Hello, i am interested in others opinions on how to distinguish between suffering due to karma and otherwise.How do we know when we have paid our debt/learned our lesson and what if we feel we cant take anymore.Thanks
seekeroftruth wrote:Hello, i am interested in others opinions on how to distinguish between suffering due to karma and otherwise.How do we know when we have paid our debt/learned our lesson and what if we feel we cant take anymore.Thanks
This would make a great thread.
While I speak about Karma in some of my posts, I am not even sure if it is real. It is more of a generic phrase to me for some unseen psychic bat that can hit ya up the side of the head for doing bad/stupid things. Some do not think so.
Long ago I mentioned that Wayne Dyer had a huge influence on shifting me away form religion. He says there is no karma and not to get caught up in thinking about any cosmic debts that may be owed. Basically, whatever we believe, we are absolutely right.
Welcome to the Mists, and my best to you with finding your truth.
Words and thoughts are charged with energy.
"Abraham" reminded us that even though we have the power now quickly to manifest things, also we have the power to reverse them immediately.
Troy
Oh: Wayne might suggest to focus on being a finder of truth...
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Do what Thy will, but create no harm for what you do will come back to you...
I remember a quote where someone said.. You get everything you deserve...
That works best when said in a sarcastic manner (for me).
I met an old-school queen when I was 19 (he introduced me to Gregg, actually). His name was Bill, and I borrowed that from him.
With a totally straight face he would look at someone who might be upset with him, and say, "You know, all I ever wanted is for you to get everything that you deserve". lol
Then I could hear him laughing like Uncle Arthur from Bewitched as he walked away. Yep. I worked in a group home with someone who could have been in the center square on Hollywood Squares. :op
I digress, as per usual.
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Do what Thy will, but create no harm for what you do will come back to you...
I remember a quote where someone said.. You get everything you deserve...
That works best when said in a sarcastic manner (for me).
I met an old-school queen when I was 19 (he introduced me to Gregg, actually). His name was Bill, and I borrowed that from him.
With a totally straight face he would look at someone who might be upset with him, and say, "You know, all I ever wanted is for you to get everything that you deserve". lol
Then I could hear him laughing like Uncle Arthur from Bewitched as he walked away. Yep. I worked in a group home with someone who could have been in the center box on Hollywood Squares. :op
I digress, as per usual.
Well said.
Karma is coming to an end. The Cosmos is generous. All is allowed, anything actually. Just remember it all comes back to you.. That's very generous I think.. (and fair).
Hello, Thankyou for your reply,if we wish to unmanifest a situation as you say "Abraham" taught how is it done,i do not feel i can continue going around in circles for the rest of this life.Arent good intentions powerful enough?
seekeroftruth wrote:Hello, Thankyou for your reply,if we wish to unmanifest a situation as you say "Abraham" taught how is it done,i do not feel i can continue going around in circles for the rest of this life.Arent good intentions powerful enough?
At best I hope so, but I do not know so. You may benefit from some of the writing of Brook and Lionhawk.
I question any channeled information, especially if people charge for it.
Brook speaks also to how we can twist the messages from astral realms around (180 turnaround): we process everything through 3D brains, but even this news is filtered via 3D.
Be careful should you opt to dip into the well of new age consumerism.
If good intentions were enough I could say I was in a better space, so...I do not know.
I am sort of getting jaded and increasingly convinced that while keeping our eye on the prize is important (just what is the prize?), it takes also a lot of really hard work and determination.
Hopefully someone here can do justice to your question.
What was that saying about the road to hell being paved with good intentions? Then again, there can be value in looking into "core beliefs", such as this, in general.
Wish I could do more...this newbie leaves it to the experts. I can focus the energy from my heart toward you, however.
As for me, I am just taking different paths...
I am back at the beginning -- the journey of the fool or the hero? Both?
seekeroftruth wrote:Hello, Thank you for your reply,if we wish to unmanifest a situation as you say "Abraham" taught how is it done,i do not feel i can continue going around in circles for the rest of this life.Arent good intentions powerful enough?
An ancient inscription is legendarily ascribed to the Egyptian Ibisgod Thoth (also sometimes identified with some archcherubimic character called Metatron) and is supposedly his hieroglyphic legacy left as a testimonial in the Great Pyramid of Cheops or Khufu. It was translated ages ago by German archaeologists and exists as a prototype in the 'Amphitheatrum Sapientae Aeternae of Heinrich Khunrath', the 'Amphitheatre of Eternal Wisdom' and is dated to 1609. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Khunrath
Verba secretorum hermetis!
[1] Verum sine menda cio certum & verissimum, quod est inferi est sicut quod est superius & quod est superius est sicut quod est inferius; ad peristranda miracula rei uni. [2] Et sicut omnes res fuerunt ab uno, meditatione unius, sic omnes res nuta fuerunt ab hac una adaptatione. [3] Pater ei, est sol, mater eius luna, portavit illud ventus in ventre. [4] Suo nutrix eius terra est. [5] Pater omnis talismi toti mundi. [6] Est hic vis ei. [7] Integra est sive fuerit in terram separabis terram ab igne, subtile & spisso, suaviter cum magno ingenio. [8] Ascendit terra in coelum, iterumque descendit in terram & recipit vim superiorum & inferiorum. [9] Sic habebis gloriam toti mundi. [10] Ideo fugi atite omnis obscuritas. [11] Hic est totius fortitudinis fortitudo fortis. [12] Quia vincet omnem rem subtilem, omnem que solidam penetrabit. [13] Sic mundus creatus est. [14] Hinc erunt adaptationes mirabilis quarum modus hic est. [15] Itaque vocatus sum Hermes Trismegistus, habens tres partes philosophie totis mundi. [16] Completum est quod dixi de operatione solis.
Mercurius Trismegistus in Pimandro.
Das Wort des geheimnisvollen Boten
[1] Wahrhaftig, keiner Lügen bewusst und auf das aller wahrhaftigste; das Unten ist dem Oben gleich und das Obere is dasselbe als da Untere; damit kann man das wunderbare eines einzigen Dinges erlangen und verrichten. [2] Und wie alle Dinge durch die Wahl eines einzigen Wesens erschaffen sind, werden alle Dinge durch das Denken eines Einzigen mit dem Einen durch Schickung und Gebot wieder zusammengefügt. [3] Die Sonne ist sein Vater und der Mond ist seine Mutter, der Wind hat ihn in seinem Bauch getragen. [4] Seine Ernährerin oder Amme ist die Erde. [5] Dieser ist der Vater aller Vollkommenheit dieser ganzen Welt. [6] Seine Macht ist vollkommen. [7] Wenn Es in der Erde verwandelt wird, dann wird das Erdreich vom Feuer scheiden und das Feine vom Groben; ganz lieblich mit grosser Bescheidenheit und Verstand. [8] Er steigt von der Erde in den Himmel und vom Himmel wieder zur Erde zurück und gewinnt so die Kraft des Oberen und des Unteren. [9] Auf diese Weise wird all die Herrlichkeit der ganzen Welt erhalten. [10] Deshalb versetze von Dir allen Unverstand und Unvermögenheit. [11] Das ist von aller Stärke die stärkste Stärke. [12] Dann kann das übriggebliebene Subtile gewonnen und das alte, harte Gewand durchdrungen werden. [13] Also ist die Welt geschaffen. [14] Daher geschehen seltsame Vereinigungen und deshalb werden mancherlei Wunder gewirkt. [15] Und sei darum gesund, Hermes Trismegistus, Besitzer der dreiteiligen Weisheit von der ganzen Welt. [16] Er wird alles erfüllen, was ich gesagt habe, vom Werke der Sonnen.
Merkur, der dreifach Grosse, in Pimandro.
The Emerald Tablet of the Secret Messenger
[1] Truly, without fault and in all certainty and truthfulness; what is below is like what is above and the above is the same as the below, for the purpose to experience and bring about the wonders of the one thing. [2] And as all things are created through the choosing of one being; so the thinking of one with the one, brings all things by command and fate together again. [3] His father is the sun and his mother is the moon; the wind has carried him in his womb. [4] He is joined together and nursed by the earth. [5] This is the father of all completeness of the entire world. [6] His power is all inclusive. [7] At the time of its renewal, the soil shall separate from the fire and the subtle from the rough, acting sweetly and with great ingenuity. [8] He ascends sagaciously from the earth into heaven and then descends again into the earth, thus regaining the unifying force of the above and the below. [9] In this way is all the glory of all the worlds obtained. [10] Therefore avoid all ignorance. [11] Herein is found in all strenght the strongest strength. [12] By this can the remaining subtle whole be won and the old solid whole be penetrated. [13] Thus is the creation of the world. [14] Henceforth the eventuation of strange adaptations by extraordinary methods. [15] Accordingly be well, Hermes Trismegistos, keeper of the tripartite wisdom of the unified worlds. [16] He will accomplish that of which I have spoken through the operations of the suns.
Mercury, the thrice-great, in Pimandro.
So who is this Hermes Trismegistos? It is the archetype for the 'Teacher of Righteousness'. Right throughout the ages of humankind, there have been sages, soothsayers, prophets and mystics of all kinds; some sincere and others praying on the superstitions and the gullibilities of the general members of the population.
One remembers the Naassenes; an early Christian Gnostic sect and closely associated with Jesus-Yeshuah. Then by implication of 'Abraham the Jew' and Vitruvius per Leonardo da Vinci ake Purushu aka 'Cosmic Man', the SeekerofTruth as Adam Kadmon of Kabbalah.
Luke 16 (KJV) 1And he said also unto his disciples, There was a certain rich man, which had a steward; and the same was accused unto him that he had wasted his goods. 2And he called him, and said unto him, How is it that I hear this of thee? give an account of thy stewardship; for thou mayest be no longer steward. 3Then the steward said within himself, What shall I do? for my lord taketh away from me the stewardship: I cannot dig; to beg I am ashamed. 4I am resolved what to do, that, when I am put out of the stewardship, they may receive me into their houses. 5So he called every one of his lord's debtors unto him, and said unto the first, How much owest thou unto my lord? 6And he said, An hundred measures of oil. And he said unto him, Take thy bill, and sit down quickly, and write fifty. 7Then said he to another, And how much owest thou? And he said, An hundred measures of wheat. And he said unto him, Take thy bill, and write fourscore. 8And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light. 9And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations. 10He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much. 11If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches? 12And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man's, who shall give you that which is your own? 13No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. 14And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him. 15And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God. 16The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. 17And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail. 18Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
19There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. 27Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
22 of the Resurrection/Victory with 23 of the Wisdom of the Pyramid with the 24 of the XCross of the Ankh of Immortality 22+23+24=23+23+23=69=96
GOT (Lambdin): (52) His disciples said to him, "Twenty-four prophets spoke in Israel, and all of them spoke in you." He said to them, "You have omitted the one living in your presence and have spoken (only) of the dead."
(67) Jesus said, "If one who knows the all still feels a personal deficiency, he is completely deficient."
(68) Jesus said, "Blessed are you when you are hated and persecuted. Wherever you have been persecuted they will find no place."
(69) Jesus said, "Blessed are they who have been persecuted within themselves. It is they who have truly come to know the father. Blessed are the hungry, for the belly of him who desires will be filled."
(96) Jesus said, "The kingdom of the father is like a certain woman. She took a little leaven, concealed it in some dough, and made it into large loaves. Let him who has ears hear."
malletzky wrote:I just noticed that a member called Futureyes registered today and I realy hope it is THE Futureyes we all know from Avalon
Welcome dear...
Much respect Malletzky
There can't be 2 futureyes . I gave her the link to the Mists a year ago. Who knows Mal ... would be great would'nt it ? Avalon rising Welcome to You futureyes . Make yourself comfortable sister.
and I realy hope it is 
THE Futureyes 
we all know from Avalon 
