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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:04 pm

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    This BBC documentary movie further explains how they totally manipulate and control our life by introducing psychotherapy. It also reveals how CIA and politicians, as well as big business utilized psychology to create people who conform to society rules. The goal is to kill individuality, passions, and inner desires.


    The link doesn't work, unfortunately. However, you can watch a video at Google.
    The Century of the Self part 2. Engineering of consent.

    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-678466363224520614#
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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:06 pm

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    www.davesweb.cnchost.com/
    Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation
    Part I
    May 8, 2008


    "There’s something happening here
    What it is ain’t exactly clear"


    Join me now, if you have the time, as we take a stroll down memory lane to a time nearly four-and-a-half decades ago – a time when America last had uniformed ground troops fighting a sustained and bloody battle to impose, uhmm, ‘democracy’ on a sovereign nation.


    It is the first week of August, 1964, and U.S. warships under the command of U.S. Navy Admiral George Stephen Morrison have allegedly come under attack while patrolling Vietnam’s Tonkin Gulf. This event, subsequently dubbed the ‘Tonkin Gulf Incident,’ will result in the immediate passing by the U.S. Congress of the obviously pre-drafted Tonkin Gulf Resolution, which will, in turn, quickly lead to America’s deep immersion into the bloody Vietnam quagmire. Before it is over, well over fifty thousand American bodies – along with literally millions of Southeast Asian bodies – will litter the battlefields of Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia.

    For the record, the Tonkin Gulf Incident appears to differ somewhat from other alleged provocations that have driven this country to war. This was not, as we have seen so many times before, a ‘false flag’ operation (which is to say, an operation that involves Uncle Sam attacking himself and then pointing an accusatory finger at someone else). It was also not, as we have also seen on more than one occasion, an attack that was quite deliberately provoked. No, what the Tonkin Gulf incident actually was, as it turns out, is an ‘attack’ that never took place at all. The entire incident, as has been all but officially acknowledged, was spun from whole cloth. (It is quite possible, however, that the intent was to provoke a defensive response, which could then be cast as an unprovoked attack on U.S ships. The ships in question were on an intelligence mission and were operating in a decidedly provocative manner. It is quite possible that when Vietnamese forces failed to respond as anticipated, Uncle Sam decided to just pretend as though they had.)



    Nevertheless, by early February 1965, the U.S. will – without a declaration of war and with no valid reason to wage one – begin indiscriminately bombing North Vietnam. By March of that same year, the infamous “Operation Rolling Thunder” will have commenced. Over the course of the next three-and-a-half years, millions of tons of bombs, missiles, rockets, incendiary devices and chemical warfare agents will be dumped on the people of Vietnam in what can only be described as one of the worst crimes against humanity ever perpetrated on this planet.

    Also in March of 1965, the first uniformed U.S. soldier will officially set foot on Vietnamese soil (although Special Forces units masquerading as ‘advisers’ and ‘trainers’ had been there for at least four years, and likely much longer). By April 1965, fully 25,000 uniformed American kids, most still teenagers barely out of high school, will be slogging through the rice paddies of Vietnam. By the end of the year, U.S. troop strength will have surged to 200,000

    Meanwhile, elsewhere in the world in those early months of 1965, a new ‘scene’ is just beginning to take shape in the city of Los Angeles. In a geographically and socially isolated community known as Laurel Canyon – a heavily wooded, rustic, serene, yet vaguely ominous slice of LA nestled in the hills that separate the Los Angeles basin from the San Fernando Valley – musicians, singers and songwriters suddenly begin to gather as though summoned there by some unseen Pied Piper. Within months, the ‘hippie/flower child’ movement will be given birth there, along with the new style of music that will provide the soundtrack for the tumultuous second half of the 1960s.


    An uncanny number of rock music superstars will emerge from Laurel Canyon beginning in the mid-1960s and carrying through the decade of the 1970s. The first to drop an album will be The Byrds, whose biggest star will prove to be David Crosby. The band’s debut effort, “Mr. Tambourine Man,” will be released on the Summer Solstice of 1965. It will quickly be followed by releases from the John Phillips-led Mamas and the Papas (“If You Can Believe Your Eyes and Ears,” January 1966), Love with Arthur Lee (“Love,” May 1966), Frank Zappa and The Mothers of Invention (“Freak Out,” June 1966), Buffalo Springfield, featuring Stephen Stills and Neil Young (“Buffalo Springfield,” October 1966), and The Doors (“The Doors,” January 1967).

    One of the earliest on the Laurel Canyon/Sunset Strip scene is Jim Morrison, the enigmatic lead singer of The Doors. Jim will quickly become one of the most iconic, controversial, critically acclaimed, and influential figures to take up residence in Laurel Canyon. Curiously enough though, the self-proclaimed “Lizard King” has another claim to fame as well, albeit one that none of his numerous chroniclers will feel is of much relevance to his career and possible untimely death: he is the son, as it turns out, of the aforementioned Admiral George Stephen Morrison.

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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:10 pm

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    Yoga and psychotherapy. Part 6

    “First stage is deep breathing and movement. Second stage is screaming meditation. By the time you get to the third stage, you are hardly there…. Your mind lives your body. There were glowing reports published giving the credits to Gurus and psychological techniques but neglected to mention thousands of cases of emotional and mental breakdown, insanity, suicides, rape, murders……..This dangerous technique of enlightenment were incorporated in psychotherapy, self-help seminars, or even in Catholic and Protestant church” (quote from video)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzmldjSEhsI&feature=related


    Suppressed by MIU and the TM movement are many independent research
    studies with tighter controls which have uncovered the following
    actual effects from the practice of TM:

    1. No specific or broad scale special benefits.

    2. Partially impaired mental faculties.

    3. Depersonalization.

    4. A high percentage of psychological disorders.

    5. Aggravation of pre-existing mental illness.

    6. The onset of mental illness.

    German Government Study (commissioned by the Government Ministry of
    Youth, Family and Health).

    The Various Implications Arising from the Practice of Transcendental
    Meditation: An Empirical Analysis of Pathogenic Structures as an Aid
    in Counselling. Bensheim, Germany: (Institut fur Jugend und
    Gesellschaft, Ernst-Ludwig-Strasse 45, 6140) The Institute for Youth
    and Society, 1980. (129 pages)

    The government's right to use this report was upheld in a ruling by
    the Bundesverwaltungsgericht, the highest German court on May 24,
    1989.


    This study reported the most adverse effects experienced by TM
    practitioners. Some excerpts follow:

    1. TM can cause mental illness or at least prepare the way for the
    onset of mental illness; that psychological illness already present
    before TM was considerably worsened after starting TM; that mind-set
    conditions can develop, leading to depersonalization.

    1. TM has a detrimental effect on the decision process. There is a
    loss of self-determination and a turning toward TM authorities for
    guidance. Studied facial expression, bodily posture, voice and
    handwriting all point to the fact that the total personality is
    gravely altered under TM.

    3. In cases studied, TM caused a far reaching alteration of the
    view of reality which adversely affects social relationships,
    motivation and the drive to achieve--to the point that practical work
    becomes intolerable to the meditator.

    FOOTNOTE:1-Double-blind denotes a comparative research experiment in
    which the identities of the control group are known neither to the
    subjects nor to the researchers.

    Susan Blackmore. Is meditation good for you? New Scientist, July 6,
    1991.

    A review of the research on meditation. The author finds that if you
    are depressed, meditation could make it worse.


    Richard J. Castillo. Depersonalization and Meditation. Psychiatry:
    Interpersonal and Biological Processes, Vol. 53, May, 1990
    pp. 158-168.

    A study of six long-term TM practitioners which reveals their
    acceptance of depersonalized states of existence because they have
    been led to believe this indicates spiritual growth from the TM
    practice.

    From a review of the literature on meditation and depersonalization
    and interviews conducted with six meditators, this study concludes
    that: 1) meditation can cause depersonalization and derealization; 2)
    the meanings in the mind of the meditator regarding the experience of
    depersonalization will determine to a great extent whether anxiety is
    present as part of the experience; 3) there need not be any
    significant anxiety or impairment in social or occupational
    functioning as a result of depersonalization; 4) a depersonalized
    state can become an apparently permanent mode of functioning; 5)
    patients with Depersonalization Disorder may be treated through a
    process of symbolic healing--that is, changing the meanings associated
    with depersonalization in the mind of the patient, thereby reducing
    anxiety and functional impairment; 6) panic/anxiety may be caused by
    depersonalization if catastrophic interpretations of depersonalization
    are present.


    Frederick J. Heide and T.D. Borkovec. Relaxation-Induced Anxiety:
    Paradoxical Anxiety Enhancement due to Relaxation Training. Journal
    of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, 1983, pp. 171-182.

    Frederick J. Heide and T.D. Borkovec. Relaxation-Induced Anxiety:
    Mechanisms and Theoretical Implications. Behavioral Research Therapy,
    1984, pp. 1-12.

    These two papers by Heide disclose that 54 percent of anxiety-prone
    subjects tested experienced increased anxiety during TM-like mantra
    meditation.


    John Kesterson and Noah F. Clinch. Metabolic Rate, Respiratory
    Exchange Ratio and Apneas During [TM] Meditation. The American Journal
    of Physiology, March 1989, R637.

    A careful, in-depth investigation into the effects of TM practice on
    respiration and metabolism, revealing that TM produces no deeper state
    of rest than from just sitting with eyes closed, even in advanced
    practitioners, and that the TM practice does not produce a
    hypometabolic state as claimed by MIU's Robert Keith Wallace.

    They also discovered a decrease in respiratory exchange ratio in
    meditators during TM not observed in controls (i.e., an increase of
    carbon dioxide). Although this research was conducted at MIU,
    Kesterson and Clinch maintained their objectivity. Unlike most work by
    TM movement research, this particular study was published in a major
    journal.

    Arnold A. Lazarus. Meditation: The Problems of Unimodal Technique.
    Meditation: Classic and Contemporary Perspectives New York: Alden
    Publications, 1984, p. 691.

    Arnold A. Lazarus. Psychiatric Problems Precipitated by
    Transcendental Meditation. Psychological Report, 1976, 39,
    pp. 601-602.

    Based on clinical experience from these two studies, Lazarus shows
    that serious psychiatric problems can ensue from the practice of TM.
    He points out that TM is no panacea; he concludes that the TM practice
    can be used in some cases, but that it is clearly contraindicated in
    other cases.

    Leon S. Otis. Adverse Effects of Transcendental
    Meditation. Meditation: Classic and Contemporary Perspectives Alden
    Publications, 1984, p. 204.


    This Stanford Research Institute study involving 574 subjects revealed
    that the longer a person practiced TM the more adverse mental effects
    were recorded; that 70 percent of subjects recorded mental disorders
    of one degree or another.
    Heinz R. Pagels, Ph.D. New York Academy of Sciences. Affidavit dated
    July 1, 1986. (2 pages)


    Dr. Pagels was Executive Director of the New York Academy of Sciences
    when he wrote this opinion:

    The views expressed in the [TM] literature that purport to find a
    connection between the recent ideas of theoretical physics and states
    of consciousness are false and profoundly misleading. No qualified
    physicist that I know would claim to find such a connection without
    knowingly committing fraud.

    Although the word ``science'' is much abused, it continues to imply an
    adherent to logic, the clear presentation of assumptions and
    deductions, and the experimental method. This [the Science of Creative
    Intelligence] is not science.

    Excerpt from Bronte Baxter
    One insider, a friend of mine who was exceptionally devoted to Maharishi and who worked with TM psychologists as their research assistant, became shaken and left the movement when she found the scientists she worked with doctoring test results to make them better conform to Maharishi’s desired outcomes.



    I wonder if there are independent studies that uncover actual affects of Course in Miracle as the project addresses "personality theory" and the Course tackles how heal the personality.
    It is a smart way to introduce TM that cause anxiety, depression, depersonalization, and other mental problems and then introduce Prozac, antianxiety, and anti-psychotic medication. It is even more disgusting.


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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:12 pm

    Stardust wrote:
    Wow! Awesome research Starninja! I does look a bit like demonic possesion or a black mass

    Some years ago I directly came across to a couple of people that were ex Osho, and they were very traumatized judging for their own comments

    Breathing is important and can be a powerful tool but knowing why one is doing what one is doing is more important. Kundalini awakenings without knowing what the person is doing have in many cases being very damaging not only mentally but physically. There have been many recorded cases of insanity due to Kundalini energies. What people is not told is why gurus promote the use of sexual energies. Sexual energies are very powerful, I studied that with the Gnostics, and it is know that part of the black mass is related to sex because it unleashes creative energies that are later on used to create ones desires

    Aleister Crawley, O.T.O. was an expert on the matter (for the negative side) and it is know that sexual magic was used to turn around the results of WWII

    So the reasonable conclusion will be if one does not know why one is doing what it is being suggested by the so called gurus don't do it. Ask for a complete Their discourse is not clear and their associtations are not clear either. I don't want to jump into conclussions but I am aware of several people that have had negative experiences with their material. They all were in the St Claire ning where this material was actibly promoted.

    So discernment is needed until it is possible to know the agenda behind. For me the fact that is a black ops thing makes me be doubly cautios because I am yet to find anything that BOps have done for the benefit of humanity.
    explanation of why and where one's energies are going to go
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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:14 pm

    Stardust wrote:

    Found this that clearly explains very briefly how all this is handled by the NSA, the same people that Arthur Neumann says he worked with. Can we believe anything this Bops handle? why shoould we? they have infiltrated all aspects of life so an alien take over seems to be running in paralell with the blue beam project. At this point all that I can say is that why will Bops give us anything that will awaken us?


    Project Briefing and Background

    There were, however, two very puzzling questions. All but one of the artifacts could be dated to the 8th century AD. The exception, known as the “compass” artifact, appeared to be an unusual form of technology, and was found among more typical artifacts like pottery and simple tools. The compass was covered in strange hieroglyphic symbols, some of which were also found on the pottery. Secondly, the pictographs that were found in the area had inexplicably appeared, and they were strikingly different than any of the other native petroglyphs or rock art found in the southwest or the entire continent for that matter.

    Because of these two anomalies, the artifacts and the entire project quickly became the property of the US government, or more specifically, the National Security Agency. It was decided that these artifacts might suggest a pre-historical, extraterrestrial presence on earth, and that the NSA had the appropriate agenda and wherewithal to initiate a full-scale, scientific expedition to determine the nature and significance of the site.

    The site was completely searched by a secret department of the NSA in 1973, but it only resulted in a few additional findings, and none of them were designated as technologies or evidence of an extraterrestrial presence. Additional pictographic symbols were found, but decoding them was a difficult and frustrating process. Experts were called in to help, but it was impossible to reach a consensus as to what the pictographs meant. As quickly as the project had risen as a priority investigation, it fell into the archives of the NSA under the code name, Ancient Arrow.

    Twenty-one years later, in 1994, a series of rockslides opened up a section of the Ancient Arrow site. The canyon was in a naturally obscure section of park land held by the state of New Mexico. After its discovery in 1972, it had been officially sanctioned off-limits to hikers and campers and was to be left in its natural state. From time-to-time, scientists — sponsored by the NSA — would visit the site hoping to uncover new evidence, but were invariably disappointed.

    Shortly after the rockslide occurrence, a small team of operatives from the NSA visited Ancient Arrow canyon to do some follow-up research. They discovered the rockslide had exposed an entrance to a hidden cavern that led deep within the canyon walls.
    At the back of this cavern, the research team discovered a well-hidden entrance into the interior of the canyon wall or rock structure of the Ancient Arrow site. There they found a system of tunnels and chambers that had been carved out from solid rock. There were a total of 23 chambers, all intricately connected to an interior corridor, and each chamber held a specific wall painting, series of pictographs, written hieroglyphs, and what seemed to be dormant, alien technologies.

    Once this entrance to the cavern was found, a report was immediately filed with the Director responsible for the Ancient Arrow project. The project was then formally brought under the jurisdiction of the Advanced Contact Intelligence Organization (ACIO), which organized an inter-disciplinary research team to assess the exact nature of the site and attempt to discover additional artifacts or evidence of an extraterrestrial visitation.

    The ACIO is a secret or unacknowledged department of the NSA. It is headquartered in Virginia, but also have personnel in Belgium, India, and Indonesia. They are largely unknown, even to senior directors within the NSA. The ACIO is the lowest profile organization within the entire intelligence community. Its agenda is to research, assimilate, and replicate any technologies or discoveries of extraterrestrial origin. Its personnel consist mainly of scientists who are completely anonymous, yet are paid salaries in excess of $400,000 per year because of their security clearance and IQ. This secret organization not only possesses enormous brain power, but it is also in possession of technologies that are far in advance of any other research facility on the planet. They are, in a word, privileged.


    The artifacts found at the Ancient Arrow site were virtually incomprehensible to the research team. There were many mysteries. Why would an advanced culture leave their artifacts in such a precise and seemingly ordered manner? What was the message they were trying to leave behind? What were their technologies and why did they leave them behind? Did the creators of this site intermingle with the native tribes or remain an isolated culture? Who were they and why were they here in the 8th century? Were they planning to return? These were only some of the mysteries that challenged the research team.

    Throughout the seven months of restoration, cataloguing, and analysis, the Ancient Arrow project was a complete enigma. More of the energy went into the safe preservation of the artifacts, rather than attempting to solve the puzzle of their existence, though speculations were a topic of every conversation. Gradually, a hypothesis was structured by the research team that an extraterrestrial culture established an earth colony in the 8th century and isolated itself within the Ancient Arrow canyon. They brought with them a very precise mission to leave behind a massive “time capsule” that would prove to be discovered in the late 20th century. While the exact nature of the time capsule was unclear to the research team, it seemed probable that it was a cultural exchange of some kind and had no invasive intent to earth or its people.

    It took a team of researchers nearly two years after the restoration was completed to decipher a partial meaning of the chamber artifacts. The 23 separate chambers seemed to be linked together to form some specific message or purposeful mission. In the 23rd and final chamber, they recovered a small optical disc that was presumed to hold digital information that could be the key to deciphering the artifacts. Scientists eagerly analyzed the disc, but they could not figure out how to access its content.

    The ACIO’s finest computer experts were called in to try and unlock the encoded disc, but to no avail. Several more months were spent trying every conceivable method to access the contents of the disc, but nothing worked. The Ancient Arrow project, for the first time in nearly a year, had hit a dead-end and funding for the project was rapidly weaned by the ACIO.

    After two more months of unsuccessful efforts, it was decided that the technology to access the disc was simply not available. The optical disc and all of the artifacts and findings would be carefully placed in secure storage until the technologies were available to unlock the disc and harvest its content. It was presumed that the disc held star charts, translation indexes, glossaries, and all the answers to the various mysteries of its creators and, perhaps more importantly, their intentions for earth.
    While the optical disc was considered to be the key to unlocking the meaning of the time capsule, the ACIO had little choice, but to place the project into storage and await the arrival of technologies that would permit them to unlock the disc. However, there were two scientists from the research team who theorized that the disc could be unlocked by understanding the meaning of the wall paintings in each of the 23 chambers. In their minds it was not a complex, technological solution, but rather a language or translation solution that would unlock the disc.

    After much persuasion, the ACIO agreed to allow the two researchers to assemble a replica of the time capsule’s contents. The replica time capsule consisted of detailed drawings and photographs of all the artifacts from each of the 23 chambers,including detailed, high-resolution photographs of the wall paintings. The two scientists would be allowed to continue their research on their own time provided they maintained utmost secrecy and reported all of their findings directly to the ACIO division head and project director.

    The optical disc was securely stored away in a vault within the ACIO. The project was officially put on indefinite hold, and all personnel associated with the project were reassigned (with promotions) to different projects. The Ancient Arrow project was not to be spoken of again until which time the technologies ** or some other means ** provided a way to unlock the optical disc and access its contents.

    The scientists spent nearly five months in partnership, trying unsuccessfully to decode the Ancient Arrow artifacts and establish the means to unlock the optical disc. During this time, the ACIO regularly experimented with new technologies or methods, and they too, were unsuccessful in unlocking the content of the optical disc.


    One day, late in the summer of 1996, one of the scientists (a linguistics expert) had an insight into how to unlock the optical disc by reducing the symbols of the wall paintings to their closest facsimile found in an ancient Sumerian text. While the Sumerian language is extinct, it was sufficiently comprehensible to this scientist that he was able to decode the symbols of the paintings, and, placing the 23 words in the same order as the Ancient Arrow chambers, he was able to finally unlock the optical disc.
    The connection between the Sumerian language and the time capsule was the breakthrough the ACIO team had been waiting for. A simple set of 23 words elicited over 8,000 pages of data from the optical disc. Unfortunately, the data was incomprehensible because there was no character set in the computer that could emulate the hieroglyphics and unusual symbols of the language. Thus, a translation index needed to be developed, which took an additional six months.

    Finally, once a translation index was programmed into the computer, the data, while it could be printed out or viewed on the monitor in its hieroglyphic form, still required translation to English. And this translation process was extremely tedious and could not be facilitated through computers, owing to the subtlety of the language and its intricate connection to the wall paintings and pictographic representations elsewhere within the Ancient Arrow site.

    As partial translations began to be developed, it was determined that even within the optical disc there was a segmentation of the data into 23 units. Each unit appeared to correspond to a specific chamber. As the first two chambers began to be translated, it was further shown that each unit contained philosophical and scientific papers, poetry, music, and an introduction to the culture and identity of its creators.
    The creators of the time capsule referred to themselves as WingMakers. They represented a future version of humanity who lived some 750 years in our future. They claimed to be culture bearers, or ones that bring the seeds of art, science, and philosophy to humanity. They had left behind a total of seven time capsules in various parts of the world to be discovered according to a well-orchestrated plan. Their apparent goal was to help the next several generations of humans develop a global culture; a unified system of philosophy, science, and art.

    In early 1997, the ACIO scientist who had originally discovered the access code for the optical disc became strangely sympathetic with the WingMakers’ mission. He was convinced that the ACIO would never share the discovery with the public, and he was certain that it was too significant to withhold. He also claimed that he was in communication with the WingMakers and that they were watching the ACIO’s progress and would, at the appropriate time, make the time capsule and its contents available to the public.

    This assertion troubled the ACIO and particularly the Ancient Arrow project director, who eventually recommended a leave of absence for the scientist and was summarily dispatched from the project. The scientist was afraid that his memories would be tampered with or destroyed altogether, and so he defected from the ACIO, quite literally the first to ever do so.

    Soon after his defection, the scientist disappeared. However, before his disappearance, some of his materials regarding the WingMakers and their time capsule were given to a journalist that he had selected at random.

    The author of this document is that journalist. I am in possession of photographs, music, poetry, artwork, translation indexes, copies of secret documents, and a variety of translated philosophical texts that all stem from the Ancient Arrow project. I’ve taken every precaution to remain anonymous so I can’t be traced. I’m convinced that these materials are released against the wishes of a secret organization that probably has powers that even our government is unaware of.

    Before the ACIO scientist had contacted me, (whom I will hereafter refer to as Dr. Anderson), I felt little or no interest in matters related to time-travel, extraterrestrials, secret organizations, or anything else similar to these issues. When I initially heard the story it seemed preposterous, but I kept my journalistic objectivity, and met with Dr. Anderson and reluctantly concluded that it would be unlikely for an individual to fabricate this story with such detail and supporting evidence, and then desire to remain anonymous.


    Dr. Anderson had brought files of photographs and drawings of odd-looking technologies that had strange symbols engraved on their outer casings. Research reports referencing the translation tables, cipher protocols, star charts, and dozens of memos from the ACIO department heads discussing the Ancient Arrow project. Everything, including about 400 pages of philosophical text had an authenticity to it that I was unable to reproach or ignore.

    In fairness to those who will suggest I should investigate further in order to get independent corroboration before I present these materials, let me just say, that I’m unable to corroborate his story because of the very nature of the ACIO. However, for whatever reason, I trust Dr. Anderson who gave me these materials. He asked nothing from me. He desired no money or recognition. His only request was that I decide how best to bring these materials to the public. He counseled me not to investigate the ACIO because he was convinced the NSA would use misinformation tactics that would simply waste my time and make the goal of releasing these materials difficult if not impossible.

    I’ve not contacted any other office of the government because Dr. Anderson told me that this would be traced by the ACIO who had high-level operatives in both the NSA and CIA, and, at best, would only invite misinformation tactics from one or both. I’m in possession of certain documents that I’ll withhold from the WingMakers’ web site, but if anything were to happen to me, I’ve arranged to have these documents shared with major media companies whom I know. These are my only safeguards in presenting these materials.
    My only interest is in the release of these materials to the public, and then they can decide what to do about them. They may desire to pressure their politicians or take other action, it’s their choice. I’m convinced that this story is too important to be held in the hands of an elite organization whose only interest is to re-engineer the technologies found in the Ancient Arrow site and apply them for their own agenda; no matter how noble that agenda may be.

    Let me be clear, these documents provide incontrovertible evidence of this secret organization known as the ACIO, and its elite directors are named and their real identities exposed.

    I’ve spent the last several months agonizing about how these materials should be presented, and it seemed most appropriate to place them on the Internet to enable a global audience to access them. I have a close friend who created this web site whom I trust completely. Other than that, no one knows what I have done here (including my web site host).
    You might ask why I’ve chosen to reserve full-scale media disclosure of the materials given to me by Dr. Anderson. I can only tell you that I don’t want to create a circus atmosphere surrounding this discovery. It may ultimately end-up in the mass media, but for now, my instincts are to keep a low profile for both these materials and myself. In doing so, I hope to preserve some sense of the dignity of these artifacts and let it grow from there.

    I’ve never been involved in any story approaching this magnitude of importance, and I’m certain that if you spend some time on this web site and suspend your disbelief, even for a few minutes, you will see how important a discovery this time capsule is. The best way you can help is to spread the word about this discovery, and open the eyes of your political representatives. If you have web sites of your own, please link to the WingMakers’ site.

    Dr. Anderson had warned me that the ACIO has an advanced version of a technology based on what he called remote viewing. As I understand it, remote viewing is the ability to ascertain the whereabouts of people through some sort of “psychic insight” by someone trained in this technology. I know this sounds far-fetched, but Dr. Anderson was insistent that they had this capability and that it was one of their most feared technologies by those within the ACIO. In effect, it was known to keep their personnel loyal. Unfortunately, this will force me to stay underground and remain very mobile over the next several months.

    Believe me, I know that this whole story may seem impossible, but I can only tell you that I’ve seen detailed drawings and photographs of the artifacts taken from the Ancient Arrow site, and these are most assuredly, to my eyes, not of this time or world. They’re unlike anything I’ve ever seen. Either the WingMakers are real, or someone has gone to a lot of trouble to convince me otherwises and again, I’m a simple journalist without any ax to grind relative to secret government operations, ETs, time travel, or alien artifacts.


    I’m not here to convert anyone. There is nothing to convert to. I simply want to disclose this material and let each individual absorb it as they choose. I will add additional documents and artifacts from the Ancient Arrow site when I feel it is safe to do so, but for now, there’s enough material on this site to introduce anyone to the culture of the WingMakers.

    I hope you take the time to immerse yourself in these materials. If you do, you may be surprised at the result.

    Anne (not my real name)
    Written October 23, 1998

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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:21 pm

    Stardust wrote:

    There someone that thinks there are inacuracy on the translations with the purpose to deceive?

    CAUTION - WINGMAKERS - WING FAKERS
    Introduction

    A word of caution about this data : look at the poem in the chamber No 22 example. Intriguing reference to DNA - in fact a wonderful affirmation from the Wingmakers of our ' true ' spiritual heritage apparently waiting to be unlocked. But wait : For such an accomplished group, pity their spelling hasn't evolved in tandem with their standards of technology time-travel. Do they wear faded BJ's way ahead of us one wonders; are flares yet in fashion in their future reality ?

    JEANS ! Methinks GENES ought to apply here for such a fundamental statementJoking aside, this is a serious error on the part of the translators, whom we are led to believe are an highly intelligent elite. We must include our mysteriously disappearing Peruvian doctor here ( and his Star Wars toys too ). Indeed, how can the fugitive-sounding journalist have overlooked this textual spelling error - assuming she or her website benefactor bothered to check it ? Everyone knows clothing spelling does not substitute for biology.

    I am unconvinced by the references to Vets; trash; snipers; security guards; cell suicides; glass jars ; failing psychic connections / isolation mentality; knowing Buddha; being on a native Indian funeral pyre, and so forth. Why ? Because these advanced humans surely have / had the very equipment to live and inter-react with us in a way to have ensured a record of something practical and positive in these poems and paintings. Apart from the quite beautiful and almost intimate love poetry of a standard I have observed in the Persian Sufi and other Classical Greats, the tone dumbs-down to banal, everyday existance in 20th century workaday America. Intriguingly in parts, as if a lament of a laboratory worker !

    For these vastly intelligent ( IQ 500 ? ), and highly qualified linguists who have deciphered the related Sumerian / Babylonian antique texts (c.f. Sitchin's book Genesis Revisited), their choice of language to describe some of Wingmaker's version of earth is frankly amateurish.
    The impression I perceive here is definitely of an individual ' in time ' trying to communicate thro the language of love poetry. Probably ' male '. No dispute with this - it feels true in essence. However, I also perceive an unseen hand of someone trying to explain frustration and fear for the world by interpreting and presenting these texts as a ' trapped insider ' in a very real 20th Century human system. Moreover, if not him, then someone who is definitely psychic drawing upon the romantic style of a person isolated or marooned without a means for travel / return : c.f. the tale of Robinson Crusoe.

    If the recovered crystal / holographic disc etc technology is credible according to the boffins of the ACIO, then whyfore the hardship and isolation suffered by our bretheren from the future ? The real explanations for their technological benefits are being carefully camouflaged by someone, I suspect.

    Whereof the ACIO super-secret NSA group which, with its own alien / world agenda / department of disinformation, would ( if you weren't on the inside ) appear quite traitorous. The partial truths discernable in the leaked memos themselves affirm my suspicions of the Wingmaker data manipulation. Basically the intelligence community's ' hall of mirrors ' is at work here. There IS a truth to the Wingmakers, but it is being distorted by the ACIO or its so-called internal opponents to avoid innocent folks like us from gaining access to the real, hidden data which will allow us to personally access the time-travel resources these Wingmakers offer to us.


    The Hands of Light ( Barbara Brennan; author of Light Emerging ) book picture-illustrations of ' future ' spiritual entites is an alternative ' truth ' I prefer instead of these motley characters I have uncovered thro my picture annotations. The former I see and work with BUT RETAINING COMPLETE AUTONOMY OVERMYSELF AT ALL TIMES. They only assist. In other words I am not dependent on anyone save my own motivation and spiritual virtues. Neither side of this physical-metaphysical partnership is superior or inferior. THIS factor is the key to accessing power and using it, something which the draco crowd have got to learn, earn and spiritually grow into even while our 3D time is ' running out '. The whole shootin' match called earth civilisation ( draco enslavement ) is a consequence of their contrived stunted spiritual growth. Here, visual data is apparently being offered by these erstwhile ' Wingmakers ' with its supposed spiritual and pastoral benefits paradoxically contradicted by this same literal purpose ( c.f. the covert symbolisms I have uncovered ). Isn't this surprising for future folk so accomplished in Creation ?

    I stand by my earlier letter to you a couple of months ago postulating the future manifestations of energy reality around 2012, which you kindly asked Al Bielek to comment on from his experiences.

    This proverbial alchemical-gold knowledge to embrace and transcend the future, we already posess; but, alas the authorities won't recognise and still continue to suppress in order to to control us. I digress.
    Some further validation. Coincidentaly, a trustworthy friend of mine who does reliable spiritual-psychic research within a group of credible folks asked me to take a look at this data after my examination of Wingmakers was underway. He gave no opinions away firstly, until I alerted him to the remarkable ' jeans ' error yesterday. His discarnate sources have cautioned that this data is obscured in deliberate ways by those intent on sppressing the truths. These sources of his are not acquainted with the Wingmakers consciousness, save to say they too can review it from their perspective like us, but they are not sufficiently in touch with our futuristic bretheren to ' call 'em up ' and directly query this for themselves , so to speak ( my words for all this ). I trust my friend's stance; I've known him a long time. He's been off and around Creation using Merkeba meditations which do show good and bad realities / outcomes are in existence BUT ARE NOT ABSOLUTE. That is to say WE can create a more appropriate beneficial spiritual reality and will do so, PROVIDED we can shake off these draconian-orion instigated neagtive shackles

    My friend has identified ' humans ' in the paintings with only six chakras - when we currently have seven !

    Attached are some covert faces I have picked out using my PC technology. None of these look human to me, and quite redolent of my S Africa , Denver Airport , Australasia data - even down to the shape of this website's arrow icon bearing close resemblance to that of my South African rock lintel / panel analysis. Take a look !
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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:22 pm

    Moxie wrote:

    must say that I'm thoroughly impressed with the depth of research that Stardustaquarian has done and shared here. It's much more than heresay that is coming from opinions that have not read A. Deane's work and compared it with Drunvalo, for example.

    One must pay attention and recognize interferences for being just that, obvious interferences that arise to Prevent you from doing so. Take a look at that. What exactly IS it that is preventing you? Does it have real merit?

    In my own research back in the 90's researching vitamin supplements, it became quite clear to me that agendas are working both sides of the coin. To take a large dose of an isolate from a complex (food source) can be considered a "drug" also. I had been getting intuitive messages for some time too this info about D3, colloidal silver and monatomic gold. I had learned that without trace & major (micro & macro) minerals in your food, vitamins are not much effective anyway.


    And an internationally recognized psychopharmacologist, who has published & lectured worldwide on pharmacology, neuroanatomy w/bodymind connections is responsible for the discovery of receptor sites in the body which gave rise that our body, in fact, does manufacture its own chemicals/"drugs", which is why you can take manmade drugs and they work their work... A Deane states that our body makes this substance celistine (sp) equivalent to starfire monatomic gold... do not take this man made stuff... makes utter sense to me.

    Do your own research. We are talking a huge agenda going on and your DNA, hybridized self is compromised. Look at the state of the world and this reflects something big at hand.

    Depend on someone else if you want, someone that has not looked into the work, can't even get past the trigger word of "channeling" to find there is more to learn about the differentiations, the implications.

    Many of us take the latest news and run with it without our own research. There is no replacement for whole foods. Colloidal silver caused a UTI in my own body, although I do value it for topical applications.

    Stewart Swerdlow stated yrs ago that Wingmakers used to be legit but have been infiltrated but he never states where he gets his information, never does he do that nor does he explain why, so I take that as an invalid source, however, because A Deane goes to great pains to explain and give detailed analysis, I listen, at least I check it out. What have you done?

    Our own science tells us that we have this "junk" DNA... why is it junk? How to turn this on in order for the full expression of our potential, this template we have within us? Do yourself a favor and lay aside these interferences that prevent you from doing the fundamentals of inquiry, that is to read & try yourself.
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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:23 pm

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    This morning while debating myself on whether I should quit avalon for good, I got this article which I think is a must! Because I am not fundamentaly against change or doubt the ability of people to expand their consciousness or think there is only one path. What I think is that because of the CIA infiltration much of what is out there may do one more harm than good and as I have suffered the deception of many dead ends in a way my intention is to say in few words: Use your discernment, your brain and your intuition and think what is the intention behind the fluffy clouds because it is easy to hide under the mattress than to face life as bad as it may be but, escapism is not the answer if we want to change what is not working in the world. Whatever you believe, challenge it to the max and keep only what you KNOW, for knowing is direct, certain, personal experience which was created by you

    We are rather more powerful than what we give ourselves credit for. We do not need gurus, information yes and use it for what you want not for the aims of others. Stop being a slave of other's peoples beliefs and be your own Guru. That is what I am, my own Guru and I know some think I am following someone but I am not. Some do not like what I am doing and they are doing what it is called concerted character assasination so by putting me down they hope you will not read this thread I have spent many hours putting these thread together and others like Starninja and Moxie have helped. I have done it because I love humanity and it is enough. The time for lies is over

    I am still pondering on what to and just wanted to say, do not let your light be quashed by those that only care about themselves



    The whole article can be found here http://in2worlds.net/new-age-love-and-light-fallacies

    I personally don’t have a problem with the idea of New Age material, as nearly my entire life has been spent dabbling in it to some extent, going back to early childhood. I’m very thankful that I live in a time period where shops and libraries full of hundreds, or thousands of books on all the above mentioned subjects can be found in most every major city, along with the internet, giving me access to knowledge that was previously withheld from the general population – and women in particular. Or just not available due to lack of transportation and ways to get information out to the rest of the planet. So that’s pretty cool. I think many people tend to take it for granted, but it’s always good to reflect back on what life was like for people prior to the 1700s, where the Catholic church ruled everybody with fear, keeping people in line with the Inquisition and witch hunts, and most of the vulgar population couldn’t read, and societies tended to be cut off from each other, stuck in their limited bubble.
    But while the New Age arena contains many valid and highly useful concepts that I incorporate into my everyday life, it also has a lot of trickster deception inserted into the works. Concepts that start out on the right path……..but then seem to veer off into left field while hoping that you’ll just keep nodding your head and go along with things. Beliefs that are 180 degrees opposite/inverted of what actually seems to be the case. As well as the age old problem of chaff mixed up amongst the wheat. In particular, I’ve noticed that my biggest brow furrowing moments tend to occur with the “love and light” material. Love is great, and I’m all for the light, but there’s something really off about so much of the material that’s floating around out there to the point where it strikes me as being a knowing diversion ploy, to steer people off track. Love and light material tends to be so focused on the light, fluffy and ethereal, with a reluctance to face anything negative for fear of attracting it in, that it may ironically serve the purpose of helping to keep people in the dark. Maybe the people writing this material truly have no experiences in life with negative stuff, so maybe they’re completely unaware of it. Although I find that hard to believe. But for people who have, and newbies looking for answers, that sort of material isn’t going to cut it.


    And that’s where this write up comes in. I’d like to think of it more as “common sense New Age,” coming from personal experience and real life, hands-on knowledge and lessons. So I have my personal firsthand experience for why I disagree with certain concepts and teachings, and therefore always explain the why’s.

    In order to pick apart the concepts that I do in this write up requires that I establish what I myself believe, and why. Because Atheists and skeptics reading this article will just sit back and laugh that I’m debating say, the finer points of how karma works in relation to incarnational life plans, when they don’t believe in any of it and think the entire thing is ridiculous. “The blind arguing with the blind! hahahahahaha!” So at the end of this piece (in order to not interrupt the flow of the article…) is an add-on Appendix section where I give the quick base foundation for what my personal proof is for the various New Age concepts discussed in this write up. Because again, how can you disagree with a particular teaching due to what one’s “Higher Self” has relayed for instance, without explaining why you even believe in the Higher Self to begin with?

    As is the case with anything, the reader is always free to believe what they will -‘cause they will anyway – but, I’m just putting what I’ve noticed out there for consideration. For those looking for the fellow choir, this one is for you. For those who are invested in the New Age movement, have fun possibly being annoyed. For newbies, I hope I was able to give you an alternative perspective that you’re not hearing from your new age gurus. And for those who are reading it for amusement, then I hope this was able to help pass the day at your boring job.
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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:26 pm

    Stardust wrote:

    1. Be passive

    After compiling this entire write up, I began to realize there was a common thread amongst many New Age love and light belief systems – the idea of extreme passivity. From the unbalanced leaning towards passive feminine/Goddess energy, to the idea that everything is supposedly perfect as is and nothing needs to be changed, to sitting around apathetically waiting for the Big Ascension Shift and external rescue, suppressing the intellect while awake and the mind during meditation…..all of it has the common thread of getting the practitioner to become a passive doormat. My boyfriend even relayed one particular love and light belief he came across which said that when it comes to predators, abusers, sociopaths, etc. we need to respect who they are, and that “we shouldn’t interfere because that’s just them expressing their free will.” !!! Translation – let them abuse you and prey on you, because to do otherwise is to be violating their freewill. Never mind about your freewill! Talk about distortion of concepts, and things becoming inverted.

    Something that’s going to pop up throughout this write up is the idea of balance. The middle ground, the third choice, and avoiding false two choice dichotomies. Our society is quite fond of polarizing binary choices, and New Age belief structures are no exception. Being the prey is just as bad as being the predator. We should be aiming for balance. Where you know your own worth and stand up for yourself, not allowing yourself to be a passive doormat who gets preyed upon and taken advantage of. But who also doesn’t prey upon or take advantage of others. It’s very simple. And when you encounter somebody who is trying to prey upon you, you either put your foot down, or remove them from your life. To do so isn’t mean or judgmental. It’s removing yourself from the predator-prey circle. There’s nothing wrong with that…..and we should be questioning any belief structure that seems to be designed to serve the abusers, predators and sociopaths.

    Be mindful of the direction any New Age belief system or practice is trying to steer people. So often passivity is the big inversion or twist, when things take that turn out into left field but they hope you don’t question things and just go with it. Passivity means the negs have free reign, because the people most likely to be able to empower themselves as well as making a positive difference in the world have been taken out of the picture, convinced of their need to be nothing, do nothing, turn off the mind, stop thinking, and just let the predators roam wild taking advantage of everything and everybody.


    2. Must not acknowledge anything negative

    Many New Agers are downright phobic about anything perceived as negative. To the point where they will not acknowledge anything of the sort, period. They don’t talk about it, and they certainly won’t tolerate listening to somebody else mention something perceived as negative. To me, it can be so overboard that it comes across like “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” or something. Just very……not right, fake and weird. Quoting from something that a reader passed along in an email, here is the perfect example in the mission statement of one particular New Age Facebook group. Bolded words my own emphasis:

    “We recognize Facebook as a tool for supporting The Shift of humanity. It is our intention to express only that which serves in bringing humankind together – Unifying, Awakening, Inspiring, Enjoining. We will serve Love, Allowance, Forgiveness, Non-Judgement, Beauty, Joy, Peace, Love and Healing through the tool of FB. We will refrain from expressing hate, anger, judgement or a sense of lack and limited possibilities. We will not participate in the use of fear mongering. We will not generate or participate in pushing AGAINST anything through our posts – but rather commenting and posting items from a POSITIVE FRAMEWORK – IN FAVOR of those things we feel resonating with the YES of life, building a paradigm of “pro”, rather than of “anti”. We will look at FB as a tool for building bridges and understanding between disparate perspectives, as well as a tool for offering compassion and support to fellow souls.”

    The New Age reason behind never acknowledging the negative has to do with the whole – misapplied – “Law of Attraction,” and the idea that whatever you put your mind on, you will draw to yourself, as the above bolded quotes perfectly illustrate. So therefore, don’t think about or acknowledge anything negative, don’t push back “against” anything because….well, you’ll draw it to yourself! Keep your mindset sunny and happy all the time, then this ensures your life will be free from all neg doings.

    X!
    This mindset is a bit simplistic, to say the least. “Reality creation” does have validity, in my opinion, as I’ve proven to myself, and I’ve reiterated all around my website and throughout my book the importance of one’s personal frequency, and the effect it can have on what happens to you. But the New Ager’s take on it all is too one dimensional and doesn’t understand the finer points of the concept. New Agers feel that by thinking or discussing anything negative you only “give it power!” For starters, since when did not thinking about something ever cause it to go away in this reality? It’s all still out there, even if New Agers refuse to acknowledge it. And two, if you obsess on something and are full of fear or paranoia about it then sure, you’ll probably draw it in to yourself. But if you look at something neutrally, non-obsessively, without fear, then you’re just merely looking at it and analyzing it. It’s the emotion behind the thought….or lack thereof….that determines the outcome. That’s how reality creation works, which they don’t tell you in New Age circles. It’s all about the emotional intent that drives the thought. Not the mere awareness of it. Common sense says we need awareness of the things in life that are negative, dangerous or threatening so that we can know the correct action to take to dodge it as well as the correct mindset to adopt in order to not be compatible with it, and/or prevent it from happening again. But do so without worry, fear, paranoia or expectation.

    Here at in2worlds I’ve spent a lot of time “focusing on the negative” as many hardcore New Agers would probably think, talking about all sorts of unpleasant paranormal happenings and non-physical, non-human entities, abductions, mind control, and so on. And yet as I write this, my life is very calm and peaceful. And probably more so than many new agers who try so hard to ignore the negative and yet, have problematic lives full of personal family and friend problems, financial woes and illness, as I’ve seen and confirmed firsthand with different new agers I’ve known. (and I don’t say that in a gloating, “neener neener neener!” sort of way, I say it neutrally, because I’m about to make a point.) How can that be? If thinking and talking about the so-called negative only creates more of it, then why is that not the case in my own situation? Why has much of it stopped in fact, doing the exact opposite of what new agers claim?Because the fallacy in their thinking again, lies with something called awareness. Awareness, coupled with a non-fearful, non-obsessive levelheaded mindset. Which is exactly what I, and others like me out there in Internet Land have done. We faced it head on, learned a whole bunch of things, gained tactical insights and metaphysical tools….and with that, eliminated most of the problem and proceeded to pass on our experiences and what we learned to others, to help them. And we did so with a levelheaded mentality, many times even humorous, treating it all like a comedy routine. But we didn’t put our heads in the sand and adopt the New Age oblivion approach because as I’ve witnessed of some New Agers I’ve known personally, it can actually really backfire. One New Age woman I crossed paths with back in 2006 who was a firm believer in “the law of attraction” and that you never think about anything negative or have any negative thoughts, and loved the phrase “What you resist, persists!!” soon found her life going down the toilet. Husband fell ill with cancer, he could no longer work, she had to take on two jobs at the age of 60, they lost money, etc. So what happened to the law of attraction then, and not thinking about anything negative, and how that guarantees a hassle free life?

    Again, it’s because the concept as presented in most New Age circles leaves out the full story. Change who you are on the inside – which usually comes about through experience, life lessons and awareness – and your outer world reflects that. But the change has to be real, at the core. And in many New Agers cases, they’re repeating the law of attraction and “what you resist, persists!” mantras, but their inner frequencies are still problematic. That would be the case with the new age woman I mentioned above, who also wrote a book and proclaimed in that book that she’d reached “Master Level” in terms of her personal evolution and had risen above it all. I won’t sidetrack onto the digressing story about how she was as a person (other than to say that she had glassy, glazed over far away eyes and behaved in a delusional way…..) but in a nutshell the inner core did not match the outer proclamations.

    On a closing note about discussing the “negative”: I’ve discovered that many people out there, including non-New Agers, seem to have an aversion to acknowledging negativity within people or society because it’s considered “divisive.” Sometimes even “judgmental.” While I understand the concept of “divide and conquer” and how it’s been used to destroy humanity over the eons, on the other hand it doesn’t mean there isn’t validity to the concept of negativity. Or that it shouldn’t be addressed. One can notice something about somebody in a way that doesn’t involve morally judging and condemning them. Noticing is not the same thing as judging. So when I discuss so-called negative concepts, I don’t do so from a place of being divisive, “judgemental,” or instigating hate and discord. I do so from a place of trying to understand the world around us, so that we can better navigate our way through it.



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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:27 pm

    Stardust wrote:

    Continuing with more highlights of the article cited in my post 323

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    4. Polarized Either/Or choices:

    Further expansion on some of the things mentioned in the first item on this list:

    The intellect is bad

    This one I only started to notice recently and found it to be frustrating and a little alarming. But there seems to be a mindset within many love and lighters that the intellect and mental analysis are a bad thing, and that life should be navigated by feelings and intuition alone. It’s the unbalanced black/white either/or choice between feelings or intellect, as if you can only have one or the other, when in fact merging both – creating the third choice – would be more beneficial.

    As noted all throughout my book, something I’ve come to notice is that The Powers That Be, as well as alien/MILAB abductors want their targets to not think so much. Us thinking too much is a bad thing for them, as it means their gig would be up. When you think, it means you’re noticing things. When you notice things, it means you start to ask questions. When you start to ask questions, it means you may stumble upon some surprising truths as well as forcing certain people, groups and organizations to explain some things. When explanations are demanded it means people will realize that things aren’t adding up, and soon stuff will be exposed. And exposure usually always results in sheep waking up, and leaving their pen of control. So you can obviously see why “thinking is a bad thing”….for Them. Thinking is a slippery slope, which eventually results in lost targets/victims, aka, “farm animals.” Stop the problem at the top of the slope, obviously, before it progresses, right?
    ..And so here comes the heavily feminine/Goddess-oriented New Age movement, impressing upon their followers the ideas of “Turn off your mind!” “Stop thinking so much!” “You can’t think your way through a problem!” “Being analytical is bad!” “Thinking is male! Be the feminine Goddess energy, and only feeeeeel!” etc. etc.

    You can’t think your way through a problem? What genius came up with that gem? :/ If we shouldn’t think our way through a problem then none of us would be here, as our ancestors would have been seriously up the creek without a paddle. “We have a problem! But don’t think! Just “feeeeeeeel” your way through it……” (whoops, too late, now they’re dead, and now you don’t exist ten generations down the line.) Thinking = male, feelings = female? More false two choice polarization. Integrate both. Both are needed, and both have their place.

    For me, I have a very strong left brain, as evidenced by this website, full of writings and analysis, all nice and typed up. Analysis, writing, communicating, typing, that’s all left brain. My analytical thinking brain has served me very well in life………….and so has my intuition. I’d be lost without both. I use my intuition just as much as I use my analytical thought processes, to “read” people that I cross paths with, to be in tune with those closest to me (including my cat!) as well as sense what’s coming up in my life in the near future. I’ve analyzed and thought my way around various issues and subjects that have cropped up in life, to get to the bottom of what’s what. There’s no way I could have compiled any of the write ups on this site otherwise. But I’ve also intuited my way through life as well. I’ve used both equally. Not “either/or.”

    Intellect is a necessary part of our existence. We have a brain for a reason, don’t be afraid to use it. But from what I’ve seen, many love and lighters seem to want to completely deny the fact that they have a physical body. They’re so caught up in trying to be an “ethereal ascended master of the 5th dimension Ashtar Command!” (whatever that means) that they forget…..“uh, you still have a body….you’re still here in 3rd density……” This denial of physicality-based intellect when one still resides within physicality is dangerous, in my opinion. Intellect and analysis should ideally be closely intertwined around gut feelings and intuition. They should be working in cahoots.


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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:28 pm

    Stardust wrote:


    Continuing with more highlights of the article cited in my post 323
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    5. “We’re all one!”

    This concept seems to be misunderstood and misapplied within the New Age, leaving a lot of people confused or resistent whenever they encounter it, which is understandable. Here’s what I wrote about it all in my ‘Thoughts’ section, in the entry entitled ‘We’re all one!’ “….In a nutshell the main issue seems to be with the idea of having to “be one!” with people who have yucky vibes. Like, who wants to “be one” and be pals and hang with them?!? o_0 […]“we’re all one!” doesn’t mean you need to be pals with sociopaths and willingly entangle yourself in a predator’s dark energy web, and indiscriminately feel love towards everybody out there, ie, indirectly saying that you align yourself with them. It’s about recognizing that we all ultimately trace back to the same source, despite our different paths. Some are over here, some are over there, everybody’s all over the place trying on different roles, different experiences, this light is antagonistically poking that light just to see what happens, meanwhile those two lights over there are in love, but in the end, we all apparently come from the same place.
    “Another way this concept is sort of skewed, or portrayed in a way that leaves it open for misunderstanding, is when people say stuff like, “When you fight with somebody you’re really fighting with yourself!” Um, well…..sort of. You’re fighting with an individualized form of energy, like the branches on a tree. So yes, you both trace back to the same Source origin. But you’re not “the same.” Each individualized energy has its own sentience and free will……and thus, the ability to go in a very different directions.”

    I think a big part of the confusion with this subject is that many New Agers, as mentioned, don’t like acknowledging negative events or people. So when they say “We’re all one!” it’s more like a simplified whitewash that purposely avoids the finer points of the concept, which then naturally leads to confusion or outright resistance for some people who encounter the idea.

    6. The slippery slope of conquering the ego turning into erasing all individuality

    Facing the ego and the shadow side of the human psyche/spirit is a biggie within many spiritual circles. Overcoming self importance and hypersensitivity, becoming mindful of emotional reactions, and acknowledging one’s inner predator – all aspects of the ego – is useful and in my opinion, a total must-do if one is trying to improve themselves. But in a slippery slope worst case scenario, conquering one’s strong but distorted and disconnected self identity/ego can evolve into trying to erase one’s individuality altogether, and meld into some sort of unified nothingness. Trying to “be nothing.” I don’t agree with that. Quieting the mind -that’s good. Having inner peace – that’s good. Acknowledging and understanding negative ego-based traits and their origins so one can conquer them – that’s really good. Erasing who you are and being nothing – not good. If we were meant to be nothing then we wouldn’t be here, as something. !! So needless to say, I don’t agree with this concept.

    A related concept is also found within certain meditation practices, whose goal is to go beyond the idea of merely quieting the mind to what seems to be a state of actually suppressing/losing yourself, and shutting off your mental processes altogether. This seems to me to be risky territory, allowing other “stuff” to get in and gain access while you’re suppressed and vulnerable in such ways. But that’s just my opinion. I’m not going to flat out state that such meditative practices were probably introduced and encouraged by negative stuff for insidious purposes, buuuuut, let’s just say that the thought has crossed my mind…..

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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:34 pm

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    2. Must not acknowledge anything negative

    Many New Agers are downright phobic about anything perceived as negative. To the point where they will not acknowledge anything of the sort, period. They don’t talk about it, and they certainly won’t tolerate listening to somebody else mention something perceived as negative. To me, it can be so overboard that it comes across like “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” or something. Just very……not right, fake and weird.


    The avoidance of negativity in New Agers is frightening. The implications of the avoidance of negative feelings and experiences are much bigger then the author says. When people avoid negative feelings, it indicates that they are very insecure with a weak sense of self and body that can’t handle painful feelings. The real personal power, emotional and physical health comes with the ability to experience all feelings and emotions. In fact, emotional health is the ability to accept reality and not run from it. Furthermore, people lack of self-awareness if they are emotionally numb. They are living in their head more than in their body to avoid sensing the frightening and painful feelings in the body. But to know ourselves we have to feel our body. The loss of feeling in any part of the body is the loss of part of the self. Furthermore, when we suppress hate, fear, or anger, we suppress all the feelings. In fact, when we suppress our fear we suppress our anger. Suppressing anger results in the suppression of love. Many New Agers talk about love but they don’t feel it. The suppression of our feelings is manifested in our body and facial expression. Body is constricted, lacking free movement, chest is depleted, voice is very weak when we talk or sing, and eyes are dull. Therefore, many New Agers live in a state of semi-depression. B. Baxter referred to this state as a walking zombie. And finally, when feeling is absent or reduced, one looks beyond the self for the meaning of life.

    Our society is quite fond of polarizing binary choices, and New Age belief structures are no exception. Being the prey is just as bad as being the predator. We should be aiming for balance. Where you know your own worth and stand up for yourself, not allowing yourself to be a passive doormat who gets preyed upon and taken advantage of. But who also doesn’t prey upon or take advantage of others. It’s very simple. And when you encounter somebody who is trying to prey upon you, you either put your foot down, or remove them from your life. To do so isn’t mean or judgmental. It’s removing yourself from the predator-prey circle. There’s nothing wrong with that…..and we should be questioning any belief structure that seems to be designed to serve the abusers, predators and sociopaths.
    Knowing our worth and standing up for ourselves is not what the controllers want.
    I have seen many examples when people have accepted mistreatment, abuse, or violence. It becomes very clear why Course in Miracle puts such emphasis on forgiveness. People cope with pain and hurt by detaching from those feelings, believing that forgiveness is the only answer not only to protect them against uture hurt but also to attain peace of mind and love. Since it is a lie, they become more detached from reality, friends, and loved ones.

    This one I only started to notice recently and found it to be frustrating and a little alarming. But there seems to be a mindset within many love and lighters that the intellect and mental analysis are a bad thing, and that life should be navigated by feelings and intuition alone. It’s the unbalanced black/white either/or choice between feelings or intellect, as if you can only have one or the other, when in fact merging both – creating the third choice – would be more beneficial.
    …..And so here comes the heavily feminine/Goddess-oriented New Age movement, impressing upon their followers the ideas of “Turn off your mind!” “Stop thinking so much!” “You can’t think your way through a problem!” “Being analytical is bad!” “Thinking is male! Be the feminine Goddess energy, and only feeeeeel!” etc. etc.
    This denial of physicality-based intellect when one still resides within physicality is dangerous, in my opinion. Intellect and analysis should ideally be closely intertwined around gut feelings and intuition. They should be working in cahoots.
    Are we surprised that New Agers accept any new theory or a concept based on what resonate with them. Well, Baxter was taking about it as well as a documentary. The ultimate goal is to create mindless people who can’t think for themselves.


    Excerpt from Bronte Baxter
    “The “Star Trek” image of The Borg comes to mind, the parallel is not inappropriate. The Borg in the sci-fi TV series were a civilization of beings half biological and half cyber. Like a hive, they were ruled by a central queen, whose will ran the collective. They thrived by discovering new planets and assimilating their inhabitants. Assimilation was accomplished by mind-controlling a person and then inserting, in place of the individual’s mind, the mind of The Borg. The victim’s will became the will of The Borg, his actions entrained, like an ant’s, to work for the collective’s purpose.”
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    6. The slippery slope of conquering the ego turning into erasing all individuality

    Facing the ego and the shadow side of the human psyche/spirit is a biggie within many spiritual circles. Overcoming self importance and hypersensitivity, becoming mindful of emotional reactions, and acknowledging one’s inner predator – all aspects of the ego – is useful and in my opinion, a total must-do if one is trying to improve themselves. But in a slippery slope worst case scenario, conquering one’s strong but distorted and disconnected self identity/ego can evolve into trying to erase one’s individuality altogether, and meld into some sort of unified nothingness. Trying to “be nothing.” I don’t agree with that. Quieting the mind -that’s good. Having inner peace – that’s good. Acknowledging and understanding negative ego-based traits and their origins so one can conquer them – that’s really good. Erasing who you are and being nothing – not good. If we were meant to be nothing then we wouldn’t be here, as something. !! So needless to say, I don’t agree with this concept.
    A related concept is also found within certain meditation practices, whose goal is to go beyond the idea of merely quieting the mind to what seems to be a state of actually suppressing/losing yourself, and shutting off your mental processes.
    I couldn’t say better than Bronte Baxter :

    “Brahman, what Tolle calls “Presence,” does bring euphoric peace to the experiencer. The grave is peaceful, too, but I wouldn’t want to spend time in one. There is peace when an individual surrenders their personal self. Gone is the responsibility of making choices, of finding motivation, of coming up with creative solutions. Gone is the need to think and the sting of emotional repercussions from former bad decisions. The enlightened need to do nothing, say nothing, become nothing. But to achieve that iced-over state of detachment, that cosmic disassociation, they must sacrifice the most precious thing they have ever been given: their personal divine spark. The enlightened willfully self-implode. And God’s very purpose for making them, as a unique, personal expression of Itself, gets subverted.

    Freedom means taking back control of ourselves through will, taking back control of our spirits. It means exercising will to think the thoughts we desire, not the thoughts the trawlers want us to think.

    That is their plan with their New World Order, where all will be microchipped servants of global government. That is their plan with a universal religion, where all will surrender their egos and amalgamate into Oneness consciousness: the impersonal consciousness of “enlightenment” – stripped of desires, originality, joy, passion, and the power to choose.

    We either let them accomplish this by doing nothing, or we take action now. We pick up the forgotten key to freedom, call it whatever you will: choice, personal will, authoritative intent, impassioned and confident desire. We elect to become the children of the Infinite that we forgot how to be. We take back our birthright as sons and daughters of the original, loving, joyous divine intention.

    Our personal energy signature – the soul or ego, individual self– that which makes us creative, original, reasoned, deliberate beings of action – that is taken from us. Or more precisely, we give it away.”



    We are individuals with full capacity to love passionately, passionately create, and enjoy our vibrant bodies with emotions and feelings. They want to take away from us what life is worth living for.



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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:35 pm

    Stardust wrote:

    Brahman, what Tolle calls “Presence,” does bring euphoric peace to the experiencer. The grave is peaceful, too, but I wouldn’t want to spend time in one. There is peace when an individual surrenders their personal self. Gone is the responsibility of making choices, of finding motivation, of coming up with creative solutions
    Awesome Starninja! I totally agree... I read all Tolles books and saw some of his DVDs. What I concluded is that his message was so depressing and gave no solutions to the listener. I was particularly upset about his concept of the "pain body", a sort of entity that takes over and "feeds" of the emotional grief imposed on others and I thought that could not possibly be right

    Why we should allow such thing to happen, becoming pawns for vampires that come and take the lifeforce of our love ones. What is wrong with taking responsibility and learning how to manage our energies so we do not hurt others? This is not a free for all universe, that leads to a libertine behaviour which leads to nihilism and chaos

    Giving our power away to energy vampires (pain body) was the most disempowering thing I have ever heard in my life! Comformism to the max, so we do not rock the boat and keep the "queens beasts! apeased....
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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:35 pm

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    Another deception: POLARIZED THINKING

    Polarized thinking, or, the false two choice dichotomy…..since I’ve mentioned it throughout my various writings I want to gather up the loose ends into its own article, giving it some focus. The false two choice scenario is where we’re supposed to pick from only two polar opposite choices, neither of which are fully accurate or acceptable, then set up base camp and go to war with those who chose the other team. (Author and speaker David Icke has referred to it all as “opposames.” Where we’re given two seemingly opposite choices to choose between, but which are actually the same because they’re both wrong, and they both ultimately serve higher “stuff” that’s trying to keep us trapped.) We seem to be surrounded by this divisiveness everywhere we look within the mainstream world, options seeming to be deliberately removed from our field of view. My opinion is that it’s done by design, to keep us in a never ending state of discord and disempowerment.

    This removal of options occurs in the world on both a large scale, with our reality as a whole, and on a smaller scale, with the concepts and situations that fill in the cracks of our every day lives. On the larger scale we see this with the way reality is set up and in place before we’re born, then we arrive on the scene and pick up where everybody else left off, helping to continue and perpetuate “the way things are done.” (Something I’ve mentioned before in previous writings.) Most people don’t question or challenge the system that’s in place and the way it operates, nor are they in a position to be able to do anything even if they did question it. And thanks to a lifetime of programming via parents, school, peers, the media and society in general, the desire and ability to create a new system that would flip the old one right over is nearly eliminated. And maybe some reading this are puzzled by what my problem would be with the way society is. “What’s wrong with the system around us? What’s the problem with how things are?” Well to me, that in itself illustrates just how successful a lifetime of programming from all angles has been, leaving a person unable to even envision another – better- way that reality could be. !!
    http://in2worlds.net/polarized-think...s-from-reality
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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:36 pm

    Tacodog wrote:

    Great thread starninja. Thank you for posting and recapturing all of this.
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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:37 pm

    EnemyofNWO wrote:

    Great thread Starminja . Very timely posting considering what has transpired below .

    http://www.themistsofavalon.net/universal-lounge-f8/orthodoxymoron-t833.htm
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    Burgundia wrote:

    WOW starninja..this is really excellent and shows everything from a totally different angle. This thread has made me rethink certain concepts, though I have not read everything yet. No wonder you were not a welcomed guest at PA2.
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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:40 pm

    Oliver wrote:

    Hi Starninja, good thread...

    Osho movement and comunities are constantly under attack...Osho's teaching are ENORMOUS danger for the system.
    Actually, they have killed Osho himself, poisoning him with talium (long-term acting poison), after they arranged a fake trial against him and put him in jail for 11 days.
    Before died, Osho said that this was arranged exactly to poison him, after the jail, his health become much worse.

    I reccomend the book "Diamonds days with Osho" written by his personal secretary...Unfortunatelly I have it only in Russian.

    He went to USA, he build a community, practically a city of 7,000 inhabitants, they were living self-sufficient life. THAT was the danger for the system. Later, he was betrayed by some of his closest collaborators.

    Every movement on this planet is infiltrated this or that way. But this is nothing...a real strong movement can easily overcome these infiltrations. No need for big worry, just clear heart and mind.

    Greetings,


    Evidence that Osho communes might have been infiltrated byt CIA

    "Osho Commune sidelines Indians"(High profile spokes person pointed out
    welcomed as 'visitor' by Haima Purushttam (published in the The Asian
    Age: The Mumbai Age March 10, 2000) is almost a true story. Every senior
    old member of the commune were advised to become independent one and
    half year ago, although they were in the commune working for 20 to 25
    years. And then the situation is created that the old Sannyasins have to
    opt out and to speak that it is their own decision to leave the Commune.

    A strategy is exactly the same as American Government applied to destroy
    Rajneeshpuram Commune in Oregon America and now it the turn of Osho
    Commune International to be destroyed. If you are intelligent you could
    understand easily someone is planted by CIA to finish the job
    systematically and collect all the monies for some other use to destroy
    Osho's Vision and Osho's Work, if you ask me I am pointing a single
    person, who is controlling and handling this job. And it will be
    controlled by Swami Jayesh (Master Mind and CIA agent)

    The punch line from Ma Amrit Sadhana (member of the inner circle)
    "We are erasing Osho from your mind/memory".

    more here http://www.n0by.de/2/rst/friendosho.htm
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    Starninja wrote:

    Thank you Burgundia, Tacodog, EnemyofNWO, Oliver.

    They tried to block this tread in many possible ways........but they forgot that I am ninja in my heart.
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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:41 pm

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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:43 pm

    Captive minds part 1 of 6

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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:44 pm

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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:45 pm

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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:46 pm

    Madeleine Tobias Part 1 of 2 Former cult member, exit counselor, therapist and author talks about mind control, cults and cult leaders. Captive Hearts Captive Minds and Take Back Your Life are written by Madeleine Tobias and Janja Lalich.

    After watching this video, I became aware what really cult means. I had a wrong idea before.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=537804672432953715#docid=4790136471465722593
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    Post  starninja Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:47 pm

    Cults attract intelligent, idealistic, ambitious people who are led to believe that they are working for a greater good"

    Cult recovery 101

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=537804672432953715#

    A very informative interview about mind control and cults.
    The presence of cults is more pervasive than we may think, particularly, religious or spiritual enlightenment cults. After a 17 year involvement with Gentle Wind Project Jim Bergin realized that he was in a controlling group/cult. It is sad to realize that people who are under mind control of a cult can't see it. They believe that the guidance they receive comes from their soul.

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