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    Post  Carol on Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:34 pm

    Gita wrote:

    Thanks for sending me a fictional character - blond hair, blue eyes no less!! - well in line with your racist GFL aka Galactic F***ing Leaches!

    OK

    yea sure whatever!!!

    It was user trancoso that got the bird flipped from me not you. yet you say that way i have been treating you. well i think you mean trancoso oh wait...same thing. NWO SCUM!!!

    Laughing at children being injured and people being killed!!! I do not support your wars!!!

    I had you marked for a dis information agent the first post you made to me!!!

    and you are in MY COURT!!!

    but i am not a judge!!!

    i am a TEACHER!!!

    can you see the difference yet!!!

    YOU WILL!!!

    YOUR PITIFUL APOLOGY IS NOT ACCEPTED!!!

    LOL

    I know who my friends are!

    JT!

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    Post  Carol on Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:37 pm

    Gita
    Stop dragging Trancoso in to this you idiot or anyone else for that matter. No one laughed at those pictures you piece of crap – those people that your government are slaughtering are my neighbours – they’ve been my neighbours before USA was even dreamt of. You are the scum for letting your homicidal government carry out this atrocities in your name. It’s shyte like you who has elected evil shytes and it’s YOU who are funding their illegal wars and the best you can do is go into forums and disrupt any fun you come across – this you idiot makes you the disinfo agent and the NWO scum. You and your elected government are pure scum so stick this in your crack pipe and smoke it.
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    Post  Carol on Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:43 pm

    JT
    Gita wrote:

    Stop dragging Trancoso in to this you idiot or anyone else for that matter. No one laughed at those pictures you piece of crap – those people that your government are slaughtering are my neighbours – they’ve been my neighbours before USA was even dreamt of. You are the scum for letting your homicidal government carry out this atrocities in your name. It’s shyte like you who has elected evil shytes and it’s YOU who are funding their illegal wars and the best you can do is go into forums and disrupt any fun you come across – this you idiot makes you the disinfo agent and the NWO scum. You and your elected government are pure scum so stick this in your crack pipe and smoke it.



    I don’t know anyone who will go in search of photos of babies and children being blown up and then scatter them amongst people who are actually aware of it. You must get a real kick out of looking for these pics and I bet it is you who laughs at them along side your scumbag government – why else would you continue to payroll these murders – you fool.

    Well now...i am glad you are beginning to ask the right questions!!!

    its about damn time!!! all fun and games you think!!!

    I don't EVEN VOTE!!! for your NWO scum buddies in office!!!

    In fact I dont have any money and i sure do not fund your war machine!!!

    what do you post...stupid humans with tin foil hats!!! all part of your dis info agenda
    I posted those photos to shut your ignorance up!!! To make you look at the evil you have unleashed on innocent people!!!
    Children killed coming home from school!!! Missing limbs!!!
    from your stupid greedy reptilian BS!!! for what!!! Oil!!! Money!!! Power!!!
    I DO NOT SUPPORT YOUR WARS!!!
    you can say what ever you want about me!!! im the jester!! it dose not phase me. You do not poses the super funk power like me!!!
    you can not stop the truth from coming to light!!! I know who my friends are and they know where i stand!!!
    FOR PEACE LOVE AND ETERNAL GROOVIENESS!!!

    JUST GOTTA GET A LITTLE PHIYRED UP!!!AND PUT NWO SCUM LIKE YOU IN YOUR PLACE!!!

    what do i post!!! real pictures of the evil you have committed against humanity!!!

    Do you want them in a PM so as to see the crimes your war machine has commited!!!

    the title of this thread you/trancoso started is ridiculous!!!

    as i said!!!! you owe me and the people of Shan an apology!!!

    and i demand it now!!!

    Much Love

    JT!

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    Isn't this so much fun...making fun of my space friends!!!

    hahaha
    JT
    Gita wrote:

    Stop dragging Trancoso in to this you idiot or anyone else for that matter. No one laughed at those pictures you piece of crap – those people that your government are slaughtering are my neighbours – they’ve been my neighbours before USA was even dreamt of. You are the scum for letting your homicidal government carry out this atrocities in your name. It’s shyte like you who has elected evil shytes and it’s YOU who are funding their illegal wars and the best you can do is go into forums and disrupt any fun you come across – this you idiot makes you the disinfo agent and the NWO scum. You and your elected government are pure scum so stick this in your crack pipe and smoke it.



    I don’t know anyone who will go in search of photos of babies and children being blown up and then scatter them amongst people who are actually aware of it. You must get a real kick out of looking for these pics and I bet it is you who laughs at them along side your scumbag government – why else would you continue to payroll these murders – you fool.

    Well now...i am glad you are beginning to ask the right questions!!!

    its about damn time!!! all fun and games you think!!!

    I don't EVEN VOTE!!! for your NWO scum buddies in office!!!

    In fact I dont have any money and i sure do not fund your war machine!!!

    what do you post...stupid humans with tin foil hats!!! all part of your dis info agenda
    I posted those photos to shut your ignorance up!!! To make you look at the evil you have unleashed on innocent people!!!
    Children killed coming home from school!!! Missing limbs!!!
    from your stupid greedy reptilian BS!!! for what!!! Oil!!! Money!!! Power!!!
    I DO NOT SUPPORT YOUR WARS!!!
    you can say what ever you want about me!!! im the jester!! it dose not phase me. You do not poses the super funk power like me!!!
    you can not stop the truth from coming to light!!! I know who my friends are and they know where i stand!!!
    FOR PEACE LOVE AND ETERNAL GROOVIENESS!!!

    JUST GOTTA GET A LITTLE PHIYRED UP!!!AND PUT NWO SCUM LIKE YOU IN YOUR PLACE!!!

    what do i post!!! real pictures of the evil you have committed against humanity!!!

    Do you want them in a PM so as to see the crimes your war machine has commited!!!

    the title of this thread you/trancoso started is ridiculous!!!

    as i said!!!! you owe me and the people of Shan an apology!!!

    and i demand it now!!!

    Much Love

    JT!

    INTERDIMENSIONAL FEDERATION OF FREE PLANETS


    Isn't this so much fun...making fun of my space friends!!!

    hahaha
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    Post  Carol on Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:45 pm

    MP3
    A point of balance is always within reach. But the balance point will usually be found closer to the middle, rather than anywhere near the outside extremes, in this dimension, anyway.

    So if the intention is to find balance and harmony, emphasis on if...., then a good question might be, "what can I do to meet ________ half way?"

    I think it would require at least some attempt at "trying on" the other sides perspective. IE looking from their eyes or walking in their shoes.

    When I do that, I see, on the one hand, a few people who reject the GFL stuff for reasons of their own, and an attempt to use some humour, and some slightly mean spirited derision, to point out the incongruities and inconsistencies they perceive in the messages, and messengers, and perhaps to poke fun at the source(s) of the information and those who like to present or forward the information. For my tastes, it could be a bit more mirthful and a bit less mean spirited, to be an effective parody. And although I don't personally find it very funny, as I see at least one person objecting very strongly, I can still see how others without anything personally invested in one view or another, might be amused by the little stage play.

    On the other hand, I see a nice guy, with a ton of love in his heart, fighting a perceived attempt at undermining part of his message. JT provides his own disclaimers when he posts these messages. It's not like he's saying "This is absolute truth and thou shalt believe!!!!" It's more like, "this is kind of a cool message, and although I can't verify any of it, I got something out of it, and maybe you will too..." And I see him take notice when someone is making fun of something he sees as a potentially positive message, and taking exception to that activity.

    Assumptions are tricky things. You can only practice assumption, where you don't know, right? If you knew, you wouldn't have to assume. You can feel strongly about your assumptions, but that doesn't make the object of the assumption any more known. Just more strongly attracted magnetically to some emotion or another. these things get pretty squashed together in people who have yet to do the bulk of their clearing work. They can't really tell the difference between things that are entirely different. And that can make reasoning with them akin to a magic act.

    It's kind of amusing to watch people pushing apart from one another, while at the same time watching their magnetic emotions dragging them inexorably towards one another. It's the old "just can't walk away". We all know this place. Nobody is, or has been immune. It's held in place, actively. Nobody else is holding their opponent in the ring. It's mutual, and each participant holds their own face to the screen and fingers on the keyboard.

    I'd suggest the Ad Hom comments would tend to push farther apart, while refusing to release the magnetism. Not exactly the route towards balance and harmony.

    Choice is king, and empress. What are you choosing? And is that what you really want?

    Love you all,
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    Post  Carol on Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:47 pm

    JT
    mp3 wrote:A point of balance is always within reach. But the balance point will usually be found closer to the middle, rather than anywhere near the outside extremes, in this dimension, anyway.

    So if the intention is to find balance and harmony, emphasis on if....,
    then a good question might be, "what can I do to meet ________ half
    way?"

    I think it would require at least some attempt at "trying
    on" the other sides perspective. IE looking from their eyes or walking
    in their shoes.

    When I do that, I see, on the one hand, a few
    people who reject the GFL stuff for reasons of their own, and an
    attempt to use some humour, and some slightly mean spirited derision,
    to point out the incongruities and inconsistencies they perceive in the
    messages, and messengers, and perhaps to poke fun at the source(s) of
    the information and those who like to present or forward the
    information. For my tastes, it could be a bit more mirthful and a bit
    less mean spirited, to be an effective parody. And although I don't
    personally find it very funny, as I see at least one person objecting
    very strongly, I can still see how others without anything personally
    invested in one view or another, might be amused by the little stage
    play.

    On the other hand, I see a nice guy, with a ton of love
    in his heart, fighting a perceived attempt at undermining part of his
    message. JT provides his own disclaimers when he posts these messages.
    It's not like he's saying "This is absolute truth and thou shalt
    believe!!!!" It's more like, "this is kind of a cool message, and
    although I can't verify any of it, I got something out of it, and maybe
    you will too..." And I see him take notice when someone is making fun
    of something he sees as a potentially positive message, and taking
    exception to that activity.

    Assumptions are tricky things. You
    can only practice assumption, where you don't know, right? If you knew,
    you wouldn't have to assume. You can feel strongly about your
    assumptions, but that doesn't make the object of the assumption any
    more known. Just more strongly attracted magnetically to some emotion
    or another. these things get pretty squashed together in people who
    have yet to do the bulk of their clearing work. They can't really tell
    the difference between things that are entirely different. And that can
    make reasoning with them akin to a magic act.

    It's kind of
    amusing to watch people pushing apart from one another, while at the
    same time watching their magnetic emotions dragging them inexorably
    towards one another. It's the old "just can't walk away". We all know
    this place. Nobody is, or has been immune. It's held in place,
    actively. Nobody else is holding their opponent in the ring. It's
    mutual, and each participant holds their own face to the screen and
    fingers on the keyboard.

    I'd suggest the Ad Hom comments would
    tend to push farther apart, while refusing to release the magnetism.
    Not exactly the route towards balance and harmony.

    Choice is king, and empress. What are you choosing? And is that what you really want?

    Love you all,
    MP3


    Well said MP3 thank you for some sanity in the middle of the insanity

    Here come some balance alright!!! I can not prove anything!!!

    GET WHOLE BRAINED!!! AND DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!!!



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    JT
    mp3 wrote:A point of balance is always within reach. But the balance point will usually be found closer to the middle, rather than anywhere near the outside extremes, in this dimension, anyway.

    So if the intention is to find balance and harmony, emphasis on if....,
    then a good question might be, "what can I do to meet ________ half
    way?"

    I think it would require at least some attempt at "trying
    on" the other sides perspective. IE looking from their eyes or walking
    in their shoes.

    When I do that, I see, on the one hand, a few
    people who reject the GFL stuff for reasons of their own, and an
    attempt to use some humour, and some slightly mean spirited derision,
    to point out the incongruities and inconsistencies they perceive in the
    messages, and messengers, and perhaps to poke fun at the source(s) of
    the information and those who like to present or forward the
    information. For my tastes, it could be a bit more mirthful and a bit
    less mean spirited, to be an effective parody. And although I don't
    personally find it very funny, as I see at least one person objecting
    very strongly, I can still see how others without anything personally
    invested in one view or another, might be amused by the little stage
    play.

    On the other hand, I see a nice guy, with a ton of love
    in his heart, fighting a perceived attempt at undermining part of his
    message. JT provides his own disclaimers when he posts these messages.
    It's not like he's saying "This is absolute truth and thou shalt
    believe!!!!" It's more like, "this is kind of a cool message, and
    although I can't verify any of it, I got something out of it, and maybe
    you will too..." And I see him take notice when someone is making fun
    of something he sees as a potentially positive message, and taking
    exception to that activity.

    Assumptions are tricky things. You
    can only practice assumption, where you don't know, right? If you knew,
    you wouldn't have to assume. You can feel strongly about your
    assumptions, but that doesn't make the object of the assumption any
    more known. Just more strongly attracted magnetically to some emotion
    or another. these things get pretty squashed together in people who
    have yet to do the bulk of their clearing work. They can't really tell
    the difference between things that are entirely different. And that can
    make reasoning with them akin to a magic act.

    It's kind of
    amusing to watch people pushing apart from one another, while at the
    same time watching their magnetic emotions dragging them inexorably
    towards one another. It's the old "just can't walk away". We all know
    this place. Nobody is, or has been immune. It's held in place,
    actively. Nobody else is holding their opponent in the ring. It's
    mutual, and each participant holds their own face to the screen and
    fingers on the keyboard.

    I'd suggest the Ad Hom comments would
    tend to push farther apart, while refusing to release the magnetism.
    Not exactly the route towards balance and harmony.

    Choice is king, and empress. What are you choosing? And is that what you really want?

    Love you all,
    MP3


    Well said MP3 thank you for some sanity in the middle of the insanity

    Here come some balance alright!!! I can not prove anything!!!

    GET WHOLE BRAINED!!! AND DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!!!



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    Post  Carol on Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:49 pm

    SuiGeneris wrote:Please stop all this personal aggression. Thank you.

    SuiG♥️

    ok.

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    I would also ask tho that the planned intention of the thread be stopped. The title itself is a mockery!

    I would suggest that people do their own research and back it up with facts!!!

    Have a wonderful day.

    Peace JT!
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    Post  Carol on Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:53 pm

    stardustaquarion

    I personally think that people has the right (still but not for long!) to express their oppinions. The Galactic Federation of Light have betrayed humankind many times, that is what is shown by the CDT plates. The information is in Voyagers II

    I don't think we need to bow to anyone and I find them patronizing and arrogant. Their messages are always disempowering, we are "punny humans" that don't deserve their efforts. So much for egalitarism and equality. They are "going to rescue us" with their space ships, yeah right. So many cathaclisms have happened and they seem to have been sleeping on their rounds or they only rescue blond blue eyed people?

    Jester, I love you and respect you because you are you. I love you no matter whether you like the GLF or not but we have the right to mock them if we wish, we are doing no harm to anyone it is just a laugh as many laugh about Obama, or Brown etc

    This is the galactic federation of lies thread, why don't you make your own thread with the galactic federation of light and we can live side by side like there is one thread for the Thuban material and another for Keylontic Sciences

    Peace man

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    Post  Carol on Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:54 pm

    MP3
    another thread sounds like a good idea. Has anyone really taken up the facts? Jester says to "do your own research". What is the product of such research? I haven't researched myself, so I'd be curious if anyone has, and has any reliable information to share. The problem I see is that credible information would be hard to come by, and it would still boil down to personal belief and assumption. It would still be a question of what resonates, personally. Perhaps campaigns against, are no more advisable than campaigns for. For/against, is so old by now, from my perspective.

    If I look at any of those messages, I see some information I can use, and I also see an undercurrent that does not have a high vibrational ring to it. Hierarchical structures, and instructions to earthlings, would never happen when engaged with beings of higher dimensional frequency ranges. It's only the lower 4th and 3rd dimensions that can hold those thought forms, of power, control, status, etc. So from the get go, I see a mixed bag. Nothing inherently good or bad. just some stuff to look at, and exercise discernment on.

    But I can't see blind support or blanket rejection as wise. Even if it were to be dis info, there is still the chance that synchronicity could occur and someone might read exactly what they needed to at the exact right time, to finally start the alarm clock ringing in their ears.

    It's never all the way one way or another, unless one is totally polarized.
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    Post  Carol on Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:57 pm

    Gita
    MP3, I am all for meeting in the middle but when there are blatant lies about how I’ve issued death threats to someone who’s not even worse my time and how I enjoy watching dead children blah blah over and over and over again then I’m forced to say something. I let it go for so long but there comes a time when you have to mirror some people’s crap back on themselves and give them a taste of their own medicine. I am all for love and light but that doesn’t mean I’m a doormat – far from it.



    This has nothing to do with GFL and everything to do with insults and lies coming out of someone’s gob repeatedly. I am all for people choosing whoever they want to believe or follow or kiss as$ but keep personal attacks out of it. Also may I remind some people here that this thread was opened as some light relief and as a joke hence the title Galactic Fed of LIES. Those that want to take it seriously can go and open up their own thread and discuss whatever they please.



    As far as you seeing a guy with ‘nothing but love’ in his heart – please show me where in any of his degrading posts has he been tolerant and loving. He continuously calls humans ignorant and his posts have no premise for any of his arguments much alone any logic. We all can go and open a thread on ‘Able to Love’ and try and give the impression that that’s what we are about but there are those who prove themselves to be the opposite and just use that thread to hide behind their true selves.



    I’m not being fooled by any of it and will not pretend that I am just to please others who chose the more comfortable path which is littered by disillusion. We are dealing with nothing more than a drama queen here who loves playing the victim. Someone who tries to defend his actions by telling more lies such as how he’s had a nervous breakdown – total BS - but this is exactly how drama queens and attention seekers get attention – by completely manipulating other’s feeling and perception in order to get sympathy and by the looks of it, it’s working very nice for him. Some of us find it easier to see through such people than others as our BS meters is constantly being maintained!



    Remember this was meant to be a comedy thread but the fool had to go and wreck that as well whilst trying to get sympathy – oh what a clever fool but you don’t fool me – you fool!!!
    !!!
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    Post  Carol on Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:00 pm

    Gita
    JesterTerrestrial wrote:

    Well now...i am glad you are beginning to ask the right questions!!!

    its about damn time!!! all fun and games you think!!!

    I don't EVEN VOTE!!! for your NWO scum buddies in office!!!

    In fact I dont have any money and i sure do not fund your war machine!!!

    what do you post...stupid humans with tin foil hats!!! all part of your dis info agenda
    I posted those photos to shut your ignorance up!!! To make you look at the evil you have unleashed on innocent people!!!
    Children killed coming home from school!!! Missing limbs!!!
    from your stupid greedy reptilian BS!!! for what!!! Oil!!! Money!!! Power!!!
    I DO NOT SUPPORT YOUR WARS!!!
    you can say what ever you want about me!!! im the jester!! it dose not phase me. You do not poses the super funk power like me!!!
    you can not stop the truth from coming to light!!! I know who my friends are and they know where i stand!!!
    FOR PEACE LOVE AND ETERNAL GROOVIENESS!!!

    JUST GOTTA GET A LITTLE PHIYRED UP!!!AND PUT NWO SCUM LIKE YOU IN YOUR PLACE!!!

    what do i post!!! real pictures of the evil you have committed against humanity!!!

    Do you want them in a PM so as to see the crimes your war machine has commited!!!

    the title of this thread you/trancoso started is ridiculous!!!

    as i said!!!! you owe me and the people of Shan an apology!!!

    and i demand it now!!!

    Much Love

    JT!

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    Isn't this so much fun...making fun of my space friends!!!

    hahaha




    Well fool maybe you should’ve voted and made yourself heard where it actually mattered – even if you just voted to get your own scum out of your own government – it’s not my government you freak – I don’t even live in US! Your lack of logic is beyond illogical – fool. And you are an idiot to think that you’re not helping financially towards this illegal war that your government has dragged you into. Unless you live in the wilderness then they find a way of taxing you and your welfare!



    As for your posting those diabolical pics on a comedy thread – you must have thought them to be hilarious as that’s why in your warped mind you decided to post them in the most inappropriate place. Why don’t you go and post those pics all over your streets and on your evil government buildings instead of going onto a thread where people are having fun and completely ruining it for everyone. You must be proud of yourself - you inappropriate immature fool. What has dying children have anything to do with people having fun or is that not allowed in your miserable world?



    All of us on these forums carry heavy weight with all the negative knowledge we posses and the continuous frustrations we have to put up with daily – so a thread that was actually bringing laughter to loads of people was a welcomed break but oh no – the fool couldn’t have people laughing and releasing some tension in order that we can function in this 3D – you had to go and crap all over it and then play dumb and tell the mods you’ve gone and had a nervous breakdown so we all feel sorry for you. As a professional in mental health, you sure do have problems but I don’t see any evidence of a nervous breakdown.



    As I keep saying, you can wait for this so called apology til hell freezes over. I have done nothing to apologise to you much alone the same people I do energy healing for on a daily basis for many years.

    And if your space friends can’t handle fun at their expense then they are more egotistical than I originally thought they were. Ego and spirituality cannot exist in the same space – fool Any being with no sense of humour has no love in their heart.

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    Post  Carol on Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:03 pm

    Mercuriel

    Additionally,

    Courtney Brown (An RV'er) plus others such as Myself HAVE RV'ed a Galactic Federation of United Worlds as an Entity or Body of Sovereigns. That said - They do exist but have relayed to RV'ers that most of the channelings are either Humans with an Agenda or Dark Spirits with an Agenda as well.

    That They work for Our Ascension there is no doubt - But no assistance in the form of open contact will be attempted until We walk away from Our Weapons of War and learn to de-polarize...

    Addtionally - Until Mankind works on It's Phychic Skills that contact - If any - Will be very limited.

    There is a feature that can be used here by Members at these Forums and thats the "Friends & Foes" Page which allows those not in congruence with each other to essentially Ignore each other. I suggest those in this Thread having a Problem with another and unable to solve those Problems - USE IT...

    Otherwise this is only an exercise in Polarity and Polarists are Spotlighting Themselves by this continued Argument.

    This is a place to have open and honest discussion. If a Beef comes from another place - It should stay there - Plain and Simple. The AdMods here have worked hard to provide a place for discussions such as this to occur but if this continued abuse of another continues in this Thread - One or more of Three things will have to occur.

    1. The Thread will be closed.

    2. Protagonists will be warned.

    3. Protagonists may be Banned for continued Violation of the Rules (No abuse - Vulgarity - Or P
    orn).

    Now One may say - "What have I seen here so far ?"

    Vulgarity and Abuse. So two out of three are occurring in this Thread and it must stop or the AdMods will be invoked.

    Understand this - WARNING ISSUED...

    Our next action will not be a Warning. And understand - We dislike having to Post a Message like this but If People will not Govern Themselves accordingly respecting each others right to agree or disagree - Then what else are We left with as AdMods ?

    Protagonists have been counseled - Not Listened or saw the reason of the Counseling - And have therefore left no choice but to Issue a Warning.

    Please do not Invoke the AdMods here further...
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    Post  Carol on Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:30 pm

    Just a note: It has taken 3 hours of my morning to move and delete posts for this thread.

    JT you owe me! You can start my helping move threads from Invision to here.
    lol!
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    Post  Carol on Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:40 pm

    Gita
    mp3 wrote:

    Well, you two have been pushing each others buttons pretty hard, haven't you? I know JT in real life. Been out to his Market a few times, and he really is a sweet guy. If you met him personally, you couldn't continue to hold the view of him that you have. And I'm sure the same would be true for you.

    There has to be at least SOME measure of misunderstanding here.

    MP3, he's been pushing my buttons as well as his own and as well as everyone else’s. It’s commendable that you should stick up for your friend but sometimes friends would tell each other that some of their behaviour towards others is unacceptable. I suspect you are not aware of all that’s been going on but from what you’ve seen here and what jester has told you which I also suspect would have been said to show himself in a better light but that’s just human nature and I can accept that.


    For a very long time I showed jester nothing but love and tolerance and on many many many occasions asked for the same in return. Had he not pushed it over the accepted limit in actually throwing out lies about my so called enjoyment in children’s death then I would’ve continued to let it go. I do a lot of work behind the scenes on these horrific matters but choose not to broadcast it. But as I said, I am not a spiritual whore nor am I a door mat and I was left no choice but to defend myself and give him a taste of his own medicine. I’m pretty sure it left a sour taste in his mouth.

    For the record, I have not been warned at any time by anyone/mods on this forum, AV1 or AV2 which just proves my point. Also please note this does not give me any pleasure and I would’ve rather not arrived to this point we find ourselves at.

    MP3, make no mistakes, I am a good, kind and tolerant person but I will not allow others to continually attack me – I just don’t work like that and am pretty sure that you and many othrs here are the same.

    Also with respect, there is another thread where you can post your views about this. If you really wish for me to view your concerns on the designated thread then please PM me and bring my attention to it and I will be more than happy to have a look at it.

    Much respect and peace to you.
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    Post  Carol on Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:44 pm

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    the title of this thread you/trancoso started is ridiculous!!!

    as i said!!!! you owe me and the people of Shan an apology!!!

    and i demand it now!!!

    Much Love


    I'm going to ask you one question here........did you read what you posted here?

    I'm not going to get dragged into this fight, far too emotional for me and just the thing that I thought I had escaped, but I guess this nonsense follows one.

    I guess it's time to leave this thread alone, it's degenerated far too rapidly into mindless squabble and just too much noise.

    Enlightened being? I think not. Spoilt brat? Perhaps.

    A sign of maturity is when one allows another to be whom they want to be without the imposition of your personal desires, beliefs and will over theirs. That is not happening here. What I do see however, is a child crying, no....screaming.... out to be heard at any cost "MOMMY MOMMY MOMMY, LOOK AT ME" whilst pushing the other kids head into the sand.

    So sad really. This is the behaviour I would expect from an undisciplined 8 year old kid, not a grown up claiming illumination and the desire to save a dying humanity. Now, in retrospect to what I said to you yesterday I have to say this....If you are in any manner shape or form representative of the GFOL, then personally I want nothing to do with it because by your behaviour, it is obviously no better than the cheap store-bought religion that is being peddled to the mindless masses commonly referred to as sheeple.

    No I definitely will not sign off "with love" to this one because all I feel is nauseated. Really.

    Having said that, please, do go on. Why allow rationality to hold sway when mindless hate is so much easier?

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    Post  Gita on Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:48 pm

    Carol, your hard work is greatly appreciated. Here's a whole field of flowers just for you angel. xx

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    And a bit more extra. xx
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    Post  Carol on Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:11 pm

    ooooooooh, they're lovely! Thank you so much. Flowers
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    Post  Gita on Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:35 pm

    Carol wrote:ooooooooh, they're lovely! Thank you so much. Flowers

    You more than deserve them for putting up with today's crap. Pass some to Merc as well. Here's some more for any future crap!! GFL Debate Thread - Page 2 529827 Especially picked from the planet Zod! GFL Debate Thread - Page 2 849210

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    Post  mudra on Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:44 pm

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    Mercuriel wrote:
    Otherwise this is only an exercise in Polarity and Polarists are Spotlighting Themselves by this continued Argument.

    Now One may say - "What have I seen here so far ?"

    Vulgarity and Abuse. So two out of three are occurring in this Thread and it must stop or the AdMods will be invoked.

    Understand this - WARNING ISSUED...

    Our next action will not be a Warning. And understand - We dislike having to Post a Message like this but If People will not Govern Themselves accordingly respecting each others right to agree or disagree - Then what else are We left with as AdMods ?

    Protagonists have been counseled - Not Listened or saw the reason of the Counseling - And have therefore left no choice but to Issue a Warning.

    Please do not Invoke the AdMods here further...


    The issue at hand is an opportunity for transcendance to take place and real peace of Heart be found.
    Thereby laying a seed in that new world we all strive for .
    It would be a sad thing to invoke the AdMods here further.
    The axes should be buried and soul presence shine with Light now.
    Whatever that takes please do it . I trust you can .

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    Post  mudra on Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:50 pm

    Before taking this matter any further let's remember this Harp

    The Little Soul & The Sun - Neale Donald Walsch

    Once upon no time, there was a little Soul who said to God, "I know who I am."

    And God said, "That's wonderful! Who are you?"

    And the Little Soul shouted, "I'm the Light!"

    God smiled a big smile. "That's right!" God exclaimed. "You are the Light."

    The Little Soul was so happy, for it had figured out what all the souls in the Kingdom were there to figure out.

    "Wow," said the Little Soul, "this is really cool!"

    But soon, knowing who it was was not enough. The Little Soul felt stirrings inside, and now wanted to be who it was. And so the Little Soul went back to God (which is not a bad idea for all souls who want to be Who They Really Are) and said,

    "Hi, God! Now that I know Who I am, is it okay for me to be it?"

    And God said, "You mean you want to be Who You Already Are?"

    "Well," replied the Little Soul," it's one thing to know Who I Am, and another thing altogether to actually be it. I want to feel what it's like to be the Light!"

    "But you already are the Light," God repeated, smiling again.

    "Yes, but I want to see what that feels like!" cried the Little Soul.

    "Well," said God with a chuckle, "I suppose I should have known. You always were the adventuresome one."

    Then God's expression changed. "There's only one thing..."

    "What?" asked the Little Soul.

    "Well, there is nothing else but the Light. You see, I created nothing but what you are; and so, there is no easy way for you to experience yourself as Who You Are, since there is nothing that you are not."

    "Huh?" said the Little Soul, who was now a little confused.

    "Think of it this way," said God. "You are like a candle in the Sun. Oh, you're there all right. Along with a million, gazillion other candles who make up the Sun. And the sun would not be the Sun without you. Nay, it would be a sun without one of its candles...and that would not be the Sun at all; for it would not shine as brightly. Yet, how to know yourself as the Light when you are amidst the Light -that is the question."

    "Well," the Little Soul perked up, "you're God. Think of something!"

    Once more God smiled. "I already have," God said. "Since you cannot see yourself as the Light when you are in the Light, we'll surround you with darkness."

    "What's darkness?" the Little Soul asked.

    God replied, "It is that which you are not."

    "Will I be afraid of the dark?" cried the Little Soul.

    "Only if you choose to be," God answered. "There is nothing, really, to be afraid of, unless you decide that there is. You see, we are making it all up. We are pretending."

    "Oh," said the Little Soul, and felt better already.

    Then God explained that, in order to experience anything at all, the exact opposite of it will appear. "It is a great gift," God said, "because without it, you could not know what anything is like. You could not know Warm without Cold, Up without Down, Fast without Slow. You could not know Left without Right, Here without There, Now without Then."

    "And so," God concluded, "when you are surrounded with darkness, do not shake your fist and raise your voice and curse the darkness. Rather be a Light unto the darkness, and don't be mad about it. Then you will know Who You Really Are, and all others will know, too. Let your Light shine so that everyone will know how special you are!"

    "You mean it's okay to let others see how special I am?" asked the Little Soul.

    "Of course!" God chuckled. "It's very okay! But remember,'special' does not mean 'better.' Everybody is special, each in their own way! Yet many others have forgotten that. They will see that it is okay for them to be special only when you see that it is okay for you to be special."

    "Wow," said the Little Soul, dancing and skipping and laughing and jumping with joy. "I can be as special as I want to be!"

    "Yes, and you can start right now," said God, who was dancing and skipping and laughing right along with the Little Soul.

    "What part of special do you want to be?"

    "What part of special?" the Little Soul repeated. "I don't understand."

    "Well," God explained, "being the Light is being special, and being special has a lot of parts to it. It is special to be kind. It is special to be gentle. It is special to be creative. It is special to be patient. Can you think of any other ways it is special to be?"

    The Little Soul sat quietly for a moment. "I can think of lots of ways to be special!" the Little Soul then exclaimed. "It is special to be helpful. It is special to be sharing. It is special to be friendly. It is special to be considerate of others!"

    "Yes!" God agreed, "and you can be all of those things, or any part of special you wish to be, at any moment. That's what it means to be the Light."

    "I know what I want to be, I know what I want to be!" the Little Soul announced with great excitement. "I want to be the part of special called 'forgiving'. Isn't it special to be forgiving?"

    "Oh, yes," God assured the Little Soul. "That is very special."

    "Okay," said the Little Soul. "That's what I want to be. I want to be forgiving. I want to experience myself as that."

    "Good," said God, "but there's one thing you should know."

    The Little Soul was becoming a bit impatient now. It always seemed as though there were some complication.

    "What is it?" the Little Soul sighed.

    "There is no one to forgive."

    "No one?" The Little Soul could hardly believe what had been said.

    "No one!" God repeated. "Everything I have made is perfect. There is not a single soul in all creation less perfect than you. Look around you."

    It was then that the Little Soul realized a large crowd had gathered. Souls had come from far and wide ~ from all over the Kingdom ~ for the word had gone forth that the Little Soul was having this extraordinary conversation with God, and everyone wanted to hear what they were saying. Looking at the countless other souls gathered there, the Little Soul had to agree. None appeared less wonderful, less magnificent, or less perfect than the Little Soul itself. Such was the wonder of the souls gathered around, and so bright was their Light, that the Little Soul could scarcely gaze upon them.

    "Who, then, to forgive?" asked God.

    "Boy, this is going to be no fun at all!" grumbled the Little Soul. "I wanted to experience myself as One Who Forgives. I wanted to know what that part of special felt like."

    And the Little Soul learned what it must feel like to be sad. But just then a Friendly Soul stepped forward from the crowd.

    "Not to worry, Little Soul," the Friendly Soul said, "I will help you."

    "You will?" the Little Soul brightened. "But what can you do?"

    "Why, I can give you someone to forgive!"

    "You can?"

    "Certainly!" chirped the Friendly Soul. "I can come into your next lifetime and do something for you to forgive."

    "But why? Why would you do that?" the Little Soul asked. "You, who are a Being of such utter perfection! You, who vibrate with such a speed that it creates a Light so bright that I can hardly gaze upon you! What could cause you to want to slow down your vibration to such a speed that your bright Light would become dark and dense? What could cause you ~ who are so light that you dance upon the stars and move through the Kingdom with the speed of your thought--to come into my life and make yourself so heavy that you could do this bad thing?"

    "Simple," the Friendly Soul said. "I would do it because I love you."

    The Little Soul seemed surprised at the answer.

    "Don't be so amazed," said the Friendly Soul, "you have done the same thing for me. Don't you remember? Oh, we have danced together, you and I, many times. Through the eons and across all the ages have we danced. Across all time and in many places have we played together. You just don't remember."

    "We have both been All Of It. We have been the Up and the Down of it, the Left and the Right of it. We have been the Here and the There of it, the Now and the Then of it. We have been the male and the female, the good and the bad; we have both been the victim and the villain of it."

    "Thus have we come together, you and I, many times before; each bringing to the other the exact and perfect opportunity to Express and to Experience Who We Really Are. And so," the Friendly Soul explained further, "I will come into your next lifetime and be the 'bad one' this time. I will do something really terrible, and then you can experience yourself as the One Who Forgives.

    "But what will you do?" the Little Soul asked, just a little nervously, "that will be so terrible?"

    "Oh," replied the Friendly Soul with a twinkle, "we'll think of something."

    Then the Friendly Soul seemed to turn serious, and said in a quiet voice, "You are right about one thing, you know."

    "What is that?" the Little Soul wanted to know.

    "I will have to slow down my vibration and become very heavy to do this not-so-nice thing. I will have to pretend to be something very unlike myself. And so, I have but one favour to ask of you in return."

    "Oh, anything, anything!" cried the Little Soul, and began to dance and sing, "I get to be forgiving, I get to be forgiving!"

    Then the Little Soul saw that the Friendly Soul was remaining very quiet.

    "What is it?" the Little Soul asked. "What can I do for you? You are such an angel to be willing to do this for me!"

    "Of course this Friendly Soul is an angel!" God interrupted. "Everyone is! Always remember: I have sent you nothing but angels."

    And so the Little Soul wanted more than ever to grant the Friendly Soul's request. "What can I do for you?" the Little Soul asked again.

    "In the moment that I strike you and smite you," the Friendly Soul replied, "in the moment that I do the worst to you that you could possible imagine ~ in that very moment..."

    "Yes?" the Little Soul interrupted, "yes...?""Remember Who I Really Am."

    "Oh, I will!" cried the Little Soul, "I promise! I will always remember you as I see you right here, right now!"

    "Good," said the Friendly Soul, "because, you see, I will have been pretending so hard, I will have forgotten myself. And if you do not remember me as I really am, I may not be able to remember for a very long time. And if I forget Who I Am, you may even forget Who You Are, and we will both be lost. Then we will need another soul to come along and remind us both of Who We Are."

    "No, we won't!" the Little Soul promised again. "I will remember you! And I will thank you for bringing me this gift ~ the chance to experience myself as Who I Am.

    " And so, the agreement was made. And the Little Soul went forth into a new lifetime, excited to be the Light, which was very special, and excited to be that part of special called Forgiveness.

    And the Little Soul waited anxiously to be able to experience itself as Forgiveness, and to thank whatever other soul made it possible. And at all the moments in that new lifetime, whenever a new soul appeared on the scene, whether that new soul brought joy or sadness--and especially if it brought sadness--the Little Soul thought of what God had said.

    "Always remember," God had smiled, "I have sent you nothing but angels."

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    Post  Gita on Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:07 pm

    Beautiful story Mudra. I bought the book for my daughter many years ago - beautiul illustrations. Thank you for the reminder. Yet the little soul should have also been reminded ' Be careful what you wish for' - especially in this 3D! GFL Debate Thread - Page 2 216239 GFL Debate Thread - Page 2 164548
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    Post  Carol on Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:30 pm

    I would just like to remind folks that I went a whole year without deleting a thread or banning a member as a mod at Avalon. From my experience allowing members to work out their issues tends to work best. What happened here today was the result of several things. Balanced started the ball rolling by misinterpreting where Gita was coming from and made a false assumption on which was acted upon.

    Of course JT had a lot of left over frustration left over from Avalon as he never got an opportunity to work it out and was banned. Meanwhile, JT also misinterpreted what Gita posted over there because I remember what was posted and he took the thread seriously rather then let it remain the spoof it was meant to be. Subsequently due to his style of confrontation ~ Gita was offended, insulted and outraged that JT would think her so heartless.. and add to that Balance's post which also was off the mark. As a result, Gita felt the lines had been crossed and needed to defend herself vigorously. Hence, the over-the-top come-backs because the ball was now rolling and needed more energy to put the misperceptions to an end.

    To balance out the flood of energy released Mecuriel, MP3, Sui and mudra jumped in. Meanwhile, after being confronted JT began to slow down while Gita was still fuming. Hence she still needed to get it all out and explain she was not the person that both Balance and JT conveyed and indeed is someone of great compassion who serves those in distress. What happened here is that we got to see more of who Gita really is which is quite lovely.

    Those who go into judgment please refer to this thread. HO'OPONOPONO http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.net/?mforum=mistsofavalon&showtopic=231

    We on this forum are committed to putting HO'OPONOPONO into practice because we value our members and our relationships with one another. Please keep this in mind when posting a judgment in a thread without having all of the facts in hand from the onset.

    For myself personally, I try to keep in mind that the members here all have good hearts and then take it from there.


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    Post  Gita on Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:39 pm

    Respect Carol and many many thanks. GFL Debate Thread - Page 2 854501
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    Post  Mercuriel on Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:39 pm

    Thats why Shes My Big Sista...

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    Post  mudra on Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:01 pm

    I have no doubt we are all beings of Light here and that when asked or gently are reminded to we just let our soul shine ..

    I thank you all for being such Loving souls
    Hugs



    When you cant find the light,
    That got you through the cloudy days,
    When the stars aint shinin bright,
    You feel like youve lost youre way,
    When those candle lights of home,
    Burn so very far away,
    Well you got to let your soul shine,
    Just like my daddy used to say.

    [chorus]
    He used to say soulshine,
    Its better than sunshine,
    Its better than moonshine,
    Damn sure better than rain.
    Hey now people dont mind,
    We all get this way sometime,
    Got to let your soul shine, shine till the break of day.

    I grew up thinkin that I had it made,
    Gonna make it on my own.
    Life can take the strongest man,
    Make him feel so alone.
    Now and then I feel a cold wind,
    Blowin through my achin bones,
    I think back to what my daddy said,
    He said boy, in the darkness before the dawn:

    [chorus]
    Let your soul shine,
    Its better than sunshine,
    Its better than moonshine,
    Damn sure better than rain.
    Yeah now people dont mind,
    We all get this way sometimes,
    Gotta let your soul shine, shine till the break of day.

    Sometimes a man can feel this emptiness,
    Like a woman has robbed him of his very soul.
    A woman too, God knows, she can feel like this.
    And when your world seems cold, you got to let your spirit take control.

    [chorus]
    Let your soul shine,
    Its better than sunshine,
    Its better than moonshine,
    Damn sure better than rain.
    Lord now people dont mind,
    We all get this way sometimes,
    Gotta let your soul shine, shine till the break of day.

    Oh, its better than sunshine,
    Its better than moonshine,
    Damn sure better than rain.
    Yeah now people dont mind,
    We all get this way sometimes,
    Gotta let your soul shine, shine till the break of day.


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    Post  mudra on Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:20 pm

    Gita wrote:Beautiful story Mudra. I bought the book for my daughter many years ago - beautiul illustrations. Thank you for the reminder. Yet the little soul should have also been reminded ' Be careful what you wish for' - especially in this 3D! GFL Debate Thread - Page 2 216239 GFL Debate Thread - Page 2 164548

    Thank you Gita .. You are right 3D is'nt a piece of cake .. quite a learning lab GFL Debate Thread - Page 2 Icon_scratch but no worries we'll all graduate from this place GFL Debate Thread - Page 2 Icon_wink

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