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    Post  Sanicle Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:48 pm

    From: http://rt.com/news/libya-oil-gaddafi-arab/

    ‘The West is to be forgotten. We will not give them our oil’ - Gaddafi

    Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi dismissed his Western partners in an exclusive interview to RT, saying he will give all the country’s oil contracts to Russia, China and India.

    “We do not believe the West any longer, that is why we invite Russian, Chinese and Indian companies to invest in Libya’s oil and construction spheres” Gaddafi told RT in an exclusive interview about how he sees the current situation in Libya and the international reaction to events there.

    "He condemned the Western powers, saying Germany was the only country with a chance of doing business with Libyan oil in the future. “We do not trust their firms – they took part in the conspiracy against us."

    The Libyan leader also added that as far as he is concerned, the Arab League has ceased to exist since it stood up against his country.

    According to Gaddafi, the recent upheavals in his country were a "minor event" planned by Al Qaeda that will soon end.

    Meanwile, Libyan Deputy Foreign Minister Khaled Kaim promised that Libya will honor all current oil contracts with Western oil companies, but that the ongoing crisis in the country could affect future cooperation. Due to the ongoing violence, foreign oil companies have stopped production in Libya and evacuated their personnel from the country.

    Speaking about France – the only country to recognize the rebel Libyan National Council as the country’s legitimate government and to call for targeted airstrikes – Gaddafi said “his good friend" French President Nicolas Sarkozy has "gone mad and is suffering from a mental disorder.”

    You may watch the exclusive interview of Muammar Gaddafi in full later on RT and RT.com
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    Post  mudra Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:41 am

    Hana El-Gallal: 'He will kill everyone. Do something. Please...'

    With forces approaching, one rebel voice makes a plea to the West

    Thursday, 17 March 2011


    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/hana-elgallal-he-will-kill-everyone-do-something-please-2244162.html

    The global community must act to stop Gaddafi and his forces reaching Benghazi. If he gets here, he will kill everyone. We in Benghazi, in what is left of Free Libya, have a very simple message for the Security Council. Please, do something. We are desperate for your help and you must do it now. It is the time to act and if you don't there will be genocide. We are called rebels, but we are not rebels. We are a people that simply wants the same freedoms and liberties enjoyed by the people in the West. For 42 years, one man and his family have denied the people of Libya their dignity.

    Whenever he gets to Benghazi, he will deny us our lives too.

    Days ago, a no-fly zone could have been imposed and that would have helped. It would still help, but now it may be too late. Even so, it is not too late to help to stop him reaching us.

    There are soldiers here, willing to fight for us, but we have no weapons. We are walking around gathering up what we can use to defend ourselves. I am a mother, not a member of al-Qa'ida; not a mujahideen. But when Gaddafi gets to Benghazi, I will have to be a fighter, not only to defend myself and my family, but also to defend the dignity of a people who have told the tyrant that has raped our country to go.

    The world needs to know this will not happen unless we get help. We are a brave people and we will fight. But we will also lose without the help of the rest of the world. And if the international community does not act, it will remain of the conscience of the people that did nothing. China, with your riches; America, with your power; Europe, with your history – you will all be guilty of standing aside and letting Gaddafi massacre his innocent people. We did not want to fight, but we were forced to, and now, in our moment of need, we are calling for the world to come together and defend us from this evil man. It has been said the Libyan people do not want foreign troops on our soil, but which country does? Now it is too late for these arguments. Libya is not Iraq: it is full of desperate people and if the international community decides to send its armies, they will be greeted with joy; a joy that will replace what is now a growing sense of hopelessness.

    We pray that our brothers and sisters can hold Ajdabiya. Gaddafi says that he has taken the town, but we know that our friends are still fighting for their lives, even if we know in our hearts that they won't be able to hold on forever without assistance. And when Ajdabiya falls, there is then nothing to stop Gaddafi and his thugs reaching us here in Benghazi. We are all so frightened of what he will do when he gets here. We are all going to die.

    We are all desperately waiting for the UN, or Nato, or the EU or anyone to act. Even the Arab League has called for action – what more of an invitation do people want? It the first time that the Arab League has called for action against one of its members: we have heard the call, but God knows that we have to see the action. We all know intervening in the affairs of another state is a controversial act. The world was sick when it released that inaction led to the deaths of thousands in Rwanda; the world said "never again". That was only 15 years ago and, without urgent action, what happened in Rwanda will be repeated on the streets of Benghazi, maybe as soon as tomorrow.

    We have all heard the speeches of Gaddafi and his sons: does the international community really believe that we are al-Qa'ida and on drugs? It will know that answer soon enough when, after Gaddafi reaches Benghazi, the pictures of our murdered children are shown around the world.

    Hana El-Gallal is a law professor from Benghazi

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    Post  Carol Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:44 am

    First off, the US does not need Libya's oil or anyone's oil in the MidEast as according to Lindsey Wagner the US has it's own oil, has always had it's own oil, and could have paid off it's national debt with its own oil. The problem is that U.S. globalists/oil cabal has had a strangle hold on the U.S. government and policies since the days of Kissinger when he/they set up the double cross for the MidEast. AND oil should/needs to belong to people of THE NATION as a National Resource, NOT to any one company or individual. All of the people should benefit and all the protections put in place if oil is to be used as a product. It's like water, air and the forests. Oil is abiotic, the earth creates it. It really belongs to everyone.

    Next, that loss of life as a result of Gadaffi's insane actions, who is out to murder his own people, is completely unacceptable and why someone just doesn't use an EMP over Gadaffi's military personal and troop locations is beyond the rational mind. War needs to be outlawed and an EMP over areas where these outbreaks occur should be the rule-of-thumb. If waring factions can't communicate - they don't know what to do. In addition, all funds and assets should be confiscated from all parties involved in war... and we are looking at this from the personal level, as many people of the nations involved in their leader's war activities have 'no say' in these battles and are often manipulated or dragged into war against their will.

    IMPO, ALL of Gadaffi and his mercenaries financial assets need to be confiscated and given to the families affected by his atrocities.


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    Post  burgundia Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:26 pm

    Carol, it is more about controlling the oil fields, supply and trade...this is what the Cabal is after.
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    Post  Carol Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:35 pm

    I read where Clinton is ready to quit as she is fed up with Obama and "the amateurs" over all of this. He is no leader and clearly is at a loss as to what to do. Pathetic. He knows almost his whole life he is going to be president and still fails. It's clear he is completely controlled by the globalists and not his own man.


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    Post  Mercuriel Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:36 pm

    UN Votes to implement all necessary measures including NO-FLY ZONE...

    Our Libyan Brothers and Sisters are instructed to hang on. Help is inbound and very soon...

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    Post  Floyd Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:57 pm

    God bless the United Nations security Council. Now all they have to do is protect the shiite majority in Bahrain who are being shot without mercy but since the US Navy has its 5th fleet based there I cant see that happening. Oh yes..then there is all that oil. Not to mention the arms deals the UK has with the Saudis.
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    Post  Carol Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:02 pm

    UN backs action against Gaddaf
    UK forces are preparing to help enforce a no-fly zone over Libya after the UN backed "all necessary measures", short of an invasion, to protect civilians. Britain, France and US prepare for air strikes against Gaddafi. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1367357/Therell-mercy-tonight-Gaddafi-threatens-rebels-massacre-Obama-goes-UN-fly-zone.html#ixzz1Gu1Ai758

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12770467


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    Post  Sanicle Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:31 pm

    Hmm, I'm a little concerned. This is what our friend Dacus wrote on the "Transylvanian Sunrise" thread......

    Dacus wrote:For to show what is possible for the March 20, 2011 Libya to be attacked by NATO, trying to remember all when he was attacked Iraq in 2003, on March 20, why? March 20 druidic calendar is known as "Ostara's Eve" once people practiced human sacrifice, for the renewed life to the earth, Gaia is the reptilian creature that is adored by Freemasons and Illuminati and all the war ended abruptly in 2003 on May 1, why? for the May 1 druidic calendar is known as "the birch World Night" which was named after "Saint" who was Walburga rong goddess of fertility.
    From March 20 until May 1 profane ritual required to provide life blood to renew the earth and fertility goddess.
    What other time is right to start a bloody war just days than ritual sacrifice and it ends when it ends?
    This information is shocking, but who wants to have internet available research, for everything goes up in ancient times, in close liaison with occult religions.
    USA today is controlled by the occult in this case was at war with the Middle East. What is this?
    It is part of the continuous triggering of the Third World War and the building of the New World Order and the New World Religion.

    I WANT TO GET WRONG !!

    Always love .

    Could this really all have been set up as part of the (******) 'Grand Plan' by the (******) Illuminati, with the people of Libya et al as the eventual sacrifices? What do others think?
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    Post  Mercuriel Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:43 pm

    It appears We have three Intentions to support.

    > Outright slaughter as Quadafi's Forces wipeout the supposed Troublemakers and reinstitute the Regime with an Iron Grip...

    - Or -

    > The Rebels are supported from the Air by the UN or > Insert a Willing party < ...

    - Or -

    > Care not and let things take Their Course...

    Question - What else would one propose at this late Hour ?

    Huh ?


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    Post  Sanicle Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:52 pm

    I'm reminding myself of these things.

    * Death is a transition and not to be feared.
    * We all chose to incarnate at this time knowing about the Earth Changes etc...and so did those so immediately involved in it all in Libya, Japan etc...because it's an opportunity for Soul growth.
    * Those of us who have studied have known these things will occur for a long time and have been advised that it's Earth's means of transitioning into the 4th dimension, a rebirth for her.
    * It's all happening according to Universal Law, beyond our ability to alter, but the PTB are taking advantage of this to serve their own ends.
    * The Illuminati do all they can to promote strife and thus fear and anger in the world so that we will see them as 'heroes' when they and their minions come to the 'rescue' in dire times; the perfect platform on which to set up the NWO. They want less people on the planet to maintain control more easily.
    * It's said also that the neg ETs literally feed off the lower emotions/energies and do all they can also to promote it in mankind, and so serve and help the Illuminati's goals to this end.
    * There are many more postive ETs who have been and are ready to help and aid us as best they can, but they can't interfere with the Universal Law behind Earth's transitional events that are unfolding, or mankind's choices that have allowed the PTB to turn it to their own advantage ie free will.
    * I believe that the Illuminati and those who serve them are dooming themselves, both spiritually and physically by their own free will. Universal Law will deal with them also.

    Thus my intentions are twofold.
    1. I'm also now taking the position of detached observer to all that's happening on our planet during this transition so as not to give in to the fear and anger that will serve the Illuminati's and the neg ETs ends.
    2. I'm sending as much positive love and energy as I can to those beings who are in the centre of the crises that are erupting on the planet to try to help them make their own transition in the best way possible for their Soul's growth, be it to survive or perish, AND so they know they are not alone in their suffering. My heart is with them, hoping to strengthen them.

    Ultimately it's all good, although I think the Illuminati beasts are going to learn their lessons in a much, much harder way. So be it. They made their choices too.
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    Post  Floyd Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:35 am

    Where was the United Nations in Tiananmen Square, Chechnya and so on. They are very selective little bunch are they not. Again why arent the Americans protecting the disgusting violations against the shiite majority in Bahrain and the shiites in the Saudi Kingdom. Is it beacause they are two faced dirt bags who only want to look after their own interests by any chance.
    More war practice for the Royal Air Force in Libya. It will give them a chance to use the typhoon fighter jet in comabat.
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    Post  enemyofNWO Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:45 am

    Floyd wrote:Where was the United Nations in Tiananmen Square, Chechnya and so on. They are very selective little bunch are they not. Again why arent the Americans protecting the disgusting violations against the shiite majority in Bahrain and the shiites in the Saudi Kingdom. Is it beacause they are two faced dirt bags who only want to look after their own interests by any chance.
    More war practice for the Royal Air Force in Libya. It will give them a chance to use the typhoon fighter jet in comabat.




    Spot on Floyd !

    Now this:
    SNIP

    The UN Security Council has approved a resolution that backs a no-fly zone over Libya.

    The resolution also makes room for all necessary measures short of an invasion to protect civilians and civilian – populated areas.

    Ten of the Council’s 15 member voted in favour of the resolution while Russia, Germany, India and Brazil abstained.

    END SNIP

    http://gbcghana.com/index.php?id=1.327803


    and also possible use of Depleted uranium ? Are they crazy or just criminal insane ?





    I hope Ghaddafy fights back . F@@@ the criminal western powers ! I hope he burns completely the oil fields . No oil to the criminal west !

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    Post  burgundia Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:04 pm

    There are plans to attack Libya this Sunday.
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    Post  malletzky Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:04 pm

    burgundia wrote:There are plans to attack Libya this Sunday.

    Which would be the 20.03.!!!

    I remember someone here posted a connection to the beginning of the Iraq war(20.03.) few days ago. It was spmething connected to a blood sacrifice I guess. Anyone remember this?


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    Post  malletzky Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:20 pm

    malletzky wrote:
    burgundia wrote:There are plans to attack Libya this Sunday.

    Which would be the 20.03.!!!

    I remember someone here posted a connection to the beginning of the Iraq war(20.03.) few days ago. It was spmething connected to a blood sacrifice I guess. Anyone remember this?



    I found it here:

    http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t303p45-transylvanian-sunrise-by-radu-cinamar-with-peter-moon#39454


    Dacus wrote:For to show what is possible for the March 20, 2011 Libya to be attacked by NATO, trying to remember all when he was attacked Iraq in 2003, on March 20, why? March 20 druidic calendar is known as "Ostara's Eve" once people practiced human sacrifice, for the renewed life to the earth, Gaia is the reptilian creature that is adored by Freemasons and Illuminati and all the war ended abruptly in 2003 on May 1, why? for the May 1 druidic calendar is known as "the birch World Night" which was named after "Saint" who was Walburga rong goddess of fertility.
    From March 20 until May 1 profane ritual required to provide life blood to renew the earth and fertility goddess.
    What other time is right to start a bloody war just days than ritual sacrifice and it ends when it ends?
    This information is shocking, but who wants to have internet available research, for everything goes up in ancient times, in close liaison with occult religions.
    USA today is controlled by the occult in this case was at war with the Middle East. What is this?
    It is part of the continuous triggering of the Third World War and the building of the New World Order and the New World Religion.

    I WANT TO GET WRONG !!

    Always love .



    Wow, that was really chilling to read. I had no idea about those dates and their relationship to Iraq in 2003. Thank you for pointing them out. Do you know a lot about the druidic calendar? It sounds as though it would be worth studying from what you've said, to be prepared and also to know, once and for all, what is really going on on this planet with the hellish Illuminati.

    I too hope you are wrong about Libya and March 20 this year, but if you are right...well...we'll have a much better understanding of what's going on.

    God bless you Dacus. You are a very, very interesting man. I love you


    Edit: Oh, and I love that video. It put such a big smile on my face as I know quite a few men who could relate to what he's singing exactly haha. Thanks for posting that too.


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    Post  Mercuriel Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:48 pm

    Y'know - I have to say that Criticism is great if Its in the right place...

    The Sacrifice is already happening and without going off on Tangents and I have said this before - What does One propose NOW to save the Citizens of Libya from being wiped out by Quadafi ?

    Care not I guess ? Let them Die ? Don't help at all ? Which one is It ?

    Huh ?

    Now please understand I never want to see War as the solution to anything but AGAIN - What does One propose be done to save or assist the Libyans being wiped out by a Leader they no longer want ? Some have seemed to forget that the Libyan People HAVE chosen a new path - Exclusive of Quadafi - And have been shown to say so Publicly...

    They have said - Leave and so - Have they not chosen to be free of Him ? It is fine to offer Criticisms but I find that Its only useful - If - When doing the Criticizing - One offers viable solutions along with that Criticism. Do We agree on that at least ?

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    Post  Sanicle Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:18 pm

    Mercurial, I don't know if your perception of Criticism was aimed at me or not (I hope not), but I agree with you that the 'intention' we hold at this time is really important, individually and as part of the One. I don't know if you noticed or not but I tried to explain mine in post #61 after you raised this earlier but I was just wondering if it would be worthwhile to start a thread on this in the hope that others on the forum might post their intent towards the crises in Libya and elsewhere, now and for the future.

    If others choose to do so, my feeling and hope is that it may help to expand and clarifty our mental and emotional will. We all have our own perspective and thus perception...all pieces of the big picture...and the hope is that we can join and work together in this way. I also think a blending of masculine/active and feminine/receptive input might bring about a good balance. What do you think?


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    Post  Sanicle Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:55 pm

    Gadaffi declares a cease-fire?!?

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    Post  Mercuriel Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:30 am

    Sanicle wrote:Mercurial, I don't know if your perception of Criticism was aimed at me or not (I hope not), but I agree with you that the 'intention' we hold at this time is really important, individually and as part of the One. I don't know if you noticed or not but I tried to explain mine in post #61 after you raised this earlier but I was just wondering if it would be worthwhile to start a thread on this in the hope that others on the forum might post their intent towards the crises in Libya and elsewhere, now and for the future.

    If others choose to do so, my feeling and hope is that it may help to expand and clarifty our mental and emotional will. We all have our own perspective and thus perception...all pieces of the big picture...and the hope is that we can join and work together in this way. I also think a blending of masculine/active and feminine/receptive input might bring about a good balance. What do you think?

    Absolutely I agree and My reply was not really directed at anyone per se but rather that We have to intend something for these People...

    In the beginning for Me it had been to make sure They were armed so that Airstikes might not have been needed and They could take care of their own Revolution but now that things have been let go so long by the World - The Revolution is in Jeopardy of being squashed. Simply put - Outside of Angelic Intervention - The only thing I see as a Viable option is Airstrikes - No Forces on the Ground and Train the Revolutionaries to take Their Country back on Their own arming Them adequately in the process.

    Will this happen ? I am unsure as are many but what I can say is that this would all be PURE SPECULATION If only a Quadafi Loyalist would decide to do themselves all a Favour and take Him out before It gets to that...

    Intentions - Intentions - This is a tough one to be sure...

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    Post  burgundia Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:44 am

    We are all with the people of Libya. We wish them to be able to make their own choices when it comes to choosing their leaders. However, the riots in all Arab countries were orchestrated. It happens so that Gaddafi decided to fight against the rebels. It wouldn't be happening now if the western powers hadn't stirred that up. They are detrmined to protect civilians. Why didn't they do it , for example, in Rwanda when the genocide was going on for months? Civilans in Iraq are have been officially killed for years now.
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    Post  enemyofNWO Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:43 am

    burgundia wrote:We are all with the people of Libya. We wish them to be able to make their own choices when it comes to choosing their leaders. However, the riots in all Arab countries were orchestrated. It happens so that Gaddafi decided to fight against the rebels. It wouldn't be happening now if the western powers hadn't stirred that up. They are determined to protect civilians. Why didn't they do it , for example, in Rwanda when the genocide was going on for months? Civilans in Iraq are have been officially killed for years now.


    Good point Burgundia !

    Also why didn't the western criminals intervene in Egypt when Mubarak was killing the civilians around Tahir square ? Probably because Egypt has got very little oil respect to Lybia . Egypt has 60 million people and a war against Egypt would be very messy . Lybia has only 5 millions Lybians and we know how Cowards the western criminals are ! Another war for OIL ! Those western criminals never miss a war opportunity with defenseless countries !
    My point is very simple . In Libya the problems between the Libyan people and Ghaddafi should be resolved without interference by those two parties . We know that Ghaddafi is a dictator and the western crims would like to get the oil reserves and a more obliging puppet .
    If the war starts today or tomorrow , this will indicate to me that the Libyan rebellion was staged because the date is almost the same as the beginning of the Iraq war . So the N.W.O. bastards are working on a timetable . This make me thinks of this question : what else , happening today ,is also a staged event ?
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    Post  Mercuriel Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:55 am

    Well then - I guess the Concensus with some here is let the Libyans rot...

    Or what ? Blink

    -//-

    Letting the Libyans fight it out is turning into a Massacre which Quadafi is Winning - No ?

    So with that said - We should just let 'em die then ? Hmmm - This Intention will be on those Intending It - Not Myself so I'll leave this Topic alone now and withdraw. I wish to see the Libyan People out from under Quadafi but as I see that most want this Internicine Conflict to resolve Itself Internally - I'll back off.

    Status Quo or Change. We all gotta choose because sitting on the Wall is still a Choice once time runs out...

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    Post  enemyofNWO Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:51 am

    Mercuriel wrote:Well then - I guess the Concensus with some here is let the Libyans rot...

    Or what ? Blink

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    Letting the Libyans fight it out is turning into a Massacre which Quadafi is Winning - No ?

    So with that said - We should just let 'em die then ? Hmmm - This Intention will be on those Intending It - Not Myself so I'll leave this Topic alone now and withdraw. I wish to see the Libyan People out from under Quadafi but as I see that most want this Internicine Conflict to resolve Itself Internally - I'll back off.

    Status Quo or Change. We all gotta choose because sitting on the Wall is still a Choice once time runs out...

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    Merc ,

    I have learned that the wars labeled " Humanitarian interventions " are a fraud . The UN is a fraud and functions only as a rubber stamp for the corrupt US and Israeli interests . This organization disgraced itself completely by not intervening in Uganda / Ruanda and for allowing the criminal Apartheid state to get away with dozens and dozens of breaches of UN resolutions . Selective justice , in my book , is no justice at all . I remember the war against Serbia . Overnight Serbia was demonised for defending it's own Serbian minority in Kosovo . The criminals that were blowing up Serbian police stations were overnight promoted to " freedom fighters " by the western media.
    Now the reality is this . Kosovo is a den of drug smugglers , human organ smugglers and assorted criminals all in the heart of the EU . But the goal of dismembering Serbia and old Jugoslavja has been achieved . divide et impera divide and rule principle .
    I am for people doing their own civil wars without external interventions . Foreign interventions end up killing many more people than the local would . Beside that I don't believe in the lofty motivations of any foreign power . Was the war in Afghanistan started because Osama Bin Laden was there and the " west " was to liberate the Afghany women ? It's been going on for nearly 10 years now , were those goals achieved ?
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    Post  Floyd Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:04 am

    No not let them rot Merc. Of course not Just rememember the UN is doesnt do this out compassion for this rebels. They have double standards and are riddled with hypocracy. They have let people rot on numerous occasions. Why tust them? They just like to look good now and again.

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