Oh crap, I have opened a can of worms for myself..
burgundia wrote:I have been thinking about that too lately. I do not want to contribute to that system but at the same time it is so hard to break free from it. The major problem is that there are very few people who around us who think along the same lines. One would have to find a community with like-minded people, move there and contribute accordingly. Sometimes to become self-sustained one needs a lot of money at the beginning.
Burgundia, I think we have reached the 100th monkey in this line of thinking however, from the research I had done on communities, I did not like what I saw. i.e. more control structure. They had rules as long as your arm that you must follow. I don't want rules anymore other than natural law and common sense. So the communities can wait. That's not to say all communities are that way, it's just I have not yet found what I am looking for.
If you want to live off grid, yes, it will take some start-up investment - sadly, I have not nearly enough assets to do this with.
Hello eMonkey I see your reflections go along mine these days .
This money system we are in has obviously proven unworkable
and unethical. It's driving humanity in a pit .
Although we may have chosen a job that is of value to all the
exchange we get from it in money and that the most part goes to
our governments is then spent in areas that aren't enhancing society
at large.In that way each of us that is working is contributing
to the downfall of a civilization that is choking itself as well
as it's environment.
MP3 was the first one to bring this to the table in a great thread
he opened : http://www.themistsofavalon.net/worldwide-sustainable-communities-f16/new-economics-or-no-economics-t218.htm
Mudra, thanks for pointing the way to MP3's thread - wow - he/she really nails it down well. I had not seen this before, I am wondering if it was reconstructed from another forum.. Plenty of new food for thought on the table there. I had known most of this but MP3 put's a new light on things and sees things from a different perspective - refreshing
Whilst going through some links on that thread, I did find vids on YouTube about a guy who is living with no money and a small Eco-Village in London. Erm, I am not sure that I am yet ready to go out in the middle of a freezing night, breaking into premises to yank stuff out of a Dumpster that the supermarkets throw out. Or living in what can be seen as less than desirable conditions in an eco village - dang - I mean, where do I plug in my hairdryer
Anchor wrote:Without wanting to comment on your observations and apparent understanding of the material drama I would say: what does your heart tell you that you should be doing?
If you can't hold a reliable conversation with your higher self (via your heart) then:
1) Don't worry, a lot of people can't either (but many of them are learning and getting better at it)
2) I recommend playing the game for a little while longer and spending the time working on that conversation
Following your heart is hard sometimes. It can cause a smashing of old illusory structures and in many cases separation. It can be a lot of emotional "hard knocks" for a while and then the chaos passes as a new life emerges.
PS: I have a hunch that you already started doing this... Good luck !
Anchor, you are so observant - have you been peeking - hehe?
Yes indeed I have already started, but having no job currently and having deliberately stayed away from slavery, I find myself at a crossroads of sorts.
No, I have no conversations with my higher self. As much as I try - "nothing" comes the answer. However, I do get synchronicities' but it's hard to tell what the message is, who the messenger is and who was behind it. I can tell you - I have had some bizarre doozy events happen too.
Following my heart got me into the mess I find myself in now. Do I continue to dig a deeper hole or chuck the shovel away?
A very difficult situation to deal with. Easier if you have no kids etc.
Firstly I would say that you have to use the sytems money but withdraw from the system. This is the only way at the moment.
Then you can start to work for free. But I think we all know that if everyone doesn't do that then it is very hard, but not impossible.
This site can give you ideas, may not your futur but help with Ideas.http://www.wwoof.org/
I also have an american friend who builds dry stone walls. He does it all over the world. A very lovely man in his 50's I think. But the people help with his payment of displacement and he goes a long way.
But Anchor was right that is a real heart one. Listen to what you have to do to keep the people around you safe and then see what you can do??
Not an easy thing. The best of luck and love to you my friend.
Lawlessline, yup - dropping of TPTB's radar is not easy - tell me - I have been trying for 20 months now.
When you do that, what little you have in backup - disappears into thin air in trying to survive on the sidelines and not wanting to play the game.
I already work for free and give stuff away but little to nothing comes back. So the Universe is not reciprocating - hmm, why is that - it must be keeping track of who is naughty and who is nice.
Thanks for the link, I shall check it out and thanks for the wishes.
I hope that this thread can be an inspiration to others too and get them thinking of "getting in the shower" to rid themselves of 3D trash.