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    Walking between The Worlds - Bilocation - The Final Synthesis ... So, who was The eXchanger from The Original Project Avalon & Camelot ? Susan Lynne Schwenger - curated lineages

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    Post  THEeXchanger Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:23 pm

    Looking like people in your family
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    Portrait photographique d'Elisabeth von Wittelsbach, Sissi, Herzogin in Bayern, Kaiserin von Österreich, (1837+1898).



    lisabeth 'Sissi' Amalie Eugenie von Wittelsbach, Kaiserin zu Österreich, Königin zu Ungarn, Böhmen und Kroatie




    Place of Burial:

    Kapuzinergruft, Wien, Österreich-Ungarn



    Birth:

    December 24, 1837
    München, Bayern, Deutschland(DB)



    Death:

    September 10, 1898 (60)
    Geneve, Suisse



    Immediate Family:


    Daughter of Maximilian Joseph, Herzog in Bayern and HRH Princess Ludovika of Bavaria
    Wife of Kaiser Franz Josef I, Emperor of Austria & King of Hungary
    Mother of Archduchess Sophie of Austria; Archduchess Gisela of Austria, Princess of Bavaria; Rudolf, Kronprinz von Österreich-Ungarn

    and Archduchess Marie Valerie of Austria
    Sister of Ludwig Wilhelm, Herzog in Bayern; Wilhelm Karl in Bayern; Helene in Bayern; Carl Theodor, Herzog in Bayern;

    HRH Marie Sophie Amalie, Duchess in Bavaria; Duchess Mathilde Ludovika in Bavaria, Countess of Trani; Maximilian in Bayern;

    Sophie in Bayern, Duchess of Alençon and Maximilian Emanuel, Herzog in Bayern



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    http://www.geni.com/people/Elisabeth-Sissi-Amalie-Eugenie-von-Wittelsbach-Empress-consort-of-Austria/6000000002459854330?through=6000000002459854143

    i am related - and, i've had a lot of people say i look like her - but, i never seen a photograph of her - since i am now 54 - at least double her age likely in this picture, i have to admit - there are definitely similiarities-Elisabeth 'Sissi' Amalie Eugenie von Wittelsbach, Empress consort of Austria is your 12th cousin five times removed

    The Lineage and The Connection:

    Elisabeth 'Sissi' Amalie Eugenie von Wittelsbach, Empress consort of Austria is your 12th cousin five times removed.

    Susan Lynne Schwenger

    You




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother




    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father



    JAMES HANDY
    his father



    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother



    Alexander Ruthven
    her father



    Robert Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Alexander Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven
    his father



    Catherine Gray of Buttergask - Stewart - Ruthven
    his mother



    Elisabeth Stewart, Countess of Argyll
    her mother



    John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
    her father



    Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots
    his mother



    Isabella of Scotland, Duchess of Brittany
    her daughter



    Marguerite de Bretagne, Princess of Brittany
    her daughter



    Anne de Rohan
    her daughter



    René I de Rohan, comte de Porhoët
    her son



    René II, comte de Rohan
    his son



    Cathérine de Rohan-Frontenay
    his daughter



    Magdalena von Pfalz-Zweibrücken-Veldenz
    her daughter



    Johann Karl, Pfalzgraf bei Rhein, Herzog in Baiern
    her son



    Johann von Wittelsbach, Pfalzgraf von Birkenfeld-Gelnhausen
    his son



    Wilhelm, Herzog in Bayern
    his son



    Pius August von Bayern
    his son



    Maximilian Joseph, Herzog in Bayern
    his son



    Elisabeth 'Sissi' Amalie Eugenie von Wittelsbach, Empress consort of Austria
    his daughter


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    Post  THEeXchanger Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:24 pm

    http://www.geni.com/people/Joan-Beaufort/6000000000743955206?through=6000000002459854330

    Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots is your 16th great grandmother.




    You - Susan Lynne Schwenger




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother




    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father



    JAMES HANDY
    his father



    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother



    Alexander Ruthven
    her father



    Robert Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Alexander Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven
    his father



    Catherine Gray of Buttergask - Stewart - Ruthven
    his mother



    Elisabeth Stewart, Countess of Argyll
    her mother



    John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
    her father



    Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots
    his mother

    http://www.geni.com/people/Joan-Beaufort/6000000000743955206?through=6000000002459854330

    Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots is your 16th great grandmother.

    is connected to you through two of her husbands, which descend down two different parts of your family tree;

    The First one is her husband:

    James Stewart, of Lorn aka The Black Knight of Lorn



    Birth:

    December 30, 1394
    Innermeath,Argyllshire,Scotland



    Death:

    August 17, 1451 (56)
    At sea (killed by pirates)



    Immediate Family:


    Son of Sir John Stewart of Innermeath and Isobel MacDougall, of Argyll
    Husband of Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots
    Father of John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl; James Stewart, 1st Earl of Buchan and Bishop Andrew Stewart
    Brother of Robert Stewart, 1st Lord of Lorn; Christian Dundas; Isabel Stewart; Jean Bruce; Maud Stewart; Alexander Stewart, 2nd of Grandtully; Archibald Stewart and (unknown) Stewart



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    James Stewart, the Black Knight of Lorn is your 16th great grandfather.




    You - Susan Lynne Schwenger




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother




    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father



    JAMES HANDY
    his father



    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother



    Alexander Ruthven
    her father



    Robert Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Alexander Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven
    his father



    Catherine Gray of Buttergask - Stewart - Ruthven
    his mother



    Elisabeth Stewart, Countess of Argyll
    her mother



    John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
    her father



    James Stewart, the Black Knight of Lorn
    his father



    and, also through this husband:

    http://www.geni.com/people/James-I-of-Scotland/6000000002277472620?through=6000000000743955206
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    Post  THEeXchanger Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:24 pm

    http://www.geni.com/people/James-I-of-Scotland/6000000002277472620?through=6000000000743955206

    James I Stewart, King of Scots

    James I of Scotland is your 17th great grandfather.

    Susan Lynne Schwenger -

    You




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother




    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father



    JAMES HANDY
    his father



    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother



    Alexander Ruthven
    her father



    Robert Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Alexander Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun
    his mother



    Margaret Halyburton
    her mother



    James Morton
    her father



    John Douglas, 2nd Earl of Morton
    his father



    Joan Stewart of Scotland, Countess of Morton
    his mother



    James I of Scotland
    her father



    Place of Burial:

    Perth Abbey, Perth, Perth and Kinross, Scotland



    Birth:

    July 25, 1394
    Dunfermline Palace, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland



    Death:

    February 21, 1437 (42)
    Monastry of the Friars Preachers, Perth, Perthshire, Scotland (Assassinated )



    Immediate Family:


    Son of Robert III, King of Scots and Annabella Stewart, Queen Consort of Scotland
    Husband of Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots
    Father of Margaret Stewart of Scotland, Dauphine de France; Isabella of Scotland, Duchess of Brittany; Eleanor Stewart; Joan Stewart of Scotland, Countess of Morton; Mary Stewart, Countess of Buchan; James II of Scotland; Alexander Stewart, Duke of Rothesay; Princess Annabella Gordon (Stewart); David Stewart and Mary Stuart « less
    Brother of Sir John Stewart, of Ardgowan, Blackhall; Princess Margaret Stewart; David Stewart, Duke of Rothsey; Mary of Scotland, Countess of Angus; Robert Prince of Scotland; Elizabeth Princess of Scotland; Egidia Stewart; Robert Stewart, - Prince Of Scotland; Sir Alexander Stewart (Knight) Duke of Rothesay; William Douglas and James of Dunure Kennedy
    Half brother of Isobel Countess Ross Stewart; Beatrice Stewart; Margaret Maris Stewart; Janet Stewart; Isabella Of Albany Stewart; Marjory Marcelline, Baroness Campbell Stewart; Joan Lady Lorne Stewart; John Stewart; Andrew Stewart; Beatrice Countess of Annandale and Douglas Stewart and Murdac Stewart



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    Post  THEeXchanger Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:25 pm

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    DUNBAR CASTLE REMAINS

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    Post  THEeXchanger Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:27 pm

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    The Merovingian Bee:

    The Merovingian kings were noted sorcerors in the manner of the Samaritan Magi,

    and they firmly believed in the hidden powers of the honeycomb.



    Because a honeycomb is naturally made up of hexagonal prisms,

    it was considered by philosophers to be the manifestation of divine harmony in nature.

    Its construction was associated with insight and wisdom

    To the Merovingians, the bee was a most hallowed creature.

    A sacred emblem of Egytian royalty, it became a symbol of Wisdom.

    Some 300 small golden bees were founded stitched to the cloak of Childeric I (son of Meroveus)

    when his grave was unearthed in 1653.

    Napoleon had these attached to his own coronation robe in 1804.

    He claimed this right by virtue of his descent from James de Rohan-Stuardo,

    the natural son (legitimized in 1667) of Charles II Stuart of Britain by Marguerite, Duchesse de Rohan.

    The Stuarts in turn were entitled to this distinction because they, and their related Counts of Brittany,

    were descended from Clodion’s brother Fredemundus

    – thus (akin to the Merovingians) they were equally in descent from the Fisher Kings through Faramund.

    The Merovingian bee was adopted by the exiled Stuarts in Europe,

    and engraved bees are still to be seen on some Jacobite glassware.
    (credit beelore.com)

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    Post  THEeXchanger Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:28 pm

    Walking between The Worlds - Bilocation - The Final Synthesis ... So, who was The eXchanger from The Original Project Avalon & Camelot ?  Susan Lynne Schwenger - curated lineages - Page 23 Abusir-tomb-ancient-egyptian-physician_72812_600x450
    Tomb of Ancient Egyptian Physician Discovered

    Doc buried at Abusir served a king 4,400 years ago, say archaeologists




    Hieroglyphs spell out the physician's titles around a false door, a symbolic portal between this world and the next.

    Photograph by Martin Frouz, Archive of the Czech Institute of Egyptology

    Elizabeth Snodgrass

    National Geographic

    Published October 25, 2013


    A team of Czech archaeologists excavating at the site of Abusir, 17 miles (27 kilometers) south of Cairo,

    has discovered the large limestone tomb of a top royal physician from about 2400 B.C.

    The physician's name was Shepseskaf-Ankh, which means "Shepseskaf is living"

    —a tribute to the last king of the fourth dynasty during the period known as the Old Kingdom.

    As the Head of the Physicians of Upper and Lower Egypt, Shepseskaf-Ankh served the royal household during the fifth dynasty.

    He is especially associated with a king named Niuserre, who ruled Egypt for at least a decade.

    Miroslav Bárta, director of the archaeological team from the Czech Institute of Egyptology,

    is particularly pleased with the historical details contained in the tomb as well as its architectural preservation.

    "This microcosmos illustrates general trends that ruled the society of the day," he says.

    Niuserre "followed the policy of marrying some of his daughters to his top officials to keep their ambitions at bay," says Bárta.

    "This is exactly the moment when the empire starts to break down due to rising expenses and increasing independence of powerful families."

    It was also a time when Egypt's kings had run out of room at the royal funerary complex on the Giza plateau,

    the site of the grand pyramids of the fourth dynasty. They were now building smaller, rougher pyramids farther south.

    Shepseskaf-Ankh's tomb is the third physician's tomb to be found in the area. Other court officials

    and high-level priests were also laid to rest there, close to the rulers they once served.

    Shepseskaf-Ankh came from an elite Egyptian family. In one section of the tomb—surrounding a feature called a false door

    —he is identified by titles indicating his elevated status, such as Priest of Re in the Temples of the Sun, Priest of Khnum, and Priest of Magic.

    The spacious dimensions of his tomb—roughly 46 feet (14 meters) by 70 feet (21 meters), and 13 feet (4 meters) high

    —are another indication of his importance. The funerary complex features an open court and eight burial chambers for Shepseskaf-Ankh and his family.

    Being a royal doctor, it seems, could ensure your family's success not just in this world but in the afterlife as well.

    Abusir is part of the great royal cemetery that stretches between Giza and Saqqara in the desert west of the Nile.

    Although looting has increased there in the wake of the 2011 revolution, this discovery shows that some areas remain undisturbed by the recent turmoil.

    The Czech team next plans to excavate structures beneath the tomb to see what additional secrets they may reveal.

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    Post  THEeXchanger Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:30 pm

    Question: How are you related to this woman ?

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    Elisabeth 'Sissi' Amalie Eugenie von Wittelsbach, Empress consort of Austria is your 12th cousin five times removed.

    We share this common grandmother - http://www.geni.com/people/Joan-Beaufort/6000000000743955206?through=6000000002459854330

    Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots, who is my 16th great grandmother.






    Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots



    and, my Great Grandfather was James Stewart, The Black Knight of Lorn is your 16th great grandfather

    http://www.geni.com/people/Joan-Beaufort/6000000000743955206?through=6000000002459854330



    and; she was married to 2 different men

    so; another part of my lineage

    due to her second husband - connects us

    as, my 17th great grandmother to:



    James I Stewart, King of Scots James I of Scotland is your 17th great grandfather.


    http://www.geni.com/people/James-I-of-Scotland/6000000002277472620?through=6000000000743955206

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    Post  THEeXchanger Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:32 pm

    Question: can you space isis lineage, like the other ones ?

    Answer: YES



    My lineage back to GEB & NUT is also intersting

    My 110th great grandparents

    http://www.geni.com/people/Geb/6000000006277494433

    Geb is your 110th great grandfather.

    Nut is your 110th great grandmother




    You - Susan Lynne Schwenger are a 110th great granddaughter to Geb and Nut (Isis is our 109th great grandmother)→

    you can go read about this here: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=61610479-1C00-4366-8B4F-96A837342265&fid=73202E8F-6404-4AB8-A825-FDDBD7D765EE&pageindex=98

    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother




    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father



    JAMES HANDY
    his father



    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother



    Alexander Ruthven
    her father



    Robert Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Alexander Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun
    his mother



    Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun
    her father



    George Halyburton, 3rd/4th Lord Dirletoun
    his father



    Sir John Halyburton
    his father



    Marjorie Stewart Haliburton, Countess of Atholl
    his mother



    Archibald Douglas "The Grim", 3rd Earl of Douglas
    her father



    Sir James Douglas of Lothian
    his father



    Sir William "le Hardi" Douglas, 5th Lord of Douglas
    his father



    Martha of Carrick
    his mother



    Donnchadh I mac Gilbert, 1st Earl of Carrick
    her father



    Gilbert mac Fergus, Lord of Galloway
    his father



    Elizabeth Fitzhenry
    his mother



    Henry I Beauclerc, King of England
    her father



    Matilda of Flanders, Queen Consort of England
    his mother



    Adèle de France
    her mother



    Robert II le Pieux, roi des Francs
    her father



    Hugues Capet, roi des Francs
    his father



    Hugues "the Great", duke of the Franks
    his father



    Robert I, King of France
    his father



    Adelaide de Tours
    his mother



    Hugues II the Timid, count of Tours
    her father



    Count Haicho
    his father



    Berswinde d'Austrasie
    his mother



    Emnechilde of the Burgundians
    her mother



    Bodilon de Trèves
    her father



    Warnacher I, Mayor of the Palace of Burgundy
    his father



    Ansbertus / Ausbert de Moselle
    his father



    Duke Ferreolus de Rodez
    his father



    Tonantius Ferreolus, III
    his father



    Papianilla Avita
    his mother



    Son of Adelphius or Hermogenianus de Limoges
    her father



    [Adelphius or Hermogenianus]
    his father



    Anicia Faltonia Proba
    his mother



    Turrania Anicia Juliana
    her mother



    Anicius Auchenius Bassus
    her father



    Amnius Manius Caesonius Nichomachus Anicius Paulinus
    his father



    Amnius Anicius Julianus
    his father



    Sextus Anicius Faustus Paulinianus
    his father



    Asinia Juliana Nicomacha
    his mother



    Gaius Asinius Nicomachus Julianus
    her father



    Gaius Asinius Quadratus Protimus
    his father



    Julia Quadratilla
    his mother



    Aulus Julius
    her father



    Julia Quadratilla Bassa
    his mother



    Julia Iotapa
    her mother



    Alexander, King of Cilicia
    her father



    Tigranes VI, King of Armenia
    his father



    Alexander II of Judaea
    his father



    Glaphyra of Cappadocia
    his mother



    Archelaus, King of Cappadocia
    her father



    Berenice IV Ptolemy, Princess of Egypt
    his mother



    Ptolemy XII (d. 51 BC)
    her father



    Ptolemy IX Soter II (d. c. 81 BC)
    his father



    Ptolemy VIII Euergetes II Tryphon (d. 116 BC)
    his father



    Ptolemy V Epiphanes Eucharistos (d. 180 BC)
    his father



    Ptolemy IV Philopator
    his father



    Ptolemy III Eurgetes Tryphon
    his father



    Ptolemy II Philadelphus (d. 246 BC)
    his father



    Ptolemy I Soter, Satrap and Pharaoh of Egypt (d. 282 BC)
    his father



    Arisonoe the Argead
    his father



    Meleager of Macedonia
    his father



    Bocrus of Macedonia
    his father



    King Amyntas I of Macedonia
    his father



    King Alketas of Macedonia
    his father



    King Aeropos of Macedonia
    his father



    King Philippos I of Macedonia
    his father



    King Argaios of Macedonia
    his father



    King Perdikkas of Macedonia
    his father



    King Tirimmos of Macedonia
    his father



    King Koinos of Macedonia
    his father



    King Karanos of Macedonia
    his father



    Aristomidas
    his father



    Acous
    his father



    Thestrus
    his father



    Maron
    his father



    Ceisus
    his father



    Temenus
    his father



    Aristomakhos
    his father



    Cleodemus
    his father



    Hyllus
    his father



    Heracles (Hercules) of Argos, King of Tiryns (1286-1226 BC)
    his father



    Princess Alcmene (Alkmênê: “Might of the Moon”) of Mycenea
    his mother



    King Elektryon of Mycenea
    her father



    Perseus of Mycenea
    his father



    Princess Danaë of Argos
    his mother



    Acrisius, King of Argos
    her father



    Abas, King of Argos
    his father



    Prince Lynceus of Aigyptos
    his father



    King Aegyptus / Αἴγυπτος
    his father



    King Hotepsekhemwi (Boethos \ Belus) of Egypt
    his father



    Semiramis (Sarpanitu) .
    his mother



    Aha (Menes) Pharaoh of Egypt, Pharoah of Egypt
    her father



    Narmer, Pharaoh of Egypt
    his father



    Serket (Scorpion) Pharaoh of Egypt
    his father



    Ka Faraón de Egipto
    his father



    Iry-Hor Faraón de Egipto
    his father



    Horus Dios del Cielo, el Sol y la Guerra
    his father



    Isis Reina de los Dioses
    his mother



    Geb
    her father

    is your 110th great grandfather

    Nut

    her mother

    is your 110th great grandmother

    http://www.geni.com/people/Geb/6000000006277494433

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    Post  THEeXchanger Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:32 pm

    THE NORWAY & NORSE CONNECTIONS:

    http://www.geni.com/people/Harold-Alreksson-Prince-of-Norway-Rogaland/6000000014697419597#/tab/discussion

    Harold (Alreksson) Prince of Norway Rogaland, Prince of Norway and Rogaland is your 38th great grandfather.




    You - SUSAN LYNNE SCHWENGER




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother




    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father



    JAMES HANDY
    his father



    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother



    Alexander Ruthven
    her father



    Robert Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Alexander Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun
    his mother



    Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun
    her father



    George Halyburton, 3rd/4th Lord Dirletoun
    his father



    Sir John Halyburton
    his father



    Marjorie Stewart Haliburton, Countess of Atholl
    his mother



    Archibald Douglas "The Grim", 3rd Earl of Douglas
    her father



    Sir James Douglas of Lothian
    his father



    Elisabeth Stewart of Crawford
    his mother



    Jean MacRory of Bute
    her mother



    James Macrory, Lord of Bute
    her father



    Engus macrory Somairle
    his father



    Effrica (or Ragnhilda) Olafsdottir
    his mother



    Olaf I "Morsel", King of Man & the Isles
    her father



    Ragnhildr Haraldsdóttir
    his mother



    Harald III Sigurdsson «Hard ruler» Hardråde
    her father



    Åsta (Astrid) Gudbrandsdotter
    his mother



    Ulfhild Thorsdatter
    her mother



    Thora Audundsottir
    her mother



    Auðun Bjarnarson, (Skogul)
    her father



    Bjørn Hunda-Steinarsson
    his father



    Ålov/Alof Ragnarsdottir
    his mother



    Ragnar "Lodbrok" Sigurdsson
    her father



    Álfhildr Gandálfsdóttir
    his mother



    King Gandolf Alfgeirsson, King in Norway
    her father



    Alfgeir av Gardarrike, king in Vingulmork
    his father



    Vatnarr (Haraldsson) KIng of Norway of Rogaland, King in Norway
    his father



    Harold (Alreksson) Prince of Norway Rogaland, Prince of Norway and Rogaland
    his father

    http://www.geni.com/people/Harold-Alreksson-Prince-of-Norway-Rogaland/6000000014697419597#/tab/discussion

    Harold (Alreksson) Prince of Norway Rogaland, Prince of Norway and Rogaland is your 38th great grandfather.
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    MY LINEAGE to THE ANCIENT CELTIC - CELTS of Brittany - France, etc.,

    Nominoe/Nomemoe King of Brittany is your 33rd great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Nominoe-Nomemoe-King-of-Brittany/6000000005440204203

    Alain de Bretagne is your 36th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Alain-de-Bretagne/6000000003645825698?through=6000000000172778380


    Viviane Lady of the Lake , Queen of Avalon-Camelot - burgundy was my great grandmother at the 39th level

    - http://www.geni.com/people/Bors-King-of-Gaul/6000000002902839757?through=6000000003645825708

    Bors, King of Gaul is your 39th great grandfather.
    which goes back to Son of Alboin (Bors)- and, then to Son of Taliesin, Chief of the Bards and Roselinda -

    and, then thru viviane - Daughter of Taliesin, Chief of the Bards and Viviane
    Taliesin was also known as "Ben Beirdd"

    Taliesin "Ben Beirdd"

    Taliesin, Chief of the Bards is your 41st great grandfather

    http://www.geni.com/people/Taliesin-Chief-of-the-Bards/6000000000172756221?through=6000000009898910528



    Birth:

    circa 500
    France



    Death:

    540 (40)



    Immediate Family:


    Husband of Roselinda
    Father of Alboin (Bors);



    Added by:

    Ricardo Alejandro Seminario Leòn on December 11, 2007



    Managed by:

    Bjørn P. Brox and 16 others



    Curated by:

    Justin Swanström



    Taliesin, Chief of the Bards is your 41st great grandfather

    You - Susan Lynne Schwenger




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother




    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father



    JAMES HANDY
    his father



    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother



    Alexander Ruthven
    her father



    Robert Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Alexander Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun
    his mother



    Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun
    her father



    George Halyburton, 3rd/4th Lord Dirletoun
    his father



    Sir John Halyburton
    his father



    Sir Walter Halyburton, Lord Halyburton of Dirleton
    his father



    Isabel Stewart, of Albany
    his mother



    Margaret Graham, Countess of Menteith
    her mother



    John Graham, of Abercorn, 9th Earl of Menteith
    her father



    Annabella of Strathearn
    his mother



    Robert of strathearn, 4th Earl of strathearn
    her father



    Matilda d'Aubigny
    his mother



    Matilda (Maud) de Clare de Senlis
    her mother



    Robert FitzRichard de Clare
    her father



    Richard FitzGilbert de Bienfaite, Lord of Clare and of Tonbridge
    his father



    Gilbert de Brionne comte d'Eu
    his father



    Geoffrey (Godfrey) FitzRichard de Brionne, comte d'Eu
    his father

    Geoffrey (Godfrey) FitzRichard de Brionne, comte d'Eu is your 27th great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Geoffrey-Godfrey-de-Brionne/6000000002043260623?through=6000000010211396295

    Geoffroy's wife (de Brionne) is your 27th great grandmother

    Birth: circa 978
    Normandie, France
    Managed by: Anne M Berge

    Daughter of Sigfried Le Danois is your 28th great grandfather



    Richard I, 'The Fearless', Duke of Normandy aka Richard 'Sans-Peur' FitzWilliam, duc de Normandie
    his father

    Richard I, 'The Fearless', Duke of Normandy aka Richard 'Sans-Peur' FitzWilliam, duc de Normandie is your 28th great grandfather

    http://www.geni.com/people/Richard-I-The-Fearless-Duke-of-Normandy/6000000010211396295?through=6000000002043263529



    Sprota (Adela) de Senlis aka Sprota 'Adela' de Bretagne de Senlis (de St. Liz)
    his mother

    Sprota (Adela) de Senlis aka Sprota 'Adela' de Bretagne de Senlis (de St. Liz) is your 29th great grandmother.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Sprota-Adela-de-Senlis/6000000002043263529?through=6000000004036366343

    Guillaume 'Longue-Épée' / William 'Longsword' is your 29th great grandfather

    Birth: circa 891
    Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France
    Managed by: Anne M Berge

    Son of Gange-Hrólfr 'Rollo' Ragnvaldsson de Normandie and Poppa de Senlis is your 30th great grandparents





    Hubert Il, comte de Senlis
    her father

    Hubert Il, comte de Senlis is your 30th great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Hubert-Il-comte-de-Senlis/6000000004036366343?through=6000000011880474718



    Adalind de Rennes
    his mother

    Adalind de Rennes is your 31st great grandmother.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Adalind-de-Rennes/6000000011880474718?through=6000000006146232904

    Pepin Bérenger de Senlis, comte de Bayeux is your 31st great grandfather

    Birth: circa 845
    Senlis, Oise, Picardie, France
    Managed by: Drew Dedman

    Son of Pépin II, seigneur de Péronne and N.N. du Vexin is your 32nd great grandparents



    Gurwent de Bretagne
    her father

    Gurwent de Bretagne is your 32nd great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Gurwent-de-Bretagne/6000000006146232904?through=6000000005440204203

    Ysabeau de Vannes is your 32nd great grandmother

    Birth: Birth estimated between 795 and 845
    Managed by: Jordan Carrell



    Nominoe/Nomemoe King of Brittany aka Nominoë Tad ar Vro de Bretagne, roi de Bretagne
    his father

    Nominoe/Nomemoe King of Brittany is your 33rd great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Nominoe-Nomemoe-King-of-Brittany/6000000005440204203?through=6000000002300124351




    Argentaël de Bretagne is your 33rd great grandmother

    Birth: circa 770
    Bretagne, France


    Daughter of Argent "Arastagne" de Cornouaille,(Ap Constantine) King of Brittany is your 34th great grandfather

    Son of Constantine Cornouaille, Prince of Cornwall and Barliis Cornouaille is your 35th great grandparents

    http://www.geni.com/people/Argent-Arastagne-de-Cornouaille-King-of-Brittany/6000000003051124358?through=6000000003827328484

    and Berilie ??? is your 34th great grandmother



    Erispoë Ier, Comte de Poher aka Erispoë de Bretagne 851-857 de Bretagne (de Poher), Roi du Browaroch
    his father

    Erispoë Ier, Comte de Poher is your 34th great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Erispo%C3%AB-Ier-Comte-de-Poher/6000000002300124351?through=6000000000172778380



    Froamidus
    his father

    Froamidus is your 35th great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Froamidus-Fictional/6000000000172778380?through=6000000003645825698





    Alain de Bretagne
    his father

    Alain de Bretagne is your 36th great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Alain-de-Bretagne/6000000003645825698?through=6000000000172830596



    Sir Lionel
    his father

    Sir Lionel is your 37th great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Sir-Lionel-Fictional/6000000000172830596?through=6000000003645825708



    Sir Bors the Younger
    his father

    Sir Bors the Younger is your 38th great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Sir-Bors-the-Younger-Fictional/6000000003645825708?through=6000000002902839757





    Bors, King of Gaul
    his father

    Bors, King of Gaul is your 39th great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Bors-King-of-Gaul/6000000002902839757?through=6000000018407724004





    Alboin (Bors)
    his father

    Alboin (Bors) is your 40th great grandfather

    http://www.geni.com/people/Alboin-Bors/6000000018407724004?through=6000000002902839757

    Viviane, Del Acqs, Queen of Avalon & Burgundy (Camelot) is your 40th great grandmother.

    his mother

    http://www.geni.com/people/Viviane-Queen-of-Avalon-Fictional/6000000009898910528?through=6000000002902839757



    Taliesin, aka Ben Beirdd - Chief of the Bards
    his father

    Taliesin, aka Ben Beirdd - Chief of the Bards is your 41st great grandfather

    http://www.geni.com/people/Taliesin-Chief-of-the-Bards/6000000000172756221?through=6000000009898910528



    Roselinda is your 41st great grandmother

    his mother

    http://www.geni.com/people/Roselinda/6000000018407712073?through=6000000000172756221

    Daughter of Hermanfried, King of the Thüringians and Amalaberga of the Vandals your 42nd greatgrandprents


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    Post  THEeXchanger Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:35 pm

    Johannes Kepler is your first cousin 20 times removed

    Johannes Kepler (1571-1630)

    German mathematician, astronomer and astrologer.

    A key figure in the 17th century scientific revolution. Married #1 to Barbara Müller and #2 to Susanna Reuttinger

    http://www.geni.com/people/Johannes-Kepler/6000000000668688183?through=6000000000668688162

    We share the great grandparents of: Guillaume III de Hainaut, graaf van Holland and Jeanne de Valois as 20th great grandfather & grandmother

    http://www.geni.com/people/Guillaume-III-de-Hainaut-graaf-van-Holland/6000000006275514388?through=6000000005599098019

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    René Descartes

    Philosopher

    31 March 1596 – 11 February 1650) (Latinized form: Renatus Cartesius; adjectival form: "Cartesian") was a French philosopher, mathematician, physicist, and writer

    who spent most of his adult life in the Dutch Republic. He has been dubbed the "Father of Modern Philosophy",

    and much subsequent Western philosophy is a response to his writings, which are studied closely to this day.

    In particular, his Meditations on First Philosophy continues to be a standard text at most university philosophy departments.

    Descartes' influence in mathematics is also apparent; the Cartesian coordinate system

    —allowing geometric shapes to be expressed in algebraic equations—was named after him.

    He is credited as the father of analytical geometry. Descartes was also one of the key figures in the Scientific Revolution

    http://www.geni.com/people/Ren%C3%A9-Descartes/6000000010647044004?through=6000000003313012023

    René Descartes is your 16th great uncle's wife's second cousin 6 times removed's husband's brother.

    And, our shared Great Grandparents are:

    William Sinclair, 2nd lord St. Clair is your 15th great grandfather.

    Son of William Sinclair, 1st Earl of Caithness, 3rd Earl of Orkney and Elizabeth Douglas, Dowager Countess of Buchan (16th great grandparents)

    & Lady Christina Leslie is your 15th great grandmother

    Birth: circa 1432
    Caithnesshire, Scotland
    Managed by: Hanne

    Daughter of George Leslie, 1st Earl of Rothes and Christina Halyburton (16th great grandparents)

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    Post  THEeXchanger Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:49 pm

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    Question: Were you related to Michael St. Clair of The Old Project Camelot & Project Avalon website?

    Answer:  NO, not that i am aware off

    My Sinclair of Rosslyn - Roslin lineage is as follows:

    William Sinclair of Roslin, 1st Lord of Roslin is your 28th great grandfather.
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    http://www.geni.com/people/William-Sinclair-of-Roslin/6000000002187978452?through=6000000002187978444

    You - Susan Lynne Schwenger




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother






    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father



    JAMES HANDY
    his father



    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother



    Alexander Ruthven
    her father



    Robert Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Alexander Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Mary Gray - Seaton - Ruthven
    his mother



    Marion Gray
    her mother



    Helen Ogilvy (Sinclair), Lady Ogilvy of Airlie
    her mother



    Henry Sinclair, 3rd Lord Sinclair
    her father



    William Sinclair, 2nd lord St. Clair
    his father



    William Sinclair, 1st Earl of Caithness, 3rd Earl of Orkney
    his father



    Henry Sinclair, 2nd Earl of Orkney
    his father



    Henry Sinclair, 1st Earl of Orkney
    his father



    William Sinclair of Roslin, Lord of Roslin
    his father



    Sir William Sinclair of Roslin
    his father



    Sir Henry Sinclair of Roslin
    his father



    Sir William Sinclair of Roslin
    his father



    Henry Sinclair of Roslin
    his father



    Henry Sinclair of Roslin, 5th Lord of Roslin
    his father



    William Sinclair of Roslin, 4th Lord of Roslin
    his father



    Henry Sinclair of Roslin, 3rd Lord of Roslin
    his father



    Henry Sinclair of Roslin, 2nd Lord of Roslin
    his father



    William Sinclair of Roslin, 1st Lord of Roslin
    his father
    http://www.geni.com/people/William-Sinclair-of-Roslin/6000000002187978452?through=6000000002187978444

    William Sinclair of Roslin, 1st Lord of Roslin is your 28th great grandfather
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    Birth: circa 1028
    St. Clair-sur-Elle, Manche, Normandy, France
    Death: circa 1078 (50)
    Northumberlandshire, UK

    Immediate Family:
    Son of Waldonius, count of Saint-Clair and Helene "le Bon"

    Husband of Doratha de Dunbar is your 28th great grandmother

    Father of Henry Sinclair of Roslin, 2nd Lord of Roslin
    Brother of Mauger II de Saint-Clair; Richard de Saint-Clair; Agnes de Saint-Clair and Henri de Saint-Clair
    Half brother of billeheude le bigod

    Curated by:  Justin Swanström


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S54PdVTNn4Y

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    Post  THEeXchanger Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:53 pm



    Recent BBC Documentary on Rosslyn Chapel

    https://youtu.be/R_4OTRsfKfI
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    Post  THEeXchanger Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:01 pm



    The search of the holy grail, the philosophers stone,
    a personal quest of an inner truth.....



    https://youtu.be/7FlhR9wrqCI


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    Post  THEeXchanger Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:02 pm


    A great scene from a legend film!



    https://youtu.be/K1MuvvS_xSw






    EXCALIBUR:Prepare for Battle

    This scene is where King Arthur Drinks from the Holy Grail and Prepares the knights for battle.
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    Post  THEeXchanger Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:36 am

    FROM THE EAST FRANKS, through Burgundy through Charles / Carolus Magnus
    / Karl der Große of the Franks, Rex Francorum & Imperator Romanorum
    aka Charlemagne through The High Italian - Italy Kings

    http://www.geni.com/people/Berenger/6000000000629525828?through=6000000001141145118

    Berenger, an East Frank is your 37th great grandfather.
    Hunroch Margrave of Friuli is your 36th great grandfather.
    Amadeus d'Oscheret, Count of Burgundy is your 35th great grandfather.
    Anscar of Ivrea, Count of Oscheret in Burgundy is your 34th great grandfather
    Adelbert I di Ivrea is your 33rd great grandfather now, this is an interesting story
    Berengar II, King of Italy is your 32nd great grandfather
    Adalbert II, King of Italy is your 31st great grandfather

    http://www.geni.com/people/Berenger/6000000000629525828?through=6000000001141145118

    Berenger, an East Frank is your 37th great grandfather.

    You - Susan Lynne Schwenger




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother

    Murray Bruce Schwenger
    your father



    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father
    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR. is your grandfather.


    Viola Mae Drury - Handy is your grandmother
    Birth: February 28, 1908
    Renfrew, Renfrew County, Ontario, Canada
    Daughter of Dr. George Walker Herbert Drury is your great grandfather
    and Eva 'Effie' Teresa Kopitoski is your great grandmother

    http://www.geni.com/people/JAMES-Jim-EDWARD-HANDY-JR/6000000019146905159?through=6000000019147518988



    JAMES HANDY
    his father
    JAMES HANDY is your great grandfather.

    IDA EVA MORTON RUSSELL is your great grandmother
    Birth: Birth estimated between 1852 and 1902
    Daughter of ROBERT J RUSSELL is your second great grandfather



    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother
    Marian Ruthven - Handy is your second great grandmother.

    EDWARD HANDY is your second great grandfather
    Birth: circa 1846
    Essa, Simcoe County, Ontario, Canada
    Son of Charles Handy is your third great grandfather
    and Mary Gibbons is your third great grandmother



    Alexander Ruthven
    her father
    Alexander Ruthven is your third great grandfather
    MARION RENNIE - RUTHVEN is your third great grandmother



    Robert Ruthven
    his father
    Robert Ruthven is your fourth great grandfather.
    MARGARET THOMPSON is your fourth great grandmother



    John Ruthven
    his father
    John Ruthven is your fifth great grandfather.
    Margaret Wotherspoon - Weatherspoon - Ruthven is your firth great grandmother

    http://www.geni.com/people/John-Ruthven/6000000019148326667?through=6000000019148508371



    John Ruthven
    his father
    John Ruthven is your 6th great grandfather.
    Mary Henderson is your 6th great grandmother



    John Ruthven
    his father
    John Ruthven is your 7th great grandfather.
    Marrion Margaret Peadie-Ruthven is your 7th great grandmother



    George Ruthven
    his father
    George Ruthven is your 8th great grandfather.
    Elspeth Hutcheson - Ruthven is your 8th great grandmother



    William Alexander Ruthven
    his father
    William Alexander Ruthven is your 9th great grandfather.

    Isobell Reid - Ruthven is your 9th great grandmother
    Birth: November 16, 1626
    Montrose, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom
    Daughter of James Reid is your 10th great grandfather



    William Ruthven
    his father
    William Ruthven is your 10th great grandfather.
    Marion Clerk is your 10th great grandmother



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father
    Sir William Ruthven is your 11th great grandfather.

    Mary Gray - Seaton - Ruthven is your 11th great grandmother
    Birth: 1547
    Daughter of Sir Patrick Gray, 4th Lord Gray is your 12th great grandfather
    and Marion Gray is your 12th great grandmother

    http://www.geni.com/people/Sir-William-Ruthven/5464384072600127910?through=5464388874970079908



    Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirleton
    his mother
    Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirleton is your 12th great grandmother.


    William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven is your 12th great grandfather
    Birth: circa 1500
    Kynnard, Perthshire, Scotland
    Son of William Ruthven, Master of Ruthven is your 13th great grandfather
    and Catherine Gray of Buttergask - Stewart - Ruthven is your 13th great grandmother



    Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun
    her father
    Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun is your 13th great grandfather.

    Margaret Halyburton is your 13th great grandmother
    Birth: 1482
    Pumpherston,,Midlothian,Scotland
    Daughter of James Morton is your 14th great grandfather
    and Margaret Morton is your 14th great grandfather



    George Halyburton, 3rd/4th Lord Dirletoun
    his father
    George Halyburton, 3rd/4th Lord Dirletoun is your 14th great grandfather.


    Mariota halyburton is your 14th great grandmother



    Sir John Halyburton aka John Halyburton (Haliburton), 1st/2nd Lord Dirleton Castle
    his father
    Sir John Halyburton aka John Halyburton (Haliburton), 1st/2nd Lord Dirleton Castle
    is your 15th great grandfather


    Janet Seton, of Seton is your 15th great grandmother
    Birth: circa 1390
    Dirleton Castle, Dirleton, Lothian, Scotland
    Daughter of Sir William Seton of Seton is your 16th great grandfather
    and Janet Dunbar, of March is your 16th great grandmother

    http://www.geni.com/people/Sir-John-Halyburton/6000000000174561036?through=6000000000701212911



    Marjorie Stewart Haliburton (Douglas), Countess of Atholl
    his mother
    Marjorie Stewart Haliburton (Douglas), Countess of Atholl is your 16th great grandmother.


    Sir Walter Halyburton, Lord Halyburton of Dirleton Castle is your 16th great grandfather
    Birth: 1380
    Son of Sir Walter Halyburton of Dirleton Castle is your 17th great grandfather
    and Isabel Stewart, of Albany is your 17th great grandmother

    http://www.geni.com/people/Marjorie-Stewart-Haliburton/6000000000701212911?through=6000000006727958158



    Joanna Moray, Lady of Drumersgard
    her mother
    Joanna Moray, Lady of Drumersgard is your 17th great grandmother.

    Archibald Douglas "The Grim", 3rd Earl of Douglas is your 17th great grandfather
    Birth: circa 1325
    Hermiston, Roxburghshire, Scotland, (Present UK)
    Son of Sir James Douglas of Lothian is your 18th great grandfather
    and N.N. N.N.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Joanna-Moray-Lady-of-Drumersgard/6000000006727958158?through=6000000002187896531


    Joan de Menteith
    her mother
    Joan de Menteith is your 18th great grandmother.


    Maurice Moray, Earl of Strathearn is your 18th great grandfather
    Birth: circa 1305
    Drumsargard, Cambuslang, Lanark, Scotland
    Son of Sir John Moray of Drumsargard is your 19th great grandfather
    and Mary Moray is your 19th great grandmother

    http://www.geni.com/people/Joan-de-Menteith/6000000002187896531?through=6000000003827994279



    Helena of Mar aka Elyne de Mar
    her mother
    Helena of Mar aka Elyne de Mar is your 19th great grandmother.

    John Menteith of Rusky & Knapdale is your 19th great grandfather
    Birth: circa 1275
    Loch Rusky, Stirling, Scotland
    Son of Walter Stewart, Earl of Menteith is your 20th great grandfather
    and Mary of Menteith, Countess of Menteith is your 20th great grandmother

    http://www.geni.com/people/Helena-of-Mar/6000000003827994279?through=6000000009127769452


    Christian Bruce
    her mother
    Christian Bruce is your 20th great grandmother.


    Gartnait MacDomhnaill, 7th Earl of Mar is your 20th great grandfather
    Birth: circa 1272
    Kildrummy Castle, (Present Aberdeenshire), Scotland, (Present UK)
    Son of Donald de Mar, 6th Earl of Mar is your 21st great grandfather
    and Elen ferch Llywelyn is your 21st great grandmother
    Daughter of Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Wales is your 22nd great grandfather
    and Joan, Lady of Wales is your 22nd great grandmother

    http://www.geni.com/people/Christian-Bruce/6000000003042226162?through=6000000000523551913



    Robert de Bruce, 6th Lord of Annandale
    her father
    Robert de Bruce, 6th Lord of Annandale is your 21st great grandfather.


    Marjorie, Countess of Carrick is your 21st great grandmother
    Birth: circa 1253
    Carrick, Scotland
    Daughter of Niall mac Dhonnchad, 2nd Earl of Carrick is your 22nd great grandfather
    and Margaret Stewart, Countess of Carrick is your 22nd great grandmother

    http://www.geni.com/people/Robert-de-Bruce/6000000000523551913?through=6000000004250256579



    Isabella of Gloucester and Hertford
    his mother
    Isabella of Gloucester and Hertford is your 22nd great grandmother.


    Robert de Brus, 5th Lord of Annandale is your 22nd great grandfather
    Birth: 1210
    Annandale, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
    Son of Robert de Brus, 4th Lord of Annandale is your 23rd great grandfather
    and Isabel of Huntingdon is your 23rd great grandmother

    http://www.geni.com/people/Isabella-of-Gloucester-and-Hertford/6000000004250256579?through=6000000002719833027



    Isabel Marshal, Countess of Cornwall
    her mother
    Isabel Marshal, Countess of Cornwall is your 23rd great grandmother.


    Gilbert de Clare, 4th Earl of Hertford, 5th Earl of Gloucester is your 23rd great grandfather
    Birth: April 1180
    Hertford, Hertfordshire, England
    Son of Richard FitzRoger de Clare, 3rd Earl of Hertford is your 24th great grandfather
    and Amice de Clare, Countess of Gloucester is your 24th great grandmother



    William Marshal, The Marshal -The Greatest Knight that ever lived, 1st Earl of Pembroke
    her father
    William Marshal, The Marshal -The Greatest Knight that ever lived,1st Earl of Pembroke
    is your 24th great grandfather.

    "Sir William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke (1147 – 14 May 1219),
    also called William the Marshal (Norman French: Williame le Mareschal),
    was an English (or Anglo-Norman) soldier and statesman.

    He was described as the "greatest knight that ever lived" by Stephen Langton.
    He served four kings — Henry II, Richard the Lionheart, John, and Henry III
    - and rose from obscurity to become a regent of England for the last of the four,
    and so one of the most powerful men in Europe.
    Before him, the hereditary title of "Marshal" designated head of household security
    for the king of England; by the time he died, people throughout Europe
    (not just England) referred to him simply as "the Marshal".
    He received the title of "1st Earl of Pembroke" through marriage
    during the second creation of the Pembroke Earldom.
    He is perhaps the most studied and therefore most famous of the Pembroke Earls
    in modern popular culture"

    http://www.geni.com/people/William-Marshal-1st-Earl-of-Pembroke/6000000002459854209?through=6000000002134827872

    Isabel de Clare, 4th Countess of Pembroke is your 24th great grandmother
    Birth: circa 1172
    Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales
    Daughter of Richard de Clare, 2nd Earl of Pembroke is your 25th great grandfather
    and Eva MacMurrough is your 25th great grandmother



    Sibilla (Sibyl) d'Evereaux
    his mother
    Sibilla (Sibyl) d'Evereaux is your 25th great grandmother.

    John FitzGilbert is your 25th great grandfather
    Birth: 1105
    Pembroke,,Pembrokeshire,Wales
    Son of Gilbert "The Marshal" Fitzrobert is your 26th great grandfather
    and Mary de Venuz is your 26th great grandmother

    http://www.geni.com/people/Sibilla-Sibyl-d-Evereaux/6000000002134827872?through=6000000002043258207



    Sybille de Chaworth
    her mother
    Sybille de Chaworth is your 26th great grandmother.


    Walter d'Évreux, Lord of Salisbury is your 26th great grandfather
    Birth: circa 1091
    Salisbury, Wiltshire, England
    Son of Edward of Salisbury, Earl of Salisbury is your 27th great grandfather
    and Matilda FitzHubert is your 27th great grandmother
    http://www.geni.com/people/Sybille-de-Chaworth/6000000002043258207?through=6000000004089060020



    Patrick de Chaworth
    her father
    Patrick de Chaworth is your 27th great grandfather.


    Matilda de Hesdin is your 27th great grandmother - Birth: 1057
    Toddingon, Bedfordshire, England
    Daughter of Ernulf De Hesdin, Seigneur is your 28th great grandfather
    and Emmeline de Falaise is your 28th great grandmother
    http://www.geni.com/people/Patrick-de-Chaworth/6000000004089060020?through=6000000007710798630


    Hugh de Chaworth
    his father
    Hugh de Chaworth is your 28th great grandfather.



    Ernald de Chaworth
    his father
    Ernald de Chaworth is your 29th great grandfather.

    Ne N. is your 29th great grandmother - Birth: circa 1000
    Le Mans, Duchy of Anjou (now Pays de la Loire, France)
    Daughter of Nivelon de Freteval, I le Chartrain is your 30th great grandfather
    and Ermentrude De Fréteval is your 30th great grandmother

    http://www.geni.com/people/Ernald-de-Chaworth/6000000008630686989?through=4958047653390077861


    Otto Guillaume I, comte de Bourgogne et de Mâcon
    his father
    Otto Guillaume I, comte de Bourgogne et de Mâcon is your 30th great grandfather.


    Ermentrude of Rheims is your 30th great grandmother- Birth: 960
    Reims, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France
    Daughter of Renaud I de Rheims, Comte de Roucy is your 31st great grandfather
    and Alberade princesse de Lorraine is your 31st great grandmother
    http://www.geni.com/people/Ernald-de-Chaworth/6000000008630686989?through=4958047653390077861  (son)



    Adalbert II, King of Italy aka Adalbert «el Joven», rex Italiae
    his father
    Adalbert II, King of Italy is your 31st great grandfather

    Gergerge de Mâcon is your 31st great grandmother
    Daughter of Liétaud I, comte de Mâcon is your 32nd great grandfather
    and Bertha de Troyes is your 32nd great grandmother





    Berengar II, King of Italy
    his father
    Berengar II, King of Italy is your 32nd great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Berengar-II-King-of-Italy/6000000005936551695?through=6000000000186469135


    Willa d'Arles is your 32nd great grandmother
    Birth: Birth estimated between 890 and 932
    Daughter of Bosone d'Arles, marchese di Toscana is your 32nd great grandfather
    and Willa de Bourgogne is your 32nd great grandmother



    Adelbert I di Ivrea aka Adalbertus I d' Ivrea
    his father
    Adelbert I di Ivrea is your 33rd great grandfather

    http://www.geni.com/people/Adelbert-I-di-Ivrea/6000000000186469135?through=6000000002457013227


    Gisela del Friuli is your 33rd great grandmother
    Birth: September 880
    Perugia, Perugia, Umbria, Italy
    Daughter of Berengario I, re d'Italia is your 34th great grandfather
    and Bertila di Spoleto is your 34th great grandmother
    http://www.geni.com/people/Adelbert-I-di-Ivrea/6000000000186469135?through=6000000002457013227




    Anscar of Ivrea, Count of Oscheret aka Anscarius of Ivrea, I in Burgundy
    his father
    Anscar of Ivrea, Count of Oscheret aka Anscarius of Ivrea, I in Burgundy is your 34th great grandfather.

    Giselle De Volsca is your 34th great grandmother
    Birth: 855
    Ivrea,Torino,Piedmont,Italy
    Daughter of Berengarius  is your 35th great grandfather
    and Berthila of Camerino is your 35th great grandmother



    Amadeus d'Oscheret aka Amédée (Amadeus) d'Oscheret, Count of Burgundy
    his father
    Amadeus d'Oscheret, Count of Burgundy is your 35th great grandfather.

    Maria di Montferrato is your 35th great grandmother
    Birth: 800
    Friuli,Lombardy,,Italy



    Hunroch Margrave of Friuli  aka Unruoch di Friuli
    his father
    Hunroch Margrave of Friuli is your 36th great grandfather


    Engeltron de Paris is your 36th great grandmother
    Birth: circa 792
    Paris,Ile De France,,France
    Daughter of Bégon, comte de Paris, marquis de Septimanie is your 37th great grandfather
    and, Alpaïs aka
    Engeltron de Paris MP
    Birth: circa 792
    Paris,Ile De France,,France
    is your 37th great grandmother

    http://www.geni.com/people/Charlemagne/6000000002457013227?through=6000000011342832452
    Charles / Carolus Magnus / Karl der Große of the Franks, Rex Francorum & Imperator Romanorum
    aka Charlemagne is your 35th great grandfather

    Place of Burial: Royal Church of St. Mary (present Aachen Cathedral or Kaiserdom),
    Aachen, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
    Birth: April 2, 742
    Herstal, Walloon Region, Belgium
    Death: January 28, 814 (71)
    Aachen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
    Immediate Family:
    Son of Pépin III "le Bref", King of the Franks
    and Bertha Broadfoot of Laon, Queen of the Franks
    is your 36th great grandparents
    http://www.geni.com/people/Charlemagne/6000000002457013227?through=6000000011342832452






    Berenger, an East Frank   - Birth: 742
    his father
    Berenger, an East Frank is your 37th great grandfather
    http://www.geni.com/people/Berenger/6000000000629525828?through=6000000001141145118
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    Post  THEeXchanger Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:55 am

    Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis is your 19th cousin.

    www.geni.com/people/Jacqueline-Kennedy-Onassis/6000000001167867500

    www.geni.com/people/John-F-Kennedy-35th-President-of-the-USA/6000000002880912606?through=6000000001167867500

    John F. Kennedy, 35th President of the USA is your 19th cousin's 1st husband.
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    Post  THEeXchanger Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:17 am



    www.geni.com/people/Barack-H-Obama-44th-President-of-the-USA/6000000010349180549

    Barack H. Obama, 44th President of the USA is your 13th cousin twice removed.

    The common great grandparents are

    Son of William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven and Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun are your 11th great grandparents

    http://www.geni.com/people/Sir-William-Ruthven/5464384072600127910?through=6000000003126025114


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    http://www.geni.com/people/Elvis-Presley/6000000003104470825

    Elvis Presley is your 15th cousin twice removed.

    Our shared great grandparents at the 15th levels are James Stewart, the Black Knight of Lorn and Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots

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    http://www.geni.com/people/Bette-Davis/6000000001433658765

    Bette Davis aka Ruth Elizabeth (Bette) Davis is your 17th cousin twice removed.
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    Shared GGP are John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset is your 17th great grandfather &
    Margaret Holland, Duchess of Clarence is your 17th great grandmother

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    Greta Garbo is your 23rd cousin thrice removed.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Greta-Garbo/6000000002873341198
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    Shared great grandparents of : Orkney (Håkonsson), Princess Magnusdatter of Norway is your 24th great grandmother

    Daughter of Magnus VI Håkonsson, Konge av Norge- King of Norway and Ingeborg Eriksdatter af Danmark, Dronning av Norge - Norway
    and, John Orkney, Earl of Caithn is your 24th great grandfather
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    Elizabeth Taylor aka Dame Elizabeth Taylor aka Elizabeth Rosamond Taylor, Dame is your 13th cousin.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Dame-Elizabeth-Taylor/6000000007315737362

    Shared great grandparents are: William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven and Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun your 11th great grandparents

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    http://www.geni.com/people/Marilyn-Monroe/6000000005395646559
    Norma Jean Baker (Mortenson) aka Marilyn Monroe is your 19th cousin twice removed.

    Shared great granfather at the 19th level : John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster

    Son of Plantagenet - Edward III of England and Philippa of Hainault, Queen consort of England your 20th great grandparents

    and Katherine Swynford, Duchess of Lancaster at the 19th level
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    Frances Ethel Gumm aka Judy Garland is your 17th cousin once removed.

    The common great grandparents are: Sir William Seton of Seton and Janet Dunbar, of March your 17th great grandparents
    Caerlaverock Castle, Dumfriesshire, Scotland, (Present UK)
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    This lineage shares this common ancestor too:

    Gerhard von Wassenberg, Graaf van Gelre is your 26th great grandfather.

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    http://www.geni.com/people/Gerhard-von-Wassenberg-Graaf-van-Gelre/6000000019771878146
    Gerhard IV. (II) von Wassenberg
    Birth: 1091
    Wassenberg, Koeln, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Deutschland
    Death: November 24, 1131 (40)
    Zutphen, Gelderland, Netherlands
    Immediate Family:

    Son of Gerard IV von Wassenberg, I. graaf van Gelre and Clémence de Poitou
    Husband of Ermengarde van Zutphen is your 26th great grandmother
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    Post  THEeXchanger Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:13 pm

    SOME FAMILY HISTORY,THE PIERCING OF THE EYE,

    by shawn sinclair



    The Piercing of the Eye


    There have been many instances, albeit widely separated by the span of time, whereby high-profile historical figures have died

    as a result of a piercing of the eye.

    Delving further into the authenticated circumstances surrounding these events,

    I wanted to bring clarity to what I have come to refer to as “The Piercing of the Eye”.

    One such example is symbolized here, courtesy of the Bayeux Tapestry, commissioned by Odo, the Bishop of Bayeux.

    The Bayeux Tapestry is a long embroidered cloth that illustrates the events leading up to, and including,

    the Norman invasion of England in 1066.

    What may not be known to some is that the Bishop of Bayeux

    was a half-brother to William, Duke of Normandy, a major player in this 1066 drama.


    Not only was I taken aback by these happenings, but I also found myself quite surprised

    that they had been over looked for such a long time.

    Extensive research proved most illuminating in that I was quick to identify that many of these high-profile figures

    shared a common bond, besides the manner in which they died, of course.

    This bond, I was to discover, was the connection of a shared bloodline.

    One key family in particular seems to have had a direct lineal line of descent from the very individuals involved in these events;

    namely, the Sinclair family.

    Given the sensational success of Dan Brown and The Da Vinci Code, the name Sinclair, in direct association with Rosslyn Chapel,

    is continuing to garner attention on a world-wide level.


    It needs to be shared here that the Sinclair family is currently active in the area of DNA research,

    and, as a result, we are beginning to further our lineal descent based on actual DNA findings.

    A few of the historical names related to this family are Hugh De Payens, the first Grand Master of the Knights Templar,

    and Godfroi (Godfrey) de Boullion, the first ruler of Jerusalem.


    Other affiliated surnames have been Valois, Vermandois, Anjou, deBrus (later became Bruce), Beauchamp, de Clare and Montgomery,

    to name but a few. In addition, there are a multitude of others, all able to trace their ancestry back to Charlemagne,

    with some even to the Davidic line itself.


    In dealing with the Sinclair family and its lineage to the Ulvungar Dynasty, it makes sense to understand the origins of the family.

    More on Ulvungar later.


    The delivery of Hugh Montgomery’s The God-King’s of Europe is said to be a gold mine of truths.

    Upon reading, you will find that these truths are easily displacing the history that was written by the conquerors of the day.

    It has been stated that the Sinclair’s were mere players during these bygone days. In actuality,

    this has never been the case for the Sinclair family; a family that has been involved in the very making of the history

    we have come to know. It has even been suggested, by contemporary authors,

    that the Sinclair family is directly connected to the House of David,

    direct descendants of the Davidic lineage of Jeshua and Mary of Bethany.

    In following this same vein, Montgomery shares the existence of a version of a well-known French manuscript,

    dating from 412-420 AD,

    hereafter referenced as Document 4, from which the following words come.


    “Now it came to pass in those days that a Priestess of the Goddess from the village of Bethany of the Tribe of Benjamin

    and a keeper of the Sacred Doves was affianced to a man called Jeshua for she had served her six years.

    Now Jeshua was of the House of David the King and they were married.


    And Jeshua rebelled against the oppressors against Rome and was defeated, but many Romans were devotees of the Mother

    and were unwilling to kill her priestess who was with child. So Miriam took ship and was secretly smuggled into Gaul

    where she was delivered and there she abode many years. Now she bore a daughter who was exceedingly fair

    and the king of that place looked upon her and demanded that she be his wife but she was promised to the Goddess.

    But the king would not have it so and made her his wife and she bore him a son and a daughter.


    But the Goddess was exceeding wrath for his rape of her daughter and cursed him saying,

    “Thy seed shall be estranged from me and thine inheritance taken from thee. Thy seed shall end by the piercing of an eye

    and so shall thine inheritance cease.

    Yet for the sake of my priestess whom thou ravished shall I forgive thee and thy seed if they fulfill those labors which I shall give them.


    They must fight and capture that which was lost to the oppressors of thy wife though they shall not hold it

    for they shall suffer betrayal (as thou betrayed me).

    Unless one of thy seed shall end the House of their betrayers by piercing the eye of its Liege.

    To this family shall I award greatness if they return to me and from this time to that shall be four and one hundred generations” ”.


    In continuing to focus on the “eye” of the story, we are better able to note a recognizable understanding of the very families

    involved in the crusades and why, perhaps,

    it was felt that Jerusalem had to be rescued from the infidels. In keeping with the aforementioned


    Document 4, might there have been a certain destiny to fulfill? Might this also explain why

    we find these families within the Templar Order?

    Likewise, for the purpose for the Order having been created in the first place?


    Montgomery also speaks about an Abdias Manuscript dating to 120 AD.

    Abdias was the first Bishop of Babylonia in the 1st century. The Catholic Church, however, has claimed that the document was written by

    a French Monk from the 6th century. Montgomery provides three reasons as to why this cannot possibly be true; namely,


    (1) He is mentioned by Eusebius, the Church historian, in his book written in 306 AD.


    (2) Eusebius mentions the Latin text of Julius Africanos and says that it was produced prior to 200 AD.


    (3) The Latin is the rather better Latin of the first and second century AD and not the far more clumsy Latin

    of later dates when Latin was no longer a spoken language.


    Currently held at Dickson College, as part of the Norris Collection, Abdias “wrote 10 sermons, one on each of the Apostles, in Hebrew.

    These were translated into Greek and then later into Latin by Julius Africanos.

    There is some indication that Abdias may have been a member of Jesus’ family” in that he claimed to know various members of this family.

    Montgomery tells us that this Abdias Manuscript is about the Early Church Apostles, particularly Jesus’ brothers and half brothers.


    Looking back throughout history, as depicted through the prophesied words of Mary of Bethany,

    we can identify many corroborated references, which, to my mind,

    further substantiates the validity of Document 4.


    It is important to note that both the “eye piercing” as well as the meaning behind the action had a significant connection

    with the beginning of the decline of the Merovingian House in the 750’s. Having been in power for more than 300 years,

    the Merovingians belonged to one of the early Gaulish Houses, assuming the throne after the fall of the Roman Empire

    in the 4th century.

    Merovingian, named after Merovée, was an Ulvungar through Atualf, the King of the Visigoths in the 3rd century.

    The last of the Merovingian line was Dagobert II. Itis said that his death was brought about in the following manner.

    He was sleeping in the forest and, whilst there, “pierced” in the left eye, ending the Merovingian dynasty.

    The immediate successors, the Mayors of the Palace, had served under the Merovingian kings.

    As a result of their marrying into the Merovingian dynasty, they claimed the right to rule, becoming the Carolingians.


    Earlier in the article I made mention of the Sinclair family and its related lineage to the Ulvungar Dynasty.

    What is the Ulvungar Dynasty? Ulvungar is another name for a Scandinavian family of Royals that some may know as Ylinnlingeatt (Yngling).

    They ruled over vast domains, and, depending on who was in charge, the kingship bounced from Sweden to Norway to Denmark.

    Likewise for the nobles that supported them. They held land in most of the northern countries such as

    Scotland, Orkney, Shetland, Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, as well as Frisia and the Ukraine.

    They not only wanted to seize the Western Empire, but also the Eastern, with the eventual prize being Jerusalem itself.


    Montgomery describes the Ulvungar Dynasty, saying that “... the Odinpeople (Kassites) had fled from somewhere (Mesopotamia),

    finished up in Sweden, and ultimately called the Goths

    . Later a second migration, now mixed with the Benjamite and Elchasaite peoples,

    had fled north again and founded the Ulvungar dynasty of Scandinavia.

    These two events had been telescoped into one legend, as often happens,

    and memory of the persecutions of the Goths by the Roman Army in the 3rd century

    was now remembered as the reason for their fleeing north. Of small things are great events remembered”.


    Another reference to this migration comes from The Holy Blood and The Holy Grail as written by Michael Baigent,

    Richard Leigh and Henry Lincoln. In discussing the Grandmasters of the Priory of Sion, these authors reference Nicholas Flamel, saying that:


    “Around 1361 Flamel, according to his own account, happened upon the alchemical text that was to transform his life.

    Its complete title is both puzzling and interesting

    -- The Sacred Book of Abraham the Jew, Prince, Priest, Levite, Astrologer, and Philosopher to That Tribe of Jews

    who by the Wrath of God were Dispersed amongst the Gauls”.


    As one can see, herein lies additional proof that a certain group of Jews left modern day Israel and migrated to France.

    Flamel is said to have found his “transmutation” after he left Spain, for it was there that he spoke to a Jewish man who had converted.

    He returns home to France, applies what the Jewish man has shown him, becoming very wealthy, owning and building many things.


    Once again, we return to the piercing.


    With Dagobert II out of the way, we see another great figure arise from the Ulvungar Dynasty

    by the name of Harald Hardrada (Harald III of Norway).

    Most historians would say he was a mighty warrior, himself an Ulvungar through lineal descent from Harald Fair-Haired.

    As a child, he was said to have spent time in the court of his cousin, or rather second uncle, Robert II

    (called both The Magnificent as well as The Devil), Duke of Normandy,

    who died on his way back from a pilgrimage in 1035.

    Interestingly enough, one is left to wonder if he had even been on a pilgrimage.

    It is quite possible that Robert may have been laying the groundwork for an invasion, instead!


    While journeying about the Byzantine Empire, Harald kills Michael V by “piercing” his eye.

    He returns just in time to invade England, a full two to three weeks before William, Duke of Normandy.

    Harald lands and is killed in the Battle at Stamford Bridge by King Harold Godwinson of England.

    Harold is also a member of the Ulvungar Dynasty as well as a distant relative to William.

    Interestingly enough, William had been forced to remain along the French coast for six weeks due to bad weather.


    William, the son of Robert II, Duke of Normandy, shared an affiliation to the St. Clair’s of St. Clair-sur-Epte,

    courtesy of his great grandfather Rollo the Viking (also known as Hrólf the Ganger) who signed a treaty with the Carolingian king,

    Charles the Simple, in 911 AD.

    The duchy of Normandy was established and ceded to Rollo, who became the first Duke of Normandy.

    What many do not know is that the descendants of Rollo took the name St. Clair.

    In essence, therefore, the Conqueror was William de St. Clair.


    At the battle that changed history, that being the Battle of Hastings in 1066,

    William was said to have fought for a large part of the day, against Godwinson, a

    lmost coming to a standstill due to the Godwinson camp being unable to move its front line forward.

    In the end, however, it is William that wins the day. Godwinson is supposed to have fallen in this battle,

    due to his injury, and it is this very part of the story that gives further credence to my theory; namely,

    that the Bayeux Tapestry vividly shows the fall of Harold Godwinson as depicted by the arrow “piercing” his right eye!

    Many historians have said that Godwinson did not fall by the arrow,

    which only serves to make one pause just long enough to pose the pertinent question

    – if he did not die in this fashion, why has it been depicted in such a manner?

    In accordance with words of Document 4, we know why.


    Another “piercing” that comes to mind, although deemed accidental, was that of Henri II of France.

    What interests me is that Michel de Nostradame, better known throughout history as Nostradamus,

    foretold the king of his death and how it would occur … by “his eye being pierced”.

    In this instance, the Scottish Guard’s captain, Gabriel de Montgomery, was responsible for the piercing.

    It is important to note that Henri was a Valois, a line that is also related to the St. Clair’s.


    Informed of a fifth event, which provides as much clarity as the other events mentioned to date, such involves William the Conqueror’s son, William II (Rufus), who succeeded his father to the throne. He met his end by a piercing of the eye, giving way to a younger brother Henri who becomes known as Henri I of England. William the Conqueror’s son Richard tries to usurp the throne, with the help of the Montgomery’s and the de Clare’s, direct descendants of the illegitimate son of Richard I, Duke of Normandy, Godfrey, Count d’Eu.


    Does this, then, give further credence to the fact that Nostradamus knew of a plot to kill Henri II of France? Baigent, Lincoln and Leigh think it possible, as do I, for one has to consider the underlying theme. It has been acknowledged that the Mayors of the Palace were responsible for the demise of the Merovingian kings, themselves becoming known as the Carolingians. In keeping with what the fact that the Montgomery’s and the de Clare’s were actively assisting Richard, son of William the Conqueror, in his attempt to commandeer the throne of England, albeit much later and within the same bloodline, is this not similar?


    As has been shared here, we have several instances that have occurred chiefly within the Ulvungar lineage

    -- Dagobert, Harald Hardrada, William the Conqueror and William II (Rufus) were all related.

    In addition, all were connected to the same ritual killing as prophesied by Mary of Bethany in accordance with Document 4.


    In perusing Roland Saint Clair’s book, The Saint Clair’s of the Isles, I tried to locate pieces of information that I may have overlooked.

    Sure enough, I was to find another piece of the puzzle.

    This time, I found myself armed with certain patterns and events.


    I had been telling everyone that I was seeing a historical repeat with certain events

    as first described in Montgomery’s book, namely Document 4.


    The ritual of killing the Liege, with the piercing of his eye, was both uppermost and very obvious in my mind.

    As stated in The Saint Clair’s of the Isles on page 269, Roland Saint Clair makes mention of another related event.

    Involving the usual suspects, this time it is King Canmore (Malcolm III) who is pierced through the left eye,

    by a person that is not named.

    As a result of further delving, I was able to conclude that the children of the person responsible for this particular eye piercing

    took the last name Percy. Eureka! We have the de Percy family!


    During a siege with the Saint Clair’s, the people of Alnwick Castle are starved and at their last,

    an armed man come forth with the keys to the castle.

    He goes directly to the king, through all the men, with a lance.

    At the end of that lance are the keys to the castle.


    The Scottish army let him through in order to present the keys to their king,

    perceiving this to be an act of final submission.

    To the horror of all, the armed man with the lance pierces the Scottish king in the left eye, and he dies.

    A cross near Broomhouse Hill, across the river from the castle, marks the spot where Malcolm III was killed in 1093.


    The Percy’s were descended from a Danish raider by the name of Mainfred.

    I believe Mainfred may have been of rank in Rollo’s army, possibly even related to him,

    as Rollo brought many family members with him to Normandy.

    It suddenly makes sense when we see that the Percy’s received lands from William the Conqueror.


    Quite possibly, William was wanting to lay all others to rest, with this ritual killing.

    Might this have been why Odo gave him the Bayeux Tapestry?

    Whether Harold actually died by the piercing of his eye, as depicted on the Tapestry, one may never know.

    One does, however, see William making an attempt at trying to clean house,

    making sure of his duty to the prophecy of Mary of Bethany.


    In the search for proof in the recounting of these eye piercing events,

    I only have to look at these historical happenings to see what has been hidden.

    There are no coincidences.


    When the Ulvungar and Davidic families seized Jerusalem, they were acting on the prophecy of Mary

    in association with the “inheritance of that which was lost”.

    Involved in the brutal killing of Jew, Muslim, and Christian alike, blood ran as high as a horse’s knee.

    It was their intent to take the city at all costs, an interesting side note being that the Pope

    did not react to this information in a negative sense at all.


    In attempting to better understand the connection to all of these families,

    one begins to wonder what they may have had access to. Did they know of Document 4?

    Might there have been other manuscripts known to these key players?


    It bears saying that with all of the nobility found in Europe,

    there is only one lineage that demonstrates a clear link to the words of Mary of Bethany; that of the Ulvungars. I

    n so doing, it appears as if they attempted to fulfill her prophesied destiny.

    No other family in history has such a unique past that directly connects them to Document 4
    as does the Ulvungar (Yinling) conquest of so many lands, places, and religions.


    In conclusion, Document 4 has clearly been a significant find, perhaps serving

    to shed much light on events that shaped both families and history


    Giving way to what many believe to be of the realm of mythology for a brief moment,

    the earliest recorded reference to a piercing of the eye has come to be associated with Horus,

    the Egyptian God of the sky. In Cracking the Symbol Code, Tim Wallace-Murphy states,

    “Then there is the all seeing ‘Eye of Horus’, a representation of the eye that Horus lost in his battle with Seth”.


    Although we may not be related by blood to a God of Ancient Egypt, could it be that we mortals have come

    to make a philosophical and/or symbolic connection with this Eye of Horus?

    As a matter of interest, it is important to share that Odin, the chief god in Norse mythology,

    is said to also have lost an eye to gain wisdom. Thereafter, he was known as one-eyed Odin.


    When one takes the time to pry further into the historical accuracy of certain events,
    a much truer picture of history starts to emerge. In my observation, it is clear that the Sinclair family
    has much to learn about their own history. Knowing that the mode of death was written in such a fashion,
    as shared within this article, lends more credence to the importance of the tale(s) being spun,
    for those with ears to hear, whether or not they actually happened as written.


    What one has to wonder about the Sinclair family, in light of what has been shared here by this author,
    is what might their inheritance have been?


    Author: Shawn Sinclair




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    Kimberleyann Montgomery but you left out a few things................







    June 7, 2012 at 6:26pm · Like









    Iona Miller write it up, Kim - we have a spot for it.

    June 7, 2012 at 7:33pm · Like · 1



    Kimberleyann Montgomery Tracy and I where gathering more info on this,I need to collect an then put it togather,

    but there is an underlieing story here,should I say? robert has more of the story.....................................





    June 8, 2012 at 8:11am · Like



    Kimberleyann Montgomery you know ..... hint two familys at odds





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    Markus Rodrique Perhaps, the left eye, the Eye of Set, Set-An or Satan, the greatest of all alchemical secrets,

    possibly transmitted to Europe in the time of the Danes or Vikings. hmmmm.
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    The d'Anjou aka Anjou aka Dragon d'Angou
    & The de Vere aka deVere lineages:

    http://www.geni.com/people/Vere-King-of-Anjou-Fictional/6000000002188619463?through=6000000006602636706

    Vere, roi d'Anjou - King of Anjou
    Birth:  circa 700

    Immediate Family:
    Husband of Dragon d'Angou
    Father of Raymond de Vere, count of Anjou

    Curated by:Justin Swanström

    Vere, King of Anjou is your 37th great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Vere-King-of-Anjou-Fictional/6000000002188619463?through=6000000006602636706

    Susan Lynne Schwenger
    You




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother






    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father



    JAMES HANDY
    his father



    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother



    Alexander Ruthven
    her father



    Robert Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Alexander Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father
    is your 11th great grandfather


    William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven
    his father
    is your 12th great grandfather
    http://www.geni.com/people/William-Ruthven/6000000000701212674?through=6000000000701212701

    Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun
    his mother
    is your 12th great grandmother

    Birth: circa April 19, 1503
    Kynard, Perthshire, Scotland
    Daughter of Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun is your 13th great grandfather
    and Margaret Halyburton is your 13th great grandmother




    Catherine Gray of Buttergask - Stewart - Ruthven
    his mother
    is your 13th great grandmother

    William Ruthven, Master of Ruthven
    his father
    is your 13th great grandfather

    Birth: circa July 12, 1478
    Ruthven Castle, Perthshire, Scotland
    Son of William Ruthven, 1st Lord of Ruthven is your 14th great grandfather
    and Lady Mabella [Isabella] Livingstone - Lindsay - Ruthven is your 14th great grandmother



    Elisabeth Stewart, Countess of Argyll
    her mother
    is your 14th great grandmother

    Andrew Gray, 2nd Lord Gray
    her father
    is your 14th great grandfather
    Birth: circa 1446
    Broxmouth, Roxburghshire, Scotland
    Son of Patrick Gray, Master of Gray is your 15th great grandfather
    and Annabella Forbes - Gray is your 15th great grandmother




    John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
    her father
    is your 15th great grandfather

    Margaret Douglas, Fair Maid of Galloway
    her mother
    is your 15th great grandmother
    Birth: 1430
    Eddleston, Scottish Borders, Scotland, United Kingdom
    Daughter of Archibald Douglas, 5th Earl of Douglas; Archibald Stewart of Scotstoun
    is your 14th great grandfather
    and Eupheme Graham, Lady Hamilton is your 14th great grandmother
    http://www.geni.com/people/John-Stewart/6000000005380754889?through=6000000000743955206




    Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots
    his mother
    is your 16th great grandmother

    James Stewart, the Black Knight of Lorn
    his father
    is your 16th great grandather
    Birth: December 30, 1394
    Innermeath,Argyllshire,Scotland
    Son of Sir John Stewart of Innermeath is your 17th great grandfather
    and Isobel MacDougall, of Argyll is your 17th great grandmother




    Margaret Holland, Duchess of Clarence
    her mother
    is your 17th great grandmother

    John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset
    her father
    is your 17th great grandfather
    Birth: 1373
    Château de Beaufort, Anjou
    Son of John Of Gaunt Duke Of Lancaster is your 18th great grandfather
    and Katherine Swynford, Duchess of Lancaster is your 18th great grandmother




    Alice FitzAlan, Countess of Kent
    her mother
    is your 18th great grandmother

    Thomas Holland, 2nd Earl of Kent
    her father
    is your 18th great grandfather
    Birth: 1350
    Upholland, Lancashire, England
    Son of Thomas Holland, 1st Earl of Kent is your 19th great grandfather
    and Joan "The Fair Maid of Kent" Plantagenet is your 19th great grandmother




    Richard FitzAlan, 10th Earl of Arundel
    her father
    is your 19th great grandfather

    Eleanor of Lancaster, Countess of Arundel and Warenne
    her mother
    is your 19th great grandmother
    Birth: circa 1312
    Grismond Castle, Monmouthshire, England
    Daughter of Henry Plantagenet, 3rd Earl of Lancaster is your 20th great grandfather
    and Maud de Chaworth is your 29th great grandmother




    Alice de Warenne, Countess of Arundel
    his mother
    is your 20th great grandmother

    Edmund FitzAlan, 9th Earl of Arundel
    his father
    is your 20th great grandfather
    Birth: May 1, 1285
    Marlbourough Castle, Sussex, England
    Son of Richard FitzAlan, 8th Earl of Arundel is your 21st great grandfather
    and Alice of Saluzzo, Countess of Arundel is your 21st great grandmother




    Joan de Vere
    her mother
    is your 21st great grandmother

    Sir William de Warenne
    her father
    is your 21st great grandfather
    Birth: January 15, 1256
    Warren, Sussex, England
    Son of John de Warenne, 6th Earl of Surrey;
    jean de warenne;
    Alice de Lusignan, Countess of Surrey
    and alice de warenne
    *** check this one, since this is another geni.com battle




    Robert de Vere, 5th Earl of Oxford
    her father
    is your 22nd great grandfather

    Alice de Sanford
    his mother
    is your 22nd great grandfather
    Birth: circa February 22, 1251
    Great Hormede, Hertfordshire, England
    Daughter of Gilbert de Sanford, Lord;
    and LORETTA (LORA) LA ZOUCHE
    http://www.geni.com/people/Robert-de-Vere-5th-Earl-of-Oxford/6000000006181432181?through=6000000006189043542   (check this one - battle on geni.com ???) definitely my lineage - but, what does it go up to ???




    Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford
    his father
    is your 23rd great grandfather

    Hawise de Quincy
    his mother
    is your 23rd great grandmother
    Birth: circa 1178
    Winchester, Hampshire,England
    Daughter of Saier de Quincy, Earl of Winchester, Surety for the Magna Carta
    is your 24th great grandfather
    and Margaret de Beaumont, of Groby is your 24th greatgrandmother




    Robert de Vere, 3rd Earl of Oxford
    his father
    is your 24th great grandfather

    Isabel de Vere
    his mother
    is your 24th great grandmother
    Birth: circa 1164
    England
    Daughter of Hugh de Bolbec is your 25th great grandfather




    Alberic Aubrey de Vere, 1st Earl of Oxford
    his father
    is your 25th great grandfather

    Agnes of Essex
    his mother
    is your 25th great grandmother
    Birth: circa 1151
    Rayleigh, Essex, England
    Daughter of Henry de Essex I, Lord Rayleigh and Haughley is your 26th great grandfather
    and Cecily de Rayleigh is your 26th great grandmother




    Lord Alberic / Aubrey de Vere, Lord of Hedingham Castle, Justiciar of England and Sheriff of London
    his father
    is your 26th great grandfather

    Adelize de Clare
    his mother
    is your 26th great grandmother

    Birth: circa January 1, 1091
    Clare, Essex, England
    Daughter of Gilbert FitzRichard de Clare, 1st Earl of Pembroke is your 27th great grandfather
    and Adeliza de Claremont is your 27th great grandmother




    Alberic / Aubrey "Sanglier" de Vere, Sheriff of Berkshire
    his father
    is your 27th great grandfather

    Beatrice de Bourbourg
    his mother
    is your 27th great grandmother
    Birth: circa February 6, 1040
    of, Ghent, Bourboucy, France
    Daughter of Henri de Bourbourg, Castellan of Bourbourg is your 28th great grandfather
    and Sibylle de Guînes, Countess Of Ghisnes is your 28th great grandmother




    Alphonsus de Vere, comte de Guînes
    his father
    is your 28th great grandfather

    Katherine of Flanders
    his mother
    is your 28th great grandmother
    Birth: circa 1000
    Hedingham, Essex, England
    Daughter of Arnulf II de Jongere, graaf van Vlaanderen (Count of Flanders)
    is your 29th great grandfather
    and Rozala d'Italie, reine consort de France is your 29th great grandmohter

    his mother
    is your 28th great grandmother



    Manassès de Vere, count of Guînes
    his father
    is your 29th great grandfather

    Petronella de Boulogne
    his mother
    is your 29th great grandmother

    Birth: circa 970
    Boulogne Sur Mer,Nord Pas De Calais,,France



    Gallus de Vere, count of Guînes
    his father
    is your 30th great grandfather

    Gertrude de Clermont
    his mother
    is your 30th great grandmother
    Birth: circa 935
    Clermont En Beauvais, Oise,Picardy, France


    Aurelius, count of Guînes
    his father
    is your 31st great grandfather

    Helène de Blois
    his mother
    is your 31st great grandmohter
    Birth: circa 900
    Blois, Loir-et-Cher, Orleanais/Centre, France
    Daughter of Baldwin I de Blois is your 32nd great grandfather
    and Richilde de Bourges is your 32nd great grandmother




    Otho / Eudes de Vere, count of Guînes
    his father
    is your 32nd great grandfather

    Constance de Montlhéry is your 32nd great grandmother
    Birth: circa 865
    Montlhery, Seine-et-Oise, France
    Daughter of Lord of Lord is your 33rd great grandfather




    Nicasius I de Vere de Guînes
    his father
    is your 33rd great grandfather

    Agatha de Champagne
    Birth: 830
    Champagne, Charente-Maritime, Poitou-Charentes, France
    Daughter of Earl de Champaigne is your 34th great grandfather




    Milòn II de Vere, count of Guînes
    his father
    is your 34th great grandfather

    Avelina de Nantes
    his mother
    is your 34th great grandmother
    Birth: circa 795
    Nantes, Pays de la Loire, France
    Daughter of Lambert I de Nantes, duca di Spoleto is your 35th great grandfather
    and Adelheid of Italy is your 35th great grandmother



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    Milòn de Vere, duke of Angiers
    his father
    is your 35th great grandfather

    Bertbelle
    his mother
    is your 35th great grandmother
    Birth: circa 750
    Austrasia, France
    Managed by: Justin Swanström
    Daughter of Pépin III "le Bref", King of the Franks is your 36th great grandfather
    and Bertha Broadfoot of Laon, Queen of the Franks is your 36th great grandmother



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    Raymond de Vere, count of Anjou
    his father
    is your 36th great grandfather

    Melusine is your 36th great grandmother
    Birth: circa 734



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    Vere, King of Anjou
    his father
    is your 37th great grandfather

    Dragon D'Angou
    his mother
    is your 37th great grandmother

    http://www.geni.com/people/Vere-King-of-Anjou-Fictional/6000000002188619463?through=6000000006602636706
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    Post  THEeXchanger Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:57 pm

    Walking between The Worlds - Bilocation - The Final Synthesis ... So, who was The eXchanger from The Original Project Avalon & Camelot ?  Susan Lynne Schwenger - curated lineages - Page 23 Bij83jap_mediumhttp://www.geni.com/people/Blessed-Virgin-Mary/6000000009367004826?through=6000000000795044663


    Blessed Virgin Mary is your 51st great grandmother

    Susan Lynne Schwenger -You




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother






    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father



    JAMES HANDY
    his father



    Marrian Marion Ruthven-Handy-Satchell
    his mother



    Alexander Ruthven
    her father



    Robert Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Alexander Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun
    his mother



    Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun
    her father



    George Halyburton, 3rd/4th Lord Dirletoun
    his father



    Sir John Halyburton
    his father



    Marjorie Stewart Haliburton, Countess of Atholl
    his mother



    Joanna Moray, Lady of Drumersgard
    her mother



    Joan de Menteith
    her mother



    Helena of Mar
    her mother



    Gartnait MacDomhnaill, 7th Earl of Mar
    her father



    Elen ferch Llywelyn
    his mother



    Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Wales
    her father



    Marared verch Madog
    his mother



    Susanna verch Gruffydd
    her mother



    Gruffydd ap Cynan
    her father



    Cynan ap Iago
    his father



    Iago ap Idwal
    his father



    Idwal ap Meurig
    his father



    Meurig ap Idwal, Brenin Gwynedd
    his father



    Idwal Foel ap Anarawd
    his father



    Anarawd ap Rhodri Mawr
    his father



    Rhodri Mawr ap Merfyn
    his father



    Merfyn Frych ap Gwriad
    his father



    Gwriad ap Elidir
    his father



    Elidir ap Sandde
    his father



    Sandde ap Alcwn
    his father



    Alcwn ap Tegid
    his father



    Tegid ap Gwair
    his father



    Morgause (Anna)
    his mother



    Uther ap Custennyn, King of Britons
    her father



    Ivoire (Fictional)
    his mother



    Lancelot of Brittany (Fictional)
    her father



    Jonaans of Brittany (Fictional)
    his father



    Galains (Fictional)
    his father



    Nascien II (Fictional)
    his father



    Narpus (Fictional)
    his father



    Celedoine (Fictional)
    his father



    Nasciens I (Fictional)
    his father



    Elzasus (Fictional)
    his father



    Saint Jude
    his father



    Blessed Virgin Mary
    his mother

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    Miriam / Maria / Mary mary




    Birth:

    -26
    Nazareth, Israel



    Death:

    Israel



    Immediate Family:


    Daughter of Saint Joachim and Saint Anne (Hannah) is your 52nd great grandfather and 52nd great grandmother
    Wife of Saint Joseph is your 51st Great Grandfather
    Partner of
    Jesus of Nazareth; is your 50th great uncle
    Saint James "the Just", 1st Bishop of Jerusalem;is your 50th great uncle
    Joses; is your 50th great uncle
    Saint Jude; is your 50th great grandfather
    Simon; is your 50th great uncle
    Elizabeth; is your 50th great aunt
    Susanna; is your 50th great aunt
    Joanna; is your 50th great aunt
    Sarah; is your 50th great aunt
    Mary; is your 50th great aunt
    Anna; is your 50th great aunt
    Salome; is your 50th great aunt
    Sister of Escha
    Half sister of Saint Mary of Clopas and Mary Salome



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    Post  THEeXchanger Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:57 pm

    lineage back to king solomon

    http://www.geni.com/people/King-Solomon/6000000000961704236?through=6000000000792707260
    King Solomon / שלמה המלך is your 74th great grandfather.




    Solomon / Jedidya / שלמה / ידידיה / سليمان . MP




    Birth:

    circa -1024
    Jerusalem, Israel



    Death:

    circa -975 (49)
    Jerusalem, Israel



    Immediate Family:


    Son of King David / דוד המלך . and Bathsheba / Bathshua / בת-שבע / בת-שוע .is your 75th Great Grandparents
    Husband of ? da Siria; MADRE DE NABAT, SIERVO DE SALOMÓN; up to 300 Wives .;

    Daughter of King Rezon I; Queen of Sheba / מלכת שבא / ملكة سبأ‎; Pharaoh's Daughter / בת-פרעה .

    and Naamah the Amonite/ נעמה העמונית
    Partner of 700 Concubines .
    Father of Menelik I (Ibn El-Hakim) da Ethiopia, Beit Shlomo; Kahtan / Qahtan / Cahtan de Israel; generations;

    Rehoboam / רחבעם King of Judah / מלך יהודה; Shammua and 3 others
    Brother of Nathan / נתן .; Unnamed Infant .; Shimea / שמעא . and Shobab / שובב .
    Half brother of Chileab / Daniel / כלאב / דניאל / Δαλουια / Dalouia .; Amnon / אמנון .; Absalom / אבשלום .;

    Tamar / תמר .; Yitream / יתרעם .; Shephatiah .; Adonijah / אדניה / אדוניהו; Nogah / נגה .; Jerimoth / ירימות .;

    Elishua / אלישוע .; Shammuah / שמוע .; Eliphalet / אליפלט .; Japhia; Eliada; Nepheg / נפג .; Ibhar / יבחר .

    and Elishama / אלישמע .



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    King Solomon / שלמה המלך is your 74th great grandfather.




    Susan Lynne Schwenger

    You



    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother






    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father



    JAMES HANDY
    his father



    Marrian Marion Ruthven-Handy-Satchell
    his mother



    Alexander Ruthven
    her father



    Robert Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Alexander Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun
    his mother



    Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun
    her father



    George Halyburton, 3rd/4th Lord Dirletoun
    his father



    Sir John Halyburton
    his father



    Marjorie Stewart Haliburton, Countess of Atholl
    his mother



    Joanna Moray, Lady of Drumersgard
    her mother



    Joan de Menteith
    her mother



    Helena of Mar
    her mother



    Gartnait MacDomhnaill, 7th Earl of Mar
    her father



    Elen ferch Llywelyn
    his mother



    Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Wales
    her father



    Iorwerth Drwyndwn ap Owain
    his father



    Owain Fawr ap Gruffydd, King of Gwynedd
    his father



    Angharad verch Owain
    his mother



    Morwyl verch Ednywain
    her mother



    Gwerful verch Lluddica
    her mother



    Angharad verch Iago
    her mother



    Iago ap Idwal
    her father



    Idwal Foel ap Anarawd
    his father



    Anarawd ap Rhodri Mawr
    his father



    Rhodri Mawr ap Merfyn
    his father



    Merfyn Frych ap Gwriad
    his father



    Gwriad ap Elidir
    his father



    Elidir ap Sandde
    his father



    Sandde ap Alcwn
    his father



    Alcwn ap Tegid
    his father



    Tegid ap Gwair
    his father



    Morgause (Anna)
    his mother



    Uther ap Custennyn, King of Britons - The Head Dragon - Pendragon
    her father



    Ivoire
    his mother



    Lancelot of Brittany
    her father



    Jonaans of Brittany
    his father



    Galains
    his father



    Nascien II
    his father



    Narpus
    his father



    Celedoine
    his father



    Nasciens I
    his father



    Elzasus
    his father



    Saint Jude
    his father



    Saint Joseph
    his father



    Jacob
    his father



    Matthan
    his father



    Eleazar
    his father



    Elihud
    his father



    Achim
    his father



    Zadok
    his father



    Azor
    his father



    Eliakim
    his father



    Abner
    his father



    Abiud
    his father



    Zerubbabel, 3rd Exilarch / זרובבל
    his father



    Shealtiel, 2nd Exilarch / שאלתיאל
    his father



    Jechoniah / Yehoakhin / יהויכין / יכניה King of Judah / מלך יהודה
    his father



    Jehoiakim/ Yehoahaz / יהויקים King of Judah / מלך יהודה
    his father



    Josiah / Josias / יאשיהו King of Judah / מלך יהודה
    his father



    Jedidah / ידידה .
    his mother



    Jehosheba / יהושבע .
    her mother



    Jehoram / יהורם King of Judah / מלך יהודה, מלך יהודה
    her father



    Jehosaphat / יהושפט King of Judah / מלך יהודה
    his father



    Asa King of Judah / אסא מלך יהודה
    his father



    Abijah / אביה King of Judah / מלך יהודה
    his father



    Rehoboam / רחבעם King of Judah / מלך יהודה
    his father



    King Solomon / שלמה המלך
    his father

    74th Great Grandfather

    Naamah the Amonite/ נעמה העמונית is your 74th Great Grandmother

    Birth: -990
    Ammon
    Daughter of Hanun / Zelek King of Amon is your 75th Great Grandfather

    http://www.geni.com/people/King-Solomon/6000000000961704236?through=6000000000792707260

    King David / דוד המלך is your 75th Great Grandfather

    and Bathsheba / Bathshua / בת-שבע / בת-שוע . is your 75th Great Grandfather
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    COREY otf Lake says: Lake coat of arms, it represents Defense, the crosses in the field represent the crusades,

    it is one of the 6 original ancient arms, even in the time of Arthur, it is one of 12 of the round table and all 12 arms are close cousins related.

    It has never been used in offense, only defense.

    Susan Lynne Schwenger how does Pendragon fit into all of this ? what are the other 5 ancient arms ? and, what are the other11 arms ?

    very interesting stuff

    Corey answers:

    Norwegian, Denmark, Sweden, Frankish, Gauti(Goth), Anglo-Saxon (Kent, Mercia, Essex, etc.)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendragon

    - the 11 arms are the knights of the round table but they are all closely related,

    there were many other arms represented at that time already, this one shows 26 arms:

    Pendragon or Pen Draig (pronounced Thriag), meaning in Welsh "head dragon" or "chief dragon"

    (a figurative title referring to status as a leader), is the name of several traditional Kings of the Britons:
    ◦Ambrosius Aurelianus, son of Constantine II of Britain, called "Pendragon" in the Vulgate Cycle
    ◦Uther, brother of Aurelius and father of King Arthur, is called Uther Pendragon
    ◦because he was inspired by a dragon-shaped comet (In the Vulgate, he took the name from his brother)
    ◦King Arthur, son of Uther
    ◦Maelgwn of Gwynedd, described by Gildas as the "dragon of the island"

    In the Historia Regum Britanniae, one of the earliest texts of the Arthurian legend,

    only Uther is given the surname "Pendragon", which is explained as meaning "dragon's head".

    In the prose version of Robert de Boron's Merlin, the name of Uther's elder brother Ambrosius is given as "Pendragon",

    while Uter (Uther) changes his name after his brother's death to "Uterpendragon".

    The use of "Pendragon" to refer to Arthur, rather than to Uther or his brother, is of much more recent vintage.

    In literature, one of its earliest uses to refer to Arthur is in Alfred Tennyson's poem Lancelot and Elaine, where,

    however, it appears as a title of Arthur rather than as a surname, following contemporary speculation that "pendragon"

    had been a term for an ancient British war-chief.

    The term "Pen Dragon" also is a Fennian (Ephraimite) form meaning, Pen "child(ren) of" Ap "Son of"

    combined with "Dargon" or "Dragon" the symbol of the Tuatha de Dannon (Danites)

    who were warriors that married the Irish widows, hence the Gaullo term Welch (Ue Lach) or "woman of a warrior."



    The Knights of the Round Table
    [img]http://www.forrester-roberts.co.uk/images/lg/knights_round_table_lg.jpg[/img
    King Arthur

    Dark Age Warrior to Mythical Archetype

    Merlin the magical shape-changer never contrived a more striking transformation

    than the change time has wrought on Arthur - that rough and ready Celtic commander,

    enthroned forever now as the doomed king of a medieval never-never land, clinging to shining ideals in a gathering dark.



    For a few brief years perhaps, he held back the pagan invaders whilst the Celtic church in Wales

    was busy sending forth missionaries to found churches and monasteries in dark-age Europe.

    Alas! their gentle brand of Celtic Christianity, which had grown so naturally out of paganism,

    was not to last. Behind the Saxons rolled the Church of Rome and Celtic Christianity was shouldered out.

    Their missionary saints soon became a distant memory. Even so, Arthur and his band of warriors were not forgotten.

    Something about their bearing was remembered by the invaders after they were overwhelmed.

    They took them to their hearts, romanticised their image and adopted Arthur as their own.

    He became the prototype for generations of Englishmen. Their ideal suffused and empire.

    The legends that gathered around him filled a treasure house with poetry, music and artistic inspiration.

    Even today he continues to inspire; for the King who gave rise to so many stories has become almost divine;

    a fragment of the old gods dressed up in medieval finery.


    Click on the links below
    for more information about
    charts, maps and books
    relating to King Arthur:
    ◦Land of Arthur
    ◦Arthurian Geneology
    ◦The Fisher King
    ◦The Challenges
    ◦Knights of the
    Round Table
    ◦Symbols of the
    Grail Quest
    ◦Winchester Panels
    ◦La Bretagne Enchantee
    ◦Tristan & Iseult book
    ◦Once and Future King

    Rome had come like the ‘Sorcerer's Apprentice’ and chopped up the old broom,

    but the broom sprang to life again; an army of smaller figures with an aura of magic around them.

    For Arthur and his many-faceted warrior knights reflect timeless aspects we feel in ourselves.

    Their problems strike responsive chords in all of us; chords that echo far beneat

    the veneer of society and reach down to our ancient pagan roots.

    Underneath the shining armour of respectability, the rough hewn old warriors are still there in every one of us,

    only like the well worn stones of a riverbed, they have taken on a fine polish with the passing years.

    Deep within, Arthur and his knights lie slumbering still, unchanged beneath our ever changing surface, waiting for our call.

    http://www.forrester-roberts.co.uk/arthur.html

    http://www.forrester-roberts.co.uk/magnify/knights_round_table.html
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    legend of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table is known worldwide

    but for me it has special significance

    as I live in the hills and mountains where Camelot is thought to have been built.

    Here is a representation of Arthur and his Knights,

    standing beside the Blue Lake below Cader Idris.

    From left to right they are

    Gawaine, Bors de Ganis, Percival, Gaheris, Arthur, Galahad, Lancelot, Gareth and Lamorak.


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    Post  THEeXchanger Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:02 pm

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    the heart with white shield is the Hagerman arms

    the yellow/red squares is also de Clare


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