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    Post  ClearWater Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:34 am

    Libya's Leader Speaks Out

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    Post  enemyofNWO Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:44 am

    “Airstrikes in Libya did not take place” – Russian military


    http://rt.com/news/airstrikes-libya-russian-military/

    Russia Today says :
    " Russian military, monitoring the unrest in Libya via satellite, says airstrikes on Benghazi did not take place"

    There could be a propaganda war going on to demonize Ghaddafi ( He is not a saint )
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    Post  burgundia Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:36 am

    yes, more media manipulation demonizing Gaddafi (and of course, we know he is not a saint).
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    Post  Micjer Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:42 pm

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    Post  devakas Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:28 am

    burgundia wrote: Fidel Castro says that USA may invade Libya.

    is usa again rocking the boat again?

    Russian military : Airstrikes in Libya did not take place:

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article168682.html
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    Post  devakas Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:30 am


    Democracy of double standards
    No

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    Post  devakas Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:35 am

    Venezuela: US behind Libyan violence

    Venezuela’s top diplomat has echoed Fidel Castro’s accusation that Washington is fomenting unrest in Libya to justify an invasion to seize the North African nation’s oil reserves.

    Foreign minister Nicolas Maduro claimed the United States was trying to create a movement inside Libya aimed at toppling Muammar Gaddafi.

    Maduro did not condemn or defend the violent crackdown on Libyans participating in the popular uprising against Gaddafi’s long rule.

    He called for a peaceful solution to the upheaval in Libya and questioned the veracity of media reports on the bloody uprising, which has crept closer to Gaddafi’s stronghold in Tripoli.

    “They are creating conditions to justify an invasion of Libya,” Maduro said.

    “Libya is going through difficult times, which should not be measured with information from imperial news agencies,” Maduro added, referring to Western media.

    Gaddafi has been a close ally of Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez, and Chavez’s political opponents have strongly criticised those close relations.

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    Post  burgundia Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:41 am

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    Post  burgundia Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:46 am

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    Post  Micjer Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:19 am

    Should it surprise us? Libya has oil don't they?

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    Post  devakas Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:17 pm

    Oil maybe, put their puppets in power, gain region...

    There is one of many interesting facts supporting that event was planned.
    The document is in arabic, but drawings with plans and teachings how to go to streets look not arabic.

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article168693.html

    document here:
    http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Manuel_AEI_Revolution_Egypte.pdf

    interesting...
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    Post  enemyofNWO Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:41 pm

    Something is Rotten in the so-called “Jamahiriya” of Libya

    SNIP

    "There is no question that Colonel Muammar Al-Gaddafi (Al-Qaddafi) is a dictator. He has been the dictator and so-called “qaid” of Libya for about 42 years. Yet, it appears that tensions are being ratcheted up and the flames of revolt are being fanned inside Libya. This includes earlier statements by the British Foreign Secretary William Hague that Colonel Qaddafi had fled Libya to Venezuela. [1] This statement served to electrify the revolt against Qaddafi and his regime in Libya.

    Although all three have dictatorship in common, Qaddafi’s Libya is quite different from Ben Ali’s Tunisia or Mubarak’s Egypt. The Libyan leadership is not outright subservient to the United States and the European Union. Unlike the cases of Tunisia and Egypt, the relationship that exists between Qaddafi and both the U.S. and E.U. is a modus vivendi. Simply put, Qaddafi is an independent Arab dictator and not a “managed dictator” like Ben Ali and Mubarak.

    In Tunisia and Egypt the status quo prevails, the military machine and neo-liberalism remain intact; this works for the interests of the United States and the European Union. In Libya, however, upsetting the established order is a U.S. and E.U. objective.

    The U.S. and the E.U. now seek to capitalize on the revolt against Qaddafi and his dictatorship with the hopes of building a far stronger position in Libya than ever before. Weapons are also being brought into Libya from its southern borders to promote revolt. The destabilization of Libya would also have significant implications for North Africa, West Africa, and global energy reserves. "

    END SNIP

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    Post  Mercuriel Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:05 pm

    Quite a Dilemma eh ?

    I mean We arm the People and We lose - We don't and We lose - We go in We lose - We stay out We lose...

    I guess We should just let the Libyans die at Qadafi's Hands eh ?

    Suspect

    I don't really know where this Post is leaning but I say help the Libyans without going in is the least Karmic Option of the Four...

    I mean if They (The Libyans that is) ask for the Weapons and They're given them - Then Its the Law of Allowance as They asked for Them and They'll incur Their own Karma in the attempt at Their own Liberation...

    We need not get involved any more than enabling Them to Win Their own Freedom without Us meddling in how They go about It.

    Thats just My 2 cents is all...

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    Post  Carol Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:11 pm

    Let's face it. It is not America who is in control here but the globalists via the oil cartel. The oil cartel calls the shorts in all nations because they can. It's all a big game only the curtin has fallen down and anyone who has looked behind the curtin knows which end is up. They (the oil cartels) want it all for themselves so they can have more power and control over humanity as a whole. My next car is going run on solar or H20.


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    Post  devakas Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:50 pm

    does anybody remember the looking glass , which was in hands of somewhere in north africa and then Sadam had it? Den Burish may now.. Suspect
    Mercuriel, the question for me is - was it agenda or people are waking up. sunny
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    Post  Mercuriel Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:55 pm

    devakas wrote:Mercuriel, the question for me is - was it agenda or people are waking up. sunny

    Good point and I'll reply in a way or leaning as I have in the past as references what is coming in the respect of Governments falling...

    This will be hard to say but it must be heard or said. This will ocur and They will fuel It. To establish Global Hegemony in terms of the NWO and to depopulate the Earth before the Shift through the Archetypes of the Four Horsemen and their various offices of action. It is after all a Play They have seriously invested in for over two thousand years...

    Blink

    Many other things will occur to be sure but in this - Control will be given over in a way - Their way in which They will Force Us to fight for It in the Chaos They will create - Or Stand and be Martyred on Our own Swords. Hence We repeat...

    THIS IS WHY WE MUST NOT GO INTO CIVIL WAR WHILE WE FREE OURSELVES...

    We must take the opportunity They unknowingly give Us in arrogance...

    IT MUST BE DONE PASSIVE AGGRESSIVELY OR IT IS DONE...

    We must choose to not Play anymore...

    Yep - Now We're getting It. This is the Big Show and We're all in It - Like It or not...

    Time is short...

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    Post  devakas Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:41 pm

    So wisely said my bro! Everybody should read this Mercurial post! wow

    "terrorism" tactics should be forgotten now when masses of arabic countries waking up. It should not make sense anymore IMO.
    "Singing relolution" on my mind.

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    Post  devakas Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:46 am


    Israel flies to the rescue of ally Khadafi, reaping millions

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article168736.html
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    Post  Sanicle Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:00 am

    The last bit of that article is chilling.......

    "Meanwhile, the United States has demanded the UN Security Council (UNSC) to remove the provisions of charging mercenaries with war crimes in the killing of Libyan civilians.

    The request is for the UNSC to word the resolution in a way that no one from an outside country that is not a member of the International Criminal Court could be prosecuted by the Court for their actions in Libya, which in addition to Israel would also include the United States."
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    Post  devakas Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:11 am

    watch this video

    Hillary Clinton declares international information war

    http://rt.com/news/information-war-media-us/

    finally finally we will hear news from both sides ...
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    Post  Carol Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:46 am

    Chilling. The news out of Libya this Saturday morning is enough to make one weep.


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    Post  Mercuriel Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:53 am

    British Special Forces Jackals captured by Rebels

    BENGHAZI, Libya — Rebels in eastern Libya have captured members of the British special forces, but the group are being treated well and the issue will be resolved shortly, a source in the rebel movement said on Sunday.

    The Sunday Times had earlier reported that Libyan rebels had captured a British special forces unit in the east after a secret diplomatic mission to make contact with opposition leaders backfired.

    "They (the rebel army) did capture some British special forces. They could not ascertain if they were friends or foes. For our safety we are holding them and we expect this situation to be resolved soon," said the source in rebel-held Benghazi.

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    Can You say Jackal ?

    Awesome - The Rebels caught these provacatuers. Negative constructs are falling and falling fast.

    No more Jackals - No more Despots - Dictators - or Puppets. No more...

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    Post  Carol Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:21 am

    I suspect British Special Forces goal is to take out Gaddafi. I had read elsewhere he is considered a walking corpse and I agree.


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    Post  Mercuriel Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:37 pm

    The Libyan People must do this if it is to be done in a lasting and expansive way. Going the way of Outside Actors is what has all of Us in the Mess We currently are in.

    The Libyans must free Themselves and so I am glad the SAS were caught. Now Weapons being given to the Rebels is another thing and something I would like to see done so They CAN Free Themselves...

    Otherwise Its just a Duck Shoot and the Libyan Rebels and Civilian Population are the Ducks...

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    Post  TRANCOSO Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:48 pm

    NATO’s Inevitable War: The Flood of Lies regarding Libya
    by Fidel Castro Ruz
    09-03-2011

    In contrast with what is happening in Egypt and Tunisia, Libya occupies the first spot on the Human Development Index for Africa and it has the highest life expectancy on the continent. Education and health receive special attention from the State. The cultural level of its population is without a doubt the highest. Its problems are of a different sort. The population wasn’t lacking food and essential social services. The country needed an abundant foreign labour force to carry out ambitious plans for production and social development.

    For that reason, it provided jobs for hundreds of thousands of workers from Egypt, Tunisia, China and other countries. It had enormous incomes and reserves in convertible currencies deposited in the banks of the wealthy countries from which they acquired consumer goods and even sophisticated weapons that were supplied exactly by the same countries that today want to invade it in the name of human rights.

    The colossal campaign of lies, unleashed by the mass media, resulted in great confusion in world public opinion. Some time will go by before we can reconstruct what has really happened in Libya, and we can separate the true facts from the false ones that have been spread.

    Serious and prestigious broadcasting companies such as Telesur, saw themselves with the obligation to send reporters and cameramen to the activities of one group and those on the opposing side, so that they could inform about what was really happening.

    Communications were blocked, honest diplomatic officials were risking their lives going through neighbourhoods and observing activities, day and night, in order to inform about what was going on. The empire and its main allies used the most sophisticated media to divulge information about the events, among which one had to deduce the shreds of the truth.

    Without any doubt, the faces of the young people who were protesting in Benghazi, men, and women wearing the veil or without the veil, were expressing genuine indignation.

    One is able to see the influence that the tribal component still exercises on that Arab country, despite the Muslim faith that 95% of its population sincerely shares.

    Imperialism and NATO – seriously concerned by the revolutionary wave unleashed in the Arab world, where a large part of the oil is generated that sustains the consumer economy of the developed and rich countries – could not help but take advantage of the internal conflict arising in Libya so that they could promote military intervention. The statements made by the United States administration right from the first instant were categorical in that sense.

    The circumstances could not be more propitious. In the November elections, the Republican right-wing struck a resounding blow on President Obama, an expert in rhetoric.

    The fascist “mission accomplished” group, now backed ideologically by the extremists of the Tea Party, reduced the possibilities of the current president to a merely decorative role in which even his health program and the dubious economic recovery were in danger as a result of the budget deficit and the uncontrollable growth of the public debt which were breaking all historical records.

    In spite of the flood of lies and the confusion that was created, the US could not drag China and the Russian Federation to the approval by the Security Council for a military intervention in Libya, even though it managed to obtain however, in the Human Rights Council, approval of the objectives it was seeking at that moment. In regards to a military intervention, the Secretary of State stated in words that admit not the slightest doubt: “no option is being ruled out”.

    The real fact is that Libya is now wrapped up in a civil war, as we had foreseen, and the United Nations could do nothing to avoid it, other than its own Secretary General sprinkling the fire with a goodly dose of fuel.

    The problem that perhaps the actors were not imagining is that the very leaders of the rebellion were bursting into the complicated matter declaring that they were rejecting all foreign military intervention.

    Various news agencies informed that Abdelhafiz Ghoga, spokesperson for the Committee of the Revolution stated on Monday the 28th that “‘The rest of Libya shall be liberated by the Libyan people’”.

    “We are counting on the army to liberate Tripoli’ assured Ghoga during the announcement of the formation of a ‘National Council’ to represent the cities of the country in the hands of the insurrection.”

    “‘What we want is intelligence information, but in no case that our sovereignty is affected in the air, on land or on the seas’, he added during an encounter with journalists in this city located 1000 kilometres to the east of Tripoli.”

    “The intransigence of the people responsible for the opposition on national sovereignty was reflecting the opinion being spontaneously manifested by many Libyan citizens to the international press in Benghazi”, informed a dispatch of the AFP agency this past Monday.

    That same day, a political sciences professor at the University of Benghazi, Abeir Imneina, stated: “There is very strong national feeling in Libya.”

    “‘Furthermore, the example of Iraq strikes fear in the Arab world as a whole’, she underlined, in reference to the American invasion of 2003 that was supposed to bring democracy to that country and then, by contagion, to the region as a whole, a hypothesis totally belied by the facts.”

    The professor goes on: “‘We know what happened in Iraq, it’s that it is fully unstable and we really don’t want to follow the same path. We don’t want the Americans to come to have to go crying to Gaddafi’, this expert continued.”

    “But according to Abeir Imneina, ‘there also exists the feeling that this is our revolution, and that it is we who have to make it’.”

    A few hours after this dispatch was printed, two of the main press bodies of the United States, The New York Times and The Washington Post, hastened to offer new versions on the subject; the DPA agency informs on this on the following day, March the first: “The Libyan opposition could request that the West bomb from the air strategic positions of the forces loyal to President Muamar al Gaddafi, the US press informed today.”

    “The subject is being discussed inside the Libyan Revolutionary Council, ‘The New York Times’ and ‘The Washington Post’ specified in their online versions.”

    “‘The New York Times’ notes that these discussions reveal the growing frustration of the rebel leaders in the face of the possibility that Gaddafi should retake power”.

    “In the event that air actions are carried out within the United Nations framework, these would not imply international intervention, explained the council’s spokesperson, quoted by The New York Times”.

    “The council is made up of lawyers, academics, judges and prominent members of Libyan society.”

    The dispatch states: “‘The Washington Post’ quoted rebels acknowledging that, without Western backing, combat with the forces loyal to Gaddafi could last a long time and cost many human lives.”

    It is noteworthy that in that regard, not one single worker, peasant or builder is mentioned, not anyone related to material production or any young student or combatant among those who take part in the demonstrations. Why the effort to present the rebels as prominent members of society demanding bombing by the US and NATO in order to kill Libyans?

    Some day we shall know the truth, through persons such as the political sciences professor from the University of Benghazi who, with such eloquence, tells of the terrible experience that killed, destroyed homes, left millions of persons in Iraq without jobs or forced them to emigrate.

    Today on Wednesday, the second of March, the EFE Agency presents the well-known rebel spokesperson making statements that, in my opinion, affirm and at the same time contradict those made on Monday: “Benghazi (Libya), March 2. The rebel Libyan leadership today asked the UN Security Council to launch an air attack ‘against the mercenaries’ of the Muamar el Gaddafi regime.”

    “‘Our Army cannot launch attacks against the mercenaries, due to their defensive role’, stated the spokesperson for the rebels, Abdelhafiz Ghoga, at a press conference in Benghazi.”

    “‘A strategic air attack is different from a foreign intervention which we reject’, emphasized the spokesperson for the opposition forces which at all times have shown themselves to be against a foreign military intervention in the Libyan conflict”.

    Which one of the many imperialist wars would this look like?

    The one in Spain in 1936? Mussolini’s against Ethiopia in 1935? George W. Bush’s against Iraq in the year 2003 or any other of the dozens of wars promoted by the United States against the peoples of the Americas, from the invasion of Mexico in 1846 to the invasion of the Falkland Islands in 1982?

    Without excluding, of course, the mercenary invasion of the Bay of Pigs, the dirty war and the blockade of our Homeland throughout 50 years, that will have another anniversary next April 16th.

    In all those wars, like that of Vietnam which cost millions of lives, the most cynical justifications and measures prevailed.

    For anyone harbouring any doubts, about the inevitable military intervention that shall occur in Libya, the AP news agency, which I consider to be well-informed, headlined a cable printed today which stated: “The NATO countries are drawing up a contingency plan taking as its model the flight exclusion zones established over the Balkans in the 1990s, in the event that the international community decides to impose an air embargo over Libya, diplomats said”.

    Further on it concludes: “Officials, who were not able to give their names due to the delicate nature of the matter, indicated that the opinions being observed start with the flight exclusion zone that the western military alliance imposed over Bosnia in 1993 that had the mandate of the Security Council, and with the NATO bombing in Kosovo in 1999, THAT DID NOT HAVE IT”.


    Fidel Castro Ruz is a frequent contributor to Global Research.

    SOURCE: http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23518

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