sin and now is numbered as one of three System Sovereigns in Nebadon who have succumbed to the urge of self and surrendered to the sophistry of spurious personal liberty—rejection of universe allegiance and disregard of fraternal obligations, blindness to cosmic relationships.
    53:0.2 In the universe of Nebadon, the domain of Christ Michael, there are ten thousand systems of inhabited worlds. In all the history of Lanonandek Sons, in all their work throughout these thousands of systems and at the universe headquarters, only three System Sovereigns have ever been found in contempt of the government of the Creator Son.
    053:1 THE LEADERS OF REBELLION
    53:1.1 Lucifer was not an ascendant being; he was a created Son of the local universe, and of him it was said: " You were perfect in all your ways from the day you were created till unrighteousness was found in you. " Many times had he been in counsel with the Most Highs of Edentia. And Lucifer reigned " upon the holy mountain of God, " the administrative mount of Jerusem, for he was the chief executive of a great system of 607 inhabited worlds.
    53:1.2 Lucifer was a magnificent being, a brilliant personality; he stood next to the Most High Fathers of the constellations in the direct line of universe authority. Notwithstanding Lucifer's transgression, subordinate intelligences refrained from showing him disrespect and disdain prior to Michael's bestowal on Urantia. Even the archangel of Michael, at the time of Moses' resurrection, " did not bring against him an accusing judgment but simply said, `the Judge rebuke you.' " Judgment in such matters belongs to the Ancients of Days, the rulers of the superuniverse.
    53:1.3 Lucifer is now the fallen and deposed Sovereign of Satania. Self-contemplation is most disastrous, even to the exalted personalities of the celestial world. Of Lucifer it was said: " Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom because of your brightness. " Your olden prophet saw his sad estate when he wrote: " How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How are you cast down, you who dared to confuse the worlds! "
    53:1.4 Very little was heard of Lucifer on Urantia owing to the fact that he assigned his first lieutenant, Satan, to advocate his cause on your planet. Satan was a member of the same primary group of Lanonandeks but had never functioned as a System Sovereign; he entered fully into the Lucifer insurrection. The " devil " is none other than Caligastia, the deposed Planetary Prince of Urantia and a Son of the secondary order of Lanonandeks. At the time Michael was on Urantia in the flesh, Lucifer, Satan, and Caligastia were leagued together to effect the miscarriage of his bestowal mission. But they signally failed.
    53:1.5 Abaddon was the chief of the staff of Caligastia. He followed his master into rebellion and has ever since acted as chief executive of the Urantia rebels. Beelzebub was the leader of the disloyal midway creatures who allied themselves with the forces of the traitorous Caligastia.
    53:1.6 The dragon eventually became the symbolic representation of all these evil personages. Upon the triumph of Michael, " Gabriel came down from Salvington and bound the dragon (all the rebel leaders) for an age. " Of the Jerusem seraphic rebels it is written: " And the angels who kept not their first estate but left their own habitation, he has reserved in sure chains of darkness to the judgment of the great day. "

    53:2 THE CAUSES OF REBELLION
    53:2.1 Lucifer and his first assistant, Satan, had reigned on Jerusem for more than five hundred thousand years when in their hearts they began to array themselves against the Universal Father and his then vicegerent Son, Michael.
    53:2.2 There were no peculiar or special conditions in the system of Satania which suggested or favored rebellion. It is our belief that the idea took origin and form in Lucifer's mind, and that he might have instigated such a rebellion no matter where he might have been stationed. Lucifer first announced his plans to Satan, but it required several months to corrupt the mind of his able and brilliant associate. However, when once converted to the rebel theories, he became a bold and earnest advocate of " self-assertion and liberty. "
    53:2.3 No one ever suggested rebellion to Lucifer. The idea of self-assertion in opposition to the will of Michael and to the plans of the Universal Father, as they are represented in Michael, had its origin in his own mind. His relations with the Creator Son had been intimate and always cordial. At no time prior to the exaltation of his own mind did Lucifer openly express dissatisfaction about the universe administration. Notwithstanding his silence, for more than one hundred years of standard time the Union of Days on Salvington had been reflectivating to Uversa that all was not at peace in Lucifer's mind. This information was also communicated to the Creator Son and the Constellation Fathers of Norlatiadek.
    53:2.4 Throughout this period Lucifer became increasingly critical of the entire plan of universe administration but always professed wholehearted loyalty to the Supreme Rulers. His first outspoken disloyalty was manifested on the occasion of a visit of Gabriel to Jerusem just a few days before the open proclamation of the Lucifer Declaration of Liberty. Gabriel was so profoundly impressed with the certainty of the impending outbreak that he went direct to Edentia to confer with the Constellation Fathers regarding the measures to be employed in case of open rebellion.
    53:2.5 It is very difficult to point out the exact cause or causes which finally culminated in the Lucifer rebellion. We are certain of only one thing, and that is: Whatever these first beginnings were, they had their origin in Lucifer's mind. There must have been a pride of self that nourished itself to the point of self-deception, so that Lucifer for a time really persuaded himself that his contemplation of rebellion was actually for the good of the system, if not of the universe. By the time his plans had developed to the point of disillusionment, no doubt he had gone too far for his original and mischief-making pride to permit him to stop. At some point in this experience he became insincere, and evil evolved into deliberate and willful sin. That this happened is proved by the subsequent conduct of this brilliant executive. He was long offered opportunity for repentance, but only some of his subordinates ever accepted the proffered mercy. The Faithful of Days of Edentia, on the request of the Constellation Fathers, in person presented the plan of Michael for the saving of these flagrant rebels, but always was the mercy of the Creator Son rejected and rejected with increasing contempt and disdain.

    53:3 THE LUCIFER MANIFESTO
    53:3.1 Whatever the early origins of trouble in the hearts of Lucifer and Satan, the final outbreak took form as the Lucifer Declaration of Liberty. The cause of the rebels was stated under three heads:
    53:3.2 1. The reality of the Universal Father. Lucifer charged that the Universal Father did not really exist, that physical gravity and space-energy were inherent in the universe, and that the Father was a myth invented by the Paradise Sons to enable them to maintain the rule of the universes in the Father's name. He denied that personality was a gift of the Universal Father. He even intimated that the finaliters were in collusion with the Paradise Sons to foist fraud upon all creation since they never brought back a very clear-cut idea of the Father's actual personality as it is discernible on Paradise. He traded on reverence as ignorance. The charge was sweeping, terrible, and blasphemous. It was this veiled attack upon the finaliters that no doubt influenced the ascendant citizens then on Jerusem to stand firm and remain steadfast in resistance to all the rebel's proposals.
    53:3.3 2. The universe government of the Creator Son—Michael. Lucifer contended that the local systems should be autonomous. He protested against the right of Michael, the Creator Son, to assume sovereignty of Nebadon in the name of a hypothetical Paradise Father and require all personalities to acknowledge allegiance to this unseen Father. He asserted that the whole plan of worship was a clever scheme to aggrandize the Paradise Sons. He was willing to acknowledge Michael as his Creator-father but not as his God and rightful ruler.
    53:3.4 Most bitterly did he attack the right of the Ancients of Days—" foreign potentates "—to interfere in the affairs of the local systems and universes. These rulers he denounced as tyrants and usurpers. He exhorted his followers to believe that none of these rulers could do aught to interfere with the operation of complete home rule if men and angels only had the courage to assert themselves and boldly claim their rights.
    53:3.5 He contended that the executioners of the Ancients of Days could be debarred from functioning in the local systems if the native beings would only assert their independence. He maintained that immortality was inherent in the system personalities, that resurrection was natural and automatic, and that all beings would live eternally except for the arbitrary and unjust acts of the executioners of the Ancients of Days.
    53:3.6 3. The attack upon the universal plan of ascendant mortal training. Lucifer maintained that far too much time and energy were expended upon the scheme of so thoroughly training ascending mortals in the principles of universe administration, principles which he alleged were unethical and unsound. He protested against the agelong program for preparing the mortals of space for some unknown destiny and pointed to the presence of the finaliter corps on Jerusem as proof that these mortals had spent ages of preparation for some destiny of pure fiction. With derision he pointed out that the finaliters had encountered a destiny no more glorious than to be returned to humble spheres similar to those of their origin. He intimated that they had been debauched by overmuch discipline and prolonged training, and that they were in reality traitors to their mortal fellows since they were now co-operating with the scheme of enslaving all creation to the fictions of a mythical eternal destiny for ascending mortals. He advocated that ascenders should enjoy the liberty of individual self-determination. He challenged and condemned the entire plan of mortal ascension as sponsored by the Paradise Sons of God and supported by the Infinite Spirit.
    53:3.7 And it was with such a Declaration of Liberty that Lucifer launched his orgy of darkness and death.

    53:4 OUTBREAK OF THE REBELLION
    53:4.1 The Lucifer manifesto was issued at the annual conclave of Satania on the sea of glass, in the presence of the assembled hosts of Jerusem, on the last day of the year, about two hundred thousand years ago, Urantia time. Satan proclaimed that worship could be accorded the universal forces—physical, intellectual, and spiritual—but that allegiance could be acknowledged only to the actual and present ruler, Lucifer, the " friend of men and angels " and the " God of liberty. "
    53:4.2 Self-assertion was the battle cry of the Lucifer rebellion. One of his chief arguments was that, if self-government was good and right for the Melchizedeks and other groups, it was equally good for all orders of intelligence. He was bold and persistent in the advocacy of the " equality of mind " and " the brotherhood of intelligence. " He maintained that all government should be limited to the local planets and their voluntary confederation into the local systems. All other supervision he disallowed. He promised the Planetary Princes that they should rule the worlds as supreme executives. He denounced the location of legislative activities on the constellation headquarters and the conduct of judicial affairs on the universe capital. He contended that all these functions of government should be concentrated on the system capitals and proceeded to set up his own legislative assembly and organized his own tribunals under the jurisdiction of Satan. And he directed that the princes on the apostate worlds do the same.
    53:4.3 The entire administrative cabinet of Lucifer went over in a body and were sworn in publicly as the officers of the administration of the new head of " the liberated worlds and systems. "
    53:4.4 While there had been two previous rebellions in Nebadon, they were in distant constellations. Lucifer held that these insurrections were unsuccessful because the majority of the intelligences failed to follow their leaders. He contended that " majorities rule, " that " mind is infallible. " The freedom allowed him by the universe rulers apparently sustained many of his nefarious contentions. He defied all his superiors; yet they apparently took no note of his doings. He was given a free hand to prosecute his seductive plan without let or hindrance.
    53:4.5 All the merciful delays of justice Lucifer pointed to as evidence of the inability of the government of the Paradise Sons to stop the rebellion. He would openly defy and arrogantly challenge Michael, Immanuel, and the Ancients of Days and then point to the fact that no action ensued as positive evidence of the impotency of the universe and the superuniverse governments.
    53:4.6 Gabriel was personally present throughout all these disloyal proceedings and only announced that he would, in due time, speak for Michael, and that all beings would be left free and unmolested in their choice; that the " government of the Sons for the Father desired only that loyalty and devotion which was voluntary, wholehearted, and sophistry-proof. "
    53:4.7 Lucifer was permitted fully to establish and thoroughly to organize his rebel government before Gabriel made any effort to contest the right of secession or to counterwork the rebel propaganda. But the Constellation Fathers immediately confined the action of these disloyal personalities to the system of Satania. Nevertheless, this period of delay was a time of great trial and testing to the loyal beings of all Satania. All was chaotic for a few years, and there was great confusion on the mansion worlds.

    53:5 NATURE OF THE CONFLICT
    53:5.1 Upon the outbreak of the Satania rebellion, Michael took counsel of his Paradise brother, Immanuel. Following this momentous conference, Michael announced that he would pursue the same policy which had characterized his dealings with similar upheavals in the past, an attitude of noninterference.
    53:5.2 At the time of this rebellion and the two which preceded it there was no absolute and personal sovereign authority in the universe of Nebadon. Michael ruled by divine right, as vicegerent of the Universal Father, but not yet in his own personal right. He had not completed his bestowal career; he had not yet been vested with " all power in heaven and on earth. "
    53:5.3 From the outbreak of rebellion to the day of his enthronement as sovereign ruler of Nebadon, Michael never interfered with the rebel forces of Lucifer; they were allowed to run a free course for almost two hundred thousand years of Urantia time. Christ Michael now has ample power and authority to deal promptly, even summarily, with such outbreaks of disloyalty, but we doubt that this sovereign authority would lead him to act differently if another such upheaval should occur.
    53:5.4 Since Michael elected to remain aloof from the actual warfare of the Lucifer rebellion, Gabriel called his personal staff together on Edentia and, in counsel with the Most Highs, elected to assume command of the loyal hosts of Satania. Michael remained on Salvington while Gabriel proceeded to Jerusem, and establishing himself on the sphere dedicated to the Father—the same Universal Father whose personality Lucifer and Satan had questioned—in the presence of the forgathered hosts of loyal personalities, he displayed the banner of Michael, the material emblem of the Trinity government of all creation, the three azure blue concentric circles on a white background.
    53:5.5 The Lucifer emblem was a banner of white with one red circle, in the center of which a black solid circle appeared.
    53:5.6 " There was war in heaven; Michael's commander and his angels fought against the dragon (Lucifer, Satan, and the apostate princes); and the dragon and his rebellious angels fought but prevailed not. " This " war in heaven " was not a physical battle as such a conflict might be conceived on Urantia. In the early days of the struggle Lucifer held forth continuously in the planetary amphitheater. Gabriel conducted an unceasing exposure of the rebel sophistries from his headquarters taken up near at hand. The various personalities present on the sphere who were in doubt as to their attitude would journey back and forth between these discussions until they arrived at a final decision.
    53:5.7 But this war in heaven was very terrible and very real. While displaying none of the barbarities so characteristic of physical warfare on the immature worlds, this conflict was far more deadly; material life is in jeopardy in material combat, but the war in heaven was fought in terms of life eternal.

    53:6 A LOYAL SERAPHIC COMMANDER
    53:6.1 There were many noble and inspiring acts of devotion and loyalty which were performed by numerous personalities during the interim between the outbreak of hostilities and the arrival of the new system ruler and his staff. But the most thrilling of all these daring feats of devotion was the courageous conduct of Manotia, the second in command of the Satania headquarters' seraphim.
    53:6.2 At the outbreak of rebellion on Jerusem the head of the seraphic hosts joined the Lucifer cause. This no doubt explains why such a large number of the fourth order, the system administrator seraphim, went astray. The seraphic leader was spiritually blinded by the brilliant personality of Lucifer; his charming ways fascinated the lower orders of celestial beings. They simply could not comprehend that it was possible for such a dazzling personality to go wrong.
    53:6.3 Not long since, in describing the experiences associated with the onset of the Lucifer rebellion, Manotia said: " But my most exhilarating moment was the thrilling adventure connected with the Lucifer rebellion when, as second seraphic commander, I refused to participate in the projected insult to Michael; and the powerful rebels sought my destruction by means of the liaison forces they had arranged. There was a tremendous upheaval on Jerusem, but not a single loyal seraphim was harmed.
    53:6.4 " Upon the default of my immediate superior it devolved upon me to assume command of the angelic hosts of Jerusem as the titular director of the confused seraphic affairs of the system. I was morally upheld by the Melchizedeks, ably assisted by a majority of the Material Sons, deserted by a tremendous group of my own order, but magnificently supported by the ascendant mortals on Jerusem.
    53:6.5 " Having been automatically thrown out of the constellation circuits by the secession of Lucifer, we were dependent on the loyalty of our intelligence corps, who forwarded calls for help to Edentia from the near-by system of Rantulia; and we found that the kingdom of order, the intellect of loyalty, and the spirit of truth were inherently triumphant over rebellion, self-assertion, and so-called personal liberty; we were able to carry on until the arrival of the new System Sovereign, the worthy successor of Lucifer. And immediately thereafter I was assigned to the corps of the Melchizedek receivership of Urantia, assuming jurisdiction over the loyal seraphic orders on the world of the traitorous Caligastia, who had proclaimed his sphere a member of the newly projected system of `liberated worlds and emancipated personalities' proposed in the infamous Declaration of Liberty issued by Lucifer in his call to the `liberty-loving, free-thinking, and forward-looking intelligences of the misruled and maladministered worlds of Satania.' "
    53:6.6 This angel is still in service on Urantia, functioning as associate chief of seraphim.

    53:7 HISTORY OF THE REBELLION
    53:7.1 The Lucifer rebellion was system wide. Thirty-seven seceding Planetary Princes swung their world administrations largely to the side of the archrebel. Only on Panoptia did the Planetary Prince fail to carry his people with him. On this world, under the guidance of the Melchizedeks, the people rallied to the support of Michael. Ellanora, a young woman of that mortal realm, grasped the leadership of the human races, and not a single soul on that strife-torn world enlisted under the Lucifer banner. And ever since have these loyal Panoptians served on the seventh Jerusem transition world as the caretakers and builders on the Father's sphere and its surrounding seven detention worlds. The Panoptians not only act as the literal custodians of these worlds, but they also execute the personal orders of Michael for the embellishment of these spheres for some future and unknown use. They do this work as they tarry en route to Edentia.
    53:7.2 Throughout this period Caligastia was advocating the cause of Lucifer on Urantia. The Melchizedeks ably opposed the apostate Planetary Prince, but the sophistries of unbridled liberty and the delusions of self-assertion had every opportunity for deceiving the primitive peoples of a young and undeveloped world.
    53:7.3 All secession propaganda had to be carried on by personal effort because the broadcast service and all other avenues of interplanetary communication were suspended by the action of the system circuit supervisors. Upon the actual outbreak of the insurrection the entire system of Satania was isolated in both the constellation and the universe circuits. During this time all incoming and outgoing messages were dispatched by seraphic agents and Solitary Messengers. The circuits to the fallen worlds were also cut off, so that Lucifer could not utilize this avenue for the furtherance of his nefarious scheme. And these circuits will not be restored so long as the archrebel lives within the confines of Satania.
    53:7.4 This was a Lanonandek rebellion. The higher orders of local universe sonship did not join the Lucifer secession, although a few of the Life Carriers stationed on the rebel planets were somewhat influenced by the rebellion of the disloyal princes. None of the Trinitized Sons went astray. The Melchizedeks, archangels, and the Brilliant Evening Stars were all loyal to Michael and, with Gabriel, valiantly contended for the Father's will and the Son's rule.
    53:7.5 No beings of Paradise origin were involved in disloyalty. Together with the Solitary Messengers they took up headquarters on the world of the Spirit and remained under the leadership of the Faithful of Days of Edentia. None of the conciliators apostatized, nor did a single one of the Celestial Recorders go astray. But a heavy toll was taken of the Morontia Companions and the Mansion World Teachers.
    53:7.6 Of the supreme order of seraphim, not an angel was lost, but a considerable group of the next order, the superior, were deceived and ensnared. Likewise a few of the third or supervisor order of angels were misled. But the terrible breakdown came in the fourth group, the administrator angels, those seraphim who are normally assigned to the duties of the system capitals. Manotia saved almost two thirds of them, but slightly over one third followed their chief into the rebel ranks. One third of all the Jerusem cherubim attached to the administrator angels were lost with their disloyal seraphim.
    53:7.7 Of the planetary angelic helpers, those assigned to the Material Sons, about one third were deceived, and almost ten per cent of the transition ministers were ensnared. In symbol John saw this when he wrote of the great red dragon, saying: " And his tail drew a third part of the stars of heaven and cast them down in darkness. "
    53:7.8 The greatest loss occurred in the angelic ranks, but most of the lower orders of intelligence were involved in disloyalty. Of the 681,227 Material Sons lost in Satania, ninety-five per cent were casualties of the Lucifer rebellion. Large numbers of midway creatures were lost on those individual planets whose Planetary Princes joined the Lucifer cause.
    53:7.9 In many respects this rebellion was the most widespread and disastrous of all such occurrences in Nebadon. More personalities were involved in this insurrection than in both of the others. And it is to their everlasting dishonor that the emissaries of Lucifer and Satan spared not the infant-training schools on the finaliter cultural planet but rather sought to corrupt these developing minds in mercy salvaged from the evolutionary worlds.
    53:7.10 The ascending mortals were vulnerable, but they withstood the sophistries of rebellion better than the lower spirits. While many on the lower mansion worlds, those who had not attained final fusion with their Adjusters, fell, it is recorded to the glory of the wisdom of the ascension scheme that not a single member of the Satania ascendant citizenship resident on Jerusem participated in the Lucifer rebellion.
    53:7.11 Hour by hour and day by day the broadcast stations of all Nebadon were thronged by the anxious watchers of every imaginable class of celestial intelligence, who intently perused the bulletins of the Satania rebellion and rejoiced as the reports continuously narrated the unswerving loyalty of the ascending mortals who, under their Melchizedek leadership, successfully withstood the combined and protracted efforts of all the subtle evil forces which so swiftly gathered around the banners of secession and sin.
    53:7.12 It was over two years of system time from the beginning of the " war in heaven " until the installation of Lucifer's successor. But at last the new Sovereign came, landing on the sea of glass with his staff. I was among the reserves mobilized on Edentia by Gabriel, and I well remember the first message of Lanaforge to the Constellation Father of Norlatiadek. It read: " Not a single Jerusem citizen was lost. Every ascendant mortal survived the fiery trial and emerged from the crucial test triumphant and altogether victorious. " And on to Salvington, Uversa, and Paradise went this message of assurance that the survival experience of mortal ascension is the greatest security against rebellion and the surest safeguard against sin. This noble Jerusem band of faithful mortals numbered just 187,432,811.
    53:7.13 With the arrival of Lanaforge the archrebels were dethroned and shorn of all governing powers, though they were permitted freely to go about Jerusem, the morontia spheres, and even to the individual inhabited worlds. They continued their deceptive and seductive efforts to confuse and mislead the minds of men and angels. But as concerned their work on the administrative mount of Jerusem, " their place was found no more. "
    53:7.14 While Lucifer was deprived of all administrative authority in Satania, there then existed no local universe power nor tribunal which could detain or destroy this wicked rebel; at that time Michael was not a sovereign ruler. The Ancients of Days sustained the Constellation Fathers in their seizure of the system government, but they have never handed down any subsequent decisions in the many appeals still pending with regard to the present status and future disposition of Lucifer, Satan, and their associates.
    53:7.15 Thus were these archrebels allowed to roam the entire system to seek further penetration for their doctrines of discontent and self-assertion. But in almost two hundred thousand Urantia years they have been unable to deceive another world. No Satania worlds have been lost since the fall of the thirty-seven, not even those younger worlds peopled since that day of rebellion.

    53:8 THE SON OF MAN ON URANTIA
    53:8.1 Lucifer and Satan freely roamed the Satania system until the completion of the bestowal mission of Michael on Urantia. They were last on your world together during the time of their combined assault upon the Son of Man.
    53:8.2 Formerly, when the Planetary Princes, the " Sons of God, " were periodically assembled, " Satan came also, " claiming that he represented all of the isolated worlds of the fallen Planetary Princes. But he has not been accorded such liberty on Jerusem since Michael's terminal bestowal. Subsequent to their effort to corrupt Michael when in the bestowal flesh, all sympathy for Lucifer and Satan has perished throughout all Satania, that is, outside the isolated worlds of sin.
    53:8.3 The bestowal of Michael terminated the Lucifer rebellion in all Satania aside from the planets of the apostate Planetary Princes. And this was the significance of Jesus' personal experience, just before his death in the flesh, when he one day exclaimed to his disciples, " And I beheld Satan fall as lightning from heaven. " He had come with Lucifer to Urantia for the last crucial struggle.
    53:8.4 The Son of Man was confident of success, and he knew that his triumph on your world would forever settle the status of his agelong enemies, not only in Satania but also in the other two systems where sin had entered. There was survival for mortals and security for angels when your Master, in reply to the Lucifer proposals, calmly and with divine assurance replied, " Get you behind me, Satan. " That was, in principle, the real end of the Lucifer rebellion. True, the Uversa tribunals have not yet rendered the executive decision regarding the appeal of Gabriel praying for the destruction of the rebels, but such a decree will, no doubt, be forthcoming in the fullness of time since the first step in the hearing of this case has already been taken.
    53:8.5 Caligastia was recognized by the Son of Man as the technical Prince of Urantia up to near the time of his death. Said Jesus: " Now is the judgment of this world; now shall the prince of this world be cast down. " And then still nearer the completion of his lifework he announced, " The prince of this world is judged. " And it is this same dethroned and discredited Prince who was once termed " God of Urantia. "
    53:8.6 The last act of Michael before leaving Urantia was to offer mercy to Caligastia and Daligastia, but they spurned his tender proffer. Caligastia, your apostate Planetary Prince, is still free on Urantia to prosecute his nefarious designs, but he has absolutely no power to enter the minds of men, neither can he draw near to their souls to tempt or corrupt them unless they really desire to be cursed with his wicked presence.
    53:8.7 Before the bestowal of Michael these rulers of darkness sought to maintain their authority on Urantia, and they persistently withstood the minor and subordinate celestial personalities. But since the day of Pentecost this traitorous Caligastia and his equally contemptible associate, Daligastia, are servile before the divine majesty of the Paradise Thought Adjusters and the protective Spirit of Truth, the spirit of Michael, which has been poured out upon all flesh.
    53:8.8 But even so, no fallen spirit ever did have the power to invade the minds or to harass the souls of the children of God. Neither Satan nor Caligastia could ever touch or approach the faith sons of God; faith is an effective armor against sin and iniquity. It is true: " He who is born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one touches him not. "
    53:8.9 In general, when weak and dissolute mortals are supposed to be under the influence of devils and demons, they are merely being dominated by their own inherent and debased tendencies, being led away by their own natural propensities. The devil has been given a great deal of credit for evil which does not belong to him. Caligastia has been comparatively impotent since the cross of Christ.

    53:9 PRESENT STATUS OF THE REBELLION
    53:9.1 Early in the days of the Lucifer rebellion, salvation was offered all rebels by Michael. To all who would show proof of sincere repentance, he offered, upon his attainment of complete universe sovereignty, forgiveness and reinstatement in some form of universe service. None of the leaders accepted this merciful proffer. But thousands of the angels and the lower orders of celestial beings, including hundreds of the Material Sons and Daughters, accepted the mercy proclaimed by the Panoptians and were given rehabilitation at the time of Jesus' resurrection nineteen hundred years ago. These beings have since been transferred to the Father's world of Jerusem, where they must be held, technically, until the Uversa courts hand down a decision in the matter of Gabriel vs. Lucifer. But no one doubts that, when the annihilation verdict is issued, these repentant and salvaged personalities will be exempted from the decree of extinction. These probationary souls now labor with the Panoptians in the work of caring for the Father's world.
    53:9.2 The archdeceiver has never been on Urantia since the days when he sought to turn back Michael from the purpose to complete the bestowal and to establish himself finally and securely as the unqualified ruler of Nebadon. Upon Michael's becoming the settled head of the universe of Nebadon, Lucifer was taken into custody by the agents of the Uversa Ancients of Days and has since been a prisoner on satellite number one of the Father's group of the transition spheres of Jerusem. And here the rulers of other worlds and systems behold the end of the unfaithful Sovereign of Satania. Paul knew of the status of these rebellious leaders following Michael's bestowal, for he wrote of Caligastia' s chiefs as " spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. "
    53:9.3 Michael, upon assuming the supreme sovereignty of Nebadon, petitioned the Ancients of Days for authority to intern all personalities concerned in the Lucifer rebellion pending the rulings of the superuniverse tribunals in the case of Gabriel vs. Lucifer, placed on the records of the Uversa supreme court almost two hundred thousand years ago, as you reckon time. Concerning the system capital group, the Ancients of Days granted the Michael petition with but a single exception: Satan was allowed to make periodic visits to the apostate princes on the fallen worlds until another Son of God should be accepted by such apostate worlds, or until such time as the courts of Uversa should begin the adjudication of the case of Gabriel vs. Lucifer.
    53:9.4 Satan could come to Urantia because you had no Son of standing in residence—neither Planetary Prince nor Material Son. Machiventa Melchizedek has since been proclaimed vicegerent Planetary Prince of Urantia, and the opening of the case of Gabriel vs. Lucifer has signalized the inauguration of temporary planetary regimes on all the isolated worlds. It is true that Satan did periodically visit Caligastia and others of the fallen princes right up to the time of the presentation of these revelations, when there occurred the first hearing of Gabriel's plea for the annihilation of the archrebels. Satan is now unqualifiedly detained on the Jerusem prison worlds.
    53:9.5 Since Michael's final bestowal no one in all Satania has desired to go to the prison worlds to minister to the interned rebels. And no more beings have been won to the deceiver's cause. For nineteen hundred years the status has been unchanged.
    53:9.6 We do not look for a removal of the present Satania restrictions until the Ancients of Days make final disposition of the archrebels. The system circuits will not be reinstated so long as Lucifer lives. Meantime, he is wholly inactive.
    53:9.7 The rebellion has ended on Jerusem. It ends on the fallen worlds as fast as divine Sons arrive. We believe that all rebels who will ever accept mercy have done so. We await the flashing broadcast that will deprive these traitors of personality existence. We anticipate the verdict of Uversa will be announced by the executionary broadcast which will effect the annihilation of these interned rebels. Then will you look for their places, but they shall not be found. " And they who know you among the worlds will be astonished at you; you have been a terror, but never shall you be any more. " And thus shall all of these unworthy traitors " become as though they had not been. " All await the Uversa decree.
    53:9.8 But for ages the seven prison worlds of spiritual darkness in Satania have constituted a solemn warning to all Nebadon, eloquently and effectively proclaiming the great truth " that the way of the transgressor is hard "; " that within every sin is concealed the seed of its own destruction "; that " the wages of sin is death."

    I have been somewhat skeptical regarding the 'galactic wave', 'crossing the galactic plane', 'earth changes', 'global warming', '2012', etc. I fear that they are distractions, covers, or red-herrings designed to enable a hidden-agenda. There are aspects of the goddess concept which I adore - and there are aspects which I despise. I found the 'eight limbs of yoga' to be intriguing. Doesn't Kali have at least eight limbs? Jesus seems to be a perfect blend of masculine and feminine, humanity and divinity. I guess I'm thinking in terms of NOT scaring people, rushing to judgement, making people angry, creating hatred, etc. - but rather informing people through entertainment, or in a round about way - without pressuring them to make major changes or sacrifices. I have seen religious leaders speak authoritatively about the immanent Second Coming of Christ - and that only those who believe and live in certain ways will be saved and rewarded - while the other unlucky souls will be punished and lost. People come forward in altar calls (many of them in tears) to receive salvation. I used to think this was a good thing - but now I think that it is sort of a mass hysteria or mind control phenomenon. We seem to be emotional and irrational in counter-productive and destructive ways. I've recently considered that it is more blessed to learn how to think, and to teach people to think - than it is to coerce them or convince them regarding anything. At this point - I think I just want to become more responsible and more response-able - and then to encourage others to do the same - and just leave it at that. Then they can wake themselves up - in their own way - and in their own time. Eventually the 100th monkey will wake-up - and a positive paradigm-shift will occur. I am uneasy with the term 'harvest'. Does this term imply that not everyone will survive or make it? I insist that everyone survives and makes it - even if some have to exist in sort of an isolated state for a while. Are the PTB tightening the noose by their own free will - or are they being commanded to do so by those who are not human as we know human to be? Are there executive orders stating that the human race shall not gain their freedom - regardless of whether they are responsible or not? Are we serving a life-sentence, with an eventual final-judgment and a final harvest/execution/sacrifice? Do the orders still stand? What would Dick Cheney say?

    I'm working hard to reject traditional religion - and I'm working hard to reject the new age. I really don't know which way to jump at this point. Definitions and perceptions are very important. I simply do not wish to be exclusive or to exclude anyone as we journey into the future. Has anyone considered the distinction between 'pure science' and 'applied science'? I think 'pure science' is a good thing - but often 'applied science' is a bad thing. But how does one pay the bills with 'pure science'? Are we happier with all of our technology and industrialization? I am trying very hard to get back to my childhood scientific experience. I really enjoy going through all of the forbidden knowledge on the internet - and openly discussing it - even if it puts me on lists - and places several more interdimensional beings on my case. Maybe I'll get to meet them someday - but not today - ok?

    There are approximately 20 words which we really need to spend a lot of time thinking about. The title of this thread includes some of these. I am very apprehensive regarding the low numbers of participants on MOA. This site should have thousands of members. I'm still very suspicious regarding the closure of AV1. I continue to be mystified as to whether the PTB want us to be researching and discussing forbidden information - or not. I really and truly don't know. I don't know if I'm helping or hurting. Perhaps the PTB could care less. Perhaps no one monitors this site. Everything is a big question mark for me. Is it really possible to make money without hurting someone in some way? Doing the right thing seems to get in the way of making money. How does this fit in with pure and applied science? Can we be so heavenly minded that we are of no earthly good? OK - what about pure and applied science? That's what I really wish to talk about.

    Are hatred, rebellion, and deception integral aspects of competition and freedom? Please think long and hard about this question. Was whoever rebelled against God in Heaven really on the right track? Is ruling humanity by secrecy and deception really a legitimate modality of governance? Should democracy rule? Should theocracy rule? Should a theocracy rule a democracy? Should a theocracy and democracy be intertwined? What would be the proper role of God in a United States of the Solar System? Once again, what was the Original Sin? Was the Original Sin also the Unforgivable Sin? Would an idealistic United States of the Solar System need to be theocratically implemented and maintained? Would Responsibility need to be enforced with an Iron Fist? Would Responsible Freedom need to be imposed upon the inhabitants of the Solar System - whether they like it, or not? I advocate maximizing Responsible Freedom in a Context of Legitimate Law and Order. How does a civilization keep all of this in a properly buffered balance??? I continue to think that we are running out of time to get this right. I continue to think that some very powerful eyes and minds are focused upon this solar system and the fate of humanity. All is not well in this neck of the woods.

    Has anyone read 'Jesus - Last of the Pharaohs' by Ralph Ellis? Or 'The Historical Jesus and the Mythical Christ' by Gerald Massey? What about 'The Quest of the Historical Jesus' by Albert Schweitzer? Or 'Jesus in the House of the Pharaohs' by Ahmed Osman? Has anyone considered the work of the 'Jesus Seminar'? What if the biblical-historical Jesus never existed, but what if a very different (and in many ways superior) actual historical Jesus (or equivalent) really did (and does) exist? I'm conceptually considering a demythologized Michael / Horus / Mithras / ????? / Jesus / ????? who might be archangelic / pharonic / artistic / scientific / technological / funny / sexy!!! What if Jesus has always been here? What if Jesus never left? What if Jesus has been reincarnating over and over in this solar system for hundreds of thousands of years? What if Jesus has been sacrificing on behalf of humanity for hundreds of thousands of years? This subject might be extremely important. What did the Vatican know, and when did they know it? There's a cancer growing on the Papacy! And what about the Monarchy? Should the Mass celebrate and commemorate the sacrifice of humanity (for hundreds of thousands of years?) in it's pursuit of responsible-freedom in the context of male and female human physicality, rather than being the repeated unbloody human-sacrfice of Jesus Christ? What if Lucifer is an Agent-Angel of Satan to Buffet Us? I need to stop.

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:56 pm

    What if everyone had the same net-worth? What if education, healthcare, housing, food, and clothing were free? What if tasks in society were based completely on merit? You could be a janitor, banker, astronaut, doctor, pope, president, ceo, representative, or solar system administrator - and everyone would live at the same economic level, even though activities, status, and social circles might vary. I believe in freedom - but not divorced from responsibility. Is fighting for more and more money really responsible? Shouldn't we seek to uplift EVERYONE??? I want to do the right thing. I want to do that which is in EVERYONE'S BEST INTEREST. If only I could practice what I preach. But would all of the above be considered socialism or communism? There would continue to be freedom and competition, but with massive doses of responsibility. Do you see my point?

    I realize that I only know a small portion of what's really going on, but I get the strong impression that this is really crunch-time, and that we really need to think fast, and get something going around here. I used to think that God was going to solve everything, but now I think that this might be a final solution to a failed experiment in responsible freedom and human physicality. I have a horrible sense of dread. I fear that things might've swung too far off the center of the wheel, and that the unbalance indicator failed to function properly. We might be past the point of no return. I sense evil at the highest and lowest levels, but I also sense irresponsibility throughout the world population. I continue to experience profound physical, mental, and spiritual difficulties. I feel like I'm in a graveyard-spiral, and that the proximity-avionics are ordering me to 'PULL UP!!' I'm trying, but now I seem to be in a flat-spin, and I'd probably eject if I had an ejection-seat, but I don't. There really seems to be no safety-net. All of the options seem to be bad presently. My strategy is to just keep doing what I'm doing, and hope that it helps others to do their jobs properly. My mind is not made-up, so please confuse me with the facts. I will continue to be incurably-optimistic and unyieldingly-despairing. I believe that both qualities (if one can call them such) are necessary to properly deal with the predicament we find ourselves in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FauWEy6t1PY

    I am not necessarily at war with the Queen of Heaven and God of This World in a conceptual sense, as blasphemous as that sounds. I think they are probably a mixture of good and evil, strengths and weaknesses. I am simply trying to conceptualize idealistic religious and political constructs on a solar system scale. This will continue to be a mixture of fact and fiction, idealism and pragmatism. This thread will continue to resemble low-budget science fiction. Again, this is all about changing myself, and helping you to think. It is not a Prescription for Paradise. I'm the smart@$$ at the back of the room. Even if I were the leader of the pack, I would still remain seated at the back of the room, and facilitate excellence in others. I would attempt to remain on-top of things, but I would not micromanage. Sometimes, if people know that you know, you don't have to say a damn thing, you know?

    No one else seems to be posting. Maybe they're all hiding in their Deep Underground Military Bases! Or perhaps the Rapture has occurred, and I've been left behind! Anyway, has anyone read or re-read 'Megatrends' or 'Future Shock' lately, to see how things have played-out in relation to the forecasts and projections? Should I be reading Daniel and the Revelation in the Holy Bible, for the real-deal about the future? Should I try to change the future, or is it pretty-much already determined? Have the gods and goddesses made up their minds what they're going to do with us, or to us? Or, has the Creator God of the Universe decided what to do with the gods and goddesses - and with us? Is the ball in our court, or not? I guess I'm seeking a productive partnership of the Human and the Divine, whatever that really means. Where does the BS stop, and the truth begin? Which Heins 57 varieties of religion and philosophy do we embrace? How shall we then live? Should we just eat, drink, and be merry, as we prepare to die? Should I rent a Ferrari, and do my version of 'On the Beach'?
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    THE END IS NEAR! SAVE YOUR NUTS!

    Here is a post dedicated to the Concorde. I'm not sure what that has to do with a United States of the Solar System, except that I think it would be cool if they could somehow revive the Corcorde with various updates, including more efficient engines, improved avionics, and more cost-effective manufacturing methods. This might complement a worldwide magneto-leviton train system in a Brave New United States of the Solar System. Enjoy!

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUFSs7YmJns&feature=related
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL86CxBuDd8&feature=related
    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAGDm_Jnym4&NR=1
    4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5xZSCGlDW4&feature=related
    5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTiDFaVM50
    6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEFb6c010WM&feature=related
    7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hfFyGtbXwM

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    Just another reminder to take my threads as a whole, rather than isolating any particular post, especially one of the more sensational posts. Then, take a look at what everyone else is posting and saying on the internet and everywhere. Take a multidisciplinary approach to all of this. I'm not a former big-shot in a D.U.M.B. or anything, so what the heck do I really know? I'd like you to take what I'm posting seriously, without just buying into it. Just consider it, and move on to bigger and better things. This is the beginning of the road, rather than the end. The best is yet to come. Even if we could just get rid of war in the next couple of years, wouldn't that be 90% of the battle? (get it?!)

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    You know, what really bothers me is how heartless and cruel we have been to each other for thousands of years. In a sense, I could care less about politics, religion, race, socioeconomics, etc, etc, etc, EXCEPT as they pertain to how we treat each other. I keep getting the sinking feeling that no matter how we set things up, the same reincarnational b@$tards are going to keep screwing things up. I'm really serious about the incarceration, restitution, and reeducation thing. I am not a capital punishment kind of guy. However, if a highly compelling case were made to me regarding someone being too dangerous to save - who knows what I might decide? I just don't think that violence is a solution for violence. Violence Breeds Violence. I'd like to stop ALL violence. I know I live in a dream world, but I like my little dream world. Everyone is so nice there...
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    I'm tired of the very poor performance of my computer, and I'm tired of having the computer fan revving like a Ferrari, even when I'm not actively using it. I believe this is because of backdoor access to my computer. Is this really necessary? Can't you guys just monitor me by standing invisible in my house, like I'm sure you do anyway? Or just use the internet like everyone else? Are you trying to make me stop? Believe it or not, I'm trying to stop. I'm trying to mostly just read books and go for walks. I'd still like to be involved in solar system governance at some point in the future, but my disillusionment with life, and the ongoing supernatural attacks made upon me, have made me extremely miserable, and made me mostly ineffectual. Despite all outward appearances, I am not a lazy bum. I doubt many people could endure what I experience on a daily basis, and keep doing what I'm doing. I really doubt it. You Ascended or Descended Whoevers or Whatevers know what I'm talking about. I'm really sick of all of this. Now I'm going to watch another episode of 'Dr. Who'. Then I'll probably watch another episode of 'The Event'. Finally, I'll read another couple of chapters from 'Hitler's Pope'. You don't really have to watch me so closely. I don't meet with people. I don't raise money. I don't start organizations. I don't have a show. And I'm trying to stop doing what I'm doing right now. So I can't really be much of a threat, unless that reincarnational thing might make me a problem. But even then, I really just wish to do that which is in everyone's best interest. I'm not some Vengeful Deity on a Mission of Destruction, or anything like that. But I know an Angry and Jealous Deity Who's Gonna Kick Your @$$!!!
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    Consider the Psychology and Ethics of Politics and Religion, as it relates to Perception and Reality. Consider this to be 'Smoke and Mirrors 101'. What continues to bother and puzzle me about church and state, is who REALLY controls them? Just a bunch of stupid men, or very dark and powerful unseen forces? Just remember: Resisting the United States of the Solar System is Futile.
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    Consider watching 'The War On Democracy'. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3739500579629840148# It's about the political troubles in South America. I'm seriously thinking of myself as a Citizen of the United States of the Solar System, rather than as a Nationalistic American. I respect the politics and religion of the various peoples of the world, and I am trying to identify with everyone, rather than being standoffish or elitist. I'd like to be comfortable anywhere in the solar system. Everyone should be comfortable anywhere in the solar system. My politics and religion are encapsulated in the United States of the Solar System. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

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    Could the United States of the Solar System be one's national origin AND their religion? What are the theological implications and ramifications? Could one use the Teachings of Jesus to support the United States of the Solar System? Could United States of the Solar System sessions be held in a cathedral, without violating the First Amendment? Does the prohibition upon establishing a state church require that religion shall be kept out of governmental discussions and activities? What about Free Speech? What type of citizen might I become if I listened to Gregorian Chant and Sacred Classical Music while studying the 'Federalist Papers' and the 'Anti-Federalist Papers' for one hour, each and every day, for a whole year? Do you see my point? What might one use to bring life and spirituality to the United States of the Solar System? Put down those rocks! Remember! This is a test! This is only a test! I used to occasionally attend services at the Hollywood Presbyterian Church, where Lloyd John Ogilve was the senior pastor. He's now the Chaplain of the Senate. I'd love to talk to him about some of these issues. I met him after a service, and he was quite nice. I also used to watch him on television. He had a terrific organist named Kimo Smith. We used to call him K.S. Bach!
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    Watch and Weep.

    1. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3165309591520786688#

    2. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3165309591520786688#docid=-4496740044013049308

    3. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3165309591520786688#docid=-93617494053797724

    If you haven't seen this one...please watch it. It is very sad...but very good...and quite fair...I thought. The interviews were very revealing.

    What amazed me is how so many competent and concerned people were completely ignored or actively opposed by the Bush Administration. Was the failure of the Iraq Crusade by design? I hate to say this...but so much misery and bloodshed in history seems to have occurred by cruel design. It's almost as if the peace and happiness of the human family MUST be opposed...and that responsibility and freedom MUST be thwarted. It almost seems as if non-human forces have been at work throughout history...to work against humanity. I tend to think that there is a lot more to human history than the sad tale of an infant race...evolving through level upon level of stupidity and madness. I don't think we are the new kids on the galactic block. I think we are the abused kids. Where's the Galactic CPS when you need them? As usual...this is mostly speculative in nature.

    I've been very paranoid and suspicious lately...as you may have noticed...but there's a shape-shifting Jesuit living in my attic...an 800 pound reptilian on my back...and a ufo (disguised as a black helicopter) circling my house. Please...somebody watch the documentary...and comment. It' really very well done. Here is Dick Cheney in 1994 commenting on Iraq: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YENbElb5-xY Is this crusade all about artifacts, stargates, bloodlines, ancient technology, crashed ufo's, underground bases, skeletal remains, ET's, etc? I don't know...but I thought I'd ask. I suppose oil, drugs, and the MIAC might have something to do with it too! Oh...and spreading democracy...whether they want it or not! I don't mean to make light of a very violent and sad episode in world history. I'm just trying to be open and honest...in a friendly, humorous, and light-hearted (some might say 'light-headed') manner. I may be a Pain in Uranus...but I mean no harm. Is the Iraq Crusade a 'Just War'?

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    Here is a composite of some previous posts. They sort of fit together. This whole thing is never really satisfying to me, because I can never find resolution. There are too many loose-ends and too many problems. If I were in the public eye, can you imagine what the press would do to me?! There's a reason why some people are merely armchair internet warriors. I think I could've been a highly polished and smooth 'name', but it's too late for that now, isn't it? Maybe in my next life. Then again, maybe not. We've gotten screwed by the smooth, over and over again, haven't we? Oh just go to your damn Mason meetings, and go to all the dinner parties and luncheons. Hob nob with the rich and famous, and just keep looking the other way. Don't be too definite. People who are too definite get black-listed. "You'll never work in this town again!" Just lie and sleep your way to the top. You know what I'm talking about...

    I like listening to Gregorian Chant, Sacred Classical Music, and Latin Masses, even though I have HUGE theological problems with Roman Catholicism and the Mass (Latin or otherwise). However, if the Mass were interpreted solely by the words attributed to Christ, this would be a HUGE improvement. I don't know why I even bother with any of this. NOBODY will go for what I'm proposing. The Catholic-Haters aren't going to change their minds. The Roman Catholic Faithful are not going to change their minds. And God knows, the Curia and the Pope aren't going to do an about-face! This is a monumental waste of time. But really, I do like the formal mysticism and solemn grandeur of the Latin Mass, especially when properly accompanied by Gregorian Chant and French Romantic choral and organ music. I try to base my theology upon the words attributed to Jesus, rather than upon this or that council or pope. I'm leaning heavily toward nearly 2,000 years of Sedevacante. Has there been even one pope in 2,000 years who strictly followed the Red-Letter Teachings of Jesus? Were they rightly representing the absent Christ, and faithfully carrying out the Great Commission? Were they rather following someone other than Jesus?

    A unifying ritual could consist of nothing more than chanting "2+2=4" over and over again, week after week, complete with robes and incense. Most of us might have reincarnational and genetic memories of mass-type rituals, going back thousands of years, such as in the ancient Hebrew Sanctuary Service. I don't participate in any religious services, and I am opposed to worship and ritual human-sacrifice (bloody or unbloody), but I continue to like the idea of group ceremonial activities which make people face themselves and think about the important things in life, including dealing with sin and mistakes. I'm really not partial to any particular race or religion. I just think we all need to evolve just a little bit more, and a little bit faster...

    Would torturing children qualify as SIN? Sin is irresponsibility in its root and fruit. There are many definitions and manifestations, but sin is real and hideous, disguise it as one might try. What is the absolute standard of morality? What are the consequences of not knowing what the absolute standard of morality is? What are the implications and ramifications of rebelling against the absolute standard of morality? These are serious questions which demand definitive answers. There's a difference between an answer, and a convincing answer. Just because most clergy don't know the difference between a bottomless-pit and an anatomical black-hole doesn't mean that there isn't a pure and refined form of religion and politics. I consider religious-ritual to be a liturgical-discipline, rather than being redemptive in any way, shape, or form.

    If there is no absolute standard, how can we judge anything? The whole moral and legal framework is henceforth built upon shifting-sand, instead of a rock. This is what happened when the popes built their church upon Peter instead of Jesus. Look at the tragic history. Look at the tragic state of affairs today. I'm not sensing a lot of compassion toward victims here. The whole karmic-debt issue seems to be somewhat self-centered. I once spoke with someone who thought that women and children deserved to be eaten by lions in the Colosseum, because of soul/karmic reasons. At least that was my understanding. I had tried to give them an 'out' regarding how I presented the subject to them, but there seemed to be absolutely no sorrow for this 'sin'.

    So, Karma means never having to say you're sorry, and never having to feel pain for the pain inflicted upon others? And who keeps score in the Game of Karma? Do victims of violent crime really attract their attackers to them because of unresolved karmic issues? There would have to be some sort of an Ongoing Investigative Judgment by a Galactic Tribunal, to determine who deserves what, wouldn't there? I don't have a problem with church and state rules, regulations, and discipline which actually make sense. I agree that love is at the center of morality, but I believe that responsibility and response-ability are at the center of a proper definition and application of agape-love.

    What continues to bother and puzzle me about church and state, is who REALLY controls them? Just a bunch of stupid men, or very dark and powerful unseen forces?

    I believe in waging peace instead of war, but I also believe in being disciplined and tough, and at some point provocation must be answered with force, to at least disempower the attacker, and to protect the innocent. 'Turn the other cheek' is one of the 'hard-sayings of Jesus' for me at least. I agree that a 'soft answer turns away wrath', and that we resort to violence all too quickly, but we must be prepared to meet force with an even greater retaliatory force, when necessary. However, I am critical of all extermination events, even at the hands of a loving God. Turn the other cheek once (strike one!), twice (strike two!), three times (strike three!) - and then kick the ever-living excrement out of the b@$stards, and make them an example for whoever thinks they might like to be next. Turn the other key as you turn the other cheek...
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    TURN THE OTHER KEY AS YOU TURN THE OTHER CHEEK!

    My computer was brutally and mercilessly attacked right after I made that last post. Don't you guys and gals have a sense of humor? I'm going to try to fly completely under the radar from now on. I like the idea of imagining living in the secret realms of the solar system, but without giving heed to seducing spirits or doctrines of devils, in preparation for an up and running United States of the Solar System, if you know what I mean. By the way, what did those strange words mean? We're reincarnationally related, aren't we? One more thing. Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin. Namaste and Geronimo!
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    One more time, I don't know what's really going on. I've done a lot of speculating and bluffing, but that's all it is. I have poked and prodded at a hypothetical Queen of Heaven and God of This World, and wondered if there might be a Reptilian component to all of this, BUT I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHO'S WHO OR WHAT'S WHAT IN THE GALACTIC ZOO. READ EVERYTHING I HAVE POSTED WITH A SEA OF SALT.

    Check out Dr. Who 'The Vampires of Venice'. Just get as many DVD's of Dr. Who as you can afford! They're sort of corny, in one way, but they are quite revealing and profound, in another way. I think Dr. Who might be a modern representation of Michael / Horus / Mithras / Jesus / ????? - but what do I know? Does the following image represent the Queen of Heaven and the God of This World? There was a Reptilian / Fish / Alien Queen Theme in this episode. A Drac might look a bit like a fish, don't you think? I have positive and negative feelings regarding the Queen Phenomenon - reptilian, human, hybrid, or otherwise. I am male, yet I think there might be something to emulate in the queen model, but I'm not sure which aspects should be aspired to, and which characteristics should be resisted. This whole politics, religion, race, and sex thing is quite the mixed-bag. Who knows what the real truth of the matter is? I sure don't. A Dr. Who Swedish Connection?! http://thedoctorwhosecrets.tumblr.com/post/6451115129

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    OK, I've made my bed of nails, and now I'm going to try to sleep on it, whether I like it or not. I'm really going to try to privatize my tempest in a teapot, and go through all of my threads, and then some, as though I were working on a doctoral disseration. I'm going to try to stop thrashing around, and become academically articulate. I have a helluva lot of homework to do. Thank-you for your patience with my ranting and raving. I think that quite a bit of it might prove to be accurate, but probably with twists that I never saw coming. I'll probably keep posting, but I'm going to try to limit this to a couple of times a week. We'll see how that goes. Love is central, but I worry about what happens when Naive Love meets Sinister Hate. I guess this is why I am focusing upon Responsibility and Response-Ability as a better modality for doing battle with the Bad Guys and Gals. Love can become watered-down passive-submission, which will not do proper battle with evil. I guess this is why I keep thinking about a Vatican-Based Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System as being a possible replacement for both the Old and New World Orders, which seem to be corrupt Theocracies (Vatican?) and Technocracies (Nazi?), and possibly of other than human origin and nature (Reptilian?), and ultimately hostile toward the human race (because of ancient star wars?). My dissatisfaction with the level of discussion on the internet (or anywhere) is out of control. But maybe I really am delusional. I think I might be. I've been trying to stop posting pretty much since I started, around three years ago. I just seem to be going in circles, and most of this stuff is impossible to prove. Plus, I don't know how dangerous the various topics really are. I think all of this is playing with fire, but I don't know how hot it really is. I think I've already burned my fingers, right up to my armpits, and my head is getting mighty warm. I think I should stop. This tempest in a teapot is going nowhere fast. I start feeling really disoriented and even a bit ill when I expose myself to these controversial topics, or to a lot of Egyptology or Higher Critical Theology. There is the constant battle to determine what is truth, and what is error. It's quite the zoo out there. Also, I have found that conjuring up profound thoughts doesn't necessarily resonate with others. A lot of this stuff is quite solitary and lonely. But I'm about to make all of this even more solitary by reinventing myself into being more of a reader and researcher, than being so much of a whining and ranting poster, trying to get people to talk to me. I'm letting all of that go. I'm not a channeler, experiencer, or scholar. Maybe I'm crazy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw4zmWeyDCI Most of this is new to me. I am genuinely trying to get up to speed with the Secret Government and the Corrupt Elite. How does one properly do this without becoming jaded, cynical, and ultimately corrupted? If I were a part of world government or solar system government, how long would it take me to go downhill? Anyone wanna make some bets? Everyone has their price, right? This governance thing is terrifying to me. It's one thing to rage against the machine, and it's quite another thing to be the machine. If I were the machine, I would probably isolate myself in a 600 square-foot studio apartment and office. I would probably just do business on the internet, and avoid all of the big-shots and fancy dinner-parties. I'd watch sci-fi and eat pizza. But I'd still take my dog for long walks and listen to sacred classical music. OK! Back to Reality! Your contributions were all greatly appreciated. Q.E.D. Another Completely Ignorant Fool Bites the Dust. Namaste and Godspeed.

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:08 pm

    Once again, here are the comments from 'The United States of the Solar System' thread from Avalon 1. The next post will feature a compilation of the comments from this thread, so far.

    Here are the comments (other than mine) so far:

    1. Maybe somewhere in the Solar system they have a better constitution. Why not ask first?

    2. I agree the constitution was a divinely inspired document. However, it is worth considering that what was right for the time then, can be surpassed Now. The divine is not a dead god, or a piece of paper, or a bible, the divine is Living consciousness. There's always More, that's the point of life actually! To become More of the infinite, to grow infinity itSelf! The divine is More than capable of inspiring HUMANITY (not some alien race out there), with a perfect document, a perfect constitution if you will, when the time is right, to build a foundation for the Golden Age government. That being said, further down the road, the divine will inspire a document that surpasses the next one... ad infininitum. There is always More. We must not look to the past for solutions, we should look to the Now.

    3. Suggested revisions (amendments?) to The Constitution of the United Worlds of Sol. ... Owing to the increased longevity of Beings in the United Worlds, Representatives should serve a One-time term of 10-years, and Senators should serve a One-time term of 20-years. By this, we also remove the costly and discordant "re-election campaigns." Those so elected may be subject to re-call by the Electorate for non-performance or malfeasants. All elections shall be by DIRECT VOTE of the Electorate by simple majority with no intervening Electoral college or similar. All Nation-States shall provide volunteer troops to the United Worlds Peace Troops, apportioned by a ratio of the respective population of each nation-state. Such Peace Troops shall be funded from the general funds of the United Worlds, and shall all train together for the purpose of maintaining Peace throughout the United Worlds. Each and every Representative and Senator shall sit in council one month per year with the Local elected assembly of each District / Province / State / Parish from where they were elected. Each and every Representative and Senator shall also sit in council two months per year in the General Congress of their respective Nation-State. These total three-months will be essential to duties with the Congress of the United Worlds. These are necessary in order to remain close to the people and understanding the wishes of the populations. Just for 'starters.'

    4. Take a deep breath and exhale slowly...and once again...and relax.

    5. Best Greetings All Earth Humans and Resident ExtraTerrestrials, United Worlds of Sol [ "If the electorate were electronically connected to the elected...and communicated constantly on all issues...the will of well informed and responsible beings...would more likely be instituted. Elections would be relatively cheap...if limited to internet campaigning and debating. One 10 year term for all offices sounds good to me." ] That is a very good idea = direct input into the legislative process from the Electorate. Secure connections with 512-bit encryption keys for every electorate-enabled computer link is doable. By this every competent Being in the United Worlds has a voice and vote in the Governance. As to elected terms of Reps and Senators, let's peg them at 12-years One-term for the Reps and 15-years One-term for Senators. Each body to be divided into thirds where a 'fresh' group of Reps - one-third - to be elected each four years, and a 'fresh' group of Senators - again one-third - to be elected each five years. A One-Term limit of 12 and 15 years each body would take a lot of the 'politics' and 'back-door deals' out of the picture now currently seen in re-election politics where favors and 'promises' are made to 'special interests.' By virtue of establishment of a United Worlds Peace Troop, the local Nation-States would stand-down all local 'national' armies. The local Nation-States own Police Forces would continue to maintain 'internal' order, and they will also be considered as reserves for the World Peace Troop. Look at the HUGE amount of to be saved by eliminating all the different 'standing armies,' which GDP may then be applied to solving Environmental and Social problems, and also building a better Interstellar SpaceCraft Fleet. Any and all Off-World Colonies shall fall under the protection of the United Worlds Peace Troop. Any Off-World Colony which obtains to a population of 100,000-Beings may become an independent Nation-State within the United Worlds of Sol with all rights, responsibilities, and privileges guaranteed by the Constitution of the United Worlds. Yes this is independent thinking, and I cast my votes 'Yes' for these proposals.

    6. Great Idea, but there is probably already something like that for the whole galaxy.

    7. I agree that the American Constitution has some great ideals and principles. The US seems to be the only country that formally recognizes that a citizen has absolute individual rights. That’s fantastic – even “cosmic”. But one big question is, how does that Constitution get so routinely abused and ignored and subverted in practice? (And indeed, all my own astral travelling and RVing suggests that that kind of subversion is unheard of on any other civilised planet -- with the exception of future versions of our planet, such as the P47s presumably are.) American readers probably have greater trouble viewing the American “matrix” objectively than do people from another country. (Sorry about that.) Obviously to most non-Americans, the American “matrix” has been manipulated so as to create a violent society. I know that Chomsky devoted half of one of his books to arguing and even proving that violence has always been one of the core central features of US society, from the beginning. It’s no coincidence that the crime rate in America is at least 12 times greater than in Western Europe. And that figure goes up to 16 or more times greater when it comes to crimes like murder. So another question is, how does one help people who live within such a violent “matrix” to detach from it, both individually and even as a society?

    8. No offense, but I don't think that humanity needs a piece of paper or papers to co-exist in a new paradigm.We've seen what weight the Constitution holds in modern times (read: zero) and in order for a new document (or any document) to have meaning, it must be held to the highest regard by all and it must be respected or else, it is just a piece of paper.

    9. You are right. Why wasting time on endless discussions about that? Do you HJ see any reason for that? i don't...or maybe there is....

    10. There's nothing wrong with it. I'm just trying to stay "out of the box" in regards to my thinking.

    11. Maybe someone does rule and own this solar system- should be part of disclosure.....

    12. Are you assuming there is no galactic organization already in place? We may soon find out otherwise, and they may have something to say about what rights and authority we have outside of our home planet. If there is truth the stories about being "warned off the moon", they may have already done so. I think this exercise may be premature. First, we need to know where the transition leaves us as individuals. For example, how many laws and regulations do you need for people who are always working for the common good? What abilities will we have that we don't have now? What access to knowledge will we have? Second, we need to understand our place in the galactic system. We will be the new kids, and it's unlikely that we will be "laying down the law" for anyone but us. In fact, there may be certain standards for individual and group rights that we must elevate ourselves to. Third, we are likely to see massive technological changes based on suppressed technology that will completely change what we as humans are capable of. This must be put to wise use because we have a lot of damage to undo before we can settle into a new way of doing things.

    13. Thinking beyond the earth is an excellent thing to do. Thinking in terms of existing earth paradigms is not going far enough. What can be accomplished with a civilization of loving beings who are constantly aware of their oneness with all others and their connection to god? What place does the concept of ownership have in such a civilization? There are numerous people who claim some knowledge of galactic organizations (Greer, Nidle, others), including some people on this forum (TraineeHuman, me). It would seem these organizations have been around quite a long time - millions of years at least. I think that makes us the new kids. Of course, that's just in the physical realm. We're all ancient immortal beings. Are we abused? Yes, but mostly by each other. Think of the recent history of the earth as a story designed to teach a lesson. What is it we are being taught? I think freedom is a big part of where we are headed. In many stories about the visitors, it seems they always volunteer for whatever task it is they are working on. The concept of being ordered to do something just doesn't seem to be there.

    14. Sounds honorable ODM but I have a feeling you end up right back where we are now in the end, Games will be played and power will be centralized just like today . But I have found something give it a read and let me know what you think. A global action is underway that is moving your world toward the creation of a fully transparent banking system and a monetary system based on precious metals, such as gold and silver. This action is being implemented throughout most of the globe. To manifest it fully the American system needs to default to gold, and the Federal Reserve and the illegal Internal Revenue Service (IRS) must now disappear. The means for this to happen is in place, and quite shortly, all of this is to be announced by a new caretaker government in Washington. As these announcements are made, a vast reordering of the American Republic is to take place. The USA corporate entity that has long controlled this government is to be dissolved and the myriad statutory laws that were put in place since the start of the Roosevelt administration in 1933 are to be nullified. In its place is to emerge a smaller government with hugely decreased international commitments. America will be dedicated to peace and will no longer send her military to the four corners of the globe. All major foreign bases are to be abandoned and all remaining foreign bases reduced to their pre-WW II size (13 small foreign bases). America was never intended to be a European or Asian power. Japan and Germany need their naval, air force, and military bases back, and the US needs to withdraw from Korea and, in so doing, help reunify North and South. China needs to give up Tibet, and India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan to redraw their mutual borders. Africa likewise needs to address the same issues. The colonial map of pre-WW II is a sorry excuse for drawing up the borders of the nations of your world. A great deal of thought has been given to these matters by our Earth allies and by us as all of this constitutes a large part of forging a new reality for your home world. Further, it is necessary to restructure the United Nations and remove it from the clutches of the dark cabal and its many silent cronies. Let us return to the caretaker regime of the restored American Republic. The first thing you notice is that the vast social welfare net created by the Roosevelt administration is gone. It is replaced by a series of private organizations created by the abundance programs and by a structure framed by our Earth allies. The purpose of governance is to guide and direct; interference and regulation happen only in special cases where the "general welfare" is at stake. A return to "common law" blended with constitutional law is to become the new social contract governing the mutual responsibilities between government, business, and citizenry, and will be overseen by a new Justice Department. The premise of these laws is to "provide for the general welfare" as stipulated in the preamble to the US Constitution. America is once more to become a nation founded on freedom, prosperity, sovereignty, and the "pursuit of happiness." To accomplish this, a vast nationwide network of abundance disbursement programs is to become a primary force in the life of each American. The purpose of this is to enable each of you to become "your brother's and sister's keeper." You are responsible for each other and to each other. You are to become a community of Love and Light, and this is to extend throughout the globe. Your new reality is about helping each other, being caring, sovereign citizens, and making good use of those resources provided for us by Mother Earth and by your own creativity. To this end, a lot of technology, at present either suppressed or hidden away, needs to be revealed and fully supported by the world community. These new technologies can solve the current energy crisis, clean up your world's vast store of polluted water, soil, and air, and provide you with faster, more efficient forms of ground, sea, and air transportation. This is only the start of what you can accomplish in a very short period of time. A whole network of interrelated business enterprises can be built, which can also be the basis for establishing a workable system of "fluid group management." What you are getting ready to do is shed the society that you have lived in up until this moment. Yours is a society based on separation, fragmentation, and alienation. Only a few deeds of exceptional kindness on the part of some extraordinary individuals and service-oriented families have kept your societies from a continuous state of open rebellion. This has been the case down through the ages. Despite this, these groups were usually unable to prevent the sudden outbreak of such uprisings, and so your history is one long catalogue of bloody revolutions, mindless wars, and mass outpourings of pent-up anger. The aim now is to transform all this. Prosperity and mindful, loving cooperation can replace the above. New institutions are therefore needed which maintain and promote global cooperation. This is something our Earth allies and we have thought about long and hard.

    15. I'm very impressed with this thread. Just a tongue in cheek comment... this is the old world of disorder. A new world order would be fine as long as there was complete disclosure (no more compartmentalized secret governments) and all were treated with love and respect.

    16. Why own anything, let's extend the native american idea of no man owns the earth to the cosmos.

    17. I do wish for egalitarianism or at least a good shaving off of the extremes on both ends. And in the end no one really owns anything in the "you can't take it with you when you die" sense. I'll be first to admit i may be stupid and lazy but i am also human. It's impossible for everybody to be equally good at capitalism, so i see it as a system imposed on the majority by the minority that are good at it.

    18. I and a lot of people could live with that!! Cheers to ya!!

    19. Really we are only custodians. Tho some think not.

    20. Ya finally consolidated it! I'll buy that!

    21. If corporate thinking doesn't change at the same time then yes we will. Everything is Free! Nobody gets Paid! Follow your bliss volunteerism!
    No more being marketable (like a slave)! No more unsustainable consumerism! (this is my rallying cry, perhaps i'll add it to my signature)

    22. There we go.

    23. Coincidentally, I was on Youtube yesterday watching some black and white film of Jung and Freud. Even back in those early days they knew that the negative compulsive matter was subconscious or unconscious and no amount of intellectual knowledge would suffice to clear out the part of the subconscious that is problematic regarding our fears and compulsions. It cannot be talked about, talk therapy is weak if not totally ineffective. It can be looked at however and that is quite aggressive and effective and does help me remove fears and compulsive ways of thinking-doing-being. It is amazing how I have healed myself by stopping my mind and simply looking. Looking brings Knowing and once I Know the whole knotty mess straightens out. It is reported that is how Gautama Buddha reached Nirvana -- he did some deep looking.

    24. My problem with competition is some people are better at it (especially than me!) So until capitalism throws enough money my way (my needs are quite simple, i only need to approach 30k/yr to come out ahead and save money each month living by myself in a cheap 1 br apt) i'm gonna want some kind of Robin Hood revenge especially from those making millions to trillions, which is totally ridiculous. All i really want to do is write songs but you can only make money that way if it sells, why can't the fact i wrote a song be good enough whether it sells or not? Or can i make money as a youtube busker? Anyway....

    25. I've always had a problem with competition[CODE] Competition in this world mostly brings envious spirits which later give birth to greed and many evil thereafter. On the other hand divine competition is entirely different since every soul is encouraged to give its best talent ,to show its light before creator and hence fore be a part of magnificence.

    26. Ortho you'd be jealous of a couple friends of mine whose business is organ tuning/repair, they work on organs and to test their work they have to play them, and they avoid the theopolitics (is that a word, well it is now) however the downside (besides dead birds and mice found in the pipe chambers) is the travel involved since they cover the 5 state area of MN, WI, IA and the 2 Dakotas at minimum.

    27. My dog (cockerpoo) really understands competition: he and his cousin (cavalier king charles) happily compete all day long with each other, and then at night they curl up together :-)

    28. What I am getting is that the original split was within ourself and somehow an imbalance came about between "to be" and "to not be" and then a fixedness and inability to blend or merge, and all dichotomies can trace their genology back to this Prime Polarity. Don't take me literally on this as I'm just stating what I'm seeing at this point in my self-realization work, but 3 sessions from now I may find an even more basic Prime Polarity, or a twin Prime Polarity. The furtherest back in "time" for me was several quadrillion years, no kidding, and when I went back before time I had to measure it in terms of where it was in relation to when time began for me and when I first separated from the Static. For example, an incident was dated at 45% before time. If you can think abstractly for a moment almost all conflicts are a working out of the "to be" and "to not be" dichotomy. There are processes that help one resolve this irresolution other than "spanking the dog".

    29. It is the same reported path the Buddha took to achieve Nirvana, and then he taught many of his family and friends and as far as I know -- no one got hurt :-)

    30. Thought it was mental mast______tion that does that, lol

    31. Ok Ortho, you asked for it. here's my two cents worth and totally my own words: I think ultimately after we go through the graduation ceremony of ascension we will be able to take our well deserved place through out the solar system and the galaxy and beyond. Our own inner personal self is what we will have learned to govern with responsibility and through that personal accountability and responsibility we will be able to coexist without fear of our personal rights being violated as others will be able to rely on that accountability not impinging on their rights. It is through this right of passage that peace comes. We are not the only ones undergoing this transition at this time. Others from Orion have also incarnated on earth at this time so that we may get through this incredible moment in galactic history with the ability to coexist after having worked out our differences. After ascension peace will sweep the galaxy. Those that can’t accept this new found peace and who choose war over peace will get their wish and will be able to blow each other up in their own separate dimension to their hearts content. This is God’s will and it is set in motion. We don’t need a complicated constitution to govern us collectively as we will all govern ourselves through individual responsibility. It is through complication that we have been manipulated for so long. The universal law is simplicity and totally workable. This is why the quarantine is necessary in order for the lessons to be learnt and ascension a necessary process.

    32. It is not the intention to be contradictory. Ideal is an acceptable goal to seek. I must ask how well has your liberty being protected by the Constitution as it stands? As long as we give away our power to others to interpret and enforce a constitution we are leaving ourselves open to manipulation from others. If we move towards individual responsibility maintained by the laws of the universe in which we dwell. surely the only true liberation comes from individual responsibility maintained from within rather than without? It is only through our inability to be governed from within that we have been limited from venturing too far out of the "school yard" of Earth so it may seem from all the information presented on this and other forums of this nature.

    33. I have questions: How many planets are there, exactly, in this solar system? Are there more orbiting on the other side of the sun, this star, at about the same distance from it, so we continuously don't know about their existence? Why should earthlings determine what the 'Constitution' of this star system ought to be? Or, is it better to be preemptive, take initiative! to have something in hand already? Is there already a greater 'Constitution' that encompasses other solar systems? Or does everyETone just make sh^t up, to the best of their collective ability and judgment?

    34. Your thinking too small Ortho, Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom applied to the Multiverse.

    35. How about something like this: We the united peoples of earth, the sovereign instantiations of the creator source in this physical time space universe, do hereby claim our sovereignty. We have been misled, misguided, misrepresented, enslaved, genetically manipulated, tricked, given physical embodiments that are easily addicted to all sorts of physical stimulation, distracted, and generally treated like the laughing stock of the universe and associated multiverses. We do hereby state that we no longer can accept this. We let go of all negative energies and emotions such as greed, lust and hate. We refuse to fight your wars for you. We are the sons and daughters of the creator. We claim our rightful place in the universe. For we the meek shall not only inherit the earth but the entire universe. We state plainly that without all these manipulations by outsiders we will be free to act as responsible sons and daughters and take up our rightful place under our Father Creator Source and next too our Christed Brother Jesus. Those peoples of the universe that wish to stand beside us in our cause as universal brothers and sisters shall be welcomed with open arms. For we take up this oath to honour our universal responsibility as sovereign creator sons and daughters. This is our pledge and so it be done.

    36. I see that as a good one Initiate. The key for me in taking back our power is realizing that it wasn't taken away from us by bad guys, we had to give it up. In other words, although we've been deceived, we didn't have to fall for the deceptions. So now's time to take personal responsibility as Co-Creators with the infinite and realize the mess we're in was created by our own unconsciousness and giving away our power and decision making to those outside of us. Anyway, nice work. Ortho ~ I agree with the theme here, here is the big question: We have a constitution in the USA right now, but it does not stop the powers that be from doing their thing right? So what exactly is going to stop "lucifer" bad guys etc. from suddenly turning hte other cheek and respecting the divine in all people? What do you think? Sure I hear yah, you'd like em to retire and have a beer with you. Now free will is the universal law. The whole point of creation is we are supposed to respect and celebrate teh divine in each other. The whole point of the fallen beings is they are seeking to destroy the divine in all life rather than celebrate it or raise it up.
    So my question to you is, what needs to change then in order for your suggestion for a universal constitution to be effective? Especially given that we already have a constitution in the US and it is obviously not respected by the PTB. What are your thoughts?

    37. Hi ortho - I haven't read your last 2 posts entirely yet, but I wanted to say I liked Initiate's #100 post [Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom applied to the Multiverse]. The multiverse thing completely overrides the 'throughout the universe, in perpetuity' that's on your Lawyerese Goes Galactic thread. We've got to up the ante on those idiots, and that term would do it IMO. Even 'in perpetuity' is a misnomer (in a time is everywhere multiverse), because it's linear in concept, which could be kind of wrong. I'll have to dig up some theorizing about that.*
    *Another post about that! Operator ... Former Dutch astronaut explains how ‘time’ is created by human beings (video)http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18026 Also, 14 Chakras had some thoughts that I've also had. Say, just because a document exists, it doesn't mean it has effect. Now I'm wondering, who cares. We make it up (well, you make it up or copy it, analyze it whatever). Luckily, it's easy to 'enforce' - actually no enforcement really needed because it's Namaste-ish.

    38. So let's just revoke it. I mean, I have not seen the agreement, so let's just speculate that, yes, it's a problem. And BOOM it's gone. I wonder then can we boss them around with our consciousness, a kind of coup d'etat with our calm minds. Then, if there's psychic energy to spare after calm, it's like we say, CLEAN UP THE OCEANS!! NOW!! MAKE AMENDS HIVE MIND BUDDIES!! YOU OWE US FOR RIPPING OFF HUMAN TISSUE!! (And don't even get us STARTED on breached agreements here and wherever else!!) Etc.

    39. Where's Aldebaran? It seems to be where the Nazis go. I have no recollection of this kind of thing. I sprung from the earth. Yes, waging war all the time - so many delusions. Doesn't matter who, what, when, where, why. Let's just go Bible there - yes, homeworld. Until more DNA information is available. Is that why we're being picked off? Oh wait, that's the US military. The genetic stardust is in everyone. It's a bit crude, too (well, not for me), but earth's fecundity and fertility and life is a result of death (like compost) and **** - that's soil for ya. Our mothers, fathers or clone dads or whatever ate what's around to grow. It's consolidated in our bodies. Maybe you're from somewhere else than me, but we are earthlings.

    40. So I guess my thoughts is this: If we have a good document in place now that is supposed to be the law of the land, and we understand Namaste here, then how come things are sucking in the government? How will this change if we sign another document? What is the point of a document if no one follows it no matter how good a document it is? We already have it in place Now, and what's happening? It's not working. So for me, the most important concept is: We can't solve a problem from the same level of consciousness that created the problem in the first place. A better document will not bring Namaste Responsible Freedom to the masses or the elite. Nothing in fact, will change from a document or an agreement or a handshake, because the nature of the PTB / PTW is deception. The way of the collective consciousness is currently unconsciousness, ignorance, follow the leader sheep mentality. Much less than what has been required to hold the government accountable to the people. I will suggest that it is indeed a valiant effort and vision for Namaste Constitutional Freedom, but that it will ONLY come when the collective consciousness, the collective agreement shifts into a higher level of consciousness where it becomes much more clear that each individual does indeed have a Divine spark within them. How else will the concept of Namaste become the way the world is run if people do not actually see this? So for me, the goal should be to shift consciousness higher to where Namaste is Self evident as the only Way because it is the Way of our own enlightened Self interest. Since we share a collective consciousness, the way to get there, is by raising our own consciousness, seeing through our own illusions and recognizing the Divine in our own heart, as well as all those we meet. When enough people really do this, the collective consciousness will shift, and then people will actually follow a great document for Namaste responsible freedom rather than abusing it. So first comes consciousness shift, then comes Namaste Constitutional Freedom as the natural output of that.

    41. The more freedom of expression and self-determinism and response-ability and self-awareness these ET societies have the less verbiage and checks and balances they employ. Their citizens would have a higher courage and personal integrity level and so the criminal minded and gangsters and moochers would prefer to go somewhere else for easier pickin's.

    42. If we could raise our awareness to ourselves as infinite beings would there really be a real estate issue? Wouldn't it then be more a question of how to close up shop in a decent and orderly fashion? Sweep all the debris back to the Source?

    43. That is exactly how I escaped some of the last between lives manipulation. When they turned a "Be Calm" machine on me an image of Buddha appeared and he had a red ruby in his forehead and the "Be Calm" machine got turned onto the Reptilian and I dived into the ruby which was a vortex that landed me in a specific pre-destined location. I landed in the lecture hall where Ron Hubbard was delivering the classic lectures in Scientology in 1952. I further proofed myself up this lifetime with my clearing work (ongoing). Because if one thing does not get to you, another thing will and they will keep plying their tools on one until one can no longer keep his focus. There is a growing body of clearing practitioners and spiritual remote clearing people and the prices are reasonable for most. CAVEAT EMPTOR and please do some clearing work to proof up against any possible mind control, etc.

    44. thanks for the links, some good ones there but there is no way im listening to "we are the world" also any chance of a one sentence summary of the above?

    45. I agree. http://www.lookyourheartinthemirror.com/me1.html That's a tip of the iceberg. Good work on this stuff.

    46. The next chance I get we are going to take a look at morphic field rulerships, esp. the major religious groups. Let you know what we see. Others may go and look and see it from a different facet. It seems that whatever one focuses on relates to that person's own "Prior Karmic Cause". Perhaps after I clear that out I will see a more complete picture.

    47. Even though your role is different from my role in rehabilitating this planet, it is important for me to be able to take different views as to form strategy for my own work. My role looks like it will involve me in large scale spiritual clearing assistance and aesthetics/arts. Today the role is more that of a warrior against fixed polarities, and the "warrior" part of the job will end when the more black-white polarities are resolved leaving mostly "complementary polarities" to deal with. Oh, what a wonderful lifetime that will be!

    48. I have a question or a proposal to you: Based upon the maxim that "without a vision the people perish". would it be okay with you if the people are given a huge vision of making planet earth a model for the -- gulp -- Universe? A model of equanimity, decency, order, egalitarianism, freedom of expression. I heard on the grapevine that some of the most interesting beings have been being dumped on this planet and the recent inflow are some of the most brave and idealistic volunteers. This could become a real hotspot of the -- gulp -- Universe. Okay, at least the two galaxies. Also, since it seems to be an undenied factoid that this is a Universe of Dualities, which seem to have caused us spiritual decay, could we not also include the vision of Planet Earth being a model of "collapsed dualities"? I know this can be achieved and I have practically forever to help bring this about... Now, I know that particular phrasing won't sell in the marketplace and there might be numerous groups arguing about the best way to uncollapse beings from their precious polarities, but I would rather see a bunch of philosopher kings bashing their heads against each other than the current stuff that is going on. You know -- it would be an improvement :-) I'm willing to take this step by step....LOL.

    49. You are speaking of separation of church and government, right? So it will be up to the teachers, gurus, priests, etc. to promote the vision. However, I never for once thought of my proposal as other than another technological issue to be resolved in this particular universe. Okay, took a step back tohave another look...will respond later.

    50. Another quick interjection before I go and do my housework ... the more self-governance individuals exhibit the less temptation and provocation to introduce arbitrary rules. The more rules the more rules will be broken, and every broken rule, tabulated and measured, becomes a diagnostic tool so that the "fix" does not become more and more precise rules. What will the "fix" be?

    51. If a religion is running a government, it is called a theocracy. Some muslim countries are run by their religious leaders. But many other countries have governments that are not run by a religion (hopefully USA is still one), or they may have dictators, or they may be run by a monarchy… So I suggest you check your facts. Here is a place to start: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/go...overnment-type

    52. Hang in there Ortho. It only takes one consciousness to build a pathway to a new universe. If it is the Will of All that is that it comes about then so be it. I know one thing, TBTB are on borrowed time. So, keep thinking about the Universe after their gone. I'll ride in your star ship any day and under Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. It's bigger than the United States and the Solar System. It really is Universal.

    53. It is hard for me to read scripture except for short snippets, having had it dogmatically enforced for a little too long, but I appreciate the personal truths I find in scriptures.

    54. "Though shalt have no gods except yourself" Oh, that's so deliciously funny!

    55. Well my friend, we could co-miserate over a cup of coffee someday: In this "body culture" planet if no one is listening to you then you are a little too "heady". Haven't you noticed, it's all about the meat. I long for a society of cleared beings (Bodhis) but dang'ed if I'm going to get one going on this planet with my current intellectual approach. If I said "clearing removes wrinkles forever" (it can) .... I can't do that. At the end of that coffe klatch we would be best off with you deciding you are going to create a good rule of government for your own benefit, and me deciding I am going to clear myself right out of this universe and only send back a hologram of myself in the faint hope...yeh, I'll just play with my holograms :-)

    56. Do what gives you enough pleasure to keep wanting to do it. Practice gentle undulation. If you, like me, enjoy posing problems of civilization, I could think of worse avocations. When it comes to governance, I'm ready for a paradigm shift, something totally different, totally balanced, a society that needs less governance. A governance that does not create arbitrary laws because a few people caused a problem. If we solve the problem of why we need rules and laws in the first place, then perhaps we could all do very well on good communication and simple agreements.

    57. I like that you are posing some big problems/games to yourself. A while back I posed the problem of civilization to myself. Why I did that? At that time I did not consider that I could simply leave the game intact and -- get this -- not play any game at all if I so wished. I'm considering the last option right now.

    58. So it has been written. I'm starting to not identify myself with meaning or with life as meaning. Sometimes I can be drawn into the River of Life with imaginations of what the world would be like if Buddha had succeeded in populating the planet with bodhis. I see shopping malls filled with enlightened/awakened bodhis :-)

    59. Yes no one with a heart cannot help but want to reach out to people. Not only as bodies, but also as spiritual beings who know they are more than just bodies. I guess the first thing to do is to sit down and get very realistic about what one is dealing with here on this planet. I'm supposed to write a book about how a civilization is built from the ground up, but if I start writing it might start writing me and I'm not ready for that yet. Thanks for the thumbs up on the bodhi scenario. The buddha I see was very much into eating well and he liked his luxuries, was not an ascetic by any means, but very very vigorous in reaching out to people and working with them to help them do their practices to reach their own bodhi state. I used to frequent the Bodhi Tree store in LA. Met some interesting books and people there. I think my job is to help birth people/bodhis who can in turn work with you to organize societies and perhaps cities. I don't mean going out and having 12 children (although I thought of it). If you said, "Hey, everybody, let's get together and talk about how we can turn this planet into a tourist center for the ETs." You know, put a very fun and body/nature oriented slant on it. A government run like a business. That is how my book would slant it. I'm only putting emphasis on the spiritual technologies because governments and civilizations and societies failed because beings could not govern themselves, much less each other. An awakened society enjoys more freedoms and needs less government. Administration and organization would be the main function of government. Can you imagine how exciting this planet would be for ETs to visit!!!

    60. Let me ask you, how would you propose units of exchange -- an economic system or standard?

    61. Remembrance of human symbiosis with celestial planets has to be priority in the consciousness and super consciousness. From standpoint on this planet we are looking at our assssss! I would think that planets who have made it somehow have preserved this visceral knowledge. This is the million dollar question. Maybe the logos of spirit is stronger in frequency and maybe we are just an example of lack there of.... I think an entire population with the knowledge of the cosmos and intention would create nature to give what it needs because in a sense you could travel with your mind. The understanding of physicality and spirit would allow one to explore the universe. In this energy matrix corruption cannot exist it might spontaneously pop up but it is soon seen and redirected/transmuted. So in this sense tech, industry, hierarchy would not exist. Now to explain exopolitical vision in this plane presents quite a problem. Hence the quandary of our language and mind being corrupted to suit malevolence. Its not that we cant do good its realizing the conditioned programming done for thousands of years? Its like the idea of philanthropic concepts. For our time without future vision the GOvt helping us to regulate society and protect us can seem good. But in a 100 years all the philanthropic ideas will be used to control us. Does our species have a reboot system, Maybe... Are a few of us trying to use intention to create intervention in the Freewill plane, maybe...... Or are some of us just being born to realize the everlasting black hole of evolution to finally be released from reincarnation here, maybe....

    62. Whew reincarnating on this type of planet is a workout I dont want anytime soon. I think a trip down the Akashic records to reorganize my soul for some time then a traveling celestial healer and running with the comets for a bit will do me some good too. Then after some time I will come back to this plane. I think mind will move matter so in that sense the currency will be knowledge and manifestation. Working within a social circle attaining what one needs from its social dynamic. Same as it is said, that a huge chunk of "karmic" energy is within your family. So a community dynamic based on attaining cosmic knowledge exchanged by energy from consciousness. Can you dig it??? My reference with biased physicality in societal commerce is slim. It could be that technology is a barometer of nature and human symbiosis. In other words to much tech exhibits lack of awareness?? Or it just could be a plane that exist in evolution. Hence UFO's and that level of tech and cosmic knowledge. A possible example of why the lack of contact. Maybe there exists here this idea of just benevolent frequency of mind that teaches a tech based society/galaxy. So in other words everyone and I mean everyone is waiting for the Ancients to make a move. Just a thought. But back to the point, A basic level of understanding the importance of uniting/transmuting energy into liberty must be viscerally felt, allowing for corruption to barely sustain itself. Telepathy??????

    63. I think a middle ground on our contexts could be the question. How do we eliminate corruption?? Now Ive seen people due to various reasons reach a vibration that creates a type of truth serum and their lies are given in a type of confession. Like detoxing venom in a way. An easier example could be just basic transmutation. Water to vapor? How this relates to consciousness mechanically I do not know. I know our Slave Masters will be able to use tech to determine if we are in Right THink for sure in the future. Maybe another analogy would be like the Movie Avatar. The people have a cultural attachment to a deity that guides them and they prosper together in that endeavor. This example is happening now with the slave masters creating their GOD that we will follow into space war. I just cant get my mind wrapped around a post industrial space traveling high tech human species working together without corruption being our master. I for some reason think that there will be a jump in evolution, telepathy, mind over matter, creating space and time. We will fall into the Astral plane so to speak, realizing that matter is only 50% of our equation of existence... I get you on psychic bullying but i have a good feeling that the new awareness will be fresh like the new teachings of an ascended master, but over time it could be corrupted. I hope in the knowing we will strive to be better astral traveling sentient energy beings.

    64. In my simple way I would say bare essentially clear the being and the constructs such as mind and other electromagnetics lose their hold. This is a linear process until it hits the exponential stage where unpredictability becomes the norm. Who can govern unpredictability? And why would one? In today's clearing session I realized that on one of our levels of creation I had said, "Nothing good is going to come out of this" and I said it with 100% intention. I made myself "right" all the way down the infinite black vortex that I kept creating for myself (with some "help").
    Ortho, any form of government that maintains simple decency and order so that I can be just free enough to continue my work, but not putting too much burden on me What if you started with local self-governance? If I recall correctly the Old Testament God did have some practical civil ideas. One of them was for the people to rule themselves and there were circuit judges. I think they had circuit priests too who were only as good as the god they served. Then one day they decided they wanted a monarch.

    65. Yes, I was going to say something like that to Magamud. Yes, the more I clean myself up the more I discover another layer of hidden evil purposes. And that for now is called progress. This work fosters my connection with my higher self. Following your line of thought, if one took the demi-gods and prophets as just that and stayed connected with their own higher self...part of the bill of rights would elucidate the right to one's own sanity and the right of sovereignty of one's own higher self. Where are the religious halls and temples that teach one to culture that connection? As far as architecture, cultivate these rights, and you would be pleasantly amazed at the new level of arts that would surpass any cathedral. You would walk into any government or church building knowing that you are as special as any prophet or demi-god or other creator god or leader or beaurecrat, etc. Each man a sovereign.

    66. Im sure if a benevolent frequency needed help laying a foundational Namaste Govt they would ask you Orthodoxymoron! Thanks for your insight...

    67. Hi Ortho, I don't get the energy that you do off Magamud's post. You have indeed invested a lot of energy into this subject. And my take is that Magamud saw this and was stating that if (when) the guardians of the Solar System need advice then you would be an excelent source of input from the Earth Human perspective. It is also highly pluausable that at a higher level your higher self is indeed providing this input.

    68. It seems there is already an organisation that manages the Solar System. "Beyond our own Galaxy, there is a large organization of Galaxies who also follow the Path of Light, known as the "Intergalactic Union of Free Worlds". The function of this Organization is to coordinate and peacefully regulate affairs between the various Galaxies, Planets, and Solar Systems, and generally to uphold the Universal Law throughout our whole Universe. The MilkyWay's Galactic Federation is locally represented within our Solar System by another body called "The Interplanetary Federation of Planets'. This local Solar System Interplanetary Council convenes on the Planet Saturn with representatives drawn from all the other inhabited planets of our Solar System. Up to now, Planet Earth has not had its own native-born Third-Dimension Earthly Representative, and so until Earth has made its Ascension to the higher dimension and is able to join on a conscious level with the whole of our Solar System Federation, Commander Monka of the Ashtar Space Command has been appointed on our behalf to represent us at their Council Meetings.
    " http://www.thenewearth.org/newearth2.html#5 If we accept that as Human beings we are multidimensional then I would suggest at some level you are involved. It has nothing to do with good or bad. We are trying to move out of duality. When we make the ascension I vote "Othodoxymoron" to replace Monka as our representative !!!

    69. Sounds FAR FAR too American for my liking I'm afraid, I'm not anti American but lets face it the US seem to want to control Earth, next would be space, next the universe?

    This is really about a Perfected Humanity Living in a Perfected Solar System...Without Extermination, Enslavement, Gods, Goddesses, and Megalomaniacs. Basically...Creating Heaven Throughout the Solar System...Without a Theocracy. This could take thousands of years. We may even be lucky to simply survive. I'm not promising anyone a rose garden. I don't really know what we're up against. We may be in more trouble than even I think we are.

    A big thank-you to everyone who has contributed to this thread. I condensed all of the comments (other than mine) into one post (above). Then I re-read them...and I was very impressed with the responses. I learned a lot. I'm running out of what little steam I once had...and someone else needs to do what I can't with the principles and concepts in this thread. I really don't want to be a pest. I'm tired of bumping my threads...and probably everyone else is even more tired of this than I am.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:09 pm

    Here is a compilation of the comments from this thread, so far. See the previous post for a compilation of the comments from 'The United States of the Solar System' thread, on Avalon 1.

    1. Excellent!

    2. Hey ODM,

    Some of these so called factions you have mentioned, have been doing things for so long, that they don't know anything else. They have been doing it for thousands of years. Been doing it for so long that they know nothing else. Call it a habit. When Alex Collier mentions "a new place of knowing", the ones that have the oxygen based frequencies understand that concept. The hydrogen based ones do not.

    What you are asking for, is at present, impossible. Only a few seek some of the similarities you seek. What sticks out is what is in your heart and even though you may not think you are an experiencer, you certainly are. Just by anchoring your energies to the Planet, you are doing the Creator's will. So don't be so hard on yourself. Personally, I think what we all need to understand out of all of this is that we are heading to a new place of knowing. Asking the questions or asking about the possibilities is expressing freedom on many levels that we sometime can not see.

    Rest a sured, that things will be changing dramatically in our very near future. You can also say the darkside are even causing those changes to come into our near future that much sooner. Agreements were made and not honored. The darkside were presented with an ultimatum and the darkside, for it's own salvation, was given a way out for providing the services of the negative polarity they chose to participate in. They however didn't honor those agreements with the original intention and more or less said, "F U".

    A prime example are the Draconians. Including all the branches coming off of that lineage, which were sub contracted, which would include certain factions of Greys that are sentient, other Reptilian factions, and God knows what else.

    There is no reasoning with some of these groups. Their message is that if they can't have their way with this world, they will destroy it. And that message has been around for a long time now. But will that message become a reality? According to some who spread the fear mongering. But in reality, it is nothing more than the bully's resolve or better yet, his threat. I say this because there are to many others working on this Planet's behalf. Some of those who are found in our books of myth, who are present in the now, have always been in service to this Planet.

    If you also look at some who have gotten a real bad rap, by the darkside playing the discrediting card. Because we hear what the darkside put out there and believe without testing it out, assuming in ignorance that what they say is true.

    It would be so much easier if everyone would embrace self governance in alignment with the Grace of the Creator, instead of all this separation.

    The United Nations as it stands is a big fat joke. It has been hijacked. Talk about a building full of bad bricks. I have only dark things to say about this place and will not comment further.

    Just thought I would add my 2 cents and to let you know you aren't the only one in the woods.

    3. Aloha Lionhawk and Oxy. The questions that also come into play here are these: Is Px real and headed this way? Is the galactic wave real and headed this way?

    These are crucial questions because how can these other off-worlders be held responsible for destroying the planet if it is going to get a major overhaul from the nearing proximity of Px or being washed over by the galactic wave?

    One such vision from Dr. David Jacobs who wrote The Threat is that whole grey alien hybrid is for them to populate this planet AFTER what I suspect "the galactic wave." I'm still not sure about Px although I know quite a few others are convinced. My supposition about the wave is based on testimony from Eleni who is an abductee and did report that she had been taken tothe future to an underground city where she did personally experience the effects of the galactic wave. From what she reported I seriously doubt too many would survive such an event on the planet's surface. This brings us to the next question. Ascension or transformation into another density frequency as a result of experiencing the wave?

    We know that Astral Walker is claiming his ET resources showed him how Px is coming in and will effect the sun where the sun will expand (expect major mass CMEs) having a major impact on the solar system wiping out Mercury and Venus, then shuck its outer husk.

    There are also reports from other scientists who think that our solar system, including earth transiting the galactic plane will be pulled into the Milky Way galaxy.

    Who is to say if any of this will occur? Yet irrespective on what one thinks about the ETs I seriously doubt that they are responsible for the current and upcoming earth changes beyond what mankind has already done with his toxic pollution.

    4. Aloha Carol.
    Carol said,
    "We know that Astral Walker is claiming his ET resources showed him how Px is coming in and will effect the sun where the sun will expand (expect major mass CMEs) having a major impact on the solar system wiping out Mercury and Venus, then shuck its outer husk."

    Here's a question. If the solar system is alive as a whole body, why would the Sun destroy one or more of it's vital parts? Why does Astral Stalker's energy signature come from the lower fourth? Why is he in fear of what the sun might do? Why do the Draconians fear the Sun? Further more if you look at this with 3D eyes like the scientists do where everything as far as results are based in a reactionary type test tube, never seeing the Universal dance within that tube, is it a wonder we are fed with the resulting fear?

    The Galactic Wave has been verified. It is just a matter of when. Based on what actual evidence, who says it will destroy everything? The sad part of what an abductee might experience, is information being projected into the mind of that subject. Mind you I am not doubting what Eleni might have experienced. I have seen what some of these projections can do. Also the following behaviors that result from it. And if she was projected into the future, what she saw was a probability at best. That can always change in a second.

    What if this wave will bring the codes necessary for this sector to evolve? What if it can rewrite the codes that these other factions have tampered with in their quest for power? I say bring it on because according to what time I have spent on this, I do not see it as a negative thing. And what if it is a negative thing? Does that mean we will be destroyed? Maybe 3D wise. But the real answer to that is we won't be destroyed. I have witness the action of resurrection.

    While we are at it, since Earth was side stepped to another time line, who says we won't be put back on the original time line before this wave gets here? My point being is that so much can happen by the time it gets here. As long as we keep looking at things with 3D eyes, we will be constantly bombarded with the reactionary results steeped in fear. If we stay hypnotized by that fear, we will get caught in the wake of what may come.

    Here lately I have been working on some of these issues. What I haven't mentioned is what is going on behind the scenes in regards to some of what we call, Ascended Masters. They are preparing. As one stated he will come as himself after things settle from what is heading our way. If things go as planned, by the time Dec. 2012 gets here, we will already find ourselves in a new place of being and knowing before hand. I am very optimistic as to our future. It is upon us now. So enjoy the now with the ones you love and we will all be just fine. Folks like Astral Stalker are probably running for their lives, looking for a place to hide, keeping those around him in a state of fear, controlling their life streams to command his will from lower fourth density energy, forgetting their lives are already blessed. Another so called light worker bites the dust. It happens all the time sad to say. Reminds me of the movie Poltergeist where that preacher led his follows to a cave. Forever trapped, soul wise. These so called end days are very interesting indeed.

    Even the Grey invasion is a probability. There are so many probabilities and the majority of them have been nullified.

    When the colors of the planetary bodies start changing their colors and you see northern lights everywhere on the Planet, grab some popcorn and a diaper. LOL

    5. Orthodoxy this entire post is one of the best things you ever wrote .
    It 's brilliant my friend.
    It reminded me of the profoundness of that teenager's speech in front of the UN .
    " The girl who silenced the world for 5 minutes "
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQmz6Rbpnu0
    I think you could have your place by her there.

    Thank You

    6. Popcorn and a diaper, huh? Hahahahha.. I'm not afraid. What is there to be afraid of? Potentials are just that, potentials and have yet to manifest. And I tend to be pretty blase when things do happen where I'm

    I raise these questions because they are what pop into mind. I do recall what Patrick Geryl said and along with Paul LaViolette with respect to the superwave theory. And there is plenty of evidence of the sun doing its CME thingy from the past. If Px does come in closer with it's multiple trail of orbiting satellites it only stands to reason that there will be increased solar activity. And as I recall, the planet is also in an Oort cloud, an immense spherical cloud surrounding the planetary system and extending approximately 3 light years, about 30 trillion kilometers from the Sun.

    The other issue is the sun and massive CMEs the closer Px gets to it or do you think that just a hoax as well.

    Oxy, you've done it again. You've raised so many questions it's going to take me a good hour just to sort through it and think about the points you raise. However, I think the Black Madonna different, as is Kali (the dance of destruction is done without malice and Kali is not after collecting souls from what I know. That is what makes Lucifer different as Lucifer wants to be God and have people worship him. Yet we know that Lucifer was given control over this dominion and that those who know how to create heaven on earth will escape his influence. From what I know of those who are fully engaged in spiritual warfare, Reptilians are involved but I'm not sure about their relationship with Lucifer. Is it different? One friend who went through an exorcism spoke of the demons coming out of her that looked like dragons. To her this stuff is real.

    As for the Oort cloud there is info below.

    Tidal forces affecting the Oort cloud come from stars in the Milky Way's galactic disk with some pull from the galactic core. The tide results from the sun and comets being different distances from these massive amounts of matter. The force on the comets from these tides is greater than the perturbations of passing stars, and comets beyond 200,000 AU are easily lost to interstellar space. This pull contributes to the steady state which replenishes the outer comets that are randomly distributed away from the ecliptic plane.

    The total mass of comets in the Oort cloud is estimated to be 40 times that of Earth. This matter is believed to have originated at different distances and therefore temperatures from the sun, which explains the compositional diversity observed in comets.

    Typical noontime temperatures are four degrees Celsius above absolute zero. As temperatures move toward absolute zero, the kinetic energy of the molecules approach a finite value. Absolute zero should not be considered a state of zero energy without motion. There still remains some molecular energy, although it is at a minimum, at absolute zero.

    The Oort cloud is the source of long-period comets and possibly higher-inclination intermediate comets that were pulled into shorter period orbits by the planets, such as Halley and Swift-Tuttle. Comets can also shift their orbits due to jets of gas and dust that rocket from their icy surface as they approach the sun. Although they get off course, comets do have initial orbits with widely different ranges, from 200 years to once every million years or more. Comets entering the planetary region for the first time, come from an average distance of 44,000 astronomical units.

    Long period comets can appear at any time and come from any direction. Bright comets can usually be seen every 5-10 years. Two recent Oort cloud comets were Hyakutake and Hale-Bopp. Hyakutake was average in size, but came to 0.10 AU (15,000,000 km) from Earth, which made it appear especially spectacular. Hale-Bopp, on the other hand, was an unusually large and dynamic comet, ten times that of Halley at comparable distances from the sun, making it appear quite bright, even though it did not approach closer than 1.32 AU (197,000,000 km) to the Earth.

    The Kuiper Belt and The Oort Cloud

    There are presently nine known objects orbiting between Jupiter and Neptune (including 2060 Chiron (aka 95 P/Chiron) and 5145 Pholus; see the MPC's list). The IAU has designated this class of objects as Centaurs. These orbits are not stable. These objects are almost certainly "refugees" from the Kuiper Belt. Their future fate is not known. Some of these show some cometary activity (ie, their images are a little fuzzy indicating the presence of a diffuse coma). The largest of these is Chiron which is about 170 km in diameter, 20 times larger than Halley. If it ever is perturbed into an orbit that approaches the Sun it will be a truly spectacular comet.

    Curiously, it seems that the Oort Cloud objects were formed closer to the Sun than the Kuiper Belt objects. Small objects formed near the giant planets would have been ejected from the solar system by gravitational encounters. Those that didn't escape entirely formed the distant Oort Cloud. Small objects formed farther out had no such interactions and remained as the Kuiper Belt objects.

    Several Kuiper Belt objects have been discovered recently including 1992 QB1 and 1993 SC (above). They appear to be small icy bodies similar to Pluto and Triton (but mostly smaller). There are more than 800 known trans-Neptunian objects (as of early 2004); see the MPC's list. Many orbit in 3:2 resonance with Neptune (as does Pluto). Color measurements of some of the brightest have shown that they are unusually red. In late 2002, a Kuiper Belt object over 1000 km in diameter was discovered and provisionally designated 2002 LM60 "Quaoar". In early 2004 an even larger one, 2004 DW, was found (its size isn't well known yet, but it's almost certainly smaller than Pluto). And in late 2005 the discovery of 2003 UB313 (now officially named "Eris") was announced; it is very likely somewhat larger than Pluto.

    A team of astronomers led by Anita Cochran report that the Hubble Space Telescope has detected extremely faint Kuiper Belt objects (left). The objects are very small and faint perhaps only 20 km or so across. There may be as many as 100 million such comets in low-inclination orbits and shining brighter than the HST's magnitude-28 limit. (A follow-up HST observation failed to confirm this observation, however.)

    Spectra and photometric data have been obtained for 5145 Pholus. Its albedo is very low (less than 0.1). Its spectra indicates the presence of organic compounds, which are often very dark (e.g. the nucleus of Comet Halley).

    Some astronomers believe that Triton, Pluto and its moon Charon are merely the largest examples of Kuiper Belt objects (Pluto can still be considered a member of the Kuiper Belt in addition to its classification as a "dwarf planet").

    In 1950 Jan Oort noticed that

    1. no comet has been observed with an orbit that indicates that it came from interstellar space,
    2. there is a strong tendency for aphelia of long period comet orbits to lie at a distance of about 50,000 AU, and
    3. there is no preferential direction from which comets come.

    From this he proposed that comets reside in a vast cloud at the outer reaches of the solar system. This has come to be known as the Oort Cloud. The statistics imply that it may contain as many as a trillion (1e12) comets. Unfortunately, since the individual comets are so small and at such large distances, we have no direct evidence about the Oort Cloud.

    The Oort Cloud may account for a significant fraction of the mass of the solar system, perhaps as much or even more than Jupiter. (This is highly speculative, however; we don't know how many comets there are out there nor how big they are.)

    In 2004, the discovery of an object known as 2003 VB12 "Sedna" was announced. Its orbit is intermediate between the Kuiper Belt and what was previously thought to be the inner part of the Oort Cloud. Perhaps this object is the first of a new class of "inner Oort Cloud" objects.

    But Kuiper Belt and the Oort Cloud are more than distant curiosities. They are relatively pristine remnants of the nebula from which the entire solar system was formed. Their composition and distribution places important constraints on models of the early evolution of the solar system.

    7. From Spirit creation takes place manifesting the world we experience .
    Matter, energy , space , time and therefore the galaxy , the planets ,the stars , our sun are
    mirroring Consciousness as it evolves .
    The Sun to me is reflecting our Heart . As we individually and collectively center in our Heart allowing it to fully
    expand and open so will our Sun expand accordingly not as a threatening process but rather
    as the perfect mirror of our inner transformation.
    There is nothing to fear about this . As Lionhawk points out the whole universe is a living being.
    There is only life and the expression of Life in perfect balance always .
    As understanding of who we really are takes place , as we recognize the divine process we are integral part of expansion
    takes place and Light floods in.
    So Within So Without.

    8. Everything starts from imagination orthodoxy. Without it the world would'nt even exist. You have all it takes to accomplish your dream for you have the vision and your heart as the carrier wave. Write that book my friend and spread it viral . You've got the talent as a writer and you are truly inspired .And besides you can write so quickly that this book can be on the shelves right on time . No one else can do this for you but you can do it for everyone else.

    9. Solar governance?

    Gotta learn to walk before running.....

    Self governance would be a start!

    10. I would like to make a distinction (If I may) as I see it not being made and for those just coming into the Information - It is necessary.

    -//-

    When We talk about Personalities at the Dimensional Level of Powers and Principalities (Such as a Queen of Heaven or a Planetary Prince, etc.) - Gender is really about an intended look for the moment and is not a selection which is Static. IE - It is scalable and changeable depending on the Entity's / Personality's intentions in relation to actions It is undertaking at any one time.

    What I mean to say is that these Personalities can take on any Shape - Gender - or Position that They deem necessary so as to achieve Their Goals.

    In fact most personalities in the Higher 4th, 5th and Upper Densities would be considered by Us as Hermaphoditic in Gender. That said - You likely already knew this Oxy. Its simply for People scanning the Thread who may not be aware of It as I'd seen that it had not been displayed yet.

    11. You have to look within Oxy for if you search for Truth without it will always elude you . You may even find several truths standing in contradiction with one another opening the door to more and more speculation . And when you think you know the next moment you realize you don't .This is how we keep the world alive . If you could only for a moment stop the inner dialogue you may catch a glimpse of a freedom and peace that no mental process will ever reach and gradually begin to understand the world as it is in it's naked state.
    I wrote the following for a friend of mine lately but I realize I wrote it for all of us that get caught on the merry go round .

    Your longing for Mother wrapping you in her wings ... To let yourself sink to the very core of her Heart .
    To tune your soul and body to her soul and body and listen to her soothing song of everlasting peace .
    To let her kiss the darkest corners , inner turmoil, fears and bring them to complete rest .
    Stop the inner dialogue and find your way back to the perfect stand still .
    Lay down the arms , every thought that we hold to define ourselves and live our life with some sense of composure .
    Be completely naked in her womb ...stripped of every word , every idea , every single tremor in the mind .
    Withold nothing , give .. give away every thing so as to hold on to none .
    Let the walls crumble , the dream dissolve , remove the 3D plug .
    A moment of nothing , nothing at all , only trust in her arms .

    When humans become too much , when there is too much noise around , when one does'nt know anymore
    and one feels lost and tired ...Time to go blind , to go deaf , to go mute to this world and find that other world
    ever present , ever silent to this one , ever tranquil , ever beautifull and ever perfect .
    Mother holds you in her infinite Love and takes you there ...
    You close your eyes and hear the sound waves landing on the distant shore , the seagulls flapping their wings ,
    the sun warming your body , the soft breeze caressing your cheeks and blowing in your hair .
    As slowly you let go of it all you discover you can fly and reach the mountains ... the smell of the leaves and fresh earth
    under your feet ..the majesty of long standing trees holding their brothers and sisters over far reaching distances through
    their roots . The fragance of blue and yellow flowers are showing you the way to the hill's crown....Your true eyes allow
    you to see lands never visited before .. The water fall you meet gives you fresh and invigorating water to drink .
    You watch it running through every cell of your now transparent body making it glow with sparkling light .
    As sunset falls you gaze at the night sky filled with stars .
    Everything seems to fit ... nothing to add .. nothing to take away .....You know you reached the river of
    suspended time and you feel deep within a Love so great that it blinds you and you know at the core or your heart Mother has
    taught you once more that the cloth of infinity is what you are made of and where you belong , where you always are ,
    before you dream the world.


    Much love for you


    mudra

    12. I believe we will first have to bring peace within ourselves , our families , our communities , our countries , our Earth before we can contemplate beyond.

    Lao Russel was an inspiring person

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTCQf3iVssQ&feature=player_embedded


    Love from me
    mudra

    13. As well as It "Soothes the Savage Beast..."

    We must have both to Integrate them and appreciate a Third.

    14. orthodoxymoron wrote:
    So...do we need the bad side of Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, and Anna (in 'V') ?


    Its not that We need Them as Individuals per se but rather for the Lessons They teach Us about Others and Ourselves as well.

    In order to move past Error - One must see where Error was made - Understand the Error and thereby move through It in the Integration of Understanding how the Error came about so It doesn't get repeated...

    Sort of like been there - Seen that - Got the T-Shirt. This implies that One has come to understand what has gone before. How can One stay away from repeating another's Errors If they don't walk - At least figuratively in the Error-maker's Shoes ?

    Now honestly - All I meant to imply above by My comment is that "Music soothes the Savage Beast"...

    15. Oxy - I have downloaded the additional A.R. Bourdon & Eric Julien Material...

    I will read the Material tonight and have comments for You tomorrow. As I have said before - What makes You think You're the only One interested in Solar System Governance...



    Many are (And are working hard towards It) but We must get Planetary Governance straightened out first. That said - The Machine Gun cresecendo of the pace of Your questioning is remarkable and appreciated Dear Brother.

    That said - I will endeavour to be worthy of It. If only My Twin Flame wasn't in such need ATM - I could do better than I have. Owell - This will change...

    16.
    Raven wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:
    I was serious when I said that I hoped that this activity was being duly noted somewhere in the galaxy. I fear that we are headed down the wrong road, and that we will not turn back, regardless of the warnings, and regardless of the rantings and ravings of lunatics such as myself. I really wish that I had a shallow underground civilian base to go down into. At this point - I am ready to go down - and stay down - for a long, long time.


    Indeed Oxy, duly noted it is. You will not be alone hiding under those rocks.
    Rev.6 KJV

    [12] And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
    [13] And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
    [14] And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
    [15] And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
    [16] And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
    [17] For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?


    17. OK - I have read the Bourdon Material as well as the Julien Material and It correclates with what I have been trying to get out...

    -//-

    Simply put - I've been trying to tell many that the whole Rebellion / Power Struggle Issue has been Their Issue...

    The Bible is Their Story - Not Ours. Did We fall with Them - Yep - But then You'll follow someone Whos never lied to you before won't You...

    We've learned the Discernment on that one - Late Yes - But learned It We have...

    -//-

    BTW - As an aside...

    R.I.P.

    Zecharia Sitchin passed away last Week...

    Born July 1920 (age 90) - Baku, Azerbaijan SSR

    Died October 9, 2010 - New York, New York

    Thanks for the Enlightenment. You've shed light into Dark corners and for that - We thank You...

    > Go easy Zecharia...

    18. Yeah its definately a three way power struggle but lets simplify It first - Then complicate it later...



    > One Being wishes for a Larger Agenda to be implemented - Universe Wide (Perhaps Prime Creator ?).

    > Another Being is in Charge by proxy of that Agenda (Perhaps the local System Sovereign - Nannar / Christ Michael ?).

    > The Third Being wishes for there to be a different Agenda and be in Control of It (Perhaps Marduk / Lucifer ?)...

    That said - Their Battle of Armegeddon will be between the Kasim (The Remnant Annunaki) and the Useanesda (The Incomers from the Homeworld).

    Now guess Who's inbetween 'em as this gets going ?

    Yep - Us...

    19. Oxy - Since You seem to love Riddles and deciphering them I have a Path to trickle down in relation to the U.N. if You're Interested and utlimately a Truth You can expose to the Membership - If You're up for It?

    20. K - Well let Me set a premise...

    Their Plan is that the U.N. will be the One World Government under One Titular Head following which One Worldwide Religion ?

    Seriously - Find out which new Religion They are about to foist on Us and It will expose alot of what We and You have been talking about alot lately...

    Please post what You find and Yes - I have gone down this Path but find it will be useful to go about it this way to begin a more concise discussion of the Issue...

    21. Awesome and Their One World Religion will be based on the...

    Urantia Book.

    Their U.N. Theosophist was a student of Blavatsky's and Alice Bailey's Works. I'll have to find You His name...

    Hes like the U.N.'s Archbishop by Position even though there isn't a Position for It yet or so They tell Us.

    Ashtar Command - Gizeh Intelligence ring a bell ? Yep - All related...

    22. orthodoxymoron wrote:
    Are Ashtar Command and Gizeh Intelligence the same thing - or are they two factions of essentially the same group. Are they Annunaki, Masonic, Nazi, and Luciferian ?...

    ...I just want the problems to go away - and for everyone to be happy. Is that too much to ask?


    No Ashtar Command and the Gizeh Intelligence are not the same thing but as You have said - They are two factions of essentially the same Group.

    As I understand It - They are both Renegade Corps and are made up of Lyrans, Pleiadians, Sirians and such that do not fit into the Reptilian or Draconian Ranks...

    The Kasim (Remnant Annunaki / S.a.A.M.i.) have Their own Command for the Earth Mission of which Marduk is the Titular Head and shares power with a Council of Twelve. The Useaneshda (Incoming Annunaki / S.a.A.M.i.) are under S.a.A.M.e. Governance with Nannar as the Titular Head now taking over from Anu (Finally)...

    Yep - Theres alot of 'em and I'm only touching the surface here.

    The above said - The Ashtar Command was not always compromised as It is now but was taken over in a Mutiny led by the Renegades. When that Mutiny occurred I am not sure but it was a long time ago to be sure. Aeons likely...

    It will go back to Its rightful owner have no doubt of that. Just another Job in a long list of Jobs to do here before the Shift - LOL...

    23. You're not the only One that would like to tell Them where to go...

    You have It Oxy. We must be Sovereigns and Govern Ourselves...

    But how can One Govern Themselves if They are not Soveriegn ?

    Do You now see where I was going with this Idea of Sovereignty previously ?

    The Namaste Constitutionally Responsible and Free Solar System is an absolute impossibility WITHOUT Us being Sovereigns thereby ensuring It...

    Once We are Sovereign - The Model You've espoused will work very well.

    So with that said - We must learn to be Sovereign and through that as We Govern Ourselves in Unity and Harmony - We will make the Namaste Constitutionally Responsible and Free Solar System - A fact...

    24. What We must do is deserve a place at that Table by becoming Sovereign and this is in the ET's Words...

    Once We are of enough understanding - That place at the Table is waiting for Us...

    That said - Perhaps We now see why It is so important. If We don't become Sovereign as a Race on Our own by demanding and supporting the right kind of change not only in Our World - But in Ourselves - That place will not be forthcoming - And others will speak for Us by Proxy as has already been happening for Aeons...

    If We want that place at the Table - We must change Our ways and become Sovereign or Its a no-go - Period...

    So then one should say to Themselves at this Point - "Time to become Sovereign"...

    25. You are right in that it requires responsibility for Ones actions but moreso It is that the Individual Who is Sovereign seeks the Highest and Best Good of All Concerned in All Things before deciding on a course of action.

    In this respect it could be said that Christ Consciousness = Sovereignty - But that would be an oversimplification. What would better be said of this is that Sovereigns are Christ Conscious or hold the same understanding and responsibility as that.

    These Individuals by Governing Themselves responsibly - Are viewed as Sovereigns because They will not make a decision in which there is a loser and a winner. All will Win in effect by decisions that are made by Sovereigns. Now when I say All will win - This means that All will get what They focus on as it relates to a decision made by a Sovereign.

    Sovereigns will not violate the Free-will of another and are Integrated in that understanding. Sovereigns rule Themselves without the need of Rules or Governing by others as They know how to not Violate the Free-will of others not only by Their actions - But also by Their Mentalisms...

    Technically - We give up Our Sovereignty when We take on the Birth Certificate but that is Sophistry by Fallen Entities and truly - Act as a Sovereign and thou wilt be One...

    I will have to think on putting this into more of a Layman's understanding but I hope that the general thrust of My explanation here is adequate to begin the Discussion on It...

    26. orthodoxymoron I had the same problem as you until I found this information about the laws of the cosmos and what we are supposed to be doing to be self-responsible and to understand what is a win-win situation and free will

    http://www.synocracy.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=59&Itemid=57

    These are the kind of principles you are not going to be taught in school or church but they will align you with god source and the civilizations that are resonating with that frequency

    It is not easy to practice these principles in this world but the more one endeavours to do so the easier it becomes

    Aligning with god source has the added value that it changes the spin of the DNA too so it is a tool for ascension

    There may be others that list this principles and explain how they work but I have not found them yet.

    27. Don't get caught up on Win-Win semantics or front-load It too much. Launguage is so limited but what is meant by a Win-Win SITU with a Sovereign is that Negatives may be expressed if that is what those specific Individuals have focus'ed on.

    For instance - If Dark Ones Focus on Power over Others - Sovereigns should then act to ensure that any Free-will that the Darks have violated - Receives release if that is what They seek whereas in relation to the Dark pushing the Program - They would then be left alone to Contol each other - Also getting what They have focus'ed on - IE - Where Their Minds are at...

    You have it essentially - Become Fully responsible in order to Govern Oneself and One will then be Sovereign...

    28. Win-win has to be the best possible solution for all involved, it is unlikely that will happen in this planet as a whole because there is a mix of consciousness but, we can apply it to our immediate environment

    Lucifer can not compete with God Source because God Source as consciousness is so much bigger than Lucifer

    God does not compete, it does not have to. When you have it all and can create it all why will you compete?

    No one is asked to obey in a free will system, aligning with frequencies is what we do second by second. Some frequencies are enhancing and make us more whole others bring death to the body and eventually self-destruction

    Rebellion to what? When we rebel we disown our own creations, all that is around us is the product of our present frequency and hence a perfect response from consciousness. The way of changing reality is by changing our frequency to the direction we desire to create. It is not easy to understand this but thoughts are things and if we direct our thoughts honestly towards what we want we are more likely to manifest it than not. It is not simple because there is a collective creation too but the more we focus the energy the more things change in our immediate environment. The way to get things fast is by being grateful because all creations are co-creations. We are the architects but the elementals are the builders and so it takes two to tango hence being grateful helps

    Freedom is a state of mind, like joy or love. We feel free regardless of our outside circumstances and circumstances respond to our personal frequency too progressively

    Self responsibility is a good choice that leads us into self-love and many other wonderous ponderings

    The link that I mentioned contain very clear guidelines that can assist into learning how to co-create with the cosmos.

    29. Behold, oh beloved Mother Earth, you shall no longer be in twain.
    Your children by father sky have gathered to end your enduring pain.
    To heal your body in matter, joined to the love in your mind.
    A new family you have nourished to become caring, gentle and kind.

    Can you hear the movement up high in the heavens above?
    New trumpets are sounding, sending peace on the wings of a dove.
    The angels of the dark have found their maidens of Light's delight;
    in harmony together, they are entwining each other so tight.

    What peace is this? As above, so below and a true Love!
    Knowingly agreeable the netherworld has become and so suave.
    Redeemed are the darkness and the light as the ancient prototype,
    for all loves to follow, when the seeded fruits are ripe.

    Oh come home to Eden, all you Lucifers~ sons of the stars.
    All you Adams find your Luciferas, your Eves, end all the wars.
    Where are you Mars? Venus~Aphrodite come forth, be seen!
    Let your passions be two, in mind and in body, be ever so keen.

    New worlds are born in the joining of two bodies in One.
    God and Goddess together, just as every moon must have a sun.
    Its the end of the mystery, the closing of a night so dark.
    The dogs of Sirius are barking and announcing a new journey to embark.

    30. Watch this very carefully Oxy. Infact watch it several times, maybe it will sink in. I keep offering you the Red Pill and you keep choosing the Blue one. I do not hate you, just the bull$hiT you stand for and allow to blind you to the Truth.

    31. Barely,as its full of nothing but egotestical puritanical rantings from a completely ignorant fool, who would rather spend hours typing endless bathering bullshit out of his incessant mouth, and listening to his own"higher" ego then the True higher ego of the Divine.

    No comment, but if one reads your bullshit enough,one gets an idea as to the degree and level of how deep your rabbit hole goes. Mostly the hole leads right up your XXX.

    Oh bullshit oxy, you LOVE this XXXX, its all you talk about and point people in the direction of it!! Get over yourself already. You are an incredibly ignornant Xxxxx hiding behind a false puritanical skirt, who needs to grow some balls and accept his own self responsibility. Law of attraction baby, what you dish out will be in kind served back to you. Your so called sincere search is nothing but your own whining out loud,hoping for some small platitude from anyone taking the time to read your vomit.

    32. Has someone got their panties in a bunch? Oh wait....it must be that "True higher ego of the divine" speaking".
    Self Governance comes from knowing and understanding the Divine...............I'll bet that venom comes from one of those "aspects", or "archetypes"

    Divine understand? not so certain about that........ but non the less, "enlightening" words Raven.

    33. What do you want me to do Oxy? Unban her so the two of you can go at it? Her posting all that porn was over the top and she was insulting to another member... way insulting.

    Some have expressed I leave what she posted. I saved a few posts in the admin section but all the porn I deleted along with some of the more offensive posts. Disagreement is fine but how one disagrees plays an important role here. Posting porn to make a point isn't it.

    34. Rant is right! And you were right to expect just that. It's one thing to disagree, it's another thing all together to attack.

    35. Oxy, you may not have been offended but I and others were. And I made it very clear earlier if something is posted (with respect to porn pics) if it offends me, I will delete it. I could have left some of the other pics up but was so pissed off by that time I got a bit carried away and deleted them.

    I'm sure Raven has copies of the links somewhere.

    36. Oxy, you are a gentleman. And a member of this family - not just a guest.

    We can't allow the posting of porn and an ongoing relentless attack of another member to go without consequences.

    Currently she is banned for 100 days. The other admins and I will discuss this as it is important to include others input. This forum belong to the members. They can share their opinions as well.

    37. I sense a storm brewing in this thread. Not because of anything that Mercuriel or ODM has posted. But once that Thuban ooze seeps into any place, nothing good comes from it. I've seen the exchanges on that one.

    Fact of the matter is that once you do the work within, you will embrace your sovereignty and won't need a philosophy that originated outside of yourself. So for someone to say to go within and still be preaching from a Thuban pedestal is just simply hypocritical.

    One shoe doesn't fit all here. Much of it depends on the individual. To take a paint brush and consider everyone to be the same is an insane perspective. If you have to be guided by a philosophy so you can function, means you have already been compromised.

    And if you quote Jesus and never even met him, just goes to show you how really connected you are. Operating from a second hand perspective is second hand no matter how you slice it.

    And if I had to choose between ODM's constitution and the Thubans rhetoric, I would go with ODMs' and would work my arce off to make it happen. At least he embraces and invites everyone to the table. Instead of you being served up at a Thuban table.

    I throw caution to the wind at this moment. And whoever is listening in the background, just know I am still breathing and my memory is like an elephant. The exchange will not go in your favor this time around. This is not a threat but a promise. Thanks for the convincing exchange you provided last time. You will reap the wrath that you have sown and I will gladly deliver it.

    38. I agree with Brook on this one Oxy. Everybody evolves. It just depends where they are on the ladder. You're the man standing there reaching down offering hand to those nearby which is a good thing. But those who turn their back on god end up creating distance of their own making between the Divine and the hell realms. The hell realms are a place of darkness because these souls have taken themselves further into the hinderlands away from the light. Eventually, they too, according to Hindu philosophy - will continue to reincarnate until they move back into the light and are reabsorbed into source (singularity).

    What gives me hope is that the galactic wave... this major increase in cosmic gamma rays will infuse all on the planet and alter DNA and consciousness. It is an evolutionary step toward the light. And at that moment, individuals will have the opportunity to choose which path they will move towards.. to choose with consciousness. Those who cannot forgive themselves and are ashamed will sink. Those who seek singularity will rise. And all continue to evolve.

    39. ahhh

    Listening to Latin Masses nourishes the soul.

    40. I can see where you do miss Raven and am sorry about the action taken yet had to draw the line somewhere and porn is over the top for this forum. So is personally attacking another member. She is quite intelligent and was on a real roll with you and was challenging your constructs which wasn't a bad thing... yet the way it was done wasn't such a good thing either.

    I do think she may be on Tony's forum but don't have the link. I suspect she is angry at being blocked as no one who has that happen is too thrilled about it.

    I agree with what you posted here:

    Nothing short of a complete reformation of all churches and governments - to become completely in harmony with the concept of RESPONSIBILITY - will result in the last, great, true renaissance which will bring peace to the world, and to the solar system

    This is very astute.

    As you tend to post a lot of content it takes a bit to go through all of it to respond. So I'll keep this part short for now.

    41. ......hmm

    When Krisna’s friend Arjuna asked the same questions, Krisna said there is only way to know by meditation. The Maya queen (illusion) uses matter to condition us.
    Arjuna said ‘I have so many thoughts and questions…’ Krisna said - Yes, to stop your thoughts is as hard as to stop the wind, but only when you conquer your mind, you are free of thoughts you will free yourself to understand how matter and mind conditions us.

    Tagore said – if we can only think unconditionally with any ever made reference to any knowledge….

    42. Something like this:

    MISSION

    This site is devoted to the cause of non-interventionism and is read by libertarians, pacifists, leftists, "greens," and independents alike, as well as many on the Right who agree with our opposition to imperialism. Our initial project was to fight against intervention in the Balkans under the Clinton presidency. We applied the same principles to Clinton's campaigns in Haiti and Kosovo and bombings of Sudan and Afghanistan. Our politics are libertarian: our opposition to war is rooted in Randolph Bourne's concept that "War is the health of the State." With every war, America has made a "great leap" into statism, and as Bourne emphasized, "it is during war that one best understands the nature of that institution [the State]." At its core, that nature includes an ever increasing threat to individual liberty and the centralization of political power.

    Antiwar.com is one project of our parent foundation, the Randolph Bourne Institute. It is a program that provides a sounding board of interest to all who are concerned about U.S. foreign policy and its implications.

    In 1952, Garet Garrett, one of the last of the Old Right "isolationists," said it well:

    "Between government in the republican meaning, that is, Constitutional, representative, limited government, on the one hand, and Empire on the other hand, there is mortal enmity. Either one must forbid the other or one will destroy the other."

    This is the perception that informs our activism and inspires our dedication. Non-interventionism abroad is a corollary to non-interventionism at home. Randolph Bourne echoed this sentiment: "We cannot crusade against war without implicitly crusading against the State." Since opposition to war is at the heart of our philosophy, and single-issue politics is the only avenue open to us, Antiwar.com embodies the politics of the possible.

    Our dedication to libertarian principles, inspired in large part by the works and example of the late Murray N. Rothbard, is reflected on this site. While openly acknowledging that we have an agenda, the editors take seriously our purely journalistic mission, which is to get past the media filters and reveal the truth about America's foreign policy. Citing a wide variety of sources without fear or favor, and presenting our own views in the regular columns of various contributors, we clearly differentiate between fact and opinion, and let our readers know which is which.

    The pressing need for "citizen experts" is the reason we set up Antiwar.com. In this process, the site evolved very quickly into an online magazine and research tool designed to keep the American people and the world informed about the overseas plans of the American government. The history of our site and of American foreign policy demonstrates the demand for such experts.

    The founders of Antiwar.com were active in the Libertarian Party during the 1970s; in 1983, we founded the Libertarian Republican Organizing Committee to work as a libertarian caucus within the GOP. Today, we are seeking to challenge the traditional politics of "Left" and "Right." At present, none of the existing parties or activist groups offer an effective vehicle for principled libertarian politics. Yet even in the absence of a party of liberty, we cannot abstain from the struggle. We strive to lead the non-interventionist cause and the peace movements that many respected institutions have forgotten.

    Forged in the experience of the first Balkan war, Antiwar.com has become the Internet newspaper of record for a growing international movement, the central locus of opposition to a new imperialism that masks its ambitions in the rhetoric of "human rights," "humanitarianism," "freedom from terror," and "global democracy." The totalitarian liberals and social democrats of the West have unilaterally and arrogantly abolished national sovereignty and openly seek to overthrow all who would oppose their bid for global hegemony. They have made enemies of the patriots of all countries, and it is time for those enemies to unite – or perish alone.

    Antiwar.com represents the truly pro-America side of the foreign policy debate. With our focus on a less centralized government and freedom at home, we consider ourselves the real American patriots. "America first!" regards the traditions of a republican government and non-interventionism as paramount to freedom – a concept that helped forge the foundation of this nation.
    THE FUTURE

    Antiwar.com is already fighting the next information war: we are dedicated to the proposition that war hawks and our leaders are not going to be allowed to get away with it unopposed and unchallenged. The War Party is well-organized, well-financed, and very focused. They know what they want: a renewal of the Cold War, increased military spending, and a globalist mission that would project American power from the Middle East to the Korean peninsula and all points in between. And they know how to get it: mobilizing special interest groups and key corporate allies in a propaganda war designed to win the hearts if not the minds of the American people. The antiwar forces, on the other hand, are not so well-positioned. Everyone is for peace, in theory at least, but there is no one group of Americans especially disposed to work for it, outside of small religious groups such as the Quakers and the Catholic Worker movement.

    Lacking a centrally coordinated leadership, without financial resources of any significance, and incredibly diverse, the organized opposition to the first Balkan war was unfocused and of limited effectiveness. Currently, the antiwar movement against a war on Iraq is considered anti-American and left-wing. However, we are changing this perception by leading the cause of the patriotic peace movement, which understands the true costs of war. Unfortunately, the organizations pushing for actions in Afghanistan, Iraq, and other areas around the world are stronger and better focused. Antiwar.com has become an integral part of the movement against these groups and for peace by disseminating accurate news and commentary.

    Antiwar.com is dedicated to building an awareness of the globalist and interventionist forces that would enslave us all in a New World Order on which the sun never sets. But we can't do it without you. Tell your friends about Antiwar.com, and also help us do our job by bringing items to our attention. We are always looking for material, and we welcome your suggestions, whether of links or in the form of original articles submitted to the editors.

    http://antiwar.com/who.php

    43. I have been reading your posts for a couple of years now, from AV1 to The Mists.
    Most of your posts have been about governance... Who is in control? Who do want in control? What type of control is best?

    Honestly, though, the overriding thought that I always have is that I do not want to be governed. Period.
    To me, choosing which type of government I want to replace the current governments is akin to choosing which new type of poison I want added to my drinking water as a replacement for the currently present poisons.

    Govern - To take control. Rule. Hold in check.
    A government of any type will create a power struggle. Whenever there is a hierarchical system, there will be those who wish to be at the top of the pyramid...who will suppress and trample others to reach the top. In my opinion, anything resembling government as we know it will produce the same results as our current governments are producing. The basic structure of "The Church" is the same as that of the government...

    The only solution to our problems that I can propose, is to treat each other with kindness and compassion. We must truly be filled with love for ourselves, our neighbors, our planet, our solar system, etc. I believe that love IS the solution. Be filled with love, and everything else will fall into place.

    44. This is an Awesome Video. Please watch It as It will tie into the Issues You and I have been discussing lately.

    Video > The Secret behind Secret Societies

    That said - As an aside to providing a more detailed answer to You about Lucifer choosing / not choosing Annihilation - I will have to Post that answer to You on Tuesday.

    The reason being that as I sat at home last night going over what I was going to detail in displaying this - I realized that I needed to make up some Diagrams and such as visual aids to go along with the display of that Info. As I am @ Work today and tomorrow - I will have to create them at Home. The PCs here don't really have any good Imaging Programs to use for that purpose.

    Now as I'm doing 12 Hour Shifts - When I get Home I don't have alot of time to do much of anything before I have to go to Bed for the next day's Work - So - If You would be so gracious as to allow Me to reply to the Lucifer Issue once I'm off on Tuesday - I'd appreciate It greatly.

    45. Its good to know that You've seen the Video I mentioned and Linked. It will help greatly in the explanation to follow.

    46. 105 Powers Creator has...

    -//-

    In dissection of that ;

    > 33 Degrees of the Scottish Rite...

    > The Lesser Book of Solomon - The Legemeton - Mentions the 72 Ineffable Names of God - Or more succinctly - The Fallen 72 Powers and Principalities that Solomon called on in His Time...

    Now - 33 + 72 = 105 > The Powers of Creator...

    Its simply a matter of Us believing through Knowing how It comes about - That We are Indeed on the 105th Floor having forgotten We're Creator trying to remember Who We really are.

    That being Our Origins and Reason for being in Matter in the first place...

    Pater = Father

    Mater = Mother

    Alma Mater = All - My Mother...

    47. We are currently in Containers (Bodys) They have seriously edited to be what They desire and yet still We thrive...

    Spirit having a Body Holmes and as They had a part in that Body and have Warred to Control It - That is Their connection - Nothing more and when You see how Its You as an Aspect of Spirit in this Body - Not a Body having Spirit - The Container is simply that.

    We are not the Container - It merely contains Us as We chose It coming in and breaking that Bond through Knowing It's true Origins - Moves One beyond Their Control or any Other's for that mater.

    More on this tomorrow...

    48. My Dear Brother,

    Have no worry that Your Posts seem to fall on Deaf Ears. They do not. I mean look at the Views...

    Over 2000...

    Not many answer Me either but it bothers Me not.

    You ask questions that MANY have no idea how to answer. They're going through these same Issues Themselves about what to think through coming into Gnosis and so I prefer to think of it this way.

    We are Vibration. Our Questions and Utterances into the Reality are also Vibrations. Like Ripples in a Pool there will be an answering Ripple from every Originating One. That You ask is immensely important so never stop. We think therefore We are so to speak and so if We stop thinking - Will We still be ?

    In the current Earth / Terran Drama - We are in the Hybrid Container - Part Reptilian / Part Mammalian - Some being 30/70 - And some being 70/30 but that is a lesser understanding if We stop there. That stated though - They are family of a sort - Grandparents if You will in terms of Species developement and We have through those Genetics - The same potential to Evolve as They have. Hence Their attempts at Edits over time. Another question at this point would be - Who created Them before They created Us as the Hybrid ? Eh ?

    The Body / Avatar - In All Instances - Is the Vehicle and the case here is that We're driving on Roads They've set before Us. Our Task here is to take Our Vehicle off road if You will and drive that Vehicle without Their Regulations interferring in the Experience.

    Consciousness comes to Planets by way of "Life Carriers" for lack of a better Name. They place "Consciousness Anchors" and Awareness then gathers in the Magnetospere of said Planet. These "Anchors" are not placed however until there are Vehicles on said Planets that have evolved enough so as to be Containers for Them.

    Lake Vostok - Antartica

    "Early research into Lake Vostok indicated that the body of water had a depth of 2,000 feet—far deeper than any of the Great Lakes and half as deep as Asia’s Lake Baikal (5,000 feet)—a length of 300 miles and a width of 50 miles. Contrary to what was initially believed, the lake received filtered light. Further investigations also detected the existence of geothermal sources which warmed the lake to an astonishing 50 degrees Fahrenheit, with “hot spots” of up to 65 degrees. Given these new discoveries regarding solar radiation and temperature, scientists suggested the possibility that the lake’s encapsulated atmosphere purified itself through a complex interaction with water, and that the chances for vegetable life forms were very good.

    Research conducted by Russian scientist Ian Toskovoi—who vanished near the Vostok station in March 2000—on “geothermal upboiling” also hinted at an alternative means of purification and replenishment for the subterranean lake’s atmosphere. Toskovoi’s geothermal upboils were located in the so-called “ice dunes,” which appear to be formed by thousands of bubbles of air measuring between several feet to several hundred feet.

    However, the most intriguing news coming out of Antarctica had to do with the extremely powerful “magnetic anomaly” located in the northern end of the lake’s coast: a discovery which would give rise to a number of conjectures and would be compared with the fictional TMA-1 (Tycho Magnetic Anomaly-1) in the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey.

    The electronic newspaper Antarctic Sun (www.polar.org), which soon became the main source of information on the Lake Vostok magnetic anomaly, stated that during the initial flight of the SOAR (Support Office for Aero-physical Research), aimed at conducting magnetic resonance imaging over the area, the magnetometer recorded an increase of 1,000 nanoteslas beyond the 60,000 nanoteslas which characterized the Vostok Station. Scientists had expected to find magnetic anomalies in the range of 500 to 600 nanoteslas in areas where volcanic material could be located, but the ranges encountered were simply startling. “This anomaly is so large that it cannot be the product of a daily change in the magnetic field,” stated Michael Studinger, one of the researchers involved in the mapping endeavor.

    Also significant was the sheer size of the anomaly: 65 by 46 square miles. According to the mission’s geological team, the anomaly’s size and severity pointed to the fact that geological changes had taken place under the lake, suggesting the possibility that it was a place where “the earth’s crust was thinner.”

    Ellesmere Island - Northern Canada

    "A 1965 paper presented by Canadian geophysicist John M. DeLaurier of the Dominion of Canada Observatory. According to this scientist, there was something strange going on beneath the ground at Ellesmere Island, a barren location mostly covered by glacial icecap and roamed by herds of caribou and musk oxen.

    Professor DeLaurier’s paper discussed the existence of a structure so vast that it defied imagination—a quasi-cylindrical loaf of an object measuring 65 miles long by 65 miles thick at a staggering depth of 80 miles. The huge structure had been detected by seismic equipment located at Alert, one of the U.S.-Canadian Distant Early Warning (DEW) stations in the Arctic wilderness. Studies showed that the object, which straddled the earth’s mantle and crust, was the source of some sort of disturbance—similar to the situation encountered at Lake Vostok 30-odd years later—affecting the magnetic field at the Alert facility and “inducing a strong flow of electricity.”

    Official sources have not provided much additional information regarding the mysterious Antarctic lake, and the controversy rages on across the Internet, while hundreds of different opinions clash over the nature of the goings-on at this remote location.

    In early March 2001, a U.S. channeler known as Lady Kadjina replied to a series of questions regarding the mystery of Lake Vostok. Regarding the nature of the magnetic anomaly, she declared that long before the Antarctic became icebound, the continent had been used as a landing site by extraterrestrials. The ever-benevolent aliens built what we would call an observatory, explained the channeler, equipped with a signalling device capable of broadcasting coded messages. More and more such observatories would be discovered in coming months, and Earth governments would try to seize them. Lady Kadjina added that the observatory contained vast crystals which put forth a certain kind of magnetism, which had been employed as a guidance system so that large spaceships could land at that location.

    Research Lake Vostok (Magnetic Anomaly under Ice) as well as Ellesmere Island (Magnetic Anomaly). In one Word - Monoliths of Immense size...

    49. Oh I agree but I would offer up this in reply. I surely cannot make anyone believe any Video - Picture - Or Audio Sample but I would say that what the attempt is not to have any One believe anything sacrosanctly - But rather to expand another's Consiousness by showing the possiblilities that are out there.

    In most instances - I post Pictures to promote the thought about them - Not to say - This is that or that is this - And I'm sure in many instances You do too. That said though - Pictures I have posted have turned out to be used by Shows such as the History Channel's "Thats Impossible" - And "Ancient Aliens" as well. Why do I have 'em. To be Honest - Many I have found while lurking the lonely halls of the Net while the World Sleeps and others I've been sent by those I've come to Trust as wanting to get the Info out.

    That said - As You are going through Our Astronauts and what They have said about this Issue or Issues related - You must be aware that ALOT of Them Craters up there do not fit the Shape that They should have for the Impacts that are visually displayed at Ground Level. I mean some of Them Craters seem to suggest that They're Holes and not Craters using various Imaging Filters.

    So - If We see a Moon like Phobos to be something other than a Moon - The Logical next thought is that We must be dealing with at least a Level 2 Civilization in terms of It's Galactic capabilities...

    IE - Battlestars and or Planetoid sized Ships for lake of a better descriptor.

    Seen the Sun lately LOL...
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    Continued comment compilation.

    50. Your not paranoid friend hehehe. I'm slightly clairvoyant and I can clearly see myself being watched by entities assigned to me, whereas the average person does not realize they are being watched by those that are assigned to them 24/7. They are there when you shower, go to the bathroom, download movies off the net without paying for it etc, hehe.

    51. Duplicate of 50.

    52. Orthodoxy have you ever considered putting all this material from this thread into a book? Happened to read the Lacerta files on this Thread (do you have the material in another post as well?) and find the material quite fascinating as I am interested in the evolution of mankind our species. I do believe that you are a genius who very few are taking seriously. Keep up the good work.

    53. Oxy who were all those men in that pic post 257? Please be more easy on yourself...reading some 100 day challenge posts may help. I was thinking today about a few "evil" souls in the world (e.g.Prince Philip, Henry Kissinger) and finding it awfully difficult to be in a forgiving mood if and when they take the big plunge (Death) thinking only or wondering if they'd only get a "slap on the wrist" on their Journey towards their own Hell. Will the Creator have anything to do with such Souls or does the Creator wash the hands of such an ugly mess.

    54. Hi OXY. I've had you on my mind these past few days and was dreaming last night and thinking of you. In the dream I was traveling through a worm hole having a great time.. I reached a place where I saw a fence blocking my way and remembered who I was (sans physical form) and just passed right through it as it was nothing other then a construct, an illusion of something that in essence was nothing unless I chose to make it something by pretending it was real and looking for a way to climb over, walk around, find a gate, etc. Constructs are all illusion unless we choose to give meaning to them. So as I was passing through the fence like a ghost I was laughing enjoying knowing who I really was, a spiritual being with a multidimensional body as are you OXY.

    55. Beautiul pictures Oxy. When Raven comes back I let you two go at it and stay out of it. However, porn pics will be deleted. There was feedback from the members who thought you needed some protecting. Given how you keep calling Lucifer into play it seems you have more to work on. Only what you may have overlooked is that Lucifer is here and has changed his path. All that is left are those who are still committed to the path of endarkenment.

    56. Did Raven say they were coming back? Did she change her avatar too? I was a little disappointed to see that person go, because I always thought the people here were mature enough to handle any opinion, even if they disagree, even if the person believes in Satanism or Lucifereanism, etc. My reasoning is people that are preaching love and light and oneness, have the perfect opportunity to practice it in real life online, without having to resort to censorship. My ideal vision for the whole New Age Movement, is for it to move in a direction, where people say whatever they want, and even if they don't agree, they just don't say anything negative or hurtful in return, a movement where everything is tolerated, everyone minds their own business, resulting in true authenticity, instead of a PA2 hive feeling. I suppose I find it appalling, and amusing simultaneously, when lightworkers go berserk online. I'm disappointed at them for not practicing what they preach, but not surprised at the same time. heh

    57. Oxy - Did you ever read Angels of the Cosmos by Masao Murata. Its little known in the west but there you may find something akin to your namaste constitution. He travelled quite wildely throughout this solar system and documented his findings. Check it out. http://openlibrary.org/books/OL12489925M/Angels_of_the_Cosmos

    58. Good stuff, Oxy! btw, always keep in mind that your posts at MoA are much appericiated!

    59. A real thanks for the link of this phantastic music ican imagine how it sounds in a big old middleage church continue with your thread you are not the only one confused in this times. All the best - sabina

    60. Why is everything important, a great big military secret?

    The main reason for this is the problem of religion. That has been articulated fairly clearly. Funny isn't it? All other issues have been dealt with. This one seems impossible to deal with. This is the final reason for the secrecy.

    Why is common sense a threat to national security?

    Power wants to sustain itself. It has a life of its own.

    Until we get rid of the religious baggage we will continue to go down this road. Its, as you suggest...inevitable.

    61. All I can say is......

    Go GET 'EM! I'll hold your cape!

    62. Hey Oxy...this rocks and is just lovely...will this continue? Please...

    63. yeah great stuff...
    i used to love science fiction til it became so 'popular'...
    the sci-fi channel makes me wanna puke!
    stargate in particular,always annoyed me because it's so militaristic-
    and the characters seem shallow...
    well i never been much of a reader since i was a kid...but i think if they'd use good writers-like you oxy-er-ortho! ...well they might interest me more
    oh i don't know...
    but truth being stranger than fiction makes us all potentially good writers,i reckon-
    i don't know how ready i am for whatever's happening,but i like the way you refuse to condemn even condemnation
    me-i condemn condemnation...haha...a condom nation...a no-bomination...
    well it's so lovely to see such bright posters-i feel dimmer than ever...but i reckon all is not yet lost-
    greetings from cold-XXX michigan- there's warm people here tho...
    here'n'there..
    how many billionaires we got here-just curious!
    pm me! feel free!

    64. imo all this religious figures have the same source they are painted different because of cultural
    difference in time and space(asia or europe or americas)
    and as we know after a war the winner religion got intermingeld mixed up with the origin tha`s why we have this salad now.
    Iwould like to read this secret libary in the vatican even my latin is very rudimentaer but I would like to know ! that`s why we have as humanity this difficulties we don`t know the origin.
    Ihope some day soon very soon we as humanity will find out for sure what was happened.
    All the best - Sabina

    65. Have to laugh loud about your tranquilizer gun nice said maybe you are right and the truth is as bad as
    we think, maybe not anyway we have to know it, the truth,
    otherwise we will not be free!
    All the best - sabina

    66. OXY, I love reading your posts as they often have me laughing as you are so brilliant in how you explore all of this while also maintaining a wicked sense of humor. No wonder your threads are so popular (read by so many members and guests). I dare say you keep them speechless because you cover the topic so throughly there isn't much left to say.

    Reading your text is like taking a multi-vitamin aa it has everything in there to think upon. You take us on a journey of self-exploration to a very deep level... and still demonstrate how one can dive down deep into the psyche and pop back up like a cork. It's like watching Jack Horner in the corner pulling out delicious plumbs.

    67. Perhaps, perhaps not. I enjoy your process. And you're correct in your assessment that in the beginning there are sooo many questions. I had so many questions my head was constantly spinning for years. My curiousity has me visiting hundreds of sites a day and this has been going on for the past 15 years. I'm still unquenchable. I'm still learning new things and still amazed with what there is to learn. And the best part is that learning is the Neverending Story.

    I find myself in a state of fascination and wonder.. or catch mysel thinking, "Well, imagine that." What I love best is science, art, music, architecture, different cultures..nature, gardens, beauty, it's an endless list. Everyday there is something new to learn about. And I do dive down into topics to explore more and love traveling links to see where they'll take me. Each day is a journey of constant discovery.

    I think what you see in us is just another aspect of yourself being reflected back.

    Years back, I do recall many hours spent in meditation stripping away illusion (it's all maya) until I got down to the bare bones.. which was nothing. But not the nothing where one is bored or thinks of it as a vapid empty pit. The real NO THING is astoundaing because it is pure conscious awareness in a primordial soup of creative potential. What a revelation that experience was.

    So.. one does have to travel beyond the monkey mind to get to such an experience and the experience is well worth it.

    You will never grow old as long as your maintain your curiousity Oxy.

    And if it makes you feel any better, I suspect I'm the eldest member on this forum. I've had a longer time then many to travel these pathways.

    68. Oxy, Jesus was and still is royalty. His life on earth by his choice was that of a humble man. He led by example so that the poorest individual he came across would know that Jesus was there for him or her too.

    No he was not a wimp. He was a learned man who had great courage and changed mens and womens hearts. His message was that he and god were available to everyone and that all were equal and worthy in Gods eyes who loved Jesus and God.

    69. Go to that still quiet place within and there you will find him as he is indwelling once he has been invited into your heart.
    By the way, the picture o Miller's second coming is hysterical.

    70. Maybe humanity is on the cusp of a great opportunity. Humanity, especially in the west, has long since secured its own demise, this probably due to problems with egoic consciousness. Humans have always tried to be the centre of attention at a great big party saying 'look at me, look at me, aren't I wonderful, when the party was all about the Planet Earth.

    Is humanity coming apart at the seams? Well it has certainly missed the boat when it comes to respecting each other and the natural kingdoms around us aswell as our Planet in general. We have been literally shitting on our own doorstep for centuries and are now left with a repugnant stench forcing our landord (gaia) to evict us.

    If planetary changes do happen (and there are indications that this may be the case) then perhaps it will be on the terms of the planet. Humanity will only be allowed along for the ride if it subscribes to a certain set of criteria for living harmoniously on Planet Earth along with its fellow beings plants, minerals and creatures. Perhaps on other planets in this solar system, this condition of planetary existence has already been reached and maybe it is now Earth's window of opportunity to emulate our celestial brothers and sisters. Clearly, if we continue along our current path it will lead to destruction. There are forces of control manipulating this to be the case but they have little to do with our planet and will ultimately fail one would like to think. We live in interesting times. Maybe humanity has not completely disintergrated Oxy but perhaps there is still scope for a human legacy on this planet, unrecognizeable from its self centred and destructive past.

    Nice post by the way.

    71. Hey Oxy...you should know that you've been respected exactly for what you are, who you are...and what you do here in this cyber world (and I guess the one who know you personaly, do the same in your real world).

    Personaly, I find your work to be very, very "hard core" kind of material to be digested, but despite that fact, I admire your persistence to continue your work on establishing the fundaments of a new constitutional responsible freedom solar system.

    I might not agree with you completelly, just for the sake of the fact that I highly feel that no constitutinal nor any other rules are needed in order to live in adjustment with the only real divine rules...but hey, if this is supposed to be a kind of between-stepp, your idea sounds pretty good.

    This is what I wanted to let you know.

    much respect
    mall...

    72. hmmm, I was wondering why people are mostly sitting in a back in this picture.
    Ortho, you have an excellent talent writing your thoughts. I enjoy reading. d.

    73. Yep - Its called Reflectivity and the Most Ancient of Days as an Aspect of First Source collates and collects It on all of Us in Matter.

    With that said - perhaps if One was able to go to the Melchizedek Spheres or had access to the Most Ancient of Days Archives - One would be able to detail that.

    -//-

    Additionally - Accessing the Ahkashic at a High Vibrational Level would also get One that Info but exclusive of that - A Person will have to wait for the incoming Upgrade to finish (5D Upgrade) or for Translation to the next Sphere/School in the Interlife as Carol calls It.

    74. Well - No - Not in any One Book or learning can You find the Information I've posted. What I've posted has been gleaned through many Sources over the Course of My investigations.

    That said - Some of the Principle of Reflectivity is presented in the Urantia Book as a concept and is pretty much on track as it regards the mechanism of It. Search the Term "Thought-Adjuster"...

    The Ahkashic has ALL Information Past - Present and Future and is essentially the Flow of Reflectivity back to the Seventh Master Spirit through the Most Ancient of Days as It's Collection Point or Collater in this Universe.

    As regards the Melchizedeks - I found out some things about Them in the Book of Enoch as well as the Ars Goetia and the Urantia Book...

    This is why I have a Problem with a Mortal calling Themselves Melchizedek as the Term Melchizedek essentially means "Teacher" and is a Group of the Descendancy and not of the Ascendancy.

    (See Jacob's Ladder)

    The only Time there was a Melchizedek in the Flesh on Earth was during the Times of Enoch (Even though Abram is rumored to have been Taught or Guided by a Melchizedek Its My gut instinct that this was just an Anuk - Playacting).

    The Dispensation on Earth of the Melchizedek was a Dispensation of Christ Michael (The Sovereign Vice-regent of Our Local System) - As was Jeshua many many Years later...

    As far as the Translation goes - Thats crossing over and I am sure none of Us would want You to go quite yet Oxy...

    Search out the Terms Oxy. I've given You a great deal to research if You're willing to look for It...

    75. At the beginning of this System (Nebadon) the Sovereign placed in charge of It was called Christ Michael - A Creator Son and part of the Descendancy into Matter. He was mated with a Mother Spirit and They took over the Administration of this System as Co-ordinate representations of Prime Creator - In Matter - For Our System.

    Now before Christ Michael could be given full Sovereignty over the System of Nebadon - He was required to have Seven Dispensations of Fragmentation so as to come to know through Being - The Lifeforms that He and the Mother Spirit were to nurture in the Ascendancy back to First Source and Center of All Things.

    These Dispensations / Fragmentations came in the following Forms...

    A Life as an Archangelic > Archangel Michael...

    A Life as a Mechizedek > The Melchizedek rumored to have instructed Enoch. These Beings are also the Teachers of the Lanonandeks and the Verondadeks...

    A Life as a Morontial (Between Spirit and Matter - 5D & 6D).

    A Life as a Mortal - Yeshua Ben Joseph Al Mashayah...

    A Life as a Verondadek - A Lifeform in the Descendancy (6D) - Teachers to the Ascended as They move through the Higher Schools or Realms...

    A Life as a Lanonandek - Another Lifeform in the Descendancy (6D & 7D). Lucifer and Satan were Two Sons of the Primary Order within this Group of Lifeforms...

    And a Life as a Midwayer - Assistant to the Mortal and Nature. This is a Group of Lifeforms that resides between the 4th and 5th Dimensions.

    Now once Christ Michael had accomplished all of these Dispensations / Fragmentations / Incarnations - He was then given Vice-Regency and Sovereignty over the System of Nebadon by Prime Creator - Through this Universe's Seventh Master Spirit - The Co-ordinate of Prime Creator as It moves into Matter in this specific Superuniverse...

    As Fragmentation is the norm in Co-ordinate Representation - All Beings under Christ Michael are Co-ordinates of Him and the Mother Spirit and conversely - All Creator Sons and Mother Spirits are Co-ordinates of the Seventh Master Spirit - And Hence a Co-odinate Representation of Prime Creator in this particular Superuniverse.

    That should get some wheels turning...

    76. Merc...did I remember correctly to have read somewhere (I can't find the appropriate file or link now, there are so many memorized on my notebook), that Christ Michael found the fourth dispensation

    A Life as a Mortal - Yeshua Ben Joseph Al Mashayah

    to be the most difficult one?

    It's so long ago I've read this...but I'm sure I read it definitely.

    If true...do you know the reasons why he "felt" like that?

    respect - Mall...

    77. You are correct Mal.

    The reason for this is that as any of the other Lifeforms - Overtop Knowledge is available in some form and Assitance in those Realms is easy to find.

    That said - As a Mortal - The Task was to come back into Knowing without any of that Overtop Knowledge or Assitance. Now as many of Us can attest to - This is the most difficult way to return to Source - On Our own that is - But with that stated - It is the most Profitable in Terms of Soul growth due to the difficulty of It...

    78. Thanks Merc. I remember now that when he announced this dispensation, he told the other that this time, he will "not be present around" as it was the case with the other dispensations.

    Back then, I wondered what that might mean that he wont be present there...until I discovered that actually, he was intending to incarnate as human...choose to "cut" hiw awarenes from the higher realms of existence completely (at least the part of it neccesary to)...and walk the path of "forgiveness".

    And that yes, this should be the most profitable in terms of his soul growth after he's back.

    Thanks for the reminder again

    Mal...

    79. Not a Prob Mal...

    BTW just to finish the thought - When Christ Michael Incarnated as Yeshua - Archangel Gabriel was placed in Charge as Proxy until He'd returned from that Dispensation...

    Archangel Gabriel is under and directly Co-ordinate to Christ Michael and the Mother Spirit at the next level towards Us. This is why He was placed in Charge as Proxy during that Dispensation - Being First Son of Christ Michael and the Mother Spirit.

    For the most part though when Christ Michael and the Mother Spirit are in normal attendance - Gabriel is then Head of the Angelic Host for Christ Michael and the Mother Spirit in this System of Nebadon (Better known as The Milky Way)...

    80. Are you a fan of the Urantia book Merc? I remember the midwayer data to be mostly from Urantia, and George Mathieu Barnard. I always found it to be very strange, because I asked George about the Illuminati when I was 16, a long long time ago. And he said illuminati used to mean "enlightened one" or something like that, so I became very suspicious of Urantia and George after that, and decided not to interact with them anymore. I'm not sure what the heck is going on with the Urantia book material. Maybe, some truth was mixed in with dis-info by different factions, and other parts were mistranslated. Because when I was 16 interacting with George, a red flag got set off with me when he said that. What do you think of it Mercuriel?

    81. I have many Flags about the Urantia Material also but the reason why I digested some of It's info is that I found out from a Source of mine that NO Book is the whole Truth and this is the same with the Urantia Book...

    What this Source did say to Me was that the Urantia Book was about 85% accurate in terms of Heirarchy and that the other 15% was a Polarized take on the Spiritual Heirarchy for the following Reasons...

    There are Three types of Beings in Alignment. They are Negatives - Positives - And the Christ Conscious or Integrated.

    As the Positive Heirarchy put out the Urantia Book - It contains the Polarization that We need to fight against the Negatives in order to "Win". Simply put - When You fight You get a defender and vice versa so this is a Polarization but what I was also told was that the way They (The Urantia Book) portrays the Heirarchy is pretty well on the Mark.

    There were also Polarizations about the Life of Yeshua as They don't call Him Yeshua but Jesus in the Book so again - There is another Problem with the Info but this can easily be said of It...

    How do We know the Adversary ? By knowing what They know and this has come through a lot of Us digesting the Information that They hold Dear or have Guarded.

    So with that said - I use the Urantia Info as It is accurate in terms of a Heirarchical description of this Universe but those seeking to go back to Source will have no need of Hierarchy right ?

    So with the Urantia Book detailing Heirarchy - It is obvious Its about Heirarchy. Now with that said - To know Their Heirarchy is not in Itself a Negative thing but to layer Oneself back into that Heirarchy - Once one knows It Exists - Is merely a repetition in Matter at another Level.

    Another Polarization is the striving of Negative against Positive in that constant Battle and that One can easily see that if We all reach Integration - We all go Home and the Duality / Polarism of the Creation will no longer be needed. So then with that understood - That Integration would see the Players cease Playing and I believe that even the Positives still want to Play if You know what I mean. What does One do when They no longer have a purpose?

    The rest of Us ? Well We're getting pretty sick of this Game right?

    82. Ah - So You have a Picture of the Avatar that Earthly Lucifer is supposed to be using ATM...

    This Man was/is being prepared as a Vessel for a Negative Walk-in (Anti-Christ) but They'll find that when It happens - Its Satan and not the Big Guy...

    83. Oyeah - A Cobra can be interesting too Bro - Just don't get too close if You get My Drift...

    84. Forgive my intrusion orthodoxymoron but I'm posting because I really feel for your apparent anguish, and can relate to it to a degree. I thought my monkey-mind was out of control, forever wanting to know the ins-and-outs of everything, the whys and wherefores etc. but the entanglement your mind has you enmeshed in seems to be huge! For what it's worth, I'd like to pass on to you what I've learned about the 'who/what/why' trap after having 'researched' it for many long years, hoping something I say might ring true to you and help. Where to start?

    OK, looking at it from the mental perspective, I've found trying to find out who is 'right' and who is 'wrong' in any situation, no matter how big the picture, doesn't really achieve anything that serves us personally in the long run (apart from increasing our awareness of course). I've learned that even murderers can 'justify' their behaviour to themselves. And there are always at least two sides to every story. Plus the path and decisions each makes in life comes out of each personality's desire for peace in life. The problem with this is that each personality or party involved only sees 'peace' from their own personal perspective and seeks to 'control' the opposers to their belief and desires to attain it, at worst killing them to do so. I believe that until we are fully enlightened beings, we can't know all the ins and outs of each battle, now or in the past. And I'm sure there's right and wrong on both sides if the full history could be seen. That's where the Law of Karma comes in, to right the wrongs and redress the balance etc etc. Beyond that, all we can really do is stand up for what we believe is 'right' at the time when 'karma'/choices comes to us personally.

    Secondly, from my own experience I'd also like to express to you that getting caught up areas of knowledge that causes you any sort of fear or anger or personal stress is probably the work of the 'dark side'. If what forums and 'spiritual knowledge' sites say is true (the ones I've studied anyway) the negative ETs promote this through their channels as they feed off this energy psychically, so they very cleverly ... in the guise of presenting 'the Truth'... promote division, fear and anger in the followers to enable this feeding frenzy. Those involved eventually end up in the 'us against them' mindset, becoming paranoid, aggressive and dictatorial in their views about what is and isn't 'Truth'. Separativeness rules, rather than peace, compassion and open-minded exchange. So not spiritual, loving and caring. But seperativeness is the nature of the analytical mind. Of course the negative ETs also do this generally because the more turmoil and disagreement in the world, the more the fearful will look for a 'saviour' and they are very willing to step in and pretend they are that, just as you've noted. The important thing is not to get trapped in the web they've set up for the seekers of Truth, becoming enmeshed in that 'us vs them' mentality and full of fear, anger and doubt. They promote this to serve their own ends.

    Lastly, I'd like to pass on to you what I've come to learn and have to remind myself of over and over again to stop falling into the mind-games and traps that we enquiring minds (and carers) can fall into.

    The first is that ENERGY FOLLOWS THOUGHT. If you think about, are intrigued by, the negative aspects of life, you are drawn to those energies to learn what you seek to know. "Ask and ye shall receive" to the max. Of course, it works that way with positive energies as well, and my guess is that a balanced mental outlook... awareness in terms of the 'big picture'... is the desired outcome.

    But there is also the emotional component and for that aspect of personality I remind myself that GOD IS LOVE. I believe that, at a personality level, who and what we love decides our path and destiny on this planet. Everything we do revolves around that ultimately, all decisions and choices we make, again looking for peace and joy in life. I personally believe that God being Love defines our karma with others in this reality as well, why we choose to come back here and end up with 'unfinished business'. But what we desire also affects our mind-set, driving the 'energy follows thought' law into action for us. But that's at the personality level of being.

    The point of this post being that the time comes when you realize that our personalities only operate within those Universal Laws to keep us tied to this planet and tied up in the games that others appear to have a stranglehold on in this reality, which really has come to appear to me to be a giant food-chain, mentally, emotionally and physically...all constantly re-cycled, even within ourselves (eg many dreams). Those with more 'power' feed on those with less. I find no joy in playing either role.

    So, in having come to these views and seeing the limitations of the personality's functioning mechanisms, I, as the personality, am ready and willing to allow the higher aspects of being to take over this vessel I inhabit so it (the higher aspect of 'me') can operate within the Laws at higher, broader levels of expression beyond this reality. So it's meditation for me, my personality focus being on love and light, which I see as the positive path in this reality.

    Hopefully I've managed to express all of this in a way that makes sense to you and that what I've learned on my path may help you in some way to get beyond a lot of the anguish you appear to be feeling.

    Namaste to you as well orthodoxymoron.

    85. Orthodoxymoron: In the portrait of Q. Elizabeath, she is holding a ball, looks like glass? What IS that?

    86. You're obviously very happy doing what you're doing and I say good luck to you. Maybe you are one of the Sacred Warriors, obviously a different path to mine. But that's as it should be as we all have our own unique path to tread.

    Today I've looked at this thread from the start and read lots of your posts and I can see more clearly now why we are on different wavelengths at some very basic levels.

    For instance, you seem to resent death and therefore anyone or anything you see as threatening to inflict this on all of us here on Earth, whether it be aliens, the PTB, or the Universe itself. I have no fear of death other than the pain I might have to go through when it comes to me. Above and beyond that I see it as a natural part of our evolution and accept that the body wears out, even though the spirit that inhabits it is eternal. I'm actually looking forward to the release from all of the body's demands...the freedom from appetites that necessitates us having to feed on other life forms to experience and maintain existence here in 3D, physically in particular. But you seem to be happy here, still enjoy experiencing the bodily appetites from what I've read, and so want to help establish a planet where you and others can do so in an harmonious and just manner without fear. Fair enough.

    I believe, rightly or wrongly, that we personalities are an extension, or creation, of our higher selves to explore and to learn the lessons of this particular 3D manifestation. Maybe curiosity caused us to stay too long, enmeshing ourselves too deeply in the lower energies or maybe we were tricked into being stuck here by the neg ETs as some say to become their food source from the beginning. I don't know. All I do know is that as long as I remain attached to the animal urges that this body entains...the satisfaction of any of its lusts for union, be they mental (eg questions being answered), emotional (eg personal love) or physical (eg sex and food) I will be tied to this reality. The one I'm still struggling with, obviously, is the mental one haha.

    But on that, I also believe that the Higher Self has all those answers. It Knows. There's no need to be continually seeking for answers when one is once more united with the Higher Self and that just seems so peaceful to me, and a much more useful and responsible manifestation in this or any other reality than little me can provide on my own. I would love to be able to be that and offer that for others...all lifeforms, especially when, as I say, I have no personal interest in playing the competetive games that the 3D reality seems to thrive on. Although I am interested to see and understand how it's all being played out here and do wish to help in whatever way I can. But that's become "Not my will but Thine be done" to really be able to help.

    But that's me. You carry on you Warrior you. I truly hope you achieve your goals.

    87. I was reading John Milton today, from "Paradise Lost" Book One, and you came to mind.

    "Of Man's first disobedience, and the fruit
    Of that forbidden tree, whose mortal taste
    Brought death into the world, and all our woe,
    with loss of Eden, till one greater Man
    Restore us, and regain the blissful seat,
    Sing, heavenly music, that on the secret top
    Of Oreb, or of Sinai, didst Inspire
    That shepherd who first taught the chosen seed,
    In the beginning how the heavens and earth
    Rose out of chaos : or, if Sion hill
    Belight thee more, and ......"

    88. Hmm, However, as things become more visible, they can be cleared once and for all. I am still an optimist.
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    89. Aaah, you work so hard Orthodoxymoron! God bless you.

    90. Very blatant symbolism Ortho! wow.

    91. It really saddens me to read this orthodoxymoron, especially that you hate yourself. Please don't. I see you as a good man, working your butt off to help this planet and everyone on it, and I'm sure many here appreciate what you're trying to do and see this thread in the same way. Maybe no-one here debates you because you are 'preaching to the converted' at the Mists and I believe (although I don't presume to speak for everyone) that we all have our own version of your constitution in our hearts and minds anyway, agreeing with your intent. So why would we debate you?

    Again I send you I love you Flowers and Hugs

    92. Dear,Dear, Oxy, we love you and greatful for your enourmous effort with your post which asks all the questions we avoid ( I speak for myself now).But Oxy, who are you, that shares so much of your mind with us here. what is it, you're really trying to tell us? Or ask of us.I think your ideas of how the universe and mother earth should work are absolutely wonderful, but have a little faith and you will see what amazing things will happen. There is a Creator who is greater than all and all will be revealed in good time. There is a peace coming to the whole universe after much upheaval and it is up to our conciousness to create the reality of what we want our future to be.

    I can't believe you hate yourself Oxy because to do so would be hating us, afterall we are all one with the Father and you know that!

    The ones who you are directing this post to are not going to challenge you
    nor even respond, as they know your words are justified and they are afraid of you and people like you who have compassion,empathy,consideration,thoughtfulness,humaneness,and love. So don't be afraid just love and be a peace with yourself.

    Peace and love

    93. Dear ODM, believe me when I tell you that I know what it's like to be obsessed with an ideal/dream that no-one else seems to want to listen to. I've been there myself and it can be a heart-breaking place to be...very lonely. Although I also learned 'down the track' that I did touch people that I hadn't been aware of consciously. Maybe those few were all that were meant. I don't kid myself that I'm evolved enough to know the answers to such things.

    But I myself had to accept in the end that 'the world' wasn't interested in my dream and that that was OK. I also discovered that when we are acting from our hearts we are never alone, even if outward appearances would have us believe we are, as They are with us and open new doors for us when the old ones close. There are myriad ways in which we can do our bit to help.

    Please don't misunderstand me telling you this. I'm not saying that letting go is what you should do. That's not my call, only your's and Those you work with. I just wanted you to know that I understand some of what you're going through and care.

    Edit: I just caught this---

    The ones who you are directing this post to are not going to challenge you
    nor even respond, as they know your words are justified and they are afraid of you and people like you who have compassion,empathy,consideration,thoughtfulness,humaneness,and love. So don't be afraid just love and be a peace with yourself.

    Beautifully said Firefly.

    94. Yep, I'm well aware of all you said and that you see it as 'not just about you'. But I see no harm in letting individuals involved in the battle know that they're cared for and not alone.

    Peace brother. I'll leave you be.

    95. I understand Oxy where your coming from, I too have had experiences with UFO's,abductions, demonic entities,and a woman who wanted to cling to this dimension and I have had years of torment and anguish, because I discovered back in l976 that there was a group setting the world up for enslavement.(NWO/Illuminati)I found the only way to beat them was to become more spiritually enlightened and that's what I'm working on and that's been my 'saving grace'. Maybe that is a selfish way to be? But somehow I feel if we all tune into the Divine Christ Conciousness we will overcome the negative impulses of this world. Father will hear our prays and intervene on our behalf.

    Peace and Love

    96. Well, I don't know about that - You are good at asking questions Bro...

    97. How do You know that an Archangel hasn't already responded?

    98. As We are Angelics in Matter - Some of the Archangelics - Not presently known in Classical Literature or even Esoterica as such but nonetheless Archangelics - Have taken on the Flesh as well to assist at this Juncture in Human History...

    Its the Big Party Holmes and Everyones Invited - Including Archangelics...

    That said - I'd definately say They're Posting on the Net and making Their presence known...

    99. Some of Them I can answer - Some not - yet...



    Well - Typically - Archangels are Commanders or responsible for a Host of Angelics. That Host usually numbers in the Trillions - 7 Trillion per Host approx. and so as in the Ascendancy (Those moving back to Source) - The Descendancy (Those moving away from Source) is also allowed to interact in Matter if They wish to progress in terms of Soul growth.

    As far as how many are where and what are Their composition - That varies but I would say that each Constellation has a Host and that Host has Archangelics in direction of that Host...

    As an anology - They are the Sergeants, Lieutenants and Generals Who direct the Angelic Host as needed...

    All of the Fallen Ones can take on Draconian / Serpentine Form and have down through time but the CC Angelics have no need of creating Fear in others so They abstain from that per se...

    100. hi oxy ,
    hope you will excuse the short version of our name you know typing is not my best Iam not evenplay piano.
    anyway long time Ididn´t post you know sometimes Iam busy.
    wow you put a nice collection of organ music together ...
    I want to tell you what gives me hope even politically.in my home state witchis in the south of Germany for the first time the party of the green is the winner . since the beginning in 52 there was allways CDU the conservative
    wing on power. since sundayelection the green party is the winner people don`t want nuclear power people want parks
    forests and a clean enviroment now we see after this apocaliptical nuclear disaster how fragil our beloved earth is we all humanity have to protect our planet we have to start immediatly if we not done before.

    101. How can too much of a good thing be undesirable or better yet - As long as One has enough to sustain Oneself - It should satisfy Them right ?

    Prime Creator is Spirit - That Spirit has Souls in Fragmentation which are Us in all Forms - Angelic - Demonic - Mortal - Morontial - Midwayer - Power and Principality and these Forms are all Spirit having a Soul having an Avatar...

    Now - As Spirit is Eternal and Infinite - Those Souls are also such unless They choose Annihilation along the way and go back to the Even Pool as pure Potential once again. Exclusive of that - They're Infinite and Eternal as well.

    Metatron is the Commander of the Archangelics for this Super-Universe (There are Seven moving around a Centrally perfect Creation called Havona). Knowing this - There would then be 7 Prime Archangelics over the course of this Prime Creation Level - Or - Over the course of the 7 Super-universes...

    -//-

    As Void (0) Begat Singularity (1) - Singularity (1) Begat Duality (2). Duality (2) then begat Trinity (3) which in turn begat Quantum Understanding (4).

    -//-

    It was at this Level of Creation that the First Angelic was individuated - That being Metatron here in this Super-universe - And others in the other 6 Creations...

    Metatron was the Construct or Perfect Ideal that the other Archangelics and Angelics in this Super-universe were patterned after. Metatron is not God per se but is the Highest Ranking Angelic under the Most Ancient of Days (A Power) - Which is just below the 7th Master Spirit in Co-ordinate Representation for this Super-universe...

    We have no Original Sin. This is an Obfuscation of the Fallen. This Fall is Their Fall from Grace not Ours. We and other Species are caught up in It though due to the fact that as It occured - A Quarantine came down over this Local System and We got caught up in It being under Their Guidance and Tutelage...

    Of Course the Fallen would Blame Us or anyone else but Themselves though - Wouldn't They ?

    There is an Outbreath and Inbreath of God. When It is the Outbreath - The Creation is Expanding and when there is the Inbreath - All are coming Home in retraction. When Prime Creator's Fragments are all back in the totality of Prime Creator - This Creation will cease and a New One will take It's place with what was learned previously...

    Yes My Friend - You indeed are getting It. This is not the last Universe and It is not the First by a long shot.

    No - Not all Reptilians are Evil or Negative and I would offer this in further reply. The Draconians as Exiles and a few other Renegade Groups are Negative but no Group is ever meant to be representative of the whole Species and the Reptilians are no exception to this.

    Simply put - It is indeed a Grand Game Brother. Putting into practise in Matter - What was Theory in Spirit. It is a Theatre and We - All of Us in myriad ways - Are the Actors and Portrayers in It...

    102. There are many that feel similarly My Brother...

    That said - We now work to Change this and will have nothing but Change for the effort...

    103. I as well as others here have told You that this Thread is watched heavily and while not a lot of comments are made - You will have to understand why this is...

    I mean after having 9120 Views on this Topic - You must surely understand that You are indeed being read.

    The reason why there are not a lot of comments from others Oxy is that You ask questions that many others haven't even begun to contemplate. Now - Not that They shouldn't be contemplating these Issues or the questions You raise but rather - Most others need to catch up to Your own Investigations and Conclusions on these Issues...

    So I would say this - While I and others have answered some of Your questions or at least attempted to - The reason why I - And likely those others - Have refrained from answering some of them is that One needs to come to the "knowing" of the Issue from Their own perspective as the Path is different for each of Us. In this You are no different from the rest of Us and so in relation to some of the questions You've asked - While answers can be given - The exhaustive analysis You display about these Issues is in some ways Cathartic for others as It prompts Them to think of the Answer for Themselves in relation to Their own Path(s). To digg for the Answer as We have...

    Simply put - I see this Thread as an exercise in "What The Heck is going on and Why". So with that said - For You to be asking the questions You do, and have - Forces others to think of the Issues We all face and this is an appropriate response...

    Also - As One asks and invokes the Law of Allowance by asking the questions (In essence saying to others - If You have the answer - Assist Me in My understanding) - This allows others to display Their "Knowing" fulfilling Their contract to Serve in this Lifetime. Others must be allowed to Serve and so in some instances this is My Thrust. That being - Will others be Invoked and if so - Will They answer ?

    That said - @ 9120'ish Views and counting - This Thread will only Die when You've allowed It too and if You don't - It won't...

    My advice is - Keep on Keepin' on Brother. The Answers will come...

    104. You are wrong Brother and I do not like being the One to tell You that but It must be said nonetheless...

    Where are You wrong ? Let Me tell You please...

    I will speak for no one else but Myself in this but what I will say is the following...

    You have brought up many Questions that Humans on Earth need to come to terms with one way or the other.

    I Myself - Have two Videos that I am finishing off this Weekend that I've been making especially so I can dialogue with You and others in this Thread, through those Videos, once I've completed Them.

    What are these Videos about One may ask ? Well I'll tell You...

    Number 1 is about Co-ordinate Representation and how it relates to the Questions You've been hammering away at here in this Thread and ;

    Number 2 is about how Lucifer chose Annihilation in 1998 - And how in His stead - Satan is now co-ordinating the Fallen...

    So again - How are You wrong ?

    You are wrong when You say that NO ONE is paying attention to what You have written or inquired about. I have and so have others. I then ask You this - Are We - Those Who have replied to You - NO ONE ?

    Please understand Oxy - When We say to Creator - "Show Us" - It will be shown but the timing is not something that We can dictate about It. What I've come to understand about this Invocation of Creator is that if what is asked for doesn't come to Us right away - Its because We as the Askers of the Question / Seekers of the Answer - Need to be uplifted in Knowledge from other Areas before We will be able to understand the Answer given that We are Seeking.

    With that said - The Questions You've asked are Ones that I hoped someone would ask and in that stead - Creator provided Us with You...

    Now - Should I complete the Videos as I wish to Answer what You've asked for or should I refrain ? Simply put - You're the Chooser Brother...

    You always have been...

    105. I think why god does not show up because he is hear. We are the gods and cant be told to do nothing we don't agree to. unless you do agree then you give it away then they got you. This also why they suppress us with negativity so much.

    Far as manifesting. Few days agoe wile waking up saying buy the power of the first divine within me shield the earth. So now i do it every day added no negative forces can enter anymore...And add Dragons to Gard earth and tear anything negative apart for fun of it .

    I now support the USA in all its flaws and shield it..IT may not be perfect but sounds allot less messed up then the world outside the world.
    This is great mind bending....But well worth it and more comes as you play..

    106. I'll answer your question regarding your list. The only thing I have a problem with, is a Vatican-based Namaste...

    I understand that the Vatican is also a geographical location. But, really? After what we know of the history? Why not start fresh with no pomp and circumstance? With no hoarding of gold and other wealth? I'm not saying take down the Vatican, but proceed with caution. It's the ones who are in the buildings, not the buildings themselves which are at the center of the strangest spiritual devolution I could have ever imagined. WWJD? He'd give the buildings to the people. He'd give the gold hoards to the people. And he would remove the darkness that still abides in those grand places. Just some musings on Easter morning.

    107. Another thing. I'm gonna bun you unless you consider an alternative to your Lucifer theory. Lucifer is not a beautiful woman demon. I mean, come on. It's not woman, the life giver, who is the destroyer. It is the male still in pathological mode. All we have to do is read the news. Is it not obvious that demonizing the female life giver is the biggest lie of all? Get your head out of the woman hating roman line of thinking and start honoring the real beauty, the creative force in this world. It's called life. It's the destroyers who are twisting your head around. It's not the life givers who are evil. It's the life destroyers. How simple is that?

    108. Actually - I do agree with You Linda but in a different way than what You and likely Oxy would think...

    At the Expressional Level of Satan and Lucifer (Upper 4D) as well as the rest of the Demonic / Angelic Realms - Gender is scalable and all Beings are technically Hermaphrodites in their Native, Un-Illusioned Form.

    That said - They can be many things to many Beings and can represent whatever They wish to portray as an Avatar but I will agree with You on this Linda ;

    Neither Satan nor Lucifer have portrayed Themselves to Me as Females - Only Males. Other Fallen have come across as Female Avatars though...

    That said - Perhaps Lucifer and Satan HAVE revealed Themselves to ODM as Females but with that said - I also find It hard to see that the chosen Native Avatar of either Being (Satan or Lucifer) with Their destructive tendencies would ever portray a Female slant to Their true un-Illusioned Being...

    109. I really think that your 9.5 theses is a great work of the mind and heart. Your GUIDESTONE is great. I've seen the original Georgia guidestones and I think you should ask the farmer if you can put one up, too, hee hee.

    Here's for anybody following as orthodoxymoron's posts are voluminous:

    110. I so so agree with the idea of letting go of the crucified bloody specter. My daughter had never seen a catholic crucifix before she was 12 or so. We walked into a hispanic church school and the body on the cross was at least three times life sized, with blood dripping, and the body was almost naked. My daughter almost fainted and she said it was porn. Then, she said, why do these women want to trust men who wear dresses? Twelve she was.

    111. But shouldn't a truly free responsible system of global governance, exclude religious favoritism? I'm more of a fan of "The Earth Confederation" or something like that, without any religious connotations. A system of governance where everyone has access to free energy, photographic memory, all of their abilities, the very finest in alternative medicine, and complete respect for free-will. I don't like the word federation, and prefer confederation, because confederation respects free-will more imho. If we were still a confederation, we could just be like "Hey Illuminati we are sick of you guys printing up a gazillion dollars, the stupid wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, we are leaving the union, switching to gold and silver, joining the Agartha Network, and switching to free energy. Peace out!" Not a big fan of the Vatican myself though, even the good guys in the Vatican, cause they are like "You are going to hell if you don't believe as I do" and I know that to not be true. Hehehe I dunno about the pet crocodiles though man, maybe it's possible, because maybe those crocodiles really can feel love. I'm not sure.

    112. A confederation is an association of sovereign member states that, by treaty, have delegated certain of their competences (or powers) to common institutions, in order to coordinate their policies in a number of areas, without constituting a new state on top of the member states. Under international law a confederation respects the sovereignty of its members and its constituting treaty can only be changed by unanimous agreement.

    By definition the difference between a confederation and a federation is that the many memberships of the member states in a confederation are voluntary, while the membership in a federation is not.[A confederation is most likely to feature these differences over a federation:

    * (1) No real direct powers: many confederal decisions are externalised by member-state legislation.
    * (2) Decisions on day-to-day matters are not taken by simple majority but by special majorities or even by consensus or unanimity (veto for every member).
    * (3) Changes of the constitution, usually a treaty, require unanimity.

    113. I personally reading watching a Jesus movie he was talking about this energy stuff in tongues and is important. All things in this world are all part of a puzzle.

    http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Explosive-Ancient-Mystery-Religions/dp/1571746072
    this book I been reading right now.

    They are all teachers even the bad.
    Forgive it all and let it go in peace and send it love .

    114. You are most likely sane, my dearest orthodoxymoron. That you have reached the same conclusions as many other questioners, is the clue. Whether or not you have an accurate idea or one that is pure fantasy will be in question for a while longer. I don't wanna see those creatures, do you? The fact that you question what is going on is not insanity, because nobody really knows, do they? I'm certain that you worry about it a lot, though. I personally think about it, then put it away for a while because there is no way to find out by going over and over it. Whatever comes our way will come our way and I personally don't think I can affect it one way or the other...

    115. Well said, I like LSMR. Is that your term?

    116. In my short but sweet gigs with as a dramaturge (script researcher) I could have used some of your information. Both projects were about war. Ah, yes, dramatic conflict. It can become so very complicated. Have you considered writing fiction? My gods, you just need a good plot, right?

    117. Oxy. Your contributions are gargantuan man. I use wiki sometimes but its not reliable. You cant beat a good old dusty book though some authors are state sponsered for sure. There are a few good am vids but these days the net is so infiltrated one has to be discerning.

    Any way. Here is one you may like. How this fits in with the order of things God knows. Rock on Tommy

    118. orthodoxy, here are some interesting photos from quito, equador. My friend's brother moved there a few years ago.

    This procession is interesting...look at the hooded purple robes:

    http://livewellecuador.com/Easter.aspx

    119. The upgrade is upgrading the DNA one step at a time. they created us with junk DNA that takes our power away. so all you have is a mortal us. Jesus is a DNA of the higher end. level 10 let's say a brother and a teacher.
    Google dna being upgraded you will find it is and now on knows how or why. We know lest i do and so do you.
    now to prove that look up and watch everything what's in the 5th dimension??? yes you got it manifesting!!! yes making wine bread we get a huge upgrade going their!! its why this evil system is trying to hold us down. then we all know it was a huge shame.
    Most everyone has a problem with confronting we are a god equal everyone goes into fear mode. As i say this my hart chakra screaming at me yes.
    Ok then i have real dreams feeling energy the creator showing me trick how to. what i was shown does help to mind you.
    think the energy is still not real ok 2 videos. I have a chi spinner i can move it really good. how's it move??? you can even make one to. and no its not evil energy . that another sham to suppress us. Every Sol is good/evil male/female no exceptions. what you do is what make it evil.
    Sort of like guns don't kill people do. this is why we might be in training but this one earth is over board . that s why some come to help.
    I can go on I have few things in my past as a 3year old i always s tried to do and dint understand why i could not.

    the problem with all the bad is the light lets it happen. so it's up to us. Everything has a sol far as i understand it. even trees earth animals everything .Google it once.

    As you may read or listen it like this. i take it put it in a soup can. Now read everything from every one.
    Ok listen what your hart chakra tells you when you read something pauses and listen feel it . if its off side it maybe a off center then sometime i ask it to go center before i ask.
    thoughts = manifestation....
    If you have a feeling the matrix is after you ??? Now hear be car full you know you can manifest crap to come after yourself. No kidding ether I did to don't feel bad, send light after it forgive let it go as a teacher.
    Or wile I meditate I imagine like in star track the colorful gas could is what everything there is looks like.
    I sit in darkness above it as creator of it. if it comes after me. there I feel at peace outside of all there is. there is one thing I see their!!!
    A pink gas cloud I call hear the mother female friend of the creator. And the First divine is the son. How I go that?? umm good question not sure just felt right .

    I go after it only not to but as it bonuses off and me and hits it back causing the sender damage . like the mirror shield it reflects stuff sent to you.
    Reminds me like God he don't kill but sends others to do the work umm as it seems but the god that made this I feel is Lucifer but i manifesting him not to be real. Why?? even if he is If I am creator in my reality then i can un make something to. leaving it powerless .
    All the bad crap and Gods remind me of bullies picking on the little guys .. Yes we are the little guys that are getting picked on. Some said we was made with junk DNA to mine crap for a past civilization who we started.
    Now for every one going right I'm nuts well last night dream showed me something important that i see working out better . if i was dead wrong would they showed me what i saw last night?? Nope

    This is real this is what made me get started!! Once you feel it LOL Its like taking the red pill. Please all try it once every one!!!! Humor me :)

    Now remember some post about how the hand are positioned??

    120. Now according to that book. and your post. Why are they all linked together?? the book I am reading says a few things many of that line can do magic?? why is that lol Good DNA and they have the 5th dimension Vibration.
    Yes so they can manifest themselves rich huge secret.

    Dolores cannon mentioned some come to help have hard time getting hear to find parents that can handle the higher vibration for birth.

    Welcome to the Wizard Of Ozz and world of warcraft but we are in the game. lol

    Back to living in the now and enjoying life.Manifesting a buzz wish me luck.

    121. I never felt so dang insulted !!!!!

    For all I know - a demonic spirit named 'Chi'. Chi is energy you moron!!!! Its not a person or any entity!!!!

    I now understand why Jesus decided to do the Shepperd thing . Because to many are to stuck in sheep mode .help help me help me. i have to leave this is to restarted.
    every thing is evil you make stain proud. I take my leave of this forum your not worthy of my info.

    really grow up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    sheep sheep. everything is evil you will be hear for ever thinking that way.

    I do forgive you you do not know what you do...... Jesus said that I now understand.

    122. From where I sit you called chi demonic is the same as calling me demonic. I try to walk the center so I can be both nice or not. I chose to be nice the demonic is a button i like to take out. Not worthy???
    Or call chi the light of god.

    Yes we all are Worthy that's the problem. We had our DNA altered to make us as we are. Put negative influences and the self little doubting voice call Ego. We are Worthy we all are we been lied to born into bondage as you can find a all over . watch lots of stuff you will find the same thing.
    No the truth is coming and it be end of 2012 or before.

    Unless the creator is powerless to taker the negative out or he is leaving it Hear. Its one other the other.

    123. I don't believe in kings or queens. I think they are evil to say one is more powerful just because of a blood line. But really our sol is pure pure energy what ever it is that's what it is. the physical body is an illusion and this world.

    The thought this world is obsessed with the fiscal body. it keeps popping in there like its not real if nothing its real then that puts us like a starseed that came to help. go to the link So many of them talk the same its just not one meaning something is terribly wrong. I think most all you posted is pointing out all that is linked to the half truths.

    I believe this time In the now their is some bug guns in this world the creator sent hear to change this.I think believing in sin is an illusion all together. because if we are only pure energy and everything is manifested all this is put hear the veil to make us forget who we are to trap us . TO make us not feel worthy.
    Was watching a video and it mentioned atlantions was hear in the beginning their ship was shot down so they got stranded and built the pyramids to raise the vibration to get off. Dolores mentioned this and also a few others it mentioned more then once. so the listing to it its a common theme. All the big giants are nothing more then other civilizations tried to help and shot down to.
    Now hears the test. listen and read this whats your hart chakra say????? I get this often every time is why i belie it true. mine feels like sadden and if I think its time to set it right it fires right up.

    Debating if government is actually doing the right thing.. You mentioned it to about might be in trouble. Ok what if their is a rule the creator has so they cant come hear?? if we suppress us for the reason if we are not advanced then no one would mess with us.
    But what if that's what area 51 is about. keep the believe that's the story. Now I 100% sure we can manifest i done it to some degree a few time thoughts and such. If they tell us the worst case and we believe it we can actually make it worse. Like the radiation. If we believe its not hear we could actually make it go away.
    If we are human nothing more believe in how things are now then yes you may be right that we are in trouble.

    Now listen to the hart chakra and read this whats it do listen feel it ???? What if the option #3 is at play hear. God/creator the first of what ever you call him/her can and could and I think has done something. Jesus said it we can do greater things then he. and listening within I bet if we are as he said. In gods Image yes energetically look alike all sols energy bodies .the only hing different is the Body the shell the avatar body. Now you been doing it I been doing it every thing fits together all of it. I hitting the energy side and every thing attached. You traced a lot of info pointing to a one blood line keeping truth hidden.

    I said it before. god has not helped us or has but not in the way we all like. Because once we get out of sheep mode and know what we actually are we can turn thing thing around on it head very fast.If the creator wanted to test us had leave us hear say tough love so if we get it then and only then we are worthy get get his gift to be just like him. We are created as is for a reason.
    If they wanted a race to be all the same and think all one way would they not have created robots to think all the same to do manual labor??? Or evil has enslaved us or tried to get back at the creator because they are just that evil.

    http://www.starseeds.net/

    http://www.starseeds.net/forum/topics/the-girl-who-says-all?id=2312030%3ATopic%3A720752&page=2#comments

    http://www.starseeds.net/forum/topics/helpful-convo-between-me-and

    124. http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Explosive-Ancient-Mystery-Religions/dp/1571746072

    hear is apart of the book i found important
    Hear is something I also like to share I found today… timing is everything…

    You commit grievous sin dividing it into spirits of evil and the spirit of Good, for there is no God save that of good, who, like the father of family, does only god to his children, forgiving all their fault if they repent of them. The spirit of Evil dwells on earth, in the hearts of men who turn the children of god from the the right path….Your doctrine is therefore the fruit of your errors, for in desiring to approach the god of truth, you have created false gods.30
    Salvation thus lay at the end of another path-the “middle way “taught by Jesus, Buddha. Lao Tzu, and other solar lords. This is the path of balance fundamental to the ancient mysteries.

    Jesus: The Explosive Story of the 30 Lost Years and the Ancient Mystery Religions

    125. Do You know what Co-ordinate Representation is and if so could You explain Your take on what It is ? IE - Define It in Your own Words...

    The time has come for You and I to go forward on this Thread of Yours Brother. If You decide to indulge the request - This will occur...

    126. As I have said before - They teach Us the Outer Doctrine - The Fable - And for Those that are Initiates - They're taught the Inner Doctrine - The Truth...

    Let Me give an example of this and It will shake Fundamentalist Beliefs but it must be done as the time is ripe for the Truth.

    The Outer Doctrine Trinity = Father - Son - Holy Spirit.

    The Inner Doctrine Trinity = Father - Mother - Only Begotten Son and Daughter.

    The Unholy Trinity = Lucifer - Jahbulon - Mehabone...

    P.S. Information on Co-ordinate Representation to follow (Nope I haven't forgotten about It but doing this from Work - Where I am currently at - Is difficult at the moment due to Me being busy)...

    No worries - I'm on It though...

    127. Oxy..is there a possibilty you could be a little more succicnt by any chance? Then again if you did that it wouldnt be you would it so perhaps its better if you just carry on without giving a hoot what people think.

    128. Well. How about stating the 5 priciples of the Namaste Solar System Constitution one by one, or more if there are more of them. Why should you have to emulate anyone Oxy? What are the hopes and pitfalls for this planet and its myriad creatures?

    What do you feel are the most vital things humanity should be dealing with at this time? What should we change? What should we aspire to do with our lives? Can this make a difference?

    129. Mate, this is probably a good thing..its possible many ideas come into consciousness indirectly without having to be scholarly or inductive or deductive. It may be that the best ideas arrive in a human beings brain in this manner. They just happen! I think it could be the case some of the best ideas or inspiriations that come through to one's brain transcend the normal channels. Thats probably why the mass media is used to desensitize us from this original authentic experience of knowing things intuitively. In which case they can kiss my arse.

    130. Thanks Oxy
    I will take a look at these and get back to you. I certainly agree with your very last two points already. Of course the energy would have to originate from 'free resources'.

    Birth Control to a sustainable level on surface. How would you envisage to carry out a model to deal with this. Reincarnate leading members of the SS?

    Im fascinated by your focus on the focus that the US Constituition should be a model. Especially that the US is now a major catastrophe waiting to happen.

    ps..i posted a nice live vesion of lay over on the music thread

    131. Oxy..im a bit of a sad transport buff so like your last point.
    I strongly suggest you read Angels of the cosmos by Masao Murata. Its little known in the west but he goes into the details of the transportation systems of some of the planets in our solar system. You will love it.
    http://www.byakkopress.ne.jp/1/en/4892141518/4892141518.html
    only $15.. a good read mate.

    132. Hi Oxy
    Why is America such a mess?
    It lives by its constitution. It has failed and is many ways no better than the systems it maligns.
    I would not like to live in a namaste constition based on such a decree that could, and indeed has done, gone awry in in almost every way you can possibly imagine. Can you think of something better mate? Im sure you can.

    Shall we not write a new constition? Above and beyond what the powers that be have ordained. A Novel guidline that is almost anarchistic insomuch that it is the sum total of the minds of those who wish to live in a free world not be stymied by those who know best? Yet that it retains a semblance of order. Something we can write ourselves via our consciousness that over-rides the stale and increasingly meaningless word of the mason and the politician or the priest.

    Waddaya say..lets throw the rule book out?

    133. Thanks very much oxy.. I think of all us on this forum should get involved in this. many questions that need many answers. Im going to have a cider and will mull over this over the next few days as these things take time. Meanwhile..I will leave you with a bit of KinG Crimson over on the music thread
    Cheers

    134. Thanks Oxy lad/
    I will take a look
    There s a lot of stuff you have there fella. I think a lot of it doesnt come up to scratch

    this is ok though

    135. Oxy, I do not like hearing you are distressed and miserable. I look at the changes this world needs, and realize that I am only one person, and can only control my own house and garden. Do you have access to nature daily? Do you have a garden or animals to care for? It gives one perspective and hope to have a garden and animals to care for. Wherever you live, that is where you will derive true power, the earth is your friend and if you only connect on a computer, you will not be happy. I want to hear that you have walked on the earth in your bare feet for a while. The answers are there.

    136. There's the rub: you are too clever for your own good.

    137. "the size of any man/or woman or even a child,
    is the size of the thing, it takes, to get their goat
    -- always remember,
    do NOT ever surrender your goat."
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:16 pm

    All good and bad things must come to an end. Recent events, my review of this thread, and the responding comments, lead me to the inescapable conclusion that this thread must end. "End the Thread!!" I need to stop brainstorming, stop speculating, stop whining, stop trying to be funny, stop ranting, stop raving, stop being so sensitive, stop being so superficial, stop poking, stop prodding, stop being narcissistic, and stop doing what I'm doing. I might reemerge, and I might not. I have a lot of growing-up to do before I resume posting, and when I complete the work which I think is necessary, I probably won't be posting on the internet. I feel very sad about a helluva lot of things. I think I might become a lot more cold and calculating, and a lot more capable of handling large amounts of upsetting information, without emotion. But who knows what's going to happen? All I know is that I need to make a tangential change. I've been sleep-posting, but I woke-up today, and it was quite the rude awakening. I feel very sheepish and embarrassed. People have stopped talking to me, one by one, and I can see why. This test is now officially over. The data analysis and extreme makeover now begin. I see clearly what I need to do, and I can't keep posting, and perform the necessary internal work.

    Thank-you once more for your patience, support, and comments. A special thank-you to Carol and Mercuriel, but there are many others. Thank-you all! I continue to worry that I have gotten it seriously wrong, and been too easy or too tough or too sarcastic or too insensitive or too rude or too crude or too timid or too bold or too anal or too radical or too traditional or too socially unacceptable. I am truly sorry for any harm I might've caused, and I am very willing to make changes and retractions as needed. I still don't know who or what I have encountered. I still agree with Raven, that I am a completely ignorant fool, but I think the nature of my thinking, combined with a very real spiritual war, makes me appear to be less intelligent than I really am. I'm probably more of a burned-out fool than anything. When one is intellectually, spiritually, and emotionally burned-out - as well as being profoundly disillusioned - it's hard to be sharp. Life is hard. Especially when you're a completely ignorant zombie. My life is very hard. But I won't stop thinking about Ancient Egypt, the Queen of Heaven, the God of This World, the Monarchy, the Papacy, and the Nazi Party. Please keep posting, but I'm going to keep quiet for a while. What do you think about the 'Holy Tablets'? http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2867-the-holy-tablets The winged-serpents of Rome and Egypt remind me of the serpent in the Garden of Eden. It seems that we might have reptilian-roots, and that we might've opened a heretical mammalian-reptilian humanoid branch-office here on Planet Earth, and that this has caused alarm throughout the reptilian universal church. What if the chain of command is as follows? (I still don't really know!)

    1. Draconian Reptilian Queen of Heaven.
    2. Hybrid Hermaphrodite God of This World. (who manifests as male, female, black, white, ?????)
    3. Hybrid Elites.
    4. Human Elites.
    5. Human Front-Men and Errand-Boys. (Patriarchy)
    6. The Rest of Us.

    Regardless of Who Rules, and regardless of Past and Present Star Wars, I desire a Perfected Humanity Living in a Perfected Solar System - Without War and Slavery. Earth seems to be a Prison Planet in Rebellion, with Exploitive and Abusive Prison Management. Some of this might be deserved. We might've brought a lot of this madness upon ourselves, but it seems that we have been taken advantage-of, just the same. If the governance modality changes for the better, I worry that we might blow-it, and end up in worse shape than before. This whole situation seems to be very unstable and precarious. I merely seek more idealistic political and religious modalities for managing the insanity. My best answer, so far, is a Theocratically Implemented United States of the Solar System - Centered in Responsibility. Obviously, we are in deep do-do, and all of the options are probably bad, at this point. I'm thinking a lot about Egypt and Reptilians, but I really need to let the sand settle before I proceed. I'll keep reading, while I mostly keep silent. BTW - I still don't have an enemies-list, but I'm working on one. I continue to worry, day and night, about my potential reincarnational role in this madness known as Life on Earth. I am so very sad that I was, and am, so much less than the best of humanity. I hope you all find who, and what, you are looking for. I shall return. Yes, I shall return. But until then, continue with your beliefs, and I shall continue with mine, and prove to me that I am not mistaken. Solar System Without End - orthodoxymoron.


    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ffu38PcLqA
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    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDbXeOvGIgE
    4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5685vhoOx8&feature=related
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    6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji1xPQX9dAY&NR=1&feature=fvwp
    7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w-A54h_GQ8&feature=related
    8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjnht1k8M7w
    9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C8lG9L4XDk&feature=related
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    geek BEWARE OF THE COMPLETELY IGNORANT PIOUS-ZOMBIE geek
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    "THIS IS SAD" "IT MIGHT'VE BEEN" "GERONIMO"

    I just received another love-letter from the Internal Revenue Service. INTERNAL REVENUE??? DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH REVENUE FOR THE UNDERGROUND BASES WHICH ARE NOT UNDER THE DIRECT AND COMPLETE CONTROL OF HUMAN BEINGS WHO ARE PART OF THE LEGITIMATE AND VISIBLE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR TAX MONEY GOES TO GIZEH INTELLIGENCE? I WANT ANSWERS - AND I WANT THEM NOW. REPEAL THE 16TH AMENDMENT - IF IT WAS EVER PROPERLY RATIFIED. ABOLISH THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE - AND INSTITUTE A 5% NATIONAL FEDERAL CONSUMPTION TAX - WITH POINT OF SALE COLLECTION. NO MORE TAX FORMS. IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY ILLEGALITY - WE THE PEOPLE SHOULD EXPECT FULL TAX REFUNDS - WITH PENALTIES AND INTEREST - ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1913. YOU PEOPLE WHO HAVE KNOWN WHAT HAS REALLY BEEN GOING ON REGARDING THE INFILTRATION AND SUBVERSION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA - WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED. THE TIDE IS TURNING. DON'T GET CAUGHT ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THIS THING.

    JUST FOR REVIEW. 'America - Freedom to Fascism' is probably a good place to begin. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173# 'The Money Masters' is probably a good second video to view. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936# 'Behold a Pale Horse' should probably be included. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2414574348304077734#docid=-7367255331569182231

    You guys and gals have collected a helluva lot of drug-money, blood-money, insider-trading money, tax-money, tithe-money, etc. for corrupt and destructive activities which are hostile to responsible-freedom and the human-race. We don't owe you. You owe us. The judgment is set, and the books are open. The recording angels haven't missed a thing. Be afraid. Be very afraid. Don't think I don't know how much I'm owed. My intention is to use most everything for charitable purposes. That 600 sq. ft. studio apt. will be just fine. We need to talk. Soon. Game Over.

    I have tried to be idealistic and open-minded, but I have seen no evidence of a change for the better. This thing doesn't seem to be over at all. I grew-up with an eschatological worldview, but I'm not seeing a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm seeing nothing but trouble in our future. I really wish to be happy, but I don't expect to ever be happy. Today, I was reading about the atrocities committed during the Second World War, and so many people were involved. It wasn't isolated at all. It could all happen again, and I expect that it will, only with uber-high technology, and the utmost sophistication. But I will stand for the right, though the heavens fall. I am prepared to die before my time, and I expect that I will. I've created too many problems and burned too many bridges.

    It seems that the good, the bad, and the ugly, are deeply involved in deception and dishonesty. No one (or not very many) are really and truly "good". A while back, someone told me that no one was really good, and I thought about it, on a deep level, and realized that they were right in many ways. Godlike or Angelic Righteousness seems to be very, very rare. I don't think the Substitutionary Atonement is the answer. We really do have to just simply be Good. Religious services are a discipline which can help us to be better people, but eating the bread and drinking the wine doesn't get us off the hook. We still have to be Good, as inconvenient and unpleasant as that might be. Bartleby and Loki were onto something, but I obviously disagreed with their methodology. They needed to be Good too! Why is it so goddamn hard to be Good? Why is it so goddamn bad to say 'goddamn'? Does God really give a damn if we say 'goddamn' occasionally and discreetly? I think not. I mean no disrespect whatsoever.

    My computer just got attacked again. We really are under a Theocratic Technocracy, to keep us Uppity Humans under control, aren't we? Crowd Control is probably necessary, but I don't like the manner in which the Irresponsible Warden and Guards are guarding and punishing the Irresponsible Devil's Island Death-Row Prisoners. The Whole Thing Stinks. Again, I don't have a problem with the ethical and proper management of people, planets, and technology. In fact, I insist on it.

    I continue to think that I don't know much about what's really going on. All I can do is consider possibilities and probabilities. Despite my nasty accusations and speculations, I don't know who the good-guys and bad-guys really are. How can one really know, without exhaustive information. I have to keep thinking about idealistic politics and religion, and then do battle with various challenges. So far, there has been very little support or opposition. I'd like to be like President Martinez in 'The Event', but it's a bit late for that. http://www.nbc.com/the-event/video/arrival/1329374 Consider the Planet X and Elenin (extermination-level event?) parallels in this episode. I still think it would be cool if all of the renegade piloted-planets, piloted-comets, piloted-dwarf-stars, piloted-asteroids, piloted-moons, subsurface-bases, ufo's, etc., became part of a Brave New Solar System aka the United States of the Solar System, and I'm not speaking of Nazi-like, harsh, and dictatorial. Not the Old World Order. Not the New World Order. But the New Solar System, based upon Responsibility and an uncorrupted-form of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights, appropriately adapted and applied to the entire solar system. Perhaps Nibiru (if it really exists) could orbit 1 astronomical-unit beyond the orbit of Pluto. Pluto and Nibiru for Planethood!! I will continue to think about Solar System Governance because of my insecurity and disillusionment with the bullshit. I think the truth is really, really bad, and I doubt there is a satisfying solution. I feel a horrible sense of dread. I think my ideas on this thread are reasonable, but I fear that the ancient conflicts and universal realities might be impossible to resolve. The rest of my life will probably be hell, and my life after death will probably be an even worse hell. I tend to doubt that I will be allowed to continue to exist in this universe. Perhaps none of us will be allowed to live as Responsible and Free Male and Female Human Beings. To be, or not to be? That is the question.

    One final disclaimer: Take everything I have said, with a sea of salt. I have engaged in a lot of make-believe, role-playing, bluffing, pseudointellectualizing, speculating, posturing, joking, brainstorming, etc. I haven't lied, but I've come close to telling less than the truth. But now the jokes are over, folks. Just kidding! I'm going to just keep reviewing the mess that I've created, and try to create order out of chaos. I continue to think that this has merely been an introduction to insanity, which just scratches the surface of some very deep subjects. Damn! I just got a burn-notice from the God of This World! http://www.hulu.com/watch/252535/burn-notice-company-man#s-p1-so-i0 Wait a minute! I never worked for the God of This World! Oh, you got the notice from your mom? Well, I might've done some work for her in a previous life, but certainly not in this one! I think that burn-notice is from several thousand years ago! I found out that I was black-listed when I got stabbed in the back! I heard "You'll never work in this palace again!" as I lost consciousness! Just kidding! Or am I? What would Isis say?

    I'd love to keep talking about all of the "out of this world" stuff, but it really isn't resonating with anyone, and it certainly isn't doing me any good. Just the opposite. I think I might write a book, but it probably won't resemble this thread. It might be idealistic sci-fi, but I don't really know yet. All I know is that what I'm doing isn't working. Attempting to solve the world's problems seems to be viewed as being a mental-illness and a threat to national-security. If anything changes, you know where I live and work, and you probably have my phone-number. The ball is in your court. Namaste and Geronimo.

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    I just had to comment on Dr. Robert H. Schuller being removed from the board of the Crystal Cathedral. This is sad. Despite any shortcomings, the senior Schuller had the 'right-stuff' for conducting his pioneering ministry. I hope they can properly sort things out. I'd like to see someone take all of Dr. Schuller's books and sermons, and take all of the personalized parts out, and end-up with just principles and concepts content, complete with phrases such as 'Turn Your Scars Into Stars!', 'The Me That I See Is the Me That I'll Be!', 'Tough Times Never Last, But Tough People Do!', 'Bloom Where You Are Planted!', 'When Faced With a Mountain, I Will Not Quit. I Will Keep Striving Until I Climb Over, Find a Pass Through, Tunnel Underneath, or Simply Stay and Turn the Mountain Into a Goldmine, With God's Help!'. Believe it or not, I can actually do a pretty fair Robert Schuller imitation, especially the 'This is the Day That God Has Made! Let Us Rejoice and be Glad In It!!' One morning he started out the service with 'Come-On Fred! Let's Go!!' (Fred Swann was the organist/choirmaster). There is so much to learn from Robert Schuller and the Crystal Cathedral - both positive and negative. I still think the Crystal Cathedral might be a cool headquarters for the United States of the Solar System. But I still don't know how to properly implement such a thing. I can conceptualize the idealistic aspects, but the realities might be very different. If this concept were botched, it could turn into a HUGE mess. I keep thinking that no matter what we do, the discontent and disillusionment of the general public is going to be very, very difficult to deal with. They have been programmed with so much BS throughout the years, and things are so screwed-up, that even the best solutions are probably going to be trampled upon by some very angry and unhappy people. The demise of the Crystal Cathedral is an example of an idealistic venture which has gone on the rocks. They got so many things right, but yet they are still up Stink Creek.

    The world is getting way too small, and we are finding out way too much, and even if we do EVERYTHING right, it's going to take decades, or even centuries, for things to properly settle-down. I think people are probably going to have to be horribly shocked and disillusioned, before moving-on to bigger and better things. The finger in the dike thing just won't cut-it. The Catholics are interested in the Cathedral, which might be a good thing. I'd be very interested to see what they would do with such a facility. I continue to think that they are a big part of the problem and the solution. I continue to try to internalize an integration of the Teachings of Jesus, the U.S. Constitution, the Latin Mass, and Sacred Classical Music. This is just an exercise for me, which I think might be helpful for others. I sort of like the big French Catholic Churches and French Romantic Sacred Music, but the unbloody-sacrifice still gives me the creeps. The Sacrifice of the Mass should not be turned into a Happy Meal, but of what should an Ideal Church Service consist? I'd be a lot more comfortable with the Mass being sort of a Memorial for All Who Have Died Throughout the Centuries, complete with solemn reflection upon life, which makes people face themselves and think about things transcendent and eternal. I tend to think that Michael / Horus / Mithras / Jesus / ????? (The Greatest Possibility-Thinker) has sacrificed a helluva lot for hundreds of thousands of years, in life after life after life after life. But so have billions of others. Pain Seems to be the Cost of Doing Business in the Universe. It doesn't seem to get any easier, does it?

    Just remember that self-exaltation is no solution for self-degradation, and self-degradation is no solution for self-exaltation. Positive-delusion is no solution for negative-delusion, and negative-delusion is no solution for positive-delusion. A half-truth is not the truth. Research endlessly. I am going under the assumption that I am very likely deceived, at some level. This is one reason why I keep hedging and joking. I really don't wish to be taken too seriously. I want YOU to figure things out for yourselves. This is all about YOU. Researching this thread and the books and sermons of Dr. Robert H. Schuller are probably good places to begin, but certainly not to end. The Quest is Endless. Don't let it get you down. Stay away from the creepy stuff. There's a helluva lot of it out there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyeS9g7tmVc&feature=related Researching and daydreaming is creepy enough for me, and this seems to attract a certain amount of supernatural activity, but I certainly don't go looking for it. I think EVERYONE (both good and bad) is in trouble. Can I really afford to stop posting when things are so bad? But no one really reads this tripe, do they? Look at the comments posted above. Do you see much in-depth and on-topic discussion? I feel as though this is mostly a lost-cause, which has fallen on deaf-ears. One would really have to study this thread to get any benefit from it. I'm trying to do this, but it takes a helluva lot of discipline. We seem to mostly be dealing with Deception vs Deception throughout the whole world. Just know that I will not tolerate sin. Sin is NOT OK. But this doesn't mean that I'm intolerant. I wish to make Solar System Governance more and more idealistic and pragmatic, so as to lift everyone up, rather than picking on individual sinners in the backseat of their Yugo. What would Loki do? I think I'll rewatch 'Dogma' just for the heck of it. One evening, in the late 80's, Dr. Schuller stated very soberly that 'A Storm is Coming'. He wasn't kidding, and I think we're still in the eye of the hurricane. Namaste and Godspeed.

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    I get the feeling that I am supposed to clean-up my act, and become much more dignified, refined, publicly presentable, and socially acceptable. Well, I have not done all of the above for a reason. This all continues to be a test, and everyone is being tested. Everyone, including me. I am sorry if I don't measure-up to everyone's high and exacting standards. If you dress and act with the utmost taste and refinement, and just keep screwing-up the world, do you really expect that everything will eventually work out just fine??? This whole thing is so incredibly sick and stupid. I really do want a perfected humanity living in a perfected solar system, and I want it now. Why is this so hard??? This whole thing stinks!!!
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    There really seems to be at least two governments, visible and hidden. The hidden government seems to have some similarities to the Nazi phenomenon. So much of this seems to be creepy, corrupt, cruel, and violent. If we were just dealing with strange life-forms and advanced-technology, I might be able to get used to that, if the reasons for it were truly legitimate, but we seem to be dealing with something which is hostile towards the human-race, for whatever reasons. I know I sound like a broken-record, but I would like to see a United States of the Solar System control all of the presently secret stuff throughout the solar system. But obviously, the representatives would have to be a helluva lot more competent and responsible than the current crew of nitwits! This is seemingly a worldwide and solar system wide problem, and not just an American phenomenon, although it might be centered in underground bases located in the United States. Some of the underground and secret activities are sort of cool, but they MUST be properly and ethically managed, with reasonable access and transparency. There continues to be so many unknowns, that it's really difficult to make proper determinations. We have to do the best we can, with what we have to go on, pending future revelations. I am completely willing to do an about-face if presented with legitimate information which contradicts my biases.
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    I think the time has arrived for me to re-read the Holy Bible (KJV) and the Five-Volume 'Conflict of the Ages Series' by Ellen G. White - in light of this thread and everything I have learned over the past several years. I will listen to Latin Masses, Gregorian Chant, and Sacred Classical Music while I engage in this ambitious project. Very few of you will understand why I am doing this. I could try to explain, but I doubt that it would do any good. However, I don't think the Queen of Heaven and God of This World would require any explanation whatsoever. I further suspect that a lot of Jesuits know what I'm talking about as well. What would Des Ford say? I don't think Ellen White wrote the Writings of Ellen White and I don't think William Shakespeare wrote the Writings of William Shakespeare. What would Walter Rea say? What would Francis Bacon say? I could go on and on in this vein, but I will spare you. Once again, this thread merely scratches the surface. This is a deeper and nastier thing than I think any of us can imagine, including me. I realize and admit how little I know, and this terrifies me 24/7. I think I knew a helluva lot in previous lives, but I think my last life was a real doozie, and that I entered this life as a basket-case. I think I might be starting to remember, but perhaps I should try to forget. This stuff is REALLY creeping me out. I feel weaker than the weakest of the weak...

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    Today, I'm reading from a 1,000 page book about Daniel 8:14 and the Day of Atonement, by Dr. Desmond Ford. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Ford I fundamentally disagree with him - but I deeply respect his thinking, writing, speaking, and debating skills. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy37dpBXjEs&feature=related I'd love to know who ALL of his teachers were (in addition to Edward Heppenstall and F.F. Bruce). Tomorrow, I'll go back to conceptualizing a Vatican-Based Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System. From what I hear - the Vatican REALLY loves me! Also, I supposedly have a fan-club on Phobos!! I'd like to visit them someday! Sorry. I was going to stop, wasn't I? But, in a sense, this thread really started decades ago, with my exposure to Dr. Ford. Just blame Des. I just realized that when I spoke to Desmond Ford in the late 80's - the subject was 'The Life and Teachings of Jesus'. Des considered the Life of Christ titled 'The Desire of Ages' by Ellen White - to be the greatest book outside of the Holy Bible. (See his Oct. 27, 1979 Forum Lecture) 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqhH5RVLW1o&feature=related 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXg7Hm3Exec&feature=related (You can't imagine how much trouble this lecture caused!) I once spoke to the respondant - Dr. Eric Syme about the aftermath of this lecture. Another controversial Adventist was/is Robert Brinsmead. He encouraged me to focus on the Teachings of Jesus a few years ago. Here is an interesting in-house style panel-discussion. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOzZNKxcNQ4&feature=related 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7PpoO9oPgc&feature=related (I don't necessarily endorse the points made in this discussion - but it raises many very important issues - which apply to nearly all religious organizations). Try reading 'The Desire of Ages' side by side with 'The Keys of This Blood' by Malachi Martin. Add 'The Federalist Papers' and a Latin Mass to this recipe for a very tasty doctrinal and governmental dish. Try applying that '79 Ford lecture to the perpetual-sacrificial aspect of the Mass (instead of the Investigative Judgment) and to the Papacy (instead of Ellen White). How much flexibility is there regarding the practice and interpretation of the Mass, while still maintaining it's validity? Can the Teachings of Jesus and Sacred Classical Music be properly and seamlessly woven into the Traditional Latin Mass - so as to maximize the Life and Teachings of Jesus - rather than the Human Sacrifice of Christ? I'm trying to make this work - but I need some serious help in this sensitive area. People are rather particular and testy regarding how they pray.

    I am not a Seventh-day Sedavacantist by birth, but by conviction! The relentless pursuit of truth can be rather excruciating, at times. Each individual and organization is offered truth or repose. You can have one - or the other - but you can't have both - and the truth is sometimes of a most startling nature. The truth might set us free - by driving us completely insane. But please, where might I find a proper debate regarding solar system governance - with the level of scholarship and intensity exhibited by Dr. Desmond Ford??? I just wish I could make my case with the combined communication skills of Desmond Ford, Robert H. Schuller, and Malachi Martin. Sometimes I wonder if they had the same teacher. What would Gillian Ford say? What would Luke Ford say? (now there's an interesting story!) Siriusly. It's probably pointless and futile to talk about all of this on this web-site, isn't it? But where in this solar system could I get into a heated scholarly debate regarding everything I have posted on Avalon 1 and Mists of Avalon? I really do have to talk to myself, don't I? But don't blame the SDA Church for my disruptive insanity. I am a product of my own delusions. I doubt that they want to have anything to do with me. They never tried to save my lost soul after I quit attending church, which led me to believe that they either didn't give a damn, or that they didn't believe their own teachings. I learned to distrust the Roman Catholic Church, but I also learned to distrust the Seventh-day Adventist Church. I still love the Writings of Ellen White, but I pick and choose. I espouse 'Dalmation Theology'! Also, read 'John Harvey Kellogg, M.D.' by Richard Schwartz. It's a real eye-opener. What would Zane Kime say, if he were still alive? Who killed Dr. Kime? And why? Watch 'The Tomato Effect' http://www.veoh.com/watch/v1920841852Fktg64?h1=The+Tomato+Effect+by+Director+Faun+Kime and notice a particularly strange interview at around 01:15:00 to 01:25:00. How many people were on that mountain when Zane died??? I communicated with Faun regarding this. And take a long, hard look at the proton-accelerator at Loma Linda University Medical Center. What would timetotelltheworld say? Remember him? What would the DOE and the DOD say? What would Dr. James Slater say? What would Harvard say? What would Los Alamos say? We have events!!! Nothing succeeds like fame, fortune, power, high-technology, and acute-care medicine in God's name! We have God-Particles! And those nurses are so sexy! But whatever happened to prevention?? What? Never-mind. You wouldn't believe who I think I might've gone to school with!!! Nuff said! Hell hath no fury like this scorned and sick little mind of mine!!! Once again:

    Consider the Integration of:

    1. The Teachings of Jesus.

    2. The U.S. Constitution.

    3. The Latin Mass.

    4. The Sacred Classical Music.

    5. A Vatican-Based Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System.

    I'm not necessarily saying this is the way things should be, or that this is my final answer. I'm simply saying that this possibility should be exhaustively thought-through by the best and the brightest beings in the solar system.


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    Namaste to the People of the World. I Know in Whom I Have Believed. On Christ the Solid Rock I Stand. All Other Ground is Sinking Sand. Namaste to the Beings of the Universe.

    Is it really possible to win in this solar system, without deception and corruption, masked with an innocent-looking front and a happy-face? Angelic on the outside, and demonic on the inside? Do the dishonest rule the honest? Do the corrupt rule the stupid? You know what I'm talking about. I think this is an uphill battle which isn't over at all. It might never be over. Deception seems to be at the core of life in this solar system, for both the good and the bad. White-Lies vs Black-Lies? None seems to be righteous, but don't expect a human-sacrifice to get you off the hook. There might be a helluva lot of surprises in the great hereafter. Let him and her who is righteous, be righteous still? Let him and her who is filthy, be filthy still? Is it time for Probation to close? If you don't know what that is, you need to do some research. It might be later than all of us think. I want things to work out well for everyone, but is this really possible? Am I so soft and kind, that business won't get taken care of? Is my philosophy a recipe for never ending sin and corruption in this solar system? Do I need to be a helluva lot tougher? I am open to all perspectives. I really want a perfected humanity to live in a perfected solar system, and I will do whatever it takes to make this happen. I want to be a highly, highly ethical tough-guy, who is very kind, but very firm. That's the goal. This is probably an internal battle which will never be resolved. The only place I can seem to debate the issues which concern me most, are within my own mind. Nowhere else. This is my private hell, which I have tried to share in some threads and posts, which very few seem to be even remotely interested in. I don't wish to make a great big public deal out of this. My only hope is that some key individuals might gain something of value from this tempest in a teapot. I've never felt lower than I feel right now. My nerves, teeth, finances, and faith are shot. I feel like the pilot in the 50's who calmly radioed, "I'm over the Grand Canyon. I'm on fire, and I'm going down." Geronimo. http://www.hulu.com/watch/240618/stargate-universe-gauntlet#s-p1-so-i0

    There is a brutal gang of facts (or a brutal gang of Dracs?!) in this solar system, which I think the 'regressives' have taken advantage of. (I'd still like to start a Home for Battered Dracs) I think the guilt goes in all directions. The truth seems to be hidden and protected by the good and the bad, with a wide variety of lies and delusions. It's as if the biggest secret can never be known by the Goyim, or anyone else, for that matter. Perhaps with good reason. I haven't been eager to have my speculations and ideas go viral on the internet. Waking people up with the wrong information, in the wrong way, could be utterly devastating. I don't think the truth should be suppressed, but I think it needs to be very wisely revealed. I always knew there was a helluva lot more to the solar system than I knew about, but I wasn't particularly eager to find out the details. I have proceeded in a very passive manner, but the internet has slingshotted me into a heap of trouble. I'm really trying to extinguish fires, rather than trying to set new fires, believe it or not. Is my 'East of Eden' or 'East of Giza' Archangelic Theory essentially correct? I have no idea whether it is, or not, but PLEASE watch 'East of Eden' over and over again, and see what you think, especially regarding the Rebellion and War in Heaven, the Old World Order, the New World Order, and even my desired New Solar System. I doubt that any of you will do this, but you should. To speak plainly, are we dealing with a Sirian King and Three Reptilian Queens? We Three Queens of Orion are Trying to Rule the Heavens Afar (After Removing the Sirian King?)? Gabriel vs Lucifer vs Michael? Old World Order vs New World Order vs New Solar System? Did Michael break rank with Gabriel and Lucifer in Ancient Egypt at the Time of Christ? Did Lucifer break rank with Gabriel around 800-900 AD? Babylonian, Egyptian, Grecian, Roman Catholic Old World Order vs Teutonic Zionist, Bavarian Illuminati, Protestant Reformation, Nazi New World Order? I have not a clue how Michael might fit into all of this hypothetical madness, except that I think Michael might be a reincarnating writer, musician, architect, artist, scientist, creator, conspirator, and possibly a hostage. Original Hostage Michael? Dr. Who? Indiana Jones? Michaelangelo? Pastor Angelicus? Damned if I know, but I know I should stop, because they have ways to make me stop. Many ways.

    I frankly don't know what I'm supposed to be doing, or not doing. No one, or hardly anyone, will talk to me. Should I try to get an appointment with the Pope or the Queen? Should I channel Elvis? I really think I should just shut-up and study, but I can't seem to stop rambling. I think this is mostly due to insecurity, and not knowing what the hell is going on. I can mentally generate my own version of "V" or "The Event" and try to imagine saving the solar system and the human race, but this is just dreamland. I like the University of Solar System Studies and Governance idea. I like the idea of idealistically looking at the Secret Government, the Secret Space Program, the Vatican, the City of London, Washington DC, the United Nations, the Alphabet Agencies, the Monarchy, and Colonizing the Solar System, but again, this is just dreamland. I think I should probably spend most of my time conceptualizing a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System - with a variety of Headquarter Scenarios. I'm liking the University Concept, with campuses throughout the solar system, as integral parts of a United States of the Solar System, which might be run mostly by those who have PhD's in Solar System Studies and Governance, and who have a network of colleagues to interact with. But I do wish to make it clear that I don't wish to cut the Roman Catholic Church out, and thumb my nose at them! That would be a HUGE mistake, wouldn't it? I would like to make use of existing solar system governance infrastructures and networks. I just want the whole thing cleaned-up, reformed, improved, made more transparent, less corrupt and corruptible, with high levels of responsibility and response-ability. That's the theory anyway. I want this thing to be as competent and inclusive as possible. I do not want petty bullshit. I want that which is in everyone's best interest. But this is really just a continuation of my little tempest in a teapot. I still don't have a clue what's REALLY going on, and learning the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth about life, the universe, and everything - could change EVERYTHING. I just wish that I didn't feel like I'm fighting all the time, and feel like I'm being supernaturally attacked 24/7. I could be delusional, but that's sure what it feels like, complete with ringing in the ears, tight muscles, anxiety, and occasional amoeba-like wisps of white-light passing before my eyes. I try to take it in stride, but it just isn't working. My mind is probably working at about 25% of the level that it should be operating. This has been going on for a very long time, and I'm so very sick and tired of it. Anyway, that's my sad story, but don't we all have our sorry little tales of woe? We all have our crosses to bear, whether or not we have Messiah-Complexes.

    I'm sort of working on becoming a cross between Anna in 'V' and Palmer Joss in 'Contact', as strange as that sounds. I just want a highly responsible and spiritual secular society, without all of the religious and militaristic baggage. But whenever I say something, I immediately think of the counterpoints to what I just said. I wouldn't mind seeing everyone go through some sort of military training, for the discipline and character-developing aspects, more than anything. I also think that proper participation in religious services can be a good thing, while not being required for 'salvation'. How does one reform society, without destroying civilization? I'm going to try to live what I've been ranting about. My personal life needs serious therapy, but if I'm being quadruple-teamed by the darkside, I might be screwed no matter what I try to do to change my life. They could've at least sent dominatrix-succubi to rein me in! Just remember, once you've had Drac, you never go back!

    I'm going to keep idealistically conceptualizing a perfected humanity living in a perfected solar system - even though I know that things are not ideal, and that they probably never will be. I love everyone, but I distrust everyone, and I mean everyone. The Bavarian Illuminati, Teutonic Zionism, Freemasonry, the Nazis, the Alphabet Agencies, and the Jesuits are VERY interesting to me. Are they interlinked? I'm going to try to be objective and unemotional, as I continue to passively try to listen to as many perspectives as possible. I continue to say that I don't have this mess figured-out. I don't think I'm even close, but I do think I'm on the right track. I continue to think that we are mostly dealing with Bad Guys fighting Bad Guys, and Good Guys getting caught in the middle. I continue to think that I might have a very interesting reincarnational past, but I don't really know. I won't do regression or anything creepy. I just research and speculate. Continue to focus upon RESPONSIBILITY, and build everything on this word. This is the underlying concept in the Teachings of Jesus. Please study this thread as a whole, do your own research, and come to your own conclusions. Even if I had the power to lead, I would facilitate responsible excellence in others, and I would mostly keep doing what I'm doing right now, believe it or not. This really is over - for now - but it will never really be over, will it? I just wish to lift EVERYONE up. That's the goal. I love all of you. Namaste. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WATrM9GSzyE

    ONE MORE TIME: KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS. DON'T TRUST ANYONE OR ANYTHING. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW ACCURATE AND PURE OR MISTAKEN AND DECEIVED I HAVE BEEN IN MY INTERNET POSTING. I AM VERY FEARFUL REGARDING THE STATE OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM. I THINK WE ARE IN VERY SERIOUS TROUBLE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS. I DESIRE A HAPPY ENDING, AND I HAVE TRIED TO BE IDEALISTIC, BUT MY EFFORTS COULD BE HIJACKED INTO SOMETHING WHICH MIGHT BE QUITE DESTRUCTIVE TO HUMANITY. BUT PLEASE KEEP THINKING ABOUT IDEALISTIC PSYCHOLOGY, ETHICS, POLITICS, AND RELIGION. I MIGHT BE COMPLETELY SCREWED, BUT TRY TO LEARN AS MUCH AS YOU CAN FROM WHAT I HAVE POSTED. I'M REALLY STOPPING BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE A USED AND UNBALANCED PAWN OF THE DARKSIDE. GOOD INTENTIONS HAVE PAVED THE ROAD TO HELL, OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND MY GOOD INTENTIONS COULD EASILY GO INTO A VERY DEEP DITCH. I THINK THINGS COULD GET VERY BAD, VERY QUICKLY. ASK A HELLUVA LOT OF QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU JUMP ON A BAND-WAGON OR A UFO. IT COULD BE ON THE FAST-TRACK TO HELL.

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    The following introduction to the Sermon on the Mount is from the preface and first chapter of 'Thoughts from the Mount of Blessing' by Ellen White. This is followed by the Sermon on the Mount from Matthew 5-7. (KJV) The homily is from 'The Sermon on the Mount' in the book 'Desire of Ages' by Ellen White. Try listening to a Latin Mass - while reading this aloud. Repeatedly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enWiFcsBqIE

    The Sermon on the Mount is Heaven's benediction to the world--a voice from the throne of God. It was given to mankind to be to them the law of duty and the light of heaven, their hope and consolation in despondency, their joy and comfort in all the vicissitudes and walks of life. Here the Prince of preachers, the Master Teacher, utters the words that the Father gave Him to speak. The Beatitudes are Christ's greeting, not only to those who believe, but to the whole human family. He seems to have forgotten for a moment that He is in the world, not in heaven; and He uses the familiar salutation of the world of light. Blessings flow from His lips as the gushing forth of a long-sealed current of rich life.

    Christ leaves us in no doubt as to the traits of character that He will always recognize and bless. From the ambitious favorites of the world, He turns to those whom they disown, pronouncing all blessed who receive His light and life. To the poor in spirit, the meek, the lowly, the sorrowful, the despised, the persecuted, He opens His arms of refuge, saying, "Come unto Me, . . . and I will give you rest." Christ can look upon the misery of the world without a shade of sorrow for having created man. In the human heart He sees more than sin, more than misery. In His infinite wisdom and love He sees man's possibilities, the height to which he may attain. He knows that, even though human beings have abused their mercies and destroyed their God-given dignity, yet the Creator is to be glorified in their redemption.

    Throughout all time the words that Christ spoke from the mount of Beatitudes will retain their power. Every sentence is a jewel from the treasure house of truth. The principles enunciated in this discourse are for all ages and for all classes of men. With divine energy, Christ expressed His faith and hope as He pointed out class after class as blessed because of having formed righteous characters. Living the life of the Life-giver, through faith in Him, everyone can reach the standard held up in His words.

    More than fourteen centuries before Jesus was born in Bethlehem, the children of Israel gathered in the fair vale of Shechem, and from the mountains on either side the voices of the priests were heard proclaiming the blessings and the curses--"a blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the Lord your God: . . . and a curse, if ye will not obey." Deuteronomy 11:27, 28. And thus the mountain from which the words of benediction were spoken came to be known as the mount of blessing. But it was not upon Gerizim that the words were spoken which have come as a benediction to a sinning and sorrowing world. Israel fell short of the high ideal which had been set before her. Another than Joshua must guide His people to the true rest of faith. No longer is Gerizim known as the mount of the Beatitudes, but that unnamed mountain beside the Lake of Gennesaret, where Jesus spoke the words of blessing to His disciples and the multitude.

    Let us in imagination go back to that scene, and, as we sit with the disciples on the mountainside, enter into the thoughts and feelings that filled their hearts. Understanding what the words of Jesus meant to those who heard them, we may discern in them a new vividness and beauty, and may also gather for ourselves their deeper lessons.

    When the Saviour began His ministry, the popular conception of the Messiah and His work was such as wholly unfitted the people to receive Him. The spirit of true devotion had been lost in tradition and ceremonialism, and the prophecies were interpreted at the dictate of proud, world-loving hearts. The Jews looked for the coming One, not as a Saviour from sin, but as a great prince who should bring all nations under the supremacy of the Lion of the tribe of Judah. In vain had John the Baptist, with the heart-searching power of the ancient prophets, called them to repentance. In vain had he, beside the Jordan, pointed to Jesus as the Lamb of God, that taketh away the sin of the world. God was seeking to direct their minds to Isaiah's prophecy of the suffering Saviour, but they would not hear.

    Had the teachers and leaders in Israel yielded to His transforming grace, Jesus would have made them His ambassadors among men. In Judea first the coming of the kingdom had been proclaimed, and the call to repentance had been given. In the act of driving out the desecrators from the temple at Jerusalem, Jesus had announced Himself as the Messiah--the One who should cleanse the soul from the defilement of sin and make His people a holy temple unto the Lord. But the Jewish leaders would not humble themselves to receive the lowly Teacher from Nazareth. At His second visit to Jerusalem He was arraigned before the Sanhedrin, and fear of the people alone prevented these dignitaries from trying to take His life. Then it was that, leaving Judea, He entered upon His ministry in Galilee. His work there had continued some months before the Sermon on the Mount was given. The message He had proclaimed throughout the land, "The kingdom of heaven is at hand" (Matthew 4:17), had arrested the attention of all classes, and had still further fanned the flame of their ambitious hopes. The fame of the new Teacher had spread beyond the limits of Palestine, and, notwithstanding the attitude of the hierarchy, the feeling was widespread that this might be the hoped-for Deliverer. Great multitudes thronged the steps of Jesus, and the popular enthusiasm ran high.

    The time had come for the disciples who had been most closely associated with Christ to unite more directly in His work, that these vast throngs might not be left uncared for, as sheep without a shepherd. Some of these disciples had joined themselves to Him at the beginning of His ministry, and nearly all the twelve had been associated together as members of the family of Jesus. Yet they also, misled by the teaching of the rabbis, shared the popular expectation of an earthly kingdom. They could not comprehend the movements of Jesus. Already they had been perplexed and troubled that He made no effort to strengthen His cause by securing the support of the priests and rabbis, that He did nothing to establish His authority as an earthly king. A great work was yet to be accomplished for these disciples before they would be prepared for the sacred trust that would be theirs when Jesus should ascend to heaven. Yet they had responded to the love of Christ, and, though slow of heart to believe, Jesus saw in them those whom He could train and discipline for His great work. And now that they had been long enough with Him to establish, in a measure, their faith in the divine character of His mission, and the people also had received evidence of His power which they could not question, the way was prepared for an avowal of the principles of His kingdom that would help them to comprehend its true nature.

    Alone upon a mountain near the Sea of Galilee, Jesus had spent all night in prayer for these chosen ones. At the dawn He called them to Him, and, with words of prayer and instruction, laid His hands upon their heads in benediction, setting them apart to the gospel work. Then He repaired with them to the seaside, where in the early morning a great multitude had already begun to assemble. Besides the usual crowd from the Galilean towns, there were great numbers from Judea, and from Jerusalem itself; from Perea, and from the half-heathen population of Decapolis; from Idumea, away to the south of Judea, and from Tyre and Sidon, the Phoenician cities on the shore of the Mediterranean. "Hearing what great things He did," they "came to hear Him, and to be healed of their diseases; and . . . power came forth from Him, and healed them all." Mark 3:8, R.V.; Luke 6:17-19, R.V.

    Then, as the narrow beach did not afford even standing room within reach of His voice for all who desired to hear Him, Jesus led the way back to the mountainside. Reaching a level space that afforded a pleasant gathering place for the vast assembly, He seated Himself upon the grass, and His disciples and the multitude followed His example. With a feeling that something more than usual might be expected, the disciples had pressed about their Master. From the events of the morning they gathered assurance that some announcement was about to be made in regard to the kingdom which, as they fondly hoped, He was soon to establish. A feeling of expectancy pervaded the multitude also, and eager faces gave evidence of the deep interest.

    As they sat upon the green hillside, awaiting the words of the divine Teacher, their hearts were filled with thoughts of future glory. There were scribes and Pharisees who looked forward to the day when they should have dominion over the hated Romans and possess the riches and splendor of the world's great empire. The poor peasants and fishermen hoped to hear the assurance that their wretched hovels, the scanty food, the life of toil, and fear of want, were to be exchanged for mansions of plenty and days of ease. In place of the one coarse garment which was their covering by day and their blanket at night, they hoped that Christ would give them the rich and costly robes of their conquerors. All hearts thrilled with the proud hope that Israel was soon to be honored before the nations as the chosen of the Lord, and Jerusalem exalted as the head of a universal kingdom.

    The Holy Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ according to Matthew.

    Matthew 5: 1 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set , his disciples came unto him: 2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying , 3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 4 Blessed are they that mourn : for they shall be comforted . 5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. 6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled . 7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy . 8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. 9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. 10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are ye , when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely , for my sake . 12 Rejoice , and be exceeding glad : for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. 13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour , wherewith shall it be salted ? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. 14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid . 15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. 16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy , but to fulfil . 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass , one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled . 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. 21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill ; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say , Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. 23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; 24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way ; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

    25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. 26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing. 27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery : 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. 29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out , and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish , and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. 30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off , and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish , and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. 31 It hath been said , Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: 32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery : and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery . 33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself , but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: 34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: 35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool : neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37 But let your communication be , Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil. 38 Ye have heard that it hath been said , An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law , and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away . 43 Ye have heard that it hath been said , Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye ? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

    Matthew 6: 1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven. 2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. 3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth : 4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly . 5 And when thou prayest , thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you , They have their reward. 6 But thou, when thou prayest , enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly . 7 But when ye pray , use not vain repetitions , as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. 8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him. 9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come . Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. 14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. 16 Moreover when ye fast , be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast . Verily I say unto you , They have their reward. 17 But thou, when thou fastest , anoint thine head, and wash thy face; 18 That thou appear not unto men to fast , but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly . 19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt , and where thieves break through and steal : 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt , and where thieves do not break through nor steal : 21 For where your treasure is , there will your heart be also. 22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. 23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! 24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. 25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat , or what ye shall drink ; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on . Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? 26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap , nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? 27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? 28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow ; they toil not, neither do they spin : 29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is , and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? 31 Therefore take no thought , saying , What shall we eat ? or, What shall we drink ? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed ? 32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek :) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. 34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

    Matthew 7: 1 Judge not, that ye be not judged . 2 For with what judgment ye judge , ye shall be judged : and with what measure ye mete , it shall be measured to you again . 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold , a beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. 6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. 7 Ask , and it shall be given you; seek , and ye shall find ; knock , and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth ; and he that seeketh findeth ; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened . 9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? 10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? 11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him? 12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. 13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat : 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits . Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down , and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them , I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended , and the floods came , and the winds blew , and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended , and the floods came , and the winds blew , and beat upon that house; and it fell : and great was the fall of it.
    28 And it came to pass , when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine: 29 For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

    The Gospel of the Lord.

    Christ disappointed the hope of worldly greatness. In the Sermon on the Mount He sought to undo the work that had been wrought by false education, and to give His hearers a right conception of His kingdom and of His own character. Yet He did not make a direct attack on the errors of the people. He saw the misery of the world on account of sin, yet He did not present before them a vivid delineation of their wretchedness. He taught them of something infinitely better than they had known. Without combating their ideas of the kingdom of God, He told them the conditions of entrance therein, leaving them to draw their own conclusions as to its nature. The truths He taught are no less important to us than to the multitude that followed Him. We no less than they need to learn the foundation principles of the kingdom of God.

    Christ's first words to the people on the mount were words of blessing. Happy are they, He said, who recognize their spiritual poverty, and feel their need of redemption. The gospel is to be preached to the poor. Not to the spiritually proud, those who claim to be rich and in need of nothing, is it revealed, but to those who are humble and contrite. One fountain only has been opened for sin, a fountain for the poor in spirit. The proud heart strives to earn salvation; but both our title to heaven and our fitness for it are found in the righteousness of Christ. The Lord can do nothing toward the recovery of man until, convinced of his own weakness, and stripped of all self-sufficiency, he yields himself to the control of God. Then he can receive the gift that God is waiting to bestow. From the soul that feels his need, nothing is withheld. He has unrestricted access to Him in whom all fullness dwells. "For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones." Isa. 57:15.

    "Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted." By these words Christ does not teach that mourning in itself has power to remove the guilt of sin. He gives no sanction to pretense or to voluntary humility. The mourning of which He speaks does not consist in melancholy and lamentation. While we sorrow on account of sin, we are to rejoice in the precious privilege of being children of God. We often sorrow because our evil deeds bring unpleasant consequences to ourselves; but this is not repentance. Real sorrow for sin is the result of the working of the Holy Spirit. The Spirit reveals the ingratitude of the heart that has slighted and grieved the Saviour, and brings us in contrition to the foot of the cross. By every sin Jesus is wounded afresh; and as we look upon Him whom we have pierced, we mourn for the sins that have brought anguish upon Him. Such mourning will lead to the renunciation of sin.

    The worldling may pronounce this sorrow a weakness; but it is the strength which binds the penitent to the Infinite One with links that cannot be broken. It shows that the angels of God are bringing back to the soul the graces that were lost through hardness of heart and transgression. The tears of the penitent are only the raindrops that precede the sunshine of holiness. This sorrow heralds a joy which will be a living fountain in the soul. "Only acknowledge thine iniquity, that thou hast transgressed against the Lord thy God;" "and I will not cause Mine anger to fall upon you: for I am merciful, saith the Lord." Jer. 3:13, 12. "Unto them that mourn in Zion," He has appointed to give "beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness." Isa. 61:3. And for those also who mourn in trial and sorrow there is comfort. The bitterness of grief and humiliation is better than the indulgences of sin. Through affliction God reveals to us the plague spots in our characters, that by His grace we may overcome our faults. Unknown chapters in regard to ourselves are opened to us, and the test comes, whether we will accept the reproof and the counsel of God. When brought into trial, we are not to fret and complain. We should not rebel, or worry ourselves out of the hand of Christ.

    We are to humble the soul before God. The ways of the Lord are obscure to him who desires to see things in a light pleasing to himself. They appear dark and joyless to our human nature. But God's ways are ways of mercy and the end is salvation. Elijah knew not what he was doing when in the desert he said that he had had enough of life, and prayed that he might die. The Lord in His mercy did not take him at his word. There was yet a great work for Elijah to do; and when his work was done, he was not to perish in discouragement and solitude in the wilderness. Not for him the descent into the dust of death, but the ascent in glory, with the convoy of celestial chariots, to the throne on high. God's word for the sorrowing is, "I have seen his ways, and will heal him: I will lead him also, and restore comforts unto him and to his mourners." "I will turn their mourning into joy, and will comfort them, and make them rejoice from their sorrow." Isa. 57:18; Jer. 31:13.

    "Blessed are the meek." The difficulties we have to encounter may be very much lessened by that meekness which hides itself in Christ. If we possess the humility of our Master, we shall rise above the slights, the rebuffs, the annoyances, to which we are daily exposed, and they will cease to cast a gloom over the spirit. The highest evidence of nobility in a Christian is self-control. He who under abuse or cruelty fails to maintain a calm and trustful spirit robs God of His right to reveal in him His own perfection of character. Lowliness of heart is the strength that gives victory to the followers of Christ; it is the token of their connection with the courts above.

    "Though the Lord be high, yet hath He respect unto the lowly." Ps. 138:6. Those who reveal the meek and lowly spirit of Christ are tenderly regarded by God. They may be looked upon with scorn by the world, but they are of great value in His sight. Not only the wise, the great, the beneficent, will gain a passport to the heavenly courts; not only the busy worker, full of zeal and restless activity. No; the poor in spirit, who crave the presence of an abiding Christ, the humble in heart, whose highest ambition is to do God's will,--these will gain an abundant entrance. They will be among that number who have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. "Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple: and He that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them." Rev. 7:15.

    "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness." The sense of unworthiness will lead the heart to hunger and thirst for righteousness, and this desire will not be disappointed. Those who make room in their hearts for Jesus will realize His love. All who long to bear the likeness of the character of God shall be satisfied. The Holy Spirit never leaves unassisted the soul who is looking unto Jesus. He takes of the things of Christ and shows them unto him. If the eye is kept fixed on Christ, the work of the Spirit ceases not until the soul is conformed to His image. The pure element of love will expand the soul, giving it a capacity for higher attainments, for increased knowledge of heavenly things, so that it will not rest short of the fullness. "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness; for they shall be filled."

    The merciful shall find mercy, and the pure in heart shall see God. Every impure thought defiles the soul, impairs the moral sense, and tends to obliterate the impressions of the Holy Spirit. It dims the spiritual vision, so that men cannot behold God. The Lord may and does forgive the repenting sinner; but though forgiven, the soul is marred. All impurity of speech or of thought must be shunned by him who would have clear discernment of spiritual truth. But the words of Christ cover more than freedom from sensual impurity, more than freedom from that ceremonial defilement which the Jews so rigorously shunned. Selfishness prevents us from beholding God. The self-seeking spirit judges of God as altogether such a one as itself. Until we have renounced this, we cannot understand Him who is love. Only the unselfish heart, the humble and trustful spirit, shall see God as "merciful and gracious, long-suffering, and abundant in goodness and truth." Ex. 34:6.

    "Blessed are the peacemakers." The peace of Christ is born of truth. It is harmony with God. The world is at enmity with the law of God; sinners are at enmity with their Maker; and as a result they are at enmity with one another. But the psalmist declares, "Great peace have they which love Thy law: and nothing shall offend them." Ps. 119:165. Men cannot manufacture peace. Human plans for the purification and uplifting of individuals or of society will fail of producing peace, because they do not reach the heart. The only power that can create or perpetuate true peace is the grace of Christ. When this is implanted in the heart, it will cast out the evil passions that cause strife and dissension. "Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree;" and life's desert "shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose." Isa. 55:13; 35:1.

    The multitudes were amazed at this teaching, which was so at variance with the precepts and example of the Pharisees. The people had come to think that happiness consisted in the possession of the things of this world, and that fame and the honor of men were much to be coveted. It was very pleasing to be called "Rabbi," and to be extolled as wise and religious, having their virtues paraded before the public. This was regarded as the crown of happiness. But in the presence of that vast throng, Jesus declared that earthly gain and honor were all the reward such persons would ever receive. He spoke with certainty, and a convincing power attended His words. The people were silenced, and a feeling of fear crept over them. They looked at one another doubtfully. Who of them would be saved if this Man's teachings were true? Many were convicted that this remarkable Teacher was actuated by the Spirit of God, and that the sentiments He uttered were divine.

    After explaining what constitutes true happiness, and how it may be obtained, Jesus more definitely pointed out the duty of His disciples, as teachers chosen of God to lead others into the path of righteousness and eternal life. He knew that they would often suffer from disappointment and discouragement, that they would meet with decided opposition, that they would be insulted, and their testimony rejected. Well He knew that in the fulfillment of their mission, the humble men who listened so attentively to His words were to bear calumny, torture, imprisonment, and death, and He continued: "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for My sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you." The world loves sin, and hates righteousness, and this was the cause of its hostility to Jesus. All who refuse His infinite love will find Christianity a disturbing element. The light of Christ sweeps away the darkness that covers their sins, and the need of reform is made manifest. While those who yield to the influence of the Holy Spirit begin war with themselves, those who cling to sin war against the truth and its representatives.

    Thus strife is created, and Christ's followers are accused as troublers of the people. But it is fellowship with God that brings them the world's enmity. They are bearing the reproach of Christ. They are treading the path that has been trodden by the noblest of the earth. Not with sorrow, but with rejoicing, should they meet persecution. Each fiery trial is God's agent for their refining. Each is fitting them for their work as colaborers with Him. Each conflict has its place in the great battle for righteousness, and each will add to the joy of their final triumph. Having this in view, the test of their faith and patience will be cheerfully accepted rather than dreaded and avoided. Anxious to fulfill their obligation to the world, fixing their desire upon the approval of God, His servants are to fulfill every duty, irrespective of the fear or the favor of men.

    "Ye are the salt of the earth," Jesus said. Do not withdraw yourselves from the world in order to escape persecution. You are to abide among men, that the savor of the divine love may be as salt to preserve the world from corruption. Hearts that respond to the influence of the Holy Spirit are the channels through which God's blessing flows. Were those who serve God removed from the earth, and His Spirit withdrawn from among men, this world would be left to desolation and destruction, the fruit of Satan's dominion. Though the wicked know it not, they owe even the blessings of this life to the presence, in the world, of God's people whom they despise and oppress. But if Christians are such in name only, they are like the salt that has lost its savor. They have no influence for good in the world. Through their misrepresentation of God they are worse than unbelievers.

    "Ye are the light of the world." The Jews thought to confine the benefits of salvation to their own nation; but Christ showed them that salvation is like the sunshine. It belongs to the whole world. The religion of the Bible is not to be confined between the covers of a book, nor within the walls of a church. It is not to be brought out occasionally for our own benefit, and then to be carefully laid aside again. It is to sanctify the daily life, to manifest itself in every business transaction and in all our social relations. True character is not shaped from without, and put on; it radiates from within. If we wish to direct others in the path of righteousness, the principles of righteousness must be enshrined in our own hearts. Our profession of faith may proclaim the theory of religion, but it is our practical piety that holds forth the word of truth. The consistent life, the holy conversation, the unswerving integrity, the active, benevolent spirit, the godly example,--these are the mediums through which light is conveyed to the world.

    Jesus had not dwelt on the specifications of the law, but He did not leave His hearers to conclude that He had come to set aside its requirements. He knew that spies stood ready to seize upon every word that might be wrested to serve their purpose. He knew the prejudice that existed in the minds of many of His hearers, and He said nothing to unsettle their faith in the religion and institutions that had been committed to them through Moses. Christ Himself had given both the moral and the ceremonial law. He did not come to destroy confidence in His own instruction. It was because of His great reverence for the law and the prophets that He sought to break through the wall of traditional requirements which hemmed in the Jews. While He set aside their false interpretations of the law, He carefully guarded His disciples against yielding up the vital truths committed to the Hebrews.

    The Pharisees prided themselves on their obedience to the law; yet they knew so little of its principles through everyday practice that to them the Saviour's words sounded like heresy. As He swept away the rubbish under which the truth had been buried, they thought He was sweeping away the truth itself. They whispered to one another that He was making light of the law. He read their thoughts, and answered them, saying, "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill." Here Jesus refutes the charge of the Pharisees. His mission to the world is to vindicate the sacred claims of that law which they charge Him with breaking. If the law of God could have been changed or abrogated, then Christ need not have suffered the consequences of our transgression. He came to explain the relation of the law to man, and to illustrate its precepts by His own life of obedience.

    God has given us His holy precepts, because He loves mankind. To shield us from the results of transgression, He reveals the principles of righteousness. The law is an expression of the thought of God; when received in Christ, it becomes our thought. It lifts us above the power of natural desires and tendencies, above temptations that lead to sin. God desires us to be happy, and He gave us the precepts of the law that in obeying them we might have joy. When at Jesus' birth the angels sang, "Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace, good will toward men" (Luke 2:14), they were declaring the principles of the law which He had come to magnify and make honorable.

    When the law was proclaimed from Sinai, God made known to men the holiness of His character, that by contrast they might see the sinfulness of their own. The law was given to convict them of sin, and reveal their need of a Saviour. It would do this as its principles were applied to the heart by the Holy Spirit. This work it is still to do. In the life of Christ the principles of the law are made plain; and as the Holy Spirit of God touches the heart, as the light of Christ reveals to men their need of His cleansing blood and His justifying righteousness, the law is still an agent in bringing us to Christ, that we may be justified by faith. "The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul." Ps. 19:7.

    "Till heaven and earth pass," said Jesus, "one jot or one tittle shall in nowise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." The sun shining in the heavens, the solid earth upon which you dwell, are God's witnesses that His law is changeless and eternal. Though they may pass away, the divine precepts shall endure. "It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail." Luke 16:17. The system of types that pointed to Jesus as the Lamb of God was to be abolished at His death; but the precepts of the Decalogue are as immutable as the throne of God.

    Since "the law of the Lord is perfect," every variation from it must be evil. Those who disobey the commandments of God, and teach others to do so, are condemned by Christ. The Saviour's life of obedience maintained the claims of the law; it proved that the law could be kept in humanity, and showed the excellence of character that obedience would develop. All who obey as He did are likewise declaring that the law is "holy, and just, and good." Rom. 7:12. On the other hand, all who break God's commandments are sustaining Satan's claim that the law is unjust, and cannot be obeyed. Thus they second the deceptions of the great adversary, and cast dishonor upon God. They are the children of the wicked one, who was the first rebel against God's law. To admit them into heaven would again bring in the elements of discord and rebellion, and imperil the well-being of the universe. No man who willfully disregards one principle of the law shall enter the kingdom of heaven. The rabbis counted their righteousness a passport to heaven; but Jesus declared it to be insufficient and unworthy. External ceremonies and a theoretical knowledge of truth constituted Pharisaical righteousness. The rabbis claimed to be holy through their own efforts in keeping the law; but their works had divorced righteousness from religion. While they were punctilious in ritual observances, their lives were immoral and debased. Their so-called righteousness could never enter the kingdom of heaven.

    The greatest deception of the human mind in Christ's day was that a mere assent to the truth constitutes righteousness. In all human experience a theoretical knowledge of the truth has been proved to be insufficient for the saving of the soul. It does not bring forth the fruits of righteousness. A jealous regard for what is termed theological truth often accompanies a hatred of genuine truth as made manifest in life. The darkest chapters of history are burdened with the record of crimes committed by bigoted religionists. The Pharisees claimed to be children of Abraham, and boasted of their possession of the oracles of God; yet these advantages did not preserve them from selfishness, malignity, greed for gain, and the basest hypocrisy. They thought themselves the greatest religionists of the world, but their so-called orthodoxy led them to crucify the Lord of glory. The same danger still exists. Many take it for granted that they are Christians, simply because they subscribe to certain theological tenets. But they have not brought the truth into practical life. They have not believed and loved it, therefore they have not received the power and grace that come through sanctification of the truth. Men may profess faith in the truth; but if it does not make them sincere, kind, patient, forbearing, heavenly-minded, it is a curse to its possessors, and through their influence it is a curse to the world.

    The righteousness which Christ taught is conformity of heart and life to the revealed will of God. Sinful men can become righteous only as they have faith in God and maintain a vital connection with Him. Then true godliness will elevate the thoughts and ennoble the life. Then the external forms of religion accord with the Christian's internal purity. Then the ceremonies required in the service of God are not meaningless rites, like those of the hypocritical Pharisees. Jesus takes up the commandments separately, and explains the depth and breadth of their requirement. Instead of removing one jot of their force, He shows how far-reaching their principles are, and exposes the fatal mistake of the Jews in their outward show of obedience. He declares that by the evil thought or the lustful look the law of God is transgressed. One who becomes a party to the least injustice is breaking the law and degrading his own moral nature. Murder first exists in the mind. He who gives hatred a place in his heart is setting his feet in the path of the murderer, and his offerings are abhorrent to God.

    The Jews cultivated a spirit of retaliation. In their hatred of the Romans they gave utterance to hard denunciations, and pleased the wicked one by manifesting his attributes. Thus they were training themselves to do the terrible deeds to which he led them on. In the religious life of the Pharisees there was nothing to recommend piety to the Gentiles. Jesus bade them not to deceive themselves with the thought that they could in heart rise up against their oppressors, and cherish the longing to avenge their wrongs. It is true there is an indignation that is justifiable, even in the followers of Christ. When they see that God is dishonored, and His service brought into disrepute, when they see the innocent oppressed, a righteous indignation stirs the soul. Such anger, born of sensitive morals, is not a sin. But those who at any supposed provocation feel at liberty to indulge anger or resentment are opening the heart to Satan. Bitterness and animosity must be banished from the soul if we would be in harmony with heaven.

    The Saviour goes farther than this. He says, "If thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath aught against thee; leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift." Many are zealous in religious services, while between them and their brethren are unhappy differences which they might reconcile. God requires them to do all in their power to restore harmony. Until they do this, He cannot accept their services. The Christian's duty in this matter is clearly pointed out. God pours His blessings upon all. "He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust." He is "kind unto the unthankful and to the evil." Luke 6:35. He bids us to be like Him. "Bless them that curse you," said Jesus; "do good to them that hate you, . . . that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven." These are the principles of the law, and they are the wellsprings of life.

    God's ideal for His children is higher than the highest human thought can reach. "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." This command is a promise. The plan of redemption contemplates our complete recovery from the power of Satan. Christ always separates the contrite soul from sin. He came to destroy the works of the devil, and He has made provision that the Holy Spirit shall be imparted to every repentant soul, to keep him from sinning. The tempter's agency is not to be accounted an excuse for one wrong act. Satan is jubilant when he hears the professed followers of Christ making excuses for their deformity of character. It is these excuses that lead to sin. There is no excuse for sinning. A holy temper, a Christlike life, is accessible to every repenting, believing child of God.

    The ideal of Christian character is Christlikeness. As the Son of man was perfect in His life, so His followers are to be perfect in their life. Jesus was in all things made like unto His brethren. He became flesh, even as we are. He was hungry and thirsty and weary. He was sustained by food and refreshed by sleep. He shared the lot of man; yet He was the blameless Son of God. He was God in the flesh. His character is to be ours. The Lord says of those who believe in Him, "I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people." 2 Cor. 6:16.

    Christ is the ladder that Jacob saw, the base resting on the earth, and the topmost round reaching to the gate of heaven, to the very threshold of glory. If that ladder had failed by a single step of reaching the earth, we should have been lost. But Christ reaches us where we are. He took our nature and overcame, that we through taking His nature might overcome. Made "in the likeness of sinful flesh" (Rom. 8:3), He lived a sinless life. Now by His divinity He lays hold upon the throne of heaven, while by His humanity He reaches us. He bids us by faith in Him attain to the glory of the character of God. Therefore are we to be perfect, even as our "Father which is in heaven is perfect." Jesus had shown in what righteousness consists, and had pointed to God as its source. Now He turned to practical duties. In almsgiving, in prayer, in fasting, He said, let nothing be done to attract attention or win praise to self. Give in sincerity, for the benefit of the suffering poor. In prayer, let the soul commune with God. In fasting, go not with the head bowed down, and heart filled with thoughts of self. The heart of the Pharisee is a barren and profitless soil, in which no seeds of divine life can flourish. It is he who yields himself most unreservedly to God that will render Him the most acceptable service. For through fellowship with God men become workers together with Him in presenting His character in humanity.

    The service rendered in sincerity of heart has great recompense. "Thy Father which seeth in secret Himself shall reward thee openly." By the life we live through the grace of Christ the character is formed. The original loveliness begins to be restored to the soul. The attributes of the character of Christ are imparted, and the image of the Divine begins to shine forth. The faces of men and women who walk and work with God express the peace of heaven. They are surrounded with the atmosphere of heaven. For these souls the kingdom of God has begun. They have Christ's joy, the joy of being a blessing to humanity. They have the honor of being accepted for the Master's use; they are trusted to do His work in His name. "No man can serve two masters." We cannot serve God with a divided heart. Bible religion is not one influence among many others; its influence is to be supreme, pervading and controlling every other. It is not to be like a dash of color brushed here and there upon the canvas, but it is to pervade the whole life, as if the canvas were dipped into the color, until every thread of the fabric were dyed a deep, unfading hue.

    "If therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness." Purity and steadfastness of purpose are the conditions of receiving light from God. He who desires to know the truth must be willing to accept all that it reveals. He can make no compromise with error. To be wavering and halfhearted in allegiance to truth is to choose the darkness of error and satanic delusion. Worldly policy and the undeviating principles of righteousness do not blend into each other imperceptibly, like the colors of the rainbow. Between the two a broad, clear line is drawn by the eternal God. The likeness of Christ stands out as distinct from that of Satan as midday in contrast with midnight. And only those who live the life of Christ are His co-workers. If one sin is cherished in the soul, or one wrong practice retained in the life, the whole being is contaminated. The man becomes an instrument of unrighteousness.

    All who have chosen God's service are to rest in His care. Christ pointed to the birds flying in the heavens, to the flowers of the field, and bade His hearers consider these objects of God's creation. "Are not ye of much more value than they?" He said. Matt. 6:26, R. V. The measure of divine attention bestowed on any object is proportionate to its rank in the scale of being. The little brown sparrow is watched over by Providence. The flowers of the field, the grass that carpets the earth, share the notice and care of our heavenly Father. The great Master Artist has taken thought for the lilies, making them so beautiful that they outshine the glory of Solomon. How much more does He care for man, who is the image and glory of God. He longs to see His children reveal a character after His similitude. As the sunbeam imparts to the flowers their varied and delicate tints, so does God impart to the soul the beauty of His own character. All who choose Christ's kingdom of love and righteousness and peace, making its interest paramount to all other, are linked to the world above, and every blessing needed for this life is theirs. In the book of God's providence, the volume of life, we are each given a page. That page contains every particular of our history; even the hairs of the head are numbered. God's children are never absent from His mind.

    "Be not therefore anxious for the morrow." Matt. 6:34, R. V. We are to follow Christ day by day. God does not bestow help for tomorrow. He does not give His children all the directions for their life journey at once, lest they should become confused. He tells them just as much as they can remember and perform. The strength and wisdom imparted are for the present emergency. "If any of you lack wisdom,"--for today,--"let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him." James 1:5.

    "Judge not, that ye be not judged." Do not think yourself better than other men, and set yourself up as their judge. Since you cannot discern motive, you are incapable of judging another. In criticizing him, you are passing sentence upon yourself; for you show that you are a participant with Satan, the accuser of the brethren. The Lord says, "Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves." This is our work. "If we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged." 2 Cor. 13:5; 1 Cor. 11:31.

    The good tree will produce good fruit. If the fruit is unpalatable and worthless, the tree is evil. So the fruit borne in the life testifies as to the condition of the heart and the excellence of the character. Good works can never purchase salvation, but they are an evidence of the faith that acts by love and purifies the soul. And though the eternal reward is not bestowed because of our merit, yet it will be in proportion to the work that has been done through the grace of Christ. Thus Christ set forth the principles of His kingdom, and showed them to be the great rule of life. To impress the lesson He adds an illustration. It is not enough, He says, for you to hear My words. By obedience you must make them the foundation of your character. Self is but shifting sand. If you build upon human theories and inventions, your house will fall. By the winds of temptation, the tempests of trial, it will be swept away. But these principles that I have given will endure. Receive Me; build on My words.

    "Everyone therefore which heareth these words of Mine, and doeth them, shall be likened unto a wise man, which built his house upon the rock: and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon the rock." Matt. 7:24, 25, R.V.


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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:27 pm

    Take a look at this Phobos portion of Richard Hoagland's website. http://www.enterprisemission.com/Phobos2.html I will continue to be open, yet critical, regarding this sort of thing. I've done a lot of joking about Phobos and the Dracs, but this could be a very serious matter. I prefer to keep treating all of this solar system stuff (SSS) as science-fiction. When I don't really know the truth, I will continue to be somewhat irreverent and sarcastic. We need to keep asking the hard questions. At this point, I'm more interested in Phobos than I am in Nibiru, simply because Phobos has been close to us for so long, and we have had so many spacecraft doing flybys. Actually, the Secret Space Program probably has unconventional craft going to Phobos all the time! There has to be a helluva lot of classified information on Phobos! Hopefully, some of this info will start leaking and seeping out of the agencies who are 'protecting' us from the horrors of the universe, and there probably are legion horrors to look forward to. The Moon and Phobos are probably excellent 'spaceships' to focus upon. They could be 'practice' for Nibiru, and who knows what else is out there? I guess I'm trying to learn how to think clearly, while in a state of petrifying horror, if you know what I mean. I guess I'm practicing for I know not what. There really is no security or reward in this line of voluntary madness. It's really a labor of insanity, but somebody's gotta do it.

    I like what Richard wrote about Phobos, but he speaks as though whoever was within Phobos is no longer there, and that we will be free to plunder and scavenge as we please. I tend to think that Phobos is occupied with those who are related to us, at least on a soul-level, and that the advanced technology is ancient technology, which might be our own. I'm sensing that a lot of technology stealing has occurred, or the stealing of 'fire' from the gods. I further think that a lot of this technology is already in the underground bases, and some of it might be most of the 'modern' technology we use each and every day. Theology and Star Wars should not be minimized when discussing the Moon, Phobos, Iapetus, and Advanced Technology. I worry that we can't even handle the technology which we already possess. I also worry that the nukes and other weapons of mass-destruction might not be under the control of human beings. The military-industrial complex might not have been for the benefit of human beings. Perhaps just the opposite. What if none of the advanced spacecraft, underground bases, and weapons of mass-destruction were intended to benefit the human-race, in any way, shape, or form? What if we really are slaves who are so stupid that we think we are in control, when we are just prisoners on a prison-planet in rebellion??? What if we have built up the solar system real nice - for someone else? What if they don't like to share? Think about it. I have been working toward the establishment of a United States of the Solar System, but I don't know what the hell is really going on. How would I ever know when I was finally being told the true story? If, I have appeared to be somewhat rude and ungrateful, it's because I have a HUGE crisis of confidence. I am so disillusioned and despondant regarding the state of affairs in this solar system, that it will take a series of major miracles to cheer me up. 'Everything is Fine' is going to be a VERY hard sell. I'm expecting nothing but trouble for a very long time. Promising me a rose-garden won't get me to walk happily and stupidly down the primrose path. Trust me.
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    What would be the harm in studying world-government, the solar system, and watching science-fiction - in a non-paranoid and non-conspiratorial frame of mind? Also, what would be the harm in studying reptiles and mammals, without necessarily thinking about reptilian humanoids? This sort of relates to the idea of a University of Solar System Studies and Governance. I'd like to make this whole thing be an academic pursuit, rather than a sneaking around in the mountains with guns, ammo, constitutions, and bandanas - waiting for the Feds, the Chinese, the UN Troops, and the Aliens - if you know what I mean. I continue to like the idea of multidisciplinary studies, rather than getting into a rut on any one subject. I might do some posting, but I think I'm going to lay-off of the Namaste Constititutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System thing for a while. I've ridden that dead-horse for long enough. I'm going to study the Moon, Phobos, the SS, the Jesuits, and Gizeh-Intelligence for a while. That oughtta keep me out of trouble!!!! That oughtta make them stop watching me for a while!!!!!! That oughtta get me off the Red-List!!!!! Here's more. A lot more.

    http://logicbible.blogspot.com/2009/05/evidence-of-war-in-our-solar-system_21.html

    http://logicbible.blogspot.com/search/label/EVIDENCE%20OF%20WAR%20IN%20OUR%20SOLAR%20SYSTEM

    Interstellar War and Genetic Hybridization are sort of at the center of my speculations. I obviously want peace, but not at any price. I'm very concerned about deception by both the good and bad guys and gals. I'd sort of like to get to the truth with all deliberate speed, regardless of how brutal the gang of facts (gang of dracs?) are. I keep getting the impression that we all came here in other than human form (as the Orion Group?), and engaged in genetic hybridization, advanced technology development, and the inevitable rivalries and jealousies, leading to Star Wars in Heaven (or at least in the Solar System). I think that the whole Nazi-Phenomenon might be quite revealing regarding this subject. I think we might be in the middle of a continuing Star War. The SS, the Jesuits, and Gizeh-Intelligence are of interest to me. I smell smoke, but I'm not sure I really want to see the fire. It might be quite blinding. It feels as though we have a somewhat out of control situation, which I would like to see become safe and sane, for all concerned. Here is the truth about Aliens, Nibiru, 2012, Lucifer, and the USSS Namaste aka Phobos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u810PTA5Tc&NR=1 The secret government doesn't want you to know about this! After viewing this explosive video, they will stop at nothing to stop you! You know too much! What's that helicopter doing over my house? Why are they pounding on my front-door! Aaaaaaaaaagh!!!!!!!

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    THE GIZA DEATH STAR STRIKES AGAIN!!

    Imagine being in a room with 100 of the best and brightest individuals in the solar system - discussing solar system governance issues. What might that be like? Is this the way it should be? But how would one ensure that you really had the 100 best and brightest individuals? How would one keep this group from becoming cold, hard, cynical, and corrupt? So many things start out looking so very promising, and then they go to hell in a hurry. Would an Idealized Queen of Heaven really be the best final authority? Imagine dealing with an Uber Competent Queen of Heaven in a Temple Palace on the Moon. What might that be like? If they were really, really good - that would be an exhilarating experience, especially if they were really, really sexy!! But what if they made Bloody Mary look like Mother Teresa? How about Kali or Hathor on a bad day?? Think about it. The human race should be treated with dignity and respect, and be given appropriate levels of responsibility, but does there need to be a theocratic authority of last resort? If people are treated like children, they're going to act like children. But, on the other hand, if they are allowed to run wild, they might exterminate themselves rather quickly. Where is the happy medium or proper balance point in all of this governance madness? I really just want things to operate properly, and for wars, starvation, gross-injustice, etc. to be completely eliminated. The drama should be kept to an absolute minimum. There are probably hundreds of viable models of solar system governance, which would work just fine, but a Theocratically Implemented United States of the Solar System is the one I'm going to run with, until I find something better, and I am open to being shown something better. But it better be really good! This thread is not born of arrogance and superiority, but rather of insecurity and inferiority. I'm really just trying to make sense out of things, so as to try to help make things better for everyone. I like a mixture of the royal model, the servant model, formality, informality, democracy, and theocracy. Even if there has been historical and contemporary governmental malfeasance, a new team might not be much better. I really am trying to understand that which has been hidden from the goyim and commoners. I hate having to keep guessing about all of this, but when I really find out the truth, I might hate myself regarding my historical reincarnational role in the troubles which have plagued this solar system. Ignorance is bliss, right?

    I deal in possibilities and probabilities, and I also mostly connect dots to information which has been revealed by others. But I do this very passively, and only on this little forum. I think most of those who read what I write, know a lot more than I do, even though they rarely comment. I have no credentials, so my credibility is zero. Even if I'm mostly right, the impact is probably close to zero. It's not like I've been given the grand-tour by a group of Dracs and Tall, Long-Nosed Greys, and then told not to tell anyone. I really don't know, but I worry constantly, and I suspect deception and foul-play on a grand scale. And no, it's not worth it, but I do it anyway. It might be of some benefit to someone, somehow, somewhere, somewhen. This is sort of like 'Mr. Smith Goes to Phobos'. This is honestly an attempt to reconstruct a badly shattered faith, but it obviously is not working. They promised me a rose-garden. They lied. I'm not complaining about the primrose path. It's what's at the end of the path that troubles me. The light at the end of the tunnel might be an oncoming magneto-leviton train travelling at mach 2. They never promised me a rose-garden in Avalon or the Mists of Avalon, and I don't expect one here, or on Phobos, for that matter. But the truth of our predicament seems to have been carefully hidden by both the good guys and the bad guys. They all have their reasons. But it seems to me that the time has come for the truth to be tactfully revealed to everyone, regardless of whether satisfactory solutions can be achieved, or not. My continued speculation might prepare myself and others for whatever horrors await us, just around the corner. I'm trying to keep all of this in the realm of science-fiction, and mostly for a morbid sort of entertainment. If someone becomes upset by this, they can be consoled that I'm just a stupid crackpot conspiracy theorist, rather than a credentialed whistleblower. If the Mists of Avalon gets taken down, perhaps we can start the Fog of Phobos...

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    I GET HOW THIS THING WORKS. IF YOU'RE QUALIFIED - YOU'RE COMPROMISED. IF YOU'RE NOT COMPROMIZED - YOU'RE NOT QUALIFIED. RIGHT? RECRUIT 'EM - OR REMOVE 'EM. RIGHT? PRETTY GOOD WAY TO CONTROL THE SITUATION - ISN'T IT? THOSE WHO TALK, DON'T KNOW. THOSE WHO KNOW, DON'T TALK. RIGHT? GO COMPLETELY IGNORANT SCIENCE FICTION WRITERS! THE PIOUS ZOMBIES SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH! I NEED TO SHUT-UP!
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    Regardless of what has transpired throughout history, there is probably no simple and easy way to manage a solar system, past, present, or future, especially when very high technology is involved. I think a lot of people are experiencing future-shock and an information overload. There is a loss of innocence and security. We are hurtling through space on a spaceship filled with weapons of mass-destruction, and who knows what horrors lurk throughout the solar system? We have been lied to by the preachers, politicians, scientists, banksters, et al, and it seems that there is a corrupt and deceptive core to this world and solar system. But what is one to do, when to rule men it is necessary to deceive them? I'm just very worried about all of the problems which seem to have been deliberately perpetrated against humanity. I don't expect things to ever be perfect, but I think they could be a helluva lot better than they have been, or are presently. The principles and concepts presented in this thread could help achieve a better solar system, but I know there are many other ways to improve things. I need to let all of this settle in my soul. I am worried about the possibility of global unrest as we learn more and more upsetting facts and figures relevant to our predicament. I'm really trying to cool-it. Soul-craft needs to be central to societal evolution. I think I might be able to expose a lot of things if I really tried, but I really don't wish to try. I think I've stirred-up enough trouble already. But what really bothers me, is that justice does not seem to be forthcoming regarding all of the corruption and wrongdoing which has been clearly uncovered by thousands of people throughout the world. Covering things up seems to be the top priority of the custodians of the status-quo, rather than making things right. The bad guys and gals are still riding high, and I see no signs that anything is changing for the better. The average person seems to be under attack, rather than the real thieves and violent criminals, who often wear Armani, Prada, and Rolex. Many of the pillars of society appear to be rotten or crumbling, but not many notice because of all the smoke and mirrors. This world really is sick, and trying to change things for the better seems to make one mentally ill, and become a person of concern to the law-enforcement and intelligence-communities. Not giving a damn and being morally-ambiguous seems to work a helluva lot better. The irresponsible seem to be rewarded, and the responsible seem to be punished. Are we witnessing and experiencing the controlled-demolition of the human-race? Anyway, I need to heal, so I'll be in better shape when the excrement really hits the refrigeration system. Perhaps I need to find a good 'Armageddon Trainer'. I'm half-joking and half-serious. A big thank-you to those who frequent these alternative sites, regardless of your point of view, and regardless of whether you work for the secret-government or not. I feel really lost today. The infowar seems to have gotten to me. You know, once we get everything all figured-out, and put all of the bad guys and gals in prison, we will still face huge problems and disappointments. The struggle will be ongoing. I hope things will be better, but I don't expect things to ever be easy and painless. Once again, pain is the cost of doing business in the universe, regardless of who runs the solar system, and regardless of how they do it. Here are a couple of solar system administrators arriving through a portal.

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    There are good and bad people in every race, religion, country, business, and political system. What is the common factor uniting the good people? What is the common factor uniting the bad people? What turns good people into bad people? What turns bad people into good people? Do you see my point? There could be good and bad proponents of a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System. I really wish to maximize the good people and minimize the bad people. But who is qualified to judge who is good and who is bad? What if the judge is bad? Or what if a good judge has bad judgment? I read 'The Communist Manifesto' in high-school, and it had a lot of good points, but look at the horrors of the Soviet Union! I lean strongly toward the U.S. Constitution, but look at the many absurdities and abuses in the history of the United States! Just establishing the ultimate religion, the ultimate government, or the ultimate union of church and state, really doesn't solve the problem. Are we really fighting an unseen and supernatural foe, or is there a problem at the soul-level? Do we all have negative baggage at the soul-level, which rears it's ugly head, to taunt, harass, and possess us? I don't know, but we seem to live in a somewhat creepy solar system, which a New Solar System might not remedy. It might go deeper than my band-aid fix. Think long and hard about what I just said in this post. Again, the ultimate goal, for me at least, is a perfected humanity living in a perfected solar system. But how do we achieve this? Do the ends justify the means? I think that the means determine the ends. Methodology is extremely important. The journey is as important as the destination. In many respects, the journey is the destination. When I spoke with Terence McKenna, he told me that 'if you dream it, you've already done it'. Once again, this thread is a study-guide rather than a manifesto. Use it while you can. I suspect that the internet might become severely restricted in the near future. All is not well in this solar system. All might not be well throughout the universe. I have conceptualized being a solar system administrator, just for the hell of it, and it has frankly scared the hell out of me. So many things could go so very wrong, as I suspect that they have, throughout the history of this solar system. Idealism doesn't necessarily equal effectiveness. Someone who is good today, can be bad tomorrow, and the reverse can be true. I have dealt with individuals who I had very mixed feelings about. They seemed to be a mixture of extreme good and extreme evil. I was, and am, extremely conflicted about this. I have faked being nutty on this thread, but I do feel a bit nutty, most of the time. I feel as if we are presently in the eye of the storm, and that something is a brewing. Hmmmmmmmmmm. What would tone3jaguar say? What would Dr. Who say? Which one? Do you think that Dr. Who might be a bit like Michael / ??????? / Horus / Mithras / Various Pharaohs / Jesus / ????? / ?????!!!???
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    I like Ron Paul, but I don't dislike Bernanke. I do dislike the IRS and the Federal Reserve, but if Bernanke told the truth about what's really going on, I think all hell would break loose. He seems to be keeping the lid on what could potentially be a very explosive situation. The existing system seems to be corrupt and hostile toward the public. I want to End the Fed, and institute a 5% National-Federal Point of Sale Tax on every sale, even stocks and produce. I supose that foreign visitors and food-stamp recipients would not be exempted either. No exceptions. No exemptions. No forms. No kidding. Agents would enforce the point of sale collection of this tax, and the money would go directly to the government, without going through private hands. I realize this would create a problem for the black projects, secret government, secret space program, and underground bases, but the legitimate aspects of these programs could be legitimately and openly funded, without resorting to corrupt taxation, blood-money, and illegal-drug money. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

    Tangentially, I noticed that when I disconnected the internet line to my computer, that the computer fan continued to rev like a sports-car, even when not in active use. Either this phenomenon has nothing to do with being monitored, or there is some sort of wireless or satellite access to my computer. I know I'm paranoid, and I often wear a Ron Paul hat, but I do think that back-door access to computers and 24/7 monitoring of problem people is a reality. I think I'm problematic on the internet, but not in real-life. The devil used to make me do it, but now the internet makes me do it. What if all of our computers are possessed by evil-spirits? Amoeba-like whisps of white-light pass between me and the computer-screen, at least once a month, and that's just when I notice them. As I watch the screen, the screen is probably watching me. The devil used to tempt me, but now I tempt the devil, in sort of a Last Temptation of Satan. I need some sleep, or maybe I just need to get laid.

    On yet another tangent, to me, at least, there is a strange underlying attitude or atmosphere connected with the management and directorial aspects of Hollywood and Showbiz, which is quite different than the finished products on television or on the silver screen. I think these people know a lot, but they don't say a lot, which is understandable. I also think they get fed scripts and information by those who know a helluva lot. Again, this is understandable. But I would like to see showbiz take a much higher road than it has over the past few decades. Some sex and violence is necessary for a realistic story-line, but not the trash the public is bombarded with. The same goes for Las Vegas. A sexy show is one thing, but the escort, call-girl, and prostitution situation is sickening and out of control. It really cheapens that town. I visited there a couple of years ago, and I really don't wish to go back, until they clean things up. I don't oppose the basic concept, but the reality stinks, in my view. In a way, it would be sort of cool to live in Vegas, and work at Area 51, but only if the whole thing were cleaned-up. I don't wish to reinvent the solar system. I just want it cleaned-up and streamlined. I don't want it to be a toilet and a slaughterhouse. The courruption, misery, and degradation in this solar system is indescribable and unimaginable. Consider the butchery and environmental destruction over the past 150 years. This deplorable state of affairs must and will be corrected. Nuff said. What would Bugsy say? Who shot Bugsy Siegel? Notice Virginia Hill's (Bugsy's mistress) brooch. Watch this rather strange video, in light of some of the things I've said on this thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn_HECGW1OM&NR=1 What was Virginia's occupation? What are Hollywood and Vegas sometimes called? Virginia wasn't exactly a virgin, or was she? What would TREEE say? I need to stop, and watch my 3 DVD's called 'Hollywood vs the Mob', after I finish watching 'La Femme Nikita'. http://www.crackle.com/c/La_Femme_Nikita/La_Femme_Nikita/2449081 I don't go much for raw violence, but this movie is quite good, even though it's in French. I really just need to drop this whole thing. I'm really just trying to find peace, for myself and the solar system.

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    What do you think about this? I lean toward Dana's perspective - but I have learned a lot from Sherri and TREEE.

    DANA:

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgv9JAH7HWA&feature=related
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7tyRIySzGk&feature=related
    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZZ1TS_7F60&feature=related
    4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuSEgLPhPPc&feature=related

    TREEE:

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7KlGJvXggo
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7KlGJvXggo
    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJRP3ltMDBk&feature=related

    SHERRI:

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzV4U2kMkjg&feature=related
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZZ7esFbE1E&feature=related
    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5jYlvLtgOM&feature=related

    I so don't want to keep dealing with this madness - but I so don't want the madness to continue. It is interesting to compare these three interesting ladies with each other. It's sort of like a cat-fight, in a way - even though they don't usually refer to each other. Once again - I am not a follower of any of these three - but I do like to keep my eye of them...

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    What if the three interesting ladies are all the same individual? I'm not saying they are, and I could say a lot more, but why would Dana have all of TREEE's passwords, and access to all of her accounts? I like listening to all three, and they know a helluva lot, but I don't trust them. Could this be sort of a test? There is another individual of interest, who I won't name, and I won't say anything further about them. I just think there are a lot of deceptive games being played, for who knows what reasons?! What would Lilith say? I'm both supportive and angry at just about everyone right now. I'm pretty much disgusted with everything. I'm really winding-down my posting activities. I'm going to be reviewing everything I have done, in sort of a private investigative judgment. I think I've been on the right track, but there are huge gaps in my theories and ideas. I also need to get my personal act together. I'm seeing lies everywhere. It seems that even the good-guys fight the bad-guys with white-lies. Perhaps telling the absolute truth is an impossibility. The truth is so overrated, right? Well, I think we should get to the truth of the matter, with all deliberate speed, in a highly tactful manner. I will not yell 'FIRE' in a crowded theater, even if the theater is on fire. I think I've said quite enough on the internet, and I think others are saying quite enough, but the dots are not being properly connected. Also, we seem to want to hurt each other, no matter what. This needs to change.

    Here is yet another interesting website I found while looking at one of TREEE's You Tube videos. http://hellenandchaos.blogspot.com/2010/04/suicidal-attitude-usa-government-is.html It doesn't seem that TREEE has posted anything since last summer. What's going on? If you watch TREEE, you will see someone who appears scatter-brained, but who seems to be able to rattle-off a huge amount of esoteric information. I have no idea whether it's true or not, but it would be difficult for anyone to speak this quickly and abstractly. Nuff said. You figure it out. Here is something from that site:

    USA Government stupidly rushing to build a forward moon base in cooperation with the lunar Dragonians in order to meet ...the alien "threat". Namely in order to try to stop the Andromedians Universal Hierarchy Judges that are about to free us from the criminal cancerous 13.500 years presence of the Lunar "Lord" who has instigated genocides that bloodbathed humanity and the White and Black Race in world wars, civil wars and riots and who is now trying to cause the terminal WWIII of the Dragonian "Armageddon" in order to completely annihilate everyone except the pure yellow Sinese saurianhumo Race.

    -These collusion gangs of Dragonian Spirits, through besotted earthly priesthoods, established all the contrary Religions (888 vs 666, etc), all the contrary Political ideologies (Capitalism, Communism, Nazism, Fascism, Socialism, Democracy, etc.), all the contrary Economical systems, and all the contrary Military pacts (NATO, Shanghai Pact, etc) of our Planet, with end purpose the division and the civil genocides of all races of our planet, and with end purpose the final Genocide of all the Human Races, Nations and States of our Planet, by the armies of the Dragonian pure yellow race Chinese and Koreans in the Chinese "Armageddon" of the Dragonian Judeo-Christian "Holy Scripture", because according to the G.H.REES research, planet Earth became a Theater of War, as a projection of the Space War between the coalition of the "Constellation of Andromeda" and the coalition of the "Hyper Solar System of Sirius", against the "Constellation of Draco".

    -There are attempts to connect G.H.REES with Groups of "New Age Spiritual Mediums" who communicate with the Dragonians like the "Ashtar Command of the non existent Galactic Federation of Light" posing as the returning Andromedian Dodecatheon of Zeus.
    http://hellenandchaos.blogspot.com/2010/04/suicidal-attitude-usa-government-i...

    NesaRA's Descended Demonic Imposter Disasters. (cartoon shapeshifting Draconian fakes) http://nesara.insights2.org/Founders.html

    NESARA 2010

    Cancerous entrapped reincarnation dragonian - lunar policy (cause) and Universal Hierarchy arriving Judges (effect) http://hellenandchaos.blogspot.com/2010/07/entrapped-reincarnation-dragonian-...

    Should Anna Hayes aka Ashayana Deane be a fourth interesting lady? I'm somewhat intrigued by these four interesting ladies, for a variety of reasons. And what about Orgone, for making UFO's crash, and killing aliens, as advocated by Sherry Shriner? I'm somewhat suspicious about the whole Orgone thing. What if Orgone is something the darkside wants spread everywhere, or what if all the alien-haters are marked by using Orgone? What if Orgone attracts evil-spirits? I'm going to say it one more time, be very discerning, and listen to a wide variety of sources. I'm doing the best I can, but I think that at least half of what I speculate about is probably pure, unmitigated popycock. What about Colleen Thomas? She's foxy and easy to listen to, but what is the true source of her voluminous information. I listen, but I am very suspicious of so much of what I listen to on the internet. I think the bs and delusion is rampant, and that it will probably get worse. I continue to be very concerned about the small numbers and lack of active discussion of extremely important topics, on this site and other similar sites. I think this world might be really, really screwed. I don't trust the good-guys or the bad-guys at this point. What if all we are dealing with in this solar system is different factions of the Orion Group. What if all of us are part of the Orion Group, including the humans, hybrids, reptilians, and greys? I'm thinking Orion Group and Sirius A and B, as being 95% of what's going on in this solar system. I think there is SO MUCH DECEPTION AND MANIPULATION. Keep thinking about Occam's Razor, and don't stop thinking about tomorrow.

    I just want to apologize one more time for anything I have posted which has been offensive to anyone. I'm trying to be informal, honest, and sometimes funny. I'm trying to be a pure-soul, but I'm also trying to be a real-soul. I sometimes swear privately, but I never swear at anyone. I am a very, very frustrated person, at this point, and I am trying to think about a lot of things which are difficult to think about, and I am doing so in some very unconventional ways, which make me a lone-ranger with my @#$% hanging out. I really wish to be pure and refined, and live in a rarified spiritual atomosphere, but I am finding that there are very few kindred spirits, or so it often seems. And when one engages in this sort of thinking, there are various and sundry intellectual, spiritual, and emotional challenges, which could resemble a mild case of going nucking futs. Once again, I need to stop.

    I'm going to continue to spend most of my time looking at recent history and solar system governance, rather than focusing on predictions and prophecy. I grew-up in a church which focused on prophecy, and while I still respect the principles and concepts, I think predictions and prophecy can be a mental and spiritual trap. I'm simply going to try to make things better, and just take whatever comes my way, be it good or bad. There might very well be an apocalypse, but I'm not preparing for it, or trying to get a ticket for an underground base, or a ride on a ufo. I'm just going to stay where I am, and go down with the ship, if it does go down. The darkside needs to cease and desist. Game Over.

    The history and philosophy of science might be a beneficial area of research. Again, I have a bad feeling about a lot of traditional theology and about a lot of new age teaching. I'm trying to pick and choose from a very wide variety of topics and sources. I still like the idea of a University of Solar System Studies and Governance. Hold that thought. What do the people at JPL really think? What do the people at the Vatican really think? What do the people at the Pentagon really think? What does the Secret Government really think? What does the World Council of Churches really think? What does Obama really think? What does the Queen really think? What does the Queen of Heaven and God of This World really think? We might be surprised. What does orthodoxymoron really think? You don't wanna know...

    I am trying so very hard to stop posting, and just research. Period. I'm also liking the idea of eliminating the cell-phone and endless hours on the internet, because of the monitoring. I realize that monitoring can still occur, but I still would like to minimize my exposure at this point. This latest crisis of confidence is one more reason for me to go dark, and become an ultra-secret society of one. I can give myself the secret orthodoxymoron handshake, as I watch the end of the world from the comfort of my shallow underground civilian base. I plan to swelter in my shelter. Or perhaps I should say 'Beam me up SaLuSa!'

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    What if at least one branch of the military were based upon 1. The Writings of Sun Tsu. 2. The U.S. Constitution. 3. The Teachings of Jesus? I don't have a problem with military discipline, but I have a HUGE problem with nearly all of the wars, throughout history. I love the air-shows, parades, exercises, etc., but I hate the damn body-bags and injuries. What if everyone got cycled through a military branch, such as the National Guard, where people learned trades, discipline, civil defense, search and rescue, how to properly use weapons, and how to follow instructions under pressure? Do you see my point? The purpose of this branch of the military might be to avoid war, and to make friends around the world. The other branches would be ready to kick @$$, if need be. Civilian gun owners would need to go through this training, and would be part of a well-regulated militia. Do you see what I'm saying? Once again, my posts are intended to make you think, and to then arrive at your own conclusions.

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    I'm thinking mostly in terms of This Solar System, Sirius A & B, and the Orion Group - and that we might all be a part of the Orion Group from Sirius - and that all of the humanoid forms in all of the above might be pretty much the same at the soul-level. I'm seeing mostly a continuing ancient Civil Star War in Heaven, with at least three factions led by Reptilian Queens. (We Three Queens of Orion are Trying to Rule the Heavens Afar.) There might be a lot more to it than this simple view, but why not completely explore the simple view, before making things more complex than they really are? I'm hoping there can be a satisfactory resolution to this madness, very soon, but I certainly don't know how bad things really are. I'm feeling nothing but negativity and dread. This thing doesn't seem to be even close to being over. I have repeatedly gotten my hopes up, but now I'm preparing for a very long and hard winter. Once again, hope springs eternal. Once again, I don't necessarily hate scales and tails, or suffer from Phobos-Phobia, but I don't know enough to make proper judgments and determinations. Consider reading and watching a lot of science-fiction to prepare for a wide variety of possible scenarios. I don't think we have a clue about what's really going to happen in the future, if we even have a future. I wouldn't count on anything. I think we all need to become a lot tougher and resiliant, but in a kinder and gentler manner. We should be prepared for just about anything, and I mean anything. I still think it would be cool to live in a non-militaristic version of the Stargate SG-1 base, which might be sort of a think-tank, with perhaps a couple of dozen team-members. An old decommissioned missile silo might be used for such a purpose. I don't like all of the machine-gunning in SG-1 episodes, but I like the discussions they get into, and I like the team members.
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    What about a Calculus-Based United States of the Solar System? What would Reimann say? Would this create a derivative scandal? What about the derivative of X, with no respect for Y? dx de heck with it! Seriously. What mathematical models might we use in a Cray, to test competing political and religious solar systems? Resource allocation spreadsheets might be interesting. What about modelling Asteroid Wars? How many Asteroid Drones are in this Solar System? What about deriving the Galactic Wave Equation? What would Schroedinger say? What would his cat say? I was a helluva lot smarter when I was a little child. I used to imagine flying through the solar system in a one-child ufo, that I designed and built myself. I imagined designing personal computers and frictionless magnetic bearings, and I looked at the solar system through my little telescope, with innocent wonder. But then I grew-up and got really mean, stubborn, and stupid. I'm trying to get nice and smart again, but now I'm going crazy, and this Disneyland of the Gods E-Ticket Ride is almost over. Now what do I do? What would John Keel say? What would the Mothman say? Is God going to hit the reset button, and reboot the universe? Perhaps it just needs a new operating system or a software upgrade. Has technology made us safer and happier? What would Palmer Joss say? What would Ellie say? What would Rachel say? What would Mr. Haddon say? If we had ten times as many WMD's as we have now, would we be ten times as safe? Put that in your Cray, and model it. Or perhaps it might be better to smoke the peace-pipe. Maybe if we all got a bong, we'd all get along. Perhaps the thurifer should replace the incense with some Maui-Wowie! Or maybe a little angel dust in the refrigeration system would bring us face to face with the Almighty, and without a Mediator! Would the excrement contact the blower? Perhaps we should eliminate 90% of the least beneficial technology and industrialization, and only implement the most beneficial new technology and industrialization. Why should we bury ourselves with the work we dig? Can you dig it? Solar System Governance is an Abstract. It's a Human Construct. What would Azrael say? How much truth is there in 'Legion' and 'Dogma'? What would Gabriel, Lucifer, and Michael say? WWJD? Should Jesus be called 'Jesus'? Who is responsible for creating Astro-Theology? Something fishy's going on. Do Draconian Reptilians have Fish-Heads? What would the Dogons say? What would Robert Temple say? What would the Nommos say? What would the Pope say? Siriusly!

    Why is the Woman in Scarlet called 'The Whore of Babylon'? Because she babbles on and on and on and on. What would TREEE say? Tehuti is important, and so are tatoos! Don't get stung by Serqet! She's a real mother! She might give you the kiss of death and the last supper. I don't know why I'm doing this, and you probably wish that I weren't doing this. Perhaps I should stop. Or maybe I should talk about sex. What would Raven say? Who invented sex? What would Michael say? What would Horus say? What would Mithras say? Was and is Jesus archangelic and pharaonic? Was Jesus black? Was Jesus Annunaki? Did Jesus get fired? Did he get blacklisted? What is the Nature of Christ, at the soul-level? Fully God and Fully Man? Or Truly God and Truly Man? Will Jesus return? Did he leave? How many Incarnations have there been? Incarnation or Reincarnation? Example or Substitute? Is the Substitutionary Atonement Ethical? Is cleansing the universe of sin and sinners really mass murder? Is Mass Murder Ever Ethical? What would Joseph Fletcher say? Is War a Sin? What would Karl Menninger say? Is the Latin Mass a Human Sacrifice? Who gave Adolph Hitler and Eugenio Pacelli their marching orders? What would Heinrich Himmler say? What would the Jesuit General say? What would the Bavarian Illuminati say? What would the Teutonic Zionists say? What would the Freemasons say? What would the Queen of Heaven and God of This World say? What would the Moving Finger Write? Babylon is Fallen - and can't get up? Are we fiddling, while Rome burns? I should stop, drop, and roll another joint. Actually, I've never smoked anything in my life. Not even a fish. I've never had a single drink of beer or wine (except for communion wine - Port Tawny), but still you judge me as unworthy. Perhaps I should've become an Unnecessary Surgeon or a Lying Leader in the Synagogue of Satan. That wouldn't make me righteous, but at least I'd be respectable and presentable. Appearances are Everything, aren't they? What would Joe Kennedy say? Now I really do need to stop, and finish rewatching 'Avatar'. What did James Cameron know, and when did he know it? What was Steven afraid of? Was Stephen stoned, drunk, or just stupid? What about you? What's your excuse? What would Bartleby say? What would Loki do? Hocus Pocus Dominocus - the Spirits are About to Speak! This might be a good time to cover your ears. Now I shall improvise a fugue. As the voices enter, one by one - the people leave, one by one. Open the doors of the church! Twelve O'Clock, and All's Well!!! At least that's what you think! What about the secretary who gave her boss a raise??!! That temptress from hell!! They're both gonna burn!! Fire!! Fire!! Your Pants Were on Fire!! Your Hearts Were Filled With Burning Desire!! Sex as Sin is Good for Business, When Salvation is For Sale. Indulgences by PayPal. Visa and MasterCard (formerly BankAmeriCard) Accepted!! What would Eric John Phelps say? Pretty fly for a white-guy!! What would Noodles say? The Offspring is the Spawn of Satan!! New Solar System Without End. Orthodoxymoron. Completely Ignorant Fool, or Wave of the Future?? I had you fooled, didn't I?!

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:41 pm

    Some things are becoming a lot clearer to me, and it's not a pretty picture. It has to do with how the world has really worked, over the past thousand years, in general, and over the past hundred years, in particular. I won't spell it out in this post, but I desire that the human race learn the truth in as gentle and tactful of a manner as possible. I doubt that things will go smoothly, but I'd like us to move on to bigger and better things as soon as possible. Take a closer look at World War II, and the Nazi Phenomenon, especially in relation to the Vatican and Gizeh Intelligence. I'm tending to think that Pope Pius XII and Adolph Hitler basically followed orders, and that they might not have had a lot of choice in the matter. I don't wish to excuse the horrors of the Nazis, or the silence of the Pope, but I don't think they were in the driver's seat. This doesn't get them off the hook, but I think it helps to explain a lot of things. I'm presently interested in Heinrich Himmler and the Jesuit General as being the links between Gizeh Intelligence and the Vatican and Nazis. I'm still grasping at straws, and very little is really known about the so called 'Gizeh Intelligence', but it seems that is where the planning, financing, technology, and authority originated. But what the heck do I know? I wasn't there. Or was I? Who knows? It just seems that Gizeh Intelligence, the Bavarian Illuminati, the Freemasons, Teutonic Zionism, the Jesuits, and the SS somehow had control of the Vatican and the Nazi Party - or so it seems - and that the madness continued after the war, throughout the world, but especially in South America, Antarctica, and the United States. I think this thing is really, really bad, sad, and messy. Once again, I'm just scratching the surface, and I need to do a helluva lot of research before I can say anything with any authority at all. Lest anyone be too self-righteous, if some of us had been in the shoes of the bad guys and gals, we might've been just as bad as them, or worse. This post is not a negative reflection on the German People or the Faithful Members of the Roman Catholic Church. I just think all of this is a continuation of an Ancient Civil War in Heaven, which seems to be ongoing, to this very day. Hopefully, things can be resolved soon.

    Ancient Technology seems to be in the middle of all of this, and I wonder where Nicola Tesla really got all of that very advanced technology? The Vatican Library, or somewhere beneath Rome? Was ancient destructive technology brought back to life, after laying dormant for thousands of years? If so, should it have continued to lay dormant. I tend to think so. I don't know which way to jump, regarding what I'm learning, but again, I really wish to move on as quickly as possible. Obviously, I want justice to be served, but let him who is without sin cast the first stone. I'm leaning toward the idea that very, very few of us are really good. Some of us might be shocked and horrified when we learn how bad we've been in previous lives. I am extremely worried about my reincarnational history. I'm disgusted with my present life, but I'm almost frantic with fear regarding my potential misdeeds in previous lives, going back into ancient Egypt, and even before that. The rabbit hole might be a bottomless pit. I think people like Eric John Phelps, Jordan Maxwell, Joseph Farrell, Richard Hoagland, Alex Collier, Alex Jones, and Jim Marrs know a helluva lot about all of this, and if Bill Cooper were still alive, he would know a helluva lot as well. I'm hoping that Bill is still alive, and that his death was faked so he could go underground. I think there are a lot of good Jesuits and Alphabet Agents who are trying to do the right thing in relation to this, as well. Anyway, when the general public starts learning the truth, I think a lot of them are going to literally go insane. Please exercise extreme caution in all of this. Firings, divorces, suicides, murders, riots, and people going completely insane - could result from some very upsetting information being spread in an irresponsible and insensitive manner. The truth should not be supressed, but it needs to be handled properly. I still like the idea of a United States of the Solar System, as being one way of dealing with the horrible situation we're in. But I'm not exactly shouting this from the top of one of the Seven Hills of Rome. There's a time and a place for everything. Right now, I can't seem to stop crying.

    Consider again, this interesting Alex Jones and Jordan Maxwell clip on Teutonic Zionsim. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlCSw8euO68 Could Ancient Egypt and the Teutonic Knights be the key to a lot of things? How do the Archangels fit into all of this? Who knows what this might lead to? The True Raiders of the Lost or Stolen Ark? What was really under Jerusalem? Ancient Architecture? Ancient Music? Ancient Texts? Ancient Technology? What if the Ark of the Covenant was a UFO filled with Ancient Knowledge and Wisdom from Sirius? Fire Stolen from the Gods? Is this where the Nazi Advanced Technology orginated? Sirius A = Zionism = The Old World Order = Gabriel? Sirius B = Teutonic Zionism = The New World Order = Lucifer? This Solar System = The New Earth = The New Solar System = Michael? Did Gabriel and Lucifer steal this solar system from Michael? Have they been fighting over it and exploiting it for thousands of years? I'm not sure I really want to go down this rabbit-hole. I might not be able to stop screaming. The horror. How does the rest of the universe view what's been going on here in this solar system? Is the Orion Group a Sirius Issue? Are all of us part of the Orion Group, whether we are human, grey, or reptilian? Are our souls identical? Are our souls interdimensional reptilian? Is that why we have a reptilian portion of our brains? If all of the above were true, would the general public go insane, or would they just say 'well I'll be damned' and move on? I don't know, but 87% of us might go nuts. Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

    Take a look at this interesting, but troubling, link. "Is War a Ritual Human Sacrifice?" by Acharya S. http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/warritual.html I am particularly interested in the possibility of the origins of Teutonic Zionism occurring in the Ninth Century A.D. This could be key to the history of the world for the past twelve-hundred years. Could this be the origin of the so-called 'New World Order'? I don't know, but I think this might be extremely important. I hate to say it, but Human Sacrifice and Teutonic Zionism are of special interest to me presently, and not in a good way. This seems to open a can of worms which I'm not sure I really wish to deal with. Here is the most pertinent part of the linked article by Acharya S:

    Teutonic/Zionist Connection

    Despite the fact that "the Jews" of Palestine were nearly driven to extinction during the first and second centuries CE, when the Christian tale was beginning to be formulated in large part to preserve Judaism/Israel, their numbers recovered enough to continue the play for supremacy. And there was a significant number of Jews outside Palestine as well, some of whom evidently continued their ancient barbaric rites. The noted historian Edward Gibbon wrote in History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire:

    From the reign of Nero to that of Antonius Pius [80-160 CE], the Jews discovered a fierce impatience of the dominion of Rome, which repeatedly broke out in the most furious massacres and insurrections. Humanity is shocked at the recital of the horrid cruelties which they committed in the cities of Egypt, of Cyprus, and of Cyrene, where they dwelt in treacherous friendship with the unsuspecting natives... In Cyrene they massacred 220,000 Greeks; in Cyprus 240,000; in Egypt, a very great multitude. Many of these victims were 'sawed asunder,' according to a precedent in which David had given the sanction of his example. The victorious Jews devoured the flesh, licked the blood, and twisted the entrails like a girdle around their bodies. (vol. 2, chap. XVI, part I)

    Later, through the conversion of an entire kingdom, that of the Khazars, Judaism continued on and, as before, was not racially determinate, since the Khazars seem to have been both Caucasians and Asiatics, who subsequently became known as the Ashkenazis or Europeans Jews. According to Genesis 10, "the Ashkenazis" were not Semites but Japhethites, or Caucasians.

    In the 9th century Zionists (Jews) and Teutons (Germans) allegedly collaborated against the Catholic Church and established a strange partnership linked by their respective priesthoods' secret and sickening sacrificial rituals. This group was alleged over the centuries to have engaged in human/child sacrifice, an accusation, founded or unfounded, that gave many rulers in Europe the excuse to expel "the Jews" from a number of countries, including from England by Edward I in 1290, as well as from Spain by Isabella and Ferdinando.

    The rebuttal of those accused or expelled was that these rulers simply wished to seize Jewish assets. Nevertheless, what had been done in ancient times by both Jews and Gentiles, i.e., the sacrifice of both animals and humans by immolation and by slitting the neck and sprinkling the blood upon the congregation, was alleged to be continuing in the priesthoods of the Teutons and the Zionists. The Zionist elite, in fact, had been accused many times over the centuries of using the "common Jews" as well as "Christian children" as pawns and sacrificial victims in its quest for world domination, a quest outlined in the Old Testament, the Jewish Apocrypha and the Talmud. That the Israelite priesthood used its "own people" as sacrificial victims is admitted in the Old Testament, in which not only foreigners but "the Jews" are slaughtered by their handlers to propitiate the angry, jealous Yahweh (Ezekiel 9, et al.).


    There seems to be a sort of "Praying Warrior" motif, where blood is shed in religious-ritual (symbolically or literally) and in warfare and persecution. I get the picture of warriors dressed in uniforms or armor, participating in religious-rituals (such as the Mass) which involve human-sacrifice (symbolically or literally) - and then going into battle, where they literally shed the blood of human-beings. What is it with "Blood and Death"? The core of Judeo-Christianity seems to involve "Blood, Death, and Sacrifice". Is this simply a reflection of the evolution of primitive humanity, or are we dealing with the appeasement of very-real, and very-cruel, vengeful-deities? Perhaps Jonathan Edwards wasn't too far off when he delivered the fiery sermon, 'Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God'. I once heard a Protestant Minister say that very few knew how much it really cost to keep light on the Earth. He didn't elaborate, but I'm beginning to fear the worst, concerning the Gods and Goddesses of Eden.

    Consider the possible relationships between Sirius, Aldebaran, the Creation of Male and Female Human Physicality, the Original Sin, the Unpardonable Sin, Ancient Technology and Wisdom, Atlantis, Babylon, Egypt, Greece, Rome, Israel, Christians, Catholics, Zionists, Teutonic Zionists, Teutonic Knights, Jesuits, Masons, Bavarian Illuminati, Rothschilds, Windsors, Rockefellers, Monarchy, Papacy, SS, Nazis, Gizeh Intelligence, Secret Government, Osiris, Isis, Horus, Mithras, Jesus, Gabriel, Michael, Lucifer, Amen Ra, Reptilians, Greys, Dracs, Hybrids, the Old World Order, the New World Order, Earth-Changes, and Armageddon.

    I have no animosity in all of this. I might even be engaging in some sort of a sub-conscious self-incrimination. I simply wish to learn the truth of our existence, in a rather passive and admittedly unscholarly manner. A lot of this in intuitive and speculative, for me anyway, so consider all of this with a sea of salt.
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    The following letter was supposed to have been written by Eric John Phelps, but I don't know this for certain, but it certainly connects some dots. Eric is an amazing researcher and speaker. He has more courage and brains than I can even imagine. http://crashrecovery.org/teutonic/eric-on-teutonic-knights.html

    Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:33:45 -0500
    From: Eric Jon Phelps
    To: Robert M. Stockmann
    Cc: skolnick@ameritech.net, cloak.dagger@gmail.com
    Subject: Re: a new conspiracy has been shown up

    Dear Robert,

    Thank you for the thought regarding the Teutonic Knights. As you must
    know, the German Teutonic Knights, with uniforms being identical in their
    colors with Bavarian Roman Catholic Heinrich Himmler's SS, "Order of the
    Death's Head" (black trimmed with silver), were the Pope's crusaders led
    by Emperor Frederick Barbarossa. The Teutonic Knights always executed
    the will of its master in Rome and were never anti-Rome, or truly
    Protestant. Their rule was Augustinian; Himmler's rule was that of the
    Jesuits.

    To assert that the German Teutonic Knights descended into the hands of
    the Protestant Lutheran Prussians is a popish error. We must remember
    that the Knights were formally disbanded by Napoleon, the Roman Catholic
    Masonic Jesuit-advised Avenger for the Order, in 1806; they were then
    revived under the name of the New Templars by occult Freemason George
    Lanz in 1912, that former Roman Catholic priest who met Hitler at Lambach
    Abbey when Hitler was a boy; the priest who openly left the priesthood,
    openly became a Lutheran, openly turned anti-Jesuit, yet remaining a
    Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor in accordance with the bloody Jesuit Oath.

    After the death of Freemason List, Freemason Lanz was the immediate
    influence upon both Hitler and Himmler, those Roman Catholic Jesuit
    Temporal Coadjutors who destroyed Protestant Prussia via their
    connections with Jesuit-trained Joseph Stalin and his Jesuit-ruled
    "headhunters," the NKVD. Yes, the head of the NKVD and also a Lubyanka
    General was the Jesuit, who aided Stalin in the murder of his (the
    Jesuit's) Jewish wife, Alexander N. Poskrebyshev.

    The Order then carried out the designs of Lanz with regard to the Jews of
    Europe and Western Russia, along with the mass-murder of 20 million
    "heretic" Orthodox Russian Christians---aided by Stalin himself. After
    the war Himmler and his Teutonic Knights were saved by Allied
    Intelligence---the British SIS and the American OSS, both led by the
    Knights of Malta---via Pope Pius XII's Vatican Ratlines.

    Meanwhile, the apostate Lutheran morphine drug addict and non-member of
    the Teutonic SS, Prussian Herman Goering, paid with his life for
    resisting Hitler's all-powerful Jesuit secretary, Martin Bormann. But
    the obedient ex-Lutheran Bormann, disguised as a Jesuit, escaped to South
    America via Bishop Hudal's Ratline. His, Adolf Martin, son became a
    Jesuit "missionary" to the Congo.

    In conclusion, the Jesuit Order rules the Papacy; it rules all secret
    societies especially the Luciferian Masonic orders. It ruled Himmler and
    his Teutonic Knights of the SS. Today, it rules the Knights of Malta
    governing the CIA to the end that the NWO will be centered in that
    Antichrist in Rome---the Pope who pretends to be Jesus Christ in the
    flesh, the priest of Jerusalem---Melchisedec. To this no Bible-believing
    Protestant or Baptist Calvinist would ever submit.

    I trust this is helpful.

    Sincerely in Faith,

    Brother Eric

    There's more. A lot more. http://crashrecovery.org/teutonic/eric-on-teutonic-knights.html

    To get a good understanding about who the Teutonic Knights actually were since the early mideaval ages, checkout Chapter I "The Teutonic Knights and Germany" inside John Beaty's "Iron Curtain Over America". In short, throughout history, the German Teutonic Knights were the only Chivalric Order who could withstand the Pagan Barbarian's from far east Europe, preventing Germany and other European nation states falling down into a Sodom and Gomorrah alike "Civilization".

    The author of The Iron Curtain Over America has written, or collaborated on, a dozen books. His texts have been used in more than seven hundred colleges and universities, and his historical novel, Swords in the Dawn, published originally in New York, had London and Australian editions, and was adopted for state-wide use in the public schools of Texas. His education (M.A., University of Virginia; Ph.D., Columbia University; post-graduate study, University of Montpellier, France), his travel in Europe and Asia, and his five years with the Military Intelligence Service in World War II rounded out the background for the reading and research (1946-1951) which resulted in "The Iron Curtain Over America".

    The Pope [Urban II, at Clermont, France, on November 26, 1095] crossed
    the Alps from schism-torn Italy and, Frenchman himself, stirred the
    people of France as he rode among them. In the chapel at Clermont, he
    first swayed the men of the church who had answered his summons to the
    meeting; then, surrounded by cardinals and mail-clad knights on a
    golden-canopied platform in a field by the church, he addressed the
    multitude:

    You are girded knights, but you are arrogant with pride. You
    turn upon your brothers with fury, cutting down one the other.
    Is this the service of Christ? ... Come forward to the defense
    of Christ.

    The great Pope gave his eager audience some pertinent and inspiring
    texts from the recorded words of Jesus Christ:

    For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there
    am I in the midst of them.
    (The Gospel According to Saint Matthew, Chapter XVIII, Verse 20)

    And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or
    sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands,
    for my namees sake, shall receive a hundredfold, and shall
    inherit everlasting life.
    (Saint Matthew, Chapter XIX, Verse 29)

    To the words of the Saviour, the Pope added his own specific promise:

    Set forth then upon the way to the Holy Sepulcher ... and fear
    not. Your possessions here will be safeguarded, and you will
    despoil the enemy of greater treasures. Do not fear death, where
    Christ laid down His life for you. If any should lose their
    lives, even on the way thither, by sea or land, or in strife
    with the pagans, their sins will be requited them. I grant this
    to all who go, by the power vested in me by God.
    (Harold Lamb, op. cit., p. 42).

    Through the long winter, men scanned their supplies, hammered out
    weapons and armor, and dreamed dreams of their holy mission. In the
    summer that followed, they "started out on what they called the voyage
    of God" (Harold Lamb, op. cit., p. VII) As they faced East they shouted
    on plains and in mountain valleys, "God wills it."

    The third body of medieval military-religious Crusaders was the
    Knighthood of the Teutonic Order. This organization was founded as a
    hospital in the winter of 1190-91 -- according to tradition, on a small
    ship which had been pulled ashore near Acre. Its services came to be
    so highly regarded that in March, 1198, "the great men of the army and
    the [Latin] Kingdom raised the brethren of the German Hospital of St.
    Mary to the rank of an Order of Knights" (Encyc. Brit., Vol. XXI, pp.
    983-984). Soon, however, the Order found that "its true work lay on the
    Eastern frontiers of Germany" (Encyc. Brit., Vol. XXI, p. 894). Invited
    by a Christian Polish Prince (1226) to help against the still
    unconverted Prussians, a body of knights sailed down the Vistula
    establishing blockhouses and pushed eastward to found Koenigsburg in
    1255. In 1274, a castle was established at Marienburg and in 1309 the
    headquarters of the Grand Master was transferred (Encyc. Brit., Vol.
    XIV, p. 886) from Venice to this remote border city on the Nojat River,
    an eastern outlet of the Vistula (The Rise of Brandenburg-Prussia to
    1786, by Sidney Bradshaw Fay, Henry Holt and Company, New York, 1937).

    It was to the Teutonic Order that the Knight of Chaucers famous
    Canterbury Tales belonged (Sections from Chaucer, edited by Clarence
    Griffin Child, D. C. Heath & Co., Boston, 1912, p. 150). Chauceras
    lines (prologue to the Canterbury Tales, II., 52- 53):

    Ful ofte tyme he hadde the bord bigonne
    Aboven alle naciouns in Pruce

    tell us that this Knight occupied the seat of Grand Master, presumably
    at the capital, Marienburg, and presided over Knights from the various
    nations assembled in "Puce" (Prussia) to hold the pagan East at bay. In
    his military-religious capacity Chaucer's Knight "fought for our faith"
    in fifteen battles, including those in Lithuania and in Russia
    (Prologue, II., 54-63).
    The Teutonic Knights soon drove eastward, or converted to Christianity,
    the sparsely settled native Prussian people, and assumed sovereignty
    over East Prussia. They encouraged the immigration of German families
    of farmers and artisans, and their domain on the south shore of the
    Baltic became a self-contained German state, outside the Holy Roman
    Empire. The boundaries varied, at one time reaching the Gulf of Finland
    (see Historical Atlas, by William R. Shepherd, Henry Holt and Company,
    New York, 1911, maps 77, 79, 87, 99, 119). "The hundred years from 1309
    to 1409 were the Golden Age of the Teutonic Knights. Young nobles from
    all over Europe found no greater honor than to come out and fight under
    their banner and be knighted by their Grand Master" (Fay, op. cit., pp.
    32-33). As the years passed, the function of the Teutonic Knights as
    defenders, or potential defenders, of the Christian West remained
    unchanged.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:45 pm

    What about mostly studying materials which are at least five years old, but less than five hundred years old, so as to be able to gain a proper perspective, yet still be able to verify sources, and know something about authorship? Wouldn't this help to avoid sensationalism, and also avoid having to deal with fragments, obscure ancient languages, or the deciphering of hieroglyphics? 1511 AD to 2006 AD? Just a thought. I like to read the Bible, but how do I really know that what I'm reading is accurate, or that it is what the original authors actually wrote? I continue to be interested in idealistic theology, but I have become somewhat pessimistic regarding using the Bible as a modern infallible standard. Anyway, the infowar will be ongoing and problematic. I'm going to see what sort of mileage I can get out of Responsibility and the U.S. Constitution, at least as being a frame of reference or a base camp. I don't wish to be harsh and narrow, but I do wish to avoid becoming lost at sea, or to avoid beating upon the rocks of who knows what absurdities? There is so much information to wade through. How should we properly sort everything out? If you don't stand for something, you tend to fall for anything. If one does not believe in God, the problem is that they will then be much more likely to believe in just about anything. I like thinking about a Vatican-Based Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System, regardless of where it should be headquartered, or who should preside over it. At this point, it is a mental and spiritual exercise for me. It's an ultimate neo-reformation, if you will. Admittedly, the problems connected with implementation and application would be huge. It might not work, but thinking about it might help us to determine what would work. I'm finding it to be a helpful starting point. Look at the pluralistic mass of information I have collected in connection with these few words!!! Once again, take this thread as a whole, when considering the possibility of a United States of the Solar System, based solidly on a foundation of Responsibility. Sorry for the repetition, but theme and variation is a useful tool, in music and politics!! It sounds as though my threads are about to go up in smoke because of copyright and forum issues. I smell a rat, but what do I know? I continue to believe that I don't have things figured-out at all. I'm just making this up as I go completely insane. Is this an alien with a bong filled with orgone water??!!! What fate Omoroca? How does this dude blow his nose? What would Sherry Shriner say??? I'm going to listen to six hours straight of Sherry Shriner to try to get my pius-zombie head together...

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    Good Evening Solar System Citizens,

    One more time, and perhaps one last time, I truly wish for things to work out well for all concerned, but I do not subscribe to 'anything goes' or to 'peace at any price'. I'm just not a 'fire and brimstone' kind of guy, like Loki. I think a lot of beings need to be incarcerated and reeducated, but with dignity and respect. I obviously don't know the true state of affairs, and when I learn what's really been going on, I might have a very different attitude. I continue to feel that I am watched and attacked on a supernatural-level 24/7. I'm paranoid, because they really are out to get me. I can visualize what I think has been going on, but I can't articulate it very well, and if I could, I probably wouldn't live very long. If this forum gets shut-down or severely restricted, I doubt that I'll join another forum. This has been an adventure, but I had hoped that it would be a shared adventure. I'll probably read more books, watch more documentaries, spend more time in nature, clean and repair my house, straighten-up my finances, write and perform some popular music, and possibly write some science-fiction. In a future-life, I'd like to participate in solar system governance, but I don't think it's going to happen in this life. This has pretty much been a wasted life, in my view. Better luck next time. Right? Thank-you Carol, Mercuriel, All Forum Members, and Secret Admirers for everything you have said and done. Thank-you Queen of Heaven and God of This World for not striking me dead as I have attempted to figure this mess out. But who knows, you might've tried! Perhaps you even succeeded in some of my past lives! I think I might've met you, or a couple of your representatives, over the past few years, but I'm not really sure at this point. If you want to take this tempest in a teapot to the next level, you know where I live, work, and walk. Some of your minions have probably even watched me in the bathroom. Too much information, right? Also, beware of those who talk fast and vibrate quickly, and who are clean, neat, smooth, give you what you want, tell you what you want to hear, and have all the answers. I once spoke with an attorney, who told me that if Jesus showed-up, the churches wouldn't know what to do with him. I think they might crucify the real Jesus (figuratively or literally) and try to create a Christ in their own image, and after their likeness, for presentation to the world, which the real Jesus would have nothing to do with. Take a very close look at who has followed the actual Red-Letter Teachings of Jesus, historically and presently. You might be surprised at what you find, or don't find. I think there might be a lot of weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth in the final reckoning, and that the genuine return of Jesus might be a great disappointment to the majority of the human race. What would William Miller say? I will continue to argue against eternal capital punishment, but I don't know the true and complete story. Seeing everything in it's panoramic horror, might make me think very differently. I've never been more conflicted about this subject than I am right now. Looking beneath the surface of politics and religion is not for the timid or the faint of heart. This subject has made me question myself, more than anyone or anything else. I'm going to be a lot quieter and more thoughtful in the coming months and years. There are thoughts about the subject of this thread which I don't dare print. I almost don't dare think them. My reflection on life, the universe, and everything is scaring the hell out of me, or is it that I am angering the powers of darkness, and they're trying to shoot me down? I think I'm mostly shooting myself down. I'm looking for resolution, but I'm mostly finding questions and conflict. I frankly don't know which way to jump.

    What do you think about restoring most ancient ruins, and other notable structures? What about finishing unfinished grand architectural building projects? What about building grand architectural designs which were never built? Wouldn't this save a lot of time and money? Wouldn't the finished products be grand and monumental? Might this include structures throughout the solar system? Modern construction methods and innovations could be incorporated into the historical designs. Would people be prejudiced by the political, religious, and philosophical associations connected with the buildings? This might be a very difficult hurdle to overcome. I guess I'm a sucker for the grand and glorious, but often this sort of thing has been connected with questionable philosophies and fund-raising methods. Could this endeavor be conducted on a very high road? There would be a lot of Babylonian, Egyptian, Grecian, and Roman themes, wouldn't there? But wouldn't this complement a lot of the existing grand and glorious architectural wonders of the world? Elsewhere in this thread, I suggested the installation of an 1875 design Cavaille-Coll pipe-organ in St. Peter's. I'm a sucker for pipe-organs too, even though they are often not well matched with the buildings they are located in. There are a lot of Bentley Organs in Volkswagen Churches! You organists know what I'm talking about! Don't read too much into this paragraph. I lean heavily toward natural everything, and I think the best building is no building, as long as the weather cooperates! But I do admire human creativity, which sometimes manifests in the form of beautiful and grand buildings. I'd really like the solar system to be a New Garden of Eden, which only retains, say 50% of the existing buildings. I'd like to see a lot of the new construction occur underground. Probably most of this hypothetical underground construction would be quite shallow, and people would be able to easily come to the surface. I just want this world and solar system to be picture-perfect! Does anyone have a problem with that???

    In the biblical record, Adam lived to the ripe, old age of 939 earth years, but in a very short time period, people were lucky to make it to 100. What the hell happened? That can't possibly be blamed on 'The Fall' can it? Then, 'God' was sorry that 'he' created 'man', and committed genocide, nearly wiping-out the entire human race. In Babylon, 'God' seemed to forbid a One World Government and the Unification of Humanity. I am not a slave to the biblical scrolls, but I do think they contain important clues. Has anyone read any Ralph Ellis books, such as 'Jesus: Last of the Pharaohs'? How about any of Gerald Massey's books, such as 'The Historical Jesus and the Mythical Christ'? Both authors focus upon the intersection of Biblical Studies and Egyptology. Does anyone have any thoughts regarding Biblical Egyptology? What about Michael / Horus / Mithras / Jesus / ??? as being a reincarnating archangel, or even a reptilian queen on a soul-level? Perhaps a forbidden genetic hybridization program resulted in an undesirable and threatening product of conception, namely the human race. I am interested in idealistic government and religion, and even the constructive combining of the two, but I'm not seeing much of a solid historical foundation for this sort of thing. Is the human race predestined to defeat, by divine design? I seem to be out of synch with just about everyone, regardless of whether they are good, bad, wise, simple, human, or otherwise. I have the deepest reverence and respect for my highest conceptualization of the Creator God of the Universe, but I'm mostly seeing God in the Creation, the Teachings of Jesus, and the Divinity Within Humanity. Most everything else is most disappointing. Am I getting warm, or am I just cracking-up?

    You might find this interesting. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2779-eric-jon-phelps Of course, as always, I can't verify most of the controversial material I subject myself to, so I just mumble on this little site. Consider the Knights Templar, the Teutonic Knights, the Jesuits, the Freemasons, the Bavarian Illuminati, Gizeh Intelligence, the Nazis, the Alphabet Agencies, the New World Order, and the Secret Government as having a lot in common. Again, no evidence, no proof, just hunches and speculation. Old World Order vs New World Order? Or, are they two sides of the same coin? Bad@$$ vs Bad@$$? If the hated New World Order is defeated, do we then get stuck with the Old World Order? Are both of our options really bad? Sometimes I really wonder if we might be in more trouble than we can possibly imagine. Would a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System be a workable alternative to the madness we are in, or would the same old bastards just keep right on ruling from the shadows? I'm trying to toughen myself up by watching old episodes of 'Nikita'. http://www.hulu.com/search?query=nikita&st=1&fs=null I'm really a kumbaya kinda guy, but do we live in a kumbaya kinda universe? Sometimes I really wonder.

    Take a look at this documentary on the Dead Sea Scrolls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzLfZgzuN-s I continue to experience a profound and devastating crisis of faith, but I also continue to believe that biblical and theological studies are foundational for bigger and better things. Don't just write-off the Bible and Religion, and avoid the whole subject. As unpleasant as it might be, I think we need to properly deal with this. It's really hard to master calculus, without learning algebra and trigonometry. I've been trying to keep one foot in the Old Age and the other foot in the New Age, and I'm doing the splits. I also think that we need the organization and community which the church offers. Unfortunately, many churches are wracked with painful power struggles and doctrinal controversies, not to mention fighting about money. But please don't stop studying religion and theology, just because you don't go to church, or don't believe in God. I tear down and build up, simultaneously. One doesn't make a lot of friends that way, and it's a nasty job, but someone has to do it. I'm still conceptually working with the Teachings of Jesus, the U.S. Constitution, the Latin Mass, and Sacred Classical Music, but I'm not making a lot of progress, and I have received virtually no feedback from anyone. Could the Catholics, Orthodox, Anglicans, Episcopalians, Lutherans, Buddhists, Jews, and Muslims accept such a combination? Would the Protestants still protest, or did most of them stop protesting a long time ago? I wonder. The Latin Mass is the most difficult part of the equation for me, but if I interpret the Mass with the Teachings of Jesus, it sort of works, for me at least. I'm trying to look for commonalities and historical continuity, with a lot less baggage. I like to travel light. But I remain in turmoil about all of the above. I don't think there is any easy way out of this mess. No one's really going to be happy, no matter what we do. It's sort of like 'choose your poison'. We're very hard to please, aren't we? I'm trying to be a New Age Protestant Catholic by engaging in heresy within the sacred walls of Roman Catholicism, if you know what I mean. They'd fire me in five minutes! Here is a beautiful Latin Mass Wedding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_F3XUAqDFk&feature=related Sometimes I think I should move to Paris, and attend various Parisian Roman Catholic Churches, and go to every single organ and choral concert. Then I might find a group of renegade Jesuits to hang-out with, and conspire against the Pope (in a nice way, of course!), in sort of a Neo-Hellfire Club! What would Benjamin Franklin say??? What would Francis Dashwood say??? What would the Pope say??? I don't hate the Pope, but I think the Papacy is too easily controlled from the shadows, and too easily corrupted. But would a more democratic and transparent hierarchical governmental structure destroy the Roman Catholic Church? How does one save the church, without destroying it, and a lot of faithful church members, as the church confronts modernity? What a pain!

    My computer is running slower than constipation, and I think I know why. I once attended a couple of lectures by Charles Thomas Casey. I think he was a grandson of Edgar Casey. It was quite interesting, but I don't remember the details, and I'm not sure why I didn't pursue the work of Edgar Casey. I come from a somewhat suspicious and paranoid religious tradition, which might explain some of my reluctance to jump right in to something supernatural and spooky. I was attending a Whole Life Expo, and I was a bit overwhelmed by everything. I was also singing in four televised church services at the time, two on Saturday (Sabbath) and two on Sunday, so I was a bit overchurched, to say the least! How does one properly combine order, organization, and discipline with freedom and creativity? How does one properly avoid confusion and anarchy? There are probably seven billion different opinions regarding politics and religion, and how they should relate to each other, so do we need a super father or mother figure to bring order out of chaos? If we keep a certain few items constant, in a minimalist-traditionalist approach, can we then safely engage in a responsible and harmonious pluralism? If the center doesn't hold, we're pretty much screwed, aren't we? Would a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System be a center which would hold? My answer is that it would depend on what people infused this concept with. It could work, or it could fail. What are the psychological, ethical, political, and religious implications and ramifications of a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System? Would such a concept compete with the Roman Catholic Church and maybe China or Russia, or could there be a grand and glorious integration? I really don't know. Again, it would depend on what people brought to the table. I really don't favor a particular race, religion, or country. I really don't. I'm trying to be a watcher from a distance, and do that which is in EVERYONE'S BEST INTEREST. But does that sort of approach make EVERYONE UNHAPPY???

    There are some aspects of the Nazi phenomenon, which might have it's roots in Gizeh Intelligence (or equivalent), which have-been, and are, quite attractive, but with legion and devastating final-solutions. Fame, Fortune, Power, Pleasure, and Technology are big draws for a lot of people. But reprehensible means lead to unthinkable ends. Just keep researching a wide variety of subjects. A couple of interesting books which combine politics and religion in a historical setting are 'Hitler's Pope' by John Cornwell, and 'The Keys of This Blood' by Malachi Martin. I'm thinking about going back to church, not because they teach the truth, but because of community. 'The Rise of the Fourth Reich' by Jim Marrs, is an excellent book regarding the persistence of the Nazi phenomenon. I think we need to study the history of the 20th century very carefully, or the human race might not make it to the 22nd century. I will continue to be honest, rather than sanitizing my true feelings with love and light. Intensity and honesty seems to be viewed as being a vice rather than a virtue. I know how to do placid and peaceful. Been there and done that. I just watched a documentary on Heinrich Himmler, and I'm presently agonizing over the Nazi phenomenon. Why didn't the Germans simply promote excellence, and leave everyone alone? Why go to war at all? Why didn't they simply try to win the hearts and minds of the rest of the world, without fighting with them? The Nazi Party seemed to be an authoritarian humanist religion. If one can grapple with the horrors of history, and remain placid and happy, then something is seriously wrong with them. I hope some good guys and gals with Cray Supercomputers are saving the best internet content, and engaging in expert analysis 24/7. I think this infowar is just warming up, and that we haven't seen anything yet. I'd love for things to be resolved and placid by December 21, 2012, but at this point, I'm bracing for the worst, and for a long and drawn-out conflict, which might involve the entire solar system. But I'm pleading with everyone, weak and strong, to keep the infowar completely non-violent. I realize that there are huge issues to discuss and argue about, but hurting and killing should be kept completely off the table. Justice should be delivered in a legal context, and without capital, cruel, or unusual punishment. I don't wish to just sweep everything under the galactic rug, hold hands (or whatever), and sing kumbaya, but I get the feeling that there have been way too many star wars, over billions of years. I want this to be over, but I'm certainly not holding my breath. Well, I might be going down for the 30th time, but I'm going to try to stay down this time, in my Shallow Underground Civilian Base, and just read books and watch documentaries. I might even enter a Vibrational Rehab Center to try to vibrate fast enough to make a difference. I have no idea what I'm supposed to be thinking and doing. I got the distinct impression today, that someone does not like what I'm thinking and doing, but I'm not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing. Everything seems like a big, sick, most dangerous game. I just wish to turn Purgatory into Paradise. Is this unreasonable or irresponsible? I'm sensing no love from anyone, good or bad. So, once again, are we stuck with either the Old World Order or the New World Order? Is there another better option? What the hell is really going on? Damned if I know, but this thrashing madness of mine is over, for now anyway. This thread is born of insecurity, rather than arrogance. It is merely a tool. It is a means to an end, rather than being the answer to life, the universe, and everything. THE END.

    Namaste. Mea Culpa. Kyrie Eleison. Good-Night. God Bless You. And God Bless the United States (slight pause) of the Solar System. Geronimo! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAzD2Y-opJo&feature=related

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    I was finally going to stop, but here I go again. I like the idea of a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System, with a University of Solar System Studies and Governance being an integral part of this Brave New Solar System. There might be a hundred campuses located throughout the solar system. I think the best aspects of all political and religious systems could be incorporated into a United States of the Solar System. The idea is to end up with 10,000 of the best and the brightest highly educated and trained representatives, who are not corrupted in any way, shape, or form. I don't know enough about the various beings and factions in the world, solar system, galaxy, and universe to make proper determinations and judgments about them at this time. I simply wish for the corrupt and evil bullshit to cease and desist in this solar system, with all deliberate speed. Do not twist and misuse my words and intentions. I desire only the best for this solar system. Perhaps I should narrow my study to 'The Federalist Papers', 'The Anti-Federalist Papers', The United States Constitution and Bill of Rights, in the context of Nature and Sacred Classical Music. Studying this subject while listening to appropriate music makes all the difference in the world. I am not in bed with any particular race, country, or religion. I might be confused or deceived, but my intentions are to do that which is in everyone's best interest. I remain open to all beings and all points of view, but I am quite suspicious and paranoid at this point. I am attempting neutrality, to the best of my ability. I have tried to keep things light, throughout this thread, but I am very serious about cleaning up the mess in this solar system. Formality and informality both have their proper spheres, and I will attempt to be sensitive regarding what is appropriate and inappropriate in various contexts. Would all of the above need to be theocratically approved, established, and administered? I tend to think so, but I don't know enough about the true state of affairs, regarding God, Satan, Angels, Demons, the Human, and the Divine. I continue to fly-blind, with not nearly enough reliable information. A brutal gang of facts, or a brutal gang of dracs, could change everything. I still don't have an enemies list, but I continue to work on one, as I continue to try to understand. Namaste.

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    Is competition an integral part of freedom? Are deception, cruelty, and moral ambiguity integral parts of competition? Can pure love compete in the reptilian eat human solar system we live in? I'm leaning toward responsibility and response-ability as being a modus operandi where the good guys and gals can actually win, instead of huddling in a corner, singing kumbaya, while the bad guys and gals rule the solar system. I really do want the good guys and gals to win, but a lot of what masquerades as love and goodness is really naivety and stupidity, and I have engaged in plenty of this myself, which is why I know so much about it. Has high-technology made us safer and happier people? Has it really made things better? Was the Industrial Revolution a good idea? Are all of the Weapons of Mass Destruction making the solar system a really great place? I'm not anti high-tech or anti factory, but probably 90% of this complex mess should be eliminated. Is the world an environmentally better place than it was a century ago? Have we made this world much more beautiful and peaceful, or have we turned it into a toilet and a slaughterhouse? Answer these questions honestly, instead of just struggling to get more and more and more. I wish to turn this solar system into a paradise for everyone, not just for some select faction, religion, or race. I support a responsible pluralism. Obviously, defining and applying this would be something to behold. Once again, please study this thread as a whole, rather than just reading a couple of posts, and then issuing a verdict. This thread is a mental and spiritual exercise, and a means to an end, rather than being the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This thread is intended to make you face yourself, and think. One more thing. Please understand that I have engaged in a certain amount of role-playing and imagined-importance in this thread. Little people with inferiority complexes, sometimes imagine themselves in important roles and situations. It's sort of fun, and it can be instructional, but it really is dreamland, and there are massive doses of dreamland in this thread. But I have attempted to approximate what I think the hidden realities might really be. Once again, I would love to play some sort of a role in a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar Sytem, but this would have to be in one of my future lives. I'm sort of a basket-case in this life, but in a good way. I mean well, but Raven was right, I am a completely ignorant fool, and I know it. We all have our crosses to bear.
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    Take a very close look at the Knights Templar and the Teutonic Knights. Where and when did they REALLY originate? What have they been doing for the past 500 years, in particular? What are they doing presently? Are there two or three factions, or are they monolithic? What if they really go back into ancient Sirius, Atlantis, Babylon, Egypt, Greece, and Rome? What if they are at the center of the Bloody Drama on this Prison Planet in Rebellion? Are they the Secret Government? I haven't really gotten into this, but I see and smell a helluva lot of smoke, and the smoke is just pouring out of my ears. Consider the Praying and Fighting aspects of the Knights. What might be the World War II parallels? Do we basically need to reform all factions and aspects of the Knights Templar and Teutonic Knights, or whatever names they presently use? Read between the lines here. I don't want to speculate too freely in this area. I think this might be playing with hotter fire than I'm prepared to handle. One more time. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z7O7UZxipM 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiMgwNw9Tyw
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    Oh God! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tTU00m5MB0 Now what are we gonna do??!! What Would Loki Do? (WWLD?) Beware of Completely Ignorant Male Musicians with Blond Wives (with brown roots) and Two Children (a boy and a girl), Who Work in Grocery Stores, Talk to a Human-Looking God, Seem to be Stupid and Insane, and Drive AMC Pacers with California Plates (in Burbank and Glendale), with water inside! What are the odds? What would God say? In 'Dogma' 'God' was a female hidden in a male-body, who didn't talk much, and was funny. In 'Oh, God!' God drives a Taxi. Now that just doesn't seem right, now does it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNUUFVLkYII What if God really is one of us? Now isn't this a rather strange way to 'do' theology? What would Bultmann say? Who is related to Anna? Consider the Ring of Power. Consider the Rose and Cross. What would Bartleby and Rufus say? Jesus Swept? Some say the author of the Psalms seems a bit unbalanced, but how does this relate to all of the above? Listen closely to the opening words of the following video, but carefully consider the entire clip. That's all you get! Put that in your Cray, and model it!!! Pacers on the Highway to Heaven! That tickles me VH / IL!! Justin case you still don't get it, you will, sooner than you think. Are you easily confused? What would Walter say? Both of them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6eTbhHE0jM Here is Part 2 of 'Oh, God!' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hv9Qlcw7H8&feature=related I couldn't find Part 1, but I think all the other parts are there. Frankly, this is driving me crazier than I already was, and I was half an inch from the edge. One more thing, don't overlook the Burbank Connection. What would Jordan Maxwell say? Didn't they sell Pacers at Modern Motors in Glendale? Or was it a couple of blocks down Brand? What kind of a crazy puzzle is this? All I want is a perfected humanity in a perfected solar system based upon responsibility. I keep feeling nothing but pressure, scorn, and condemnation. I feel like I'm getting it wrong 24/7. I feel like I'm fiddling while Rome burns. All is NOT well with my soul. This has been a very creepy year, and I really can't take much more of this. I feel like the Last Scion in 'Dogma'. I keep thinking that I'm seeing Kevin Smith and Bryan Johnson. I really need professional help. No, wait. The shrinks are nuttier than we are. Maybe I need an exorcist. My house is probably 'spook central' in more ways than one. The excrementals are quadruple teaming me. Get thee hence into the bottomless toilet, thou fecal-demons! One more thing. What is that big building in the distance, shown below? Could this be where the trouble started? "I knew that guy was going to be trouble". What would the 'King of the Girls' say? What would 'Test Tube' say? Enough of This Madness!? If I lose my house, maybe I should move to Vegas, go to school, and get a ticket on that special plane to Groom Lake! What would TREEE say? One TREEE. Many Branches. OK, I've gone far enough out on this limb, and I know better than to take the bait, and eat the fruit. One more thing. You would not believe the number of parallels between the John Denver character and me. There's a George Burns parallel, and a 'Dogma' connection as well. There's more. A lot more. I kid you not. Read this paragraph very carefully. This is all sort of spooky, and I suspect that things are going to get a lot worse.
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    Has anyone considered or attempted Expository Preaching based upon 'The Teachings of Jesus', 'The Federalist Papers', and 'The Anti-Federalist Papers', in the interest of 'Responsible Freedom', in the Context of the Cathedral? What if there were a French Romantic Organ Prelude (foreplay), followed by a Processional with French Romantic Choral Music, followed by a French Romantic Choral Anthem, followed by Expository Preaching Based Upon 'The Teachings of Jesus', 'The Federalist Papers' and the 'Anti-Federalist Papers', followed by a French Romantic Choral Work, followed by a Recessional with French Romantic Choral Music, followed by a Climactic French Romantic Organ Postlude, with Bells and Fireworks Outside???? Why won't anyone talk to me about any of this? I'm not just talking to the regular posters. I'm talking to everyone who monitors this site and thread. You probably know a helluva lot more about what's really going on than I do, and you could very easily carry on an intelligent conversation with me. Why is there a conversational brick wall? I'm dumber and smarter than you think. I could explain, but it's complicated. I'm just starting to figure it out, and I'm probably making a lot of mistakes, but they are just stumbling baby steps on the road to utopia. Check this out. You can watch services from Notre Dame in Paris. I've spoken of Latin Masses, but I really just like listening to services in languages other than English, so I can read, write, or just think, while listening to them. Don't crucify me regarding my comments on Latin Masses. I would still like to know the full story behind the origins of the Latin Mass and the Novus Ordo Mass. I'm not Catholic, so go easy on me, as I try to understand a lot of things which most people couldn't care less about. http://www.ktotv.com/videos-chretiennes/emissions/messe-a-notre-dame/messe-a-notre-dame-messe-du-dimanche-soir/00060005 I love the music!!! Je T'aime Notre Dame de Paris!!!

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    Should the Academics Inherit the Earth? What if 10,000 people with PhD's in Solar System Studies and Governance ruled the solar system? Should most of the big libraries, state-houses, big-churches and cathedrals be turned into universities (or extension-campuses with an academic-atmosphere)? Should there be a vast Solar System University System at the Center of Solar System Studies and Governance? Should this be called the University of Solar System Studies and Governance? Should the 10,000 Solar System Representatives be spread-out among 100 USSSG campuses throughout the solar system? Should spirituality and ethics be infused into every subject and activity imaginable? Should everyone in the solar system get paid the same, and have the same net-worth? Is money-making inherently corrupt? Should there be an income and net-worth ceiling? How much is too much? Is the love of money really the root of all evil? Should we compete for plum jobs, rather than trying to get more and more money, by any and all means? I'm really conflicted regarding the psychology, ethics, politics, and spirituality of money. I like money, but the non-compassionate use of accumulated-wealth is reprehensible. Most means of acquiring means seem to be evil. Is evil a prerequisite for success? Is there anyone who is truly good? How good is too good? Are any righteous? Even one? What is truth? What color is your parachute? Who's your daddy?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxVO3EoCRM&feature=related Conservative and Progressive Modernity are Knocking on the Doors of Church and State! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfbA7_vjWLg&feature=related What if church services were like mini congressional or senatorial sessions - complete with elected officials and unelected observers? What if the elected officials wore robes (along with the choir) - and processed and recessed with sacred classical music? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ-pZp1FQPE&feature=related Political and Theological Issues would be discussed and voted upon. The choir/organist/orchestra would perform before and after the sessions. The utmost dignity and courtesy would be expected. Each comment or question would be a short and polished oration, which would be both informative and inspirational. These services would mirror the daily sessions of the United States of the Solar System - and would inform and assist the 10,000 representatives in arriving at their important and binding decisions. Might this be a safe and proper union of church and state? Imagine this sort of thing occurring at Notre Dame de Paris! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhBrYCq-cFU&feature=related Might this be a Latin Mass - Without the Mass? Do you see my point? Holy Deliberation Instead of Holy Sacrifice? Heresy? I think not! The Secular Must Become Sacred - and the Sacred Must Become Secular! BTW - how are things going in San Francisco??? Let Freedom Ring!!! 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkx4inkewhM&feature=related 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq8i69-L-Fs&feature=related 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qhEgE7-K34&NR=1 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNVIW5Rhpc4&playnext=1&list=PLC4F08CADBB50246F 5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxBjqrPAUg8 6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8tHPzmarvY&feature=related 7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IzhjqyDzt8&feature=related BTW, the Staged Alien Invasion and Counterfeit Second Coming of Christ are going to be something to behold!! Are there several 'Christs' in training? Will they have a 'God-Off'? That would be God-Awful, wouldn't it? The horror! One more thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KMsysFDgtw&feature=related They sort of reminded me of Mick Jagger and Keith Richards!! The Rock Stars of Notre Dame!! I don't know what they were on, but I want some!!

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    Imagine being in a room with 100 of the best and brightest individuals in the solar system - discussing solar system governance issues. What might that be like? Is this the way it should be? But how would one ensure that you really had the 100 best and brightest individuals? How would one keep this group from becoming cold, hard, cynical, and corrupt? So many things start out looking so very promising, and then they go to hell in a hurry. Would an Idealized Queen of Heaven really be the best final authority? Imagine dealing with an Uber Competent Queen of Heaven in a Temple Palace on the Moon. What might that be like? If they were really, really good - that would be an exhilarating experience, especially if they were really, really sexy!! But what if they made Bloody Mary look like Mother Teresa? How about Kali or Hathor on a bad day?? Think about it. The human race should be treated with dignity and respect, and be given appropriate levels of responsibility, but does there need to be a theocratic authority of last resort? If people are treated like children, they're going to act like children. But, on the other hand, if they are allowed to run wild, they might exterminate themselves rather quickly. Where is the happy medium or proper balance point in all of this governance madness? I really just want things to operate properly, and for wars, starvation, gross-injustice, etc. to be completely eliminated. The drama should be kept to an absolute minimum. There are probably hundreds of viable models of solar system governance, which would work just fine, but a Theocratically Implemented, Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System is the one I'm going to run with, until I find something better, and I am open to being shown something better. But it better be really good! This thread is not born of arrogance and superiority, but rather of insecurity and inferiority. I'm really just trying to make sense out of things, so as to try to help make things better for everyone. I like a mixture of the royal model, the servant model, formality, informality, democracy, and theocracy. Even if there has been historical and contemporary governmental malfeasance, a new team might not be much better. I really am trying to understand that which has been hidden from the goyim and commoners. I hate having to keep guessing about all of this, but when I really find out the truth, I might hate myself regarding my historical reincarnational role in the troubles which have plagued this solar system. Ignorance is bliss, right?

    I deal in possibilities and probabilities, and I also mostly connect dots to information which has been revealed by others. But I do this very passively, and only on this little forum. I think most of those who read what I write, know a lot more than I do, even though they rarely comment. I have no credentials, so my credibility is zero. Even if I'm mostly right, the impact is probably close to zero. It's not like I've been given the grand-tour by a group of Dracs and Tall, Long-Nosed Greys, and then told not to tell anyone. I really don't know, but I worry constantly, and I suspect deception and foul-play on a grand scale. And no, it's not worth it, but I do it anyway. It might be of some benefit to someone, somehow, somewhere, somewhen. This is sort of like 'Mr. Smith Goes to Phobos'. This is honestly an attempt to reconstruct a badly shattered faith, but it obviously is not working. They promised me a rose-garden. They lied. I'm not complaining about the primrose path. It's what's at the end of the path that troubles me. The light at the end of the tunnel might be an oncoming magneto-leviton train travelling at mach 2. They never promised me a rose-garden in Avalon or the Mists of Avalon, and I don't expect one here, or on Phobos, for that matter. But the truth of our predicament seems to have been carefully hidden by both the good guys and the bad guys. They all have their reasons. But it seems to me that the time has come for the truth to be tactfully revealed to everyone, regardless of whether satisfactory solutions can be achieved, or not. My continued speculation might prepare myself and others for whatever horrors await us, just around the corner. I'm trying to keep all of this in the realm of science-fiction, and mostly for a morbid sort of entertainment. If someone becomes upset by this, they can be consoled that I'm just a stupid crackpot conspiracy theorist, rather than a credentialed whistleblower. If the Mists of Avalon gets taken down, perhaps we can start the Fog of Phobos...


    Take a look at this documentary on the Dead Sea Scrolls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzLfZgzuN-s Here is an interesting lecture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92hyhBXLaWE I continue to experience a profound and devastating crisis of faith, but I also continue to believe that biblical and theological studies are foundational for bigger and better things. Don't just write-off the Bible and Religion, and avoid the whole subject. As unpleasant as it might be, I think we need to properly deal with this. It's really hard to master calculus, without learning algebra and trigonometry. I've been trying to keep one foot in the Old Age and the other foot in the New Age, and I'm doing the splits.

    The antediluvian world was supposedly surrounded by some sort of a mist, which did not exist post-deluge. Is there any evidence of such a mist, and what it might've consisted of? The chem-trails (laced with radioactive materials?), Fukushima (deliberately inflicted?), and weather modification (courtesy of HAARP?) might be designed to produce conditions conducive to certain life-forms. Is this possible? Some speak of the 'veil being lifted'. What are they referring to? Are we going to be dealing with zombies, giants, and plf's? How might orgone affect humans and other than humans, physically and on a soul-level? I'm feeling a tremendous sense of dread. Perhaps I should make my shallow underground civilian base a bit deeper. Can you dig it? In the biblical record, Adam lived to the ripe, old age of 939 earth years, but in a very short time period, people were lucky to make it to 100. What the hell happened? That can't possibly be blamed on 'The Fall' can it? Then, 'God' was sorry that 'he' created 'man', and committed genocide, nearly wiping-out the entire human race. In Babylon, 'God' seemed to forbid a One World Government and the Unification of Humanity. I am not a slave to the biblical scrolls, but I do think they contain important clues.

    Has anyone read any Ralph Ellis books, such as 'Jesus: Last of the Pharaohs'? How about any of Gerald Massey's books, such as 'The Historical Jesus and the Mythical Christ'? Both authors focus upon the intersection of Biblical Studies and Egyptology. Does anyone have any thoughts regarding Biblical Egyptology? What about Michael / Horus / Mithras / Jesus / ??? as being a reincarnating archangel, or even a reptilian queen on a soul-level? Perhaps a forbidden genetic hybridization program resulted in an undesirable and threatening product of conception, namely the human race. I am interested in idealistic government and religion, and even the constructive combining of the two, but I'm not seeing much of a solid historical foundation for this sort of thing. Is the human race predestined to defeat, by divine design? Am I getting warm (due to increased levels of radioactivity?), or am I just cracking-up? Sometimes I feel like a potted-plant. What would Brendan Sullivan say? Anyway, has anyone read or re-read 'Megatrends' or 'Future Shock' lately, to see how things have played-out in relation to the forecasts and projections? Should I be reading Daniel and the Revelation in the Holy Bible, for the real-deal about the future? Should I try to change the future, or is it pretty-much already determined? Have the gods and goddesses made up their minds what they're going to do with us, or to us? Or, has the Creator God of the Universe decided what to do with the gods and goddesses - and with us? Is the ball in our court, or not? I guess I'm seeking a productive partnership of the Human and the Divine, whatever that really means. Where does the BS stop, and the truth begin? Which Heins 57 varieties of religion and philosophy do we embrace? How shall we then live? Should we just eat, drink, and be merry, as we prepare to die? Please listen to this Bill Cooper video, over and over again. Please determine how much of it is true. I think a lot of it is true, but my interpretation is somewhat different than the conclusions which Bill arrive at. This material is enough to drive a man to irritability and drunkeness. I've never had a drink in my life, but I'm tempted to become an alcoholic, and join the Friends of Bill Cooper! Sorry Bill. I have no respect, even for my friends! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2414574348304077734#docid=-7367255331569182231 Would Mt. Weather be a good United States of the Solar System Headquarters? How about Camp David? What about the Crater Copernicus? If nothing else works out, there's always Phobos! Should I rent a Ferrari, and do my version of 'On the Beach'? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upg2eqNbF3w&feature=related What would Jon Shirley say? What would Shirley Maclaine say? Wait. Don't tell me. Once again, I want to make it clear that I don't hate anyone, but I am annoyed by nearly everyone. I'm really just trying to understand, and to then respond responsibly. I'm very hesitant to throw stones, because I might live in a glass house. Hell, I spent years in a glass cathedral. I really just want to resolve this mess, and move on to bigger and better things, with all deliberate speed. I'm going to spend years attempting to sleep in the bed I've made in this thread. I intend to remain virtually invisible and low key, but who knows what the future will bring, if we even have a future.

    The following is just a current theory of mine. I speculate a lot. I somehow think that in antiquity, Michael/Jesus was instrumental in the intelligent design and genetic engineering of male and female human beings, and that this was considered to be the original and unpardonable sin in a reptilian universe. Then, this rebellion was put-down by the Old World Order. At some point Michael/Jesus tried to take back the solar system with a New World Order, which was quickly put-down. At some point, a Counterfeit New World Order came into existence, and battled with the Old World Order. I think Michael/Jesus has largely been disempowered for a very long time. I'm hoping that a New Solar System will replace both the Old World Order and the New World Order. I have tried to approximate what I think the New Solar System might be like, by hypothetically creating a Theocratically-Implemented, Responsibility-Based, United States of the Solar System. The crucifixion might've originally occurred in ancient Atlantis, Babylon, or Egypt, simply as a punishment, with Jesus as a Sinner in the Hands of an Angry God. Then, the story was later modified into the version we are taught in the churches. The crucifixion is essentially a human-sacrifice, and the eucharist is essentially cannibalism, especially when the doctrine of transubstantiation is taken literally and seriously. The substitutionary atonement promises that we can be considered as being good, even if we continue to be bad. I agree with Bernard Shaw, that the substitutionary atonement is unethical. I think we simply must be good, which means we must be responsible, and make the problems of others, our problems. We really are our brother's and sister's keepers. A human sacrifice and cannibalism (symbolic or literal) will not get us off the hook with a legitimate deity. But we might be dealing with regressive and vengeful deities, who use God's name in vain, to punish and enslave us. Read 'The God's of Eden' by William Bramley, 'The Great Controversy' by Ellen White, and 'Rule by Secrecy' by Jim Marrs, as evidence for this hypothesis. Crucifixes do not honor Jesus Christ. They are hideous, and most of them should be removed. Obviously, stained-gl@ss windows, and such, should be left alone, as works of art, and integral parts of existing buildings. Anyway, the Teachings of Jesus emphasize being ethical and righteous. The writings of Paul promote the substitutionary atonement, and many consider Paul to be a heretic against the message of Christ. Paul did not follow the Great Commission in Matthew 28. He started an essentially new religion, which was not based upon the Teachings of Jesus. As far as I can tell, no church in 2,000 years has followed the Teachings of Jesus as it's doctrinal statement, and rule of faith and practice. I'd love to be proven wrong, but no one seems to wish to talk to me, regardless of whether they agree with me, or not. No one really seems to give a damn. I have also seen the little white amoeba-like lights between me and the computer screen today. I know someone hates me, but at least they are interested in what I'm doing. I think this thing is really nasty and bitter, and I don't think I know 5% of what has really gone on for thousands and even millions of years. I have no animosity presently, but if I knew the full story, I might start applying the war-paint and beating the drums of war! Unfortunately, we're not dealing with sticks and stones anymore. We're dealing with planet-busting WMD's. So, I will continue to attempt to be a neutral pacifist, rather than a war monger. The regressives would probably kick my @$$ anyway!!!! There has been minimal dialogue on this thread, and then, in the past couple of months, conversation has dried-up completely. I have some ideas. I'm challenging the status-quo, and while I intend no harm, the implications and ramifications of my challenge might be very far-reaching. Again, I continue to fly blind. I'm just trying to do the right thing, despite feeling like poop most of the time. But this doesn't seem to be welcome and appreciated. I guess I'm attempting a jail-break, but it's really a nice and peaceful jail-break. This all seems so futile. I really just want things to make sense, and for this solar system to be run properly. Herein probably lies the problem. I am criticizing the prison planet administration, and I am trying to convert a harsh and punishing prison into a peaceful paradise. This might be attempting an impossibility. I just don't know the true nature of our predicament. I doubt that the management is incompetent, but I do think it is corrupt and cruel. But what the hell do I know?

    What's going on with China and Korea? I feel very apprehensive. I have heard some troubling things, which I can't verify, and which I'd rather not talk about. To all concerned, be very careful, and don't believe everything the Secret Government (or equivalent) tells you. I continue to think there is a hidden power which incites and causes us to war with each other. We need to stop falling for this bullshit. Again, I am not partial toward any race, religion, or country. I'm White, American, Christian, and Male, but I'm doing my best to be a composite of everyone and everything, if you know what I mean. A Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System might not be particularly American, if you know what I mean. My continued discussion of the Roman Catholic Church doesn't mean that I'm in bed with the Pope. There is a positive and a negative side to everyone and everything, and I wish to accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative, and get rid of the dracs! Just kidding! I'd still like to hang-out with the Dracs on Phobos! Someone told me that they like me, but I'm not sure why, or if that was a sarcastic comment. I simply wish to give everyone a fair shake, but obviously I don't know what's really been going on throughout the solar system for thousands of years. Full disclosure might change everything. I will attempt to adapt appropriately and ethically to changing circumstances and situations. What would Joseph Fletcher say? I know what he told me privately, but it was rather negative, and wouldn't apply to this post! BTW, is Titan the new Prison Planet? If so, is it really big enough? Just wondering. If they cause any trouble, airlock 'em!!! I'm half-joking and half-serious! Probably keeping them in a Deep Underground Faraday-Shielded Maximum-Security Prison would be the best idea. For now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANqYvooR4Rs&feature=fvsr Should eating people be a capital offense? Are people really being eaten? Alex Collier says yes. Sherry Shriner says yes. I haven't said much about this, because it is so horrific and sensational, and because I don't know. I have chosen to focus on solar system governance as a method of dealing with whatever horrors exist in this solar system, which might include non-humans eating humans, or even humans eating humans. We don't seem to be bothered by humans eating non-humans, do we? Well, actually it does bother me, because I'm a vegetarian. Nothing would surprise me, at this point. I am becoming more jaded and cynical than you can imagine. I really doubt that participation in solar system governance would bring happiness and fulfillment. One might become a cold and heartless bastard, which is why I like the idea of a rational and organized rotation of power, with plenty of oversight, checks, and balances. But what do I know? Probably very little. I'm going to spend a lot of time listening to Alex Jones. I'm not recommending this to others, but it's something I need to do. I need some of what Alex has, but not too much! I like Ron Paul and Alex Jones, regardless of any hidden agendas. Also, consider studying 1. Science. 2. Theology. 3. Science Fiction. 4. New Age. 5. Conspiracy Theories. I'm not sure why I wrote that, but I think each of us needs to find a proper balance of several subjects. I like the words 'multidisciplinary' and 'pluralistic'.

    Are there good Dracs, Greys, Hybrids, Nazis, Masons, Magicians, Jesuits, and Alphabet Agents? I think so. Imagine working with all of them on the Darkside of the Moon!!! It might be cool if there were a site for whistle-blowers, where they would just post to each other, and others would simply read, and not comment. A Jesuit and Alphabet Agent Site would be sort of cool, where they would reveal bits and pieces of previously classified information, in a manner which would avoid confusion and sensationalism. I hate having to speculate about everything. I'd like to just go into a room full of Jesuits and Alphabet Agents, and have them give me an education for a couple of weeks. I'd probably want to kill myself when I found out the truth, but at least I'd know the truth. A thousand-page, eyes-only document would be the next best thing. But really, ignorance is probably bliss, and completely ignorant fools like me shouldn't be told too much! We might spook the herd! I remain very troubled regarding the low-level of communication refinement, throughout the world. We might not be ready for disclosure or ascension. My quest has revealed how little I know, and how much I need to learn about everything, really. I intend to read a lot of books and watch a lot of documentaries, and say a lot less. I've probably said too much already, and there is probably a very good reason why very little substantial conversation results, but I'm not sure what that reason is. I'm really sorry that we couldn't discuss solar system governance. I really do have to talk to myself. You wouldn't believe the conversations and arguments I get into with my higher-self!! That prude always hides behind a puritanical skirt. I think something monumental and historical has occurred over the past 18 months, but I'm not sure what it is, exactly. I have some ideas, which I'd rather not talk about. I continue to desire that things work out well for all concerned, but without knowing what's really going on, it's very difficult to say anything with any certainty. I just feel very beat-up, very sad, and very scared. If you can remain calm in this situation, you haven't been paying attention. I think things could go in any direction, and I have no idea regarding my fate, and the fate of the human race. I think things have been very bad, for a very long time, and I have no idea whether things can be properly resolved, or not. Things have gotten so bad, that I really don't wish to continue, but I obviously will. Everything is a struggle. Life should be lived, rather than endured. Just consider how precarious our situation really is. Seven Billion Inmates on a Prison Planet in Rebellion, Filled with Weapons of Mass Destruction, Hurtling Through Space, Under the Scornful Gaze of the Gods and Goddesses. Either this world is nicer than I thought it was, or I am receiving some sort of protection, because I am posting things which would've gotten people removed a few years ago. Perhaps it's just that so much forbidden information is being released and discussed presently. I get the feeling that I am being supernaturally attacked, but that I am being physically protected. I know that is counter-intuitive, but I feel as though I am left to fight my own spiritual battles, but that physically, it's claws-off. But who knows? I try to be in an attitude of prayer 24/7, but I rarely engage in traditional prayer, where specific things are asked for. I'm not recommending this approach, but it's just my modus operandi presently. Think About It. Namaste and Godspeed.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:56 pm

    Some things are becoming a lot clearer to me, and it's not a pretty picture. It has to do with how the world has really worked, over the past thousand years, in general, and over the past hundred years, in particular. I won't spell it out in this post, but I desire that the human race learn the truth in as gentle and tactful of a manner as possible. I doubt that things will go smoothly, but I'd like us to move on to bigger and better things as soon as possible. Take a closer look at World War II, and the Nazi Phenomenon, especially in relation to the Vatican and Gizeh Intelligence. I'm tending to think that Pope Pius XII and Adolph Hitler basically followed orders, and that they might not have had a lot of choice in the matter. I don't wish to excuse the horrors of the Nazis, or the silence of the Pope, but I don't think they were in the driver's seat. This doesn't get them off the hook, but I think it helps to explain a lot of things. I'm presently interested in Heinrich Himmler and the Jesuit General as being the links between Gizeh Intelligence and the Vatican and Nazis. I'm still grasping at straws, and very little is really known about the so called 'Gizeh Intelligence', but it seems that is where the planning, financing, technology, and authority originated. But what the heck do I know? I wasn't there. Or was I? Who knows? It just seems that Gizeh Intelligence, the Bavarian Illuminati, the Freemasons, Teutonic Zionism, the Jesuits, and the SS somehow had control of the Vatican and the Nazi Party - or so it seems - and that the madness continued after the war, throughout the world, but especially in South America, Antarctica, and the United States. I think this thing is really, really bad, sad, and messy. Once again, I'm just scratching the surface, and I need to do a helluva lot of research before I can say anything with any authority at all. Lest anyone be too self-righteous, if some of us had been in the shoes of the bad guys and gals, we might've been just as bad as them, or worse. This post is not a negative reflection on the German People or the Faithful Members of the Roman Catholic Church. I just think all of this is a continuation of an Ancient Civil War in Heaven, which seems to be ongoing, to this very day. Hopefully, things can be resolved soon.

    Ancient Technology seems to be in the middle of all of this, and I wonder where Nicola Tesla really got all of that very advanced technology? The Vatican Library, or somewhere beneath Rome? Was ancient destructive technology brought back to life, after laying dormant for thousands of years? If so, should it have continued to lay dormant. I tend to think so. I don't know which way to jump, regarding what I'm learning, but again, I really wish to move on as quickly as possible. Obviously, I want justice to be served, but let him who is without sin cast the first stone. I'm leaning toward the idea that very, very few of us are really good. Some of us might be shocked and horrified when we learn how bad we've been in previous lives. I am extremely worried about my reincarnational history. I'm disgusted with my present life, but I'm almost frantic with fear regarding my potential misdeeds in previous lives, going back into ancient Egypt, and even before that. The rabbit hole might be a bottomless pit. I think people like Eric John Phelps, Jordan Maxwell, Joseph Farrell, Richard Hoagland, Alex Collier, Alex Jones, and Jim Marrs know a helluva lot about all of this, and if Bill Cooper were still alive, he would know a helluva lot as well. I'm hoping that Bill is still alive, and that his death was faked so he could go underground. I think there are a lot of good Jesuits and Alphabet Agents who are trying to do the right thing in relation to this, as well. Anyway, when the general public starts learning the truth, I think a lot of them are going to literally go insane. Please exercise extreme caution in all of this. Firings, divorces, suicides, murders, riots, and people going completely insane - could result from some very upsetting information being spread in an irresponsible and insensitive manner. The truth should not be supressed, but it needs to be handled properly. I still like the idea of a United States of the Solar System, as being one way of dealing with the horrible situation we're in. But I'm not exactly shouting this from the top of one of the Seven Hills of Rome. There's a time and a place for everything. Right now, I can't seem to stop crying.

    Consider again, this interesting Alex Jones and Jordan Maxwell clip on Teutonic Zionsim. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlCSw8euO68 Could Ancient Egypt and the Teutonic Knights be the key to a lot of things? How do the Archangels fit into all of this? Who knows what this might lead to? The True Raiders of the Lost or Stolen Ark? What was really under Jerusalem? Ancient Architecture? Ancient Music? Ancient Texts? Ancient Technology? What if the Ark of the Covenant was a UFO filled with Ancient Knowledge and Wisdom from Sirius? Fire Stolen from the Gods? Is this where the Nazi Advanced Technology orginated? Sirius A = Zionism = The Old World Order = Gabriel? Sirius B = Teutonic Zionism = The New World Order = Lucifer? This Solar System = The New Earth = The New Solar System = Michael? Did Gabriel and Lucifer steal this solar system from Michael? Have they been fighting over it and exploiting it for thousands of years? I'm not sure I really want to go down this rabbit-hole. I might not be able to stop screaming. The horror. How does the rest of the universe view what's been going on here in this solar system? Is the Orion Group a Sirius Issue? Are all of us part of the Orion Group, whether we are human, grey, or reptilian? Are our souls identical? Are our souls interdimensional reptilian? Is that why we have a reptilian portion of our brains? If all of the above were true, would the general public go insane, or would they just say 'well I'll be damned' and move on? I don't know, but 87% of us might go nuts. Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

    Take a look at this interesting, but troubling, link. "Is War a Ritual Human Sacrifice?" by Acharya S. http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/warritual.html I am particularly interested in the possibility of the origins of Teutonic Zionism occurring in the Ninth Century A.D. This could be key to the history of the world for the past twelve-hundred years. Could this be the origin of the so-called 'New World Order'? I don't know, but I think this might be extremely important. I hate to say it, but Human Sacrifice and Teutonic Zionism are of special interest to me presently, and not in a good way. This seems to open a can of worms which I'm not sure I really wish to deal with. Here is the most pertinent part of the linked article by Acharya S:

    Teutonic/Zionist Connection

    Despite the fact that "the Jews" of Palestine were nearly driven to extinction during the first and second centuries CE, when the Christian tale was beginning to be formulated in large part to preserve Judaism/Israel, their numbers recovered enough to continue the play for supremacy. And there was a significant number of Jews outside Palestine as well, some of whom evidently continued their ancient barbaric rites. The noted historian Edward Gibbon wrote in History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire:

    From the reign of Nero to that of Antonius Pius [80-160 CE], the Jews discovered a fierce impatience of the dominion of Rome, which repeatedly broke out in the most furious massacres and insurrections. Humanity is shocked at the recital of the horrid cruelties which they committed in the cities of Egypt, of Cyprus, and of Cyrene, where they dwelt in treacherous friendship with the unsuspecting natives... In Cyrene they massacred 220,000 Greeks; in Cyprus 240,000; in Egypt, a very great multitude. Many of these victims were 'sawed asunder,' according to a precedent in which David had given the sanction of his example. The victorious Jews devoured the flesh, licked the blood, and twisted the entrails like a girdle around their bodies. (vol. 2, chap. XVI, part I)

    Later, through the conversion of an entire kingdom, that of the Khazars, Judaism continued on and, as before, was not racially determinate, since the Khazars seem to have been both Caucasians and Asiatics, who subsequently became known as the Ashkenazis or Europeans Jews. According to Genesis 10, "the Ashkenazis" were not Semites but Japhethites, or Caucasians.

    In the 9th century Zionists (Jews) and Teutons (Germans) allegedly collaborated against the Catholic Church and established a strange partnership linked by their respective priesthoods' secret and sickening sacrificial rituals. This group was alleged over the centuries to have engaged in human/child sacrifice, an accusation, founded or unfounded, that gave many rulers in Europe the excuse to expel "the Jews" from a number of countries, including from England by Edward I in 1290, as well as from Spain by Isabella and Ferdinando.

    The rebuttal of those accused or expelled was that these rulers simply wished to seize Jewish assets. Nevertheless, what had been done in ancient times by both Jews and Gentiles, i.e., the sacrifice of both animals and humans by immolation and by slitting the neck and sprinkling the blood upon the congregation, was alleged to be continuing in the priesthoods of the Teutons and the Zionists. The Zionist elite, in fact, had been accused many times over the centuries of using the "common Jews" as well as "Christian children" as pawns and sacrificial victims in its quest for world domination, a quest outlined in the Old Testament, the Jewish Apocrypha and the Talmud. That the Israelite priesthood used its "own people" as sacrificial victims is admitted in the Old Testament, in which not only foreigners but "the Jews" are slaughtered by their handlers to propitiate the angry, jealous Yahweh (Ezekiel 9, et al.).


    There seems to be a sort of "Praying Warrior" motif, where blood is shed in religious-ritual (symbolically or literally) and in warfare and persecution. I get the picture of warriors dressed in uniforms or armor, participating in religious-rituals (such as the Mass) which involve human-sacrifice (symbolically or literally) - and then going into battle, where they literally shed the blood of human-beings. What is it with "Blood and Death"? The core of Judeo-Christianity seems to involve "Blood, Death, and Sacrifice". Is this simply a reflection of the evolution of primitive humanity, or are we dealing with the appeasement of very-real, and very-cruel, vengeful-deities? Perhaps Jonathan Edwards wasn't too far off when he delivered the fiery sermon, 'Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God'. I once heard a Protestant Minister say that very few knew how much it really cost to keep light on the Earth. He didn't elaborate, but I'm beginning to fear the worst, concerning the Gods and Goddesses of Eden.

    Consider the possible relationships between Sirius, Aldebaran, the Creation of Male and Female Human Physicality, the Original Sin, the Unpardonable Sin, Ancient Technology and Wisdom, Atlantis, Babylon, Egypt, Greece, Rome, Israel, Christians, Catholics, Zionists, Teutonic Zionists, Teutonic Knights, Jesuits, Masons, Bavarian Illuminati, Rothschilds, Windsors, Rockefellers, Monarchy, Papacy, SS, Nazis, Gizeh Intelligence, Secret Government, Osiris, Isis, Horus, Mithras, Jesus, Gabriel, Michael, Lucifer, Amen Ra, Reptilians, Greys, Dracs, Hybrids, the Old World Order, the New World Order, Earth-Changes, and Armageddon.

    I have no animosity in all of this. I might even be engaging in some sort of a sub-conscious self-incrimination. I simply wish to learn the truth of our existence, in a rather passive and admittedly unscholarly manner. A lot of this is intuitive and speculative, for me anyway, so consider all of this with a sea of salt.
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    The following letter was supposed to have been written by Eric John Phelps, but I don't know this for certain, but it certainly connects some dots. Eric is an amazing researcher and speaker. He has more courage and brains than I can even imagine. http://crashrecovery.org/teutonic/eric-on-teutonic-knights.html

    Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:33:45 -0500
    From: Eric Jon Phelps
    To: Robert M. Stockmann
    Cc: skolnick@ameritech.net, cloak.dagger@gmail.com
    Subject: Re: a new conspiracy has been shown up

    Dear Robert,

    Thank you for the thought regarding the Teutonic Knights. As you must
    know, the German Teutonic Knights, with uniforms being identical in their
    colors with Bavarian Roman Catholic Heinrich Himmler's SS, "Order of the
    Death's Head" (black trimmed with silver), were the Pope's crusaders led
    by Emperor Frederick Barbarossa. The Teutonic Knights always executed
    the will of its master in Rome and were never anti-Rome, or truly
    Protestant. Their rule was Augustinian; Himmler's rule was that of the
    Jesuits.

    To assert that the German Teutonic Knights descended into the hands of
    the Protestant Lutheran Prussians is a popish error. We must remember
    that the Knights were formally disbanded by Napoleon, the Roman Catholic
    Masonic Jesuit-advised Avenger for the Order, in 1806; they were then
    revived under the name of the New Templars by occult Freemason George
    Lanz in 1912, that former Roman Catholic priest who met Hitler at Lambach
    Abbey when Hitler was a boy; the priest who openly left the priesthood,
    openly became a Lutheran, openly turned anti-Jesuit, yet remaining a
    Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor in accordance with the bloody Jesuit Oath.

    After the death of Freemason List, Freemason Lanz was the immediate
    influence upon both Hitler and Himmler, those Roman Catholic Jesuit
    Temporal Coadjutors who destroyed Protestant Prussia via their
    connections with Jesuit-trained Joseph Stalin and his Jesuit-ruled
    "headhunters," the NKVD. Yes, the head of the NKVD and also a Lubyanka
    General was the Jesuit, who aided Stalin in the murder of his (the
    Jesuit's) Jewish wife, Alexander N. Poskrebyshev.

    The Order then carried out the designs of Lanz with regard to the Jews of
    Europe and Western Russia, along with the mass-murder of 20 million
    "heretic" Orthodox Russian Christians---aided by Stalin himself. After
    the war Himmler and his Teutonic Knights were saved by Allied
    Intelligence---the British SIS and the American OSS, both led by the
    Knights of Malta---via Pope Pius XII's Vatican Ratlines.

    Meanwhile, the apostate Lutheran morphine drug addict and non-member of
    the Teutonic SS, Prussian Herman Goering, paid with his life for
    resisting Hitler's all-powerful Jesuit secretary, Martin Bormann. But
    the obedient ex-Lutheran Bormann, disguised as a Jesuit, escaped to South
    America via Bishop Hudal's Ratline. His, Adolf Martin, son became a
    Jesuit "missionary" to the Congo.

    In conclusion, the Jesuit Order rules the Papacy; it rules all secret
    societies especially the Luciferian Masonic orders. It ruled Himmler and
    his Teutonic Knights of the SS. Today, it rules the Knights of Malta
    governing the CIA to the end that the NWO will be centered in that
    Antichrist in Rome---the Pope who pretends to be Jesus Christ in the
    flesh, the priest of Jerusalem---Melchisedec. To this no Bible-believing
    Protestant or Baptist Calvinist would ever submit.

    I trust this is helpful.

    Sincerely in Faith,

    Brother Eric

    There's more. A lot more. http://crashrecovery.org/teutonic/eric-on-teutonic-knights.html

    To get a good understanding about who the Teutonic Knights actually were since the early mideaval ages, checkout Chapter I "The Teutonic Knights and Germany" inside John Beaty's "Iron Curtain Over America". In short, throughout history, the German Teutonic Knights were the only Chivalric Order who could withstand the Pagan Barbarian's from far east Europe, preventing Germany and other European nation states falling down into a Sodom and Gomorrah alike "Civilization".

    The author of The Iron Curtain Over America has written, or collaborated on, a dozen books. His texts have been used in more than seven hundred colleges and universities, and his historical novel, Swords in the Dawn, published originally in New York, had London and Australian editions, and was adopted for state-wide use in the public schools of Texas. His education (M.A., University of Virginia; Ph.D., Columbia University; post-graduate study, University of Montpellier, France), his travel in Europe and Asia, and his five years with the Military Intelligence Service in World War II rounded out the background for the reading and research (1946-1951) which resulted in "The Iron Curtain Over America".

    The Pope [Urban II, at Clermont, France, on November 26, 1095] crossed
    the Alps from schism-torn Italy and, Frenchman himself, stirred the
    people of France as he rode among them. In the chapel at Clermont, he
    first swayed the men of the church who had answered his summons to the
    meeting; then, surrounded by cardinals and mail-clad knights on a
    golden-canopied platform in a field by the church, he addressed the
    multitude:

    You are girded knights, but you are arrogant with pride. You
    turn upon your brothers with fury, cutting down one the other.
    Is this the service of Christ? ... Come forward to the defense
    of Christ.

    The great Pope gave his eager audience some pertinent and inspiring
    texts from the recorded words of Jesus Christ:

    For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there
    am I in the midst of them.
    (The Gospel According to Saint Matthew, Chapter XVIII, Verse 20)

    And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or
    sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands,
    for my namees sake, shall receive a hundredfold, and shall
    inherit everlasting life.
    (Saint Matthew, Chapter XIX, Verse 29)

    To the words of the Saviour, the Pope added his own specific promise:

    Set forth then upon the way to the Holy Sepulcher ... and fear
    not. Your possessions here will be safeguarded, and you will
    despoil the enemy of greater treasures. Do not fear death, where
    Christ laid down His life for you. If any should lose their
    lives, even on the way thither, by sea or land, or in strife
    with the pagans, their sins will be requited them. I grant this
    to all who go, by the power vested in me by God.
    (Harold Lamb, op. cit., p. 42).

    Through the long winter, men scanned their supplies, hammered out
    weapons and armor, and dreamed dreams of their holy mission. In the
    summer that followed, they "started out on what they called the voyage
    of God" (Harold Lamb, op. cit., p. VII) As they faced East they shouted
    on plains and in mountain valleys, "God wills it."

    The third body of medieval military-religious Crusaders was the
    Knighthood of the Teutonic Order. This organization was founded as a
    hospital in the winter of 1190-91 -- according to tradition, on a small
    ship which had been pulled ashore near Acre. Its services came to be
    so highly regarded that in March, 1198, "the great men of the army and
    the [Latin] Kingdom raised the brethren of the German Hospital of St.
    Mary to the rank of an Order of Knights" (Encyc. Brit., Vol. XXI, pp.
    983-984). Soon, however, the Order found that "its true work lay on the
    Eastern frontiers of Germany" (Encyc. Brit., Vol. XXI, p. 894). Invited
    by a Christian Polish Prince (1226) to help against the still
    unconverted Prussians, a body of knights sailed down the Vistula
    establishing blockhouses and pushed eastward to found Koenigsburg in
    1255. In 1274, a castle was established at Marienburg and in 1309 the
    headquarters of the Grand Master was transferred (Encyc. Brit., Vol.
    XIV, p. 886) from Venice to this remote border city on the Nojat River,
    an eastern outlet of the Vistula (The Rise of Brandenburg-Prussia to
    1786, by Sidney Bradshaw Fay, Henry Holt and Company, New York, 1937).

    It was to the Teutonic Order that the Knight of Chaucers famous
    Canterbury Tales belonged (Sections from Chaucer, edited by Clarence
    Griffin Child, D. C. Heath & Co., Boston, 1912, p. 150). Chauceras
    lines (prologue to the Canterbury Tales, II., 52- 53):

    Ful ofte tyme he hadde the bord bigonne
    Aboven alle naciouns in Pruce

    tell us that this Knight occupied the seat of Grand Master, presumably
    at the capital, Marienburg, and presided over Knights from the various
    nations assembled in "Puce" (Prussia) to hold the pagan East at bay. In
    his military-religious capacity Chaucer's Knight "fought for our faith"
    in fifteen battles, including those in Lithuania and in Russia
    (Prologue, II., 54-63).
    The Teutonic Knights soon drove eastward, or converted to Christianity,
    the sparsely settled native Prussian people, and assumed sovereignty
    over East Prussia. They encouraged the immigration of German families
    of farmers and artisans, and their domain on the south shore of the
    Baltic became a self-contained German state, outside the Holy Roman
    Empire. The boundaries varied, at one time reaching the Gulf of Finland
    (see Historical Atlas, by William R. Shepherd, Henry Holt and Company,
    New York, 1911, maps 77, 79, 87, 99, 119). "The hundred years from 1309
    to 1409 were the Golden Age of the Teutonic Knights. Young nobles from
    all over Europe found no greater honor than to come out and fight under
    their banner and be knighted by their Grand Master" (Fay, op. cit., pp.
    32-33). As the years passed, the function of the Teutonic Knights as
    defenders, or potential defenders, of the Christian West remained
    unchanged.
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    Take a very close look at the Knights Templar and the Teutonic Knights. Where and when did they REALLY originate? What have they been doing for the past 500 years, in particular? What are they doing presently? Are there two or three factions, or are they monolithic? What if they really go back into ancient Sirius, Atlantis, Babylon, Egypt, Greece, and Rome? What if they are at the center of the Bloody Drama on this Prison Planet in Rebellion? Are they the Secret Government? I haven't really gotten into this, but I see and smell a helluva lot of smoke, and the smoke is just pouring out of my ears. Consider the Praying and Fighting aspects of the Knights. What might be the World War II parallels? Do we basically need to reform all factions and aspects of the Knights Templar and Teutonic Knights, or whatever names they presently use? Read between the lines here. I don't want to speculate too freely in this area. I think this might be playing with hotter fire than I'm prepared to handle. One more time. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z7O7UZxipM 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiMgwNw9Tyw 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ckuXx64abc

    Could there be a completely ethical and constructive version of the subject of this thread, which would seek the uplift and perfection of the entire human race, rather than some chosen or elite segment of the population? Might it be in harmony with Sun Tsu and Jesus Christ, and be completely non-violent, non-sacrificial, and un-bloody? I don't have a problem with order, discipline, and excellence, but I do have a problem with the blood and guts, utter-destruction nonsense! What about a Praying, Peaceful-Warrior Motif? What if there were a branch of the military which was highly disciplined, yet operated in a completely non-violent (or at least non-lethal) manner? Think about it. A member of the military once told me that the U.S. Military was a Christian Organization. This occurred a very long time ago, and I didn't know the person, but it really stuck in my mind. This thread might provide some substance to that seemingly strange and non-rational comment. Could the Teutonic Knights (or the modern version of such) be at the core of the United States, and the U.S. Military, in the form of the so-called 'Secret Government'? Might there be both a good and bad side to this, if it's the way things really work? Damned if I know. I started reading 'The Rise of the Fourth Reich' by Jim Marrs, but then I stopped about a quarter of the way through. I started reading it again today. I'm also going to finish 'The S.S. Brotherhood of the Bell' by Joseph Farrell. I also think I need to take another look at the Branton material which might pertain to this thread. Could 'Dark Mission' by Richard Hoagland have relevance to this thread? He speaks of the Nazis, Masons, and Magicians at the core of NASA. Are they really the modern manifestation of the Teutonic Knights? I don't know, but it seems like a workable hypothesis. Once again, I have no anger or hatred toward anyone. I'm really just trying to understand the way things REALLY work. Some of this reality might be necessary, but I tend to think that it should operate on a higher road, and be more transparent, with the proper oversight. But who knows? I think this could be a really sensitive and nasty subject, so proceed with extreme caution. I am quite fearful of this matter. I don't really know what we're dealing with, and it scares me. Perhaps it should scare you too.

    Today I am watching the Nazis! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9JNq3SJKRs&feature=related I am very interested in the Nazi phenomenon, especially as it interacts with the hidden aspects of Roman Catholicism. I'm thinking that Gizeh Intelligence is the missing-link. While I think a lot of this is sinister, I think there might be a good side or happy ending to all of this, with the proper international or interplanetary supervision. I think that ancient technology and wisdom got hijacked by the bad guys and gals - or the Raiders of the Lost Ark. I think all of this high-tech madness goes way back into antiquity. I think that both the Old World Order and the New World Order need to be replaced by a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System - possibly based within the walls of a completely purified and reformed Vatican. I'm sure they just LOVE it when I make these posts! Just think of what this world might be like today if there had been no mistreatment of the Jewish people and no Second World War. Think of all of the fancy technology being shared with the entire world, with no violence, overpopulation, or pollution. I tend to think that some of those who were involved with the Nazis in the 1930's were somewhat idealistic and naive. But I tend to think that there were those who were VERY evil, and knew EXACTLY what they were doing, to screw the human race. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH0r_xOqVzw&feature=related Perhaps a lot of both secular and sacred history are cunningly devised fables, designed to obscure a very dark and complex past. If one were living in Germany in the 30's, it might be very difficult to resist the Nazi phenomenon, with all of it's power, pagentry, money, technology, industrialization - and with God on It's Side. We need to be VERY careful that we don't repeat the absurdities and atrocities of the past. But we really do seem to worship the All Powerful Gods of Power, Money, Technology, and Fame Paraded Before the Masses in a Bewitching Witch's Brew. The Wrong Thing Often Seems Like the Right Thing - and the Right Thing Often Seems Like the Wrong Thing. I continue to think that we need a vast worldwide army of careful researchers, who know how to face reality, without getting mad or going mad.

    Hitler With Whip (acting like 'Jesus') http://nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm

    Hitler's close friend, Dietrich Eckart, told of overhearing Hitler showing off to a lady by denouncing Berlin in extravagant terms: ". . . the luxury, the perversion, the iniquity, the wanton display and the Jewish materialism disgusted me so thoroughly that I was almost beside myself. I nearly imagined myself to be Jesus Christ when he came to his Father's Temple and found the money changers." Eckart described Hitler as "brandishing his whip and exclaimed that it was his mission to descend upon the capital like a Christ and scourge the corrupt."

    And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables.
    --John 2:14-15

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    One more thing. Consider reading 'Hitler's Pope' by John Cornwell, but don't just look for dirt. I'm trying to place myself in the shoes of Ellen White, Nicola Tesla, Victor Schauberger, Albert Schweitzer, Charles Marie Widor, Eugenio Pacelli, Adolph Hitler, Osiris, Isis, Ra, and Horus - believe it or not! What strange bedfellows! The period separating Vatican I and Vatican II (1870-1962) is extremely interesting to me! Again, I am especially interested in the Nazi<>Gizeh-Intelligence<>Vatican relationship, as it relates to the Old World Order, the New World Order, the Kingdom of God, and the Second Coming of Christ. I think this thing is messier and more complex than we can possibly imagine. I'm trying to learn from this period, so that we don't make the same mistakes over and over and over again. Who knows? I might've reincarnationally been one of my persons of interest...

    One more thing. I'm idealistic, and I'm trying to look on the bright-side of solar system governance. But I suspect that the reality is a royal pain in the @$$. One might want to be involved in it, but I suspect that it might get old in a hurry. I suspect thousands or millions of years of arguing and fighting. There's probably no neat and easy way to manage the insanity. I suspect that things could get out of hand very easily and quickly. I'm really dealing with this subject because I'm hurt, disillusioned, and very scared. I doubt that things will be resolved anytime soon. I think life might be difficult indefinitely. I'm simply looking for more sane ways to manage the insanity, without becoming delusionally-arrogant, reprehensibly-corrupt, or violently-insane. I continue to like the word-combination 'Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System' regardless of how this might finally get implemented. Once again, try working outward from these very few words. This is not a case-study in sectarianism or micro-management. This is mostly intended to make YOU think, and to arrive at your OWN conclusions. I really want to stop doing this, but I don't know how. Stop the Solar System. I Want to Get Off. But Where Would I Go? I'm Sure Some of You Would Be More Than Happy to Tell Me Where to Go. What Would Raven Say?

    I really hate to say this, but the best aspects of Osiris, Isis, Ra, Horus, the Old World Order, and the New World Order might have to be incorporated into a United States of the Solar System. I think that just about everyone and everything are a mixture of good and evil, and we need to positively reinforce the good. I don't wish to stir things up. I wish to resolve things. I bring peace, and not a sword. If I were involved in solar system governance, I'd probably live in a 300-600 sq. ft. apartment/office with an entry-level Cray computer, and keep doing what I'm doing, but in a more refined and sophisticated manner. Then I'd probably travel around the solar system a couple of times a year, just to keep in direct touch with everyone. I think that would be about it. I'd probably watch a lot of science fiction. Speaking of which, now I'm going to watch another episode of Dr. Who.

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    What if we considered the possibility of two factions of the Old World Order and two factions of the New World Order? What if all of this factional stuff is not neat and tidy? Are there good Masons and bad Masons? Good Nazis and bad Nazis? Good Popes and bad popes? Do the good guys have bad days? Do the bad guys have good days? Did Jesus try to launch a New World Order? Did this effort get put-down and/or hijacked? Is there a good side, and a bad side, to the Roman Catholic Church? What really happened concerning the Great Schism, the Protestant Reformation, Vatican I, and Vatican II? Are the Jesuits the New World Order branch of the Catholic Church? Who has really called the shots in this world, century after century? Is it the same individual or group? Does the ultimate power change from century to century? Is the ultimate world power really archangelic? Is this the way it has always been? Is this the way it will always be? How might my hypothetical United States of the Solar System affect the ultimate solar system power? Would that still be archangelic, or would the archangels get kicked-out? If they did get kicked-out, would things REALLY go to hell? I sort of like the idea of a Theocratically-Implemented, Responsibility-Based, United States of the Solar System, with 10,000 Representatives with PhD's in Solar System Studies and Governance. But I haven't really hashed this out with those who REALLY know what's going on. What would the Teutonic Zionists think of such a governance modality? I would like to think that the best aspects of ALL factions would be present in such a system. In a future life, I would like to be a behind the scenes participant in a United States of the Solar System, mostly researching and writing, sort of like what I'm doing right now, but with more direct involvement. What if Teutonic Zionism were devoted to the uplift of everyone in the solar system, in the most ethical and effective ways possible? What about the idea of the Peaceful Soldier/Priest? Do you see what I mean by that? Military discipline to do good in the world, with the highest ethical standards. I sure wish I could discuss this sort of thing with someone. Anyone. But don't expect me to tell you what you want to hear. I might cross you, and make you cross. I'm a two-faced, back-stabbing, completely-ignorant fool, who hides behind a puritanical-skirt!! This Old World Order v New World Order v New Solar System might involve double-crossing, triple-crossing, quadruple-crossing, and so on!! I think the real truth about all of this is very dark and deep!! I have HUGE problems with suffering, torture, enslavement, warfare, extermination, etc. The butchery and environmental destruction of the past couple of hundred years is horrible and unthinkable. How could this have happened? How should we properly clean up this mess? I really think that understanding Teutonic Zionism, in all of it's forms, might be a good place to begin. But really, I'm just beginning to look at this, and it's scaring me more than anything I have studied thus far. I am in the process of forming a solar system view which is startling and alarming to the nth degree. I really intend to let this subject settle in my soul for a significant period of time, before doing anything significant with it. Consider re-listening to that Project Camelot 'Anglo Saxon Mission' video, in light of Teutonic Zionism. Are they related, or not? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw4z-rSwNjY

    There is SO MUCH information out there right now. Who knows how much longer this will be the case. I think we might have a very small window of opportunity to make things right in this solar system. But I am very concerned that we not kill the patient by trying to help the patient. I think we need to be very discerning and careful in all of this. It almost feels like I'm accidentally walking in on a big Mafia meeting, or something like that. We might not have any idea how powerful the forces are. I will continue to passively research and speculate, but with the full knowledge that I have very, very little knowledge and skill for properly dealing with this present darkness, regardless of who I might be reincarnationally. I just wish that I had properly followed-through when I read 'The Spear of Destiny' by Trevor Ravenscroft, many years ago. I bought it at a Whole Life Expo. My whole world was crumbling at that time, and this process has gotten worse throughout the years. I feel like I'm in a freefall, at terminal velocity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhO6BzSJXBw&feature=related

    Check out this fantastic documentary on Hitler, the Nazis, the Vril, Advanced Technology, and Gizeh Intelligence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egwAa2G1YPY This is a must see. This is the best video I've seen on these subjects. I am not necessarily opposed to advanced technology and underground bases. I actually think that it's sort of cool. But how did this technology REALLY come into existence? Did someone steal fire from the gods? What if the gods are really pissed-off now? I keep thinking that we are in a HUGE amount of trouble in connection with all of this, but I don't know the details, and I'm not sure that I want to know. But I would like to know more about Adolph Hitler, Victor Schauberger (died in 1958), Pope Pius XII (died in 1958), Nicola Tesla, God the Father, Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer - in connection with all of the above. Here's another excellent video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc0yt5PpCfQ&feature=related

    Who gave Adolph Hitler and Eugenio Pacelli their marching orders? I think these men were naive pawns. What was the relationship between the SS, the Jesuits, and Gizeh-Intelligence? Aldebaran might've been key in antiquity, but what about in modernity? I tend to doubt it. I lean toward a theory of the Orion Group essentially stewing in it's own juice for many thousands of years, rather than aliens from distant stars getting involved in our madness. But I obviously can't prove this bias.

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    Wouldn't it be cool if there were someone who could really make the bad-guys tremble - but who would never be a threat to the good-guys, or to the rank and file members of society? What would a Pope and/or President look and act like in a Vatican-Based Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System? I just think that the current governmental systems are HIGHLY corruptible - and that it's almost impossible to be a really good guy or gal at the highest levels of governance - in both secular and sacred settings. That haunting image of Pope Pius XII is both attractive and repulsive to me. If he were emerging from a meeting where he had just read the riot-act to the Nazis, and had told them NOT to go to war, or to harm anyone in any way, shape, or form - THAT would be cool - wouldn't it??? But if there were some sort of diabolical and corrupt collusion in the works - that would be reprehensible - wouldn't it??? I would LOVE to talk to the most knowledgeable individual in the solar system - regarding what REALLY went on between Eugenio Pacelli and Adolph Hitler!! I would also like to know what part Gizeh Intelligence played in all of this. I wonder if Pope Pius XII visited any Underground Bases??!! I tend to think that he was under more pressure than anyone could possibly imagine. I'm not sure exactly why I think that might've been the case. What reincarnational parts did Isis, Ra, and Horus play in the first half of the twentieth-century?? We might be surprised!! Osiris seems to be absent throughout most of recorded history. Just my impression. I should stop...
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    Here is a totally off the wall thought. I haven't thought this through at all. What if 1913 were the beginning of an attempt in earnest by Amen Ra to overthrow Isis? The Federal Reserve might've been a major source of funding for Gizeh Intelligence. That, and looting Fort Knox gold. Gizeh Intelligence supposedly gave Hitler massive funding and uber-high technology (including nukes and ufo's). But Gizeh Intelligence supposedly pulled the plug on Hitler in 1941. Was this when Isis realized what was going on? Did Hitler double-cross Gizeh Intelligence, and attack them? Was the North African Crusade a big part of this? Did the end of World War II coincide with the victory of Ra over Isis? Then we got the Nazi Scientists. We got the United Nations. We got the Alphabet Agencies. We got Roswell. We got Nukes. We got UFO's. We got Muroc. We got Greada. We got the Military-Industrial Complex. We got Assassinations. We got Drugs. We got Vatican II. We got Undeclared and Ridiculous Wars. We got the United Nations Charter Superceeding the United States Constitution. We got Waco. We got Oklahoma City. We got 9/11. We got Afghanistan and Iraq. We got MASSIVE debt. We got Katrina. We got Homeland Security. We got FEMA camps. We got TSA. We got the Gulf of Mexico Oil Fiasco. We got Fukushima. It goes on and on and on. Did the Powers That Be find out the hard way, in 1979, in connection with the Dulce Wars, that the New Secret Government was playing for keeps, and wanted the planet? Is the Secret Government Entirely Human? Have they threatened to exterminate the human race, if they don't get their way? Damned if I know. They never tell me anything. Hell, they don't even talk to me. I will continue to passively promote a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System as a possible solution for All Concerned. My introduction of the topic of religion does not imply a desire, on my part, to have everyone be forced to participate in a particular religion - or else. I completely promote and support political and religious freedom - including Communism and Satanism. I'm simply trying to deal with the historical tension between church and state - and all of the horrors connected with horrible churches and unthinkable states - which became exponentially worse when they united their insanity. I simply desire a solid core for this solar system, which maximizes RESPONSIBLE FREEDOM - LONG TERM. Solar System Without End. Namaste. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJfc63rCnWE

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    I keep wondering if the whole hypothetical Nazi<>Gizeh-Intelligence<>Vatican thing could've been handled in a positive and constructive manner in the 1930's and 1940's? Did there really have to be the mistreatment of the 'undesirables', the horrors of World War II, and the diabolical extermination camps? I think that the whole world government and advanced technology thing has been terribly mishandled. I don't know the details of the history of the world, but I just keep shaking my head, and wondering why things have been so corrupt and violent? I like the idea of organization, cooperation, technology, ceremony, discipline, etc, but I HATE persecution, torture, stealing, atrocities, murdering, enslavement, and extermination. I keep thinking that the Old World Order and the New World Order should be carefully studied, and that perhaps the best of both of them should be incorporated into a New Solar System aka the United States of the Solar System. I just want this solar system to be properly managed in a very shrewd, clever, and non-violent manner, which is ultimately in EVERYONE'S best interest. I desire a solar system partnership, where no one gets screwed, if that is possible. That's the idealistic intent. Obviously, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and I remain quite naive. I freely admit to being a completely ignorant fool, but I am trying to get with it. I am trying to become more sophisticated regarding world and solar system governance. There is so much forbidden information on the internet. It's really too much to properly process. Again, I'm finding the best way to deal with all of this, is to imagine being one of those who are tasked with setting-up and managing a non-corrupt and non-violent New Solar System, replacing both the Old World Order and the New World Order. I don't intend to do this in a triumphally-exultant manner. I really just wish to move on to bigger and better things, with the least amount of drama and fuss possible. Save the drama for your mamma. What's next?

    Here is some theological controversy for you, which relates to Blood and the Old Testament Sanctuary Service, which has some relevance to this thread. I continue to think that all of us should be theologians, regardless of whether we believe in God, or not. Politics and Religion are two sides of the same coin. We are not thinking as deeply and comprehensively as we need to, and I am very fearful regarding where all of this is going to end up. New universal insights should really arise from biblical and theological research. I think I'd rather intellectually fight with a room-full of Jesuits, than argue with a room-full of New Agers. I fear the Jesuits. I disagree with the Jesuits. I think they have historically been working for the wrong boss, but I think that most of them have done their homework, in the context of biblical studies and church history. In a debate, they'd probably eat me alive, in sort of a Holy Cannibalism! The New Agers have probably rightly rejected one extreme, and wrongly jumped into bed with another extreme. How about a happy medium? I think the Teaching of Jesus might provide a middle way. But I realize that there are problem areas and hard sayings in the words attributed to Jesus Christ, including the reference to eating flesh and drinking blood as a requirement for salvation. My solution is to look at the preponderance of the evidence, rather than hanging everything on a couple of texts. What did the redacters do, and when did they do it? Anyway, take a look at this. I posted this a while ago, but I really think we need to think about these substitutionary-atonement, human-sacrifice, sanctuary-service, and ritual unbloody sacrifice issues. I doubt that many of you will get what I'm talking about, or even care, but we really need to sort out politics and religion, and stop just being galactic lookie-loos, looking for the lastest disaster-prophecy or freak-show. Also, we shouldn't just follow the leader at our local churches. Who knows who is giving the marching orders to these leaders, or if they have much of a choice in the matter? What about Egyptology and Biblical Scholarship? What about researching the History of God for ourselves? What would Karen Armstrong say? Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Do I even know what I'm talking about? Is this a case-study in Automatic-Talking?

    Today, I'm reading from a 1,000 page book about Daniel 8:14 and the Day of Atonement, by Dr. Desmond Ford. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Ford I fundamentally disagree with him - but I deeply respect his thinking, writing, speaking, and debating skills. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy37dpBXjEs&feature=related I'd love to know who ALL of his teachers were (in addition to Edward Heppenstall and F.F. Bruce). Tomorrow, I'll go back to conceptualizing a Vatican-Based Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System. From what I hear - the Vatican REALLY loves me! Also, I supposedly have a fan-club on Phobos!! I'd like to visit them someday! Sorry. I was going to stop, wasn't I? But, in a sense, this thread really started decades ago, with my exposure to Dr. Ford. Just blame Des. I just realized that when I spoke to Desmond Ford in the late 80's - the subject was 'The Life and Teachings of Jesus'. Des considered the Life of Christ titled 'The Desire of Ages' by Ellen White - to be the greatest book outside of the Holy Bible. (See his Oct. 27, 1979 Forum Lecture) 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqhH5RVLW1o&feature=related 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXg7Hm3Exec&feature=related (You can't imagine how much trouble this lecture caused!) I once spoke to the respondant - Dr. Eric Syme about the aftermath of this lecture. Another controversial Adventist was/is Robert Brinsmead. He encouraged me to focus on the Teachings of Jesus a few years ago. Here is an interesting in-house style panel-discussion. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOzZNKxcNQ4&feature=related 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7PpoO9oPgc&feature=related (I don't necessarily endorse the points made in this discussion - but it raises many very important issues - which apply to nearly all religious organizations). Try reading 'The Desire of Ages' side by side with 'The Keys of This Blood' by Malachi Martin. Add 'The Federalist Papers' and a Latin Mass to this recipe for a very tasty doctrinal and governmental dish. Try applying that '79 Ford lecture to the perpetual-sacrificial aspect of the Mass (instead of the Investigative Judgment) and to the Papacy (instead of Ellen White). How much flexibility is there regarding the practice and interpretation of the Mass, while still maintaining it's validity? Can the Teachings of Jesus and Sacred Classical Music be properly and seamlessly woven into the Traditional Latin Mass - so as to maximize the Life and Teachings of Jesus - rather than the Human Sacrifice of Christ? I'm trying to make this work - but I need some serious help in this sensitive area. People are rather particular and testy regarding how they pray. The problem with all of this is that the quicksand is everywhere. No matter how hard one tries to resolve things, the problems seem to just keep reproducing and multiplying. The unvarnished-truth might be so upsetting and disruptive, that lies are sought like Cities of Refuge. I know all about White Lies. The truth is so overrated...

    Researching Teutonic Zionism, Teutonic Knights, Knights Templer, et al is getting into an area of study which frankly scares the hell out of me. When I got into the subject of Amen Ra, on Avalon 1, I felt the same way. By the way, the 'Amen Ra' thread on Avalon 1 presently has nearly 20,000 views, with nearly half of these views occurring after the shut-down. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18223 Could the two subjects be related? I'm beginning to think so. Here is a link to some related links. http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2008/07jul/RICR-080720-SUB.html Incidently, I'm thinking that Eric Jon Phelps is an excellent resource for this topic. He mostly deals with the Jesuit and Catholic aspects, but perhaps they are important pieces of the puzzle. I still do not wish to be angry at anyone, and I still wonder what my reincarnational role might've been in all of the historical madness. I've been completely out of the loop throughout this incarnation, with the exception of my recent internet expedition into madness. I will continue to blurt things out, in a tactful and tentative manner, on this little site. I hope this helps more than it hurts, but I am open to a redirection of my attention, with the appropriate use of reason, rather than meanness. I want to help to clean things up, but I want to do it the right way. There is a right and a wrong way to do the right thing, you know. Think about religious-ritual human-sacrifice and military human-sacrifice. Are the two related? Is there a religious and a military branch of a secret government, which specializes in blood, death, and sacrifice? And what about blood-money banksters? What about the City-States? Like I said, this subject is getting too scary and creepy for me. I was just going to stop posting, while I wait for Armageddon. How far out on a limb should I venture, if I am to follow my own advice concerning responsibility? I'm going to stop whimpering and rambling, and just listen to Eric Jon Phelps, Leo Zagami, Alex Jones, Bill Cooper, Jordan Maxwell, and Sherry Shriner. That should calm me down, and help me get my head together...
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:58 pm

    Could we be dealing with the Annunaki vs Gizeh Intelligence? Or - are we really dealing with only one Solar System Super Power? Could they have created all of the mythologies, theologies, hybrids, greys, reptilians, nukes, anti-gravity craft, etc and et al? Damned if I know. I just keep marching bravely and stupidly into the unknown - waiting to get shot down. Is there any truth to the following?

    ALDEBARAN -- Human militarists of a fascist slant who have traditionally sided with the Dracos and Greys. They collaborate within a large underground facility below Egypt, the base of a secret "Kamagol-II" cult which has connections to the Bavarian Thule Society and the Montauk time-space projects. This cult is also referred to as the Gizeh empire or Gizeh Intelligence, and they are working with secret societies on earth in an effort to dissolve all national sovereignties into a global religio-eco-political order. There are also Insectoid forces involved with Aldebaran. Apparently a neo-Nazi space force may have helped to colonize that system by sending time-space forces back into the distant past to inhabit the 4th dimensional realm of one or more of its planets. These forces from the past are currently involved with the New World Order scenario, attempting to carry out their dictatorial agenda on earth from their "base" within another time-space dimension of Aldebaran (source: Preston Nicholes, and others). Here is the link to the site where I found this information: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/cosmo1.html.

    Alex Collier Video: 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW4wA55jII8. 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok0QDWj52mU&feature=related. Alex Collier Lecture ..A; 1995

    Commander X Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8420071240361070544# (Especially notice the material after 00:30. Could this be Bill Cooper? Hmmmmmmm.

    Interaction Between Gizeh Group and Nazi Germany: The Greys made contact with a world governmental body for the first time in 1931. This was in Germany. The Greys were however turned away by the German government, because it had already committed itself to involvement with the Gizeh Intelligence. Now, I don't know if you know who Gizeh intelligence is, but I will tell you that it is a renegade group of human extraterrestrials that were headquartered under the Gizeh plateau in Egypt. They were predominantly Pleiadians at the time. Ashtar was part of that group, Kamagol was part of that group. Even Jehovah was part of that group for some time. They did their own thing. They came down here and "played God" with us, and people worshipped them as "Gods" because they had this technology. They abused their power. The Germans were, in the 1930's, building rockets and starting a space program because of their contacts with extraterrestrials - the Gizeh Intelligence.

    Technology was developed and used to create weapons, because the German governmental bodies involved were concerned that there was going to be an alien invasion. The Gizeh intelligence told them that the Greys were here. However, there was not an actual invasion, per se, in progress. Weapons, such as sound devices, lasers, neutron bombs, particle beam weapons were created, although many of these were actualized later on in history. The Germans were given a lot of this technology by the Gizeh intelligence. These technologies also included free energy devices and anti-gravity technology. Tripartite Interaction: US, USSR and Britain. The United States was the first to open its doors to the alien race known as the Greys. I have been told of a contact in 1934, wherein the Greys made their presence known to the United States government in Washington State. It wasn't until 1947 that actual contact occurred with the aliens and United States officials, due to the shooting down of an alien craft in Roswell, New Mexico. This pressed the Greys into contact earlier than they had anticipated. After this crash at Roswell in 1947 the United States, the Soviet Union and the British, at the very highest levels of government, became "blood-brothers".

    Now, these governments did not know what Germany was really up to at that time in history. The Germans were very very secretive about their contact with Gizeh intelligences. What was going on in Germany and what was going on between these other countries were two separate issues. The Roswell incident created more of an urgency to develop a true space program in order to defend the Earth. Again, the United States government and the Soviets thought that there was a threat due to the technologically advanced state of the aliens they had encountered. The true space program as an "underground" development that we are just now beginning to hear about. It was originally financed by members of the Club of Rome. Now, you will need to do some homework to find out who those members are, and don't be surprised at who you see. We'll talk more about that when we discuss the moon. The Greys assisted the "black government" with the building of some of the first facilities on the moon and Mars. Here is the link: http://home.wanadoo.nl/mufooz/Nwo-mc/English/The%20Greys%20And%20The%20Secret%20Government.htm.

    The observation leads to the conclusion that Al Gore is a top member of Gizeh intelligence. This was the reported occult backing of Adolf Hitler and his Nazi movement in Germany. Ethnically, the Mars connection of pyramid builders (Caucasian white race component of modern humanity via Atlantis, in their original form fitting the Nazi stereotype and extremely racist, the people described by contactee Elizabeth Klarer). The story is very old and very complex. In order to give a short intro, just take a look at this ancient Egyptian painting of Toth writing judgment: Toth, or Hermes Trismegistos, was born during the times of Atlantis and achieved personal immortality. A part of this was a shape-shifting ability. In the painting above, he is depicted with an animal head (ibis). Gizeh intelligence comprized around 8000 highly advanced people under the supreme leadership of shape-shifting Toth. They lived since ancient times in a network of underground cities, the main city being under Gizeh, Egypt, another site being under a location in the Grand Canyon, U.S.A. Other animal shapes reported from ancient times include a crocodile face, a lion face, etc. Toth is the fading embodiment of a fallen angel, Lucifer. In the 19th century, some of the 8000 started becoming active, such as through the Theosophical society of Madame Helena Petrovna Blavatsky. In the early 20th century, the Gizeh intelligence became active as a backer of Adolf Hitler in Germany and his Rothschild-Windsor sponsors in England. Today, all the 8000 have left their cities and are active among humanity. From this connection it is plausible that they are also the force behind the Jesuits in the Vatican and the Knights Templar before that. Reference: Books by Drunvalo Melchizedek. Contrary to myth, the Nazis won the second world war and took over the United States of America. See research by Mae Brussell, Webster G. Tarpley, Anton Chaitkin, David Emory and Greg Hallett. From this connection it is plausible that Gizeh intelligence is in control of America. My personal psychic experience is that Al Gore is a shape-shifting demonic entity from the very top of Gizeh intelligence with Assamite ability (one of the so-called „Ascended Masters” who are highly developed negative beings). The activation of the Gizeh intelligence over the past 150 years (since John D. Rockefeller, Sr.’s time) is to my mind an incidental part of the prophecy that is frequently discussed today under the caption of „2012”. The traditional Christian name for this is the Apocalypse (after the Book of Revelation, the last book of the Bible). Here is the link: http://www.cloakanddagger.de/home%20page%20items/Al_Gore_Evil.htm.

    In light of the above information, please watch the following: 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJfc63rCnWE. 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTe2tUW2LS8&feature=related. Do you see a pattern...or is it just me? Tell me I'm not crazy! Pretty please!! Help! I'm finding very little information on 'Gizeh Intelligence'. The above description seems to place 'them' at the center of our troubles. The views expressed above are not necessarily mine...but they seem intriquing. What is going on here?

    I am looking for a plurality of sources regarding 'Gizeh Intelligence'. Collier says they are gone...but I doubt this. If they existed here historically...I would expect that they are still here. Could Gizeh Intelligence be the group wherein Lucifer resides? Are they the 'fallen angels'? Do they compose the present day Illuminati? Is David Icke speaking of Gizeh Intelligence? Has he ever mentioned this term? Did they create the greys...as well as a mythology to go along with their creation? Are they creating an army and air-force of aliens in the Deep Underground Military Base genetics labs? Will we end up fighting these creations...which we have helped to develop? Are we building the UFO's which they fly? Is most of ufology utter bs...invented mostly by Gizeh Intelligence? Do they live on the inside of our hollow earth(if it is indeed hollow) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJU2cp1XbjQ&feature=rec-HM-rn ...and come through their tunnel system in the earth's crust...to raise heck with us? Are Pleiadians the only aliens here on earth? Are we all Pleiadians? Are the Gizeh Intelligence Pleiadian Aliens those who at some point in history, mated with reptillians? So...might there be Reptillian Pleiadians and Non-Reptillian Pleiadians...and nothing more? Are the reptillians the real bad-guys(demons)? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWR6WE4z20g&feature=related Are the off-world Pleiadians the real good-guys(angels)? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-9xai73_n8&feature=related Are we the wild card in-between guys? It's the real nice guys who get you! I think I just became a heretic! I recant!! What? You don't believe me?! Oh, come on! I'll be good! What are you doing with that torch?

    So...who the heck is Gizeh Intelligence? Do they have a Central Giza Intelligence Agency? Or how about the GIA (Gizeh Intelligence Agency)? Or might it be the CIA (Central-earth Intelligence Agency)? I actually prefer Compassion In Action! Hi guys! Is MI6...Middle-earth Intelligence 6? Is no one interested in this topic? Can someone direct me to where people might be interested in this topic? Sometimes I feel like I'm from another planet...and I wish I were kidding. Please consider all the information available so far on this thread...and give me some feed-back. If these guys are in charge...and no one knows or cares...they have been very, very sucessful. Our greed, fear, and stupidity makes it very, very easy for the bad-guys. Did Billy Meier ever mention 'Gizeh Intelligence'? There seems to be very little information available on this subject. Are the Pleiadians he interacted with...'off-world'...in other words, not residing here on earth, or interveining in human affairs, other than providing warning, inspiration, and advice? Could Gizeh Intelligence be Pleiadians who are in cahoots with reptillians and greys? Do they live in the crust of the earth...and possibly in the allegedly hollow earth? Have they interbred with the reptillians? Is this the basis of the Illuminati, and are the Illuminati actually Pleiadian/Reptillian hybrids? Are the Illuminati and Greys actually subservient pawns to the Draconian Reptillians? Are all of the above the foundation of the New World Order? Could this righly be called the Old World Disorder Alien-Theocracy? Is this really old, rather than new...and possibly thousands of years old? Are we humans...all Pleiadians?

    It's difficult for me to distill the truth from the bs. The Hyperborean reference reminded me of a passage in Frederick Nietzsche's book 'The Anti-Christ' which reads 'We are Hyperboreans'. It's been years since I read this, but that phrase stuck. I'm guessing he was referring to the Germanic people, but I don't really know for sure. The thesis of Jim Marrs' book 'Rise of the Fourth Reich' is that Nazi Fascism is alive and well in the good 'ol US of A. Seperately, the Alex Collier allegation that Gizeh Intelligence was behind Hitler and the Third Reich, would suggest that the same forces are at work today, if in fact, there is a Fourth Reich on the rise presently. Why would Gizeh Intelligence be removed without the other rascals being 86'd? The US/Gray treaties? What about the Reptilians? The whole concept of the earth's crust being laced with bases, tunnels, cities, and aliens is a very unsettling hypothesis. If there is a hollow earth with a central sun...the plot thickens, to say the least! Mind you, I don't know if any of this is true. I have been jilted in the area of traditional religion...and I believe that it is possible to be jilted in the area of ufology and conspiracy research. It's hard to simply say 'could be...but then again...might not be'. Was it Carl Sagan who said 'I don't want to believe. I want to know'? I want to know, as well. Yet I am tending to be very detached...and I have a chronic case of commitment-phobia. I tend to change my mind on a daily basis. The upside is that it's harder to hit a moving target! :

    The man behind the curtain must just about die laughing at us...that sob! Perhaps it would be interesting to study the previous decade in light of the current decade. This would provide some perspective and some critique and potential validation or debunking. The current decade may be too close to focus upon...and going back futher than the previous decade may be too far. I don't know. Maybe comparing everything with everything...without latching on to anything in particular...is a good approach. But the emotional and spiritual trauma may be too much for many people. I started a thread recently titled '1990's Prophets Vindicated or Debunked?' where I looked at Bill Cooper, Alex Collier, and Bill Still. The response was pretty minimal, and focused only on Bill Cooper. The constant asking and answering of questions may be a good approach. I keep getting the feeling that no matter which way we turn we are going to encounter trouble. There seems to be no simple, easy road to utopia. If you are ignorant and guillible, you get taken. If you know too much, they're out to get you! If you're at the bottom, you're a slave. If you're at the top, you might not like the view! I don't have the answer. I'm not even sure what the question is...:sad:

    Could the tall, long-nosed greys, who supposedly met Eisenhower...and who our government supposedly signed treaties with...have been Gizeh Intelligence, with some plastic surgery perhaps? Please, someone shoot this thread down, provide some additional sources, or substantiate and expand on this initial hypothesis. Do benevolent aliens have the green light to remove malevolent aliens...as is alleged to have occured with Gizeh Intelligence in 1978? I thought benevolent aliens were non-interventionist. We supposedly signed treaties with the tall greys...not the short greys...right? Well...do people report seeing tall greys? I'm sensing that there may be a lot of 'local' aliens with human 'help' really screwing the human race. Isn't this an important topic? You can vibrate as fast as you want...but the details of who really controls our planet...and why so many people have died in the past 100 years...may determine the destiny of the human race. If we don't get our house in order...we may be stuck in enslavement/extinction...instead of going into 4th or 5th densities. Do we have our heads stuck in the clouds...and are we too sure that we are going to 'graduate' from all the trouble here on earth? We may be in for a big surprise...

    Gizeh Intelligence may go by other names...but the descriptions in my first post seem to fit what is going on in our world. Go through the whole first post a couple of times...including the video clips...and see if you can see a startling pattern emerging. The whole Nazi/Hitler/Illuminati/Military Industrial Complex/New World Order/Fascist/Enslavement/Extermination/International Banking thing really has me spooked...as it seems to be a global phenomenon which can convincingly be traced for nearly 100 years...right up to 2009. Everything we have seen and experienced thus far may just be practice for the main event. I don't even want to think about what that might be. Check out EVERYTHING on YouTube or Google Video on Jim Marrs, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT_z-B1uLdk Joseph Ferrell, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2j-8CI9Hyw and Bill Cooper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=App2uRxZ4Iw ...for starters. The dots should start connecting...with a very disturbing picture emerging. Please give this some serious thought. The truth may set us free...but it's sure scaring the heck out of me!

    I don't have anything in particular against Forrest Gore...but life is like a Google search...you never know what you're gonna get! However, it might be wise to look closely at the Vice Presidents of the past 60 years...and how they were selected. Were they who the President really wanted? I'm simply interested in how corruptible the top jobs in our country are. Is our political system a glorified 'The Price is Right' show? Who's the host? Who's the parasite? Are we the suckers?

    Dr. Earlyne Chaney, in an article titled 'ODYSSEY INTO EGYPT', in her occult-oriented magazine VOICE OF ASTARA (May, 1982) tells of a discovery she and researcher Bill Cox was shown in Egypt. These were two tunnels, neither of which had been fully explored. One was in the temple of Edfu between Luxor and Cairo in the ruins of El Tuna Gabel; and the other near Zozer's Step Pyramid at Cairo near Memphis-Saqqarah, within the tomb of the Bull, called "Serapium". The Egyptian government sealed both tunnels because of fears of certain archaeologists who alleged that they "lead too deeply down into the depths of the earth," and because they found the earth to be "honeycombed with passages leading off into other depths," and the possibility of explorers becoming lost. If such labyrinths do exist, then it may explain one story which alleged that men dressed like "ancient Egyptians" have been seen deep in unexplored tunnels near Cairo, as well as possible confirmation of the story which appeared in Nevada Aerial Research's 'LEADING EDGE' Publication to the effect that the U.S.(?) Government secretly maintains a huge base within a cavern of tremendous size (several miles in diameter) beneath the desert sands of Egypt. Could this tie in with the vaque references to a subterranean society(s) referred to by certain people 'in the know' which is/are known as the 'Phoenix Empire' and/or the 'Gizeh People'?

    How many factions of humans/aliens are there in this solar system? I think that it is important to know who all of the major players are throughout the solar system...what their track records are...and what their intentions for the future are. Ignorance may be bliss...but it could also be deadly. To me...there should be no secrets regarding all of the above. If Hitler was interacting with Giza Intelligence (is it Giza or Gizeh?)...this is something which should be examined very carefully. Why is there so little information on this subject? Supposedly they broke off interaction with Hitler in 1941 and were driven off planet in 1979. Does this have something to do with the Dulce Wars? Is this when the military industrial complex and the secret human government really lost control of the alien situation...or were they never in control? Did Giza Intelligence simply move voluntarily to the Dark Side of the Moon? Is this the Capitol of the Solar System? Is there a Vatican Connection? Is Lucifer the head of Giza Intelligence? Do they still have a presence in North Africa?

    The Secret Space Program. The Deep Underground Military Bases. The City-States. The Reptilians and Greys. Lucifer. Who Owns and Operates the Solar System? These are the key words and phrases. All of the secrecy should end...and the Solar System should be based upon Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom with an uncorrupted form of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights, which is adapted to incorporate 100's of states throughout the Solar System. Gizeh Intelligence may be at the center of all of the above. What do you think?

    I know that dealing with this subject is playing with fire. I don't know what the stakes really are. If I did...I'd probably just play video games. I just don't want malevolent humans or aliens to play god in this part of the universe...and engage in genocide, atrocity, or enslavement. Bad-guys need secrecy a lot more than good-guys.

    Perhaps I could return to the subject of the thread by saying that all of this stuff is interconnected. Compartmentalizing what we discuss may be a mistake. Thinking about the Secret Space Program while watching a motorcycle race may unlock new insights. I'm not kidding. I call this Contextual Superimposition...and related to the Eureka Phenomenon. The military industrial complex has a huge presence in Southern California. Just ask John Lear. California...in general...is hugely important regarding the subject of aliens and ufo's. I guess that North Africa and the Southwestern United States are two of the most interesting areas to me...at this time...other than the Dark Side of the Moon.

    Richard Hoagland states that the three main factions within NASA are 1. The Masons 2. The NAZI's 3. The Magicians (Occultists?). My question is...which of these three factions is most closely associated with Giza Intelligence? Or are all of the seemingly different factions simply different facets of the same diamond? There has to be a supreme council headed by a supreme leader...which oversees all of the madness. I suspect that this leader is Lucifer. Again...did Giza Intelligence move their headquarters from North Africa to the Dark Side of the Moon in 1979 (or shortly thereafter)?

    Actually...I think the underground bases, leviton trains, secret space program, etc...is kinda cool...but all of this should not be secret...and should not be under malevolent reptilian control. We the People of Earth should control all of this very, very expensive activity. We're paying for it...aren't we? We the People should be invited to the party. It should be 'Our Party'...so to speak. Again...I don't know if any of this is true. I'm simply exploring different lines of possibility and probability. The Vatican, the Pentagon, the NSA, the CIA, etc, etc...all keep forgetting to brief me on what's REALLY going on! I am NOT a potted-plant!

    Could Giza Intelligence be a relatively benevolent faction of humans, greys, and reptilians? Are they fighting more malevolent factions of humans, greys, and reptilians? I'm sensing a very dark and complex power struggle...with lots of collateral damage. Are the various factions really different shades of black? Disclosure could be unbelievably complex. Are there good Masons? Are there good NAZI's? Are there good Occultists? Are there good Popes? Are there good Illuminati? Are there good Zionists? Are there good Reptilians? Are there good Greys? What were the World Wars REALLY all about? Did WWII really end? Is it still raging (over our heads, beneath our feet, and invisibly all around us...and even in us)?

    I'm sensing that we are discussing the tip of the iceberg. We may be picking a scab which covers a very ugly and grotesque wound. We may not like what we see when 'Disclosure' fully occurs. I'm thinking that we may have to become very unhappy and disillusioned before we can really begin to build a better world and solar system. Keep digging...but don't be surprised if you don't like what you find. Abandon all hope ye who enter Avalon. Just kidding...or am I? What if Earth (and the Solar System) was colonized millions of years ago by Humans (rather than having evolved here on Earth, at least)...who brought all of the fancy technology with them (including antigravity, nuclear weapons, holographic, free energy, etc). Could we Earth Humans really be Humans from Sirius? Sirius is the All Seeing Eye at the Top of the Pyramid. Sirius is at the center of EVERYTHING.

    What if we Humans can exist both physically and spiritually...and simply get recycled here on Earth (and the Solar System)? What if a faction of Humans hoarded the technology, dumbed the rest of the Humans down genetically and educationally. What if all of the religions are manmade? What if all of the alien races are either made up...or have been genetically created by Humans? What if a faction of Human Beings is behind all of this? Could this be Gizeh (Giza) Intelligence? I've asked this sort of thing before...and I live in perpetual uncertainty. This uncertainty is taking a toll. I'm just asking at least some of you to think through what a completely Human Earth scenario would look like. Imagine being part of a faction of Humans...living throughout the Solar System...and deceiving 99% of the other Humans. How would you pull it off...century after century? We have to consider all possibilities...don't we?

    I know Humans exist. I know Spirits exist. I know UFO's are real. I know we are in HUGE trouble. Beyond that...I don't really know a damn thing. I'm getting everything second, third, fourth, and fifth hand. Many of us have open minds regarding Aliens, UFO's, time-travel, etc, etc...but what about being open-minded about the possibility that all of this phenomenon is Human? Could the supposed Roswell future Humans really be the elite underground Humans called Giza Intelligence? Bill Cooper was perplexed by the 'Alien Presence' and wondered if it could be a completely homegrown phenomenon. What's going on here? Somebody help me out here. I'm feeling very small, stupid, and helpless. I'm in way over my head thinking about this stuff. I need to stop. Could the superimposed parallel universes simply be 1. The elite members of Giza Intelligence (1% of the Human Race?). 2. The rest of us peons (99% of the Human Race?). Who knows? Oh...I forgot...the Shadow Government knows. Gotta go. Someone's pounding on my front-door...

    A special note to Gizeh Intelligence: If what I have said in the previous post is correct...all I ask at this point...is that all extermination and enslavement scenarios be conclusively terminated. Just join the rest of the human race. I request that all factions throughout the solar system reconcile and join together under the authority of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights. This sad chapter of universal history can have a happy ending...and a new beginning. Namaste.YouTube - 2001 A Space Odyssey Opening I'm feeling really close to the truth...yet really far away. I'm thinking that Sirius is at the center of everything...yet I'm not sure exactly how.

    Could it be that the God of This World is a Draconian-possessed androgynous black human alien from Sirius who heads Giza Intelligence, the Secret Space Program, and the Deep Underground Military Bases...and who is the real Black Pope? Could the Ark of the Covenant be the UFO which brought us here from Sirius along with technology obtained from Draconian-demons in exchange for allowing the Draconians to possess the elite-humans? Is this solar system really part of the Siran solar system? Is our sun really Sirius C? Is the ancient depiction of three suns really Sirius A, Sirius B, and Sirius C? Are the tall greys from Sirius, really just human beings? Did we all come from Sirius? Is there a stargate between this solar system and Sirius? Is all of the cr@p we have been in for millions of years really a Sirian civil war? Are we all different factions of Sirians? Would my pet project of The United States of the Solar System really have to apply to Sirius as well? Is Sirius the All Seeing Eye at the top of the pyramid? Is Sunday really Sun God Day? Is this sun really Sirius? Is the Roman Catholic Church all about Sirius? Are the Masons all about Sirius? Are the occultists all about Sirius? Is the layout of Washington D.C. all about Sirius? Is the Sirian Theocratic System really the Universal Church aka The Holy Roman Empire aka the New World Order? How answerest thou...SaLuSa?

    I just wonder if it's possible to remove the Draco part of the unholy trinity you mentioned? Are the Draconians really demons who are usually invisible...but who can manifest themselves in reptilian/grey form? Are the Sirians we are dealing with really human beings? When the Vatican referred to extraterrestrials as our brothers...perhaps they meant this literally. Are the Nazis, Masons, Vatican, City of London...and most of the people we love to hate...really pawns? Would an exorcism of the Sirius system as well as our solar system be necessary to rid us of most of our problems? If so...what would make this possible? Is it even possible? Has a significant faction of humanity been dealing with the devil? How expensive would this divorce be?

    I have no hatred in asking these questions. I'm treating this like a science fiction mystery novel. I realize that if even 5% of it is true that we are in very deep trouble. I'm thinking that Sirius A, B, and C need to be completely divorced from Draco...and that Sirius A, B, and C need to completely reconcile under the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...and completely expose all of the dark secrets, horrific wars, and deals with the devil. I just want the BS to stop. Hope springs eternal. Conduit closing.

    They have to use Secrecy and Deception to pull-off their agenda. That is Not a good sign. I think we have a chance to properly handle this BS...but that the window of opportunity is very small. The consequences of getting this wrong are enormous...I think. We seem to be like an abused spouse who believes the promise that it will be different this time. How many times do we have to get beat-up before we wake-up and get a cosmic divorce and a universal restraining order? If we keep going back for more...there is probably very little the benevolent forces throughout the universe can do for us.

    I keep wondering about the distinction between supposed 'native' reptilians and the alleged 'Draconian' reptilians. Perhaps the 'native' reptilians are not really a huge problem. They seem to be more physical than supernatural. Perhaps greys are a type of 'native' reptilian. I don't know. But it does seem that there are 'non-native' reptilians which seem to be more supernatural than physical. These Draconian reptilians seem to be very evil, smart, and dangerous. Perhaps these Draconians can manifest as reptilians or hijack the native reptilians (and greys?) to do their bidding...or at least blame them for all the trouble. The greys with two brains (one which is computerized?) seem to just be robots. Do the Draconians sometimes (or always?) possess these greys? The Draconians seem to need physicality. Why is this? Why do they possess people?

    We are told that we need to ascend beyond physicality. I don't buy this at all. We are also told that we will be taken to better places with spaceships and stargates. Are we sure we would really go to 'better' places? It sounds like they want our bodies and our planet. It sounds like they want to rule over us as Gods. I want to keep my body. I want to keep my planet. I want Constitutional Responsible Freedom. I want the Draconians to go to hell...and leave us alone.

    Giza Intelligence is supposedly connected with Aldebaran...but I am considering the possibility that they are connected with Sirius. I haven't decided if they are with the Draconians...or against them. It sounds like they are with them...and even possessed by them. I really don't know. It just sounds like our solar system and the Sirian solar system are linked...and that we are dealing with a human phenomenon(Sirian humans and Earth humans)...with the exception of the Draconians...and perhaps some native reptilians and greys(native to both Sirius and Earth). Again...I don't know. Help somebody. I'm simply suspecting huge doses of BS everywhere...especially from ET's who are oh so superior to us stupid mortals...and are here to help us evolve...by abducting us, experimenting on us, terrorizing us, and dictating to us...whether we like it or not. BS!!!!!

    !!!!!!!!!!!! BETTER DEAD THAN REP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SOLAR SYSTEM EXORCISM!!!!!!!!!!!

    Here is something of interest regarding Aldebaran from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldebaran Notice especially the section on the Gnostic Neo-Nazis.

    The name Aldebaran comes from the Arabic (الدبران al-dabarān) meaning "the follower" and refers to the way the star follows the Pleiades star cluster in its nightly journey across the sky. In Persia it was known as Sadvis and Kugard.[7] The Romans called it Palilicium, and it is known as 畢宿五 (Bìxiùwŭ, the Fifth Star of the Net) in Chinese. Aldebaran is identified as the lunar mansion Rohini in Hindu astronomy and as one of the twenty-seven daughters of Daksha and the wife of the god Chandra.

    An esoteric neo-Nazi sect headquartered in Vienna, Austria called the Tempelhofgesellschaft, founded in the early 1990s, teaches a form of Gnosticism called Marcionism. They distribute pamphlets claiming that the Aryan race originally came to Atlantis from the star Aldebaran (this information is supposedly based on "ancient Sumerian manuscripts"). They maintain that the Aryans from Aldebaran derive their power from the vril energy of the Black Sun. They teach that since the Aryan race is of extraterrestrial origin it has a divine mission to dominate all the other races. It is believed by adherents of this religion that an enormous space fleet is on its way to Earth from Aldebaran which, when it arrives, will join forces with the Nazi Flying Saucers from Antarctica to establish the Western Imperium. [8]

    In Inuit astronomy, Aldebaran is called "Spirit of a Polar Bear". In the religion of Stregheria, Aldebaran is a fallen angel and quarter guardian of the eastern gate. Aldebaran is referred to in Edmund Spenser's The Faerie Queene (1590), book one, canto three, stanza 16:

    Now when Aldeboran was mounted hye
    Aboue the shinie Cassiopeia chaire (I.III.16.1-2)
    In American horror writer H. P. Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos, Hastur resides in the Hyades cluster, and is signified by Aldebaran being above the horizon. When Aldebaran is visible, Hastur's eye is said to be upon all it oversees.

    For the Seris of northwestern Mexico, this star is providing light for the seven women giving birth (Pleiades). It has three different names: Hant Caalajc Ipápjö, Queeto, and Azoj Yeen oo Caap ("star that goes ahead"). The lunar month corresponding to October is called Queeto yaao "Aldebaran's path".[9]

    For the Dakotas (a branch of the Native American Sioux tribe), Aldebaran took on a heroic aspect. The young star was the child of the sun and the lady Blue Star. One day, he desired to hunt the white buffalo (the Pleiades). After he pulled up a sapling to make a spear, a hole was made in the ground and he could see all the people of Earth down below. The white buffalo took this chance to push him through. He was found by an old woman and was to be known as Old Woman's Grandson. On Earth, he killed many strange monsters that had been troubling the Native Americans; one monster of which was a serpent that caused drought. The young hero killed the serpent, releasing a great stream of water that became the Mississippi River. In time, Old Woman's Grandson remembered the white buffalo and returned to hunting him in the sky to fulfill his destiny.

    Reference to Aldebaran appears in the The Rolling Stones song "2000 light years from home" from the 1967 psychedelic rock album Their Satanic Majesties Request. The Welsh-born Dark Ambient musician Brian Williams (Lustmord) has a track entitled Aldebaran of the Hyades on his 1994 album The Place where the Black Stars Hang. Enya included a song named Alderbaran on her first album, Enya (later re-released as The Celts). Austrian musician B. Fleischmann includes a song called "Aldebaran Waltz" in his 2006 album, The Humbucking Coil.

    Aldebaran is also the title of a song by Essra Mohawk, and is included on her album "Revelations Of The Secret Diva". What if what we are really dealing with is Draconian Demon Possessed or Controlled Humans vs Pleiadian Angelic Assisted Humans? What if all of the physical ET's who are here are really Human Beings? Would this violate the non-intervention rule? Are native Reptilians and Greys being forced to do the bidding of the Draconians? Are the Greys who are doing the abductions, etc...really clones, robots, or PLF's? Will the native Reptilians and Greys be used as scapegoats by the Draconian Cabal?

    I'm presently seeing Draco > Aldebaran > Sirius B > Earth (Giza Intelligence, Vatican, Nazis, Masons, Illuminati, Occultists, City of London, United Nations, Washington D.C., Deep Underground Military Bases, Secret Space Program) = Military/Industrial/Financial/Draconian Theocracy. This is not exactly a happy-go-lucky, live and let live, group of humans and extraterrestrials (in spirit form?)...to say the least! I suspect that this is where all the drug money...tax money...war blood money...bankster bail-out money...missing trillions from the defense budget, etc...really goes. Negative Karma to the nth degree is being generated daily. Judgement Day will not be pretty or pleasant. Crime does not pay on Judgement Day. Getting nervous guys? It won't be long now. The Horror. The fun never ends...does it? That figure at the 1984 Olympics looks like one of our Draconian Masters...looking down on us stupid mortals...like a Gargoyle on a Cathedral.

    Here is something relevant to this thread that I posted on another thread: The Aldebarans are supposedly renegade Pleiadians. Did they thumb their noses at the Pleiadian Powers That Be...and make deals with the Devil aka Draconians...to obtain Technology and Spiritual Power? Was the Pleiades really Heaven? Was the Person In Charge really God. Was Lucifer a Pleiadian who tried to get a better deal by dealing with the Dracs? Did this result in the famous War in Heaven? Did Lucifer drag one third of the Pleiadians to Aldebaran...then to Sirius...and finally to Earth? Are we all Fallen Angels? Is this why Lucifer is the God of This World? Some say Lucifer is no more...but I doubt this. Is Aldebaran still renegade Pleiadian presently? Is Sirius A and Arcturus completely unfallen Pleiadian presently? Is Sirius B and Earth in Sirius trouble? Is a final battle brewing to settle this thing once and for all?

    Or...is the whole Universe under Draconian control...including the Pleiades? Did the God in the Pleiades keep this a secret to make a bad situation seem like Heaven? Did Lucifer smell a rat...and try to fight fire with fire...hoping to get technology and spirituality from the Dracs...and then turn on them? Could the final phase of this be happening presently? Is that what's brewing? Is this 'The Great Work'? Are Sirius B and Earth engaged in a rebellion against the Dracs which must be crushed? Will the Empire strike back? Does Sirius B and our Sun contain Planets in Rebellion? Do they threaten the Draconian Universal Church Theocracy? Did Lucifer mean well...but did he or she bite off more than they could chew...and go insane? I keep thinking that Lucifer is like Colonel Kurz in 'Apocalypse Now'. If Constitutional Responsible Freedom really catches fire...will this be the end of Draconian Universal Domination? I really and truly don't know. All of the above could be complete BS. I don't know who the good-guys and who the bad-guys are anymore. Do you?

    Take another look at the details of my previous couple of posts. If the whole universe was Drac-controlled...and this was being hidden from you...but you figured it out. How would you fight the tyranny being effected through your beloved leader? Would you confront your leader publicly while privately dealing with the Dracs to try to get their technology and spirituality? You'd end up fighting both your beloved leader and his loyal (and clueless?) followers...plus when you double-crossed the Dracs...you'd have to fight them as well. Did Lucifer and his(her?) followers get kicked out of Heaven...and then get involved in a horrific fight with the Dracs? Was this the 600,000 year Gaian-Orion War? Supposedly no one won...they just stopped killing each other. Did a sort of 'cold-war' follow? Is this the situation we find ourselves in presently? Is this why everything is so $crewed-up? Is the New World Order a Draconian attempt to completely regain domination over humanity? Is this how much trouble we are really in...or is it much worse? I suspect that it is. Is Lucifer insane because of the hopelessness of the situation? Are all of us Renegade Pleiadians?

    I continue to believe that Constitutional Responsible Freedom would be in everyone's best interest...including the Pleiadians and Dracs. The God thing really doesn't work. I suspect that Lucifer found this out the hard way. Humanity is waking up to this very harsh reality as well. If what I am thinking is true...the Pleiadian God was wrong. Lucifer was wrong. And the Draconians were (and are) wrong. Two new commandments I give unto all of you: I. Thou Shalt Have No Gods. Period. II. Thou Shalt Not Be An @sshole. Period. I really don't want to fight with the Dracs. I can't believe that there is no possibility of them warming to the idea of Responsible Freedom. I don't know what made them so mean...but perhaps there is a legitimate reason. Regardless...why not base the Universe on the best principles...rather than on brute-force? Why is this so hard? Lord Draco...we need to talk. Soon. In the meantime...you're a warrior Lord Draco...so you might like this video. But really...Lord Draco...isn't war and killing really, really stupid? Isn't this video insane? I think it is. We can do better than this...can't we Lord Draco?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxvVbeatmBM

    Here is a bit of a restatement of questions which I have previously asked: Are we really dealing with the following? Draconian-Pleiadian-Annunaki Theocracy vs Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. How would Giza Intelligence fit in with the above? Is Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom a grave threat to the Universal Church? Is Earth a Planet in Rebellion against the Draconian-Pleiadian-Annunaki Theocracy aka Universal Church? Will the Empire Strike Back to crush this rebellion? Does might trump right? We might not have to wait long to find out. Something seems to be brewing. Hmmmmmm.

    Is Gizeh Intelligence the key to all of the mysteries we discuss on this site? I just want all of us to get informed about who we really are...and what's really going on...without becoming angry or going crazy. Obviously...I want a sovereign and free humanity...especially in this solar system. I certainly hope this is a possible possibility.
    I'm leaning toward a hypothesis that the original creation is a mystery...which is probably a combination of evolution and intelligent design. I see evidence of this everywhere. What I don't see is an All Powerful, All Knowing, All Loving, and All Present Creator God of the Universe running this solar system. I'm seeing something quite sinister.

    I don't think the Annunaki, Pleiadians, or Dracs created us. They may have done some genetic engineering (mostly dumbing us down to control us). I'm seeing a cabal of Annunaki, Pleiadians, and Dracs playing god. Could this have been what Lucifer rebelled against in the Pleiades? Did war in heaven result? Did Lucifer and a third of the Pleiadians get kicked out of heaven? Did Lucifer then try to play god in Aldebaran with a third of the angels? Did this apostasy spread to Sirius and Earth...among other places? Are we all part of the third of the angels? Did Lucifer try to fight a wrong with a wrong? We know that two wrongs don't make a right. Did Lucifer go insane? Is the whole concept of theocracy the real root problem? Should the Ten Commandments be replaced by the Two Commandments?

    I. Thou Shalt Have No Gods. (In the traditional sense)
    II. Thou Shalt Not Be An @$$hole.

    I really don't wish to demonize or destroy anyone. I just want the bs to stop. Here is a comment which I posted on another thread which is relevant to this thread:

    I have a fascination regarding cathedrals and pipe-organs. The whole temple and worship concept goes way back into antiquity. Lucifer was supposedly the chief musician in 'heaven'. If 'heaven' is really the Pleiades...perhaps there were cathedrals and pipe organs in the Pleiades...and Lucifer brought the whole theological concept...including temples, cathedrals, pipe-organs, and worship...from the Pleiades to Aldebaran...then to Sirius...and finally to Earth. As above...so below. I guess I'm seeing two rival 'gods' leading a civil war. Are the Annunaki and Dracs mercenary interdimensional warriors and laborers? Was the Pleiadian 'god' instrumental in the destruction of Atlantis? Did the Luciferian 'god' take the Atlantian civilization underground? Is this Giza Intelligence? Are there underground mansions, cathedrals, libraries, and museums...combined with military bases and stargate temples? Does Lucifer (or equivalent) possess the ability to end most life on Earth through 'Earth Changes'? Is alien technology really ancient Pleiadian technology? I'm beginning to think so. The exact composition and motivations of the various secret factions are obviously unknown. My guess is that there may be three major factions...two theocratic (one Pleiadian and one Aldebaran Luciferian)...and one namaste constitutional responsible freedom faction.

    Hitler may very well have been a regular visitor to this underground or inner Earth realm. This may also be true for the Popes. I don't know. This is all just wild speculation. But studying the Nazi phenomenon may be the real window into what is going on.

    When Henry Kissenger was learning about the 'alien presence' he worked night and day...and wouldn't communicate with anyone...not even his wife. What he was learning must have been devastating. It couldn't have been good. Notice that certain key people, such as Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski (both Jason Scholar study directors)...who presumably know the complete story...quietly direct the Presidents...administration after administration. The Presidents presumably do not know the complete story...with the possible exception of George H.W. Bush.

    Once again...I just want the secrecy to end...I want all hard core regressive beings (human and non-human) to leave this solar system...and I want the solar system to be based upon namaste constitutional responsible freedom. That should correct most of the major ills...regardless of who is presently running things or which et's are good or bad. If this works...other star systems might try doing this as well. Is this too much to ask?

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:02 pm

    It isn't well with my soul. Is it well with yours? I hope so, but peace does not equal piety and righteousness. The opposite might be the case, in many cases. I'm experiencing continual and severe turmoil, for a variety of reasons. Unfortunately, I'm expecting things to worsen. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8_EfDqF7YI 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI9PMxd9jfw&feature=relatedI have no idea what our true situation is. I meant the best with this thread, but my hopes have been dashed. I seem to be in the middle of some sort of a power struggle, but no one will really open up, and spill the beans. My personal situation has dramatically worsened, and life presently holds very little attraction for me. I love the theory, but I hate the reality, and I sense that things are about to get exponentially worse. I so hope that I'm wrong. I'm going to try to move in a very different direction, and I don't wish to talk about it. I don't wish to talk about much of anything, at this point. I think this thing is just going to have to play out, for better or for worse. Anyway, I used to listen to 'The Second Chapter of Acts' all the time, but I had forgotten how good they were. I'm going to start listening to them again. Just let all 55 of these videos inspire you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZOW3zaedMg&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=AVGxdCwVVULXfSORpSSOyuJVnKIxRP_AqJ

    I've never been opposed to Contemporary Christian Music, although some of the Prima Donna Soloists and Mindless Scores get on my nerves. Angela didn't appreciate my tolerance of Contemporary Christian Music!! But, really, I prefer Louis Victor Jules Vierne at St. Mary's Cathedral in San Francisco and Notre Dame de Paris!! What would Kimo say? What about a combination of Vierne and the 'Second Chapter of Acts' at Notre Dame de Paris? Thank-you for putting-up with my rambling and brainstorming. The crazy phase is ending, and hopefully, I can refine this thread into something which really makes sense. I am very disillusioned with this whole thing, but I will continue privately, in my own way and in my own time, without begging for help, attention, and approval. I'll be spending a lot of time considering 'The Federalist Papers', 'The Anti-Federalist Papers', Nature, and Sacred Classical Music. But that's just my little mission. You really have no idea what I would do with a church service. No idea at all. But it would knock your socks off!! I really liked participating in the services at the Crystal Cathedral, but I would make significant changes, without making a lot of changes. Puzzled? Good! I like to keep people guessing! Once again, I am very sorry if I have harmed anyone in any way with my internet posting, or in my various and sundry reincarnations. Please keep thinking about idealistic political and religious forms and practices, but don't go nuts trying to make the world a better place. This is going to be a difficult and nasty process.

    I think there is a good side and a bad side to all of this power-struggling governance-madness, and I will do my best to appreciate both aspects, but I am presently in so far over my head, that I MUST go into a READ-ONLY mode. I need to heal BIG TIME, but I doubt that healing will occur. I think I'm stuck in the muck for this entire incarnation, and I don't think I really had a choice in the matter, once I was born. Sorry for the negativity, but that's just how I feel. You wouldn't believe what I think about, but never talk about. Just think of Michael/Horus/Mithras/Jesus/????? as being a reincarnating archangel, who has been, and is, on the side of humanity, and who rebelled against the Old World Order, and got himself crucified. Then, consider that Christianity has NOT been a Religion of Responsibly Following the Teachings of Jesus. Further, consider that around 800-900 A.D. Teutonic Zionism was hatched, and might've been the Genesis of the New World Order, which we are dealing with presently. But I doubt that it's new. Anyway, I have serious problems with both the Old World Order and the New World Order, and I think they should be replaced by a Theocratically-Implemented, Responsibility-Based, United States of the Solar System, with 10,000 Representatives, who have PhD's in Solar System Studies and Governance. Unfortunately, things are so bad, and there is so much negative momentum, that things might get a lot worse, no matter what we do. People will probably never really be satisfied or happy. Major gains for humanity will probably not be appreciated. We might exterminate ourselves, with or without the assistance of the Old World Order, the New World Order, or the Aliens. I think we are in a VERY PRECARIOUS SITUATION, and that this will be ongoing, into the foreseeable future. I'm not promising anyone a rose garden - not even a primrose garden path. I simply desire the best for ALL CONCERNED.

    And Now Abideth Responsibility, Response-Ability, and Love. Namaste and Godspeed.


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    When peace like a river, attendeth my way,
    When sorrows like sea billows roll;
    Whatever my lot, Thou hast taught me to say,
    It is well, it is well, with my soul.

    It is well, with my soul,
    It is well, with my soul,
    It is well, it is well, with my soul
    .
    Though Satan should buffet, though trials should come,
    Let this blessed assurance control,
    That Christ has regarded my helpless estate,
    And hath shed His own blood for my soul.

    My sin - O the joy of this glorious thought! -
    My sin, not in part but the whole,
    Is nailed to the cross, and I bear it no more,
    Praise the Lord, praise the Lord, O my soul!

    For me, be it Christ, be it Christ hence to live:
    If Jordan above me shall roll,
    No pang shall be mine, for in death as in life,
    Thou wilt whisper Thy peace to my soul.

    But Lord, 'tis for Thee, for Thy coming we wait,
    The sky, not the grave, is our goal;
    Oh, trump of the angel! Oh, voice of the Lord!
    Blessed hope, blessed rest of my soul.

    And Lord, haste the day when my faith shall be sight,
    The clouds be rolled back as a scroll;
    The trump shall resound, and the Lord shall descend,
    Even so, it is well with my soul.

    Horatio G. Spafford - 1873


    FOCUS ON THE SECRET GOVERNMENT, HISTORICALLY AND PRESENTLY. I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE ALL OF THE POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES. WE SHOULD NOT BE IGNORANT, BUT WE SHOULDN'T RUN IN THE STREETS EITHER. IMAGINE BEING PART OF A NON-CORRUPT SECRET GOVERNMENT, JUST TO GET A FEEL FOR THIS PHENOMENON. I KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT THIS SUBJECT, BUT I THINK THIS MIGHT BE AT THE CENTER OF EVERYTHING. GETTING THIS SUBJECT WRONG, MIGHT MEAN GETTING EVERYTHING WRONG. EVEN IF THE SECRET GOVERNMENT WAS LEGITIMATE, AT SOME POINT, I THINK THIS MIGHT NO LONGER BE THE CASE. I THINK THINGS MIGHT BE SPIRALLING OUT OF CONTROL, FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. ONCE AGAIN, I GUESS I SEEK A MORE REFINED AND RATIONAL SECRET GOVERNMENT, WHICH BECOMES LESS AND LESS SECRET. THE SECRET GOVERNMENT MIGHT TRANSITION INTO A RESPONSIBILITY-BASED UNITED STATES OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM. I DON'T WISH TO REINVENT THE WHEEL. I WISH TO RETAIN THAT WHICH IS WORKING, AND REPLACE THAT WHICH IS NOT WORKING. I BLAME VIRTUALLY EVERYONE, INCLUDING MYSELF, FOR THIS MESS. WE SIMPLY NEED TO CLEAN THINGS UP, WITHOUT BECOMING BLINDED BY THE BLAME GAME. WE NEED TO FIX THINGS, AND MOVE ON TO BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS. I THINK IT MIGHT BE AN EXCELLENT TIME FOR A LOT OF HUMANS (AND OTHER THAN HUMANS) TO SWITCH SIDES, OR AT LEAST BECOME A LOT MORE ETHICAL. PROBATION IS CLOSING. DON'T GET CAUGHT ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THIS THING.

    What do you think about what I wrote in the previous paragraph? I know you're not talking to me, but I just thought I'd ask anyway. I wonder how this thing is really going to play out. I doubt that things are going to proceed in a reasonable and rational manner. Just look at history. I can almost understand why some have sought to work from the shadows, rather than reasoning openly with the Gods, Goddesses, and Masses. I have found that attempting to be accommodating, open, and honest doesn't seem to work. I'm feeling as though a multitude of unfriendly eyes are viewing my well intentioned, but feeble, activities. Are solar system studies and governance really that uninteresting, or is it just that you don't like me one little bit? Am I too unscholarly, or am I too much of an irreverent smart-alec? I have tried to deal with this subject as though it were sort of a midnight fireside-chat among friends. Was this a mistake? Is this solar system really as irrational and hostile as it seems? I treated the subject of Jesus and Christianity in a rather free-wheeling manner throughout this thread. I have even tried to be Christ-like, in a rather unconventional manner, which has included a bit of role-playing. Was this a mistake? Is it better to not enjoy the use of the imagination? I sense that no one would really like the real Jesus, if he showed-up in modernity, and refused to play anyone's prefabricated games. Perhaps humanity has rejected Jesus, century after century after century. Just a thought. Should this world and humanity be destroyed? Are Daniel and the Revelation really histories of the future, which are set in concrete? Various religions fight and fight and fight over what the future will be like. Which one is right? Are any of them right? What if all of them are wrong? Will everyone be saved? Will a select few be saved? Will no one be saved? Or, is 'saved' a deceptive and irrelevant concept? Is Earth really Heaven? Purgatory? Hell? Will a UFO take people to Heaven, Purgatory, or Hell? What if you thought you were being taken to Heaven, and you ended-up on a Reptilian Slave-Labor Planet, where people get eaten? What if Earth is such a planet? Can this seeming Purgatory be turned into Paradise, or would efforts toward this end really be exercises in futility?

    Why did all of you stop talking to me? What did I do wrong? I feel as if I need to just be myself, regardless of whether it makes anyone happy, or not. Should I fight with everyone? Should I tell everyone what they wish to hear? Should I give everyone what they want? Do Lucifer or Satan tell people what they wish to hear, and give them what they want, while deceiving and destroying them, with the people being none the wiser? Does humanity embrace their destroyer and reject their savior? Has everyone made up their minds for all eternity? Should the wicked be destroyed? Are there any righteous souls? Even one? What would Bartleby and Loki say and do? What if the B-movie 'Legion' approximates reality? BTW, what is the relationship between Abraham, Moses, David, and Jesus? What if they are ancient Egyptian royalty, rather than being the stereotypical figures? What if Egyptology and Teutonic Zionism are at the core of a lot of very important things? What kind of a Jesus does the general public want? Is there so much corruption and confusion, that people have mostly given-up regarding the Second-Coming of Christ, and a Grand Prize Trip to a Perfect Heaven, Possibly Located Beyond M-42 in Orion? I really can't talk to anyone. I have to pretty much exist in my own little world. I have a difficult time making small-talk. I have nothing to talk about most of the time, and I feel and act like an idiot. Yet, I love to watch some of the most complex and abstract videos and lectures on the internet, and science-fiction doesn't come close to the sci-fi I generate in my own mind. What's going on here? I have really found no one who I can really relate to, and I am very lonely. I doubt that things will improve. It seems as though too much water has gone under the bridge, and things have gone too far wrong, for this sad story to have a happy ending. All of this seems to be an exercise in futility. Perhaps this thread should be renamed 'Solar System Governance in the Hands of a Completely Ignorant Fool'. I wish I were kidding.

    I have no idea what I'm supposed to be doing. Perhaps I should try to imitate Alex Jones, and promote the United States of the Solar System with a bullhorn and a three-hour daily internet show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acPoAQOYzcQ Perhaps I should imitate Dr. Robert H. Schuller. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU0UauZ6KGE Maybe I should imitate Anna. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIQcD2FfGeM&feature=related Can you imagine orthodoxymoron as a composite of Alex Jones, Robert Schuller, and Anna!! Actually, that might not be a bad idea. Seriously. Well then, I'd better get busy! I've got work to do!! Or, should I try to improvise like Pierre Cochereau? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rig6b-jogg It might be cool to be a composite of Robert Schuller and Fred Swann, promoting a Positive Response Ability Based United States of the Solar System!!! Seriously, I'd rewrite Schuller's sermons and use Fred's hymn improvisations! And once in a while, I'd let-go with an Alex Jones rant!! Let Go, and Let God!!! The Bliss!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHTD4onNs-U&NR=1

    Once again, I don't think anything is for certain, and I certainly don't think that everyone is going to be happy anytime soon. I simply think that we should assume that we keep getting recycled in this solar system, and that it's up to us to create a solar system paradise. I continue to be opposed to false-flag terrorism, deliberately inflicted earth-changes, planned wars, enslavement of any kind, or any kind of extermination events. If we are in prison, the jailers should at least be better than the inmates. Mass Murder is not a Family Value. I am extremely upset with the state of the world, and with modern civilization. We seem to have created a very sophisticated toilet and slaughterhouse on this prison planet in rebellion. Am I mentally-ill because all of this madness bothers me so much? Are those who don't know and don't care the ones we should pattern our lives after? I get the feeling that this thing is going to just keep grinding on and on, and that we will continue to lack real warmth and spirituality as a race. I'm mad at the so-called 'regressives', but I'm mad at us too. Would civilization really collapse if the politicians, scientists, and clergy stopped lying to us, and started telling us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? I once heard Dr. Walter Martin say that the young people were honest. I also heard him suggest studying the Bible, but not talking to people directly about theology and scripture. I think Dr. Robert H. Schuller did that, but I still think that ministry lost it's way, at some point. One of the first Schuller books, 'Move Ahead With Possibility Thinking' was probably one of the best. I don't want a Godless Society, but I certainly don't want the Religious Insanity which has plagued humanity for thousands of years. I want all nations and religions to be RESPONSIBLE, but I don't wish to specify or dictate the details to them. There can be responsible Atheists, Agnostics, Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Muslims, Capitalists, Constitutionalists, Communists, Socialists, et al. I would insist upon responsibility throughout the solar system, in a Brave New Solar System aka the United States of the Solar System. People should feel safe to do what they want to do, even if they are completely ignorant fools, and are engaging in strange and seemingly irrational behavior. But they must do whatever they want in a completely responsible manner. Beware of the Responsibility Police!!! What would Alex Jones say??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myFwr8bV7Dg

    Unrelatedly, what is the point of the stock-market? Is it simply the world's biggest casino? Does a successful trader or investor really make a contribution to society, or are they sophisticated thieves? Greed, fear, and deception seem to be at the top of the list of what drives the stock-market. Is the market rigged and corrupt? What would happen if we didn't have a stock-market at all? Or what would happen if Day-Trading were forbidden? How would my idea of a 5% Federal Point of Sale Tax affect the stock-market? Human beings seem to need to play games. Games of all kinds. We need challenges. Is the stock-market merely one more game that people play? Does it place money in the hands of the clever, and remove it from those who are stupid, or who fail to do their homework? When one owns stock, they don't own part of the company. What if people had to go directly to a company, and become a part-owner? The United States is doing a lot of money moving, but what about production? On the other hand, is industrialization and technology really in the best interests of humanity? Perhaps the Amish and the Monks have the right idea. What if we pale-faces had adopted the culture and life-style of the Native Americans, instead of stealing their land and slaughtering them? Is China really becoming a better place with it's industrialization? What if the whole world became much less industrialized and technological? I'm not necessarily against either, but I think we're killing ourselves. I think the guilt and absurdities throughout human history are reprehensible to the nth degree. I think we've screwed-up BIG TIME, and that we continue to blow it. We never seem to learn. The regressives might have a point, but I still want to find constructive ways to reign-in our stupidity and unethical behavior. I desire more sane ways to manage the insanity. I continue to be VERY DISAPPOINTED that no one will engage in any sort of an ongoing intelligent conversation with me. Perhaps I should start a secret society, or at least a think-tank, with maybe a couple of dozen members, who are devoted to a completely non-corrupt and highly-ethical manipulation of society from the shadows. But how long would such a thing remain non-corrupt? Probably not for very long, which is why I should probably just keep doing what I'm doing, by brainstorming in a completely open and naive manner, with no smoke-filled rooms and hacking-laughter...

    TO BE A LEADER - ONE MUST BE A LIAR. RIGHT? APPEARANCES ARE EVERYTHING. RIGHT? ACT LIKE GOD. LIVE LIKE THE DEVIL. RIGHT? TO RISE TO THE TOP, ONE MUST SLEEP WITH SATAN. RIGHT? THE CORRUPT RULE THE STUPID. RIGHT? THOSE WITH THE GOLD - RULE. RIGHT? SATAN, LUCIFER, AND THE REGRESSIVES (SOUNDS LIKE A PUNK-ROCK GROUP) HAVE MERELY EXPLOITED THE GREED, FEAR, AND STUPIDITY OF HUMANITY. RIGHT? YOU ALL HATE ME, DON'T YOU? OR MAYBE YOU JUST DON'T GIVE A DAMN. WELL, I'M MAD AT HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE. I WILL CONTINUE TO BE A THINK-TANK OF ONE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT DOES ANY GOOD, OR NOT. I'LL PROBABLY SPEND A LOT OF TIME LISTENING TO ALEX JONES, BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY SEEMS TO GIVE A DAMN. IT'S LIKE 'NETWORK' EVERY DAY. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WINDtlPXmmE&feature=related 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlcJnZBPQEc VIEWER DISCRETION ADVISED - BECAUSE I HAVE NONE. SOME OF YOU HYPER-CRITICAL RETENTIVE-HYPOCRITES NEED TO OVERDOSE ON EX-LAX. NOW I'M GOING TO CALM-DOWN, AND LISTEN TO ALEX JONES. THEN, I'LL LISTEN TO DANA, SHERRY, AND TREEE - TO TRY TO GET MY HEAD TOGETHER. THEY ALWAYS GIVE ME SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1347-three-interesting-ladies ONE MORE THING. DON'T WORRY ABOUT ME. SMART-ALECS ALWAYS END-UP HANGING THEMSELVES. JUST KEEP FEEDING THE ROPE... scratch

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    IF WE COULD ONLY GET ALEX JONES TO PUT HIS ARM AROUND DAVID ROCKEFELLER...

    Here is an interesting, but sometimes sickening, behind the scenes look at the Viet Nam War, from the perspective of the Vietnamese.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8420071240361070544#docid=1919775245219225387
    I had a Vietnamese friend, who grew-up in Vietnam during the Vietnam War, and would sleep through most bombing-raids, unless the bombs started getting really close and loud!! I witnessed him sleeping right next to a very loud alarm clock!! I am supportive of a strong military - with a non-lethal military branch - but I am dead-set against war. Hurting and Killing Each Other is the Epitome of Stupidity.

    War is a sin. War is insane. War is hell.
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    Here is another look at the Viet Nam War, from a German/American perspective. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3zw7g_little-dieter-1_news
    It is unimaginable what people had to go through during the Viet Nam War (and all wars). We need to end all wars. Period. War is a Racket. What would Smedley Butler say?
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    I just want you all to know that I think this thread is worthy of your consideration, even with all of it's speculation and smart-alec comments. I also want you to know that all is not well with me personally, and that it hasn't been, throughout my entire life. Something has been, and continues to be, very wrong. I don't know what it is, but I think it might have something to do with the spiritual warfare thing. Nothing seems to help. I seem to have lived a miserable and non-productive life, even though I have tried to do just the opposite. It feels as though I am supernaturally targeted for some reason. Once again, I'm going to try to exit stage-left, and nurse my wounds in silence, for the rest of my life. Thanks again for your contributions to innovative and progressive conceptualizations of solar system governance. Unfortunately, I suspect that we will continue to be ruled by secrecy and deception, and that achieving a Perfected Humanity in a Perfected Solar System will continue to be illusive. It seems as if we will not be allowed to be too successful as a race. It seems as if we will stay in jail, and continue to be tortured and killed, as sacrificial lambs, for who knows what reasons. I am very disillusioned with the universe, at this point. I started-out trying to solve my problems and the world's problems, but my pseudointellectual research seems to have made things exponentially worse. I seem to have made the gods and goddesses extremely unhappy with me. I suspect that this has been the case for a very long time, lifetime after lifetime after lifetime. My conceptualizing and writing skills are sort of ok, but you would be very unimpressed with me in real life. I am very unimpressed with myself. On the other hand, I think I could read through sensitive classified files on all manner of subjects, including aliens, star-wars, underground-bases, the secret space program, the secret government, etc, etc, etc, and write well thought-out and rational analysis and recommendation reports. But then, in the D.U.M.B. Cafeteria, I wouldn't be able to carry on much of a conversation, and I'd probably sit in a corner, all by myself. I guess my plans are to think about a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System, in a wide variety of contexts. I want to try to think this thing through from as many angles as possible. I'd like to be able to constructively deal with all races, religions, and countries. I needed help with this subject, but very little seemed to materialize, and possibly there were legitimate reasons why. I keep feeling as though there are numerous individuals, who know the whole story, but are carefully keeping it from me, and possibly for legitimate reasons. Whatever the case may be, I'm super sick of this stupid game. Rational and honest conversation might've been nice, but it might be a little late in the game for that. Many years ago, Dr. Bruce Larson asked me how we should properly process all of the conflicting and confusing information in the world? I didn't have a proper answer then, and I don't have one now, but I now realize how profound and important his question was. You might wish to take a close look at the books and ministry of Dr. Bruce Larson. I have joked around a lot, and been quite irreverent, but at the core of my soul, I am very serious and reverent. Know that light, truth, justice, and righteousness will triumph.

    Consider the following areas of study and speculation:

    1. Babylon, Egypt, Greece, and Rome before Akhenaten.
    2. Babylon, Egypt, Greece, and Rome after Akhenaten and before Jesus Christ.
    3. Babylon, Egypt, Greece, and Rome after Jesus Christ until 800-900 A.D.
    4. Babylon, Egypt, Greece, and Rome from 800-900 A.D. up to the Present, noting especially the role of the Teutonic Knights and Teutonic Zionism in all of it's forms.

    1. The Old World Order. (Led by Isis?)
    2. The New World Order. (Led by Amen Ra?)
    3. The New Solar System. (Led by Horus?)

    1. Gabriel. (Isis?)
    2. Lucifer. (Amen Ra?)
    3. Michael. (Horus?)

    Chain of Command?
    1. Draconian Reptilian Queen of Heaven.
    2. Hybrid Hermaphrodite God of This World. (who manifests as male, female, black, white, ?????)
    3. Hybrid Elites.
    4. Human Elites.
    5. Human Front-Men and Errand-Boys. (Patriarchy)
    6. The Rest of Us.

    1. Old World Order - Positive and Negative Aspects - Past, Present, and Future. Problem? Thesis?
    2. New World Order - Positive and Negative Aspects - Past, Present, and Future. Reaction? Antithesis?
    3. New Solar System - Positive and Negative Aspects - Past, Present, and Future. Solution? Synthesis?

    I could say a lot more, but I'm done for now. I'm tired of kicking against the pricks, although it might be fun to kick dick again! (from Avalon 1) Just keep thinking about Ancient Egypt and Teutonic Zionism, with an emphasis on the archangelic roles in the history and future of the solar system. Remember, this is a HUGE subject, and it won't necessarily make you happy. You could study 24/7, for your entire life (if you didn't need to sleep!), and I doubt that you would get everything figured-out and neatly packaged. The confusion and pain are seemingly ongoing. Again, consider this thread as being a study-guide. Consider me as being a smart-alec at the back of the room. I can't imagine delivering a speech from the New York Mothership, or participating in a press-conference on 'Meet the Depressed'. But I suppose that professional speech-writers, endless practice-sessions, chip-implantation, mind-control, teleprompters, drugs, and an extreme makeover would work wonders. I think this sort of thing goes on all the time, possibly in underground bases. But really, I'm not that kind of guy. I'm genuinely trying to be on everyone's side, even though this is probably impossible. I continue to fly-blind, and I continue to attempt neutrality, as I continue to have no animosity toward anyone. But full disclosure might change everything. I'm starting to figure this out, and it's destroying me. I'm going down fast, and I need to pull the rip-cord. I'm descending at terminal velocity through flight level 2,000. Unfortunately, Jaws, Silas, and a Brutal Gang of Dracs are waiting for me on the ground! Fair warning. If you ever talk directly with me, I might ask a lot of questions, and make a lot of comments, which might make you mad at me. I might seem like a two-faced, back-stabbing s.o.b. Friendly (in a distant sort of way) but trenchant. Don't take it personally. Don't be frightened. I mean no harm. I am of peace. Always.

    Note the following, very carefully. Consider combining 1. Orthodoxymoron (this thread, with all linked material), 2. Alex Jones (shows and documentaries), and 3. Dr. Robert H. Schuller (especially his books and broadcasts during 1965-2000). Consider internalizing these three, and exhibiting the best aspects of Anna externally! (in an appropriately masculine and feminine manner) I realize that sounds idiotic, but I'm a bit different, to say the least! Good Anna v Bad Anna? Who knows? Rewatch the entire 'V' series (old and new) with this paragraph in mind. All of this confusing-madness and thrashing-about has caused me to conclude that I don't know much of anything about anything. That is not simply a becoming humility. I mean it. Anyway, that's all folks. I'm going underground. Perhaps you should too. It might be later than we think. Taking the easy way, isn't an easy way.

    This is a cool song by 'The 2nd Chapter of Acts'. Some of the verses are taken from Proverbs 17:28, Matthew 11:28/30, and Matthew 28:18/20. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYty8FhaLXk&feature=autoplay&list=AVGxdCwVVULXfSORpSSOyuJVnKIxRP_AqJ&index=9&playnext=8

    All of my life they said be quiet
    Be quiet for crying out loud
    Taking the easy way isn't an easy way
    Even a fool when he is silent
    People will think he's wise
    Taking the easy way isn't an easy way
    In your footprints this is what I read
    Tell the children
    Tell them what I said
    Tell all nations
    Tell them I'm not dead
    My yoke is easy and my burden is light
    My yoke is easy and my burden is light
    I might be taken by my sadness and still be filled with joy
    Taking the easy way isn't an easy way
    I have taken to sing my silent song
    Taking the easy way isn't an easy way
    My hearts bursting, bursting with your Word
    I will tell them, tell them what I've heard
    Some though brokenhearted will be cured
    For there is healing, healing in Your wings
    Yes, there is healing, healing in Your wings
    So I take you into my weakness
    I'm weak but You are strong
    Taking the easy way isn't an easy way
    Learning of You has made me give up
    Give up all that I am
    Taking the easy way isn't an easy way
    Transformation in every word
    Relocation, hell to heavenward
    Education says that You're absurd
    Taking the narrow road isn't an easy way
    Taking the narrow road isn't an easy way
    Taking the easy way isn't an easy way
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    THE GREATEST POSSIBILITY THINKER WHO EVER LIVED...

    I recently heard Gerald Celente championing the concept of 'Direct Democracy', wherein everyone votes directly on every issue, rather than depending on often corrupt and incompetent politicians to think and vote for us. As I have stated repeatedly, I like the idea of a combination of direct electorate voting and a constitutional representative republic. I like the idea of everyone voting on every issue, and comprising perhaps 50% of the vote, with the votes of the elected representatives comprising the other 50% of the vote. I continue to like the idea of elected representatives in a United States of the Solar System, all having PhD's in Solar System Studies and Governance. Also, if the general public were to be involved in direct democracy voting, perhaps they should have at least a two-year degree in Governance, to be able to participate in such a program. Do you see my point? I don't want a mob-rule free for all, and I don't want us ruled by corrupt and stupid nitwits in smoke-filled rooms, laughing at the stupid sheeple, with hacking-laughter and contempt. Do you see my point? Today, I'm watching 'Invisible Empire'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=NO24XmP1c5E&NR=1 It's really quite good. Again, I don't simply want to engage in throwing stones. I really wish to understand. Someone recently asked me who I would like to be taught by, regarding Solar System Governance. I responded, that even though I didn't really like them, I would want to spend some quality-time with David Rockefeller, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Henry Kissinger, George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush (sorry for all of the funny pictures below), Dick Cheney, Bill and Hillary Clinton, President Obama, Various CEO's, the Queen, the Pope, the Black Pope, the Rothschilds, the Queen of Heaven, and God of This World - just to get their side of the story. Some might be shocked by this damaging admission, but I really and truly am not trying to win a popularity contest. This continues to be a very serious form of entertainment for me, but I refuse to take this too seriously. My endgame is simply to achieve a Brave New Solar System, which Maximizes Long-Term and Sustainable Responsible Freedom in the Context of a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System. I simply wish to keep doing what I'm doing, but perhaps in a more sophisticated and refined manner. But obviously, I don't know the whole story, and it would be important to know the whole story, before saying anything too definitely and confidently. This is why I mostly ask questions and provide links. I like to talk under certain circumstances, but I'm a dud at a party. I am definitely not a party animal, at this point, but who knows what the future holds? I just think people need to become lifelong researchers, and speak in responsive, rather than reactionary, ways. Unfortunately, I've come to the sad conclusion, that the best conversations I engage in, are with myself, or imaginary conversations with various speakers, actors, actresses, or authors. It's really quite strange. I'm not good at small-talk at all. I prefer communicating with people on the internet, as impersonal as that is. I need to get out more. I once held an apple box next to my head, and told a Chris Rock ('Rufus' in 'Dogma') look-alike, that I liked to think outside of the box. He told me about 'Dogma' and the 'Golgothan', but I didn't watch it until long after I had met the 'cast'. I spent quite a bit of time with 'Rufus' and 'Bartleby' (or was it Azrael?), especially the latter. I think Bartleby and Loki pulled-up next to me in their car, when I was out walking my dog, and Loki looked at me very intently and strangely for at least 10 seconds. I hadn't seen 'Dogma' yet, so it didn't register. I think I've met the 'Last Scion' and possibly 'Serendipity'. I knew a Loki-Like many years ago. He spoke of big-time spiritualism in Ancient Egypt. It makes me wonder. It really makes me wonder. Just keep feeding the rope... scratch geek
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    What if the New World Order really started in Ancient Egypt? Something catastrophic happened, but I don't know exactly what. I believe in Michael/Jesus, but not necessarily in the standard story. I think the real story has been carefully hidden. I'm really more conservative than the most devout Latin Mass Catholic, in many ways, yet I'm sort of a basket-case smart-alec. I'm all over the charts, and I can't even figure myself out. I'm in bed with no one, other than my dog. I guess I'm in bed with an idealism, which could be applied to most groups and individuals. I'm functioning at about 25%, so I'm dumber and smarter than you think. I continue to believe that I am supernaturally targeted, or something creepy like that. I am willing to work with anyone, but I am very suspicious of everyone. I don't even trust myself, or my dog. Please spend a lot of time researching Ancient Egypt and Teutonic Zionism. The Black People have some very interesting things to say about Ancient Egypt. But don't get caught-up in the racial thing. I have absolutely no hatred for any groups or individuals. I just think the human race needs to stop fiddling around, and we need to really fix things on this planet, and throughout the solar system, hopefully without destroying it and ourselves. I think we're hanging-on by a thread. I really do. Sometimes one can make things worse when they try to make things better. I hope that I haven't been guilty of this, but I fear that I have. I am very worried. No, I'm very frantic.

    Unrelatedly, I just noticed an interesting picture at 1:09 of this music video. Look at the eyes of the child. Do you see anything strange, or is it just me? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op5VZhIX5bI&feature=autoplay&list=AVGxdCwVVULXfSORpSSOyuJVnKIxRP_AqJ&index=17&playnext=15 Once again, what is the true nature of the soul? I come from a religious tradition which preaches against the 'immortality of the soul'. Were the founders of this religion (SDA) trying to protect people from a dangerous aspect of human existence? I truly do not participate in any creepy activities, but creepy things still keep happening to me, uninvited. What if we are all interdimensional reptilian souls who are living in human bodies? I think this might possibly be the case, but it hasn't caused me to become any more insane than I already was. But what about the general public? Probably a third wouldn't believe it, no matter what the evidence or proof was. Probably a third would just shrug their shoulders, and take it in stride. Probably a third would go insane, in various degrees. Just speculation. Are good interdimensional reptilians really angels? Are bad interdimensional reptilians really demons? Did a third of the angels incarnate into male and female human bodies? Was this an act of rebellion? Was this the Fall? Was this the Original and Unpardonable Sin? Did this cause the War in Heaven? Are we presently in the Cold War phase of a previously Hot War? Is it impossible for Spirits in Sinful Human Flesh to perfectly obey the Law of God? Are the wages of sin really and truly death? The end of male and female human physicality? Eternal soul-death or perpetual-punishment? Damned if I know. Or damned if I am who I think I might reincarnationally be? I know I've been over this territory before, but that picture sort of got to me. All of the religions may need to redefine and reinvent themselves. I certainly do not wish to dictate what anyone should think or not think. I'll just keep asking questions.

    Unless I'm mistaken, the last comment on this thread, other than mine, was two months ago, even though I have been adding one or two posts nearly every day. I've tried to keep things light, in a serious way, and I have been craving conversation, but it just isn't happening. This thread really is dead, isn't it? I've tried to stop posting several dozen times, but I always have something to add. Perhaps I should get very serious about all of this, and become a hard-core researcher, instead of merely being an armchair smart-alec. It has been suggested that if I used a 5D approach, that I might be more successful. I really can write in a very elevated and inspirational manner. I can remain completely positive. I think I might've become a great evangelist. I once made a passioned religious appeal (along with others) to my fellow classmates in high-school, and they lined up, and gave often tearful testimonies for nearly two hours. I walked though the Greek Theater and the Hollywood Bowl, contemplating an outdoor ministry, many years ago, but nothing ever came of it. I spoke up in Bible classes, and people got mad, and tried to shut me up. I was spoken to in a stern manner by men of great experience and faith. I had doubts, and so I moved on. Was this a mistake? Should I have tried to be another Billy Graham or Robert Schuller? BTW, did they achieve high degrees in Freemasonry? Anyway, I'm pretty disgusted with this whole thing. The whole thing seems to stink from top to bottom. The good guys, the bad guys, everyone, seem to not wish to be challenged or crossed. But I think I should've done more. A lot more. I have some lame excuses, but none of them really hold water. Should I continue to think outside of the box, and challenge the status quo and cherished beliefs of just about everyone? Should I become appropriately pastoral or statesman-like? We really wish to be told what we wish to hear, don't we? We really wish to feel good about ourselves, don't we? We really wish to be proved right, don't we? What was really behind 'Oh God!'and 'Dogma'? I hadn't watched either of them until I had completed at least 75% of this thread, and I found that they were irreverent in ways a bit similar to my own posting style. What's going on here? In many respects, I am more conservative than the conservatives. In other ways, I am more liberal than the liberals.

    I feel like a fish out of water, and this has been the case throughout my life. I'd like to know who I was during my last two or three incarnations. I'd like to know who I was in my ancient incarnations. What if I were Cleopatra? What if I were related to Cleopatra? Everyone thinks they were Cleopatra, don't they?! They don't want to think that they might've been Freddy the Freeloader! What would Red Skelton say? I liked the music on the 'Red Skelton Show'. That's a funny thing to say, isn't it? I guess I lost my train of thought. Anyway, I think I need to try to be more appropriately 5D on my Highway to Heaven (Somewhere Over the Rainbow). Red could make people laugh, without using four-letter words. Perhaps I should get a Little House on the Prairie, after I get kicked-out of the one I'm in. That might make my spiritual quest a lot easier. But perhaps I should move to a mountain prairie, to avoid that wall of water. I wish I were kidding, but this is no joke. One more thing. What happened in the last half of June? I have a strange feeling that something significant occurred, but I don't know what. Might whatever it was have something to do with the absence of comments on this thread for the past two months? I feel very uneasy about this. Something seems to be amiss and creepy. I've been very troubled by the sneaky and deceptive aspects connected with trying to find out what's really going on in this solar system. Nothing is straight-forward and honest. I think this whole thing could be properly cleared-up in a proper science-fiction movie, series, or documentary. A Presidential Disclosure Speech should probably occur after everyone already knows what's going on. That speech should probably be anticlimactic. I just wish I knew what I should be doing, or not doing. The fact that no one will talk to me, makes this exponentially more difficult. This continues to feel like a very creepy game, with very high stakes. It feels like a Galactic Most Dangerous Game. What would Rainsford say? One Moor Thing. Look at the Moor's eye (below). Is the slit just an artistic touch, or is this a reptilian hybrid queen? Is there a connection between Arians, Persians, Nazis, Teutonic Zionism, and Bohemian Grove? Think about it. OK, this approach obviously doesn't work, so I should probably do some market research, and figure out what people want, and then give them what they want, right? You wouldn't believe my latest theory! I don't know if I believe it, and I'm certainly not talking about it. It's the wildest theory yet! But, if it's true, it's actually quite sad. There is a clue on this page, but that's all you're going to get. Just blame Inigo Loyola, or someone like him. Tehuti and Vegas are important. I like the desert and the palms. Especially the dates. Read 'The Jesuits' by Malachi Martin. It's a VERY interesting book. I actually like the best aspects of the Jesuits, and I sometimes think of myself as being a Renegade French Jesuit Organist, who is both a friend and enemy of the church! Isn't that strange! The Orthodoxymoron of Notre Dame! What would Arrupe say? Those of you who have been monitoring my internet activities will probably be surprised by the changes I'm about to make. They might even surprise me! Actually, I might just sit back, and enjoy the show. You might have to find someone else to criticize and laugh at. If I were in your shoes, I'd criticize and laugh at myself. Did that make sense? I really despise myself. I think I've really struck-out, and I'm very discouraged. Time to change the batter, because this one's battered to a pulp. Over and out. What would Casey say? scratch geek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLRCfBJzpo4&feature=autoplay&list=AVGxdCwVVULXfSORpSSOyuJVnKIxRP_AqJ&index=15&playnext=13
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    Should this thread morph into a Lunar Studies thread? Who is the premier Lunar Guru, in both an exoteric and esoteric sense? I think I should spend a lot of time considering the work of Richard Hoagland. http://enterprisemission.com/ There are undoubtedly many others, but are they as vocal? I wish I had access to everyone throughout the solar system!! Wouldn't that be cool!! But then I would know way, way too much!! But seriously, the Moon is quite close, and we have officially been there, regardless of whether we went there with conventional or unconvential propulsion. I tend to think that the Lunar Module used some sort of anti-gravity. Plus, there are plenty of conspiracy theories to keep one's blood pressure up! And what about thinking of the possibility of the Queen of Heaven living in a Lunar Palace? It would be cool to go to the Moon, but once the novelty wore off, would one long to be back on Earth? I think it would be cool to have a University of Solar System Studies and Governance campus on the Moon! Should I consider living in such a setting, located within Lunar Base II, using my imagination, or should I stop? What would the Nazis and Greys say?! I was just thinking about Thomas and Sophia in 'The Event'. Could Thomas be compared with the God of This World? Could Sophia be compared with the Queen of Heaven? Notice that Thomas got carried away and became a loose-cannon, while Sophia was incarcerated. Both of them could be quite nice, and incredibly cold, calculating, and violent. Do our visible world leaders have to deal with the equivalent of Thomas and Sophia? I really wonder. http://www.nbc.com/the-event/video/arrival/1329374

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    Here is some very wild speculation. Read this with extreme discernment, and take it with a sea of salt. What if the World Wars were really wars between various factions of Teutonic Zionists? Or between various factions of Gizeh Intelligence? Were we really dealing with a sort of a Gang War or a Weapons Deal Gone Bad? Crips v Bloods? When we speak of Aryan, are we really speaking of Blond Hair and Blue Eyes? I don't think so. Are we really dealing with Secret Government v Secret Government? Are we dealing with Kabbalists and Nazis? Or are we dealing with Kabbalistic Nazis? How dark and deep is this thing? Each side probably has well thought out justifications for their often brutal and reprehensible actions, but I am very fearful that we are on the verge of exterminating ourselves, or being enslaved by an unimaginable Theocracy and Technocracy. If this occurs, we will undoubtedly blame everyone other than ourselves, but we will still be existing in a living hell. This might be an excellent time to REALLY think this thing through, from cause to effect, rather than just trying to get more, more, more, while the world goes to hell. I suspect that the elites are in more danger than the peons, because they are in too deep, and know too much. The DUMB's might very well become TOMBS. Face yourselves, and think, while we still have a chance.

    Could my idealistic and well-intentioned Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System be used as a stepping-stone by an Evil and Corrupt Secret Government? Could I become a naive and unwitting pawn of the Corrupt Powers That Be? It certainly wouldn't surprise me. If my cherished United States of the Solar System were implemented exactly as I envision it, I wouldn't be jumping up and down, or gloating triumphantly. I would probably be in seclusion, working around the clock, to attempt to anticipate problems, and to preemptively create solutions. I really don't think the United States of America was founded free and clear on a clean-sheet of paper. I think there were strings attached. No, I think there were thick steel-cables attached. I think these cables are still attached. I suspect a Constitutional Theocracy. Could the United States of America have been a Teutonic Zionist project? Think about it. Could there be a good and a bad side to this alleged phenomenon? I think so, which is why I think we need to look at the positives and negatives of EVERYONE and EVERYTHING, rather than dealing in broad generalizations. A Brave New Solar System should incorporate the best of the past, no matter who or what these best aspects might've been associated with. I would want to look very closely at both the Old and New World Orders, when determining the character and content of a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System. The infrastructure of the present factions of secret government might be left mostly intact, while being cleaned-up and reformed. We shouldn't try to fix what isn't broken. We shouldn't attempt to reinvent the wheel. We should simply try to make it round and true. I'd like to think of this as being a Non-Hostile Takeover, with No Poison Pills or Scuttling in Absensia. I truly wish to do that which is in EVERYONE'S BEST INTEREST. If this weren't the case, we would doom ourselves to endless hatred and warfare, and ultimately exterminate ourselves. If we fumbled the ball, the same old bad guys and gals might very well be back in the saddle within twenty years, with extreme prejudice and vengence. Think long and hard about what I just said, but don't strain yourselves. Sorry, but sometimes sarcasm is irresistible!

    I just feel like Spaceship Earth is out of control, and that it is heading toward a horrible fate. I feel like I am one of millions, or billions, who are frantically trying to get this runaway train under control. I hope that an interplanetary team of PhD Representatives, with Educated Constituents, will be able to keep this beast under control. This whole thing is very iffy and precarious. The consequences of failure are unimaginable. I'm not happy Pre-USSS, and I doubt that I will be happy with a fully implemented and operational USSS. There are just too many problems and potential problems. There is too much horrific and bloody history to ever forget, and to be happy and care-free ever again. Perhaps many church services will be memorials to those who suffered and died on the Road to Utopia. Hopefully, the cost of doing business in a Brave New Solar System will simply be Hard Work, with No Criminal-Violence or Warfare Whatsoever. Could there be such a thing as a Responsible Free Enterprise Workers Paradise? I don't see why not. I sure don't relish Bourgeois v Proletariat class warfare. How about one big stratified and competitive middle-class, with no destitute-poor, and no non-compassionate use of accumulated wealth? How hard is this? This isn't Multivariable Calculus, Nuclear Physics, or Quantum Mechanics. This isn't even Rocket Science, but I guess we're not dealing with Rocket Scientists, now are we? I successfully resisted sarcasm for a whole paragraph. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. And sorry, I couldn't just pick on 'W'.

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    orthodoxymoron wrote:Once again, this thread is intended to be a mental and spiritual exercise. I try to make you think, laugh, get mad, get scared, and look at a lot of different things from a lot of different angles. Take all of this seriously, but not too seriously. I am trying to help us avoid the 'Deer in the Headlights' phenomenon, in connection with all of the controversial, confusing, and conflicting material. It's a combination of a zoo and a jungle out there, and I don't think things are going to get any easier any time soon. In fact, I think things might get a lot worse, and they might not get better for a very long time. But do try to treat all of this as science fiction, which might contain some truth, and if it gets too hard to deal with, just move on to something else. A lot of my writing is speculative and intuitive, and I have not exhaustively researched the topics which I address. But I have tried to get as close to the truth as I possibly can, and I have not tried to deceive or mislead anyone. I have also not tried to make a fast buck, although judging from my dismal financial situation, I probably should have. I might write some sort of a science fiction book to try to help pay my bills. Take everything I say with a sea of salt, and with extreme discernment. Probably half of what I say is utter BS, or pure, unmitigated popycock. Consider all of this to be a grand adventure, even if it is very difficult and painful for you. We will all make it through this madness somehow. Namaste.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:44 am

    I don't know where the lying and deception stops, and the truth begins. I suspect a lot of clues throughout history, but if we are all a bunch of prisoners, no one could really speak plainly and clearly. My latest theories and fears are stated in this repost below. Everyone seems to be waiting for the Antichrist, the Alien Invasion, the New World Order, and the Second Coming of Christ, but what if Christ has been a prisoner, along with all the rest of us? What if the Alien Invasion and the creation of the New World Order occurred in ancient Atlantis, Babylon, or Egypt, and that we've just been experiencing various types of torture for thousands of years? What if we are in our last days on Death Row? Sorry for the gloom, but things have gotten quite bad on the home front, and it's probably spilling over into my posting. I'm trying to stop. James Casebolt made a post on my 'Gizeh Intelligence' thread on the old Project Avalon. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11123 In another thread, he seemed to endorse the first couple of posts of the 'Gizeh Intelligence' thread, if I'm not mistaken. '34,'54,'64. Could these have been staged events? I don't think these guys just showed up. I think they've been here for a very long time. In fact, they might've arrived when we arrived. What if we are all interdimensional reptilian at the soul-level, and simply differ by our being subject to various aspects of environmental and genetic manipulation? What if our jailers are our relatives? Obviously, I can't prove this, but I really wonder. I think we've been on the brink of extinction for at least a hundred years, and I don't see things improving anytime soon.

    I have an incredible sense of dread. I am very concerned about an Irresponsible Humanity and Angry, Jealous, Vengeful Gods of Eden. I feel as though I have nowhere to turn, and that I have no friends. What is, is not necessarily right. Might does not necessarily make right. I am pretty much disgusted and despondent regarding the situation and circumstances existing in this Solar System. I'm troubled by both the inmates and the jailers. I feel as though we are facing the end of Male and Female Human Physicality, and that we would probably be shocked, and probably will be shocked, by the fate which awaits us in the near future. Consider very carefully the Science Fiction and Disaster Movies and Television Series of the Past Couple of Decades. Watch them over and over and over again, and look for clues. I will be doing some of this myself, but others, with greater intellectual and technological resources, need to do this. I really do seek a resolution, which is in everyone's best interests, but it's hard to know what to say or do, when I don't really know what the hell is going on. Everything continues to be obscure, sneaky, and sinister. I will continue to pursue a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System, unless and until, something vastly superior emerges, which has stood the test of time, and which would actually work in this Solar System Context. I continue to feel haunted, taunted, and attacked, and that my questions, speculations, and proposed-solutions are not welcome. I really think we're just about out of time. This whole thing does not appear to be about ethics. It seems to be all about obedience. Remember at the beginning of the movie 'Brides of Christ' where OBEDIENCE was emphasized? I don't have a problem with Authority and Obedience, but I do have a problem with the Abuse of Power. Can Theocracy and Democracy be properly and safely combined? Was the Nuremberg Defense 'Just Following Orders' a legitimate defense? What about the 'Twinkie Defense'? What would Dan White say? I honestly believe in Reverence and Respect, but there are dangers connected with Unquestioning Obedience. Very grave dangers indeed. How does one properly question one who is seemingly infinitely superior to themselves? At what point is disobedience the right thing to do? I really wanted to discuss politics and religion, in the deepest and most profound manner imaginable, but this hasn't happened. We haven't even started talking about this. I'm a rather quiet male, but I feel like the stereotypical wife, who babbles on and on and on, while her husband silently hides behind the morning newspaper. I still wish to talk, but I'm not going to hold my breath, waiting for meaningful and useful conversation. Actually, with the chemtrails, and who knows what else, perhaps I should hold my breath, at least when I'm outside. Perhaps I should stop going for my daily walks. I really feel like we are on Death Row. Or, maybe I am on Death Row. Perhaps everyone else will enjoy the bliss of paradise, once orthodoxymoron is gone. Ding-Dong, Namaste, and Have a Nice Day. Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me. Amen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srP3FXW0Dpo&feature=related
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    One more time. One last time? I'd like to be like President Martinez in 'The Event', but it's a bit late for that. Perhaps in my next life. http://www.nbc.com/the-event/video/arrival/1329374 Consider the Planet X and Elenin (extermination-level event?) parallels in this episode. I still think it would be cool if all of the renegade piloted-planets, piloted-comets, piloted-dwarf-stars, piloted-asteroids, piloted-moons, subsurface-bases, ufo's, etc., became part of a Brave New Solar System aka the United States of the Solar System, and I'm not speaking of a harsh, dictatorial, and Nazi-like solar system. Not the Old World Order. Not the New World Order. But the New Solar System, based upon Responsibility and an uncorrupted-form of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights, appropriately adapted and applied to the entire solar system. Perhaps Nibiru (if it really exists) could orbit 1 astronomical-unit beyond the orbit of Pluto. Pluto and Nibiru for Planethood!! I will continue to think about Solar System Governance because of my insecurity and disillusionment with the bullshit. I think the truth is really, really bad, and I doubt there is a satisfying solution. The antediluvian world was supposedly surrounded by some sort of a mist, which did not exist post-deluge. Is there any evidence of such a mist, and what it might've consisted of? The chem-trails (laced with radioactive materials?), Fukushima (deliberately inflicted?), and weather modification (courtesy of HAARP?) might be designed to produce conditions conducive to certain life-forms. Is this possible? Some speak of the 'veil being lifted'. What are they referring to? Are we going to be dealing with zombies, giants, and plf's? How might orgone affect humans and other than humans, physically and on a soul-level? I'm feeling a tremendous sense of dread. Perhaps I should make my shallow underground civilian base a bit deeper. Can you dig it? In the biblical record, Adam lived to the ripe, old age of 939 earth years, but in a very short time period, people were lucky to make it to 100. What the hell happened? That can't possibly be blamed on 'The Fall' can it? Then, 'God' was sorry that 'he' created 'man', and committed genocide, nearly wiping-out the entire human race. In Babylon, 'God' seemed to forbid a One World Government and the Unification of Humanity. I am not a slave to the biblical scrolls, but I do think they contain important clues. Has anyone read any Ralph Ellis books, such as 'Jesus: Last of the Pharaohs'? How about any of Gerald Massey's books, such as 'The Historical Jesus and the Mythical Christ'? Both authors focus upon the intersection of Biblical Studies and Egyptology. Does anyone have any thoughts regarding Biblical Egyptology? What about Michael / Horus / Mithras / Jesus / ??? as being a reincarnating archangel, or even a reptilian queen on a soul-level?

    Perhaps a forbidden genetic hybridization program resulted in an undesirable and threatening product of conception, namely the human race. I am interested in idealistic government and religion, and even the constructive combining of the two, but I'm not seeing much of a solid historical foundation for this sort of thing. Is the human race predestined to defeat, by divine design? Am I getting warm (due to increased levels of radioactivity?), or am I just cracking-up? Sometimes I feel like a potted-plant. What would Brendan Sullivan say? Anyway, has anyone read or re-read 'Megatrends' or 'Future Shock' lately, to see how things have played-out in relation to the forecasts and projections? Should I be reading Daniel and the Revelation in the Holy Bible, for the real-deal about the future? Should I try to change the future, or is it pretty-much already determined? Have the gods and goddesses made up their minds what they're going to do with us, or to us? Or, has the Creator God of the Universe decided what to do with the gods and goddesses - and with us? Is the ball in our court, or not? I guess I'm seeking a productive partnership of the Human and the Divine, whatever that really means. Where does the BS stop, and the truth begin? Which Heins 57 varieties of religion and philosophy do we embrace? How shall we then live? Should we just eat, drink, and be merry, as we prepare to die? Should I rent a Ferrari, and do my version of 'On the Beach'? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upg2eqNbF3w&feature=related Most days I feel like Daniel Jackson at that lecture, where everyone walked out, in the movie 'Stargate'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq1RPu2aaU4 Some days I just feel like a Cipher in the Snow. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw8_ZZviedI 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGXfZFlb46U&feature=related I wish I were joking about the last couple of sentences and links. I think I'll try to cheer myself up by making a pot of coffee, having a shower, and re-watching '2012'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcpCUh3djoI&feature=relmfu This is no joke, but I think I can hear the universe laughing behind my back. Maybe it's the Dracs on the Moon and Phobos, or maybe it's the cars going up and down my street. BTW, did you guys get my message? One more thing. Maybe I should take another look at 'The Aquarian Conspiracy' by Marilyn Ferguson, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Ferguson and perhaps I should re-listen to John Todd, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Todd_(occultist) (you gotta read this wiki link!!) or perhaps I should just shut-up, and eat that frozen lasagna. One more thing. I wish I had gotten better acquainted with Carol Rosin and Edgar Mitchell. I really enjoyed talking with them, and in retrospect I think I should've followed-through on my visits to Whole Life Expos. I think I blew-it, and now it's too late. But regardless of my regrets and fears, I think I'll continue to try to imagine myself on the inside, but in an idealistic sense, if you know what I mean. I really don't want to rant and rave at anyone. I just want to try to imagine the realities of the day to day operation of this solar system. Past, present, and future. I suppose this might involve placing myself in the shoes of the Queen of Heaven, and God of This World. I know this is delusional, but might this provide the best perspective for understanding this Solar System? Past, present, and future? Well folks, is it time for probation to close? Is it time to close the books, and render an Investigative Judgment? Is it time to stand before a Holy God, without a Mediator? The jokes are over, folks. I suspect that this has happened repeatedly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-8b5SDMR1k&feature=fvsr I do not want this to happen again. Face yourselves, and think.


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    "EXCUSE ME. WHERE'S THE NEAREST RESTROOM?"

    Warning. The following post simply outlines a possible area of study. It does not contain an editorial bias. My questions are sometimes rhetorical. The following questions are not. Is there a connection between the Ashkenazi Jews and Teutonic Zionism? Was the Holocaust an attempt to rid Teutonic Zionism of the Jewish component? How does the Kabbalah fit into this subject? What can reasonably be derived from the term 'Ashkenazi'? Is there a Gizeh Intelligence connection? Here is the wiki link for Ashkenazi. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews I am simply taking a closer look at the Nazis and the Holocaust, in the context of the esoteric and conspiracy research. It continues to be my conviction that factions contain factions - some good, and some bad. What if the most powerful factions in the world, for at least a thousand years, have had some connection to the term 'Teutonic Zionism'? Please don't send the ADL after me. I'm not that kind of guy. I simply think the history of the world and solar system are very complex and messy, complete with hidden factions and covert wars. My primary goal in this thread is to try to unite most, or all, of the various factions into some sort of a constructive whole, where all of them can reach most of their goals, other than destroying or enslaving their enemies! Also, how might the Vatican and Ancient Egypt fit into all of this? Those who really rule the world and solar system are undoubtedly into everything, with certain key individuals and organizations serving as pawns and gofers. They probably all hope to have their particular faction eventually dominate all of the other factions. This might be a vain and fatal delusion. The real rulers might not give a damn about any of the factions. They are all probably just minions and errand-boys, even though they probably think they're special and part of the inner circle. I think this world and solar system are rotten to the core, but other than what I've presented in this thread, I don't have a clue how to make things right. And really, even if we did make things right, many of the problems would persist. I will not promise anyone a rose garden, and I will not lead anyone down the primrose path. Hopefully my good intentions will not pave the road to hell. But frankly, it wouldn't surprise me. I mean well, but I don't think I have a clue. The infowar is already pretty nasty, but I think it's going to get a lot worse. But still, I support a well-moderated, and under-control infowar. Just don't expect it to make you happy. Here is yet another example of the often bitter infowar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvjTayq3Tuk Here is an interesting looking twelve-part documentary regarding the so called 'Khazar Jews'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Haj-CJOERTs&feature=related I'll be watching this for the next couple of hours. What am I getting involved in??!! Is there possibly a Persian connection in all of this? I like the theory of America, yet when one takes a closer look, the history is horrible. How could all of the atrocities happen, when the founding documents and intentions of the founders seemed so noble? Have you read the 'Federalist Papers' and the 'Anti-Federalist Papers'? Taking this a step further, could the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Native-American Holocaust, and the Jewish Holocaust all be related? What about the many atrocities and mass-murders in the Old Testament of the Holy Bible? What is the common thread? BTW, why don't we include all of the various races who were butchered in World War II when we speak of the Holocaust? Are we on the brink of yet another holocaust at the hands of the same hidden forces? Perhaps we'd better think fast. Please remember, I am trying to be on everyone's side, even though this is probably impossible. I'm really just trying to understand. Unfortunately, there are a lot of cross people with cross purposes. We all seem to get in each other's way, don't we?? What if the human race really does need to be externally-ruled with an iron-fist by malevolent-regressives, simply because we can't work things out, and get along with each other??? I continue to have HUGE problems with BOTH the Human Race and the Gods of Eden. Most of the researchers who have huge problems with the Secret Government, also have huge problems with the General Public. Once again, I am a combination of Incurable Optimism and Unyielding Despair. Perhaps we need both, in order to move forward in any constructive and meaningful way. The Dracs probably look at us, and then look at each other, and shake their heads. What if the Dracs have been authorized to rule over us, simply because we are so problematic? Sometimes I really wonder. Would a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System have to be implemented and maintained with a tough-loving iron-fist? Would we really need a Theocratically-Implemented, Responsibility-Based, United States of the Solar System, with absolutely no corruption, but with a titanium backbone and an iron fist? The most idealistic form of governance might make everyone angry!! It might take a couple of centuries for everyone to calm down!! Everyone might hate me for all eternity!! Just how expensive is the Stairway to Heaven? How much does it cost to keep Light on the Earth? What if the 'Lady We All Know' is an Archangel? Who's the 'Piper'? Another Archangel? It makes me wonder. It really makes me wonder... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKg4g9zMeHI

    There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold
    And she's buying a stairway to heaven
    (And) when she gets there she knows if the stores are all closed
    With a word she can get what she came for

    Ooh ooh ooh...ooh...ooh ooh ooh
    And she's buying a stairway to heaven

    There's a sign on the wall but she wants to be sure
    'Cause you know sometimes words have two meanings
    In the tree by the brook there's a songbird who sings
    Sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven

    Oooh...It makes me wonder
    Oooh...It makes me wonder

    There's a feeling I get when I look to the west
    And my spirit is crying for leaving
    In my thoughts I have seen rings of smoke through the trees
    And the voices of those who stand looking

    Oooh...It makes me wonder
    Oooh...And it makes me wonder

    And it's whispered that soon, if we all called the tune
    Then the piper will lead us to reason
    And a new day will dawn for those who stand long
    And the forest will echo with laughter

    Woe woe woe woe woe oh
    If there's a bustle in your hedgerow
    Don't be alarmed now
    It's just a spring clean for the May Queen
    Yes there are two paths you can go by
    but in the long run
    There's still time to change the road you're on

    And it makes me wonder...ohhh ooh woe

    Your head is humming and it won't go -- in case you don´t know
    The piper's calling you to join him
    Dear lady can you hear the wind blow and did you know
    Your stairway lies on the whispering wind

    And as we wind on down the road
    Our shadows taller than our souls
    There walks a lady we all know
    Who shines white light and wants to show
    How everything still turns to gold
    And if you listen very hard
    The tune will come to you at last
    When all are one and one is all, yeah
    To be a rock and not to roll
    Ooooooooooooh

    And she's buying a stairway to heaven

    The last few posts, and the past few days have taken a lot out of me, and I didn't have a lot left to take. I don't even want to talk about the particulars. But really, take a look at all of my recent posts, starting with the 'Oh, God!' post. (post#886) Just go through all of those posts, and completely watch all of the links. I have never felt more drained in my life, and I really don't have a lot left to give. I feel as though I am everyone's friend, and no one's friend. I'm on everyone's side, and no one's side. I love everyone, but I am annoyed by just about everyone. I especially annoy myself. I continue to be annoyed by the fact that for over two months now, no one has commented on this thread. But really, is this Solo Karaoke Act making me stronger? Perhaps, but in a rather strange way. The more I research and post, the less I seem to know, and the less stable I become. Isn't this strange? At this rate, I should be a Complete Idiot in a Secret Mental Institution by December 21, 2012!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NntcOTdDuxU&feature=fvsr By the way, a complete idiot has an IQ of less than 25, so I'm a bit over-qualified for that designation presently, but not by much. If you think this thread is strange, you should see what I see in my mind's eye!! All of this is so sad, that it's actually funny!! I feel a bit like that guy in the movie (can't remember which one, 'Core' maybe?) where he is deep underground, just before a huge underground nuclear detonation, which will kill him, yet he is talking into his tape-recorder, and he suddenly realizes how absurd that is!! Perhaps this thread is a bit like that!! I don't know whether to hide under the rocks, or to expect the angels to minister to me. I'm one confused dude! Dudes on Ludes shouldn't start controversial threads. Perhaps I need some R&R in that Deep Underground Reptilian Monastery under the Vatican...

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    Has anyone heard of Doris Ekker, who supposedly translated for Hatonn? The source sounds rather shaky, but the information sounds somewhat interesting, from what little I've heard, so far. Listen to this, and tell me what you think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-GdtmJD7Cw I don't know what to think. I'm just making this up as I go insane! I found this strange and interesting link regarding Doris Ekker. http://www.media.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/bellringers_corner/hello_central/doc1227740793.html BTW, when I pretended to be KRLLL, I said that I was from Pleone in the Pleiades, before I knew that there was a Pleione in the Pleiades! What are the odds? I continue to think that it's probably a good idea to listen to a wide variety of individuals and organizations, without taking any of them too seriously. Just keep researching and asking questions. Get informed, without getting mad, or going mad. Even if a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System becomes a reality, I'll probably just continue posting on this thread, or one like it, but with an entry-level Cray, in my 600 square-foot office/apartment, in my shallow underground civilian base, with a sport-model ufo in the garage! The imagination is a wonderful thing, and Google is my friend! Namaste!

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    I was just outside, looking at the moon. I watched the moonrise, and it was really cool. I spend too much time on the internet, and not enough time in nature. Also, I don't read enough books. What profiteth a man, if he gaineth the whole solar system, but loseth his mind in the process? Perhaps I need to step away from the computer, and read books in nature, while listening to sacred classical music. The computer is turning into an intellectual and spiritual black hole, and I feel like I'm being sucked through the monitor. The lack of conversation on this thread is also a powerful reason to stop. I keep trying, and I keep falling off the wagon. I keep slipping further and further down the rabbit-hole (or is it a snake-hole?), with no bottom in sight. Perhaps the Beast Below is waiting for me. Do I still have a condom in my wallet? What would Dr. Who Do? Who? Anu? I need to take a nice break, and pull my hair out...

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    This is just a study-guide, which I am trying to rewrite presently, just as an exercise, which I doubt that I'll post. It should probably be read by those who have been struggling with controversial and esoteric subjects for a significant time period, rather than by someone who is still asleep, and doesn't have a clue regarding how problematic things really are. I want to help people, rather than destroy them. I just hope that the right humans and other than humans are dealing with all of this in an ethical and proper manner. Unfortunately, I have my doubts. I suspect that the history of this solar system has been too nasty and bitter for that. I also suspect that all of the life-forms present in this solar system are more problematic than I can imagine. I continue to realize that I know very little concerning the true state of affairs. I just wish I knew what to do to make things better. This whole thing feels like the most significant cold-case in the history of the solar system. Is this really heaven? If so, it's hard to believe. "Another day in paradise" might be more than a figure of speech. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_fzUGA7w54&feature=related Should I do an foia? Which agency? Should I turn this thread into a book? I'd sort of like to keep my house, but I'm afraid to go through the process of openly having a book published. I'd sort of like to remain incognito and back-channel. I also don't know how much of my speculation is true, and I don't know if my ideas and proposals are constructive, so I really don't wish to make a great, big deal out of this highly speculative and controversial material, and then fall flat on my face. There's really more than enough sensationalism and confusion out there presently. I don't wish to add another dimension of insanity to this crazy world. I'd almost need some sort of an insider editor/publisher to put something together, and then submit it to me for final approval, if you know what I mean? I don't even feel comfortable with this thread being on the internet. The implications and ramifications are too enormous. I get the feeling that there are those who don't like me one little bit, and I can't say that I blame them. I don't like myself, which is why I don't date. I don't wish to subject anyone to me. Am I just paranoid, or are they really out to get me? Are we facing an 'October Surprise'? What should I do? What shouldn't I do? Is 'something wonderful' going to happen, or are we truly screwed? I have no idea. But I do know that I'm going into scientist, lawyer, media-mogul, and secret-government mode, but I'm not sure what I really mean by that, other than that I'm going to stop playing softball, and start playing hardball. Richard Nixon told Jimmy Carter that "in Georgia they play softball, but in Washington they play hardball". I wonder what they play on the Darkside of the Moon? I have a feeling I'm about to find out. Perhaps we all are. The sad thing that I am universally noticing, is that the really bad beings seem to get away with just about anything and everything, but generally good beings who make a mistake get crucified. Guess who's running the show in this neck of the woods? On the other hand, how high up the universal chain of command does this go? If this is a prison planet, and we are all on death row, by order of the universal powers that be, perhaps all manner of insanity is sanctioned as a means of punishment prior to execution. I hope I'm wrong, but something is horribly wrong, and we seem to keep getting told BS. Years ago, it was Monolithic BS, but now we have Pluralistic BS. We've come a long way, baby. I am preparing to lose my house, as I have nearly my entire paycheck garnished to pay taxes I don't owe, to pay for the Secret Government, the Secret Space Program, and Deep Underground Military Bases -- all of which seem to not be under the control of the People of This World, and which seem to be hostile toward the People of This World. What's wrong with this picture?

    "You know, gentlemen, that I do not owe any personal income tax. But nevertheless, I send a small check, now and then, to the Internal Revenue Service out of the kindness of my heart." -- David Rockefeller (1915-), before a Congressional Committee

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    I haven't paid much attention to the Nobel Prize, but I just looked at the wiki entry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize Alfred Nobel was born on 21 October 1833 in Stockholm, Sweden, into a family of engineers. He was a chemist, engineer, and inventor. In 1894 Nobel purchased the Bofors iron and steel mill, which he made into a major armaments manufacturer. Nobel also invented ballistite, a precursor to many smokeless military explosives, especially the British smokeless powder cordite. Nobel was even involved in a patent infringement lawsuit over cordite. Nobel amassed a fortune during his lifetime. Most of his wealth was from his 355 inventions, of which dynamite is the most famous. There are six categories. Chemistry, Physics, Medicine, Peace, Literature, and Economics. This is interesting. I appreciate the existence of the Nobel Prize, but these categories are really quite narrow. A lot of top people in other disciplines are not eligible. Also, I suspect that one must be more respectable than profound. If someone didn't have a degree, had a messy house, no track record, was crude, rude, and socially unacceptable - would they have a chance at a Nobel Prize? But isn't this true in many areas of life? Appearances are everything. It's not how good you are. It's how good you look. Right? We are so sophisticated, yet we live in a toilet and a slaughterhouse. Right now, I am disgusted with the whole thing. I've been conducting a test, of sorts, and I've learned more than enough, and I am about to render my verdict. BTW, someday I'd like to establish a prize for Solar System Governance. But really, this will have to be in another life, if I have another life. I'm feeling no love from the Gods or the People. I'm feeling completely alone. Perhaps it's always been that way. Perhaps it will always be that way...
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    Why will no one properly debate me on the contents of this thread? Why is there no open and honest discussion of the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth concerning the human predicament? This whole thing continues to feel like some sort of a sick shell-game. It continues to feel like a rigged-game. The bad-guys continue to win, and the good-guys continue to lose. I get the feeling that this solar system will never be a genuinely happy and peaceful place. This is a sneaky and stupid mess. The lies and absurdities are endless. We major in minors, and minor in majors. I really feel like this is the end of the human race. I feel like this universe had a fleeting chance, which is quickly vanishing. I have very little hope. I have no joy. I am morphing from a passively-disillusioned nice-guy -- into a peaceful warrior. Perhaps it might've been better to just live the lie, but I'm not that kind of guy. I tried. I really did try to make classical theology and politics work. But it never did work. This thing seems to be set up in such a way that things will never work, no matter how hard we try, or how well-intentioned we are. I'm getting the picture that we really are in a hopeless situation. Yet I will continue to conceptualize an idealistic Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System, even though I think the chances of such a grandiose development are close to zero. But really, even if such a pipe-dream became a reality, would it be appreciated and cherished? I doubt it. Well now. Back to reality. There's no problem. Everything's fine. I love Big Brother. (or is it Big Sister?) Is Big Brother a Real Mother?

    I just wish I knew more about what's really going on in this solar system. I wish I knew all about the various factions, and what they are really all about. What if it turned out that Teutonic Zionism, the Nazis, the Fed, the IRS, the CIA, the Secret Government, the Vatican, the City of London, Washington DC, the UN, the Secret Space Program, etc. and et al -- were all necessary in some twisted way??!! I am still very worried about the ancient history of the human race, and it's relevance to what is occurring presently. The creation, rebellion, original sin, unpardonable sin, war in heaven, the arrival of the moon, the origins of monotheism, the nature of the soul, battling archangels, vengeful deities, reptilians, greys, dracs, reptilian queens, etc, and et al --- could have everything to do with what Alex Jones bitches about for three hours every week-day. We might have a helluva lot more to worry about than the elites, the CFR, the Bilderbergers, et al. It just seems that the current taxation system is sinister, corrupt, and even illegal. But really, I endorse a 5% point of sale tax, with funds going directly to our government, without passing through private hands. I would not be opposed to the funding of legitimate underground bases and exotic spacecraft. I just get the feeling that we've been had big-time. But how high up the universal chain of command does the madness go? Or what did the human race do to possibly deserve such treatment? I'm pursuing a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System, to try to properly manage what seems to be a prison planet in rebellion -- and to establish a proper and constructive relationship with the universal powers that be, who we might have HUGE karmic-debt issues with. Something went very wrong in antiquity, but I don't know what it was, exactly. Blood, death, taxes, war, and human-sacrifice are sore-subjects with me presently. Once again, I am not necessarily against scales and tails, especially if these beings are somehow related to us. I'd even tour the solar system on a Draconian Mothership, if and only if, nothing bad would happen to me. But how could one be sure? It just seems that the history of this solar system is insanely violent and bloody, and that much of the politics and religion seem to be absurd, in retrospect. This is even more sigificant if we had advanced technology and culture in the antedeluvian world. It seems as though we lost a war, and then got royally screwed. I'd still like to know the real connection between the Ashkenazi Jews, Teutonic Zionism, and Ancient Egypt. What if the New World Order began in Ancient Egypt? The tax-money, war blood-money, illegal drug-money, etc. seems to get sucked into a deep underground black hole, that even the President is not allowed to visit or know about. I suspect that the Bankster Bailout had a lot to do with feeding that underground black hole. This is very frightening to me, especially when I no longer leave everything in the Lord's Hands. How can one be truly responsible when they 'let go, and let God'? BTW, I'm sick and tired of being spied on. Akashic-Survaillance should violate some universal laws...

    I still try to be Christ-Centered, but now my Christocentricity seems to be centered in Ancient Egypt, and embellished with a combination of science and science-fiction. Robert Morningsky has had a bit to do with this. I'm trying to look at the major currents through history, rather than just looking at isolated texts and events. There seem to be strong and deep undercurrents, which are mostly invisible, yet which have everything to do with everything. Studying the Teutonic Knights and Teutonic Zionism has opened-up a can of worms that I can't believe. And now I'm looking at it's origins, and the dates keep getting earlier and earlier. I'm down to around 700 A.D., and I'm sure this trend will continue. But I sense that 800-900 A.D. is really crucial and pivitol. I think the New World Order has everything to do with this history. It's not just the modern errand-boys, which include the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Bilderberg Members, et al. I think we've had world government for thousands or millions of years. I'm just seeing battling factions within world government. But this is mostly an imaginary vision presently. I'm just stubbornly following my intuition and sketchy research. In many ways, I'm not sure I really want to know the truth. I think I might've been a reincarnational piece of work. I continue to have a mental-block connected with Ancient Egypt. I've had a very difficult time concentrating on the 'Red Pill' thread. In fact, despite making semi-coherent posts, I'm not doing very well at all, and this pseudo-intellectual pursuit is sort of like reinventing the wheel. I have a crazy vision of getting things all figured-out while in the nut-house, shouting out the 'hidden-truth' to the men in the white coats! I recently heard of various agencies accessing the Akashic Records as a method of spying on people. This is what I found repulsive, and not that our various activites might be noted and recorded in a rather impersonal manner. I have a problem with being personally watched 24/7. I feel like a lab-rat in Pinky and the Brain's laboratory. I guess I have a problem with Watchers who like to watch...

    Either the good-guys are supernaturally attacking me because I'm a reincarnationally bad-guy, the bad-guys are supernaturally attacking me because I'm a reincarnationally good-guy, or I've been both a good-guy and a bad-guy throughout the millenia, and both sides have a lot to lose in connection with my reincarnational connections. I don't have much to base any of this on, and it's just how I feel. Am I presently exposing evil, or is the tripe I type really just a regurgitation of what everyone who is anyone already knows? I'm really trying to do the right thing, even if I'm destroying myself in the process, and I suspect that I'm doing just that. Just keep feeding the rope...and I'll eventually hang myself, if I haven't already. Frankly, I don't give a damn. Frankly, all I really care about is the transformation of this purgatory into the paradise it was intended to be. I wonder if anyone has really examined this thread from an ivory-tower academic point of view. I've just been stumbling around the internet, but what would a dozen Harvard or Oxford professors conclude after spending a month studying and discussing what I have posted? This is where things might become very interesting. I have stated repeatedly that this is a study-guide, and that it merely scratches the surface of a very deep study. So, what would a group of scholars come up with, after studying all of this in a devotional and academic manner? Perhaps someday I'll find out. But for now, I need to stop posting, rewrite this thread into novel form, clean up my act on the home front, do an foia, spend more time reading in nature, as I prepare for the end of the world as we know it. I am much more impressed with this thread than I am with myself, but I probably need to repackage the thread and myself so as to win friends and influence people. The present packaging really doesn't work. Once again, if I'm not posting, that keeps people guessing, which is probably a good thing. I will attempt an extreme makeover of myself, so as to become neat, clean, prim, proper, and respectable. Selling my house, fixing my teeth, paying my alleged taxes, and enrolling in charm school might be a feeble start, but perhaps I'm past the point of no return, and perhaps I really don't wish to attempt to impress anyone. Again, I just wish to see this solar system run properly, and I think I've already stated one way that this might be properly done, so perhaps my work is over. Perhaps I should just get out of the way, and fade away. Should I leave the solar system? Should everything I created throughout the millenia (if anything) be removed from this solar system? Should I leave everyone to their own devices? I leave you with music which is very special to me. It was composed by someone who I knew personally for many years. Namaste and Godspeed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YdMaZRVUU8&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=AVGxdCwVVULXdf9IpJJeopOYVwpFe6v3is
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    So, has anyone watched 'The Event'? http://www.nbc.com/the-event/video/arrival/1329374 If so, what about the Planet X and Elenin (extermination-level event?) parallels in this episode? I still think it would be cool if all of the renegade piloted-planets, piloted-comets, piloted-dwarf-stars, piloted-asteroids, piloted-moons, subsurface-bases, ufo's, etc., became part of a Brave New Solar System aka the United States of the Solar System, and I'm not speaking of Nazi-like, harsh, and dictatorial solar system governance. Not the Old World Order. Not the New World Order. But the New Solar System, based upon Responsibility and an uncorrupted-form of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights, appropriately adapted and applied to the entire solar system. Perhaps Nibiru (if it really exists) could orbit 1 astronomical-unit beyond the orbit of Pluto. Pluto and Nibiru for Planethood!! I will continue to think about Solar System Governance because of my insecurity and disillusionment with the lies, corruption, and confusion. I think the truth is really bad, and I doubt there is a satisfying solution. On the original Project Avalon, Tone3Jaguar posted on a thread regarding dowsing-derived information on a huge number of ufo's and et's surrounding Earth in cloaked-form. Has there been a follow-up or a reality-check on that information? If there are thousands of piloted asteroids and ufo's throughout the solar system, and all manner of life-forms and advanced-technology in underground bases, how significant would this make the approach of Elenin? Is something a brewing? Hmmmmmmmmm. I'm leaning toward the investigation of material which is at least five years old, to avoid the sensationalism of 'just around the corner' events. I realize that it's not as much fun to reality-check the older material, but this type of study might be very revealing. In a sense, I have been reality-checking myself as I review the contents of my internet posting, especially on this thread. I continue to think that the 'good-stuff' is yet to come, as various individuals conduct research based upon the principles, concepts, and particulars of this thread. I have really just expressed an interest in various areas of study, which seem to be complementary. This is only the beginning. I continue to be puzzled by the lack of interest in this thread. My present situation is limiting my progress in this area, but what about everyone else? I've simply been trying to open doors and windows which might help others to experience the 'Eureka Phenomenon'. I certainly don't have a 'Monopoly on God'. I have no idea regarding my fate and everyone else's fate. I really don't know what's going to happen. I think the future is up for grabs, or so it seems. We seem to be in a very unstable and precarious situation, but without more reliable information, how can anyone know what's really going on? I just have to keep pressing forward, with fear and trembling...but seemingly without company. Misery loves company, and the company loves misery. What if this madness turns into a nasty survival of the fittest destructive competition frenzy? Nations are angry. Men run to and fro. Where did I hear that? Jesus? Paul? John the Revelator? Art Bell? The Quickening? The Horror! I continue to wonder how the Vatican should be properly run. Really, it's a huge and complex problem. I joke a lot, but it's really a serious subject. I suspect that the Vatican is in panic-mode right now. They have so many skeletons (and aliens?) in the confessionals, and the stakes are so high, as the church confronts modernity and a brutal gang of dracs. I have tried to imagine myself walking through the Vatican, contemplating the problems of the church, world, solar system, and universe. If one really cared, and dealved deeply, this would be quite an overwhelming task. I suspect that the Vatican is both the problem and the solution, in many ways. I continue to be interested in the Teutonic Knight Connection. All Roads lead to Rome, but where did all of these roads originate, exactly? Just tearing down the powers that be, will not solve our problems. I do not relish anarchy. I desire an evolutionary transition into a great, big, beautiful tomorrow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IPE6DsNPzE&playnext=1&list=PL017E69D661C5E637


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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:25 pm

    I'm presently interested in Christocentric Egyptology and Teutonic Zionism, with a particular emphasis on Pharaohs, Emperors, and Popes. I have another thread devoted to the Teutonic Knights and Teutonic Zionism, of which I still know next to nothing, but this thread will have more of an Egyptian and Roman slant. Did Pharaohs morph into Emperors? Did Emperors morph into Popes? What's really going on here? Was Michael / Horus / Jesus the last Egyptian Pharaoh? If so, does this imply that Egypt died with the Crucifixion of Christ? Was the Antichrist born when Jesus died, in a symbolic, literal, and reincarnational sense? Is the Biblical Record of the Historical Jesus really just a Cover for a Darker and Deeper Story? Who controlled the Pharaohs? Who controlled the Emperors? Who controlled and controls the Popes? How does the Old World Order and the New World Order fit into all of the above? How do the Archangels Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer relate to all of the above? What about God the Father? There is some indication that the Ark of the Covenant was Egyptian. If this is true, who were the Real Raiders of the Lost Ark? As I have said before, this area of study deeply frightens me. I felt this way when I started the Amen Ra thread on the old Avalon site, and this fear has turned out to have had some justification. I have no links presently. I just wanted to start something. Consider the following threads in light of Pharaohs, Emperors, and Popes. I think some of you know all about this, but would rather not discuss it, especially with me! Others, like me, might be fearful of all of this. And still others are probably not interested if it's not something really sensational. Well, at a deeper level, this really is sensational, but it's an acquired terror...

    1. Teutonic Zionsim. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3047-teutonic-zionsim

    2. The Jesuits. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1407-the-jesuits

    3. Ring of Power. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2921-ring-of-power

    4. Reptilian Queens. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2639-reptilian-queens

    5. Who is Lucifer? What Are They Doing? http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t841-who-is-lucifer-what-are-they-doing

    6. Tibet, Kali, and the Trinity Goddess. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1019-tibet-kali-and-the-trinity-goddess

    7. The History of Orthodox Christianity. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2971-the-history-of-orthodox-christianity

    8. Eric John Phelps. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2779-eric-jon-phelps

    9. The Hidden Story of Jesus. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2618-the-hidden-story-of-jesus

    10. Cosmic War - Joseph Farrel. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1818-cosmic-war-joseph-farrel

    11. What is Gizeh Intelligence? http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1348-what-is-gizeh-intelligence

    12. Amen Ra, et al. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1116-amen-ra-et-al

    13. Egyptian Folklore and the Red Pill. Part 1. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t791-egyptian-folklore-and-the-red-pill-part-1?highlight=egyptian+folklore

    14. Egyptian Folklore and the Red Pill. Part 2. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2666-egyptian-folklore-and-the-red-pill-part-2

    15. Old World Order v New World Order. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3123-old-world-order-v-new-world-order
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    I really feel as though I have lost the battle I was supposed to fight in this incarnation. I just wish there had been more communication and compassion. Sorry. Well, this thread is pretty much dead, like all the others, with no real interest. Should I stay, or should I go? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqH21LEmfbQ There are over three million views for this song -- not to mention the millions and millions of dollars of income, and nights in white satin. I live in a dump, and sleep with my dog, and I have no one to blame but myself. Writing and performing mindless songs seems to be valued a lot more than efforts to save the solar system. The latter will only get you placed on a dozen lists, including the Red-List, and watched by the Jesuits, the Alphabet Agencies, and by Various and Nepharious Unseen Entities. What shall I do? Decisions, decisions. BTW, I sang one of my own songs to Rufus -- acapella. I really did. Perhaps I should forget about all of the serious nonsense, and imagine someone who looks and sounds like Amadeus, who lives on the Moon, and rules the solar system, while walking around the Moon Palace all day with a bottle of wine, and no clothes on, assisted by 70 gorgeous naked virgins!! That would be a lot more interesting than endlessly speculating about Pharaohs, Emperors, and Popes, now wouldn't it? Come on! Be honest, for once!!
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    Anchor wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:I tried to PM Anchor, but the message never got sent, even though I tried repeatedly. The message is not really private, so I am posting it here. Anchor, I don't see you posting much anymore. Right from the beginning, I detected that you knew a lot more about a lot of things than you openly revealed. I have a bad feeling about what's going on throughout the solar system, but I don't know the details. I keep posting, even though I keep flying blind. The other forum members have pretty much stopped talking to me. Something seemed to occur as a consequence of that ill-fated Thuban thread, which was of major significance, but I don't know exactly what it was. I have been speaking with a somewhat mysterious individual, who seems to know a huge amount, yet will only tell me so much, and won't answer most of my questions. I don't know who they really are, even though I have a pretty good idea. Something seemed to ominously change two months ago, and this is when the forum members stopped talking to me. I don't know what happened, but I have some ideas. I won't elaborate. You seemed to be supportive of 'The Law of One'. I haven't spent much time looking at this material, but I think something major and catastrophic occurred in ancient Egypt. I have even speculated that the Old World Order was replaced by the New World Order at that time, and that this had everything to do with Amen Ra. I have suggested the possibility that an angel is a soul, which would make all of us angels in human form. Might angels in human form be considered to be 'Fallen Angels', or angels who have fallen into physicality? I once read a passage in a book, which read 'demons in human form, sitting in church pews'. Isn't that creepy?! I feel an overwhelming need to read 'The Law of One'. What do you think about "I Am Ra" being repeated throughout the 'Law of One'? How would you feel if someone looked you straight in the eye, and said "I Am Ra"? Was there a significant controversy and rebellion connected with 'The Law of One'? But really, I am so burned-out and disgusted with everything, that I might not be back. I've pretty much had it. Anyway, now I'm rambling. Let's just say that I am very afraid of what the remainder of 2011 will bring, and I am very worried about who I might be reincarnationally. I am also very concerned about the effect of my posting activities. I don't think I have enough information to properly press forward, but yet I do, probably mostly out of insecurity. I feel as though I got something very wrong, and that now I'm in huge trouble. Just my feeling. Namaste.

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    Well blow me down.

    I logged in here today to find three PM's, and the first thread I looked at was this and I saw anchors.

    Orthodoxymoron, sounds like you need an Anchor.

    One is on the way.
    Thank-you for the PM Anchor. I'll take a look at the 'Law of One' and your various posts on Avalon and Mists, and then perhaps I can gain a better understanding of your point of view. I posted the following on another thread, but I'd like to include it here as well. I have an idealism, on a spiritual level, which I desire for myself and others. I have an idealized self-image, which I would like to achieve. But really, as I dig deeper, I actually seem to be moving away from these idealistic conceptualizations. The battle for the ideal seems to be making me destitute in a physical, mental, and spiritual sense. The corrupt Washington and Wall Street people seem to have it together a lot more than I do. Reflecting, questioning, and trailblazing seems to take so much out of a person, that they can't seem to do much. I speak endlessly about responsibility, yet I am quite irresponsible in many ways. I feel like I'm fighting an unseen war. Someone who plays the game, becomes a Mason, does what they're told, is morally ambiguous, doesn't try to do the right thing, just takes the money and runs -- gets a lot farther in this world than someone like me. My quest has really destroyed me, as far as I can tell. This wouldn't be so bad, if it had actually done some good. I can see clearly now. The rain is gone, and so is my life. Just competing for fame, fortune, power, and pleasure seems to be a lot more productive in this world. Then, one can make a significant tax-deductable donation to charity, attend a prestigious church, and be considered a pillar of the community -- even though they live like the devil, and are more corrupt than hell. My idealism is morphing into a realism, wherein a modus operandi is devised, such that the good-guys can go head to head with the bad-guys -- and actually win. Hence, a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System, which does not hamstring the good-guys, and which neuters the bad-guys. Once again, those who study these concepts are the ones who are going to make great strides forward. I think I've pretty much cooked my own goose. Someone else is going to have to pick up my flag, and press forward into battle. I'm going to bite the bullet, and read through the 'Amen Ra' thread on Avalon 1, and both parts of the 'Red Pill' thread. Plus, I will continue to read my Egyptology books, and view various videos and documentaries, including those expressing the Black Perspective on Kemet and Ethiopia. I might think about the Dogon Tribe and the work of Dr. Robert Temple. I thought that I should spend a significant period of time on solar system governance, which I have done, but I just got bucked off of that dead horse, probably because I whipped it to death. BTW, I will try to include the Annunaki in my thinking about all of the above. I will also try to view all of this from the perspective of Michael / Horus / Jesus. I'm still waiting for that briefing or eyes-only document, revealing the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, in a month or less, or in a thousand pages or less. This is enough to drive a dude to ludes. I'm a loon as it is. Can you imagine what I'd be like if I really did take LSD and Quaaludes, or if I maxed-out on mushrooms, hung-out in sweat-lodges, and channeled Aton?? I should stop...
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    What is the Old World Order? What is the New World Order? When did each begin, and who started them? Wikipedia isn't much help! When did the NWO REALLY begin? Could it have begun in Ancient Egypt, possibly with the Hyksos Exodus? I'm presently interested in the concept of Archangels in Ancient Egypt. But I think things have heated-up in the last 100 years, in part because of all of the fancy technology and underground bases. Did Nicola Tesla have anything to do with this? What if three Archangels governed Ancient Egypt? What if two of the Archangels rebelled, and started the New World Order? What if these two Archangels went their separate ways, possibly around the time of the Crucifixion of Christ, whenever that REALLY occurred? I'm obviously on a fishing expedition, but I think it's important to properly understand all aspects of both the Old World Order and the New World Order. I know it's 'fun' to rant and rave against the NWO and the PTB, but do we really understand the OWO, NWO, and PTB - historically and presently? My present working hypothesis is that we need to focus upon the concept of Reincarnating Archangels in Ancient Egypt -- in order to properly understand anything about secular and sacred history. On the other hand, why would Powerful Archangels set up shop in the desert, with other parts of the world being more beautiful? But what if things weren't always this way? Or, what if there were a worldwide 'Egyptian' society, which included all of the continents, and possibly some of the other planets and moons of the solar system? What if this were the Old World Order? What if a Rebellion and War in Heaven resulted in the New World Order? What if there has been an ongoing war between the Old World Order and the New World Order - spanning thousands of years? When some of us yell insults at the New World Order, do we really know what we're yelling about? I am vowing to understand the Old World Order, the New World Order, and the Powers That Be -- in terms of Reincarnating Archangels and Ancient Egypt. Please -- I need help with this! I seem to have a mental block in this area, and I can't really get into it, even though I want to. The Biblical Egyptology of Gerald Massey and Ralph Ellis are currently of interest to me, but I also keep picking up bits and pieces of information from a wide variety of sources, including science fiction, such as Stargate SG-1, and from an overactive imagination, which feeds upon intuition and contextual superimposition. Perhaps I should add 'Sirius Mystery' and 'Egyptian Dawn' by Robert Temple, to my reading list. http://www.egyptiandawn.info/ Should I really think in terms of Biblical Solar System Egyptology, with Special Emphasis Upon Science, Science Fiction, and Solar System Governance? I'm getting really shaky regarding all of this. What would Ra say? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2fnk2YzXbo
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    What do you think about internalizing Alex Jones, Robert H. Schuller, Orthodoxymoron -- and externally manifesting the best aspects of Anna in the series 'V'? This is sort of an extrapolation from the 'Duck Philosophy' wherein one is ever so placid on the surface, but underwater they're paddling like hell! The Alex Jones approach works well on his show, and when he shows up at the State Capitol to protest, but this approach really doesn't work for people in everyday life. It might even get one arrested! I have enjoyed watching and listening to the flamboyant approach of Dr. Robert H. Schuller, and I agree with 95% of what he has written and spoken. But his approach leaves out a lot of very important material, and try using his theatrical speaking-style at the local grocery store! His ministry is more corrective than normative. My material is fine within the context of alternative research and personal reflection, but try talking about this stuff at work! Actually, don't talk about this thread at work, because you'd probably get fired or placed on a list! But if you combine Jones, Schuller, and Orthodoxymoron as sort of an internal Committee of Three -- you can then externally manifest a very polished and smooth demeanor, such as demonstrated by Anna. Incidentally, would a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System need to be presided over by someone like Anna? Would they be necessary to ensure a continuity of government in an orderly manner? Would this form of government keep someone like Anna in check? What if this solar system included the best aspects of Anna and the Visitors? How would a civilization guard against the worst aspects? My favorite painting has always been the 'Blue Boy' by Thomas Gainsborough. I've recently been trying to use this painting as sort of a personal model, which is decidely male, yet which is sensitive, refined, noble, and youthful. I'm not doing very well at implementing all of the above, but I'll keep trying. Anyway, back to reality. I need to mow my lawn. A neighbor yelled at me the other day, and I can't say that I blamed them. I was really quite embarrassed.

    Ego and humility are tricky terms. We're supposed to have self-esteem, yet we're supposed to be humble. We're not supposed to engage in self-exaltation or self-agrandizement, but look at who's winning in politics, religion, and entertainment!! Worshipping and Praising God opens a can of worms regarding humility, self-esteem, self-exaltation, self-agrandizement, etc. I keep imagining myself as being a Renegade French Jesuit Organist -- so living in a French Monastery with Fast Internet and Access to the Organs at Notre Dame, St. Ouen, and Saint Sulpice might be sort of cool! I like the Roman Catholic Context, in many ways, but I hate a lot of the theology and history. I've even joked about getting some R&R in a Deep Underground Reptilian Monastery under the Vatican!! I like the idea of working behind the scenes, with very little personal wealth and luxury, but with access to a lot of interesting people and information, yet with no real authority. Just analyzing situations and writing reports (which would actually be taken seriously) would be neat. I've been in an active television control room, and in many ways that seemed more attractive than being on stage. I think I have a pretty good idea how the world works, at this point, and in a sense, my reaction is 'so what?' I just wish to conceptualize things being better for everyone. Speaking of behind the scenes, I once made a televangelist mad at me when I made what I thought was a pretty neutral observation regarding the relationship of self-esteem and self-forgetfulness. I moved on after that, but I often wish that I hadn't. Good and Evil might be two sides of the same coin. I recently spoke with someone who told me that no one was really good. I didn't agrue the point. I then asked them 'how good is too good?' They didn't have an answer, and neither do I. Terrorism, Murder, and Warfare really bother me. I can tolerate a certain amount of naughtiness, mischief, and corruption -- but suffering and violence are at the top of my fecal-list.

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    Some of the most simple things can become very complex. Innocent ideas and concepts can morph into very sinister monstrosities. Just try taking the few words 'Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System' and think this through in every conceivable setting and situation. This is a HUGE and never-ending task! How would one talk to the Chinese government about such a thing? How would one talk to the Russians about such a thing? How would one talk to the Europeans about such a thing? How would one talk to the English about such a thing? How would one talk to the Teutonic Zionists about such a thing? How would one talk to the Vatican about such a thing? How would one talk to the Secret Government about such a thing? How would one talk to the Queen of Heaven and God of This World about such a thing? How would one talk to God the Father about such a thing? How would one talk to Michael/Horus/Jesus about such a thing? How would one talk to Other Than Human Lifeforms about such a thing? How would one talk to the General Public about such a thing? This gets very complicated and sticky. What about church and state? What about national sovereignty? What about ET's? If one goes through every race, country, faction, religion, company, leader, etc. and et al -- and tries to deal with them in a satisfactory manner, one might go slightly nuts -- even though they were just trying to help everyone and do the right thing. I joke around a lot, but this is a very difficult and far-reaching subject. I just think it would be cool to be on a Moon Base with all races, religions, nations, and factions represented -- sharing a once Secret Space Program. Would misunderstandings develop? Would there be the equivalent of the Dulce Wars? It's very possible, and even likely, but consider the alternatives. Here are some clips from 'V' where Anna and the V's use their charm to win friends and influence people. Too bad there's a bad side. But why does there have to be a bad side? Try thinking about a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System while watching a wide variety of Science Fiction series and motion-pictures. This exercise is very important, and should be engaged in on an ongoing basis. This seems trivial, but it is crucial. What would Diana and Anna say? 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIQcD2FfGeM&feature=related 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyo7dsEhYBM&feature=related 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbL3KmFwVSo&feature=related 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXrkF-K9HZM&feature=related 5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZYoAmZX4rI&feature=related 6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP49-qftyuk&feature=related 7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zUBa_FF6Vo&NR=1 8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atWqEdyuy8U&feature=related

    Has anyone turned this solar system into a gigantic movie set, for their very own science-fiction series, which is a combination of reality and fantasy? I try to make my imaginary personal science-fiction as real and as close to reality as possible. This isn't just idle entertainment either. This is a very serious and important activity, in my not so humble opinion! This is sort of a New Theology and a New Politics combined into a mysterious blend of church and state. This is a very volatile and dangerous combination, but perhaps an idealistic combination of some sort of politics and religion should at least be considered on an ongoing basis. I support the sovereignty and independence of individual nations and religions, but what about at the solar system governance level? Solar System Governance really does include church and state, politics and religion, regardless of how problematic this matrimonial union of strange bedfellows might be. I have previously spoken of studying 1. The Teachings of Jesus. 2. The Federalist Papers (including the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights). 3. The Latin Mass. and 4. Sacred Classical Music. This does not imply that this is the way I think things should be. It is simply a suggested area of study, or a starting point, for a consideration of the problems connected with politics, religion, and the combination thereof. This is not a 'My Way or the Highway' proclamation. I don't have this all figured-out, and I doubt that I ever will. Really. I just think we need to consider a Minimalist Traditionalist approach, before moving on to bigger and better things, and I really do think there are bigger and better things. This is sort of a 'Back to Basics' approach, which might be a possible prerequisite to a constructive consideration of what might legitimately constitute a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System, which would be neither Fundamentalist nor Godless. Solar System Without End. Namaste. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O4SguKG1NI&feature=related 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oayTmmL9xJc&NR=1 I need to listen to more Buxtehude! I love the rhapsodic style. His music sounds especially fine on the Silbermann organs found in North Germany. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w1RWKCMQdo Bach, Buxtehude, Widor, Vierne, Silbermann, Cavaille-Coll, and the Federalist Papers! Try it! You'll like it! What if a liturgical church were based upon this combination? Would this be an appropriate union of the sacred and the secular? The sacred must become secular, and the secular must become sacred! What would Robert Schuller say? WWJD? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeSbFIgNl94 How about a Silbermann at one end of the nave, and a Cavaille-Coll at the other end??!! What would Angela say? We're both Tracker-Backers!! I bet they have pipe-organs and cathedrals on the Moon and Mars! I think I need to cease and desist!! 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-PrW3lpoaw&feature=related 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk4aoN96C18&NR=1 BTW, Morena Baccarin is a highly-trained musician!! I'm listening to sacred classical music as I rewrite this thread. I don't know if it's going to be a simple rewrite, or if I will put it into a novel format. Perhaps I will do both! I need to think fast, if I want to keep my house! I'll probably have to self publish. I doubt that anyone would publish this sort of thing. But who knows, I might even have a difficult time self publishing. I will sanitize the material, and water things down a bit for mass consumption. But really, I'll probably only sell as many copies as Daniel Jackson, or the Jackson in '2012'! I really prefer this material with all of the pictures and links, but they will obviously not be included in a book. I'll probably eliminate most or all copyrighted material, and just leave my editorial comments and endless questions. Unfortunately, I might have to do a Salman Rushdie, and get Scotland Yard to give me a hand. But wait! They're probably controlled by the Illuminati!!
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    What if there were a lectionary based upon 'The Federalist Papers', 'The Anti-Federalist Papers', and 'The Teachings of Jesus'? I know I'm cruisin for a bruisin with all of this heretical religious stuff, but perhaps it will cause someone to determine how to do it right. But really, what if there were a liturgical church which used such a lectionary, combined with sacred classical music? What type of a church would best facilitate an enlightened democracy? Does the separation of church and state facilitate an enlightened democracy? Here's some beautiful music to listen to while you consider these questions. It really is important to listen to sacred classical music as you read through this thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJnv53fpusc&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=PLD768A221F84347A8

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    I really hope that my words and posted material on this thread are not being used in evil, twisted, or nepharious ways. I intend only a high-road righteous approach. I'm trying to be pure without being a prude. This is why I joke around a lot, and I continue to be sorry if this offends anyone. I continue to not know the real story or the whole story. I think I've narrowed things down a bit, and I continue to test certain theories, but I would really need a lot more information and conversation to have real substance behind my words. I am truly walking through a minefield, and I know it. I continue to ask for help from those who know a lot more than I do. On the other hand, there might be those who know a lot more than I do, who are a lot more evil than I am. I don't think I'm evil, but I don't trust myself or my hidden intentions. I might not be as good as I think I am. I feel tremendously oppressed, but what does this mean regarding my true soul-state? My theological theories are heretical toward most traditional Protestant and Roman Catholic Theology. But I am trying to think through various approaches, regardless of their origins, because who knows what the true history of God and Humanity really are? Should we just accept assumptions, or should we test them? Is it OK to just go along to get along? If this is a Prison Planet in Rebellion, and if this is Occupied Territory, what should we properly believe? If we are prisoners, do we deserve our predicament? Again, I continue to ask for assistance, but the plug seems to have been pulled on any sort of detailed interaction with me on this thread, or so it seems. Is everyone just standing back, and waiting to see my inevitable crash? I have no idea regarding my status and true situation. I really don't. I continue to think that things could play out in just about any direction or manner. My thoughts are not set in concrete, and this makes life very unstable and unhappy, because everything is always up in the air, with very little blessed assurance. If I could look in the mirror, and see beyond the veil, I might be shocked. But really, all of us might be shocked at our true nature. I'm bracing for just about anything. I don't think we've seen anything yet... 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRwuui7oS_g&NR=1 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqq_p0MA91s

    What would be wrong with the President staying at Camp David 90% of the time, and having that be the Primary White House, and just taking the helicopter into D.C. only when absolutely necessary? Wouldn't this be much more secure and economical? Why be traveling all the time? How can one be more than an order-following, teleprompter-reading puppet, when they are on the go all the time? The fraud, abuse, and waste in D.C. is reprehensible. I wouldn't even have so much of a problem with the secret government if things weren't so evil and corrupt. I love reading 'The Federalist Papers', 'The Anti-Federalist Papers', the U.S. Constitution, and the Bill of Rights -- but I hate the harsh reality of what America has become, and the seemingly unstoppable and impending train-wreck. The American People and the People of the World deserve better than this. What happened to the 'City on a Hill'? Unfortunately, I expect to keep seeing the bad-guys promoted, and the good-guys demoted, while high-level crime keeps getting swept under the proverbial rug. This seems to have become an integral part of Americana. We probably wouldn't know what the hell to do if things got cleaned-up. Who says that crime doesn't pay??? A grave-stone read

    Stop my friend, as you pass by,
    As you are now, so once was I,
    As I am now, you will surely be,
    So prepare yourself to follow me.

    Crime might pay today, but crime does not pay on judgment-day, and I have a feeling that probation is about to close, and that an investigative judgment will soon be rendered, and that the wheels of justice will grind exceedingly fine. I keep getting the feeling that Earth is going to be destroyed, and the human race exterminated, by an Act of God. Why can't this mess be cleaned up with surgical precision? Again, I wouldn't have so much of a problem with a Lunar and Underground Secret Government if they really made things function properly on Planet Earth. I keep getting the feeling that this whole thing is the way it is because this is part of some sort of a sentence which affects the whole human race because of a very real original and unpardonable sin. I doubt that all of this madness is just accidental, or simply because of human stupidity and incompetence. This whole thing is sneaky and creepy. I'm re-watching '2012', so I'm in a bit of a mood. Why can't the really evil beings in this solar system be incarcerated and re-educated, even if it takes a million years? Why can't Earth be saved, salvaged, and run properly? I'm sensing impending doom and gloom, and that the end of the world will not be a natural occurrance. I grew up in an End-Time Judgment Church, namely the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Then I tried the Norman Vincent Peale / Robert Schuller / Crystal Cathedral approach, and I vowed to combine the best aspects of the two organizations, but I never really followed through. I kept encountering too many problems with everything. My internet posting is too little, too late, but it is my feeble attempt to help save this God Forsaken World. I'd like to see the corrupt aspects of America go down HARD, but why should hard-working rank and file Americans be relegated to hell because of corrupt individuals and organizations? I don't relish a confrontation with Russia, China, and Korea (or anyone else for that matter, including the Greys and Dracs!). I would like to have a positive working relationship with them, with no back-room back-stabbing whatsoever...

    One Sunday, while sitting in the choir-loft of the Crystal Cathedral, I seemed to hear a still, small voice whispering 'He says we need a war'. Later, Dr. Schuller said 'A storm is coming'. Shortly thereafter, we got 'Desert Storm'. What scares me is that I now think that even the best, brightest, and most-pure can descend into corruption and madness more quickly and easily than we might think possible, which is why I keep speaking of a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System, like a broken record. I have no idea if this is possible, or even if it would actually work for any significant length of time. I just don't know what the true state of affairs are. I keep sensing that things are past the point of no return, but I keep trying to think and plan as if there were some hope of salvaging this mess. Believe it, or not, I have often thought that there is too much pain and suffering on Earth, for this to continue. On the other hand, if Earth and Humanity are destroyed, what chance does the Universe really have? What if Earth is the last, great hope for a very harsh, nasty, and dictatorial Universe? How are we supposed to know anything with any degree of certainty? We could be told just about anything by the 'experts'. I know a very intelligent individual, who knows a helluva lot about everything, yet they seem to have a dark soul, and they appear to be somewhat sloppy and out of control, in many important ways. I love talking to them, but they scare me. I keep thinking of Thomas and Sophia in 'The Event'. Sophia's son Thomas is running things while his mother is incarcerated, but he goes rogue, and really starts screwing things up, much to his mother's chagrin. I keep wondering if something similar to this is occurring within this solar system? And once things go out of control, and reach a critical point of no return, the madness seems to accelerate in an exponential manner, sort of like when a bank-robber is being chased by the police, and feels they have nothing to lose by running away and fighting with the police. I guess this is one reason why I have passively promoted the idea of some sort of reasonable amnesty for bad-guys who try to become good-guys, are fully cooperative, make full disclosure and reasonable restitution. Obviously justice must be served, but how does one turn a seemingly hopeless and corrupt situation around, and set things on a reasonable and responsible course, going forward?

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    Beyond The Veil lyrics:

    Not fear, nor tears can reach me now
    the light seems so clear as the night fades away
    Behold of thy flame, below of all shame
    Come conquer me sweet dreams of paradise

    Dusk drawn hither to my evening star
    A glance in thy mirror
    The trance of thy mirror
    Venus... through the looking glass

    Dance so frail and lost in the fields afar
    Cast off thy mourning
    Clasp life and glory
    Venus... through the looking glass

    The sense of angels in veils of dawn
    Like she runs forever among thy halls
    The pale horizons are closing down

    The reasons for living are lost somehow

    Cross my heart with a glance upon the star of riddance
    Drift afar like teardrops on the Stygian River

    I'm the nightfall and wizard that summon thee
    You're the blizzard that drape my eyes

    I'm thy sorrow and vein of obscurity
    You're the dagger that cuts

    Shivers on the bleak horizon
    Profound words... you're my frailty

    See the light cease in thy life
    Profound words... hurting me

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    Today, I'm watching Karen Armstrong, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftuw-kZ8fac&feature=related John Shelby Spong, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZM3FXlLMug&feature=relmfu Marcus Borg, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHIv-c-Rpzw&feature=related Diana Eck, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0wDxV4vOqU&feature=related Terry Eagleton, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCqHnwIR1PY Niel Gillman (moderator), Shmuley Boteach, Christopher Hitchins, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnMYL8sF7bQ and George Carlin! (Warning: Good Points made with Bad Language) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vReS1r0HxUU&feature=related Fasten your seatbelts! Lay aside your preconceived and prefabricated beliefs and convictions! Take a break from aliens, ufo's, and the latest disaster! Prepare to be blown away! Just look at these faces! Aren't they intimidating??!! Would any of you buy a used car from any of them??!! I feel comfortable with these types of people. I liked being around a graduate of the Harvard Divinity School for a couple of years. I'm not up to speed with these people, but I love listening to them. I knew a woman who worked with Bishop Spong for many years, and she really liked him. You guys and gals could have saved yourselves a lot of trouble if you had voted for another Bishop of New Hampshire candidate! You guys and gals don't know what to do with me, do you?? But trust me, it's going to get worse. A lot worse. This is just foreplay...
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:42 pm

    Once again, this thread is intended to be a mental and spiritual exercise. I try to make you think, laugh, get mad, get scared, and look at a lot of different things from a lot of different angles. Take all of this seriously, but not too seriously. I am trying to help us avoid the 'Deer in the Headlights' phenomenon, in connection with all of the controversial, confusing, and conflicting material. It's a combination of a zoo and a jungle out there, and I don't think things are going to get any easier any time soon. In fact, I think things might get a lot worse, and they might not get better for a very long time. But do try to treat all of this as science fiction, which might contain some truth, and if it gets too hard to deal with, just move on to something else. A lot of my writing is speculative and intuitive, and I have not exhaustively researched the topics which I address. But I have tried to get as close to the truth as I possibly can, and I have not tried to deceive or mislead anyone. I have also not tried to make a fast buck, although judging from my dismal financial situation, I probably should have. I might write some sort of a science fiction book to try to help pay my bills. Take everything I say with a sea of salt, and with extreme discernment. Probably half of what I say is utter BS, or pure, unmitigated popycock. Consider all of this to be a grand adventure, even if it is very difficult and painful for you. We will all make it through this madness somehow.

    Is the ultimate truth of our existence so disturbing that the good guys and the bad guys in all of the various factions, overt and covert, have decided throughout the millenia, that the masses must be told lies??? Are the custodians of this ultimate truth, or the biggest secret, the secret government? Has the internet broken the code, and allowed the commoners and goyim to peer within the torn veil, rent from top to bottom by unseen hands, and gaze into the face of the Shekinah without a mediator, and utter the true name of G-d? I told you things were going to get worse. Seriously, to get any real benefit from this thread, you will need to go through it repeatedly. Repetition, repetition, repetion. I haven't even internalized all of this yet. I've really just created a script for myself, but it's a little late for me to really do anything with it. I'll do my best to become articulate and presentable in connection with my editorial bias, but don't expect too much. Really.

    What would Loki do? You people have no idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC3cWTo9ADk&feature=related I'm sorry, but I have to temper the most difficult subjects with the most indelicate comments, at least on this little website. It's just between you and me. What would Connie Chung say? What if the bulk of the Bible Story really occurred in Ancient Egypt? What if it was later modified to suit the tastes of the Raiders of the Lost Ark? I don't know that this is the case, but do seriously consider Biblical Egyptology. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mXs8E30mTw&feature=related What if the Bible Story is centered in Osiris, Isis, Ra, and Horus, in Ancient Egypt? Jordan Maxwell stated at 'Awake and Aware' that there was no Ancient Israel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVZkxWlERnY&feature=related Then he proceeded to bash the Vatican, and got himself yanked off the stage with the proverbial hook. What if Constantine and the Council of Nicea marked the point in time where history was rewritten, the 66 Books of the Bible were Canonized, and the Old World Order was officially superseded by the New World Order aka Teutonic Zionism (or the foundation of TZ anyway) aka Raiders of the Lost Ark? What if this really occurred around 700-900 A.D.? What if Atlantis, Lemuria, Babylon, Greece, and Rome revolved around Egypt? What if this were the Old World Order? What if Rome defeated Egypt in an Ancient War or Uprising of Some Sort, and became the Center of the New World Order? Perhaps Judeo-Christianity has had very little to do with Real Jews or the Teachings of Jesus. Was Jesus the Last Egyptian Pharaoh? Was Jesus at the heart of Old World Order Governance? Did Jesus become a Reincarnational Hostage of the New World Order, or did Jesus create the New World Order? Did Jesus have an idealistic plan which got hijacked? The crucifixes and the virtual rejection of the Teachings of Jesus seem to be smoking guns. Again, I don't know that this was the case, but do some serious research in this area after you stop laughing. What would Daniel Jackson say? What would Alex Collier say? What would Acharya S say? I would love to have a heart to heart talk with a roomful of Jesuit and Nazi Egyptologists on the Dark Side of the Moon regarding this topic, with the Queen of Heaven and God of This World present. "What shall we talk about?" I'm very serious, and I say this with no animosity whatsoever.

    I talked with Carol Rosin about nuclear war, and I talked with Timothy Leary about Jesus, but I've never taken Lysergic Acid Diethylamide. How can one properly deal with all of the alternative and controversial stuff without turning into a nut? On the other hand, how can one become heavily involved in religion without turning into a nut? Perhaps the Backslidden Anglican Agnostics have had it right all along. BTW, I'm ending this thread (really!), and I will be spending my time looking at everyone else's threads. Tell me, Egyptologists, what is the relationship between Egypt, Persia, Rome, the Old World Order, the New World Order, the Knights Templar, and Teutonic Zionism? I see some basic patterns emerging, and it is quite startling to me. It frankly scares me. I'm becoming increasingly Egypt-Centered, but I can't really get into all of the mythologies and ceremonies, perhaps because of reincarnational issues. I'm primarily interested in Biblical Egyptology, particularly Christocentric Egyptology and Science Fiction! Are we dealing with Egypt v Rome in antiquity, and possibly presently (in a hidden sense)? Are there good Masons who know about all of the above who are at odds with evil Masons? I don't mind learning about forbidden archaeology, esoteric theology, and hidden history, but I'm not into creepy rituals, human sacrifices, terrorism, assassinations, starting wars and profitting from them, planning exterminations, rigging the stock market, selling illegal drugs, corrupting elections, etc, etc. Do you see what I mean? I was recently invited to become a Mason, but I declined because of all of the creepy things that I've heard about. But I really do think that the higher level Masons know a helluva lot. You'd almost have to hang out with reformed bad-guys to really find out what's what. That's one reason why I don't shut my ears to those who are accused of being connected with the Masons, the Jesuits, or some secret society. But really, I don't want to get too close to this stuff, for fear of being sucked into the dark-side, if you know what I mean...

    I mostly want to resolve things, and move on. Is my concept of a Theocratically-Implemented, Responsibility-Based, United States of the Solar System still a valid idea if most of the previous paragraphs are true? Which system would Michael/Horus/Jesus desire? What about God the Father? Should I really be so passionate about having everyone make-it, or do some people really deserve to die, in an eschatological and eternal sense? The more I thrash around, unassisted, the angrier I get. I know there are those who could easily tell me the truth, yet they refuse to do so. Why does this have to be a game? Probably because the truth is too horrible. This is my assumption, given the lack of cooperation and communication. Watching me thrash around on the internet is probably easier than watching me go completely insane on national television. If our positions were reversed, I'd probably do the same thing to you guys and gals. I'm just really tired of being an Uppity Lab Rat. Also, if you are going to spy on me, stop making my computer slower than growing grass, with that fancy back-door bs. Egypt v Rome? Old World Order v New World Order? Incoming-Annunaki v Local-Annunaki? Is there such a thing as Semetic-Zionism, or is there really only Teutonic-Zionism? Egyptian-Zionism v Roman-Zionsim? Pharaohs>Emperors>Popes? Interesting and inflammatory questions, but I have no idea what the answers are. Once again, would a Theocratically-Implemented, Responsibility-Based, United States of the Solar System incorporate the best aspects of the Old and New World Orders, and preside over a Brave New Solar System? Is this a political and religious milestone, or is this an utter absurdity? Again, I'm not difficult to deal with, and I would love to hear a representative sampling of viewpoints from around the solar system. This is all about idealistic governance, rather than arbitrary and egotestical (get it?) domination. This whole thing is so potentially volatile, especially if we are dealing with planet-busting WMD's, and desperate deities. Once again, we might have a helluva lot more to worry about than the Queen, the Pope, the Rothschilds, the Bilderbergers, and the Rockefellers. If it were just these people, this thing would be easy. The scary thing is that the further I go down the rabbit hole, or snake hole, the more at home I feel! Isn't this strange? And I'm not even telling you my strangest thoughts... 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A6_blpqpU 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b365_qJEpDg 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyKy8_sF4xY 4. http://www.nbc.com/the-event/video/arrival/1329374 I had more to say, but my computer is barely functioning, no one seems to be interested in what I have to say, and I guess I don't really trust anyone anyway. This internet adventure has taught me to research a lot more, and say a lot less. I obviously haven't been able to walk the walk, but I'm working on it. Someone once told me to fight on the inside, rather than on the outside, and to improvise on the pipe-organ. Interesting. One 'last' thing. What if the Final Judgment of the World 'ends' up being a Vala Mal Doran? Namaste and Have a Nice Day!

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    The spotless Son of God hung upon the cross, His flesh lacerated with stripes; those hands so often reached out in blessing, nailed to the wooden bars; those feet so tireless on ministries of love, spiked to the tree; that royal head pierced by the crown of thorns; those quivering lips shaped to the cry of woe. And all that He endured--the blood drops that flowed from His head, His hands, His feet, the agony that racked His frame, and the unutterable anguish that filled His soul at the hiding of His Father's face--speaks to each child of humanity, declaring, It is for thee that the Son of God consents to bear this burden of guilt; for thee He spoils the domain of death, and opens the gates of Paradise. He who stilled the angry waves and walked the foam-capped billows, who made devils tremble and disease flee, who opened blind eyes and called forth the dead to life,--offers Himself upon the cross as a sacrifice, and this from love to thee. He, the Sin Bearer, endures the wrath of divine justice, and for thy sake becomes sin itself. In silence the beholders watched for the end of the fearful scene. The sun shone forth; but the cross was still enveloped in darkness. Priests and rulers looked toward Jerusalem; and lo, the dense cloud had settled over the city and the plains of Judea. The Sun of Righteousness, the Light of the world, was withdrawing His beams from the once favored city of Jerusalem. The fierce lightnings of God's wrath were directed against the fated city. Suddenly the gloom lifted from the cross, and in clear, trumpetlike tones, that seemed to resound throughout creation, Jesus cried, "It is finished." "Father, into Thy hands I commend My spirit." A light encircled the cross, and the face of the Saviour shone with a glory like the sun. He then bowed His head upon His breast, and died. Amid the awful darkness, apparently forsaken of God, Christ had drained the last dregs in the cup of human woe. In those dreadful hours He had relied upon the evidence of His Father's acceptance heretofore given Him. He was acquainted with the character of His Father; He understood His justice, His mercy, and His great love. By faith He rested in Him whom it had ever been His joy to obey. And as in submission He committed Himself to God, the sense of the loss of His Father's favor was withdrawn. By faith, Christ was victor.

    Never before had the earth witnessed such a scene. The multitude stood paralyzed, and with bated breath gazed upon the Saviour. Again darkness settled upon the earth, and a hoarse rumbling, like heavy thunder, was heard. There was a violent earthquake. The people were shaken together in heaps. The wildest confusion and consternation ensued. In the surrounding mountains, rocks were rent asunder, and went crashing down into the plains. Sepulchers were broken open, and the dead were cast out of their tombs. Creation seemed to be shivering to atoms. Priests, rulers, soldiers, executioners, and people, mute with terror, lay prostrate upon the ground. When the loud cry, "It is finished," came from the lips of Christ, the priests were officiating in the temple. It was the hour of the evening sacrifice. The lamb representing Christ had been brought to be slain. Clothed in his significant and beautiful dress, the priest stood with lifted knife, as did Abraham when he was about to slay his son. With intense interest the people were looking on. But the earth trembles and quakes; for the Lord Himself draws near. With a rending noise the inner veil of the temple is torn from top to bottom by an unseen hand, throwing open to the gaze of the multitude a place once filled with the presence of God. In this place the Shekinah had dwelt. Here God had manifested His glory above the mercy seat. No one but the high priest ever lifted the veil separating this apartment from the rest of the temple. He entered in once a year to make an atonement for the sins of the people. But lo, this veil is rent in twain. The most holy place of the earthly sanctuary is no longer sacred. All is terror and confusion. The priest is about to slay the victim; but the knife drops from his nerveless hand, and the lamb escapes. Type has met antitype in the death of God's Son. The great sacrifice has been made. The way into the holiest is laid open. A new and living way is prepared for all. No longer need sinful, sorrowing humanity await the coming of the high priest. Henceforth the Saviour was to officiate as priest and advocate in the heaven of heavens. It was as if a living voice had spoken to the worshipers: There is now an end to all sacrifices and offerings for sin. The Son of God is come according to His word, "Lo, I come (in the volume of the Book it is written of Me,) to do Thy will, O God." "By His own blood" He entereth "in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us." Heb. 10:7; 9:12. --- Desire of Ages, pgs. 755-757, by Ellen Gould White


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    Jenetta wrote:Orthodoxy have you ever considered putting all this material from this thread into a book? Happened to read the Lacerta files on this Thread (do you have the material in another post as well?) and find the material quite fascinating as I am interested in the evolution of mankind our species.
    I do believe that you are a genius who very few are taking seriously. Keep up the good work.
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    I need to raise some tax-cash fairly quickly, to save my house, so I am interested in putting something together for publication, using this thread. I wish to remain anonymous, so if anyone knows anyone in publishing who might be interested, please PM me. I'm timid and paranoid, because of the controversial subject matter, so I'd really like to remain incognito with a pseudonym, and with all tracks well covered. There would have to be some sort of insider involvement, because I don't know how accurate I have been, or how potentially problematic some of my thoughts might be, if more than a dozen people read them. This thread has really been 'in house'. Also, it might be cool if insider types could answer some of the questions I've asked as a part of the potential publication. An interview with the Queen of Heaven and God of This World might be cool! They could just interject their answers and comments into a refined and well-edited manuscript. The book might involve a pictorial tour of the solar system, including some of the secret stuff. Just a thought. I'll pledge 50% of any profits to a worthy charity, such as A.D.R.A. I need help with things like pictures and copyright issues. I will continue rewriting the thread, and I might possibly put it into novel form. I will self-publish if I have to, and I probably will have to. I continue to wish to resolve things, rather than creating more problems, so I really am receptive to working with 'the man'. The reality-checking, spell-checking, selecting, editing, packaging, marketing, and those interviewed, would make all the difference in the world. I think there is a basic style, contextual superimposition, and editorial slant, which might make all of this madness of interest to someone. I might even buy five copies for my mother to drive up the numbers. This paragraph is sort of dumb and out of place, but I'm sort of desperate. I won't mention this again, and I think this might be an excellent way to end this thread. Thanks in advance! My mailbox continues to be empty regarding this request, and this doesn't surprise me. I was once rejected by Harper and Rowe, and I just walked away from writing because of that negative experience. That happened a long time ago. One problem with a book, is that it sort of locks a person into a certain perspective. Also, I rely heavily upon links, quoted material, forum member comments, pictures, and paintings - and these things cannot be contained between the covers of a book. Unfortunately, very few people subject themselves to my tripe, and I don't get paid for doing this! My tripe is an acquired-taste! Nuff said!

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    I just wanted to add that I think that academic and liturgical discipline are excellent exercises, when properly engaged in. I don't presently attend church services, but I do anticipate doing so at some point, but I'm not sure where. Who knows? I might even start a church! I've thought about that for a very long time. Who knows? It might consist of nothing but sacred classical music combined with the very best of contemporary sacred music, with processions, but with very little standing, sitting, bending, and nodding -- and certainly with no sacrifice or meat-eating (symbolic or literal, human or otherwise, as I'm a Liturgical Vegetarian). I continue to appreciate the community, reverence, and beauty of the Mass (Latin or otherwise), but the sacrificial and theological issues continue to be a problem for me. I have enjoyed serivices at Calvary Chapel, Costa Mesa, with Chuck Smith. Crystal Cathedral, with Robert Schuller and Norman Vincent Peale. Hollywood Presbyterian, with Lloyd John Oglivie. The Vineyard, with John Wimber, a Jerry Falwell rally, SDA services with HMS Richards, Morris Venden, Louis Venden, Lloyd Wyman, Arthur Beitz, George Vandeman, Desmond Ford, et al, Masses at St. Mary's Roman Catholic Cathedral, Eucharists at Grace Episcopal Cathedral, services at Hollywood United Methodist, a Jewish Sedar in Hollywood, a Pentecostal Revival with David Paul, services at First Congregational, Los Angeles, services at Rancho Capastrano, with Robert A. Schuller, services at Fullerton Evangelical Free Church with Charles Swindoll, a service at Bel-Air Presbyterian with Donn Moomaw, classes with Walter Martin, etc, and et al. Everyone has their charm and joy. I have participated in services extensively, in bands, choirs, as an organist, and as a vocal soloist (even acapella). But presently, my crisis of faith is profound and devastating, and I don't see a light at the end of the tunnel. I am walking a path that I don't necessarily want a lot of people to walk with me. Some, yes. Most, no. Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, and down the rabbit-hole, I will fear no Jesuit or Alphabet-Agent, even though I am on the Red-List, for I am a completely ignorant fool. For the present, I will continue to research various subjects to the tune of sacred classical and contemporary music. I don't formally pray, but I try to maintain an attitude of prayer 24/7. Again, I'm not attempting to lead, and I don't expect anyone to follow, although all are welcome. My various internet postings are intended as study guides and mental and spiritual exercises.

    I reverence the Creator God of the Universe and the Divinity Within Humanity, but I am very wary of the Ultimate Political and Religious Leadership in This Solar System, Throughout Recorded History. I suspect minor deities, gods, and goddesses engaging in various and sundry power struggles, some of which might've involved massive planetary destruction and mass murder. So, really, I'm not a happy camper right now, and I don't expect to be one anytime soon. I am convinced that the entire solar system could be converted into one big asteroid-belt in a matter of minutes, which is why I have been examining various modalities and reforms of solar system governance. I actually think we've been on the brink for at least a hundred years. We seem to be living on borrowed time. Despite the Leary LSD connection, I wish that I had gotten better acquainted with Carol Rosin, and gotten better acquainted with the WMD situation throughout the solar system. She seemed to be very passionate against the weaponization of space. I just wish I knew how hostile the rest of the universe really is. If we are the only violent jerks in the universe, I might be in favor of some sort of disarmament, or at least the proper centralized supervision of the WMD's. Again, it seems that we could cease to exist in a matter of minutes, and what I really worry about is whether or not there are weapons which can destroy all traces of the soul, resulting in the complete and permanent annihilation of a being (human or otherwise). Remember the words of Jesus regarding the destruction of the soul? This solar system seems to be in an extremely dangerous and out of control emergency situation. But would a well-intentioned Theocratically-Implemented, Responsibility-Based, United States of the Solar System, which existed in harmony with the Genuinely Benevolent Beings of the Universe, really be the Road to Utopia -- or would it ultimately be the Highway to Hell? Is this Experiment in Male and Female Human Physicality and Responsible Freedom really a failed-experiment which is past the point of no return? Or was this experiment doomed from the beginning by an original and unpardonable sin? I have my theories, but I don't know much of anything for certain. I just keep feeling as if Sol is S.O.L. I Love All of You, and I Wish Things Had Turned Out Better for All of Us. Namaste and Godspeed.

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    There's no escaping it. I will need to continue this thread -- for better or worse -- I know not which. I will view a lot of other material, including other threads on this site, but I will bring everything I learn back into this thread. The concept of a Theocratically-Implemented, Responsibility-Based, United States of the Solar System is virtually my politics and religion, at this point anyway. I remain open to all views, regardless of how ridiculous they might seem to be. But, as of this moment, I am not at war with anyone, even though some probably think that I should be. Who knows? I might start fighting, at some point, but I don't feel particularly inclined to do so. Even when I cite detrimental information about various individuals and groups, I feel no animosity. I'm merely attempting to understand.

    This is an amazing interview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVwKKsvtdag&feature=player_embedded All roads really do lead to Rome, and I continue to think that everything we discuss should be viewed from the Roman context. I continue to imagine myself as being a well-connected Renegade French Jesuit Organist. I continue to love the artistic aspects of Rome, but the history, theology, and politics are horrible, and I'm sure that most upper-level and well-informed Roman Catholics know this, but they have a Dragon by the Tail, and they are probably terrified of what might happen if they let go. As the general public finds out about all of this, things could get very, very nasty. I'm interested in this area of research, but it scares the hell out of me. I'm trying to be open and fair in all of this, and I'm trying to look at both the positives and negatives in all of this. All roads lead to Rome, but where did all of these roads originate?

    My present working assumption is that the solar system probably contains thousands of unconventional craft, including asteroid and moon spacecraft, which might be friendly or unfriendly toward the human race. I get the feeling that this solar system is like the wild, wild west -- and that we might be facing a showdown at the ok corral. I certainly do not desire peace at any price, nor do I desire to end-up as space-dust. What would Anna Hayes say? I'd still like to hang-out on Phobos for a while, regardless of whether it is populated by friend or foe. But I would have to have a solid guarantee that I wouldn't be harmed or kidnapped. I still like the idea of a Theocratically-Implemented, Responsibility-Based, United States of the Solar System -- with the governmental personnel mostly located within the University of Solar System Studies and Governance campuses throughout the solar system. I've spoken of using a deconsecrated cathedral as the headquarters of a New Solar System, so just for the fun of it, today I'm thinking of either the Crystal Cathedral or St. Mary's Cathedral (or both!!) as being the headquarters, with the University of California system serving as the core of the University of Solar System Studies and Governance system. Again, this is just for the conceptual heck of it. This is a test. This is only a test. And yes, I realize that I am insane, but it's more fun that way! The UC system has solid ties to the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, and to the Los Alamos National Laboratory. I don't wish to reinvent the wheel. I just wish to have 10,000 PhD's with clipboards and safety-goggles, watching it rotate... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California

    I'm really conflicted about advanced technology, complete disclosure, and solar system governance. We don't seem to have a very good track record. We fight and fight and fight. I keep proposing various aspects of solar system governance, and I keep scaring myself thinking about what could go wrong, and what has gone wrong. In many ways, it would be so much easier to have none of the really destructive and horrific technology, and have an interplanetary group of say 1,000 very well chosen individuals who would meet secretly, yet would keep the public well informed -- and would be appropriately receptive to public input and concerns. But how would one choose such a group, and keep them from becoming a bunch of heartless and arrogant elitist-bastards???
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    Consider once again, the work of William Bramley, especially his pioneering book 'The God's of Eden'. Here is a Red Ice Creations interview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgCY_BkkHqo&feature=related I like his attitude and approach. I learned about him from Alex Collier, in his 1994 interview with Rick Keefe. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8316692185126189734# Here is another William Bramley interview, this time with Josh Reeves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTmSlfOpHtg&feature=related One of the things which trouble me greatly is the corruptibility of individuals and institutions. Not just that it can be accomplished, but how easily the deed is done. Many sell-out at fire-sale prices. Even my idealistic proposals could be infiltrated and subverted, and possibly quite easily. Seemingly, even the best of us can be corrupted and degraded. I'm frankly seeing endless corruption and conflict, going forward for thousands of years. Perhaps my concept of a United States of the Solar System would merely prevent us from being exterminated, or exterminating ourselves. It might not re-create the Garden of Eden, or be the Road to Utopia. It might just be a band-aid fix, rather than really addressing the deeper issues, some of which might be galactic, universal, and theological in nature...

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:07 pm

    Once again, consider Serpent Worship. Is the Goddess really the God 'S'? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0WnSPxGDpU&feature=player_embedded As one goes up the chain of command, at some point, does matriarchy and patriarchy no longer apply? At the 'lower' levels, is the 'Patriarchy' really just a front, staffed by drones? What if Michael / Horus / Jesus was a front-man in Ancient Egypt, who rebelled against the Gods of Eden, and got himself blacklisted and crucified? Might there be a parallel between Jesus and Teal'c in 'Stargate SG-1'? Just a thought. Consider Christocentric Egyptology. Seriously. Consider Ethiopia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XDpkZL5808&feature=related What is the relationship between Sirius, Mali, Ethiopia, Egypt, Persia, Babylon, Iran, and Iraq? North Africa, Persia, and the countries immediately surrounding Persia, are fascinating to me. What if the Raiders of the Lost Ark were really Persians? One source claims that Bohemian Grove is Persian. But what do I know? Probably too much and too little. This is a dangerous combination...

    Take a very long and hard look at this map -- and start connecting the dots. Top (New World Order Raiders of the Lost Ark?) v Bottom (Founders and Old World Order?)? On the other hand, what if North America turns out to be at the center of things, historically and presently? Bill Cooper pointed the finger at America. Leo Zagami stated that the New World Order was 'Made in the U.S.A.' Sherri Shriner thinks that America is Modern Babylon. I think the Secret Government Aspect of America might be Babylon. What if the other parts of the world were outposts or business ventures? The underground and hidden power structure of the world might be very different than the visible powers that be, who we see, and who are recorded in the 'history' books. We might be reading mostly Historical-Fiction. Was Hitler forced into war in 1939, possibly much earlier than planned? Why did Adolph Hitler REALLY go into North Africa? Did Hitler attack Gizeh Intelligence? Did Hitler bite the hidden-hand that was feeding him? Supposedly Gizeh Intelligence pulled the plug on Hitler in 1941. Was it just a coincidence that the United States entered WWII in 1941? Did a previously obedient Hitler go rogue in 1941? The later Hitler blunders might be explained by the absence of the Gizeh Intelligence support. The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away...

    What if there existed an advanced Native Earth Population centered in North Africa and North America -- seeded by one group of ET's? What if the territory North of Africa were visited by another group of ET's at a later date, who engaged in a program of genetic hybridization and conquest? Something really nasty happened in antiquity, in connection with all of the above, but I'm not sure exactly what it was. I think that ancient history was really, really bad. I mostly wish to make things right presently, with or without full disclosure. Is North Africa the Old World, and the center of the Old World Order? Is North America the New World, and the center of the New World Order? This mess could go back tens of thousands of years. Sirius A v Sirius B? Africa v America? OWO v NWO? Should I run? I'd run -- but I don't think there is any place to hide -- not even under the rocks. I keep thinking that a Beautiful African Goddess, in a Subterranean Palace, somewhere in North Africa -- could clear all of this up for me -- but I have a feeling that I'd have to kneel -- while she decided whether to kill me, or not...

    In the movie '2012' do you remember which continent rose thousands of feet, and which was not flooded? Think about it...

    In the movie 'Avatar' do you remember the spiritual leader of the Navi? Who were the ET's? Think about it...

    I get the feeling that I have been a defender of humanity for a very long time, but I'm not sure why I think this might be the case. If this is true, has this been a wise decision? Why did Raven call me 'Satan', and say that I would be hiding under the rocks when the Lord returned? Think about it...

    Perhaps I am a personna non grata of both the OWO and the NWO. Perhaps this is the fate of mediators. Think about it...

    Perhaps I am viewed as being a whining, lying, disloyal, insubordinate, two-faced, back-stabbing sonofabitch. Think about it...
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    In a Theocratically-Implemented, Responsibility-Based, United States of the Solar System -- what would be the nature of the 'Theocratic' portion of this concept? Once the system were established, would the 'Theocratic' aspect play an active role in a U.S.S.S.? These are VERY important questions. I have some ideas about this, but I am afraid to utter them. Does it really do any good to keep making post after post after post after post -- with no responses? Why is this so hard? Should I simply walk away from this mess? Should someone hit the 'reset button', and reboot the whole damn thing? What is going on here? BTW -- Rufus showed me some really cool sci-fi cartoons, which is where I got the 'reset button' idea. A humvee was close by, but I don't know why. In 'Dogma' Rufus said that Jesus was Black. Here is something which might shed some light on what I just said. http://bechollashon.org/population/africa/africa_jews.php In light of the previous post, think about it...

    A little known story is that of the African Jewish Diaspora, which has received relatively little scholarly attention. When Ethiopian-born Ephraim Isaac is greeted with the question familiar to many diverse Jews, “Are you Jewish? You don't look Jewish,” he sometimes responds, “Ethiopia is mentioned in the Bible over 50 times, but Poland not once.” The African story parallels that of other groups of Jews throughout the Diaspora. In Africa, as in other places around the world, there are long-standing communities with greater or lesser degrees of continuous practice, depending on how safe they were. There are those who have Jewish heritage and now practice other religions. Either through assimilation or through forced conversion, some may live as Christians or Muslims and have little sense of their Jewish past. However, others live as Christians or Muslims, yet are proud of their Jewish ancestry. There are also those who discovered Judaism and decided to convert to Judaism. These are more recent newcomers to the Jewish people. Whether ancient or new, a distinctive trait of African communities results from isolation from rabbinic Judaism. Their Judaism has either been passed on through oral tradition or is practiced as pre-Talmudic Torah-based Judaism. These communities would like to be part of world Judaism. Some are ancient, some more recent, and others once existed but are now extinct. The following section briefly describes some of those communities to illustrate both the historical roots and the possibilities for the future of the Jewish people.

    Jewish communities have existed throughout Africa for centuries. Some are ancient, some more recent, and others once existed but are now extinct. The following section briefly describes some of those communities to illustrate both the historical roots and the possibilities for the future of the Jewish people. North African, or “Maghrebi” Jews of Algeria , Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, and Yemen maintained their faith for more than two thousand years, in some instances surviving violence, political and geographic segregation, and legal status as second-class citizens. After the birth of the State of Israel in 1948, most North African Jews were expelled from their places of birth, along with other Mizrahi Jews from Arab states in the Middle East. Some countries still have an active, albeit small contingent of Jews who still practice a unique form of distinctly North African Judaism.

    Jews have a long history in Algeria. In the 14th century, with the deterioration of conditions in Spain, many Spanish Jews moved to Algeria. After the French occupation of the country in 1830, Jews gradually adopted French culture and were granted French citizenship in 1870. Most of Algeria's 140,000 Jews left the country for France when Algeria attained independence in 1962. Following the brutal conflict of the Armed Islamic Group's 1994 declaration of war on all non-Muslims in the country, most of the thousand-odd remaining Jews left. A single synagogue functions in Algiers, although there is no rabbi. All other synagogues have been taken over for use as mosques. During British rule and under King Fuad, Egypt was somewhat more friendly towards its Jewish population. Although they were not allowed to claim Egyptian nationality, Jews played important roles in the economy. Of the 100,000 Jews who lived in Egypt before 1948, only a hundred or so remain today. Many Egyptian Jews fled to Israel (35,000), with the rest going to Brazil, France, the United States and Argentina. Today, anti-Semitism is common in the Egyptian media.

    The Jewish community of Morocco had a peak population of 300,000 Jews before 1948. In the midst of the first Arab-Israeli war, riots against Jews broke out, and they began leaving for Israel. In 1955, when Morocco attained independence, Jews occupied several political positions, including three seats in parliament and a ministry. The Six-Day War in 1967 led to increased Arab-Jewish tensions worldwide, and by 1971 the Jewish population was down to 35,000. As of 2004, Marrakech had an aging population of about 260 people, most over the age of 60, while around 3,000 Jews remained in Casablanca. Despite their small numbers, Jews continue to play a notable role in Morocco: the king retains a Jewish senior adviser, and Jewish schools and synagogues receive government subsidies. However, Jewish targets have sometimes been attacked (notably in Al-Qaeda's bombing of a Jewish community center in Casablanca in 2003), and there is sporadic anti-Semitic rhetoric from radical Moslem groups. However, King Mohammed VI is taking an assertive stand against Islamic radicalism and reaffirmed the protection his predecessors historically offered to Morocco's Jews.

    Tunisia has had a Jewish minority since Roman times. The Jewish community of Tunisia received successive waves of immigration over time, mostly from Spain and Portugal at the times of the Inquisition and then from Italy. In 1948 the Jewish population was an estimated 105,000, but by 1967 most Tunisian Jews had left the country for France and Israel, and the population had shrunk to 20,000. As of 2004, an estimated 1,500 remained, particularly on the island of Djerba, noted for its ancient synagogues, and in Tunis where most Jews still live as they have for centuries, maintaining strict Jewish practices and surviving by metalworking and jewelry-making. In the last few decades, a small but deadly number of attacks against Jews have occurred; however, they are generally not regarded as state sponsored and the Islamic government allows freedom of worship to the Jewish community.

    The group of African Jews that has received the most attention in mainstream media is the Beta Israel, the Jews of Ethiopia, a 2,500-year-old biblically Jewish community. The Beta Israel have become so well known that some Jews may think that any dark-skinned Jew is Ethiopian. Although the central legend of Beta Israel Judaism is the story of King Solomon and Queen Sheba, historians trace Ethiopian Jewish ancestry to the tribe of Dan, which migrated through the Nile valley to the ancient African kingdom of Cush. The Beta Israel are often referred to as Falasha, meaning “stranger” in Ge'ez, the classical ecclesiastical tongue of Ethiopia, a derogatory term descriptive of their community's status as outsiders since the 4th century, when King Ezana declared Christianity the official religion of his kingdom. Because of rescue missions Operation Moses (1984-85), Operation Joshua (1985), and Operation Solomon (1991), 100,000 Beta Israel now have Jewish lives in Israel. What most Jews do not know is that the process to recognize Ethiopian Jews as “real” and “legitimate” took well over 100 years, and the struggle is not over. Thousands of “Falash Mura,” Ethiopian Jews who, like Anusim, were forced to convert to Christianity and want to return to Judaism, remain in camps in Addis Ababa and in remote northern villages of Gondar, waiting to be accepted as legitimate Jews and make aliyah to Israel. Although movement toward recognition finally seems achievable, this path also has been tortuously slow.

    There have long been many sub-Saharan African communities. Some are dispersed and have found it difficult to maintain their connections to their religious pasts. The geographic challenges are often coupled with aggressive missionary pressures from messianic Jews, Christians, and Muslims. For example, the Lemba of South Africa and Zimbabwe have always been aware and are fiercely proud of their Jewish ancestry, but they do not necessarily practice Judaism today. This is changing, as some leaders of the community, including Rabson Wuriga, Ph.D., and members of the Lemba Cultural Association (LCA), are attempting to organize and educate dispersed individuals and reclaim the practice of Judaism among a wider segment of the Lemba population. There are Lemba who live in urban centers, well-educated professionals and academics. At the same time, they may be the tribal elders who maintain a closely guarded oral Lemba history. Though non-Lemba women are allowed to marry into the tribe, Lemba men face expulsion if they marry gentiles. According to Dr. Rudo Mathivha, daughter of Professor M.E.R. Mathivha, the late president of the LCA, the Lemba are descended from a group of Jews who left Judea in approximately 500 B.C.E. and settled first in Yemen before traveling south through Africa. The story of their long migration through Ethiopia, Tanzania, Kenya, Malawi, Mozambique, Zimbabwe, and South Africa has been retained and passed down through oral tradition.

    A 60 Minutes segment, featuring Tudor Parfitt, head of the Judaic Studies department at the University of London, reported the results of DNA testing showing both Semitic origins of the Lemba in general and the now well-known existence of a marker associated with the Kohanim on the Y chromosome of many Lemba males, although DNA cannot necessarily prove or disprove Jewish origins. The testing itself remains controversial among the Lemba, with some feeling vindicated by the results as scientific proof of their Jewish roots, while others are insulted by the very idea of having to prove their identity. In response to those who question his legitimacy as a Jew, Wuriga responds, “My father told me I am a Jew. To whom am I going to listen? I am going to listen to my father.” Other communities have found their way to Judaism only in the last hundred years. In Uganda, the Abayudaya, whose tribal name means “people of Judah,” trace their Jewish origins to the turn of the 20th century. According to Rabbi Gershom Sizomu, their spiritual leader, the Abayudaya began their journey to Judaism under the leadership of Semei Kakungulu, a great warrior who cooperated with the British the British imperialists at the turn of the 20th century. Kakungulu was to be a missionary for the British, converting the people of Mbale to Christianity. However, Kakungulu favored the Hebrew Bible. In 1919, the community began practicing the biblical Judaism they maintain to this day. In 1919, he is reported to have circumcised himself-when he was almost 50 years old - along with the 3,000 men of the 8,000 followers. They began practicing the observant Judaism they maintain to this day. Over the years, Kakungulu's knowledge of Judaism increased as a result of meeting several Jews, who instructed the Abayudaya in Jewish practice and Hebrew, and left them with a Hebrew/English bible. After Kakungulu´s death in 1928, many members drifted away. Since then, as has happened to so many other groups of Jews, the community has at times been subject to governmental pressures to abandon their Jewish practices. In 1971, Idi Amin came to power, banning Jewish practice, ordering Jews to convert to Christianity or Islam. After the fall of Amin in 1979, the remnants of the Abayudaya community gathered to begin rebuild the community. Rabbi Sizomu, his brother JJ Keki and others were leaders of the “Kibbutz Movement” in the early 1980s, reclaiming the land and building a synagogue (the “Moses” synagogue), which restored the Abayudaya community's focus. Music has been critical to the survival of the Abayudaya community. The Abayudaya community leaders used music to attract people back to Judaism. This strategy successfully compelled many youth to return to the almost extinct Abayudaya community. The community has borrowed and adapted to forge a new, distinctly Jewish music. (Link to CD)

    In 2007, the approximately 800 members of the Abayudaya community live in 5 villages among the rolling, green hills of Eastern Uganda within several miles of Mbale, the third largest city in Uganda. The overall Christian, Muslim, and Jewish population of these five villages is approximately 10,000. The Abayudaya Jews live among their Christian and Muslim neighbors, supporting themselves through subsistence farming and small businesses. Even though the Abayudaya regard themselves as Jews, they realized that their isolation from the Jewish world was both dangerous and had prevented them from gaining a more thorough understanding of Judaism. At the community´s request in the spring of 2002, four Conservative rabbis from the United States and one from Israel joined Gershom Sizomu in supervising the conversion or reaffirmation of most of Uganda´s 750 remaining Jews in the community's mikva, one further step in their goal to be part world Judaism.

    Some recent returnees to the Jewish people have ancient roots. The Ibo (or Igbo) are a tribe in Nigeria numbering in the millions. Remy Illona writes in his 2005 book about the history of the Ibo: The Ibo Benei-Yisrael of Nigeria [...] are an ethnic group [that] descended from the southern and westward migrations of both ancient Hebrew and later Israeli peoples from the Middle East into Africa. [...] The oral traditions of the Ibo maintain that their presence has been in what is termed "Ibo land" for over 1,500 years. [They] state that their ancestors were migrants from ancient Israel, possibly beginning with the Semitic migrations from Northern Arabia into Eastern Africa around 500 B.C.E. Ibo oral tradition references the names of specific Lost Tribes from which these clans are believed to have originated. However, many Ibo have no awareness of their Jewish heritage. Others are aware and proud of their Jewish ancestry and are actively reclaiming Judaism. Certain Nigerian Jewish communities have been making increasing connections with world Jewry. There are relatively recent efforts to reestablish the Jewish community in Nigeria, including building synagogues. Rabbi Capers Funnye's congregation in Chicago, represented by Nigerian-born Dele Jane Osawe, is sponsoring the building of a sister synagogue in Delta State, Nigeria. Because no formal census has been taken in the region, it is unknown how many native Jews reside in Nigeria. There may be twenty-six synagogues of various sizes and estimates of possibly as many as 30,000 Ibos practicing some form of Judaism. Further research is necessary.

    The House of Israel, centered in the southwestern towns of Sefwi Wiawso and Sefwi Sui, is a relatively new Jewish community, but one that may have ancient roots. In 1976, a Ghanaian man named Aaron Ahomtre Toakyirafa recognized that the traditions of his Sefwi ancestors were similar to traditions of ancient Jews. Their story is typical of many communities in Africa: Before Christian missionaries converted much of Ghana nearly a hundred years ago, the Sefwi people practiced many “unusual” traditions, such as adherence to Saturday as a day of rest, dietary restrictions that forbade them from eating pork, the circumcision in youth of male community members, and the isolation of women in the community during their menstrual cycle. Toakyirafa, along with his neighbor, David Ahenkorah, and others, researched their community and traced their historical origins from ancient Israel, through Mali, the Ivory Coast, wandering throughout West Africa to escape persecution, to their present home in Ghana. Convinced of their Jewish origins, Toakyirafa began to teach about Judaism. After he died in 1991, many thought that Judaism would disappear from the community, but in 1993 Ahenkorah became community leader. He re-affirmed the community's Jewish identity, reinstituted open Jewish practice, and built a synagogue.

    There are several thousand people of unquestioned Jewish ancestry in Timbuktu, Mali. Egyptian Jews began trading with tribes in the northern part of Mali as long ago as biblical times and pushed further and further into the Sahara throughout the centuries. In the eighth century, the Rhadanites (multi-lingual Jewish traders) settled in Timbuktu and used it as a base from which they could solidify their trade routes through the desert. In the 14th and 15th centuries, Jews fleeing Spanish persecution settled in Timbuktu. In 1492, King Askia Muhammed took power in Timbuktu and threatened Jews with execution who did not convert to Islam. Some Jews fled, some converted, and some remained in Mali, suffering centuries of persecution. By the 20th century there were no practicing Jews in Mali. However, Malian Jewry has begun to experience a revival. In 1993, Ismael Diadie Haidara, a historian from Timbuktu, established Zakhor (the Timbuktu Association for Friendship with the Jewish World) for the almost one thousand Malian descendants of Jews who have become interested in exploring their identity. Zakhor's members hope to teach their children about their Jewish heritage and revive their interest in Judaism.

    In 1496 when the Portuguese expelled the Jews from their land and forced others to convert, many Cristãos Novos (“New Christians”) escaped to places like the islands of Cape Verde, the refueling stop on the Atlantic Ocean route to the New World. There they worked as merchants and in some cases slave traders, hiding their Judaism for generations. Ultimately, they stopped practicing Judaism in any form. Descendants of the Portuguese Cristãos Novos and the Moroccan-Jewish Cape Verdeans founded the Cape Verde-Israel Friendship Society in 1995 in order to revitalize Jewish life on the islands. In the late 1400s, King Manoel I of Portugal imposed a head tax on Jews to finance his colonial aspirations. When some Jews refused to pay the tax, the king punished them by deporting almost 2,000 Jewish children, ages 2-10, to two small islands off the west coast of Africa, São Tome and Principe; only 600 were alive a year later. Some of the surviving Jewish children retained some semblance of their parents' religion. Observances generally declined, but in the 19th and 20th centuries some Jewish traders arrived on the islands and seeded a small new community. Today there are no known practicing Jews on the islands, but the descendants of these exiled children have expressed interest in learning more about the customs of their ancestors.

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    What if the real issues at the heart of our problems really originated long before any of our souls arrived on Planet Earth? What if all of the madness goes back to Sirius, or somewhere in Orion? Once again, are all of our souls part of the 'Orion Group'? If so, why did we come here, and what were our goals? Just tracing our Earth history in great detail might not be enough. I continue to think that we need to work outward from an idealistic and mysterious blend of psychology, ethics, politics, religion, law, communications, arts, and sciences. I would like to pursue this in the context of a Theocratically-Implemented, Responsibility-Based, United States of the Solar System. I might be wrong about this, for various reasons, but I will keep passively promoting this concept, just to see where it all ends up. Others no doubt have other ideas, and this might shape-up to be a very interesting and passionate infowar. What bothers me a lot, is that so much of our civilization seems to be built on the shifting sands of lies and injustice. We seem to have woven a very tangled web of deceit. Perhaps some of this has been necessary, for various and sundry unknown reasons, but I tend to think that we need to move toward the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth -- with all deliberate speed -- whether we like it, or not. I think there have only been a couple of comments on this thread over the past three or four months. Was it something I said? Is this too boring? Is this too complicated? Is this too upsetting? 95% of my questions remain unanswered, despite all of the love, light, and enlightenment. My conclusion is that we are in very, very deep trouble -- and we don't know it -- and we seem to almost be past the point of no return. Getting this planet back on track might be much more difficult than even I think. How many people in the world are really and truly privy to what is really and truly wrong? A thousand? There's a big difference between knowing, and thinking that you know. I don't think I'm one of those who know, but I think that I have defined an area of study, within this thread, which leads one to knowing, in a fairly direct manner. Unfortunately, I am so traumatized by all of this, that I can't seem to function very well, so others really will have to carry the ball, but I'm not seeing that happening. I feel a bit like President Martinez, in 'The Event', when he calls for a reinstatement vote, even though he can hardly stand up. Jarvis reminded me of LBJ.

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    Is there any evidence that North Africa once had lush vegetation? Why would the gods choose a desert to build the pyramids and a civilization? Is the desert a result of some sort of deliberate flooding or the use of WMD's? I think I need to study the subject of African Royalty. Are we dealing with a plundering of a rich and abundant North Africa by the Raiders of the Lost Ark? Are the subjects of Reptilian Queens and North Africa related? I've heard stories. So, what if things were bad in Sirius? What if things were bad in Africa? What if the Raiders of the Lost Ark were Rebels Without a Clue? What if we are so fragmented and screwed-up that we are way past the point of no return? What if the Gods and Goddesses are Vengeful Deities? What if we are on the brink of extinction? What if the Original Sin was the Unpardonable Sin? What if all of the Pain, Suffering, and Death just isn't worth it? Would a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System which incorporated the very best psychology, ethics, politics, religion, law, communications, arts, and sciences - including the best aspects of the Old World Order and the New World Order - be worth a try? I have made detailed proposals elsewhere in this thread - with very little response - and virtually no alternatives. I have to listen to various researchers, and conduct imaginary conversations with them. There is a war going on inside of me 24/7, and for what? Why am I doing this? Insecurity is breeding more insecurity, as I slide further and further down the snake-hole. It's like a chain-reaction. Conversation is virtually non-existant. This is utter insanity. I don't know who's side I'm on, or who my enemies might be. I don't know what I'm supposed to do, or not do. I'm tired of this sick and stupid game. If one doesn't think, they are considered to be stupid. If one thinks deeply and independently, they are considered to be a threat. I get the feeling that the galactic and supernatural issues and problems are not going away anytime soon. I get the feeling that this galaxy is a zoo, and that we will experience nothing but trouble and insanity, going forward forever, no matter how hard we try to do the right thing. This is all about vengence, retribution, recompense, utter-destruction, karmic-debt, divine-justice, etc, etc, etc -- rather than being about positive and constructive solutions. I was sort of looking forward to the heaven they promised me in the hundreds of sermons I slept through, but it's beginning to look like purgatory is as good as it gets. I would like to see North Africa become lush with vegetation of some kind, with the help of desalination plants, and massive irrigation projects. Even a system of lakes or small seas would be cool. Then get rid of the war-lords and preventable-diseases -- make all areas of Africa safe to visit, live in, and invest in -- and we might be able to get something going around here. Oh, I forgot, we're not supposed to make things better. We're supposed to keep things screwed-up. Sorry.

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    Once again, I'm sorry for whatever I did to make everyone stop talking to me. Actually, hardly anyone talked to me, right from the beginning! I'm still looking for humans, reptilians, and greys to talk to. Should I make this thread more complex and scholarly? Should I make it more down to earth? Should I place the United States of the Solar System in disaster and crisis mode? The doom and gloom threads seem to be doing quite well lately! Should I discuss the likely aftermath of an all-out interplanetary war? Should I produce my own version of 'When War Comes' or 'On the Beach'? Perhaps I should really pull out all of the stops, open the swell-shutters, and produce a complete thread-page of written material, each and every day, with no pictures, but with ample footnotes and big words. Should I do a play by play of the international news? Should I imitate Alex Jones, but in a more esoteric manner? Should I rant and rave about Bill and Kerry? Should I kick Dick? Should I get everyone on the Mists to start fighting with each other? Should I do an abraxasinas imitation? Should I eat my dragon, and join the Council of Thuban? Should I start a flesh-eating and blood-drinking cult or religion, even though there's already a glut in this market? Should I tell dirty jokes, and post soft porn? Should I just give everyone what they want, and tell them what they want to hear? Should I go through the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation, preaching and teaching the Truth of God from the Word of God? Or, should I just smoke a joint and get laid? I really like interviews, documentaries, and science-fiction. I like posting on the internet, but I really do need to lower my expectations. I also need to stop posting, and get serious about writing something which might actually pay my bills. Then I might get enough money to fix-up and redecorate my house, get a new car, get a bong, and seduce a beautiful young woman to discuss the interrelationship of psychology, ethics, politics, and religion in the context of the Old World Order, the New World Order, and the New Solar System - in a Post December 21, 2012 Solar System - with a special emphasis on control of the startgate system and the advanced ancient technology. After that, we could discuss what's REALLY underneath the Vatican. When we get everything all figured-out, then we might smoke pot and get laid. But perhaps we should wait until we get married. But why get married, and spoil a beautiful relationship? We'll compromise, and wait till the second date. "You gonna make me wear one of those rubbers Mildred? You know the church says it's a sin!" What would Joseph Fletcher say? What would Bishop James Pike say? Those backslidden Episcopalians! What? Pass the Port Tawny!

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    I continue to be interested in the ethics of how money is made - from fractional reserve banking, to selling people things they don't need and which aren't good for them, to day-trading the heck out of a security, to insider-trading, to tobacco and alcohol sales, to illegal and legal drugs, to taxation, to war blood money, to bank robbery, and on and on and on and on. Does competition and money-making usually involve some sort of deception and ill-intent? Do really nice, loving, and trusting people do well in business and athletics? Get out there and win, win, win - and make lots and lots of money! Should there be some sort of an ethics-rating connected with the GNP and the S&P Rating? Does one make money by loving their neighbor as themselves, and doing unto others as they would have others do unto them? Think about it, and be honest. Why prevent an illness or injury which could make our hospitals and doctors 100K - free and clear?! No margin? No mission! Wanna go for a ride in my new Ferrari? Ethics? What's ethics? What are you? Some kind of a nut? Just take the money and run? Screw the competition and your secretary! Right? Worrying about right and wrong all the time will put you in the poor-house and the nut-house! Right? Greed is good! Right? Did I miss anything? 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vscG3k91s58 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWshPH_jsjQ Don't get me wrong, I think the human race needs challenges and game-playing. I'd just like to see us take a higher road regarding the games people play. BTW, I'd love to go for a ride in an Enzo Ferrari, without taking anyone for a ride. One more thing. I was once in an audience of around 500 people, listening to Kenneth L. Woodward, Religion Editor for 'Newsweek', and people had been asking various questions. Well, I raised my hand, and asked a question about Christians and Money. I received a fairly generic answer, and then I noticed that no one had any more questions. Mr. Woodward commented on this, and closed the Q&A. As I previously mentioned, I asked Dr. Charles Windom (C. Everret Koop's boss) what percentage of the national healthcare expenditures were for prevention? A moderator intervened with 'That was a complicated question', and I didn't get an answer. The room was filled with medical doctors, and none of them said a word about this question and the lack of an answer. Should I turn my quest into a busines, or should I just keep casting my pearls for free? What Would Loki Do? I envision a Responsible Free-Enterprise where Responsibility is Rewarded and Irresponsibility is Punished. I really do want the good guys and gals to win in business, athletics, and in all areas of life. It seems to work in just the opposite manner presently. I will continue to conceptualize the most idealistic United States of the Solar System that I possibly can, in the context of real-world catastrophies and horrors. This concept would take a HUGE amount of time and effort to properly develop and implement. I still like the idea of a University of Solar System Studies and Governance, with campuses throughout the solar system, being at the core of a U.S.S.S. Peer review, study, research, graduate-student questions, etc. would help to keep things on the up and up -- but it would obviously not be a guarantee. I really do need a lot of help in developing this concept. This is just a brain-storm and a study-guide. This is the Dawning of a Brave New Solar System. Don't be frightened. I mean no harm. I am of peace. Always.

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    The following is a rephrasing of what I have already posted. Are we dealing with a Sirius A v Sirius B Civil War - Distally? Are we dealing with an African (Sirius A) Old World Order v European and American (Sirius B) New World Order continuation of the hypothetical Sirian War in Heaven - Proximally? What were, and are, the issues in Sirius? What were, and are, the issues here? I have issues with the Pope, the Queen, the Queen of Heaven, and the God of This World -- but I don't know what the real issues have been -- going back thousands or even millions of years. We know that Adolph Hitler and Pope Pius XII did some questionable things in the 1930's and 1940's -- but who were they taking orders from -- and did they REALLY know what was going on?? I think that sorting this out could be VERY confusing and dangerous. What if Michael / Horus / Jesus is both a friend and an enemy of BOTH sides? What if he (or she?) has been both a peace-maker and a brutal-warrior? What if he or she is not even close to being perfect? What if Earth was supposed to be Paradise for the Orion Group from Sirius -- but turned out to be Purgatory and Hell? I don't think that physical and spiritual existence began on Earth. I don't think our problems began on Earth, and I don't think our problems will end if we get talked into going somewhere else. My immediate concern is to prevent the extinction of the human race, and to improve Purgatory. I might be aiming too low, but it's a start. One more thing. Xylanthia, which supposedly orbits Sirius C, has no night, because of its proximity to Sirius A and B. Revelation 22:5 speaks of no night in Heaven or the New Jerusalem. Some say that we are from Xylanthia. Check this out. http://xylanthia.com/ Interesting...
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    XI. "Thou Shalt Not Talk to Orthodoxymoron".

    I'd still like to know what happened 2-4 months ago, relative to me and my views. I would appreciate articulations, pro or con, regarding what I have posted. I continue to be sluggish and passive, even though I hate being this way. I'm really easy to deal with, at this point, but I'm firming up my views, slowly but surely, so now would be an optimal time to debate me, and possibly change my mind. It might not be quite so easy in a year or two, although I intend to always remain open and honest.
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    Take another look at 'Star Wars', 'Battlestar Galactica' (I typed this 5 seconds before BSG was mentioned on the Alex Jones show!), 'The Event', 'V' (old and new), 'Avatar', and the Alex Jones documentaries. This all fits together. Once again, I am trying to be on everyone's side, rather than circling the wagons and closing my mind. I don't relish trench-warfare with anyone. Continue to use my work as a study-guide, rather than being the last word. (although I doubt anyone has done that!) I am defining areas of study, and I am posing questions, which will hopefully lead to some of the solutions we need. I'm hoping to become a better live and in-person debater, but I certainly have a long way to go in this regard. I have a burning desire to be a Master-Debater. I'm still a back of the room observer and commenter. But, really, perhaps that's the way it should stay. They say that it takes all kinds, and perhaps I fill some sort of a void. Who knows? Unrelatedly, perhaps I should spend a lot of time studying Sirius from both a scientific and a non-scientific perspective. Even the original 'V' in the 80's revealed the Visitors as being from Sirius. Old 'Dr. Who' episodes dealt with ET's from Sirius. Have there been any suggestions that Nibiru is Sirius C? If so, is a planet orbiting with it? What would happen to the motion of Sirius A and B if Sirius C were removed? It seems strange that the huge Sirius A would orbit the very small Sirius C dwarf-star. Any thoughts? Perhaps I should spend some quality time with Patricia Cori. Finally, is Zeus really Michael / Horus / Jesus? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuFhWvU1nbQ What do you think of the reincarnating archangel hypothesis? What if the mythologies and religions revolve around very real rival archangels? The myths and religions might be 90% fabrication, but might still contain 10% absolute truth ( plus or minus 5%). The various religions and myths might be different versions of the same things. A minor deity might create a myth of a major deity. In the beginning god created God? Perhaps both the fundamentalists and the atheists are wrong. God might not exist - but there might be a very real god. I suggest this with the deepest respect for the Universal Powers That Be. If God did not exist - it might be necessary for god to invent God. Perhaps the Figure of Jesus as the God/Man is a reasonable representation of a very real Divinity - as a Human Body with an Archangelic Soul. Perhaps God really is One of Us. Remember in 'The Day the Earth Stood Still' the ET said that his body was human. Perhaps all of us are ET's on the soul-level. Perhaps all of us are angelic at the soul-level. Once again, watch this Stargate SG-1 compilation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b365_qJEpDg It's somewhat sacrilegious, but it helps to illustrate my point. Think about it, and then talk to me. One more thing, I have a Bible I really like, although I suspect that many Christians would object to it, and I would understand why. It is the 'Remnant Study Bible - with E.G. White Comments'. It is a Red-Letter Edition, New King James Version of the Holy Bible, with Ellen White Quotations Throughout. I like the idea of studying Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John - and looking up the referenced texts throughout the Bible which are in fine-print. You might like to try this approach while listening to sacred classical music. I am not a big fan of Fundamentalist Innerrantists -- or of Backslidden Liberal Scoffers. I like the idea of alternating between liberal and conservative -- rather than being one or the other. Don't try to pin me down or pigeon-hole me. I won't cooperate...
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    I worry about who REALLY controls ALL of the WMD's in the Solar System. What if they are ALL controlled by a single organization, or even a single individual? My bias is that a New World Order Solar System Government has existed for thousands of years, after defeating an Old World Order Solar System Government, but this is mostly intuition and speculation. When UFO's shut-down a missile silo, it might be a staged show, wherein the Secret Government uses the Secret Space Program to appear to shut-down part of the Secret WMD Program. Are the WMD's currently in the Best of Hands or the Worst of Hands? Who knows? I know who knows, but they're not talking...

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    Has anyone thought about the Crystal Cathedral or St. Mary's Cathedral (or both) as being the symbolic headquarters of a hypothetical Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System, with the University of California system being the foundation of a University of Solar System Studies and Governance, tied into Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Los Alamos National Laboratory, Area 51, the Mag-Lev Train System, the DUMB's, and the Secret Space Program -- throughout the Solar System? Remember, this is a conceptual test. This is only a test. I get really nervous and uneasy whenever I think about this sort of thing. When I post this sort of thing, probably others do as well. The Cathedral Idea is really for glory, grandeur, pomp, and circumstance - with perhaps 2,000 of the 10,000 U.S.S.S. Representatives in attendance. If both Cathedrals were used, one could serve as the House, with the other as the Senate. All representatives would be united by a very secure and encrypted InterPlaNet SuperLuminal Internet System (Patent Pending). I keep wondering what the Pentagon, the Russians, and the Chinese would think of such a development? Would this result in a safer, or a more dangerous solar system? Lots of eyes would prevent corruption and megalomania -- but would this result in WMD Mass Confusion? All of this is VERY frightening for me to think about. Is it helpful for the general public to think about this subject? What do you think? I think this might be the crazy-stage in my thought process. Probably the DUMB's located throughout the Solar System would be where the 10,000 U.S.S.S. Representatives would reside. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v8Txa2LRBE I'm nervous about having all of them in one location, or even having all of them on one moon or one planet. Perhaps the University of Solar System Studies and Governance would simply exist to provide an education to prospective Representative Candidates. I don't want corruption. I don't want incompetence. I don't want confusion. I don't want any bullshit whatsoever. Any questions? What would Dr. Strangelove say?
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    THE UNITED STATES OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM REPRESENTATIVES. SOLDIERS OF REASON OR SOLDIERS OF CIRCULAR-REASONING?

    A Thousand Representatives (a thousand points of light?) in a single location would be a lot simpler, wouldn't it? Circular-seating for a thousand at St. Mary's? Or how about Mt. Weather? But how would they be chosen? How would they be kept safe? How would they be kept uncorrupted? How would they be hired and fired? What if one of them went rogue? What if they all went rogue? What would Percy and Nikita say? What if they suddenly all became demon possessed? I just think it would be cool to be around the 1,000 genuinely best and brightest beings in the solar system, for an extended period of time. The trouble is, the best ideas and intentions often turn to ashes. I like really, really smart and wise people who don't talk a lot, but when they do, they have a helluva lot to say, with very few words. Sometimes one sentence in one hour is more than enough. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgSSRE27GQ0 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpL6EIMShO4&NR=1 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It0Dtm1gFFQ&feature=related Imagine a roomful of people like Rachael (Angela Bassett) in 'Contact'. I have spoken to individuals who were like this, on very rare occasions. Is anyone following this thread? If so, are they keeping up with this madness? No matter how one puts things together, it always seems wrong somehow. Perhaps that's the way it is. What would Walter Cronkite say? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj0bwLBckkI What if the most competent individuals in the solar system are a roomful of Kabbalists, Nazis, and Dracs? The solar system might be stranger than we can possibly imagine. I'm frankly preparing myself for just about anything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSzyO86Npj0 Who do you think Mr. Hadden is in real-life? Did Mr. Hadden live on a UFO/JET which rarely landed for anyone? Who is Rachel in real-life? Who is Palmer Joss in real-life? 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyYdJ_YgUmQ&feature=related 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a1iKvttEAk&feature=related How does one keep the best and the brightest at the top of the heap, at all times -- rather than having the most corrupt and powerful at the top of the pyramid? Those who have the ability to make it to the top, might not do the best job at the top. So, how many individuals should be at the top of solar system governance? Where should they meet? What should they do?

    Would a Theocratically-Implemented, Responsibility-Based, United States of the Solar System, with 10,000 PhD Representatives, keep the best and the brightest at the top? Who would compose the Theocratic aspect of this formula? How would they be chosen? What would they do? Would a theocratic aspect even need to exist? Does there need to be an authority of last resort? Or, should we just have a God or a Trinity of Gods run the whole solar system? Can a Good God become a Bad God? What if 95% of the solar system hates God? If there were no theocratic interaction whatsoever, what would be the fate of humanity in this solar system? Are we about to find out? It makes me wonder. It really makes me wonder. They supposedly had the best and the brightest at the Rand Corporation, but read 'Soldiers of Reason'. It'll scare the hell out of you. Then, read 'Family of Secrets'. When you're done with that, read 'The Secret Plot to Make Ted Kennedy President'. I keep getting the sinking feeling that things will always be a mess, no matter what we do. One incompetent and corrupt team replaces another incompetent and corrupt team replaces another incompetent and corrupt team replaces another incompetent and corrupt team. Everyone is an expert, and thinks they can do a better job, until they get their chance, and fall flat on their faces. "Spin-Doctors to the War-Room for Damage-Control! STAT!!" "Forget the economy!! It's appearances, STUPID!!" Imagine there's no idiots! It's easy, if you try! If there is a solar sytem war in progress, can all of you evolve just a little bit more? "Peace! Be still!" Take some Ex-Lax. Smoke a joint. Get laid. Do what you have to do to calm-down. Try really, really hard to think and behave rationally. How much of an Iron-Fist and a Titanium-Backbone is necessary to keep this Solar System from self-destructing? All we need is love? Why didn't I think of that? The rich and the clever always seem to profit from whatever situation exists. The good are often naive. The bad are often clever. How can we make sure that the best and the brightest run things, and continue to do the right thing, regardless of the temptations to do otherwise? One more thing. In 'Contact', why did the blind-guy tell the National Security Advisor, "It's nice to smell you"? I guess the bottom-line is that the fun never ends. We just keep going 'round and 'round in circles with our circular-reasoning and endless-fighting. World without end or reason. Amen Ra. Isis? Both? I know there are millions or even billions of people who are smarter than me, but how many people think like I do? Probably not very many. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I continue to experience a tremendous sense of dread, combined with my incurable optimism and unyielding despair. Am I too good, or am I not good enough for you? Which is it? Both? Would you like me to hold your coats? You know where I live and work, if you'd like to talk to me. You even have my phone-number and email-address. On the other hand, perhaps I should just get out of Dodge... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiU77PamYls&feature=related

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    I have mixed feelings about reptilian humanoid beings. If they were loving, kind, and ethical - I'd be willing to deal with them in kind - but I keep hearing horror stories. I really get the feeling that most of them don't like human beings one little bit. I don't doubt that there are exceptions, and I have stated repeatedly, that if I absolutely knew that I would not be harmed in any way, and that I wouldn't be kidnapped, I would hitch a ride on a Draconian Mothership or Queenship. Strange appearance and behavior wouldn't make me hate them. But if they enslaved, tortured, killed, and ate humans - the party would be over. I keep wondering if reptilian humanoids have the same type of soul as mammalian humanoids? I keep wondering if the human race has reptilian roots? Instead of being created by the reptilians as a slave race, what if we were the reptilians who created ourselves, so to speak, in a hybridization program? I know that 'Creating Ourselves' sounds strange, but I think we should consider all possibilities, no matter how ridiculous they might seem to be. I keep thinking that evil lurks behind Nibiru, Elenin, and Fukushima. I want this nasty madness to end. I'm not really sure what I'm doing on this thread. It really is a strange mix! What should this sort of thing be called, other than madness? I'm not representing myself as being any sort of authority or insider. I'm not selling anything, yet. I don't do channeling or regression. I've had some strange experiences, but I haven't gone looking for them, other than passively researching and being open to a wide variety of possibilities, including the possibility that bad guys and gals can become good guys and gals. I have been somewhat political, but I don't get involved in politics as usual. I see eye to eye with Alex Jones and Ron Paul, but my style is completely different than theirs. I speak of religion, yet I am a strange mixture of conservative and liberal, orthodox and heretic. I engage in fantasy and science-fiction, yet I try to make it as reality-based as possible. I think I might have an interesting reincarnational past, for a variety of reasons, yet I don't know what that past is. I chickened-out about doing an FOIA inquiry. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. One more thing. What is the relationship between North-Africa, the Vatican, the Nazis, the Persians, and Teutonic-Zionism? The answer to this question might have everything to do with the alleged Vatican Slush Fund Accounts, and with who owns the Presidents, Congress, Treasury, and the Supreme Court. There seems to be an underlying current of the Ancient Raiders of North African Civilization, which might've included the Lost Ark. I wonder if the Vatican and the Secret Government are reformable. I think there is a way to do it right, but what are the chances of this happening? Would a Vatican-Based, Namaste-Constitutional, Responsible-Freedom United States of the Solar System have a chance of properly cleaning things up, and setting this solar system on a proper course, going forward for thousands or millions of years? I tend to think that those who know the most about what's really going on in this solar system are at the highest and deepest levels of the Vatican, both figuratively and literally, if you know what I mean. I will continue to imagine myself as being a Renegade French Jesuit Organist. What a tangled tale I weave...

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    Don't be frightened. I mean no harm. Continue to watch everything and listen to everyone, without placing too much weight or trust in anyone or anything. Each day is a new day. Be prepared to start over every day. Today, I'm listening to an audio-version of the 'Book of Enoch'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKnTAbmHSrw&feature=related Here is the printed version. http://www.sherryshriner.com/books/complete_book_of_enoch.htm This thread is only a study-guide. It's only the beginning, and it just scratches the surface. The more I learn, the less I seem to know. Just keep researching and asking questions. Never stop, but this won't be easy. Things might be unimaginably difficult, but never give up. Namaste and Godspeed. I am of peace. Always.
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    The Indian Way is probably a valid and beneficial one, but I'm addicted to a pluralistic internet path, which is reflective and meditative, yet which is just the opposite of emptying one's mind. I wouldn't mind being a Renegade French Jesuit Organist living in a French Catholic Monastery with a Cray Supercomputer and a Sport-Model UFO! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enWiFcsBqIE Imagine what I'd be like if I took drugs...

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgNj2Sf_mgo Nestled deep in the postcard-perfect French Alps, the Grande Chartreuse is considered one of the world's most ascetic monasteries. In 1984, German filmmaker Philip Gröning wrote to the Carthusian order for permission to make a documentary about them. They said they would get back to him. Sixteen years later, they were ready. Gröning, sans crew or artificial lighting, lived in the monks' quarters for six months—filming their daily prayers, tasks, rituals and rare outdoor excursions. This transcendent, closely observed film seeks to embody a monastery, rather than simply depict one—it has no score, no voiceover and no archival footage. What remains is stunningly elemental: time, space and light. One of the most mesmerizing and poetic chronicles of spirituality ever created, INTO GREAT SILENCE dissolves the border between screen and audience with a total immersion into the hush of monastic life. More meditation than documentary, it's a rare, transformative theatrical experience for all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUYjqp5PDdc&feature=player_embedded

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    I'm actually more interested in seeing what people do with the subjects I have briefly touched upon than I am with the thread itself. I'm sort of an intellectual pak-rat. I venture forth into the cold, cruel world - and just keep bringing back bits and pieces of this and that. This is really a 'Look what I just found! Now what are you gonna do!' thread. "OMG! Look what OXY dragged in! Yuck!" What do you think about the warnings of the coastlines being hit by earthquakes, walls of water, and chunks of the coastline falling into the ocean? I'm basing some of my conceptual work on Californian Cathedrals and the University of California Campuses, many of which are very close to the Pacific Ocean. I have a nasty vision of everything being set-up picture-perfect, and subsequently being utterly destroyed by the Vengeful Deities with unrighteous indignation...

    Thank-you mudra. This is all way above what I can think about properly, which is why I keep asking for help and insights. I suspected a lot of this decades ago, but I decided not to get in over my head, and to not stick my nose where it didn't belong, so I just listened to Art Bell, and thought a lot. The internet changed everything. I was practicing the pipe-organ 4 or 5 years ago, and I seemed to hear a still, small voice, saying 'Everything is going to be revealed, and brought out into the open. There's going to be a big fight, and then things will be better.' I certainly hope that things will be better, but I'm not holding my breath...

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:43 pm

    EAST OF GIZA? THE QUEST FOR THE HISTORICAL HORUS?

    Possible Pecking Order:

    Ancient Egyptian/Atlantian Old World Order? Osiris (Adam?) and Isis (Kate?) ruling behind the scenes, with Ra (Cal?) and Horus (Aaron?) serving as Pharaohs (or equivalent)?

    1. Osiris?
    2. Isis?
    3. Horus? (favored by Osiris?)
    4. Ra? (favored by Isis?)

    Osiris Forceably Removed from the Solar System? Horus taken hostage? Original Hostage Horus? Sorry KRLLL. Ancient Babylonian/Egyptian/Grecian/Roman New World Order? Isis ruling behind the scenes, with Ra and Horus serving as Pharaohs (or equivalent)?

    1. Isis?
    2. Ra?
    3. Horus?
    Osiris Removed?

    Horus rebels against Isis, and becomes a deposed and crucified personna non grata? Isis continues to rule behind the scenes, with Ra serving as emperors (or equivalent)?

    1. Isis?
    2. Ra?
    Horus deposed and crucified?

    Ra and Horus join forces to overthrow Isis around 700-900 A.D.? Isis continues to rule behind the scenes, with Kings, Queens, and Popes serving in place of Christ, or Antichrist? Ra and Horus work behind the scenes against Isis? Both are now deposed and personnas non grata?

    1. Isis?
    2. Kings, Queens, and Popes?
    Horus works as an architect, artist, musician, and writer for the Vatican?

    Ra overthrows Isis during the Second World War, but Horus is deeply traumatized by the horrors of the World Wars, and the Weapons of Mass Destruction? Ra rules supremely? Horus is completely out of power, broken and despondant? Ra initiates the modern version of the New World Order, complete with the United Nations, Roswell, the Alphabet Agencies, Project Paperclip, the Secret Space Program, the Secret Government, the Nazification of the United States, Vatican II, Senseless Undeclared Wars, the UN Charter superseding the US Constitution, False-Flag Terrorism, Deep Underground Military Bases, Secret Genetic Hybridization Experiments, Introduction of Invented Diseases such as AIDS, etc., etc. - as a prelude to a Harsh and Open New World Order Dictatorship/Theocracy/Technocracy following deliberately inflicted Earth-Changes, Various Extermination Modalities, Alien-Invasions, and a Staged Second-Coming of Christ?

    1. Ra?
    2. Kings, Queens, Popes, and Presidents?
    Isis is now mostly out of power, but continues to work behind the scenes?
    Horus has no reincarnational remembrance, and lives an ordinary life?
    Osiris returns, intent on executing divine justice upon a Planet in Rebellion?
    Horus starts to remember, and intercedes for Humanity, despite mankind's reprehensible original and continuing sin?
    Ra threatens to exterminate the human race if he is removed from power?
    The various hidden factions fight for power?

    What will happen in the next exciting episode of EAST OF GIZA?
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    So, where do I go from here? Where would I end up if I overdosed on the following?

    1. Nature.
    2. The Four Gospels.
    3. Sacred Classical Music.
    4. The Federalist Papers.
    5. The Anti-Federalist Papers.
    6. The U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.

    I feel as though I need some resolution to all of my delving into this, and delving into that. Or perhaps I should delve into Zoroastrianism, and meditate upon the Zoroastrian Jesus, flying high above the altar of the Cathedral of St. John, the Divine. Seriously, I think I'm going to give the Aliens and the Egyptians a rest. One more thing. After practicing the organ at the local church, a very long time ago, I thought I heard a still, small voice saying 'I'm going to get as much mileage out of the old theology as I can, but I'm working on a new theology.' I'm probably paraphrasing this a bit, but that was the gist. One evening, while practicing the organ at this same church, the organist entered the church, and in a very strange voice asked 'Who's here, and why?' I had been practicing the Toccata and Fugue in D-minor by J.S. Bach - so it was sort of creepy! When they were constructing this huge pipe-organ, people were talking about the errection of the organist's organ -- in church!!! I even watched!!! What would Guy Bovet say??? (Gee Bow-vey)

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    What were the conditions in the Old World Order which gave rise to the New World Order? What are the conditions in the New World Order which will give rise to the New Solar System? What will the conditions be in the New Solar System which will give rise to whatever newfangled idea some crack-pot like me dreams up? Seriously, has anything worked for any significant length of time, anywhere in the universe? We get bored. We get cranky. We get agitated. We get rebellious. We are a restless and fickle race, but what about the other races? This is why I am a combination of incurable optimism and unyielding despair. No matter how carefully and expertly things are planned and implemented, something will always go wrong. Maybe even seriously and devastatingly wrong. I will continue to conceptualize that which is idealistic, yet I will prepare for every conceivable disaster. Is my marital-spat and sibling-rivalry model of solar system governance somewhat close to the mark? I have no idea, but it might get some of you thinking in ways which will result in a definitive answer. I need to get serious about all of this, and I need to be much less of a smart-alec or a dumass. My posts should probably read like George Will or Hugh Sidey editorials on the Presidency. How is the general public holding up out there? Are more people becoming mentally-ill, due to all of the complex and confusing information in books, lectures, and on the internet? Will the people who care the most, get hurt the worst? I tend to think so. It shouldn't be that way, but I suspect that it is...

    Beren wrote:
    Carol wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:XI. "Thou Shalt Not Talk to Orthodoxymoron".

    I'd still like to know what happened 2-4 months ago, relative to me and my views. I would appreciate articulations, pro or con, regarding what I have posted. I continue to be sluggish and passive, even though I hate being this way. I'm really easy to deal with, at this point, but I'm firming up my views, slowly but surely, so now would be an optimal time to debate me, and possibly change my mind. It might not be quite so easy in a year or two, although I intend to always remain open and honest.

    Oxy, have you ever considered the possibility that most people don't feel they have the knowledge that you have or expertise of the subject matter to debate you?

    You sir, have created a rarefied atmosphere for debate that only the Masters who have access to universal knowledge could step in and clarify your confusion.

    Most of the members just sit in awe of what you manage to come up with.

    One would have to be well versed in the topics you present even to comment... but this little reality doesn't stop folks from following your threads to see what you sorted out to question next. In the end... you will discover that all of the answers to these questions really do dwell within you and will flow forth once you consciously connect to universal mind.

    I often thought the exploration of ones own consciousness the most intriguing, the most interesting, the most challenging, the most fun and the most satisfying past-time one could engage in. Unfortunately, the western political climate disagrees and creates laws to stop activities that would allow humankind to make that evolutionary leap. Most will have to wait for a NDE or OBE for this to happen... and fewer still, those committed to a spiritual practice, will understand what this is all about.


    I am with Carol on this one . Ortho remember that I told you few years ago that among other things you were the reason why I decide to join AV 1 few year ago! I see how deeply you are into all this and I see your good soul all twisted up in the net of all these information which in fact is suffocating real you.

    Simply put all religion failed to draw close man to God. They all have pieces of truth but they all decided to rather follow men and not God. And this world is the result of that.

    Imagine Jesus today walking at Vatican or any other church or faith on Earth...would he reason with them or they'd look like offspring of pharisees and scribes?

    Truth is simple and truth in open for all and truth liberates ,leads to Happiness and Love.
    I don't see much that in all religions along with Vatican upon the forehead of all.

    So friend, be well and step out of noise that you are currently into. It will do your soul good.

    Be blessed in the name of Christ.

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    Thinking out-of-the-box
    Thank-you Beren and Carol. In many respects, this thread is a most simple and elementary study, even though it might not seem like it, at times. I am attempting to use the methodology of theme and variations, wherein a theme is repeated over and over, but each time in a different way, such as in the 'Passacaglia and Fugue in C-minor' by J.S. Bach (BWV 582). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STij8KmsgcI I used to be able to play this piece, and it was a helluva lot of fun! A Widor-like cadenza-improvization rocks! I like a union of the German-Baroque and the French-Romantic concepts. It's almost as if Bach reincarnated into the French organists, or at least gave them lessons! Perhaps they were given much of the music they 'composed'. Who knows? I can imagine discussing all of this with someone like Alex Collier or William Bramley, especially regarding the subjects of Jesus, and of what an ideal political and religious system might consist of, at the macro level. Collier evidently agreed with Bramley's book 'The Gods of Eden', except regarding what he wrote about Jesus. Collier pointed toward Jesus being somewhat of a composite. Bramley has written a whole book about Jesus, which I have not read, but which I do intend to read. I have spoken about Jesuits both negatively and positively. The best Jesuits know a helluva lot, and they have extensive libraries, but I think they have everything to do with some very dark activities, going back many centuries, and I think they've been working for the wrong boss. But perhaps they have been fighting fire with fire in a hidden political and religious war, which I can't even begin to imagine. Not in this incarnation anyway. I continue to agree with Raven, that I am a completely ignorant fool, spending hours and hours typing internet bs, hoping for some small acknowledgement, etc, etc. I'm not in the big-leagues in any of this, and I know it. The 'Federalist Papers' are an example of big-league debate and discussion. I am amazed at the level of intellectual excellence in these papers, written and spoken centuries ago, and I am saddened and ashamed at our level of debate and discussion, on the same subjects, centuries later. Complexity is viewed as being confusion, as if ignorance were deemed to be a virtue, and genuine questioning, researching, and hypothesizing viewed as being a vice. I speak of Sacred Classical Music. If you are ever in a music store, ask to see some of the sheet music of Bach, Buxtehude, Widor, Vierne, and Dupre. It is unbelievably complex, and I often wonder if they could've really composed this music by themselves. Did Handel really write the complete 'Messiah' in three weeks? I tend to doubt it. Anyway, I guess I'll just keep thinking outside of the box, mostly on this thread, and in subsequent rewrites and reapplications. As I have mentioned previously, I seem to have met several individuals who were remarkably similar to the main characters in the funny, but sacrilegious movie 'Dogma'. I once walked up to 'Rufus', holding a box next to my head, saying 'I like to think outside of the box'! I even sang one of the love songs I had composed to 'Rufus', acapella. He seemed surprised! Perhaps I should try to do some popular music writing, rather than whipping this seemingly dead horse thread. Perhaps the time is not right for the ideas expressed in this thread. On the other hand, Dr. Ron Paul is very popular, especially away from the mainstream media crowd. I attended a rally at the University of Nevada at Las Vegas, which was packed with enthusiastic young people, hanging on the every word of an aging, and not that dynamic Republican, right at the tail-end of the failed Bush Presidency. PLEASE read 'A Foreign Policy of Freedom' by Ron Paul. It is a collection of speeches, which Dr. Paul made throughout the years. I see eye to eye with Ron Paul. I also mostly see eye to eye with Alex Jones and his guests, but I choose to not rant and rave. I just mumble on the internet, and live in my very own sci-fi show. Is it really possible to run the solar system without dealing with the devil? The powers that be seem to be more corrupt than hell itself, but what are ALL of the reasons for this? Should PTB really stand for 'Pawns That Be'? I often feel as if the center of my consciousness is located on the Moon or Mars, rather than in my messy house here on Earth...
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    Take a look at this! I'd sort of like that 600 square-foot office/apartment to be somewhere in space! A universe of information and experiences await us! Can't we just all get along??? I wonder what Richard Branson might think of a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System?

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58cdGWK9FMA&feature=related
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APvW1OELo-k&NR=1&feature=fvwp
    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO0EtiVH580&feature=related
    4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-snm5HqR2Uc&feature=fvwp&NR=1
    5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxKk26l5Y5g&feature=relmfu
    6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIGnfrLGLx8&feature=related
    7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ItU3o-wE5w&feature=related (I witnessed several up-close fly-bys of the SR-71 at Norton AFB! Wow!! Straight-up at the end of the demonstration!!!)
    8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNEKhxvEvlc
    9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTiysOs-91w
    10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNl_X85vF9s&feature=related

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    Break time! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmLccyKadbY Time to get some rest!

    Consider the following:

    1. Osiris being most closely associated with Egypt, the Old World Order, God the Father, and the Incoming Annunaki.
    2. Isis being most closely associated with Italy, Faction I of the New World Order, Archangel Gabriel, the Queen of Heaven, and the Local Annunaki.
    3. Ra being most closely associated with Germany, Faction II of the New World Order, Archangel Lucifer, the God of This World, and a Rebel Annunaki.
    4. Horus being most closely associated with France and/or England, Faction III of the New World Order, Archangel Michael, the Historical Horus, and a Rebel Annunaki.

    I have no idea how much of the above is true, and it might all be a crock. I could speculate further, but things might get too complicated and messy. Is there a constructive way to combine the best aspects of all of the above, while eliminating the worst aspects? Were there genuinely good Nazi Jesuits in the 1930's? I don't know, but consider the high-technology supposedly derived from Gizeh Intelligence, combined with Ecclesiastical and Military Excellence, but without the strong-arming, persecution and destruction of the undesireables, the racism, the horrors of war, the experimentation, and the extermination. Look at the videos of Hitler and Pacelli in the 30's. I don't know what they knew at that point, but they don't act like evil people, at least in public. But the 40's were horrific to the nth degree. Gizeh Intelligence supposedly pulled the plug in '41. Everything went to hell. Two atomic bombs were dropped on civilian populations by the 'good-guys'. Or were they pre-placed? The smoking gun was a mushroom cloud. Two of them, actually. The insanity and carnage were extreme. What the hell happened? Think about it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tga2FX9Ai9c I find this sort of thing to be fascinating, and not just regarding the digging-up of dirt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szms_ZJ3qWo&feature=related I think it's important to not just see everything in reactionary terms, and in black and white, all or nothing extremes. I tend to be a reformer, rather than condemming everyone, except the faithful-few, to hell. I keep imagining myself being a Renegade French Jesuit Organist, and I'm really not trying to be funny or sarcastic. Think of where the Statue of Liberty came from. Where did Benjamin Franklin hang out? Where are some of the coolest churches, pipe-organs, and organists to be found? Perhaps I should start a Neo-Hellfire Club! This looks interesting! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkfqakkBPNg&feature=related I just think that it is essential to properly understand Egypt, Italy, Germany, and France - politically and religiously. Isn't this a creepy statue of Pope Pius XII?? You need to enlarge it to get the full impact. The horror...
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    I live close to the coast, and close to sea-level, yet I have no plans to move, other than when I get kicked out of my house later this year. I'll probably just rent an apartment down the street. When the giants, zombies, dracs, and shape-shifting UN troops knock on my door, I'll offer them a pot of coffee, and ask them about their wife and kids. I'd still like to see a scholarly insider evaluation of this thread, including all referenced materials and links. I'd also like to see a scholarly insider evaluation of myself. The latter would most assuredly be less flattering than the former. I really do hate myself and my present life, for what I think are quite valid reasons, of which I am sure many would agree, and probably have agreed for a very long time. I've even been called 'Satan' within the sacred Mists of Avalon by someone who seemed to be quite intelligent and experienced. But how should one properly define the word 'Satan'? I still like the idea of a University of Solar System Studies and Governance, possibly based within the University of California system, consisting of dozens of campuses throughout the world, and throughout the solar system -- but this is just brainstorming without research. Symbol over Substance, if you will. I like the idea of a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System which is secular in a sacred way, or sacred in a secular way. I don't want a Fascist-Dictatorship, but I certainly don't want a Godless and Lawless Free for All...

    I'm going to try once again to press forward with internalizing this thread in a more organized and sane way. This is just one perspective, but I think I need to do a better job of representing it. I think I need to engage in a lot of repetition and memorization. I need to just do some non-internet writing, and stop begging for attention. The confusion needs to resolve into a coherent whole, such that I can access all of this information with relative ease. I'll represent this perspective on life, the universe, and everything. Others will represent their perspectives, and somehow something constructive might emerge. A solution will emerge. It's a big idea. A Brave New Solar System will electrify the galaxy! I'm still haunted by what might've happened in North Africa in antiquity. I think something very catastrophic occurred. Who were the Raiders of the Lost Ark, exactly? Who wronged who? I think we might need to properly sort out our ancient baggage, and find out about the skeletons in the closets throughout the solar system. There might be more trouble to deal with than we think. Anyway, I'm going to try to get my act together, in more ways than one. I have a huge amount of work to do, relative to self-governance and character-development. On a more positive note, I leave you with this. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaDmU4Uay_w&feature=related 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jyG9H-XdUY&feature=related 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_E7B_8Pxmo&feature=related 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT6eVLPI7sw&feature=related 5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pAsrLascUg 6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMo6h2u1jSM&feature=related 7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHqGwJBbBHg&feature=related 8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLaqY7YMTB4&feature=related 9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rig6b-jogg&feature=related
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    Consider the Avignon Papacy. 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avignon_Papacy 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeDs9xdqbNI&feature=related Consider possible differences between Roman Catholicism, German Catholicism, French Catholicism, and American Catholicism. Follow the music, for starters. Also, consider the Anglican Church of England, and the Religious Views of the Founders of the United States of America. I know next to nothing about all of the above. Is it possible that we are dealing with Three New World Order Factions of an Egyptian Old World Order? Consider the Waldenses and the Albigenes. Consider where some say that Jesus went after surviving the Crucifixion. Is there some sort of a unity between France, England, Canada, and the United States -- especially regarding politics and religion? Consider the Magna Carta, the US Constitution, the Anglicans, the Episcopalians, and the sometimes rebellious American Catholics. Consider Teutonic Zionism, the Great Schism, the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Reformation, the French Revolution, the American Revolution, and the Three (Four?) Reichs. This is really scaring me, even though I know very little about it. I've most recently hung around the Episcopalians, and I've been listening to a lot of French Romantic Church Music. I also have been a bit upset by crucifixes, but I noticed that at Notre Dame de Paris, they use a crucifix in the procession, which has a very small figure of Jesus. The Anglicans and Episcopalians use crosses, but not Crucifixes with a Dying Christ figure. Has there been a Teutonic takeover of the Monarchy, the Papacy, France, and the United States? I really should stop. This is creeping me out. I'm going to take a tranquilizer, and re-read 'Rise of the Fourth Reich', 'SS Brotherhood of the Bell', 'Great Controversy', and 'Dark Mission'...
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    What if an Ecumenical Christian Church Service consisted of Sacred Classical Music for the Prelude, Processional, Recessional, and Postlude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJnv53fpusc&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=PLD768A221F84347A8 -- with QUALITY Contemporary Christian Music comprising the rest of the service -- with very little speaking, standing, bending, and nodding. It would basically be just music, with the people praying privately (as instructed by Christ). The choir and leaders would wear robes, and there might be incense, with the service beginning and ending like many Roman Catholic or Anglican services https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6osnM6JE9k&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLA5F49A5C20664122 -- but then the service would morph into a Contemporary Praise-Style Service -- only the music would be in the manner of 'The Second Chapter of Acts' and 'Sandy Patty',

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZOW3zaedMg&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=AVGxdCwVVULXfSORpSSOyuJVnKIxRP_AqJ
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OuuaLn__98&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=AVGxdCwVVULXctTXvMd1V7-wMRIQ0dGHte

    rather than being of the mindless and repetitious ilk. More conservative congregations might sing traditional hymns exclusively. Do you see my point? Instead of getting religion crammed down one's throat, people would be elevated by the fellowship and music -- and would then study the scriptures and other materials on their own, or they might attend various classes. Think about it. I have thought this way for a very long time, but I certainly have side-stepped this approach within this thread, and I'm not sure why. I like listening to the Latin Mass, because of the almost continual use of music, and because I can read and meditate while listening to a dead language which will not distract me from my train of thought. I do not support liturgical chaos or flippancy. I do not support being slain in the spirit or holy laughter. I support the idea of dressing up as if one were attending a very traditional Latin Mass, then entering the church with reverence and awe, as traditional Catholics do. But then, once the leaders and choir were in place, a contemporary musical service would continue for at least 30 minutes, in a reverent yet joyful manner. The service would then end as many Latin Masses do -- with a Recession and Sacred Classical Music. I continue to support both an Exoteric and Esoteric Study of the Teachings of Jesus -- but perhaps this should mostly be a private journey. See if you can find an older contemporary hymn-based song called 'The Rock' I believe. Part of it goes 'The rock of faith is Jesus'. Carla Worley did this one at the Crystal Cathedral, and I remember that Fred and Mark liked it -- and so did I. I couldn't find that particular number on the internet, but here is another one with Karla Worley. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl6SbQ9mEcs&feature=related
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    Could an Uncorrupted Monarchical Model of Church and State Leadership be Properly and Safely Combined with a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System -- with the King and Queen mostly serving as Ambassadors rather than Dictators? Can the British and American Models of Church and State be Properly and Safely Combined? What about the Papacy? Think about it. I haven't been a big fan of the Monarchical Episcopate and the Divine Right of Kings -- yet I continue to be attracted to a proper combining of the Royal Model with the Servant Model of Leadership and Authority. In the last couple of posts, I have briefly looked at some of the commonalities of France, England, Canada, and the United States. Yet, a Roman undercurrent is ever-present. But really, it seems that EVERYTHING goes back to Ancient Babylon, Egypt, and possibly Sirius. We really do have to deal with all of the esoteric and ancient stuff.

    Tangentially, regarding what's really going on in this neck of the woods, I don't doubt that there are a lot of hidden interesting and intelligently guided objects in our solar system. I'm thinking that the entire solar system is teeming with intelligent or semi-intelligent activity. Unfortunately, I suspect that a lot of this activity is evil, and non-friendly toward humanity as we know it. Objects could be hidden behind the Moon, the Sun, or various planets. Moons and asteroids could be intelligently guided spaceships. I'm trying to prepare myself for just about anything. While I try to remain open to anything and everything, I will always try to peer behind the curtain, to directly view the man (or woman) who is controlling the show. There can be a variety of spectacular events and individuals, but what is their true source, and what hidden agendas might exist? I really do want this solar system reformed with all deliberate speed. Enjoy the show, but keep asking questions...

    Finally, perhaps we need a better system of evaluating individuals in positions of responsibility and power, which would uncover that which is hidden and potentially destructive to society. I keep hearing about cloning, soul-scalping, perfect-possession, soul-transference, hybridization, chip-implantation, mind-manipulation, etc, etc. But obviously I can't conclusively confirm or deny that this sort of thing is happening. I continue to like the idea of having people get PhD's in Solar System Studies and Governance, and submit to extensive evaluation and testing, before being handed the keys to the kingdom, in any way, shape, or form...
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:18 pm

    Don't be frightened. We mean no harm. We simply wish to reiterate that the questions, comments, speculations, and role-playing contained within this thread are not based upon insider information, channeling, regression hypnosis, exhaustive academic research, etc. We do NOT get fed information by research groups or mysterious entities. There is a vicious rumor circulating through cyber-space and the nether-realms -- that We were corrupted by Amen Ra. The people have a right to know whether or not orthodoxymoron has been corrupted by Ra. We want to make this perfectly clear -- We were NOT corrupted by Ra. Quite the opposite. WE corrupted Ra -- and with relative ease. Now, if you'll excuse us, We shall re-watch the 'Hathor' and 'The Powers That Be' episodes of 'Stargate SG-1'. Then We shall watch the 'Hungry Earth' and 'Cold Blood' episodes of 'Dr. Who'. Solar System Without End. We are of peace. Always.
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    I continue to find my reflective path to be somewhat debilitating. I don't recommend this sort of thing for everyone, and I remain conflicted about 'waking people up'. I certainly don't wish to run around like a chicken with my head cut off, or to encourage others to do so. There is too much information out there to really be dogmatic about much of anything, yet I will continue to passively promote a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System. I'd really like to see this solar system get past war, if nothing else. I will continue to attempt neutrality in the context of a somewhat humorous science-fictional approach. I realize that all of this is very, very serious -- but I refuse to take myself, or anyone else, too seriously.

    I'm watching 'The Vampires of Venice' from the Fifth Series of 'Dr. Who'. Consider Dr. Who's identification papers. He is recognized in 1580 Venice as being 'Your Holiness'! Now why would Dr. Who be 'Your Holiness'? Think about what I've said about this previously. I don't wish to be more specific. Watch and listen carefully. When Amy is being introduced to the Calviaris, she has references from the King of Sweden. Now why would Dr. Who have a Swedish connection -- in British Sci-Fi??? What would King Ring say??? Don't mind me! I'm just slightly off the center of the wheel! What?? You don't get it? Perhaps it's because you're unbalanced too! Is there a possible representation of the Queen of Heaven and God of This World in this episode? I don't know, but I just can't stop thinking about that general theme. You really do need to purchase the entire Fifth Series of Dr. Who on DVD! 'Hungry Earth' and 'Cold Blood' are included! I knew someone who liked the taste of blood. You don't suppose...

    Elsewhere in the Mists, there are some strangely blurred photos of the Moon. If the Moon is really an orbiting spaceship, is there a possibility that it was undergoing a propulsion test, prior to leaving the solar system? My preference would be for the really bad guys and gals to either be incarcerated or to simply leave the solar system, but it might be beneficial for most (or all) of the hardware to remain in the solar system, including spacecraft, subsurface bases, moons, planets, asteroids (especially ufo/asteroids), high technology -- and perhaps some genuinely reformed bad guys and gals -- to help us deal with a cold, cruel, and complex universe...

    OK! Now I'm going to calm down and listen to another exciting episode of Sherry Shriner! That'll help me get my head together!

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    Sanicle wrote:Thought you might be interested in the 'Georgia Guidestones' Oxy, although you probably know about them already. Here's a transcript from the website (link below).

    (They are) A massive granite monument espousing the conservation of mankind and future generations. Sources for the sizable financing of the project choose to remain anonymous. The wording of the message proclaimed on the monument is in 12 languages, including the archaic languages of Sanskrit, Babylonian Cuneiform, Egyptian Hieroglyphics and Classical Greek, as well as English, Russian, Hebrew, Arabic, Hindi, Chinese, Spanish, and Swahili.

    The guides, followed by explanatory precepts, are as follows, the words are exactly as the Sponsors provided them:

    (webmaster's note: the appended text below in blue is NOT carved on the stones. The blue text is from the book by RC Christian deposited in a library in Georgia.

    1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. Means the entire human race at its climax level for permanent balance with nature.


    2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity. Without going into details as yet undiscovered, this means humanity should apply reason and knowledge to guiding its own reproduction. "Fitness" could be translated as "health." "Diversity" could be translated as "variety".


    3. Unite humanity with a living new language. A "living" language grows and changes with advancing knowledge. A "new" language will be developed "de novo" - and need not necessarily be adopted from any languages now in existence.


    4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason. "Faith" here may be used in a religious sense. Too often people are ruled by blind faith even when it may be contrary to reason. Reason must be tempered with compassion here - but must prevail.


    5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
    Courts must consider justice as well as law.


    6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court. Individual nations must be free to develop their own destinies at home as their own people wish - but cannot abuse their neighbors.


    7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials. Self explanatory.


    8. Balance personal rights with social duties. Individuals have a natural concern for their personal welfare, but man is a social animal and must also be concerned for the group. Failure of society means failure for its individual citizens.


    9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite. The infinite here means the supreme being - whose will is manifest in the working of the cosmos - if we will seek for it.


    10. Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature. In our time, the growth of humanity is destroying the natural conditions of the earth which have fostered all existing life. We must restore reasoned balance.

    http://thegeorgiaguidestones.com/index2.htm
    The biggest problem I have with the Georgia Guidestones is the 500,000,000 population figure -- and the presumed extermination which would be required to 'achieve' this figure. I'm anti-genocide and I'm extermination-phobic. However, I do support Responsible Reproduction. The following reflects my current "guidestone views":

    We the People of Earth desire the following Church Reforms: To replace Canon Law with the Teachings of Jesus. To institute a Modified Latin Mass (with no communion - emphasizing the remembrance of Christ and His Teachings - rather than His Sacrifice) - offering Masses seven days a week - with no preference regarding the day or days of attendance. To base All Homilies, Theology, and Ritual Upon the Teachings of Jesus. To eliminate Penance and Confession (replacing both with psychological and spiritual counseling). To allow Women to be Priests and Popes. To allow Priests to Marry and Popes to Marry (and to eliminate all blasphemous titles). To eliminate Most Crucifixes (The bloody, dying, and mostly naked Jesus should not be paraded and displayed. To remove most and clothe most of the rest. Obviously, stained-glass windows, and such, should mostly be left alone). To be Completely Honest Regarding the History of the Church, the World, the Solar System, the Galaxy, and the Universe. To institute a Program of Responsible Reproduction (lifting the ban on birth-control). To base Civil and Church Governance on the U.S. Constitution.

    We the People of Earth desire the following Solar System Reforms: TO BASE THIS SOLAR SYSTEM UPON RESPONSIBILITY AND THE U.S. CONSTITUTION. TO MAINTAIN AN EARTH HUMAN POPULATION OF FOUR BILLION (TWO BILLION SURFACE - TWO BILLION SUBSURFACE) AND FOUR BILLION THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM (MOSTLY SUBSURFACE). TO BASE PHYSICAL, MENTAL, AND SPIRITUAL HEALTH UPON PREVENTION. TO MAINTAIN A PRISTINE ENVIRONMENT. TO USE ELECTRICAL POWER FOR NEARLY EVERYTHING, AND UTILIZE MAGNETO-LEVITON TRAINS FOR MOST GLOBAL TRANSPORTATION.

    The subsurface living would not need to be deep subsurface living, and people could come to the surface any time they desired. This concept would eliminate the worst existing surface buildings, and keep the best. The existing roads and bridges would mostly be retained. There would be some deep underground living and provisions for the defense and survival of the human race in extreme circumstances. The human race needs to face the harsh reality of how precarious our situation really is. We really do seem to be on the universal endangered species list -- and possibly on the universal fecal list...
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    Except for the population issue, I don't really have a problem with the Georgia Guidestones -- but I don't think they really get at the core governmental issues -- which would be necessary to achieve that which the author(s) of the Guidestones seem to desire. I'm sort of thinking of myself as the token kinder and gentler member of the Illuminati...

    Somewhat unrelatedly -- At what point does wealth become anti-competitive? I'm not a socialist, communist, or an unbridled-capitalist. I support Constructive Competition and Responsible Free Enterprise. Should there be a wealth-ceiling? Should people have to become philanthropists, once they achieve a certain income-level and/or net-worth? I support the freedom of people to support political candidates -- but how do we keep the political process from continuing to be more corrupt than hell itself? Should the societal safety-net mostly consist of low-interest loans and work programs, rather than handouts?

    It really is all about BALANCE, isn't it? Unfortunately, I continue to be somewhat unbalanced...

    A rich person can contribute to a political campaign -- with strings attached -- such that their man in Washington passes legislation which makes said person filthy rich. If an honest politician bucks the system, and starts exposing all of the evil and corruption, they suddenly have a scandal or a nasty accident -- or the press burns them at the stake. I still like the idea of politicians being required to obtain PhD degrees in governance, to qualify them to govern intelligently. Unfortunately, this wouldn't eliminate corruption. Better methods for uncovering corruption, and severe penalties for corruption, should probably be pursued with all deliberate speed -- without starting another McCarthy Witch-Hunt. A key problem is that you can take a good guy or gal in one context, and place them in another context where they quickly become an evil guy or gal. So many individuals go to Washington with high hopes of cleaning things up -- yet they quickly become absorbed by the system, and become just as incompetent and corrupt as the rest of them...

    Somehow there needs to be an advanced level of character development. Varying the available resources might not help. Establishing a system of rewards and punishments based upon Responsibility might be a start. I like the concept of Positive Reinforcement. I like Positive Response Ability. I like Rewarding Responsibility.

    "The greatest want of the world is the want of men—men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall."
    —E. G. White, Education, p. 57 (some say this sentence is not original)

    How many politicians have earned doctorates? I only found one U.S. politician with a doctorate having anything to do with politics or governance. How would you like to have a psychologist perform brain surgery on you?? "Ooops!! There went the piano lessons!! No neurosurgeon left behind!!" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Politicians_with_Doctorates Here's one of the few politicians with a doctorate...

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    How many world leaders have doctorates in politics or governance? I don't know, but here's a list of the heads of state recognized by the United Nations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_heads_of_state_and_government I'll have to do some research on each name. Check this out!!! http://www.congovision.com/nouvelles2/lono_kasina1.html

    EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT OF WORLD HEADS OF STATE
    By Lono Kasina

    Nowadays, good governance seems to become the magic word for the assessment of poor or sub-developed countries. But, unfortunately, very few tried to question the intellectual in-puts made by their leaders so that they could be evaluated, according to their knowledge. Even if leadership and governance skills could, perhaps the expectations are very high as, with globalization, the influx of knowledge needs to be managed by leaders, in this instance, the heads of state with some pre-requisites. Lono Kasina, a native from the Democratic republic of Congo, has questioned this matter in a 22 years piece of research to be updated and soon published, titled: “the Educational Attainment of World Heads of State” But, just to sum-it up, Lono Kasina found that, according to statistics, there is a very strong relationship between “bad management and the school level of the heads of states”. The less they are educated or not attended colleges at all, the more they become dictators and bad managers of their countries. Surprisingly, the level of education reached by most heads of states is comparable to that of a High School student. As a result of these shocking findings, Lono Kasina has issued a pioneering recommendation that “a single educational institution” such as a World Academy of the Presidency, be created for all the heads of states to study together as a group. (International Relations St. Mary's University, San Antonio Texas, USA, 2007). A look at research Summary.

    SUMMARY

    IT IS COMMONLY SAID THAT MANY presidents or heads of state lack a higher education. There are not enough empirical studies in this area, however, to support or to deny this claim. What follows, an analysis of the current level of “educational attainment of world heads of state”, expands upon this theme. The report presents statistical estimates of the educational achievements of 152 heads of state based on the Year 1987. An attempt has been made to determine an individual highest year of education reached by each subject and the annual median years of educational attainment by all the heads of state is uncovered. A possible interpretation of the findings is also given.

    Purpose

    The aim of this study is to enable the measurement of, and to familiarize the reader with the educational background of the world's top ruling elite. An effort is also underway to determine the median years of educational attainment of all former heads of state since 1940. The median years of educational attainment of new heads of state will be added in order to develop an accumulated educational measurement standard for years to come. This effort, however, is not part of the present study.

    Limitations

    This study is limited to an analysis of the educational attainment of heads of state only. It does not cover prime ministers, foreign ministers, or other leaders associated with foreign relations. Heads of state include Presidents and Kings or Queens who preside over sovereign states. Governors-general and Prefects of British and French territories are excluded since they do not hold sovereign rule over those states.

    The study is also limited to analysis of "regular" schooling only, that is, formal education obtained through public or private schools. Other special trainings and military instructions which the heads of state may have undertaken or any honorary degrees they may have been awarded are not accounted for in the current study.

    EDUCATIONAL MEASUREMENT

    Educational Data

    The data on years of school completed were derived from biographical' estimates of heads of state's formal education. Data were based on the level of regular schooling attained. Using the United States Census Bureau format measuring educational attainment, the focus was put on schooling that might have advanced a head of state toward an elementary school certificate, a high-school diploma, a college, or a university degree.

    Educational Level Groups

    Educational data are divided into four groups; representing the four levels of measurement (see Table 1). The first group covers one through twelve years and represents the elementary to high school level of education (or primary and secondary schools in other systems). The second group, thirteen through sixteen years, represents the college level of educational attainment. The third group covers seventeen through eighteen years of education, which is a graduate or Master's level. The fourth group extends from nineteen and plus years of education, which represents a doctorate or post doctorate level of education. Data on each head of state's educational level group can be found in the Appendix.

    TABLE: EDUCATIONAL LEVEL GROUPS

    Group Span of Years Educational Level

    1 1-12 Elementary/High School
    2 13-16 College
    3 17-18 Graduate
    4 19-Plus Doctorate

    Annual Median

    The annual median of years is a critical data in this analysis. It helps establish a threshold on the middle number of education accomplished by all in the sample. The median, which is a type of average, is the middle value in a distribution, i.e., the median divides the distribution into two equal parts. In the case of this analysis, one-half of the heads of state's educational level fell below the median and the other-half exceeded the median.

    Findings

    The analysis of data revealed that nearly half of the heads of state have a median years' educational attainment of slightly below or slightly above twelve (12.2). Among the 152 heads of state in the sample, it was found that 71, or 46.7 percent, have an elementary to high-school level of education; 40, or 26.3 percent, have a college level of education; 13, or 8.5 percent, have a graduate (Master's) level of education; and 28, or 18.4 percent, have a doctorate degree.

    CONCLUSION AND RECOMMENDATION

    It is rather sad to discover just how low the educational level of the heads of state really is. While many people still may question the extent to which the world's top ruling elite is educated, this study has clearly provided an approximate empirical answer to that question. It is now demonstrated that the majority of the world's presidents are truly lacking a higher education. The question which now arises is what can be done about it? The recommendation which the investigator has in mind is that a single educational institution (an academy or a university) be created to educate the heads of state of all the countries of the world.


    PS. A full copy of this research will be soon published in yet an announced source. However, intelligent comments can be forwarded lkasina@hotmail.com

    Lono J. Kasina
    PhD. Candidate
    International Political Economy
    USA.

    ©️ Congo Vision

    ONE MORE TIME -- PLEASE CONSIDER A UNIVERSITY OF SOLAR SYSTEM STUDIES AND GOVERNANCE -- IN LIGHT OF ALL OF THE ABOVE. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2881-the-university-of-solar-system-studies-and-governance

    Consider the Holy Roman Empire. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0tLOQUq7T4 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire

    "The Holy Roman Empire was neither holy nor Roman nor an empire." - Voltaire


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    Consider Charlemagne. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne Can we trace a sort of apostolic succession from Charlemagne to Hitler? All of this scares and sickens me so much, that I have a difficult time studying the bloody and senseless history of the world. It tends to make me abandon all hope for a big, bright, beautiful tomorrow. It makes me want to go back to church and believe the lies -- just to have a single day of peace. I really do want a Brave New Solar System -- but I want it built upon truth, rather than lies. I wish to be a Peaceful Warrior -- as a devoted student of Sun Tsu and Jesus Christ. If we can't handle the truth -- we'll just have to build more mental institutions. Call this 'tough love' if you wish.

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    They say that 'the show must go on' -- but considering war after war after war - century after century after century - for thousands of years -- why must the show go on??? Consider the butchery of the past hundred years. Consider the potential for the extermination of all life in this solar system. Consider the senseless warfare of the past ten years. Consider the lack of interest in Solar System Governance. What the hell is going on??? I really wished to be of service, but all the king's horses and all the king's men don't seem to need me to help them put Humpty Dumpty back together again. Perhaps I really should just hold the coats, watch the fur fly - and help clean-up the mess after all the other options are exhausted...

    Everything is rigged -- from politics to religion to stocks to war to economics to earthchanges to space-threats to you name it. It's all a big, nasty game -- in my current cynical view of things. I think we humans need to play games. We need challenges. But really, it's the cruel and cynical nature of all of this which really bothers me. In a sense, I wouldn't necessarily want the solar system to be too sanitized -- but I certainly want it cleaned-up. I even think Las Vegas could be a really cool place - complete with shows, games, and scantily-clad people -- but I hate it the way it is right now. Our greed, fear, emotions, shallowness, confusion, corruptibility, and short memories -- are used against us in some rather cruel and sinister ways -- I suspect.

    sabina wrote:maybe it is better to go to the negative department they are4 stronger here on the earth plane.
    I never wanted to go to the negative side but i see more and more they are more sttronger
    every day i see this
    i wanted to help always but i got f...... always
    iam like you I wanted to help.......with all my knowledge but I got f....
    I understand now ......
    but still I am struggeling not to go to the nhegative department

    maybe Iam wrong still I want to be on the positve side but it is not so e3asy and it is going worse ........
    tears ar3e runnig i d
    [strike]
    I think we are in big trouble, sabina. The good guys and gals don't seem to be running the show in this solar system. But I think an awakening is occurring, and I think the tide will turn in the right direction. But right now, it's an uphill battle, which might not get any easier anytime soon. Here is an example of how bad things are. Trans-Humanism and Genetic-Manipulation are discussed by Tom Horn & Steve Quayle. This made my hair stand on-end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvyNMprSr3g&feature=related Hang in there sabina. We shall overcome, but the cost might be a lot higher than we think. I refuse to say that everything is fine, when it's not. Thank-you sabina. I'm a somewhat irreverent and heretical Christian. I'm presently focusing upon Christocentric Egyptology, with a special emphasis on the Archangelic and Pharaonic Nature of Christ. I'm just starting to fight! I'm trying to emulate the cat shown below...
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    sabina wrote:thanks alot my friend you help me much , I know you know .......
    times are I love you geting stronger we know.....
    again thanks you helped me alot much love
    sabina I love you I love you I love you I love you I love you
    Taking the easy way isn't an easy way. The secrecy is being removed from the evil, and a lot of people are probably going to go insane, but most people will keep it together and do the right thing. Most of us have been dumbed-down and kept in the dark to 'protect us', or for 'national security' -- but the whole world needs to know the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth -- no matter how miserable it makes us. We need to know what we're fighting. This is a cool song by 'The 2nd Chapter of Acts'. Some of the verses are taken from Proverbs 17:28, Matthew 11:28/30, and Matthew 28:18/20. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYty8FhaLXk&feature=autoplay&list=AVGxdCwVVULXfSORpSSOyuJVnKIxRP_AqJ&index=9&playnext=8

    All of my life they said be quiet
    Be quiet for crying out loud
    Taking the easy way isn't an easy way
    Even a fool when he is silent
    People will think he's wise
    Taking the easy way isn't an easy way
    In your footprints this is what I read
    Tell the children
    Tell them what I said
    Tell all nations
    Tell them I'm not dead
    My yoke is easy and my burden is light
    My yoke is easy and my burden is light
    I might be taken by my sadness and still be filled with joy
    Taking the easy way isn't an easy way
    I have taken to sing my silent song
    Taking the easy way isn't an easy way
    My hearts bursting, bursting with your Word
    I will tell them, tell them what I've heard
    Some though brokenhearted will be cured
    For there is healing, healing in Your wings
    Yes, there is healing, healing in Your wings
    So I take you into my weakness
    I'm weak but You are strong
    Taking the easy way isn't an easy way
    Learning of You has made me give up
    Give up all that I am
    Taking the easy way isn't an easy way
    Transformation in every word
    Relocation, hell to heavenward
    Education says that You're absurd
    Taking the narrow road isn't an easy way
    Taking the narrow road isn't an easy way
    Taking the easy way isn't an easy way

    I'm not doing real well in the 'real world' but I'll keep trying to do better. I keep feeling as though I'm getting beaten to a pulp in a very real spiritual war. I keep feeling as though neither the 'good guys' or the 'bad guys' like me. The 'good guys' might not be as good as they think they are, and the 'bad guys' know me very well. We go way back. We've been going 'round and 'round for aeons. I think there are very real gods and goddesses behind theology, astrology, and mythology, but I obviously don't know the details, and I might not really want to know the truth about all of this. I also think there is a BIG-G God, but God does not seem to be particularly active in the affairs of human beings presently. Why? I wish I knew...

    Consider watching these two videos as a pair. 1. Ring of Power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w-A54h_GQ8&feature=related 2. Trans-Humanism and Genetic-Manipulation are discussed by Tom Horn & Steve Quayle. This made my hair stand on-end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvyNMprSr3g&feature=related The second one is a bit preachy, but it's quite different than what one might hear in most churches. Just combine these two links, and see what you think. This is still hard for me to listen to and watch. I still like to believe the best about people. This world is more corrupt than hell, and that's pretty damn corrupt. I don't necessarily endorse the information presented in these videos, but I think they should be carefully examined, point by point. Exposure and Resistance is Victory and Reformation.

    Is my attempted neutrality and open-mindedness a mistake? I try to just keep watching, listening, and asking questions. Is this a mistake? Should I be dogmatic and fight? I can do that. I really can. I once caused an individual to tremble by speaking of a particular book and the bottomless pit. But I was polite and neutral in my dealings with them. Was this a mistake? I consider a wide variety of perspectives, yet I'm not an intellectual or an authority. I'm too disillusioned and burned out! I really am. Every day is a very unpleasant struggle, and that's the honest truth. I keep trying to imagine being some sort of a solar system administrator, who has access, who does not micromanage, but attends meetings, reads files, interviews individuals, reads books, watches documentaries, asks questions, and writes reports (which are taken seriously). My present goal is to understand, rather than to condemn. I'm choosing to fight internally, rather than externally. But really, this could change, without prior notice.

    I continue to think that keeping all of this speculative and creepy stuff within the realm of science fiction is wise, because it's really hard to prove and pin-down a lot of the information, even though the circumstantial evidence is often quite compelling. Some of the subjects are so horrific and upsetting, that the science fiction modality provides a safe-haven or a buffer for us. Just taking everything in, without taking anything too seriously, is probably a beneficial approach. Just treat all of this as an entertaining puzzle. Pretend that you are a science fiction actor or actress, and that you are preparing to star in a series or a movie. 90% of what we get exposed to might be completely false, so be prepared to change your mind on a daily basis. I'm going to keep pressing forward with the principles and concepts contained within this thread, just to model the idea, to see how it holds up over a period of years. Someone might learn something from this experiment. This is a test. This is only a test. But really, it wouldn't surprise me to see a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System fully operational by the year 2020. Time will tell. We'll see. It's not how we look. It's how we see...

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:48 pm

    If you really want to have smoke pour out of your ears, consider reading the entire text of 'The Quest of the Historical Jesus' by Dr. Albert Schweitzer. http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/schweitzer/ But really, the first and last chapters should be required reading for those who are serious about theology and philosophy, regardless of their biases and convictions. As I have stated previously, someone got into my computer, and made certain portions of the Schweitzer text appear in Bold Print. But not as shown below. This was really strange. I like Albert Schweitzer, and I like his organ teacher, Charles Marie Widor. St. Sulpice in Paris (where Schweitzer was instructed by Widor), is sort of a Personal Mecca for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYBTg3CV3DQ&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL2A63EBD15866B4D7

    THE PROBLEM: WHEN, AT SOME FUTURE DAY, OUR PERIOD OF CIVILISATION SHALL LIE, closed and completed, before the eyes of later generations, German theology will stand out as a great, a unique phenomenon in the mental and spiritual life of our time. For nowhere save in the German temperament can there be found in the same perfection the living complex of conditions and factors — of philosophic thought, critical acumen, historical insight, and religious feeling — without which no deep theology is possible.

    And the greatest achievement of German theology is the critical investigation of the life of Jesus. What it has accomplished here has laid down the conditions and determined the course of the religious thinking of the future.

    In the history of doctrine its work has been negative; it has, so to speak, cleared the site for a new edifice of religious thought. In describing how the ideas of Jesus were taken possession of by the Greek spirit, it was tracing the growth of that which must necessarily become strange to us, and, as a matter of fact, has become strange to us.

    Of its efforts to create a new dogmatic we scarcely need to have the history written; it is alive within us. It is no doubt interesting to trace how modern thoughts have found their way into the ancient dogmatic system, there to combine with eternal ideas to form new constructions; it is interesting to penetrate into the mind of the thinker in which this process is at work; but the real truth of that which here meets us as history we experience within ourselves. As in the monad of Leibnitz the whole universe is reflected, so we intuitively experience within us, even apart from any clear historical knowledge, the successive stages of the progress of modern dogma, from rationalism to Ritschl. This experience is true knowledge, all the truer because we are conscious of the whole as something indefinite, a slow and difficult movement towards a goal which is still shrouded in obscurity. We have not yet arrived at any reconciliation between history and modern thought — only between half-way history and half-way thought. What the ultimate goal towards which we are moving will be, what this something is which shall bring new life and new regulative principles to coming centuries, we do not know. We can only dimly divine that it will be the mighty deed of some mighty original genius, whose truth and rightness will be proved by the fact that we, working at our poor half thing, will oppose him might and main — we who imagine we long for nothing more eagerly than a genius powerful enough to open up with authority a new path for the world, seeing that we cannot succeed in moving it forward along the track which we have so laboriously prepared.

    For this reason the history of the critical study of the life of Jesus is of higher intrinsic value than the history of the study of ancient dogma or of the attempts to create a new one. It has to describe the most tremendous thing which the religious consciousness has ever dared and done. In the study of the history of dogma German theology settled its account with the past; in its attempt to create a new dogmatic, it was endeavouring to keep a place for the religious life in the thought of the present; in the study of the life of Jesus it was working for the future — in pure faith in the truth, not seeing whereunto it wrought.

    Moreover, we are here dealing with the most vital thing in the world's history. There came a Man to rule over the world; He ruled it for good and for ill, as history testifies; He destroyed the world into which He was born; the spiritual life of our own time seems like to perish at His hands, for He leads to battle against our thought a host of dead ideas, a ghostly army upon which death has no power, and Himself destroys again the truth and goodness which His Spirit creates in us, so that it cannot rule the world. That He continues, notwithstanding, to reign as the alone Great and alone True in a world of which He denied the continuance, is the prime example of that antithesis between spiritual and natural truth which underlies all life and all events, and in Him emerges into the field of history.

    It is only at first sight that the absolute indifference of early Christianity towards the life of the historical Jesus is disconcerting. When Paul, representing those who recognise the signs of the times, did not desire to know Christ after the flesh, that was the first expression of the impulse of self-preservation by which Christianity continued to be guided for centuries. It felt that with the introduction of the historic Jesus into its faith, there would arise something new, something which had not been foreseen in the thoughts of the Master Himself, and that thereby a contradiction would be brought to light, the solution of which would constitute one of the great problems of the world.

    Primitive Christianity was therefore right to live wholly in the future with the Christ who was to come, and to preserve of the historic Jesus only detached sayings, a few miracles, His death and resurrection. By abolishing both the world and the historical Jesus it escaped the inner division described above, and remained consistent in its point of view. We, on our part, have reason to be grateful to the early Christians that, in consequence of this attitude they have handed down to us, not biographies of Jesus but only Gospels, and that therefore we possess the Idea and the Person with the minimum of historical and contemporary limitations.

    But the world continued to exist, and its continuance brought this one-sided view to an end. The supra-mundane Christ and the historical Jesus of Nazareth had to be brought together into a single personality at once historical and raised above time. That was accomplished by Gnosticism and the Logos Christology. Both, from opposite standpoints, because they were seeking the same goal, agreed in sublimating the his- torical Jesus into the supra-mundane Idea. The result of this development, which followed on the discrediting of eschatology, was that the historical Jesus was again introduced into the field of view of Christianity, but in such a way that all justification for, and interest in, the investigation of His life and historical personality were done away with.

    Greek theology was as indifferent in regard to the historical Jesus who lives concealed in the Gospels as was the early eschatological theology. More than that, it was dangerous to Him; for it created a new supernatural-historical Gospel, and we may consider it fortunate that the Synoptics were already so firmly established that the Fourth Gospel could not oust them; instead, the Church, as though from the inner necessity of the antitheses which now began to be a constructive element in her thought, was obliged to set up two antithetic Gospels alongside of one another.

    When at Chalcedon the West overcame the East, its doctrine of the two natures dissolved the unity of the Person, and thereby cut off the last possibility of a return to the historical Jesus. The self-contradiction was elevated into a law. But the Manhood was so far admitted as to preserve, in appearance, the rights of history. Thus by a deception the formula kept the life prisoner and prevented the leading spirits of the Reformation from grasping the idea of a return to the historical Jesus.

    This dogma had first to be shattered before men could once more go out in quest of the historical Jesus, before they could even grasp the thought of His existence. That the historic Jesus is something different from the Jesus Christ of the doctrine of the Two Natures seems to us now self-evident. We can, at the present day, scarcely imagine the long agony in which the historical view of the life of Jesus came to birth. And even when He was once more recalled to life. He was still, like Lazarus of old, bound hand and foot with grave-clothes — the grave-clothes of the dogma of the Dual Nature. Hase relates, in the preface to his first Life of Jesus (1829), that a worthy old gentleman, hearing of his project, advised him to treat in the first part of the human, in the second of the divine Nature. There was a fine simplicity about that. But does not the simplicity cover a presentiment of the revolution of thought for which the historical method of study was preparing the way — a presentiment which those who were engaged in the work did not share in the same measure? It was fortunate that they did not; for otherwise how could they have had the courage to go on?

    The historical investigation of the life of Jesus did not take its rise from a purely historical interest; it turned to the Jesus of history as an ally in the struggle against the tyranny of dogma. Afterwards when it was freed from this paqoV it sought to present the historic Jesus in a form intelligible to its own time. For Bahrdt and Venturini He was the tool of a secret order. They wrote under the impression of the immense influence exercised by the Order of the Illuminati[1] at the end of the eighteenth century. For Reinhard, Hess, Paulus, and the rest of the rationalistic writers He is the admirable revealer of true virtue, which is coincident with right reason. Thus each successive epoch of theology found its own thoughts in Jesus; that was, indeed, the only way in which it could make Him live.

    But it was not only each epoch that found its reflection in Jesus; each individual created Him in accordance with his own character. There is no historical task which so reveals a man's true self as the writing of a Life of Jesus. No vital force comes into the figure unless a man breathes into it all the hate or all the love of which he is capable. The stronger the love, or the stronger the hate, the more life-like is the figure which is produced. For hate as well as love can write a Life of Jesus, and the greatest of them are written with hate: that of Reimarus, the Wolfenbiittel Fragmentist, and that of David Friedrich Strauss. It was not so much hate of the Person of Jesus as of the supernatural nimbus with which it was so easy to surround Him, and with which He had in fact been surrounded. They were eager to picture Him as truly and purely human, to strip from Him the robes of splendour with which He had been apparelled, and clothe Him once more with the coarse garments in which He had walked in Galilee.

    And their hate sharpened their historical insight. They advanced the study of the subject more than all the others put together. But for the offence which they gave, the science of historical theology would not have stood where it does to-day. "It must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh." Reimarus evaded that woe by keeping the offence to himself and preserving silence during his lifetime — his work, "The Aims of Jesus and His Disciples," was only published after his death, by Lessing. But in the case of Strauss, who, as a young man of twenty-seven, cast the offence openly in the face of the world, the woe fulfilled itself. His "Life of Jesus" was his ruin. But he did not cease to be proud of it in spite of all the misfortune that it brought him. "I might well bear a grudge against my book," he writes twenty-five years later in the preface to the "Conversations of Ulrich von Hutten," [1] "for it has done me much evil ('And rightly so!' the pious will exclaim). It has excluded me from public teaching in which I took pleasure and for which I had perhaps some talent; it has torn me from natural relationships and driven me into unnatural ones; it has made my life a lonely one. And yet when I consider what it would have meant if I had refused to utter the word which lay upon my soul, if I had suppressed the doubts which were at work in my mind — then I bless the book which has doubtless done me grievous harm outwardly, but which preserved the inward health of my mind and heart, and, I doubt not, has done the same for many others also."

    Before him, Bahrdt had his career broken in consequence of revealing his beliefs concerning the Life of Jesus; and after him, Bruno Bauer.

    It was easy for them, resolved as they were to open the way even with seeming blasphemy. But the others, those who tried to bring Jesus to life at the call of love, found it a cruel task to be honest. The critical study of the life of Jesus has been for theology a school of honesty. The world had never seen before, and will never see again, a struggle for truth so full of pain and renunciation as that of which the Lives of Jesus of the last hundred years contain the cryptic record. One must lead the successive Lives of Jesus with which Hase followed the course of the study from the 'twenties to the 'seventies of the nineteenth century to get an inkling of what it must have cost the men who lived through that decisive period really to maintain that "courageous freedom of investigation" which the great Jena professor, in the preface to his first Life of Jesus, claims for his researches. One sees in him the marks of the struggle with which he gives up, bit by bit, things which, when he wrote that preface, he never dreamed he would have to surrender. It was fortunate for these men that their sympathies sometimes obscured their critical vision, so that, without becoming insincere, they were able to take white clouds for distant mountains. That was the kindly fate of Hase and Beyschlag. The personal character of the study is not only due, however, to the fact that a personality can only be awakened to life by the touch of a personality; it lies in the essential nature of the problem itself. For the problem of the life of Jesus has no analogue in the field of history. No historical school has ever laid down canons for the investigation of this problem, no professional historian has ever lent his aid to theology in dealing with it. Every ordinary method of historical investigation proves inadequate to the complexity of the conditions. The standards of ordinary historical science are here inadequate, its methods not immediately applicable. The historical study of the life of Jesus has had to create its own methods for itself. In the constant succession of unsuccessful attempts, five or six problems have emerged side by side which together constitute the fundamental problem. There is, however, no direct method of solving the problem in its complexity; all that can be done is to experiment continuously, starting from definite assumptions; and in this experimentation the guiding principle must ultimately rest upon historical intuition.

    The cause of this lies in the nature of the sources of the life of Jesus, and in the character of our knowledge of the contemporary religious world of thought. It is not that the sources are in themselves bad. When we have once made up our minds that we have not the materials for a complete Life of Jesus, but only for a picture of His public ministry, it must be admitted that there are few characters of antiquity about whom we possess so much indubitably historical information, of whom we have so many authentic, discourses. The position is much more favourable, for instance, than in the case of Socrates; for he is pictured to us by literary men who exercised their creative ability upon the portrait. Jesus stands much more immediately before us, because He was depicted by simple Christians without literary gift.

    But at this point there arises a twofold difficulty. There is first the fact that what has just been said applies only to the first three Gospels, while the fourth, as regards its character, historical data, and discourse material, forms a world of its own. It is written from the Greek standpoint, while the first three are written from the Jewish. And even if one could get over this, and regard, as has often been done, the Synoptics and the Fourth Gospel as standing in something of the same relation to one another as Xenophon does to Plato as sources for the life of Socrates, yet the complete irreconcilability of the historical data would compel the critical investigator to decide from the first in favour of one source or the other. Once more it is found true that "No man can serve two masters." This stringent dilemma was not recognised from the beginning; its emergence is one of the results of the whole course of experiment.

    The second difficulty regarding the sources is the want of any thread of connexion in the material which they offer us. While the Synoptics are only collections of anecdotes (in the best, historical sense of the word), the Gospel of John — as stands on record in its closing words — only professes to give a selection of the events and discourses.

    From these materials we can only get a Life of Jesus with yawning gaps. How are these gaps to be filled? At the worst with phrases, at the best with historical imagination. There is really no other means of arriving at the order and inner connexion of the facts of the life of Jesus than the making and testing of hypotheses. If the tradition preserved by the Synoptists really includes all that happened during the time that Jesus was with his disciples, the attempt to discover the connexion must succeed sooner or later. It becomes more and more clear that this presupposition is indispensable to the investigation. If it is merely a fortuitous series of episodes that the Evangelists have handed down to us, we may give up the attempt to arrive at a critical reconstruction of the life of Jesus as hopeless.

    But it is not only the events which lack historical connexion, we are without any indication of a thread of connexion in the actions and discourses of Jesus, because the sources give no hint of the character of His self-consciousness. They confine themselves to outward facts. We only begin to understand these historically when we can mentally place them in an intelligible connexion and conceive them as the acts of a clearly defined personality. All that we know of the development of Jesus and of His Messianic self-consciousness has been arrived at by a series of working hypotheses. Our conclusions can only be considered valid so long as they are not found incompatible with the recorded facts as a whole.

    It may be maintained by the aid of arguments drawn from the sources that the self-consciousness of Jesus underwent a development during the course of His public ministry; it may, with equally good grounds, be denied. For in both cases the arguments are based upon little details in the narrative in regard to which we do not know whether they are purely accidental, or whether they belong to the essence of the facts. In each case, moreover, the experimental working out of the hypothesis leads to a conclusion which compels the rejection of some of the actual data of the sources. Each view equally involves a violent treatment of the text.

    Furthermore, the sources exhibit, each within itself, a striking contradiction. They assert that Jesus felt Himself to be the Messiah; and yet from their presentation of His life it does not appear that He ever publicly claimed to be so. They attribute to Him, that is, an attitude which has absolutely no connexion with the consciousness which they assume that He possessed. But once admit that the outward acts are not the natural expression of the self-consciousness and all exact historical knowledge is at an end; we have to do with an isolated fact which is not referable to any law.

    This being so, the only way of arriving at a conclusion of any value is to experiment, to test, by working them out, the two hypotheses — that Jesus felt Himself to be the Messiah, as the sources assert, or that He did not feel Himself to be so, as His conduct implies; or else to try to conjecture what kind of Messianic consciousness His must have been, if it left His conduct and His discourses unaffected. For one thing is certain; the whole account of the last days at Jerusalem would be unintelligible, if we had to suppose that the mass of the people had a shadow of a suspicion that Jesus held Himself to be the Messiah.

    Again, whereas in general a personality is to some extent defined by the world of thought which it shares with its contemporaries, in the case of Jesus this source of information is as unsatisfactory as the documents.

    What was the nature of the contemporary Jewish world of thought? To that question no clear answer can be given. We do not know whether the expectation of the Messiah was generally current or whether it was the faith of a mere sect. With the Mosaic religion as such it had nothing to do. There was no organic connexion between the religion of legal observance and the future hope. Further, if the eschatological hope was generally current, was it the prophetic or the apocalyptic form of that hope? We know the Messianic expectations of the prophets; we know the apocalyptic picture as drawn by Daniel, and, following him, by Enoch and the Psalms of Solomon before the coming of Jesus, and by the Apocalypses of Ezra and Baruch about the time of the destruction of Jerusalem. But we do not know which was the popular form; nor, supposing that both were combined into one picture, what this picture really looked like. We know only the form of eschatology which meets us in the Gospels and in the Pauline epistles; that is to say, the form which it took in the Christian community in consequence of the coming of Jesus. And to combine these three — the prophetic, the Late-Jewish apocalyptic, and the Christian — has not proved possible.

    Even supposing we could obtain more exact information regarding the popular Messianic expectations at the time of Jesus, we should still not know what form they assumed in the self-consciousness of One who knew Himself to be the Messiah but held that the time was not yet come for Him to reveal Himself as such. We only know their aspect from without, as a waiting for the Messiah and the Messianic Age; we have no clue to their aspect from within as factors in the Messianic self-consciousness. We possess no psychology of the Messiah. The Evangelists have nothing to tell us about it, because Jesus told them nothing about it; the sources for the contemporary spiritual life inform us only concerning the eschatological expectation. For the form of the Messianic self-consciousness of Jesus we have to fall back upon conjecture.

    Such is the character of the problem, and, as a consequence, historical experiment must here take the place of historical research. That being so, it is easy to understand that to take a survey of the study of the life of Jesus is to be confronted, at first sight, with a scene of the most boundless confusion. A series of experiments are repeated with constantly varying modifications suggested by the results furnished by the subsidiary sciences. Most of the writers, however, have no suspicion that they are merely repeating an experiment which has often been made before. Some of them discover this in the course of their work to their own great astonishment — it is so, for instance, with Wrede, who recognises that he is working out, though doubtless with a clearer consciousness of his aim, an idea of Bruno Bauer's.[1] If old Reimarus were to come back again, he might confidently give himself out to be the latest of the moderns, for his work rests upon a recognition of the exclusive importance of eschatology, such as only recurs again in Johannes Weiss.

    Progress, too, is curiously fitful, with long intervals of marking time between the advances. From Strauss down to the 'nineties there was no real progress, if one takes into consideration only the complete Lives of Jesus which appeared. But a number of separate problems took a more clearly defined form, so that in the end the general problem suddenly moved forward, as it seemed, with a jerk.

    There is really no common standard by which to judge the works with which we have to do. It is not the most orderly narratives, those which weave in conscientiously every detail of the text, which have advanced the study of the subject, but precisely the eccentric ones, those that take the greatest liberties with the text. It is not by the mass of facts that a writer sets down alongside of one another as possible — because he writes easily and there is no one there to contradict him, and because facts on paper do not come into collision so sharply as they do in reality — it is not in that way that he shows his power of reconstructing history, but by that which he recognises as impossible. The constructions of Reimarus and Bruno Bauer have no solidity; they are mere products of the imagination. But there is much more historical power in their clear grasp of a single definite problem, which has blinded them to all else, than there is in the circumstantial works of Beyschlag and Bernard Weiss.

    But once one has accustomed oneself to look for certain definite landmarks amid this apparent welter of contusion one begins at last to discover in vague outline the course followed, and the progress made, by the critical study of the life of Jesus.

    It falls, immediately, into two periods, that before Strauss and that after Strauss. The dominant interest in the first is the question of miracle. What terms are possible between a historical treatment and the acceptance of supernatural events? With the advent of Strauss this problem found a solution, viz., that these events have no rightful place in the history, but are simply mythical elements in the sources. The way was thus thrown open. Meanwhile, alongside of the problem of the supernatural, other problems had been dimly apprehended. Reimarus had drawn attention to the contemporary eschatological views; Hase, in his first Life of Jesus (1829), had sought to trace a development in the self-consciousness of Jesus.

    But on this point a clear view was impossible, because all the students of the subject were still basing their operations upon the harmony of the Synoptics and the Fourth Gospel; which means that they had not so far felt the need of a historically intelligible outline of the life of Jesus. Here, too, Strauss, was the lightbringer. But the transient illumination was destined to be obscured by the Marcan hypothesis,[1] which now came to the front. The necessity of choosing between John and the Synoptists was first fully established by the Tubingen school; and the right relation of this question to the Marcan hypothesis was subsequently shown by Holtzmann.

    While these discussions of the preliminary literary questions were in progress the main historical problem of the life of Jesus was slowly rising into view. The question began to be mooted: what was the significance of eschatology for the mind of Jesus? With this problem was associated, in virtue of an inner connexion which was not at first suspected, the problem of the self-consciousness of Jesus. At the beginning of the 'nineties it was generally felt that, in the solution given to this dual problem, and in some measure assured knowledge of the outward and inward course of the life of Jesus had been reached. At this point Johannes Weiss revived the comprehensive claim of Reimarus on behalf of eschatology; and scarcely had criticism adjusted its attitude to this question when Wrede renewed the attempt of Bauer and Volkmar to eliminate altogether the Messianic element from the life of Jesus.

    We are now once more in the midst of a period of great activity in the study of the subject. On the one side we are offered a historical solution, on the other a literary. The question at issue is: Is it possible to explain the contradiction between the Messianic consciousness of Jesus and His non-Messianic discourses and actions by means of a conception of His Messianic consciousness which will make it appear that He could not have acted otherwise than as the Evangelists describe; or must we endeavour to explain the contradiction by taking the non-Messianic discourses and actions as our fixed point, denying the reality of His Messianic self-consciousness and regarding it as a later interpolation of the beliefs of the Christian community into the life of Jesus? In the latter case the Evangelists are supposed to have attributed these Messianic claims to Jesus because the early Church held Him to be the Messiah, but to have contradicted themselves by describing His life as it actually was, viz., as the life of a prophet, not of one who held Himself to be the Messiah. To put it briefly: Does the difficulty of explaining the historical personality of Jesus lie in the history itself, or only in the way in which it is represented in the sources?

    This alternative will be discussed in all the critical studies of the next few years. Once clearly posed it compels a decision. But no one can really understand the problem who has not a clear notion of the way in which it has shaped itself in the course of the investigation; no one can justly criticise, or appraise the value of, new contributions to the study of this subject unless he knows in what forms they have been presented before.

    The history of the study of the life of Jesus has hitherto received surprisingly little attention. Hase, in his Life of Jesus of 1829, briefly records the previous attempts to deal with the subject. Friedrich von Ammon, himself one of the most distinguished students in this department, in his "Progress of Christianity," [l] gives some information regarding "the most notable biographies of Jesus of the last fifty years." In the year 1865 Uhlhorn treated together the Lives of Jesus of Renan, Schenkel, and Strauss; in 1876 Hase, in his "History of Jesus," gave the only complete literary history of the subject; [2] in 1892 Uhlhorn extended his former lecture to include the works of Keim, Deiff, Beyschlag, and Weiss; [3] in 1898 Frentzen described, in a short essay, the progress of the study since Strauss; [4] in 1899 and 1900 Baldensperger gave, in the Theologische Rundschau, a survey of the most recent publications; [5] Weinel's book, "Jesus in the Nineteenth Century," naturally only gives an analysis of a few classical works; Otto Schmiedel's lecture on the "Main Problems of the Critical Study of the Life of Jesus" (1902) merely sketches the history of the subject in broad outline.[1]

    Apart from scattered notices in histories of theology this is practically all the literature of the subject. There is room for an attempt to bring order into the chaos of the Lives of Jesus. Hase made ingenious comparisons between them, but he was unable to group them according to inner principles, or to judge them justly. Weiss is for him a feebler descendant of Strauss, Bruno Bauer is the victim of a fantastic imagination. It would indeed have been difficult for Hase to discover in the works of his time any principle of division. But now, when the literary and eschatological methods of solution have led to complementary results, when the post-Straussian period of investigation seems to have reached a provisional close, and the goal to which it has been tending has become clear, the time seems ripe for the attempt to trace genetically in the successive works the shaping of the problem as it now confronts us, and to give a systematic historical account of the critical study of the life of Jesus. Our endeavour will be to furnish a graphic description of all the attempts to deal with the subject; and not to dismiss them with stock phrases or traditional labels, but to show clearly what they really did to advance the formulation of the problem, whether their contemporaries recognised it or not. In accordance with this principle many famous Lives of Jesus which have prolonged an honoured existence through many successive editions, will make but a poor figure, while others, which have received scant notice, will appear great. Behind Success comes Truth, and her reward is with her.

    THE RESULTS: THOSE WHO ARE FOND OF TALKING ABOUT NEGATIVE THEOLOGY CAN FIND their account here. There is nothing more negative than the result of the critical study of the Life of Jesus.

    The Jesus of Nazareth who came forward publicly as the Messiah, who preached the ethic of the Kingdom of God, who founded the Kingdom of Heaven upon earth, and died to give His work its final consecration, never had any existence. He is a figure designed by rationalism, endowed with life by liberalism, and clothed by modern theology in an historical garb.

    This image has not been destroyed from without, it has fallen to pieces, cleft and disintegrated by the concrete historical problems which came to the surface one after another, and in spite of all the artifice, art, artificiality, and violence which was applied to them, refused to be planed down to fit the design on which the Jesus of the theology of the last hundred and thirty years had been constructed, and were no sooner covered over than they appeared again in a new form. The thoroughgoing sceptical and the thoroughgoing eschatological school have only completed the work of destruction by linking the problems into a system and so making an end of the Divide et impera of modern theology, which undertook to solve each of them separately, that is, in a less difficult form. Henceforth it is no longer permissible to take one problem out of the series and dispose of it by itself, since the weight of the whole hangs upon each.

    Whatever the ultimate solution may be, the historical Jesus of whom the criticism of the future, taking as its starting-point the problems which have been recognised and admitted, will draw the portrait, can never render modern theology the services which it claimed from its own half-historical, half-modern, Jesus. He will be a Jesus, who was Messiah, and lived as such, either on the ground of a literary fiction of the earliest Evangelist, or on the ground of a purely eschatological Messianic conception.

    In either case, He will not be a Jesus Christ to whom the religion of the present can ascribe, according to its long-cherished custom, its own thoughts and ideas, as it did with the Jesus of its own making. Nor will He be a figure which can be made by a popular historical treatment so sympathetic and universally intelligible to the multitude. The historical Jesus will be to our time a stranger and an enigma.

    The study of the Life of Jesus has had a curious history. It set out in quest of the historical Jesus, believing that when it had found Him it could bring Him straight into our time as a Teacher and Saviour. It loosed the bands by which He had been riveted for centuries to the stony rocks of ecclesiastical doctrine, and rejoiced to see life and movement coming into the figure once more, and the historical Jesus advancing, as it seemed, to meet it. But He does not stay; He passes by our time and returns to His own. What surprised and dismayed the theology of the last forty years was that, despite all forced and arbitrary interpretations, it could not keep Him in our time, but had to let Him go. He returned to His own time, not owing to the application of any historical ingenuity, but by the same inevitable necessity by which the liberated pendulum returns to its original position.

    The historical foundation of Christianity as built up by rationalistic, by liberal, and by modern theology no longer exists; but that does not mean that Christianity has lost its historical foundation. The work which historical theology thought itself bound to carry out, and which fell to pieces just as it was nearing completion, was only the brick facing of the real immovable historical foundation which is independent of any historical comfirmation or justification.

    Jesus means something to our world because a mighty spiritual force streams forth from Him and flows through our time also. This fact can neither be shaken nor confirmed by any historical discovery. It is the solid foundation of Christianity.

    The mistake was to suppose that Jesus could come to mean more to our time by entering into it as a man like ourselves. That is not possible. First because such a Jesus never existed. Secondly because, although historical knowledge can no doubt introduce greater clearness into an existing spiritual life, it cannot call spiritual life into existence. History can destroy the present; it can reconcile the present with the past; can even to a certain extent transport the present into the past; but to contribute to the making of the present is not given unto it.

    But it is impossible to over-estimate the value of what German research upon the Life of Jesus has accomplished. It is a uniquely great expression of sincerity, one of the most significant events in the whole mental and spiritual life of humanity. What has been done for the religious life of the present and the immediate future by scholars such as P. W. Schmidt, Bousset, Jiilicher, Weinel, Wernle—and their pupil Frenssen—and the others who have been called to the task of bringing to the knowledge of wider circles, in a form which is popular without being superficial, the results of religious-historical study, only becomes evident when one examines the literature and social culture of the Latin nations, who have been scarcely if at all touched by the influence of these thinkers.

    And yet the time of doubt was bound to come. We modern theologians are too proud of our historical method, too proud of our historical Jesus, too confident in our belief in the spiritual gains which our historical theology can bring to the world. The thought that we could build up by the increase of historical knowledge a new and vigorous Christianity and set free new spiritual forces, rules us like a fixed idea, and prevents us from seeing that the task which we have grappled with and in some measure discharged is only one of the intellectual preliminaries of the great religious task. We thought that it was for us to lead our time by a roundabout way through the historical Jesus, as we understood Him, in order to bring it to the Jesus who is a spiritual power in the present. This roundabout way has now been closed by genuine history.

    There was a danger of our thrusting ourselves between men and the Gospels, and refusing to leave the individual man alone with the sayings of Jesus.

    There was a danger that we should offer them a Jesus who was too small, because we had forced Him into conformity with our human standards and human psychology. To see that, one need only read the Lives of Jesus written since the 'sixties, and notice what they have made of the great imperious sayings of the Lord, how they have weakened down His imperative world-contemning demands upon individuals, that He might not come into conflict with our ethical ideals, and might tune His denial of the world to our acceptance of it. Many of the greatest sayings are found lying in a corner like explosive shells from which the charges have been removed. No small portion of elemental religious power needed to be drawn off from His sayings to prevent them from conflicting with our system of religious world-acceptance. We have made Jesus hold another language with our time from that which He really held.

    In the process we ourselves have been enfeebled, and have robbed our own thoughts of their vigour in order to project them back into history and make them speak to us out of the past. It is nothing less than a misfortune for modern theology that it mixes history with everything and ends by being proud of the skill with which it finds its own thoughts— even to its beggarly pseudo-metaphysic with which it has banished genuine speculative metaphysic from the sphere of religion—in Jesus, and represents Him as expressing them. It had almost deserved the reproach: "he who putteth his hand to the plough, and looketh back, is not fit for the Kingdom of God."

    It was no small matter, therefore, that in the course of the critical study of the Life of Jesus, after a resistance lasting for two generations, during which first one expedient was tried and then another, theology was forced by genuine history to begin to doubt the artificial history with which it had thought to give new life to our Christianity, and to yield to the facts, which, as Wrede strikingly said, are sometimes the most radical critics of all. History will force it to find a way to transcend history, and to fight for the lordship and rule of Jesus over this world with weapons tempered in a different forge.

    We are experiencing what Paul experienced. In the very moment when we were coming nearer to the historical Jesus than men had ever come before, and were already stretching out our hands to draw Him into our own time, we have been obliged to give up the attempt and acknowledge our failure in that paradoxical saying: "If we have known Christ after the flesh yet henceforth know we Him no more." And further we must be prepared to find that the historical knowledge of the personality and life of Jesus will not be a help, but perhaps even an offence to religion.

    But the truth is, it is not Jesus as historically known, but Jesus as spiritually arisen within men, who is significant for our time and can help it. Not the historical Jesus, but the spirit which goes forth from Him and in the spirits of men strives for new influence and rule, is that which overcomes the world.

    It is not given to history to disengage that which is abiding and eternal in the being of Jesus from the historical forms in which it worked itself out, and to introduce it into our world as a living influence. It has toiled in vain at this undertaking. As a water-plant is beautiful so long as it is growing in the water, but once torn from its roots, withers and becomes unrecognisable, so it is with the historical Jesus when He is wrenched loose from the soil of eschatology, and the attempt is made to conceive Him "historically" as a Being not subject to temporal conditions. The abiding and eternal in Jesus is absolutely independent of historical knowledge and can only be understood by contact with His spirit which is still at work in the world. In proportion as we have the Spirit of Jesus we have the true knowledge of Jesus.

    Jesus as a concrete historical personality remains a stranger to our time, but His spirit, which lies hidden in His words, is known in simplicity, and its influence is direct. Every saying contains in its own way the whole Jesus. The very strangeness and unconditionedness in which He stands before us makes it easier for individuals to find their own personal standpoint in regard to Him.

    Men feared that to admit the claims of eschatology would abolish the significance of His words for our time; and hence there was a feverish eagerness to discover in them any elements that might be considered not eschatologically conditioned. When any sayings were found of which the wording did not absolutely imply an eschatological connexion there was a great jubilation—these at least had been saved uninjured from the coming debacle.

    But in reality that which is eternal in the words of Jesus is due to the very fact that they are based on an eschatological worldview, and contain the expression of a mind for which the contemporary world with its historical and social circumstances no longer had any existence. They are appropriate, therefore, to any world, for in every world they raise the man who dares to meet their challenge, and does not turn and twist them into meaninglessness, above his world and his time, making him inwardly free, so that he is fitted to be, in his own world and in his own time, a simple channel of the power of Jesus.

    Modern Lives of Jesus are too general in their scope. They aim at influencing, by giving a complete impression of the life of Jesus, a whole community. But the historical Jesus, as He is depicted in the Gospels, influenced individuals by the individual word. They understood Him so far as it was necessary for them to understand, without forming any conception of His life as a whole, since this in its ultimate aims remained a mystery even for the disciples.

    Because it is thus preoccupied with the general, the universal, modern theology is determined to find its world-accepting ethic in the teaching of Jesus. Therein lies its weakness. The world affirms itself automatically; the modern spirit cannot but affirm it. But why on that account abolish the conflict between modern life, with the world-affirming spirit which inspires it as a whole, and the world-negating spirit of Jesus? Why spare the spirit of the individual man its appointed task of fighting its way through the world-negation of Jesus, of contending with Him at every step over the value of material and intellectual goods—a conflict in which it may never rest? For the general, for the institutions of society, the rule is: affirmation of the world, in conscious opposition to the view of Jesus, on the ground that the world has affirmed itself! This general affirmation of the world, however, if it is to be Christian, must in the individual spirit be Christianised and transfigured by the personal rejection of the world which is preached in the sayings of Jesus. It is only by means of the tension thus set up that religious energy can be communicated to our time. There was a danger that modern theology, for the sake of peace, would deny the world-negation in the sayings of Jesus, with which Protestantism was out of sympathy, and thus unstring the bow and make Protestantism a mere sociological instead of a religious force. There was perhaps also a danger of inward insincerity in the fact that it refused to admit to itself and others that it maintained its affirmation of the world in opposition to the sayings of Jesus, simply because it could not do otherwise.

    For that reason it is a good thing that the true historical Jesus should overthrow the modern Jesus, should rise up against the modern spirit and send upon earth, not peace, but a sword. He was not teacher, not a casuist; He was an imperious ruler. It was because He was so in His inmost being that He could think of Himself as the Son of Man. That was only the temporally conditioned expression of the fact that He was an authoritative ruler. The names in which men expressed their recognition of Him as such, Messiah, Son of Man, Son of God, have become for us historical parables. We can find no designation which expresses what He is for us.

    He comes to us as One unknown, without a name, as of old, by the lake-side, He came to those men who knew Him not. He speaks to us the same word: "Follow thou me!" and sets us to the tasks which He has to fulfil for our time. He commands. And to those who obey Him, whether they be wise or simple, He will reveal Himself in the toils, the conflicts, the sufferings which they shall pass through in His fellowship, and, as an ineffable mystery, they shall learn in their own experience Who He is.

    Perhaps there is an original Michael/Horus/Mithras/Jesus story - which was a mixture of reality and fantasy - which then was repeated and embellished. Perhaps someone should write 'The Quest for the Historical Horus' as a companion to 'The Quest of the Historical Jesus'. What would Albert Schweitzer say? BTW - Dr. Schweitzer doubted the Historical Jesus, but highly valued the Teachings of Jesus. My present view is that the Four Gospels should be studied as a mental and spiritual exercise, and that people should then think and do whatever makes sense - under the influence of the words attributed to Jesus Christ. I struggle with probably 5% of the Red-Letters, and I sometimes ask 'Jesus! What were you thinking?' Perhaps someday, someone will write 'The Quest of the Historical Orthodoxymoron', 'The Demythologized Orthodoxymoron', 'The Moron Who Never Was', 'More On Orthodoxymoron', or 'Orthodoxymoron Never Existed'. I should stop.

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    The United States of America is sometimes called a 'Christian Nation' and it is often implied or stated that the Founders intended it to be such. But what is the truth of the matter? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU24fJ4NQxo&feature=related As many of you know, I have been testing the concept of a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System. I consider myself to be a Christian, but I no longer attend church, and my views don't seem to match those of any churches or religious leaders. I continue to think we should look very closely at Psychology, Ethics, Politics, and Religion -- in an idealistic manner -- but no one really seems to wish to have anything to do with me or my views.

    Consider studying the Teachings of Jesus in a Red-Letter King James Version of the Holy Bible. I support the Teachings of Jesus, yet there are some hard sayings contained therein. Should the most problematic of these sayings be expunged -- or are we faced with an all or nothing situation? How about underlining your favorite Teachings of Christ in one color, and underlining the problematic or hard sayings in another color -- and then focusing upon your favorites? Can we use common sense in this matter?

    Are we dealing with Three Archangelic New World Order Factions of a Babylonian and/or Egyptian Old World Order? Are we dealing primarily with Egypt, Italy, Germany, and France? Whatever the case may be, I think this thing is really nasty and complex. I also think that most of us are not up to the task of properly sorting all of this out. If you think that you are an exception, try going through this entire thread, including all of the references and links, and REALLY internalize all of this, and see what YOU come up with. As far as I can tell, NO ONE has done this, other than perhaps the Queen of Heaven and God of This World. Or perhaps their minions have furnished them with periodic reports...

    So, where do I go from here? Where would I end up if I overdosed on the following?

    1. Nature.
    2. The Four Gospels.
    3. Sacred Classical Music.
    4. The Federalist Papers.
    5. The Anti-Federalist Papers.
    6. The U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.

    I feel as though I need some resolution to all of my delving into this, and delving into that. Or perhaps I should delve into Zoroastrianism, and meditate upon the Zoroastrian Jesus, flying high above the altar of the Cathedral of St. John, the Divine...
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    Within this thread, I feel as though I am in the process of confronting pilot and co-pilot hijackers on a commercial airliner, with the original pilot and co-pilot drugged, unconscious, and handcuffed in a locked lavatory at the back of the plane. I know what the culprits are up to, but how do I overpower them? And even if I were successful, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FLY THE DAMN PLANE!!! Should I ask the hijackers to give me flying lessons??? Does anyone understand what I'm hinting at? I might have to learn how to think like the hijackers, but without becoming evil and corrupt. Is this even possible? Is it possible to be so heavenly-minded, that one is of no earthly good? How would one begin to interact with the existing Pawns That Be in an effective and constructive manner, and to begin righting the wrongs, without being a puritanical and self-righteous completely ignorant fool??? Obviously, this is just more imaginary role-playing, but this hypothetical situation is worth reflecting upon. I feel like I need to start reading about the Alphabet Agencies, the Jesuits, the Vatican, the Secret Space Program, JPL, the Masons, the Nazis, and all manner of political and religious corruption and intrigue -- in order to not just be some completely useless goody-goody two shoes -- in a very screwed-up and corrupt world. I'm reading about Watergate right now, and I think I'll re-watch the original French movie 'Nikita'. Does anyone have a clue what I'm talking about?? Anyone?? Nice Kitty!? Don't laugh. They might have cats like these in Deep Underground Military Bases -- just waiting to be unleashed upon an unsuspecting general public. Ever heard of Project SCATology -- under the direction of Pinky and the Brain? They use a CAT Scanner for quality control. Is it possible to think deeply about all of this crap -- without going nuts?? I'm not going irrational nuts -- but I am somewhat despondant and demoralized -- and it's getting worse. Solving our immediate problems might just be the beginning. Our long-term galactic problems might be infinitely worse. I wish I were kidding, but my view of the universe is not a happy one, and I'm trying to imagine worst case scenarios. What would Robert Harold Schuller and Norman Vincent Peale say?

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    Is there anyone in the solar system who has taken an approach similar to the one I have taken within this thread? I'm not doing well personally, but I think I've covered significant territory over the past couple of years. I continue to be amazed at how the evil, corrupt, and filthy-rich people just keep going and going and going -- like the Energizer Bunny. I'm also amazed at the energy of people like Alex Jones, who I generally agree with conceptually, but who I couldn't even begin to keep up with. Should I try to be a hard-hitting dynamo like him? Should I stop pulling my punches? Should I start studying the thousand richest individuals in the solar system? Who are the thousand most significant individuals in the solar system -- on a reincarnational soul-level? Who is the greatest in the Kingdom of God? Should I even ask some of these questions? How should I best proceed with the concept of a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System? How should I best proceed with a University of Solar System Studies and Governance? Should I just keep doing what I'm doing, and let others deal with the details and logistics? Should I promote this thread like Alex Jones? Should I try to hob-nob with the PTB to promote my biases? Should I write books? Should I write science fiction scripts? There continues to be very little interest generated by my efforts on this site, especially when one considers that I keep this thread at the top of the list by commenting on my own thread -- several times a day. If I didn't do that, there would be very few views. On the other hand, the 'Amen Ra' thread on the original Project Avalon site has received around 20,000 views -- half of those AFTER the shut-down. This thread will reach the 991 comment limit, and will automatically close to further posting. This will probably coincide with the tenth anniversary of 9/11.

    What do you think about the efforts of Alex Jones? Is he making a constructive contribution to our world -- or is he just stirring up a lot of trouble, and unleashing anger and a spirit of anarchy in the general public? He seems to be doing a lot better than I am, and he seems to be a lot smarter than I am -- yet I hesitate to emulate his approach. Is he a genuine thinker, or is he a spokesman for a research group? What is the net worth of someone like Alex? He seems to be doing very well investing in gold, and he seems to be well prepared for the trouble which so many seem to be pointing toward. I listened to Rush Limbaugh in the 1990's -- but I became disillusioned with his approach around the time of Y2K. I generally agreed with him -- yet I always felt uneasy with his bombastic and nasty broadcasting style. Did Rush really make things better -- or did he simply conjure-up trouble? Both Rush and Alex tend to make people angry -- regardless of their editorial views. Is this a good thing? If a lot of my speculation is correct, we could REALLY be in trouble. A lot more trouble than even Alex thinks we're in. Who is the biggest threat to the darkside? Might the biggest threat to the Hidden Dark PTB be relatively unknown? I wonder. Are people like Rush and Alex really 'White-Knights'? I don't know. All I know is that they are a helluva lot more successful and popular than I will ever be. Should I be jealous, or should I be happy for them?

    I think I should probably thank them for presenting the Conservative Perspective in such a forceful and articulate manner -- but I should probably not try to be like them -- even if my approach keeps me in the poor-house -- or in no-house -- as a completely broke, completely broken, completely ignorant fool, with no self-governance -- and as a sinner in the hands of the vengeful deities who I refuse to play ball with. I wish to make it clear that I am not in bed with anyone, other than my dog, and I am not racist or factional. I am embracing the Teachings of Jesus, the U.S. Constitution, and the Bill of Rights -- because of their Universality, and not because of their Exclusivity. However, I do keep an open mind regarding the possibility that both the Teachings of Jesus and the U.S. Constitution might've been corrupted with various additions and deletions. There are the hard-sayings of Jesus. There is Article 6 and the 16th Amendment. I understand this, and there is probably a lot more which I do not understand. But I desire that this Solar System become a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System, with an uncorrupted and properly adapted form of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights, with 10,000 U.S.S.S. Representatives with PhD's in Solar System Studies and Governance, obtained from a University of Solar System Studies and Governance, with scores of campuses located throughout the Solar System. This basic concept can be refined over time, in an evolutionary, rather than a revolutionary, manner. I want the corruption and wars to cease and desist. I want all wrongs righted. This is not a complicated concept.

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    Just let the various Eric Jon Phelps videos play, for a real education. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbOI3uRggJE&feature=rellist&playnext=1&list=PLC364B04CAAA298D6 I don't share his white-bias, even though I'm white. I don't share his Baptist-bias, even though I am a non church-going follower of the Teachings of Jesus. I appreciate his vast grasp of history, and his ability to connect dots. Tell me what you think. I continue to wish to understand, rather than condemn. So, really, I'm a lot softer than Eric Jon Phelps. I really wish for things to work out well for virtually EVERYONE, with some notable exceptions perhaps, which I'm not prepared to name, at this point in time...

    I continue to think that science fiction is an important part of this thread. Most of us don't have Cosmic Clearance - so we have to make due with the scraps of information we get fed in the mass media. The higher ups don't want us simple cattle to stampede! Run! Goyim! Run!! My computer is running very poorly - so I assume that someone doesn't like what I'm posting. Could you guys and gals just monitor me by going online, like everyone else - instead of doing all of that fancy back-door Cray Supercomputer BS? I'd really like to have my computer back. Besides, the interdimensional reptilian spys are keeping me under constant watch. I couldn't resist. I know you are just doing your jobs. But really - I mean absolutely no harm. Check out these BBC clips from 'Dr. Who':

    1. Hungry Earth:

    Part 1 https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdhpm9_doctor-who-2005-5x08-the-hungry-ear_shortfilms
    Part 2 https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdhrar_doctor-who-2005-5x08-the-hungry-ear_shortfilms
    Part 3 https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdhs38_doctor-who-2005-5x08-the-hungry-ear_shortfilms

    2. Cold Blood:

    Part 1 https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdhs78_doctor-who-2005-5x09-cold-blood_shortfilms
    Part 2 https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdhszm_doctor-who-2005-5x09-cold-blood-2_shortfilms
    Part 3 https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdhtm6_doctor-who-2005-5x09-cold-blood-3_shortfilms

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    IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, AND WITH THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, I COMMAND EVERY WILLFULLY UNRIGHTEOUS AND DEMONIC SPIRIT WITHIN THIS SOLAR SYSTEM, TO PROCEED INTO THE BOTTOMLESS PIT, WITHOUT DELAY. IF MY TIMING IS OFF, PLEASE FORGIVE ME. I LOST MY PROPHECY CHART. IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, AND WITH THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, I CHOOSE TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT. I'VE MADE A SINCERE EFFORT TO DO THE RIGHT THING WITHIN THIS THREAD, BUT THIS VENTURE HAS LARGELY BEEN IGNORED, WITH VERY LITTLE SERIOUS AND DETAILED DISCUSSION. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THIS ENDS NOW. I DON'T WISH TO BE CLOSE-MINDED, ARBITRARY, OR SHRILL, BUT CORRUPTION AND VIOLENCE IN THIS SOLAR SYSTEM NEEDS TO END. I HAVE ARGUED AGAINST A GENOCIDAL APOCALYPSE, YET THE HARD-CORE EVIL IN THIS SOLAR SYSTEM MUST BE DEALT WITH IN A DECISIVE MANNER. I'M TIRED OF PLAYING GAMES AND BEATING AROUND THE BURNING BUSH. I REALLY WANT THIS TO BE OVER.

    Does the above statement go too far, or not far enough? Is it too little, too late? Somehow, I get the feeling that no one really noticed, demonic or otherwise. Without knowing what's really going on, it's hard to be dogmatic and definite. I want this solar system cleaned-up, yet I don't want to be a two-faced, back-stabbing sonofabitch. I wish to expose all manner of evil and corruption, yet I wish to do this in a kind and understanding manner. What is a "WILLFULLY UNRIGHTEOUS AND DEMONIC SPIRIT"? Can anyone tell me? What is "THE BOTTOMLESS PIT"? Is this a prison, or is it eternal damnation, possibly including ceasing to exist in all dimensions? I've made it clear that I support a combination of reform, incarceration, and exorcism -- but I don't know how bad the bad-guys really are, and how dangerous they might be if they survive. Are some beings too dangerous to save? Remember what happened in 'Star Wars III - Revenge of the Sith'? Am I a sucker for a sob-story? Is love the salvation or the damnation of the solar system? I've recently been leaning toward Rewarding Responsibility as an MO -- rather than a mushy version of love -- even though I think that Responsibility, Response-Ability, and Love are interlocking concepts...

    I just talked to a very smart young lady who really 'got it' regarding a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System, and regarding some of the Esoteric Egyptology. I really think the young people are going to run with this concept, and I'll probably just get in the way. I'm too screwed-up to be of much use, but I think that I'm on the right track, in a somewhat clumsy and ponderous manner. I am VERY aware of my problems and limitations.

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    I'm still looking for balance in all of this. I don't want to know too little or too much. I don't want to do too little or too much. I don't want to be too formal or too informal. My level of internal discomfort is getting worse and worse. Does this indicate an intensifying spiritual war, or does it indicate that I am losing a spiritual war? Did anyone listen to that Phelps link a couple of posts ago? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbOI3uRggJE&feature=rellist&playnext=1&list=PLC364B04CAAA298D6 If even half of what he said was true, this is an incredible collection of information. I really think that the decision has been made, at the highest and lowest levels, that the general public will be told the truth. I doubt that people like Alex Jones and Eric Jon Phelps would be able to do what they're doing, if this weren't the case. I doubt that this site would exist, or that even what I post would be tolerated, if this weren't the case. But the truth is a mixed-bag. It both solves and creates problems. I support a cold-infowar, which is under control, tactful, and respectful. The controlled release of upsetting information is much better than a chaotic release of information which leads to anarchy and violence. Unfortunately, that sort of thing could still happen. My current strategy is to know everything and do nothing -- or next to nothing. Just sorting everything out, on a personal level, is really doing quite a lot, even if it doesn't seem like it. Going off half-cocked is a big mistake, especially regarding the subjects we discuss on this site. I like a lot of the ideas in this thread, but I think others will be the pioneers who actually do something significant with these ideas, principles, and concepts.

    As some of you know, I have been experimenting with the concept of Three Archangelic Factions being instrumental in the history of the world and solar system. I have speculated that God the Father was instrumental in Very Ancient Antiquity, but that I don't see a lot of activity by God the Father in Solar System Governance. I keep sensing an Absent God the Father. Further, I see Archangel Michael as being largely disempowered throughout World and Solar System Governmental History, yet still being present at all times. This leaves an Empowered Gabriel and Lucifer, where I sense the dominance of Gabriel, up until perhaps the last two or three centuries, with a possible marked Luciferian dominance in the last hundred years. This is VERY thinly evidenced speculation, and should be taken with more salt than usual. I have taken the view that in the Very Ancient World -- all roads led to North Africa -- with all roads leading to Rome over the past several thousand years. I have also taken the view that all factions, throughout history, have had their good and bad aspects, but that overall, things have been VERY bad in this neck of the woods, and that we might be facing a horrible immediate future. Furthermore, I have taken the view that the Roman Catholic Church has been, and is, a central organization in Solar System Governance over the past couple of thousand years, that it is a mixture of good and evil, and that it is reformable and redeemable. I keep trying to imagine myself as being a Renegade French Jesuit Organist, over the past two or three hundred years, and I'm not sure why. The imagination is a wonderful thing. All of my posts should be taken with a sea of salt. Despite any interesting incarnations and reincarnations, I have no knowledge of these, and I have no education or insider information which is not widely available on the internet, so I continue to fly blind. I continue to speculate that a Michael Dominated Solar System might incorporate key aspects of a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System, and a Completely Reformed Roman Catholic Church, wherein the U.S.S.S. and the R.C.C. were somehow integrated, or at least in harmony with each other. There are Roman features in the American governmental model, such as in the concept of the Senate, and in Capitol architecture.

    I realize that all of this is a very volatile and dangerous area of discussion and speculation, which is why I only post on a small website. If I ever write a book, it would be VERY watered-down, and not because I would necessarily have to do so. I would choose to make it much more general, and possibly it might surface as a sci-fi novel, but I would love to see the key players answer all of my questions within the manuscript (which I have asked throughout this thread), and have expert editing and marketing. All of this madness is not quite ready for prime-time, to say the least. In a recent post, I grew more shrill regarding hard-core evil and corruption in this solar system, which I think will need to be bound and/or completely removed. I have tried to remain open and accomodating, but I feel as though the universe keeps laughing behind my back, rather than taking me seriously. I am very disillusioned and despondant regarding the state of affairs in the world, solar system, galaxy, and universe. I used to think it was just us stupid Earth humans, who were the problem. Now, I'm seeing trouble everywhere. I so hope that I'm wrong. Some might question my questioning. Well, I got the idea from a class I used to attend, with most of the class members having doctorate degrees. Several questions were written at the front of the room, and the class members discussed and answered the questions. Again, all of the subject matter within this thread is very difficult to master or prove, regardless of education or priviledge. One more thing. I have never belonged to any secret organizations, or participated in any supernatural or creepy activities - and I never will. However, creepy things have happened in my life, but not because I went looking for them, or because I participated in rituals or secret meetings. I'm not that kind of guy, and I never will be. I continue a passive quest for the truth. I know that I could take a much more direct route, but I choose not to. I have actually worked hard to avoid direct contact with the truth throughout the years, and I suspend judgment to an excruciating extent. I could say a lot more than I do, and I could be a helluva lot more nasty than I am. I kid you not.

    What if we are faced with several choices, with only one or two of them yielding nice results? I keep getting the sinking feeling that most people are not making the right choices, and that they haven't been for thousands of years, especially at the highest levels of human governance. The Pawns That Be seem to keep selling us out, and we seem to keep buying the wrong products. I think we make things very, very easy for the bad guys and gals. Will we ever learn? How many thousands of years have we had to get this right? Think about it -- but don't strain yourselves, or lose a lot of sleep over it...

    Here is a consolidation of my musical links - which are intended to supplement your research activities. This is Sacred Classical Music - but you don't have to believe in the Bible, Church, or God - to benefit from it. The same goes for the Latin Mass (the art-form) - believe it, or not. (replacing the incense with cannabis enhances one's spiritual experience!) The Latin Mass, the Sacred Classical Music, and the Magnificent Churches of the World - form an artistic unity - which become a spiritual unity when the Teachings of Jesus are added. But one can really believe anything, or believe nothing - and benefit from all of the above. Here are two inspiring videos. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6QUxWbYgpE&feature=related 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5Ds8e5Y4iE&feature=related I sang in the choir with this remarkable man on many Sundays. I miss the Crystal Cathedral. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E7f00J0hDw&feature=related I loved singing in the choir. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLhGv8m0rn0&feature=related I hope they can solve their problems.

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW8AJds1CzI
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mM46lVVarg&feature=related
    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdU0-d1Kz7I&feature=related
    4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rAMdw4DQIE&feature=related
    5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9QIEvARo1M&fmt=18
    6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcphxV9jpo8&feature=related
    7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rk2zJP85Cc
    8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZWOGcdC_PI&feature=fvst
    9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydyLBdVZh34
    10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCsnSXRpXug&feature=related
    11. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rig6b-jogg&feature=related
    12. BWV 564 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuVzH8CkAoU&feature=related (includes BWV 538)
    13. BWV 565 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QVaFcoC4_Y&feature=related
    14. BWV 565 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Aej0vQJNQA&feature=related
    15. BWV 566 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2mYzjhZmJk&feature=related
    16. BWV 566 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egT5ZLt5GVg&feature=related (includes BWV 532 and BWV 546)
    17. BWV 572 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG0cTLyOsmU&feature=related
    18. BWV 575 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDvUHr6WpFI&feature=related (includes BWV 549 and BWV 568 and BWV 589 and BWV 535 and BWV 550)
    19. BWV 577 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M-RWJki3wY&feature=related (includes BWV 541 and BWV 539 and BWV 534 and BWV 537)
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    21. BWV 582 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1kX8T-CG7I (includes BWV 540 and BWV 565)
    22. Widor Symphonie 6 "Allegro" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEzadkak0m8&NR=1
    23. Saint Sulpice - Easter 2010 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihb6EiynIxs&feature=related
    24. Mulet Carillon Sortie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq8i69-L-Fs&feature=related
    25. Dubois Toccata https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKwQTvj1h8w&feature=related
    26. Boellmann Suite Gothique https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueU4CDjn3v0&feature=related
    27. Gigout Grand Choeur Dialogue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9suezChCKtk&feature=related
    28. Saint Saens Sympony 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pny-Ily4SbE&feature=related
    29. Widor Toccata https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_rHIbuB2Ak&feature=related
    30. Gigout Toccata https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdW_OnXrqlU&feature=related
    31. Widor Symphony 2 Finale https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DlJgdmcRG8
    32. Richard Conte and the Philadelphia Brass at Macy's https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=PJO3CBIARUs
    33. Hallelujah Chorus at Macy's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S0dn7tqkBg&feature=related
    34. Star Wars at Macy's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQfeUAqCqtI&feature=related
    35. Fred Swann at Macy's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4sHtMyyWCg&feature=related
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    52. Bach BWV 662 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aW_nHk33wU
    53. Dupre Symphonie-Passion Nativie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EyWH7jrgZk&feature=related
    54. Dupre Symphonie-Passion Crucifixion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EyWH7jrgZk&feature=related
    55. Dupre Symphonie-Passion Resurrection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlMwN5MDQ0M&feature=related
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    57. Chapuis Improvization on Bach's 'Vater unser im Himmelreich' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiMnLsJK-qk
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    59. Saint Saen Fantasie in E Flat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vYn1lKgv4c&feature=related
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    61. Vierne Symphonie 3 Finale https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mVSoikeA0o
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    63. Lemmens Fanfare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svtE5iJUrgg&feature=related
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    68. Widor Symphony 10 'Romane' Moderato https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0RaATmFXXU&feature=related
    69. Tournemire Grave Fugue Postlude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sK5cJPczb0&feature=related
    70. Widor Symphony 10 'Romane' Chorale https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpjYGAzEXjI&feature=related
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    73. Liszt Funerailles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws9_F-FXqgI&feature=related
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    75. Kramer Evocation Improvization https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgNOvYTY4Os&feature=related
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    77. Vierne 'The Bells of Hinkley' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qhEgE7-K34&feature=related
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    79. Chapuis Improvization on Bach's "Valet will ich dir geben" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J70-Kbvf_9A&feature=related
    80. BWV 533 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQkJ2QyLBNw&NR=1 (includes BWV 569, BWV 537, and BWV 545)
    81. BWV 1080 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrb0dHKJBR4&feature=related
    82. BWV 248 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVeluHdzcBY&NR=1
    83. BWV 988 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je8brwUWOew&feature=fvwrel
    84. BWV 244 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFHXWoawnt0&feature=related (Part 1)
    85. BWV 244 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAox7O4o9vc&feature=related (Part 2)
    86. BWV 245 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAJ4Be5cMWY&feature=related (Part 1)
    87. BWV 245 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu7rVWzIEus&feature=related (Part 2)
    88. Dupre Cortege et Litanie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRcMtB27z7E&NR=1
    89. Dupre Improvisation on 'Veni Creator Spiritus' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOnr5uhoPlE&NR=1
    90. Dupre Carillon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxBjqrPAUg8&feature=related
    91. Dupre Prelude and Fugue Opus 36 Number 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztpey-Jt4Jc&feature=related
    92. Dupre Prelude and Fugue in B-major Opus 7 Number 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjqbee8cRyw&feature=related
    93. Naji Hakim Final https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDSfz5HG7AA&feature=related&fmt=18
    94. Roth Improvisation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uhyY35REZE&feature=related
    95. Franck Potpourri https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33GikBSeguc&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=MLacdYuOj0G3vTHOl_SiC585LyfjFwlT7j
    96. Bach B Minor Mass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdLCcQixNvg&playnext=1&list=PLEFB725C82BC4D2A1
    97. BWV 54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9nNHSU3Icw&feature=related
    98. BWV 147 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPeVIuRjUi4&feature=related
    99. BWV 147 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsqsAFoXE-I&feature=related
    100. BWV 169 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJLK_eEcZ9s&feature=related
    101. BWV 232 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdLCcQixNvg&feature=related
    102. BWV 242 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZvkSSVp3H8&feature=related
    103. BWV 526 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpvo3mYHYcs&feature=related
    104. BWV 527 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtvZ84UmPR0&feature=related
    105. BWV 529 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP2rdbQCS_8&feature=related
    106. BWV 533 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fDqMV3Vf10&feature=related
    107. BWV 537 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjRsjPsmrWY&feature=related
    108. BWV 537 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njV3Po8MlBo&feature=related
    109. BWV 538a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP4bNH3fn9k&feature=fvwrel
    110. BWV 538b https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPvF8pR0jD4&feature=related
    111. BWV 538a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wfn-cLYqgU&feature=related
    112. BWV 538b https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLnMGD9hZr4&feature=related
    113. BWV 540 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKZYeFE1XJ4
    114. BWV 543 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvkpFN3a9rk&feature=related
    115. BWV 543 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHuzLO5nnts&feature=related
    116. BWV 546 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ekKJ0GNAfQ
    117. BWV 549 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_czE0uk7VVo&feature=related
    118. BWV 549 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lXbFtHU9bY&feature=related
    119. BWV 639 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mFUXBa4ook&feature=related
    120. BWV 736 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXQgeCq0QhE&feature=related
    121. BWV 1083 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckIerDUo7nE&feature=related
    122. Widor Mass op. 36 Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra3ngNRz_sc
    123. Widor Mass op. 36 Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP9Zqi2yPT0&feature=related
    124. Widor Symphony 6 Allegro (with orchestra!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQMOC-VC1sQ&feature=related
    125. Choral Kyrie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Veof_APhkkQ
    126. Tantum Ergo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7JUaIpvQjM&feature=related
    127. Oliver Latry Improvisation at Notre Dame de Paris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxVO3EoCRM&feature=related
    128. Pierre Cochereau Improvisation at Notre Dame de Paris Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qo-OE5JwrU
    129. Pierre Cochereau Improvisation at Notre Dame de Paris Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDC2W0bk9RA&feature=related
    130. Pierre Cochereau Improvisation at Notre Dame de Paris Part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZgIN3E7D9w&feature=related
    131. Pierre Cochereau Improvisation at St. Thomas Church NYC Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMo6h2u1jSM
    132. Pierre Cochereau Improvisation at St. Thomas Church NYC Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHqGwJBbBHg&feature=related
    133. Pierre Cochereau Improvisation at St. Thomas Church NYC Part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLaqY7YMTB4&feature=related
    134. Pierre Cochereau Improvisation at St. Thomas Church NYC Part 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rig6b-jogg&feature=related
    135. Pierre Cochereau Te Deum at Notre Dame de Paris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDqL6pjpjY
    136. Pierre Cochereau Kyrie IX 'Orbis Factor' - Introit, Chant, and Sortie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT6eVLPI7sw&NR=1
    137. Pierre Cochereau Improvised Sortie on Adeste Fidelis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvKrXwYkUJs&NR=1
    138. Pierre Cochereau Improvisation on Adeste Fidelis (longer version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3qf4eEifZs&feature=related
    139. Pierre Cochereau Improvised March https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHN64nC9LdU&feature=related
    140. Alleluia (Mawbry) and Improvised Postlude (Cochereau) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKF8K9cJCuY&feature=related
    141. Jerusalem et Sion Filiae https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJdPI27gZPg&feature=related
    142. Victimae Paschali Laudes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlSK8vn55ZA&feature=related
    143. O Filii et Filiae https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsjFezL5KdY&feature=related
    144. Magnificat (Ton Royal) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvQ1YRN5Pr8&feature=related
    145. Veni Sancte Spiritus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3oVsUuK8Ik&NR=1
    146. Vierne Kyrie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaVaNw3jito&feature=related
    147. Vierne Agnus Dei https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPd3d_9f570&NR=1
    148. Palm Sunday at Notre Dame de Paris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfbA7_vjWLg&feature=related
    149. Vepres a Notre Dame (Primiere Section) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2xseSfxEFQ&feature=related
    150. Vepres a Notre Dame (Seconde Section) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXwWGGxo0KQ&feature=related
    151. Vepres a Notre Dame (Troisieme Section) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1C7hdP7zLc&feature=related
    152. Ave Maria - Communion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCfb8mTO5DM&feature=related
    153. Traditional Latin Mass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enWiFcsBqIE
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    155. Philippe Lefebvre Improvisation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ-pZp1FQPE&feature=related

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    I've been touching upon this from time to time, but I'm going to try to really absorb what the Blacks are saying about Ancient Africa, especially regarding the origins of Western Civilization, the Knights Templar, and Freemasonry. 1. http://www.zulunation.com/required.html 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Umccs7Ukcw&feature=related I think this will be a private journey for me. There is only room for two more posts on this thread, and I could start a second part to it, but I doubt that I will. There is a huge area of study which is opening up to me, and I doubt that I will ever master it, or become any sort of an authority about anything at all. But I doubt that very few people on the planet will experience the flashes of insight which I have experienced, and which I will experience. I really don't wish to be a beggar or a super-salesperson for my particular biases or points of view. I don't wish to continue to destroy my life in connection with all of this, and I certainly don't wish to harm others in any way, shape, or form. I had hoped that things would begin to resolve, but they haven't, and I don't expect that they will. This is the sort of thing I'll be listening to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8rZWHUtwtk This isn't for everyone, and I refuse to get caught-up in the racism which is often connected to this area of research. If people quickly and easily interacted with me, I'd be a lot more willing to deal with all of this publicly, but I'm tired of making post after post after post, without anyone posting any sort of a comment or response. All I'm doing is adding to my Alphabet Agency Files, and moving closer and closer to the top of the Red List. My computer hardly functions, and the fan revs like a Ferrari -- and I know why. I keep feeling as though this is coat-holding time. I'll try to do my homework, and after the dust settles, if I'm still alive, I might try once again to interact with people in a constructive manner. Namaste and Godspeed. http://www.kemetnu.com/Products.htm

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    The following introduction to the Sermon on the Mount is from the preface and first chapter of 'Thoughts from the Mount of Blessing' by Ellen White. This is followed by the Sermon on the Mount from Matthew 5-7. (KJV) The homily is from 'The Sermon on the Mount' in the book 'Desire of Ages' by Ellen White. Try listening to a Latin Mass - while reading this aloud. Repeatedly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enWiFcsBqIE

    The Sermon on the Mount is Heaven's benediction to the world--a voice from the throne of God. It was given to mankind to be to them the law of duty and the light of heaven, their hope and consolation in despondency, their joy and comfort in all the vicissitudes and walks of life. Here the Prince of preachers, the Master Teacher, utters the words that the Father gave Him to speak. The Beatitudes are Christ's greeting, not only to those who believe, but to the whole human family. He seems to have forgotten for a moment that He is in the world, not in heaven; and He uses the familiar salutation of the world of light. Blessings flow from His lips as the gushing forth of a long-sealed current of rich life.

    Christ leaves us in no doubt as to the traits of character that He will always recognize and bless. From the ambitious favorites of the world, He turns to those whom they disown, pronouncing all blessed who receive His light and life. To the poor in spirit, the meek, the lowly, the sorrowful, the despised, the persecuted, He opens His arms of refuge, saying, "Come unto Me, . . . and I will give you rest." Christ can look upon the misery of the world without a shade of sorrow for having created man. In the human heart He sees more than sin, more than misery. In His infinite wisdom and love He sees man's possibilities, the height to which he may attain. He knows that, even though human beings have abused their mercies and destroyed their God-given dignity, yet the Creator is to be glorified in their redemption.

    Throughout all time the words that Christ spoke from the mount of Beatitudes will retain their power. Every sentence is a jewel from the treasure house of truth. The principles enunciated in this discourse are for all ages and for all classes of men. With divine energy, Christ expressed His faith and hope as He pointed out class after class as blessed because of having formed righteous characters. Living the life of the Life-giver, through faith in Him, everyone can reach the standard held up in His words.

    More than fourteen centuries before Jesus was born in Bethlehem, the children of Israel gathered in the fair vale of Shechem, and from the mountains on either side the voices of the priests were heard proclaiming the blessings and the curses--"a blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the Lord your God: . . . and a curse, if ye will not obey." Deuteronomy 11:27, 28. And thus the mountain from which the words of benediction were spoken came to be known as the mount of blessing. But it was not upon Gerizim that the words were spoken which have come as a benediction to a sinning and sorrowing world. Israel fell short of the high ideal which had been set before her. Another than Joshua must guide His people to the true rest of faith. No longer is Gerizim known as the mount of the Beatitudes, but that unnamed mountain beside the Lake of Gennesaret, where Jesus spoke the words of blessing to His disciples and the multitude.

    Let us in imagination go back to that scene, and, as we sit with the disciples on the mountainside, enter into the thoughts and feelings that filled their hearts. Understanding what the words of Jesus meant to those who heard them, we may discern in them a new vividness and beauty, and may also gather for ourselves their deeper lessons.

    When the Saviour began His ministry, the popular conception of the Messiah and His work was such as wholly unfitted the people to receive Him. The spirit of true devotion had been lost in tradition and ceremonialism, and the prophecies were interpreted at the dictate of proud, world-loving hearts. The Jews looked for the coming One, not as a Saviour from sin, but as a great prince who should bring all nations under the supremacy of the Lion of the tribe of Judah. In vain had John the Baptist, with the heart-searching power of the ancient prophets, called them to repentance. In vain had he, beside the Jordan, pointed to Jesus as the Lamb of God, that taketh away the sin of the world. God was seeking to direct their minds to Isaiah's prophecy of the suffering Saviour, but they would not hear.

    Had the teachers and leaders in Israel yielded to His transforming grace, Jesus would have made them His ambassadors among men. In Judea first the coming of the kingdom had been proclaimed, and the call to repentance had been given. In the act of driving out the desecrators from the temple at Jerusalem, Jesus had announced Himself as the Messiah--the One who should cleanse the soul from the defilement of sin and make His people a holy temple unto the Lord. But the Jewish leaders would not humble themselves to receive the lowly Teacher from Nazareth. At His second visit to Jerusalem He was arraigned before the Sanhedrin, and fear of the people alone prevented these dignitaries from trying to take His life. Then it was that, leaving Judea, He entered upon His ministry in Galilee. His work there had continued some months before the Sermon on the Mount was given. The message He had proclaimed throughout the land, "The kingdom of heaven is at hand" (Matthew 4:17), had arrested the attention of all classes, and had still further fanned the flame of their ambitious hopes. The fame of the new Teacher had spread beyond the limits of Palestine, and, notwithstanding the attitude of the hierarchy, the feeling was widespread that this might be the hoped-for Deliverer. Great multitudes thronged the steps of Jesus, and the popular enthusiasm ran high.

    The time had come for the disciples who had been most closely associated with Christ to unite more directly in His work, that these vast throngs might not be left uncared for, as sheep without a shepherd. Some of these disciples had joined themselves to Him at the beginning of His ministry, and nearly all the twelve had been associated together as members of the family of Jesus. Yet they also, misled by the teaching of the rabbis, shared the popular expectation of an earthly kingdom. They could not comprehend the movements of Jesus. Already they had been perplexed and troubled that He made no effort to strengthen His cause by securing the support of the priests and rabbis, that He did nothing to establish His authority as an earthly king. A great work was yet to be accomplished for these disciples before they would be prepared for the sacred trust that would be theirs when Jesus should ascend to heaven. Yet they had responded to the love of Christ, and, though slow of heart to believe, Jesus saw in them those whom He could train and discipline for His great work. And now that they had been long enough with Him to establish, in a measure, their faith in the divine character of His mission, and the people also had received evidence of His power which they could not question, the way was prepared for an avowal of the principles of His kingdom that would help them to comprehend its true nature.

    Alone upon a mountain near the Sea of Galilee, Jesus had spent all night in prayer for these chosen ones. At the dawn He called them to Him, and, with words of prayer and instruction, laid His hands upon their heads in benediction, setting them apart to the gospel work. Then He repaired with them to the seaside, where in the early morning a great multitude had already begun to assemble. Besides the usual crowd from the Galilean towns, there were great numbers from Judea, and from Jerusalem itself; from Perea, and from the half-heathen population of Decapolis; from Idumea, away to the south of Judea, and from Tyre and Sidon, the Phoenician cities on the shore of the Mediterranean. "Hearing what great things He did," they "came to hear Him, and to be healed of their diseases; and . . . power came forth from Him, and healed them all." Mark 3:8, R.V.; Luke 6:17-19, R.V.

    Then, as the narrow beach did not afford even standing room within reach of His voice for all who desired to hear Him, Jesus led the way back to the mountainside. Reaching a level space that afforded a pleasant gathering place for the vast assembly, He seated Himself upon the grass, and His disciples and the multitude followed His example. With a feeling that something more than usual might be expected, the disciples had pressed about their Master. From the events of the morning they gathered assurance that some announcement was about to be made in regard to the kingdom which, as they fondly hoped, He was soon to establish. A feeling of expectancy pervaded the multitude also, and eager faces gave evidence of the deep interest.

    As they sat upon the green hillside, awaiting the words of the divine Teacher, their hearts were filled with thoughts of future glory. There were scribes and Pharisees who looked forward to the day when they should have dominion over the hated Romans and possess the riches and splendor of the world's great empire. The poor peasants and fishermen hoped to hear the assurance that their wretched hovels, the scanty food, the life of toil, and fear of want, were to be exchanged for mansions of plenty and days of ease. In place of the one coarse garment which was their covering by day and their blanket at night, they hoped that Christ would give them the rich and costly robes of their conquerors. All hearts thrilled with the proud hope that Israel was soon to be honored before the nations as the chosen of the Lord, and Jerusalem exalted as the head of a universal kingdom.

    The Holy Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ according to Matthew.

    Matthew 5: 1 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set , his disciples came unto him: 2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying , 3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 4 Blessed are they that mourn : for they shall be comforted . 5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. 6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled . 7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy . 8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. 9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. 10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are ye , when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely , for my sake . 12 Rejoice , and be exceeding glad : for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. 13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour , wherewith shall it be salted ? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. 14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid . 15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. 16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy , but to fulfil . 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass , one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled . 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. 21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill ; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say , Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. 23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; 24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way ; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

    25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. 26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing. 27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery : 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. 29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out , and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish , and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. 30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off , and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish , and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. 31 It hath been said , Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: 32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery : and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery . 33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself , but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: 34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: 35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool : neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37 But let your communication be , Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil. 38 Ye have heard that it hath been said , An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law , and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away . 43 Ye have heard that it hath been said , Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye ? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

    Matthew 6: 1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven. 2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. 3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth : 4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly . 5 And when thou prayest , thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you , They have their reward. 6 But thou, when thou prayest , enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly . 7 But when ye pray , use not vain repetitions , as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. 8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him. 9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come . Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. 14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. 16 Moreover when ye fast , be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast . Verily I say unto you , They have their reward. 17 But thou, when thou fastest , anoint thine head, and wash thy face; 18 That thou appear not unto men to fast , but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly . 19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt , and where thieves break through and steal : 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt , and where thieves do not break through nor steal : 21 For where your treasure is , there will your heart be also. 22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. 23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! 24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. 25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat , or what ye shall drink ; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on . Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? 26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap , nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? 27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? 28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow ; they toil not, neither do they spin : 29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is , and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? 31 Therefore take no thought , saying , What shall we eat ? or, What shall we drink ? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed ? 32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek :) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. 34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

    Matthew 7: 1 Judge not, that ye be not judged . 2 For with what judgment ye judge , ye shall be judged : and with what measure ye mete , it shall be measured to you again . 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold , a beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. 6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. 7 Ask , and it shall be given you; seek , and ye shall find ; knock , and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth ; and he that seeketh findeth ; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened . 9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? 10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? 11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him? 12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. 13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat : 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits . Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down , and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them , I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended , and the floods came , and the winds blew , and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended , and the floods came , and the winds blew , and beat upon that house; and it fell : and great was the fall of it.
    28 And it came to pass , when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine: 29 For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

    The Gospel of the Lord.

    Christ disappointed the hope of worldly greatness. In the Sermon on the Mount He sought to undo the work that had been wrought by false education, and to give His hearers a right conception of His kingdom and of His own character. Yet He did not make a direct attack on the errors of the people. He saw the misery of the world on account of sin, yet He did not present before them a vivid delineation of their wretchedness. He taught them of something infinitely better than they had known. Without combating their ideas of the kingdom of God, He told them the conditions of entrance therein, leaving them to draw their own conclusions as to its nature. The truths He taught are no less important to us than to the multitude that followed Him. We no less than they need to learn the foundation principles of the kingdom of God.

    Christ's first words to the people on the mount were words of blessing. Happy are they, He said, who recognize their spiritual poverty, and feel their need of redemption. The gospel is to be preached to the poor. Not to the spiritually proud, those who claim to be rich and in need of nothing, is it revealed, but to those who are humble and contrite. One fountain only has been opened for sin, a fountain for the poor in spirit. The proud heart strives to earn salvation; but both our title to heaven and our fitness for it are found in the righteousness of Christ. The Lord can do nothing toward the recovery of man until, convinced of his own weakness, and stripped of all self-sufficiency, he yields himself to the control of God. Then he can receive the gift that God is waiting to bestow. From the soul that feels his need, nothing is withheld. He has unrestricted access to Him in whom all fullness dwells. "For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones." Isa. 57:15.

    "Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted." By these words Christ does not teach that mourning in itself has power to remove the guilt of sin. He gives no sanction to pretense or to voluntary humility. The mourning of which He speaks does not consist in melancholy and lamentation. While we sorrow on account of sin, we are to rejoice in the precious privilege of being children of God. We often sorrow because our evil deeds bring unpleasant consequences to ourselves; but this is not repentance. Real sorrow for sin is the result of the working of the Holy Spirit. The Spirit reveals the ingratitude of the heart that has slighted and grieved the Saviour, and brings us in contrition to the foot of the cross. By every sin Jesus is wounded afresh; and as we look upon Him whom we have pierced, we mourn for the sins that have brought anguish upon Him. Such mourning will lead to the renunciation of sin.

    The worldling may pronounce this sorrow a weakness; but it is the strength which binds the penitent to the Infinite One with links that cannot be broken. It shows that the angels of God are bringing back to the soul the graces that were lost through hardness of heart and transgression. The tears of the penitent are only the raindrops that precede the sunshine of holiness. This sorrow heralds a joy which will be a living fountain in the soul. "Only acknowledge thine iniquity, that thou hast transgressed against the Lord thy God;" "and I will not cause Mine anger to fall upon you: for I am merciful, saith the Lord." Jer. 3:13, 12. "Unto them that mourn in Zion," He has appointed to give "beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness." Isa. 61:3. And for those also who mourn in trial and sorrow there is comfort. The bitterness of grief and humiliation is better than the indulgences of sin. Through affliction God reveals to us the plague spots in our characters, that by His grace we may overcome our faults. Unknown chapters in regard to ourselves are opened to us, and the test comes, whether we will accept the reproof and the counsel of God. When brought into trial, we are not to fret and complain. We should not rebel, or worry ourselves out of the hand of Christ.

    We are to humble the soul before God. The ways of the Lord are obscure to him who desires to see things in a light pleasing to himself. They appear dark and joyless to our human nature. But God's ways are ways of mercy and the end is salvation. Elijah knew not what he was doing when in the desert he said that he had had enough of life, and prayed that he might die. The Lord in His mercy did not take him at his word. There was yet a great work for Elijah to do; and when his work was done, he was not to perish in discouragement and solitude in the wilderness. Not for him the descent into the dust of death, but the ascent in glory, with the convoy of celestial chariots, to the throne on high. God's word for the sorrowing is, "I have seen his ways, and will heal him: I will lead him also, and restore comforts unto him and to his mourners." "I will turn their mourning into joy, and will comfort them, and make them rejoice from their sorrow." Isa. 57:18; Jer. 31:13.

    "Blessed are the meek." The difficulties we have to encounter may be very much lessened by that meekness which hides itself in Christ. If we possess the humility of our Master, we shall rise above the slights, the rebuffs, the annoyances, to which we are daily exposed, and they will cease to cast a gloom over the spirit. The highest evidence of nobility in a Christian is self-control. He who under abuse or cruelty fails to maintain a calm and trustful spirit robs God of His right to reveal in him His own perfection of character. Lowliness of heart is the strength that gives victory to the followers of Christ; it is the token of their connection with the courts above.

    "Though the Lord be high, yet hath He respect unto the lowly." Ps. 138:6. Those who reveal the meek and lowly spirit of Christ are tenderly regarded by God. They may be looked upon with scorn by the world, but they are of great value in His sight. Not only the wise, the great, the beneficent, will gain a passport to the heavenly courts; not only the busy worker, full of zeal and restless activity. No; the poor in spirit, who crave the presence of an abiding Christ, the humble in heart, whose highest ambition is to do God's will,--these will gain an abundant entrance. They will be among that number who have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. "Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple: and He that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them." Rev. 7:15.

    "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness." The sense of unworthiness will lead the heart to hunger and thirst for righteousness, and this desire will not be disappointed. Those who make room in their hearts for Jesus will realize His love. All who long to bear the likeness of the character of God shall be satisfied. The Holy Spirit never leaves unassisted the soul who is looking unto Jesus. He takes of the things of Christ and shows them unto him. If the eye is kept fixed on Christ, the work of the Spirit ceases not until the soul is conformed to His image. The pure element of love will expand the soul, giving it a capacity for higher attainments, for increased knowledge of heavenly things, so that it will not rest short of the fullness. "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness; for they shall be filled."

    The merciful shall find mercy, and the pure in heart shall see God. Every impure thought defiles the soul, impairs the moral sense, and tends to obliterate the impressions of the Holy Spirit. It dims the spiritual vision, so that men cannot behold God. The Lord may and does forgive the repenting sinner; but though forgiven, the soul is marred. All impurity of speech or of thought must be shunned by him who would have clear discernment of spiritual truth. But the words of Christ cover more than freedom from sensual impurity, more than freedom from that ceremonial defilement which the Jews so rigorously shunned. Selfishness prevents us from beholding God. The self-seeking spirit judges of God as altogether such a one as itself. Until we have renounced this, we cannot understand Him who is love. Only the unselfish heart, the humble and trustful spirit, shall see God as "merciful and gracious, long-suffering, and abundant in goodness and truth." Ex. 34:6.

    "Blessed are the peacemakers." The peace of Christ is born of truth. It is harmony with God. The world is at enmity with the law of God; sinners are at enmity with their Maker; and as a result they are at enmity with one another. But the psalmist declares, "Great peace have they which love Thy law: and nothing shall offend them." Ps. 119:165. Men cannot manufacture peace. Human plans for the purification and uplifting of individuals or of society will fail of producing peace, because they do not reach the heart. The only power that can create or perpetuate true peace is the grace of Christ. When this is implanted in the heart, it will cast out the evil passions that cause strife and dissension. "Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree;" and life's desert "shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose." Isa. 55:13; 35:1.

    The multitudes were amazed at this teaching, which was so at variance with the precepts and example of the Pharisees. The people had come to think that happiness consisted in the possession of the things of this world, and that fame and the honor of men were much to be coveted. It was very pleasing to be called "Rabbi," and to be extolled as wise and religious, having their virtues paraded before the public. This was regarded as the crown of happiness. But in the presence of that vast throng, Jesus declared that earthly gain and honor were all the reward such persons would ever receive. He spoke with certainty, and a convincing power attended His words. The people were silenced, and a feeling of fear crept over them. They looked at one another doubtfully. Who of them would be saved if this Man's teachings were true? Many were convicted that this remarkable Teacher was actuated by the Spirit of God, and that the sentiments He uttered were divine.

    After explaining what constitutes true happiness, and how it may be obtained, Jesus more definitely pointed out the duty of His disciples, as teachers chosen of God to lead others into the path of righteousness and eternal life. He knew that they would often suffer from disappointment and discouragement, that they would meet with decided opposition, that they would be insulted, and their testimony rejected. Well He knew that in the fulfillment of their mission, the humble men who listened so attentively to His words were to bear calumny, torture, imprisonment, and death, and He continued: "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for My sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you." The world loves sin, and hates righteousness, and this was the cause of its hostility to Jesus. All who refuse His infinite love will find Christianity a disturbing element. The light of Christ sweeps away the darkness that covers their sins, and the need of reform is made manifest. While those who yield to the influence of the Holy Spirit begin war with themselves, those who cling to sin war against the truth and its representatives.

    Thus strife is created, and Christ's followers are accused as troublers of the people. But it is fellowship with God that brings them the world's enmity. They are bearing the reproach of Christ. They are treading the path that has been trodden by the noblest of the earth. Not with sorrow, but with rejoicing, should they meet persecution. Each fiery trial is God's agent for their refining. Each is fitting them for their work as colaborers with Him. Each conflict has its place in the great battle for righteousness, and each will add to the joy of their final triumph. Having this in view, the test of their faith and patience will be cheerfully accepted rather than dreaded and avoided. Anxious to fulfill their obligation to the world, fixing their desire upon the approval of God, His servants are to fulfill every duty, irrespective of the fear or the favor of men.

    "Ye are the salt of the earth," Jesus said. Do not withdraw yourselves from the world in order to escape persecution. You are to abide among men, that the savor of the divine love may be as salt to preserve the world from corruption. Hearts that respond to the influence of the Holy Spirit are the channels through which God's blessing flows. Were those who serve God removed from the earth, and His Spirit withdrawn from among men, this world would be left to desolation and destruction, the fruit of Satan's dominion. Though the wicked know it not, they owe even the blessings of this life to the presence, in the world, of God's people whom they despise and oppress. But if Christians are such in name only, they are like the salt that has lost its savor. They have no influence for good in the world. Through their misrepresentation of God they are worse than unbelievers.

    "Ye are the light of the world." The Jews thought to confine the benefits of salvation to their own nation; but Christ showed them that salvation is like the sunshine. It belongs to the whole world. The religion of the Bible is not to be confined between the covers of a book, nor within the walls of a church. It is not to be brought out occasionally for our own benefit, and then to be carefully laid aside again. It is to sanctify the daily life, to manifest itself in every business transaction and in all our social relations. True character is not shaped from without, and put on; it radiates from within. If we wish to direct others in the path of righteousness, the principles of righteousness must be enshrined in our own hearts. Our profession of faith may proclaim the theory of religion, but it is our practical piety that holds forth the word of truth. The consistent life, the holy conversation, the unswerving integrity, the active, benevolent spirit, the godly example,--these are the mediums through which light is conveyed to the world.

    Jesus had not dwelt on the specifications of the law, but He did not leave His hearers to conclude that He had come to set aside its requirements. He knew that spies stood ready to seize upon every word that might be wrested to serve their purpose. He knew the prejudice that existed in the minds of many of His hearers, and He said nothing to unsettle their faith in the religion and institutions that had been committed to them through Moses. Christ Himself had given both the moral and the ceremonial law. He did not come to destroy confidence in His own instruction. It was because of His great reverence for the law and the prophets that He sought to break through the wall of traditional requirements which hemmed in the Jews. While He set aside their false interpretations of the law, He carefully guarded His disciples against yielding up the vital truths committed to the Hebrews.

    The Pharisees prided themselves on their obedience to the law; yet they knew so little of its principles through everyday practice that to them the Saviour's words sounded like heresy. As He swept away the rubbish under which the truth had been buried, they thought He was sweeping away the truth itself. They whispered to one another that He was making light of the law. He read their thoughts, and answered them, saying, "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill." Here Jesus refutes the charge of the Pharisees. His mission to the world is to vindicate the sacred claims of that law which they charge Him with breaking. If the law of God could have been changed or abrogated, then Christ need not have suffered the consequences of our transgression. He came to explain the relation of the law to man, and to illustrate its precepts by His own life of obedience.

    God has given us His holy precepts, because He loves mankind. To shield us from the results of transgression, He reveals the principles of righteousness. The law is an expression of the thought of God; when received in Christ, it becomes our thought. It lifts us above the power of natural desires and tendencies, above temptations that lead to sin. God desires us to be happy, and He gave us the precepts of the law that in obeying them we might have joy. When at Jesus' birth the angels sang, "Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace, good will toward men" (Luke 2:14), they were declaring the principles of the law which He had come to magnify and make honorable.

    When the law was proclaimed from Sinai, God made known to men the holiness of His character, that by contrast they might see the sinfulness of their own. The law was given to convict them of sin, and reveal their need of a Saviour. It would do this as its principles were applied to the heart by the Holy Spirit. This work it is still to do. In the life of Christ the principles of the law are made plain; and as the Holy Spirit of God touches the heart, as the light of Christ reveals to men their need of His cleansing blood and His justifying righteousness, the law is still an agent in bringing us to Christ, that we may be justified by faith. "The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul." Ps. 19:7.

    "Till heaven and earth pass," said Jesus, "one jot or one tittle shall in nowise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." The sun shining in the heavens, the solid earth upon which you dwell, are God's witnesses that His law is changeless and eternal. Though they may pass away, the divine precepts shall endure. "It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail." Luke 16:17. The system of types that pointed to Jesus as the Lamb of God was to be abolished at His death; but the precepts of the Decalogue are as immutable as the throne of God.

    Since "the law of the Lord is perfect," every variation from it must be evil. Those who disobey the commandments of God, and teach others to do so, are condemned by Christ. The Saviour's life of obedience maintained the claims of the law; it proved that the law could be kept in humanity, and showed the excellence of character that obedience would develop. All who obey as He did are likewise declaring that the law is "holy, and just, and good." Rom. 7:12. On the other hand, all who break God's commandments are sustaining Satan's claim that the law is unjust, and cannot be obeyed. Thus they second the deceptions of the great adversary, and cast dishonor upon God. They are the children of the wicked one, who was the first rebel against God's law. To admit them into heaven would again bring in the elements of discord and rebellion, and imperil the well-being of the universe. No man who willfully disregards one principle of the law shall enter the kingdom of heaven. The rabbis counted their righteousness a passport to heaven; but Jesus declared it to be insufficient and unworthy. External ceremonies and a theoretical knowledge of truth constituted Pharisaical righteousness. The rabbis claimed to be holy through their own efforts in keeping the law; but their works had divorced righteousness from religion. While they were punctilious in ritual observances, their lives were immoral and debased. Their so-called righteousness could never enter the kingdom of heaven.

    The greatest deception of the human mind in Christ's day was that a mere assent to the truth constitutes righteousness. In all human experience a theoretical knowledge of the truth has been proved to be insufficient for the saving of the soul. It does not bring forth the fruits of righteousness. A jealous regard for what is termed theological truth often accompanies a hatred of genuine truth as made manifest in life. The darkest chapters of history are burdened with the record of crimes committed by bigoted religionists. The Pharisees claimed to be children of Abraham, and boasted of their possession of the oracles of God; yet these advantages did not preserve them from selfishness, malignity, greed for gain, and the basest hypocrisy. They thought themselves the greatest religionists of the world, but their so-called orthodoxy led them to crucify the Lord of glory. The same danger still exists. Many take it for granted that they are Christians, simply because they subscribe to certain theological tenets. But they have not brought the truth into practical life. They have not believed and loved it, therefore they have not received the power and grace that come through sanctification of the truth. Men may profess faith in the truth; but if it does not make them sincere, kind, patient, forbearing, heavenly-minded, it is a curse to its possessors, and through their influence it is a curse to the world.

    The righteousness which Christ taught is conformity of heart and life to the revealed will of God. Sinful men can become righteous only as they have faith in God and maintain a vital connection with Him. Then true godliness will elevate the thoughts and ennoble the life. Then the external forms of religion accord with the Christian's internal purity. Then the ceremonies required in the service of God are not meaningless rites, like those of the hypocritical Pharisees. Jesus takes up the commandments separately, and explains the depth and breadth of their requirement. Instead of removing one jot of their force, He shows how far-reaching their principles are, and exposes the fatal mistake of the Jews in their outward show of obedience. He declares that by the evil thought or the lustful look the law of God is transgressed. One who becomes a party to the least injustice is breaking the law and degrading his own moral nature. Murder first exists in the mind. He who gives hatred a place in his heart is setting his feet in the path of the murderer, and his offerings are abhorrent to God.

    The Jews cultivated a spirit of retaliation. In their hatred of the Romans they gave utterance to hard denunciations, and pleased the wicked one by manifesting his attributes. Thus they were training themselves to do the terrible deeds to which he led them on. In the religious life of the Pharisees there was nothing to recommend piety to the Gentiles. Jesus bade them not to deceive themselves with the thought that they could in heart rise up against their oppressors, and cherish the longing to avenge their wrongs. It is true there is an indignation that is justifiable, even in the followers of Christ. When they see that God is dishonored, and His service brought into disrepute, when they see the innocent oppressed, a righteous indignation stirs the soul. Such anger, born of sensitive morals, is not a sin. But those who at any supposed provocation feel at liberty to indulge anger or resentment are opening the heart to Satan. Bitterness and animosity must be banished from the soul if we would be in harmony with heaven.

    The Saviour goes farther than this. He says, "If thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath aught against thee; leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift." Many are zealous in religious services, while between them and their brethren are unhappy differences which they might reconcile. God requires them to do all in their power to restore harmony. Until they do this, He cannot accept their services. The Christian's duty in this matter is clearly pointed out. God pours His blessings upon all. "He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust." He is "kind unto the unthankful and to the evil." Luke 6:35. He bids us to be like Him. "Bless them that curse you," said Jesus; "do good to them that hate you, . . . that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven." These are the principles of the law, and they are the wellsprings of life.

    God's ideal for His children is higher than the highest human thought can reach. "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." This command is a promise. The plan of redemption contemplates our complete recovery from the power of Satan. Christ always separates the contrite soul from sin. He came to destroy the works of the devil, and He has made provision that the Holy Spirit shall be imparted to every repentant soul, to keep him from sinning. The tempter's agency is not to be accounted an excuse for one wrong act. Satan is jubilant when he hears the professed followers of Christ making excuses for their deformity of character. It is these excuses that lead to sin. There is no excuse for sinning. A holy temper, a Christlike life, is accessible to every repenting, believing child of God.

    The ideal of Christian character is Christlikeness. As the Son of man was perfect in His life, so His followers are to be perfect in their life. Jesus was in all things made like unto His brethren. He became flesh, even as we are. He was hungry and thirsty and weary. He was sustained by food and refreshed by sleep. He shared the lot of man; yet He was the blameless Son of God. He was God in the flesh. His character is to be ours. The Lord says of those who believe in Him, "I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people." 2 Cor. 6:16.

    Christ is the ladder that Jacob saw, the base resting on the earth, and the topmost round reaching to the gate of heaven, to the very threshold of glory. If that ladder had failed by a single step of reaching the earth, we should have been lost. But Christ reaches us where we are. He took our nature and overcame, that we through taking His nature might overcome. Made "in the likeness of sinful flesh" (Rom. 8:3), He lived a sinless life. Now by His divinity He lays hold upon the throne of heaven, while by His humanity He reaches us. He bids us by faith in Him attain to the glory of the character of God. Therefore are we to be perfect, even as our "Father which is in heaven is perfect." Jesus had shown in what righteousness consists, and had pointed to God as its source. Now He turned to practical duties. In almsgiving, in prayer, in fasting, He said, let nothing be done to attract attention or win praise to self. Give in sincerity, for the benefit of the suffering poor. In prayer, let the soul commune with God. In fasting, go not with the head bowed down, and heart filled with thoughts of self. The heart of the Pharisee is a barren and profitless soil, in which no seeds of divine life can flourish. It is he who yields himself most unreservedly to God that will render Him the most acceptable service. For through fellowship with God men become workers together with Him in presenting His character in humanity.

    The service rendered in sincerity of heart has great recompense. "Thy Father which seeth in secret Himself shall reward thee openly." By the life we live through the grace of Christ the character is formed. The original loveliness begins to be restored to the soul. The attributes of the character of Christ are imparted, and the image of the Divine begins to shine forth. The faces of men and women who walk and work with God express the peace of heaven. They are surrounded with the atmosphere of heaven. For these souls the kingdom of God has begun. They have Christ's joy, the joy of being a blessing to humanity. They have the honor of being accepted for the Master's use; they are trusted to do His work in His name. "No man can serve two masters." We cannot serve God with a divided heart. Bible religion is not one influence among many others; its influence is to be supreme, pervading and controlling every other. It is not to be like a dash of color brushed here and there upon the canvas, but it is to pervade the whole life, as if the canvas were dipped into the color, until every thread of the fabric were dyed a deep, unfading hue.

    "If therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness." Purity and steadfastness of purpose are the conditions of receiving light from God. He who desires to know the truth must be willing to accept all that it reveals. He can make no compromise with error. To be wavering and halfhearted in allegiance to truth is to choose the darkness of error and satanic delusion. Worldly policy and the undeviating principles of righteousness do not blend into each other imperceptibly, like the colors of the rainbow. Between the two a broad, clear line is drawn by the eternal God. The likeness of Christ stands out as distinct from that of Satan as midday in contrast with midnight. And only those who live the life of Christ are His co-workers. If one sin is cherished in the soul, or one wrong practice retained in the life, the whole being is contaminated. The man becomes an instrument of unrighteousness.

    All who have chosen God's service are to rest in His care. Christ pointed to the birds flying in the heavens, to the flowers of the field, and bade His hearers consider these objects of God's creation. "Are not ye of much more value than they?" He said. Matt. 6:26, R. V. The measure of divine attention bestowed on any object is proportionate to its rank in the scale of being. The little brown sparrow is watched over by Providence. The flowers of the field, the grass that carpets the earth, share the notice and care of our heavenly Father. The great Master Artist has taken thought for the lilies, making them so beautiful that they outshine the glory of Solomon. How much more does He care for man, who is the image and glory of God. He longs to see His children reveal a character after His similitude. As the sunbeam imparts to the flowers their varied and delicate tints, so does God impart to the soul the beauty of His own character. All who choose Christ's kingdom of love and righteousness and peace, making its interest paramount to all other, are linked to the world above, and every blessing needed for this life is theirs. In the book of God's providence, the volume of life, we are each given a page. That page contains every particular of our history; even the hairs of the head are numbered. God's children are never absent from His mind.

    "Be not therefore anxious for the morrow." Matt. 6:34, R. V. We are to follow Christ day by day. God does not bestow help for tomorrow. He does not give His children all the directions for their life journey at once, lest they should become confused. He tells them just as much as they can remember and perform. The strength and wisdom imparted are for the present emergency. "If any of you lack wisdom,"--for today,--"let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him." James 1:5.

    "Judge not, that ye be not judged." Do not think yourself better than other men, and set yourself up as their judge. Since you cannot discern motive, you are incapable of judging another. In criticizing him, you are passing sentence upon yourself; for you show that you are a participant with Satan, the accuser of the brethren. The Lord says, "Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves." This is our work. "If we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged." 2 Cor. 13:5; 1 Cor. 11:31.

    The good tree will produce good fruit. If the fruit is unpalatable and worthless, the tree is evil. So the fruit borne in the life testifies as to the condition of the heart and the excellence of the character. Good works can never purchase salvation, but they are an evidence of the faith that acts by love and purifies the soul. And though the eternal reward is not bestowed because of our merit, yet it will be in proportion to the work that has been done through the grace of Christ. Thus Christ set forth the principles of His kingdom, and showed them to be the great rule of life. To impress the lesson He adds an illustration. It is not enough, He says, for you to hear My words. By obedience you must make them the foundation of your character. Self is but shifting sand. If you build upon human theories and inventions, your house will fall. By the winds of temptation, the tempests of trial, it will be swept away. But these principles that I have given will endure. Receive Me; build on My words.

    "Everyone therefore which heareth these words of Mine, and doeth them, shall be likened unto a wise man, which built his house upon the rock: and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon the rock." Matt. 7:24, 25, R.V.


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    PLEASE CONSIDER READING THE FOLLOWING TEXT OUT-LOUD - WHILE LISTENING TO A LATIN MASS - EACH AND EVERY DAY - AS A MENTAL AND SPIRITUAL EXERCISE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enWiFcsBqIE&feature=related

    WE THE PEOPLE OF EARTH are determined to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, and to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from the Constitution of the United States of the Solar System can be maintained, and to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom. To practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and to unite our strength to maintain interplanetary peace and security, and to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and to employ interplanetary machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples.

    Recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world. Disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people. It is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law. It is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between Member States. We the people of Earth have reaffirmed our faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom. Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in co-operation with the United States of the Solar System the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms. A common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance.

    Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...in the context of The United States of the Solar System...is a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all Member States, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping these principles, concepts, and documents constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, interstate and interplanetary, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance among the peoples of Member States.

    All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood. Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms inherent in the United States of the Solar System, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, territorial or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political or jurisdictional status of the Member State to which a person belongs.

    Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person. No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms. No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law. All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination. Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent Member State tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.

    No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile. Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him. Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence. No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under state or interplanetary law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.

    No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks. Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each Member State. Everyone has the right to leave any Member State, and to return. Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other Member States asylum from persecution. This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United States of the Solar System. Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

    Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, state or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution. Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses. The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

    Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance. Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association. No one may be compelled to belong to an association.

    Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his state, directly or through freely chosen representatives. Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his Member State. The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures. Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through state effort and interplanetary co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each Member State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

    Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment. Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work. Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection. Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests. Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay. Everyone has the right to work to achieve a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control. Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

    Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit. Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all Member States, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United States of the Solar System for the maintenance of peace. Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.

    Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits. Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author. Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible. In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society. These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United States of the Solar System.

    We, the People of Earth, extend greetings to all races in the Greater Community of the Universe. We acknowledge our common heritage before the Creator of all the Universe, both visible and invisible. We declare the planet Earth as our sacred inheritance. We pledge henceforth to sustain and preserve the Earth for all generations to come. We call upon all humanity to treat all races everywhere with wisdom and justice, here on Earth and throughout the Universe.

    We, the People of Earth, regard the need for freedom to be universal. Therefore, we hold that all individuals in all worlds are created equal and are endowed by the Creator with sacred and inalienable rights. Fundamental among these are the right to live as a free race; the right of self-determination, self-sufficiency, and creative expression; the right to life without oppression; and the right to pursue in life a higher purpose and a higher calling that the Creator has provided to all.

    Before the Greater Community of the Universe, we, the People of Earth, do now invoke these fundamental rights for ourselves, along with certain rights that naturally derive from them, including:

    -The right of sovereignty. The People of Earth shall be self-governed and independent, neither subject to nor dependent upon any other authority. No extraterrestrial force shall contravene or abrogate the human sovereignty of this planet.

    -The right of planetary sanctity. Earth shall be free from extraterrestrial intervention, intrusion, interference, or exploitation, both mental and physical. No extraterrestrial force shall make close approach, or assume close orbit, or make any landing, or engage in trade, except openly and with the expressed consent of the People of Earth achieved through a democratic means.

    -The right of sanctity of biological and genetic material. No extraterrestrial power shall take, possess, or manipulate human biological or genetic material for any purpose whatsoever.

    -The right of occupation. We the People of Earth claim this Solar System as our sphere of influence. No extraterrestrial bases may be established on bodies or stations orbiting the Earth, nor on other planets or bodies of this Solar System, except with the expressed consent of the People of Earth.

    -The right of peaceful navigation. We claim the right to travel and explore within our Solar System without interference or restraint from extraterrestrial forces, and maintain the right to deny access to this Solar System by any extraterrestrial forces.

    We, the People of Earth, consider it our rightful responsibility to assert and defend these fundamental rights, and to give and receive aid consistent with these rights.

    When in the course of their evolution it becomes necessary for the native people of a planet to unite, to transcend the conflicts and differences that have separated them from one another, and to assume among the powers of the Universe a separate and equal sovereignty, a respectful consideration of that sovereignty requires that they declare the causes which impel them to this present course of action.

    Although the Earth has undergone a long history of extraterrestrial visitation, the current situation is that the People of Earth are now suffering the effects of a global extraterrestrial intervention into human affairs. This intervention employs a strategy of deception, manipulation, and exploitation, the goal of which is control over humanity, which will result in the loss of human freedom and self-determination. It is now the sacred right and duty of the People of Earth to oppose, resist, and repel this extraterrestrial intervention, to declare and defend our sovereignty, our freedom, and our independence from all extraterrestrial forces.

    Let these violations be considered by those supporting the cause of freedom throughout the Greater Community:

    -Intervening extraterrestrial forces have refused to openly disclose and reveal the nature and intent of their activities on and around Earth. This extraterrestrial presence is clandestine, covert, uninvited, and unapproved by the People of Earth. These extraterrestrial forces have concealed their own identity, their political or economic alliances and allegiances, as well as the authorities and powers which they serve.

    -As is becoming increasingly apparent from their actions, extraterrestrial forces intend to exploit the Earth, its resources, and its people, and are engaged in a systematic program of colonizing humanity into a subservient client state to be ruled by agents of these extraterrestrial forces. The extraterrestrial intervention and occupation seeks commercial gain, economic power, and the strategic advantage offered by this world in relation to other worlds.

    -Extraterrestrial forces have repeatedly and with impunity violated national and international laws of the Earth’s people. These offenses, which still continue today, have included violation of restricted airspace; abduction and transportation of humans without their consent; murder, rape, torture, sexual abuse, interbreeding with humans, and cruel experimentation; theft and trade of human biological and genetic materials; theft and trade of Earth’s natural resources; covert mental and psychological influence; mutilation of humans and animals; tampering with and disabling of military defense systems; and clandestine infiltration into human society.

    -Extraterrestrial forces have secretly negotiated treaties and agreements with human individuals and groups, without the informed consent of the People of Earth.

    -Extraterrestrial forces have systematically attempted to persuade and mislead humans through extending false hopes and promises of wealth, power, and protection; rescue from planetary catastrophe; membership in a “galactic federation”; and spiritual salvation and enlightenment.

    -Extraterrestrial forces have exploited and exacerbated human conflicts to serve their own ends.

    -Extraterrestrial forces have been disempowering humanity by leading us to believe that we can only survive with their help and their advanced technology, thus fostering our complete dependence upon them and denying our ability to ensure our own survival.

    Accordingly, we, the People of Earth, do hereby declare all previously existing agreements or treaties between any human government, group, or individual and any extraterrestrials to be forthwith null, void, and permanently suspended. We demand that any such previously existing treaties or agreements be fully and publicly disclosed. Any future agreements or treaties between human governments, groups, or individuals and extraterrestrials must be negotiated only with the full consent of the People of Earth, publicly and openly expressed by an international democratic body representing the nations and peoples of Earth.

    We demand that all extraterrestrials now cease all operations and activities and immediately vacate and depart from the Earth and its surroundings including the Sun, Earth’s Moon, and all planets of this Solar System. This includes vacating any natural or artificial satellites, as well as all space within the Solar System.

    We demand that all extraterrestrial organizations who have established or operated bases on the Earth, its Moon, or anywhere else within this Solar System, to vacate these bases, and fully disclose their nature. These bases should then be used to defend the Solar System.

    We further demand that all living humans who are now in custody of extraterrestrials be returned immediately in good health; further, we demand a full accounting of all humans who have been taken or held by extraterrestrials, including those who have died in captivity. In addition, we demand that all human biological or genetic materials taken from any individuals be accounted for and destroyed, and their intended use be identified. Any devices implanted in living individuals must be identified so that they may be safely removed.

    We demand full public disclosure of the purpose and details of the extraterrestrial hybridization program, including the location, identity, and activities of all living human-extraterrestrial hybrids, whether on Earth or elsewhere.

    Be it known throughout the Universe that from this time forward, extraterrestrials may only enter our Solar System, approach our Earth, fly in our skies, set foot on our soil, or enter our waters with the explicit consent of the People of Earth.

    We, therefore, do solemnly declare that the People of Earth are and should be a free and independent people; that all humans are hereby absolved from all allegiance to extraterrestrial powers, and that all political and economic connections between them and the People of Earth are totally dissolved; that as a free and sovereign race in the Greater Community of the Universe, we assume full power within this Solar System to conclude peace, levy war, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to undertake all other actions which a sovereign planetary race may rightfully and ethically do.

    Let it be understood that in making this Declaration of Human Sovereignty, we, the People of Earth, affirm our future and destiny as a free race within a Greater Community of intelligent life. We recognize that we are a part of this Greater Community and that we are destined over time to encounter many different races from beyond our world.

    To them and to all others, we hereby declare that our intention is not conquest or domination in space. We declare that the rights and privileges that we affirm here for ourselves, we also affirm for all races of beings whom we might encounter.

    In making our Declaration of Human Sovereignty, we proclaim our rights, responsibilities, and privileges as a free race in order that we may pursue greater unity, peace, and cooperation within the human family without unwanted or unwarranted intrusion and interference by any outside nation or force from the Greater Community. We make this proclamation as an expression of our Divine right and honorable intent for the human family and for all races in the Universe who seek to be free.

    We the People of Earth desire the following Church Reforms: To replace Canon Law with the Teachings of Jesus. To institute a Modified Latin Mass (with no communion - emphasizing the remembrance of Christ and His Teachings - rather than His Sacrifice) - offering Masses seven days a week - with no preference regarding the day or days of attendance. To base All Homilies, Theology, and Ritual Upon the Teachings of Jesus. To eliminate Penance and Confession (replacing both with psychological and spiritual counseling). To allow Women to be Priests and Popes. To allow Priests and Popes to Marry (and to eliminate all blasphemous titles). To eliminate Most Crucifixes (The bloody, dying, and mostly naked Jesus should not be paraded and displayed. To remove most and clothe most of the rest. Obviously, stained-glass windows, and such, should mostly be left alone). To be Completely Honest Regarding the History of the Church, the World, the Solar System, the Galaxy, and the Universe. To institute a Program of Responsible Reproduction (lifting the ban on birth-control). To base Civil and Church Governance on the U.S. Constitution.

    We the People of Earth desire the following Solar System Reforms: TO BASE THIS SOLAR SYSTEM UPON RESPONSIBILITY AND THE U.S. CONSTITUTION. TO MAINTAIN AN EARTH HUMAN POPULATION OF FOUR BILLION (TWO BILLION SURFACE - TWO BILLION SUBSURFACE) AND FOUR BILLION THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM (MOSTLY SUBSURFACE). TO BASE PHYSICAL, MENTAL, AND SPIRITUAL HEALTH UPON PREVENTION. TO MAINTAIN A PRISTINE ENVIRONMENT. TO USE ELECTRICAL POWER FOR NEARLY EVERYTHING, AND UTILIZE MAGNETO-LEVITON TRAINS FOR MOST GLOBAL TRANSPORTATION.

    The Holy Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ according to Matthew.

    Matthew 5: 1 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set , his disciples came unto him: 2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying , 3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 4 Blessed are they that mourn : for they shall be comforted . 5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. 6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled . 7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy . 8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. 9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. 10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are ye , when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely , for my sake . 12 Rejoice , and be exceeding glad : for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. 13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour , wherewith shall it be salted ? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. 14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid . 15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. 16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy , but to fulfil . 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass , one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled . 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. 21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill ; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say , Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. 23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; 24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way ; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

    25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. 26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing. 27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery : 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. 29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out , and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish , and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. 30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off , and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish , and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. 31 It hath been said , Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: 32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery : and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery . 33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself , but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: 34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: 35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool : neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37 But let your communication be , Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil. 38 Ye have heard that it hath been said , An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law , and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away . 43 Ye have heard that it hath been said , Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye ? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

    Matthew 6: 1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven. 2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. 3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth : 4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly . 5 And when thou prayest , thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you , They have their reward. 6 But thou, when thou prayest , enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly . 7 But when ye pray , use not vain repetitions , as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. 8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him. 9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come . Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. 14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. 16 Moreover when ye fast , be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast . Verily I say unto you , They have their reward. 17 But thou, when thou fastest , anoint thine head, and wash thy face; 18 That thou appear not unto men to fast , but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly . 19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt , and where thieves break through and steal : 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt , and where thieves do not break through nor steal : 21 For where your treasure is , there will your heart be also. 22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. 23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! 24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. 25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat , or what ye shall drink ; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on . Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? 26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap , nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? 27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? 28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow ; they toil not, neither do they spin : 29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is , and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? 31 Therefore take no thought , saying , What shall we eat ? or, What shall we drink ? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed ? 32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek :) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. 34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

    Matthew 7: 1 Judge not, that ye be not judged . 2 For with what judgment ye judge , ye shall be judged : and with what measure ye mete , it shall be measured to you again . 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold , a beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. 6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. 7 Ask , and it shall be given you; seek , and ye shall find ; knock , and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth ; and he that seeketh findeth ; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened . 9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? 10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? 11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him? 12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. 13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat : 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits . Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down , and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them , I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended , and the floods came , and the winds blew , and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended , and the floods came , and the winds blew , and beat upon that house; and it fell : and great was the fall of it.
    28 And it came to pass , when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine: 29 For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

    The Gospel of the Lord.

    Seven score and five years ago, a great American signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity. But one hundred forty-five years later, the Human Race still is not free. One hundred forty-five years later, the lives of Human Beings are still sadly crippled by the manacles of greed and the chains of fear. One hundred forty-five years later, Humanity lives on a lonely island of quiet desperation in the midst of a vast ocean of nearly seven billion souls. One hundred forty-five years later, Humanity is still languishing in the corners of global society and finds itself an exile on its own planet.

    And so today...I have determined to dramatize a shameful condition. In a sense...I've come to our religious and political leaders to cash a check. When the architects of the American constitutional republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all people would be guaranteed the "Inalienable Rights" of "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness." America was to be a city on a hill...to illuminate the rest of the world with Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given We the People of Earth a bad check, a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds." But I refuse to believe that America...and the rest of the world...is morally bankrupt. I refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds. And so, I've determined to cash this check...a check that will give Humanity...upon demand...the riches of freedom and the security of justice.

    I have also determined to remind the world of the fierce urgency of Now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of nationalism and protectionism. Now is the time to lift our world from the quicksands of war and hate...to the solid rock of brotherhood and sisterhood. Now is the time to make Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom a reality for all of God's children. It would be fatal for We the People of Earth to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering summer of Humanity's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. 2012 will not be the end...but a beginning. And those who hope that the patriots and conspiracy theorists needed to blow off steam and will now be content...will have a rude awakening if the world returns to business as usual. And there will be neither rest nor tranquility in the world until Humanity is granted it's citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our world until the bright day of justice emerges.

    But there is something that I must say to We the People of Earth...who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice: In the process of gaining our rightful place in the universe...we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again, we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force. The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed Humanity must not lead us to a distrust of all of the Powers That Be...for many of them have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny. And they have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom. We cannot walk alone. And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead.

    We cannot turn back.

    There are those who are asking the devotees of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom, "When will you be satisfied?" We can never be satisfied as long as any Human Being is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of brutality and starvation. We can never be satisfied as long as our bodies and minds are racked with the pain and horror of war. We cannot be satisfied as long as our children are stripped of their self-hood and robbed of their dignity by being taught violence, lies, and immorality. We cannot be satisfied as long as the will of We the people of Earth is not taken seriously...and followed. No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until "justice rolls down like waters, and righteousness like a mighty stream."

    I am not unmindful that some of you have encountered great trials and tribulations. Some of you have come fresh from narrow jail cells. And some of you have come from areas where your quest -- quest for freedom left you battered by the storms of persecution and staggered by the winds of brutality. You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive. Know that somehow this situation can and will be changed. Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends. And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream. I have a dream that one day this world will rise up and live out the true meaning of the creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal." I have a dream that one day...the elites and the general public will sit down together at the table of brotherhood and sisterhood. I have a dream that one day...even the Deep Underground Military Bases will be transformed into an oasis of openness and transparency. I have a dream that one day...We the People of Earth will not be judged by our fame, fortune, and power...but by the content of our characters. I have a dream today! I have a dream that one day the little boys and little girls of the world...will be able to join hands...as Citizens of Earth. I have a dream today! I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; "and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together." This is our hope...and Earth is our home.

    With this faith, we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith, we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our world into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood and sisterhood. With this faith, we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day. And this will be the day -- this will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with new meaning: My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died, land of the Pilgrim's pride. From every mountainside, let freedom ring! If America is to be a great nation...this must become true. If Earth is to be a great planet...this must become true. And so let freedom ring from Washington D.C. Let freedom ring from the United Nations. Let freedom ring from the City of London. Let freedom ring from the Vatican. Let freedom ring thoughout the Secret Government. But not only that: Let freedom ring from the Georgia Guidestones. Let freedom ring from the Secret Space Program throughout the Solar System. Let freedom ring from every Deep Underground Military Base. Let freedom ring from the Sea of Tranquility. From every Planet of the Solar System...let freedom ring. And when this happens, when we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every planet, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, of all races, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!

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